It also explains why Pinkie Pie treats Fluttershy like a little sister, when Fluttershy herself is older. Because Fluttershy reminds Pinkie of her younger sister Marble Pie.
I'd like to think that's a good explanation as to why Marble looks and acts like Fluttershy. They intentionally modeled her after Fluttershy due to the fact that Pinkie sees her as a little sister. So less it being intentional from the beginning more an idea that spawned later from their earlier interaction.
@@j.c.2240 though was perfectly fine ignoring how she herself made Fluttershy cry both in Fillie Vanilli and the short The Escape Room 😒 nice way to treat somepony who reminds you of your little sister there, Pinkie
I actually do believe Maud when she said she was pushing as hard as she could, and here's why: with that other boulder, she was looking to *crush* it. But with Holder's Boulder, it had remain in one piece. So therefore, Maud was simply using a different tactic; one that would ensure Holder's Bolder wouldn't break, but it wasn't enough to get it back to its original spot. So THERE! And I didn't need science to figure that out, I used *LOGIC*! Ha ha ha haaaaa!
I can prove Maud was pushing with full force, using science as well: Jackhammers. Set a jackhammer up, and apply your weight to it, but not turn it on, it'll sit there, not destroying anything. Apply power to the jackhammer, and now suddenly it starts breaking things. The tip of the jack hammer, is moving up and down, very rapidly, making harsh impacts with the surface that one is trying to destroy. The tip of the jackhammer is as small of a surface area as possible as well, increasing the pressure at the point of impact. Now look at Maud Pie when she is pulverizing the boulder to save Pinkie's life... fast, rapid movements of the hooves. Hooves positioned so that just the tips of said hooves make contact, thus reducing the surface area at the point of impact, thus increasing pressure. Maud Pie was a literal jackhammer, when pulverizing the boulder.
THAT'S what throws you off. Not the fact a piece of gingerbread gained sentience, reassembled itself after being eaten and dissolved in stomach acid, and cut itself out of a hippogryph's stomach?
Actually Pinkie states that she and Apple Bloom would be "4th cousins twice removed by a 5th cousin". Now ignoring the "by a 5th cousin" bit because that bit doesn't make any sense, their common ancestor would be, at closest, one of their great-great-great-grandparents. And the "twice removed" part means that that same ancestor would be the other's great-great-great-great-great-grandparent. In short, that's too far apart to be considered incest. I WILL ALWAYS SCIENCE!!! Thanks for letting me be a part of this, Silver!! Happy Holidays!
The distance they are is also why no one cares about the possibility of them being related. Even if it is true it's so distant as to be practically meaningless.
Actually in any lab I've even been in, lab coats are mandatory at all times. And goggles are mandatory if chemicals are out in the lab regardless on how far away they are.
4:31 actually, it was confirmed by one of the writers over at Twitter that limestone's the oldest, followed by maud, pinkie and marble in that order. considering that, it makes much more sense why she claims to be the one in charge. as the oldest she would be the legitimate heiress to the farm, once her parents retire. Apart from that, i'm just glad we finally got to see more of my favorite family, even though i wish they'd gone with a more diverse personality for her sisters than the ones we came up with in season 2.
You know what I just realized, Pinkie’s family is really supportive. From her coloring, energy, hobbies and more she’s really stood out from the family. Yet, none of them try to change her. Sure if they’re doing a job & she gets distracted they may call her, but that’s for anyone. None of them tried to make her change her ways from being a happy party pony to something more traditional for them. Good job Pie family
I mean I can see why Applejack may feel this way she's been thrust into a new situation that she's not used to. I think this is more a play on her stubbornness and here's why: Applejack has always had little hints that she believes her way is the right way and in this episode it's brought out more. She didn't want to change and thought her way was the only way and dug in her hooves against the change. Much like Rainbow Dash she needed a hit to her ego to snap her out of the "my way is the only way" mind set.
In my opinion, Silver Quill is at his best when he has others to interact with. The two surprise guests in this video was a nice little shift, seeing as Silver usually only has one guest when he collabs a video. Despite his usual amusingly snarky demeanor when doing solo videos, it's when his personality can play off of others that he's at his most enjoyable in terms of watchability. In my opinion, this is his best video yet, if not easily part of the Top 3
15:45 And any way, what IS wrong with putting a lot of thought into a children's cartoon? Since when do children deserve less than the best we can offer them?
Breaking a rock, is not the same as moving a rock. An egg can actually hold up quite a number pounds of weight, but you can still crack an chicken egg with a spoon. The rock before, Maud needed to destroy and endure causing it to stay in the air while also breaking off peices with each hit. If anything it shows her endurence, not her strength. Take half a glass of water and hold it in the air. It's not very heavy, is it? Keep it in the air for 30 minutes without switching hands and then tell me how heavy it is. Beware my POWER!!!!
Easily my favorite of the group was Limestone Pie. I loved how she was hostile and seemed to have a not so easy relationship with Pinkie Pie. Yet she was not evil or completely grumpy, she just took her job seriously. I like the idea that Pinkie is also just a mare and get's along better with some of her siblings than others. I could still really tell that Pinkie and Limestone loved each other but they just don't really fit. I does make sense that Pinkie would have Maud as her favorite sibling. Her relationship with Limestone is not easy because of their different personalities and Marble is so extremely submissive that Pinkie has to take care of her and even speak for her. Maud was the only one where Pinkie felt an equal and by who she could let her guard down. I wasn't fond of the parents though. I just felt it was a little overplayed.
I'd like to point out that The Apple family were guests so it kinda made sense for them to follow the Pie family traditions during their stay. You dont go to your in laws place & make the celebrate the holidays your way. Thats just a party faul
Oh, Silver, we love science BECAUSE it ruins everything! Also, their mathematics do check out. Besides- this is a winter episode! Don’t be so cold! *snicker*
I'm trying to math the boulder from shadow play, it's roughly four applejack-lengths across and four and a half high, with mass removed for the slope, and likely composed of volcanic rock due to the gorge being used to channel lava. I looked up moss-covered volcanic rock and its a pretty good visual match. I'm going to find the distance thrown by measuring the walls of the gorge and the rough distance from them walls to figure out an arc, and following THAT i'm going to work out the rolling speed for the sake of momentum, but it's no good if i can't work out the dimensions of the boulder. can anyone help me with that?
But what if the boulder is not volcanic rock? Maud was using all her strength and couldn't budge it. There is also the odd shape of it to consider too that maybe the forces of erosion apply differently because it's composition is different.
Given that you refer to maud, and the odd shape, when i described it as roughly cubic, i'm going to assume there was a communication breakdown, and apologise for not being clear. I was referring to the rock from the episode "shadow play", which is another matter. Regarding the rock from THIS episode, if we assume it, as many have guessed, is indeed a dragon egg then we can assume the weight of it's internals would be greater then that of common rock, and if it is just a rock it's more likely basalt based on the factors listed in the episode. Thank you for joining in though, those are good factors to consider, and i appreciate it anyway.
My response to Maud's comment about pushing as hard as she can: "... Yeah, that makes sense. After all, there is a difference between pushing and pulverizing."
I mean, it is, but in a _very_ literal sense of the word. However, for those who are married or dating someone right now, the MarbleMac relationship is probably equally as "incestuous" as your own - the bloodlines are so far removed and so diluted that to call a relationship between the two "incest" is, while _technically_ accurate, a humongous nitpick.
by your definition, all relationships are incest, since all humans share a common ancestor. also, incest is defined as a relationship between close relatives, so by the very literal sense of the word, it is not incest.
Ah, well, there you go. If the relationship is not genetically very close, then it is not to be called an incestuous one. I had always just heard the definition as "related", with no indication that the closeness of the relation had any factor in it. :)
I'm hoping that in the future, we'll get a variation of the whole thing of Twilight giving Spike a book as a present, by having it be a kind of book he'd enjoy, either because of the topic or maybe something like a graphic novel, since we know he likes comic books.
3:20 I really liked that. It indicated that the cutie mark is indeed a sign of maturity. That Applebloom is starting to enter puberty. I really do wish they carry through on that. Not go into detail of course but that getting your cutie mark actually is what starts puberty in ponies. That we see that with all 3 of the CMC. That they take on more teenage traits.
I am in awe at Silver's ability to get the crap beaten out of him in a new inventive way each review. Normally it's by other reviewers or Mlp characters, but this was a character from another franchise. I applaud your ingenuity good sir.
The way I see it, the reason that Pinkie doesn’t explain her traditions is the same, albeit way tamer, reason that AJ is so confident about her traditions being the best. Pinkie is just ecstatic that she’s able to share her family’s traditions with someone else, someone who is also her family, even if they aren’t blood related. Pinkie is just so comfortable with AJ because she sees her as her family.
Honestly, it's not a big deal if Pinkie Pie and AJ are related or not; I don't think the fandom really talks about it all that much to be honest. That's only really brought up when people ship Big Mac and Marble Pie. But it doesn't matter anyway since Big Mac already has a special somepony and her name is Sugar Belle.
Happy Holidays! Little surprised you don't go for the shipping joke about Big Macintosh. As out of left field as Sugar Belle came, he has this track record of crushes that, if acted on, would raise the mother of all unfortunate implications. Cheerilee: is it real or is it lingering results of the love poison? Marble: is it incestuous? Fleetfoot (comics): is it it the lingering results of the head injury? Sweatcream Scoops (comics): is she a stalker?
This reminds my of a made up holiday my family has. We all get together, make food, play poker/cards and try to keep my uncles form killing each other. We don't really have a name for it but it's a lot of fun.
“Whatever happened to love and tolerate?” I believe that went out the window when Lily Peet turned out to be a complete -insert expletive of choice here-
I never cared much if Pinkie and Applejack were actually related, I was just disappointed by the episode's ending being such a cop-out. Like, even if they _are_ related they're more distantly related than what even matters.
Honestly, even though it's only barely mentioned, the scene with Twi and Spike is my favorite part. Because my family also opens presents on Christmas Eve, and it was nice to see that.
ALL HAIL GINGERQUILL! This was just, so touching, and perfect and, always great to see new ATF vids, Tyndaga and Sweetie were amazing, just, loved this all around!
I know this is a bit late, but I can really relate to this episode. My grandfather had multiple wives (divorce and remarrying), but my mom became attached to one who wasn't her biological mother, or my grandfather's current wife. Now I have a whole side of my family that isn't even technically my family because of that relationship. So a story like this, with two families becoming closer without even knowing if they're related, is...hearthwarming.
When pinkie came in the chimney it was actually continuity for the episode “hearth’s warming Eve” because when pinky was chancellor pudding head she also came in from the chimney
As a wrangler and horsewoman I’m impressed that you got all the horse facts right!! This I knew from my certification for EIA (Equine Investigation Academy). Well done.
You have a cup filled half way with water... you pick it up with one hand and hold it. How heavy is the cup? Now hold that cup for 24 hours without putting it down... how heavy does that cup feel now? Despite the weight of the object not changing, our muscles grow tired; as a result, the longer you hold the cup, the heavier it'll feel, due to fatigue. As opposed to holding a cup for 5 minutes, then setting it down for 5 minutes, holding it for 5 minutes, and setting it down for 5 minutes... Your muscles won't become fatigued as quickly. This same principle, applies to Maud Pie. Despite her being able to pummel a rock into dust, the pressure applied to the muscles, isn't sustained for the same period that would be required to move a boulder. ALSO, if her muscles aren't built for sustained pressure over extended periods of time, that changes matters as well. So just because she is capable of pummeling a rock into dust, does not, in anyway, mean she can move a boulder with ease... But there is another reason that is equally plausible... what if the boulder, has an iron core? iron being much denser, and therefore heavier, than rocks, would explain why the entire pie family is having difficulty moving it on their own. Especially since they built the farm around the boulder, which means this is the first time they are moving it. So two possibilities, both equally likely, along with the fact, that the iron core possibility, would still have sustained pressure requirements to move, rather than obliterate. So both can be the reason behind why Maud isn't able to push the boulder all that well. What if there is a gold core? less likely... by a long shot... but that would just make moving that boulder even worse.
Thanks Silverquill !! Your video was like a hot cocoa next to a cozy fireplace. Missed your reviews (After the facts OR with Silver Quilted). May you have a Merry Christmas and I wish you the best year possible for 2018!
The possible Apple/Pie relationship is something that's always made me wonder, but no I've never heard anyone talk about it since that episode came out.
I can't say that it really weighed on me. But I'd like to think that they really are related. Or at least the two families have accepted it as the norm. One of the blind reactors I watch had a 'YES, PLEASE, TELL ME' moment when he watched 'Fame and Misfortune.' And now that we've had both 'The Perfect Pear' and Big Mac's romance with Sugar Belle, I want to see the Apple Pear Pie Belle family reunion episode.
There was a lot of talk about whether an equine can bite into a rock, but I doubt that rocks are, well, digestible. If I need to eat something that never dissolves in my body, as a digestive aid for example, I'll just eat corn. I suspect that Limestone Pie is a rebuttal to all the psycho Pinkamena material out there. "See this scary mare?" the show seems to say "She's the one you don't turn your back on!" Yet at the end of the episode, even she's not so bad. Thanks for making this video, Silver.
There are certain minerals we need in order to function. These minerals can be found in rocks and dirt. Since horses, and ponies, are vegetarian they gain more of their dietary needs from that kind of thing.
A welcome present this is. :D Also, I don't reallty put much thought into them being related. If tHey are, good for them. If not, doesn't really subtract from my enjoyment. Part of the fun is in not knowing. Although... This episode does bring some interesting implications. The possiblity of hinting at incest does raise a few eyebrows. But the less said about that the better!
I really do find it odd how that “insert fan complaints” episode had that one guy obsessed over whether Applejack and Pinkie Pie are related or not. Personally, I really don’t care, and I haven’t seen anyone else in the fandom expressing concern over it either, not to say no one does. I’ve actually held the mentality of that episodes moral for many years before it came out: family are the people you love and that love you in return. I can say this rather easily, cause I in fact HATE several of my blood relatives with a very real passion, and actually consider people that I met online and this one guy I met in high school to be my real family, because unlike my blood relatives they always lend a sympathetic ear when I need it (and sometimes I REALLY need it), listen to me even if they don’t understand or care about what I’m talking about, and even if we sometimes bicker we never let it get the better of us, as apposed to, say for example, my blood related sister who has disregard my own suicidal depression as she doesn’t think I “deserve” to be suicidal because “[her] problems are worse than mine” and couldn’t give a shit about anything I have to say unless it’s what she’s talking about. Take it from someone who knows: blood is a meaningless fluid, and saying it’s “thicker than water” doesn’t hold any weight in the real world.
This was fun to watch! You made some good points about the episode, and the science facts were cool too. The last bit with Gingerquill was unexpected and hilarious. I wonder where the sugary hippogriff ran off to…
I'd like to add that Twilight (being the most foreign of the group) celebrating hearthswarming on the eve is actually quite true to life as many countries, such as Norway and Danmark, celebrate like this 👍
SpectralSketches I heard of that. The stones are heated up so they'll do the cooking once they're in the soup. It's funny making that soup but also pretty complicated since I haven't found a good recipe yet.
The little manian Its not exactly for the rock to do the cooking. The rock is from a story about a starving monk that finds a family and takes advantage of them by talking about a special soup made with a rock then he makes a normal soup and puts the rock in it, eats it and then takes the rock so he can fool another family
fun fact, seeing as Silverquill gave The Predator a cameo in this, if you ever wondered how they got the Predator's clicking sound, it's all courtesy of Optimus Prime himself, Peter Cullen when he was brought into audition, they asked him to make a noise for a creature, but wouldn't show him a picture for him to work off of, it was only when Peter pressed for them to give him something to work with that they relented and showed him an image and thus he created the iconic clicking growl the Predator is known for. this has been your non MLP facts for the comment section.
I really do like this moral though I would have liked it better for Twilight. That you shouldn't be projecting your own visions on what is "better" to someone who didn't ask for it. I'm really glad the episode didn't side with Applejack on this. I do feel that since becoming a princess Twilight can be somewhat arrogant and see her own opinion as automatically being superior to that of others. I still hope they'll do that in season 8. That Twilight wants to help a situation she sees as horrible but falls flat on her face and learns she shouldn't be projecting her own visions onto others. It's just something my mom drilled into my head from a very young age so it really rang true for me. That you need to respect other people even if you don't agree with them.
Glad to see another After the Fact video from you, Silver Quill, especially just after Christmas. Great work, and I can't wait for the next one as you finish up Season 5 during the hiatus for Season 8.
Tyandaga, Sweetie Bloom... *dramatically points to the Dark Corner of Shame* Corner...NOW!!! As geeky as I am...that was too much science. Oh and... *holds up broken Obscure-O-Meter* ...you broke this bringing in Gloop and Gleep from Herculoids.
I really enjoyed this episode the first time I watched it. If there is one thing I am a nut about, it's culture, traditions and how different people make them their own. This episode shows 2 very different families, both in attitude and outward personalities, and yet by the end it finds that middle ground. When it comes to best pony AJ, I do like the points you came up with. I have always seen AJ as a traditionalist, one who stands firm in their own traditions and can have a hard time changing them or even adjusting, so her fall in this episode did make me sympathize with her, and made me celebrate even more when she came around in the end, willing to to bend her ways to make room for the Pie's. As for the relation between their families...it's a fun thought, but not one I cling on that much.
Maud also dug into that rock by plumbing it, each punch chipping away at more rock which could br easier than trying to support and push up a large boulder
Well, I see this episode as an explanation for different kinds of celebrations and cultural differences. That we can't focus on only ours, but also we need to respect other ones.
Hey Silver. I have a question for you. I know Mlp is your bread and butter, but do you think you would branch out to other Cartoons when G4 is over or will you continue with G5? While you would be a little late to the party, I would like to hear your thoughts on Gravity Falls. That seems like the kind of show that you would be interested in.
That hidden reference to the DHX´s leaks (Sombra coming back for S9E01). I do not think he would be answering stuff about G5 [as it basically implies "getting" the pictures and emails].
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It also explains why Pinkie Pie treats Fluttershy like a little sister, when Fluttershy herself is older. Because Fluttershy reminds Pinkie of her younger sister Marble Pie.
Its funny cause you know that wasnt intentional at the time now it seems to be that way
I'd like to think that's a good explanation as to why Marble looks and acts like Fluttershy. They intentionally modeled her after Fluttershy due to the fact that Pinkie sees her as a little sister. So less it being intentional from the beginning more an idea that spawned later from their earlier interaction.
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And why she's so protective of her. Remember, she wasn't angry at gilda until she made fluttershy cry
@@j.c.2240 though was perfectly fine ignoring how she herself made Fluttershy cry both in Fillie Vanilli and the short The Escape Room 😒 nice way to treat somepony who reminds you of your little sister there, Pinkie
Wasn't actually expecting to see the use of my old "Boooo!!!" video here, but it was well worth it :)
DRWolf001 which I'm very surprised Doc never saw you booing once
Happy holidays, DRWolf0001!!
What video was that good doctor?
I swear sometimes the mindsets of you two can be foils and friends
Why doc why your the reason wolf of all the other better then josh and he dose is complain!!!!
I actually do believe Maud when she said she was pushing as hard as she could, and here's why: with that other boulder, she was looking to *crush* it. But with Holder's Boulder, it had remain in one piece. So therefore, Maud was simply using a different tactic; one that would ensure Holder's Bolder wouldn't break, but it wasn't enough to get it back to its original spot. So THERE! And I didn't need science to figure that out, I used *LOGIC*! Ha ha ha haaaaa!
Must, resist, urge to crush comment with science....not...resisting well.
Actually I like that bit of logic.
I can prove Maud was pushing with full force, using science as well:
Jackhammers. Set a jackhammer up, and apply your weight to it, but not turn it on, it'll sit there, not destroying anything. Apply power to the jackhammer, and now suddenly it starts breaking things. The tip of the jack hammer, is moving up and down, very rapidly, making harsh impacts with the surface that one is trying to destroy. The tip of the jackhammer is as small of a surface area as possible as well, increasing the pressure at the point of impact.
Now look at Maud Pie when she is pulverizing the boulder to save Pinkie's life... fast, rapid movements of the hooves. Hooves positioned so that just the tips of said hooves make contact, thus reducing the surface area at the point of impact, thus increasing pressure. Maud Pie was a literal jackhammer, when pulverizing the boulder.
And suddenly there was a science deer XD
Tricky Fox says the multi tailed fox
*goes and gets him* .are you ok? Sorry you need to watch your word choice.
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THAT'S what throws you off. Not the fact a piece of gingerbread gained sentience, reassembled itself after being eaten and dissolved in stomach acid, and cut itself out of a hippogryph's stomach?
Actually Pinkie states that she and Apple Bloom would be "4th cousins twice removed by a 5th cousin". Now ignoring the "by a 5th cousin" bit because that bit doesn't make any sense, their common ancestor would be, at closest, one of their great-great-great-grandparents. And the "twice removed" part means that that same ancestor would be the other's great-great-great-great-great-grandparent. In short, that's too far apart to be considered incest.
I WILL ALWAYS SCIENCE!!! Thanks for letting me be a part of this, Silver!! Happy Holidays!
*Disney nerd!*
The distance they are is also why no one cares about the possibility of them being related. Even if it is true it's so distant as to be practically meaningless.
The Professor have a good day Well, would do you want chalk dust in your eyes?
It's lab safety dress code. What if someone throws a erlenmeyer flask of sodium hydroxide from the other side of the room? Always be prepared!
Actually in any lab I've even been in, lab coats are mandatory at all times. And goggles are mandatory if chemicals are out in the lab regardless on how far away they are.
I'm still surprised how little the community has commented on the fact that Marble Pie is Pinkie Twin sister younger by only a few minutes.
RIP Ginger-Quill. You will be missed.
Or.....not.....that works too...... OJO
Dewdropmon OR not!
He came back in the end.
Munching ginger quill "oh was he talking or something"
So it would seem. ^^;
A little early for that, don't you think?
4:31 actually, it was confirmed by one of the writers over at Twitter that limestone's the oldest, followed by maud, pinkie and marble in that order. considering that, it makes much more sense why she claims to be the one in charge. as the oldest she would be the legitimate heiress to the farm, once her parents retire.
Apart from that, i'm just glad we finally got to see more of my favorite family, even though i wish they'd gone with a more diverse personality for her sisters than the ones we came up with in season 2.
You know what I just realized, Pinkie’s family is really supportive. From her coloring, energy, hobbies and more she’s really stood out from the family. Yet, none of them try to change her. Sure if they’re doing a job & she gets distracted they may call her, but that’s for anyone. None of them tried to make her change her ways from being a happy party pony to something more traditional for them. Good job Pie family
I mean I can see why Applejack may feel this way she's been thrust into a new situation that she's not used to. I think this is more a play on her stubbornness and here's why: Applejack has always had little hints that she believes her way is the right way and in this episode it's brought out more. She didn't want to change and thought her way was the only way and dug in her hooves against the change. Much like Rainbow Dash she needed a hit to her ego to snap her out of the "my way is the only way" mind set.
In my opinion, Silver Quill is at his best when he has others to interact with. The two surprise guests in this video was a nice little shift, seeing as Silver usually only has one guest when he collabs a video. Despite his usual amusingly snarky demeanor when doing solo videos, it's when his personality can play off of others that he's at his most enjoyable in terms of watchability. In my opinion, this is his best video yet, if not easily part of the Top 3
Like pinkie pie?
Don't you mean " its SEDIMENTARY my dear apples"?
Lazriel Dreamer 13:30 that is all
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15:45 And any way, what IS wrong with putting a lot of thought into a children's cartoon? Since when do children deserve less than the best we can offer them?
Breaking a rock, is not the same as moving a rock.
An egg can actually hold up quite a number pounds of weight, but you can still crack an chicken egg with a spoon. The rock before, Maud needed to destroy and endure causing it to stay in the air while also breaking off peices with each hit. If anything it shows her endurence, not her strength. Take half a glass of water and hold it in the air. It's not very heavy, is it? Keep it in the air for 30 minutes without switching hands and then tell me how heavy it is.
Beware my POWER!!!!
I love this explanation! It is both practical, and sensible put in a way that anypony could understand.
13:30 It's so fun seeing Drwolf break character.
Maybe he'd be more likable. 🤭
Easily my favorite of the group was Limestone Pie. I loved how she was hostile and seemed to have a not so easy relationship with Pinkie Pie. Yet she was not evil or completely grumpy, she just took her job seriously. I like the idea that Pinkie is also just a mare and get's along better with some of her siblings than others. I could still really tell that Pinkie and Limestone loved each other but they just don't really fit.
I does make sense that Pinkie would have Maud as her favorite sibling. Her relationship with Limestone is not easy because of their different personalities and Marble is so extremely submissive that Pinkie has to take care of her and even speak for her. Maud was the only one where Pinkie felt an equal and by who she could let her guard down.
I wasn't fond of the parents though. I just felt it was a little overplayed.
I'd like to point out that The Apple family were guests so it kinda made sense for them to follow the Pie family traditions during their stay. You dont go to your in laws place & make the celebrate the holidays your way. Thats just a party faul
Science!! x3 Thank you so much for having me on the show! Happy Holidays everyone! =3
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You turned into mattpat!
SCIENCE BITCH!!! XD
Tyandaga You made me learn. I won't forgive you.
Tyandaga where you ok in the video? You sounded like had a cold.
Tyandaga this is mlp you can't science this show
Oh, Silver, we love science BECAUSE it ruins everything! Also, their mathematics do check out. Besides- this is a winter episode! Don’t be so cold! *snicker*
I'm trying to math the boulder from shadow play, it's roughly four applejack-lengths across and four and a half high, with mass removed for the slope, and likely composed of volcanic rock due to the gorge being used to channel lava. I looked up moss-covered volcanic rock and its a pretty good visual match. I'm going to find the distance thrown by measuring the walls of the gorge and the rough distance from them walls to figure out an arc, and following THAT i'm going to work out the rolling speed for the sake of momentum, but it's no good if i can't work out the dimensions of the boulder. can anyone help me with that?
But what if the boulder is not volcanic rock? Maud was using all her strength and couldn't budge it. There is also the odd shape of it to consider too that maybe the forces of erosion apply differently because it's composition is different.
Given that you refer to maud, and the odd shape, when i described it as roughly cubic, i'm going to assume there was a communication breakdown, and apologise for not being clear. I was referring to the rock from the episode "shadow play", which is another matter. Regarding the rock from THIS episode, if we assume it, as many have guessed, is indeed a dragon egg then we can assume the weight of it's internals would be greater then that of common rock, and if it is just a rock it's more likely basalt based on the factors listed in the
episode.
Thank you for joining in though, those are good factors to consider, and i appreciate it anyway.
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My response to Maud's comment about pushing as hard as she can: "... Yeah, that makes sense. After all, there is a difference between pushing and pulverizing."
Okay, so a horse could chomp a basalt rock apart... What about the effect on its digestive system? Science me that, smartypants!
My take was that AJ and Pinkie were cousins many times removed, meaning MarbleMac is not incest
I mean, it is, but in a _very_ literal sense of the word. However, for those who are married or dating someone right now, the MarbleMac relationship is probably equally as "incestuous" as your own - the bloodlines are so far removed and so diluted that to call a relationship between the two "incest" is, while _technically_ accurate, a humongous nitpick.
No matter the relation or the distance it doesn't change that they ARE in fact related.
by your definition, all relationships are incest, since all humans share a common ancestor. also, incest is defined as a relationship between close relatives, so by the very literal sense of the word, it is not incest.
Ah, well, there you go. If the relationship is not genetically very close, then it is not to be called an incestuous one. I had always just heard the definition as "related", with no indication that the closeness of the relation had any factor in it. :)
Flutterbutt225 I mean Big Mac ended up with sugar belle anyway so does it even matter?
I'm hoping that in the future, we'll get a variation of the whole thing of Twilight giving Spike a book as a present, by having it be a kind of book he'd enjoy, either because of the topic or maybe something like a graphic novel, since we know he likes comic books.
Ahhhh, the perfect Christmas Day present. A vid from silverquill.
3:20
I really liked that. It indicated that the cutie mark is indeed a sign of maturity. That Applebloom is starting to enter puberty. I really do wish they carry through on that. Not go into detail of course but that getting your cutie mark actually is what starts puberty in ponies. That we see that with all 3 of the CMC. That they take on more teenage traits.
Those two: (starts to explain why Maud *was* actually pushing the boulder as hard as she could)
You: (stops them)
Me: *LET THEM SPEAK*
I am in awe at Silver's ability to get the crap beaten out of him in a new inventive way each review. Normally it's by other reviewers or Mlp characters, but this was a character from another franchise. I applaud your ingenuity good sir.
11:08 A deer, a hippogriff, and a pony... in suits... carrying sledgehammers... what's the reference here? And Cadence isn't a jerk.
I seriously love Maud. She's the second best side character in the show after Discord. Always love episodes that have her.
The way I see it, the reason that Pinkie doesn’t explain her traditions is the same, albeit way tamer, reason that AJ is so confident about her traditions being the best. Pinkie is just ecstatic that she’s able to share her family’s traditions with someone else, someone who is also her family, even if they aren’t blood related. Pinkie is just so comfortable with AJ because she sees her as her family.
Happy Hearth Warming, Silver Quill.
Unless it's a Spike episode, isn't Spike normally the sane one.
thebeav Percabeth
Yeah.
Honestly, it's not a big deal if Pinkie Pie and AJ are related or not; I don't think the fandom really talks about it all that much to be honest. That's only really brought up when people ship Big Mac and Marble Pie. But it doesn't matter anyway since Big Mac already has a special somepony and her name is Sugar Belle.
ShadowWriter45
Even beyond that, they are way too far apart to be considered incestuous if they ever got together.
Pretty much, of all the things in that ep, that was one that made no sense even compared to all the stuff that made no sense.
Somepony having a special other somepony doesn't stop the shippers, mate
Tess Burgoyne I know that.
True Tess, which is why shippers use the word harem.
I love Maud. Her dryness makes things awesome and hilarious
17:54 Guest Director: Riddley Scott. ⊙﹏⊙
Antony C
*breathes in*
...who’s that?
Antony C who's that?
We're guessing he directed Alien, right?
But I'm not hearing any music tracked in from Freud, though. :-/
Who?
Happy Holidays!
Little surprised you don't go for the shipping joke about Big Macintosh. As out of left field as Sugar Belle came, he has this track record of crushes that, if acted on, would raise the mother of all unfortunate implications.
Cheerilee: is it real or is it lingering results of the love poison?
Marble: is it incestuous?
Fleetfoot (comics): is it it the lingering results of the head injury?
Sweatcream Scoops (comics): is she a stalker?
This reminds my of a made up holiday my family has. We all get together, make food, play poker/cards and try to keep my uncles form killing each other. We don't really have a name for it but it's a lot of fun.
That surprise science segment has me realizing Genghis Khan was real-life Zeus
“Whatever happened to love and tolerate?” I believe that went out the window when Lily Peet turned out to be a complete -insert expletive of choice here-
I never cared much if Pinkie and Applejack were actually related, I was just disappointed by the episode's ending being such a cop-out. Like, even if they _are_ related they're more distantly related than what even matters.
Okay, when I watch reviews of MLP episodes, I normally don't mind a little learning. BUT I DRAW A LINE AT SCIENCE! Great review by the way.
Honestly, even though it's only barely mentioned, the scene with Twi and Spike is my favorite part. Because my family also opens presents on Christmas Eve, and it was nice to see that.
I thing my brain exploded from all the math and stuff
My dad does family history work, and just recently discovered he and my mom are 13th cousins
Go back far enough and everyone is related
Wired 🤔
You rock silver
Welp that ending with ginger-quill escaping silver-quill's body was.. um.. dramatically weird but i still enjoyed the video Merry christmas silver!
So....he's a chest burster? neat.
ALL HAIL GINGERQUILL!
This was just, so touching, and perfect and, always great to see new ATF vids, Tyndaga and Sweetie were amazing, just, loved this all around!
This was the most educational review I have ever watched.
Merry Christmas everybrony
I know this is a bit late, but I can really relate to this episode. My grandfather had multiple wives (divorce and remarrying), but my mom became attached to one who wasn't her biological mother, or my grandfather's current wife. Now I have a whole side of my family that isn't even technically my family because of that relationship. So a story like this, with two families becoming closer without even knowing if they're related, is...hearthwarming.
you know, I always wonder why he is still alive after all that mishaps but then I remember that he is a demon
Hey hey hey, get it right, he's the Anti-Celestia!
oh yeah, sorry about that
Get it right! he's a horses patoot!
When pinkie came in the chimney it was actually continuity for the episode “hearth’s warming Eve” because when pinky was chancellor pudding head she also came in from the chimney
As a wrangler and horsewoman I’m impressed that you got all the horse facts right!! This I knew from my certification for EIA (Equine Investigation Academy). Well done.
This should be called "After The Fact: Hearthsbreakers ft Tyandaga and Sweetie Bloom" 😂. But no matter the title, I loved the video regardless
{19:10}
Oh my. I can point out SO MANY TIMES where Alleged Certainty is used in real life, much to everyone's detriment.
You have a cup filled half way with water... you pick it up with one hand and hold it. How heavy is the cup? Now hold that cup for 24 hours without putting it down... how heavy does that cup feel now? Despite the weight of the object not changing, our muscles grow tired; as a result, the longer you hold the cup, the heavier it'll feel, due to fatigue. As opposed to holding a cup for 5 minutes, then setting it down for 5 minutes, holding it for 5 minutes, and setting it down for 5 minutes... Your muscles won't become fatigued as quickly.
This same principle, applies to Maud Pie. Despite her being able to pummel a rock into dust, the pressure applied to the muscles, isn't sustained for the same period that would be required to move a boulder. ALSO, if her muscles aren't built for sustained pressure over extended periods of time, that changes matters as well.
So just because she is capable of pummeling a rock into dust, does not, in anyway, mean she can move a boulder with ease...
But there is another reason that is equally plausible... what if the boulder, has an iron core? iron being much denser, and therefore heavier, than rocks, would explain why the entire pie family is having difficulty moving it on their own. Especially since they built the farm around the boulder, which means this is the first time they are moving it.
So two possibilities, both equally likely, along with the fact, that the iron core possibility, would still have sustained pressure requirements to move, rather than obliterate. So both can be the reason behind why Maud isn't able to push the boulder all that well.
What if there is a gold core? less likely... by a long shot... but that would just make moving that boulder even worse.
Happy holidays Silverquill (and others)! Happy Hearthwarming, happy Hanukkah, Happy Christmas, Happy Kwanza, and Happy anything-else-I’m-forgetting!!!!!!!!!!!
Johnny Dominguez Merry Hanukwanza
4:23 I believe you mean "Sedimentary", Silver Quill.
guitar nice drum set nice silver quill video best christmas ever
Thanks Silverquill !! Your video was like a hot cocoa next to a cozy fireplace. Missed your reviews (After the facts OR with Silver Quilted). May you have a Merry Christmas and I wish you the best year possible for 2018!
The opening is so cute
The possible Apple/Pie relationship is something that's always made me wonder, but no I've never heard anyone talk about it since that episode came out.
Jesus! Gingerquill turned this into something out of Alien!
Oh is that why there was a predator on the train?
That thumbnail... RIP Silver-Quill. You will never be forgotten :')
I can't say that it really weighed on me. But I'd like to think that they really are related. Or at least the two families have accepted it as the norm. One of the blind reactors I watch had a 'YES, PLEASE, TELL ME' moment when he watched 'Fame and Misfortune.' And now that we've had both 'The Perfect Pear' and Big Mac's romance with Sugar Belle, I want to see the Apple Pear Pie Belle family reunion episode.
There was a lot of talk about whether an equine can bite into a rock, but I doubt that rocks are, well, digestible. If I need to eat something that never dissolves in my body, as a digestive aid for example, I'll just eat corn.
I suspect that Limestone Pie is a rebuttal to all the psycho Pinkamena material out there. "See this scary mare?" the show seems to say "She's the one you don't turn your back on!" Yet at the end of the episode, even she's not so bad.
Thanks for making this video, Silver.
N.B. Eskerata
Side note: birds eat small rocks to aid in digestion... So... Yeah.... Maybe that can work for them too... Idek.
Hmm. Good point.
There are certain minerals we need in order to function. These minerals can be found in rocks and dirt. Since horses, and ponies, are vegetarian they gain more of their dietary needs from that kind of thing.
A welcome present this is. :D Also, I don't reallty put much thought into them being related. If tHey are, good for them. If not, doesn't really subtract from my enjoyment. Part of the fun is in not knowing. Although... This episode does bring some interesting implications. The possiblity of hinting at incest does raise a few eyebrows. But the less said about that the better!
Mistydolphin
They're way to far apart for that.
I really do find it odd how that “insert fan complaints” episode had that one guy obsessed over whether Applejack and Pinkie Pie are related or not. Personally, I really don’t care, and I haven’t seen anyone else in the fandom expressing concern over it either, not to say no one does. I’ve actually held the mentality of that episodes moral for many years before it came out: family are the people you love and that love you in return. I can say this rather easily, cause I in fact HATE several of my blood relatives with a very real passion, and actually consider people that I met online and this one guy I met in high school to be my real family, because unlike my blood relatives they always lend a sympathetic ear when I need it (and sometimes I REALLY need it), listen to me even if they don’t understand or care about what I’m talking about, and even if we sometimes bicker we never let it get the better of us, as apposed to, say for example, my blood related sister who has disregard my own suicidal depression as she doesn’t think I “deserve” to be suicidal because “[her] problems are worse than mine” and couldn’t give a shit about anything I have to say unless it’s what she’s talking about.
Take it from someone who knows: blood is a meaningless fluid, and saying it’s “thicker than water” doesn’t hold any weight in the real world.
Stone soup was actually a thing in medieval Europe...
Though the rock was meant to add flavor rather than be eaten
This was fun to watch! You made some good points about the episode, and the science facts were cool too. The last bit with Gingerquill was unexpected and hilarious. I wonder where the sugary hippogriff ran off to…
Aww ginger quill looks adorable
Nom nom nom nom nom
Ginger Quill. For me, that’s a Silver Quill with a red head
I really hope we get another episode that focuses on the Pie family. Seeing them all interact with each other was such a treat. :)
14:21 What the heck?! I NEED MY SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATIONS, SILVER!!!
I'd like to add that Twilight (being the most foreign of the group) celebrating hearthswarming on the eve is actually quite true to life as many countries, such as Norway and Danmark, celebrate like this 👍
6:25 In Portugal there is an actual rock soup. Its just soup with meat and stuff and then you put a rock on it
SpectralSketches I heard of that.
The stones are heated up so they'll do the cooking once they're in the soup.
It's funny making that soup but also pretty complicated since I haven't found a good recipe yet.
The little manian
Its not exactly for the rock to do the cooking. The rock is from a story about a starving monk that finds a family and takes advantage of them by talking about a special soup made with a rock then he makes a normal soup and puts the rock in it, eats it and then takes the rock so he can fool another family
SpectralSketches
Thank you for the answer^^
So nice of you to clarify that. Great story.
I'm surprised Silver didn't mention Pinkie putting up 19 hooves when counting out the new friendships. The math checks out by the way.
A video from Silver Quill! What a great way to end Christmas this year
WOW Sweetie bloom and Tyandaga Matpated the shit out of that
(yes, I did just you teh term *Matpat* as a verb)
fun fact, seeing as Silverquill gave The Predator a cameo in this, if you ever wondered how they got the Predator's clicking sound, it's all courtesy of Optimus Prime himself, Peter Cullen
when he was brought into audition, they asked him to make a noise for a creature, but wouldn't show him a picture for him to work off of, it was only when Peter pressed for them to give him something to work with that they relented and showed him an image and thus he created the iconic clicking growl the Predator is known for.
this has been your non MLP facts for the comment section.
Merry Christmas ⛄🎄
No comment on how Boulder had his own bowl of rock soup or that he is apparently a cannibal?
I really do like this moral though I would have liked it better for Twilight. That you shouldn't be projecting your own visions on what is "better" to someone who didn't ask for it. I'm really glad the episode didn't side with Applejack on this. I do feel that since becoming a princess Twilight can be somewhat arrogant and see her own opinion as automatically being superior to that of others. I still hope they'll do that in season 8. That Twilight wants to help a situation she sees as horrible but falls flat on her face and learns she shouldn't be projecting her own visions onto others.
It's just something my mom drilled into my head from a very young age so it really rang true for me. That you need to respect other people even if you don't agree with them.
5:32 also technically everyone that is alive today are related to each other through one ancient ancestor; the first woman to have a mitochondria
( sees Dr wolf boing) 0-0 forget he's blackmail to firebrand seeing him booing angry wow Dr wolf keeps surprising me
Herculoids. THERE's a show i haven't thought of in a long time. Thank you, Mr. Quill, you got a good laugh out loud out of me with that joke.
Glad to see another After the Fact video from you, Silver Quill, especially just after Christmas. Great work, and I can't wait for the next one as you finish up Season 5 during the hiatus for Season 8.
Tyandaga, Sweetie Bloom... *dramatically points to the Dark Corner of Shame* Corner...NOW!!! As geeky as I am...that was too much science.
Oh and... *holds up broken Obscure-O-Meter* ...you broke this bringing in Gloop and Gleep from Herculoids.
I go through ten of those things before breakfast!
I really enjoyed this episode the first time I watched it. If there is one thing I am a nut about, it's culture, traditions and how different people make them their own. This episode shows 2 very different families, both in attitude and outward personalities, and yet by the end it finds that middle ground. When it comes to best pony AJ, I do like the points you came up with. I have always seen AJ as a traditionalist, one who stands firm in their own traditions and can have a hard time changing them or even adjusting, so her fall in this episode did make me sympathize with her, and made me celebrate even more when she came around in the end, willing to to bend her ways to make room for the Pie's.
As for the relation between their families...it's a fun thought, but not one I cling on that much.
Love Love Love! Best way to end Christmas day!
18:14 literally!
(Get it? Because... he's a deer, and deer are considered game... ah forget it. I'll find a ditch to lay in.)
I get it! I... I understood that joke. *Squee*
Great video! I love the Ginger-Quill bit made me think of Ash from Army of Darkness.
Maud also dug into that rock by plumbing it, each punch chipping away at more rock which could br easier than trying to support and push up a large boulder
*applause in agreement* You never cease to be insightful and thought provoking, Silver. Never change that.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
Well, I see this episode as an explanation for different kinds of celebrations and cultural differences. That we can't focus on only ours, but also we need to respect other ones.
Tyandaga, you’re darn right you’re game
Happy Holidays!
Wasn't really expecting this but I love this present. Merry Christmas Silver
Hey Silver. I have a question for you. I know Mlp is your bread and butter, but do you think you would branch out to other Cartoons when G4 is over or will you continue with G5? While you would be a little late to the party, I would like to hear your thoughts on Gravity Falls. That seems like the kind of show that you would be interested in.
Well, given the current rate.. by the time he's actually done with MLP ATF vids... wellll....
Fair enough, but I have hope.
That hidden reference to the DHX´s leaks (Sombra coming back for S9E01).
I do not think he would be answering stuff about G5 [as it basically implies "getting" the pictures and emails].