@@McL_ASennaglad I wasn't the only one who noticed like when earlier in the film the seiad the hungaroring was also silverstone the director must have done absolutely zero research
@@Sebastian-uf3vr They could not film the full le mans circuit because it includes public roads and they could not attain legal permission to film there. A few shots here and there are also from silverstone and hungaroring. So what?
@@solowundesignsbysamdavis9043 no I didn’t repeat what you said, cause someone with no common sense would ask you “ how do you know it’s a 6 second shot” and your answer would be exactly what I said….
It wasn't that he used a different line, which is basically standard to defend/overtake, it's that he knew the most optimal line for the best performance out of the car, which was entirely different than what the other drivers were using.
@@architsasta700 Modern cars(even with different classes) heavily rely on aerodynamics, and usually have the same geometric apex line. Everything deviating from that line is just worse. Worse minimum speed, worse mid-corner rotation, or worse exit (depending on the line). There are exceptions (corners bends with different radius, elevations/camber/potholes, but geometric(in some cases, a bit more squared) approach is considered optimal
The track looks more like the Hungaroring than le mans, it has the le mans straights, but that's it. The rest of the corners are just from Hungaroring.
It's from the shorter Bugatti course from the circuit, though there's no way they can go from before the Ford chicanes into the last few corners of the Bugatti course
@@ltr_official it was probably pretty expensive to get access to all of the irl track. It wouldn’t be worth the trouble for a small movie like this so even as a Endurance racing fan myself I don’t blame them
@@Cirrus5005 it was downright horrible, the acting was overdramatic and some of the lines in the script were so cringe. The biggest day of this kids life and he goes to work with his dad on the train yard then instead of rushing back to his familiar home gaming setup for the qualifying event, he goes to some gaming warehouse that only has a handful of consoles occupying a whole warehouse? Kid claims that his dream is to become a racing driver but doesn’t even have a part time job so he can buy his own car? Any real car guy would at least have been working at McDonald’s through out high school and been able to afford a second hand car by them time they were eligible for their license. And any gamer knows their home setup is the most comfortable to perform the best in.
@@matisit8673I think their joking because the only part of the 24 hours of Le Mans track (circuit de la sarthe) you see in this movie is mulsanne straight the rest is hungaroring
The scene in the arcade where he had to race to get into the GT academy, the actor had to race against, in his words, "Difficult AI" and he had to do it until he won the race. They wouldn't let him lower the difficulty and they were not going to fake it.
if he still kept on accelerating entering the corner, he would have understeered out of the corner, you can see he only puts his foot down at the apex which is accurate. you can also hear his revs going down as he enters the corner
Although this movie was great, it had so many flaws lol. That corner you're mentioning isnt really a flaw, but it is terrible throttle control from our boy. Biggest thing though is that the actual racing shown here in "Le Mans" is actually on the hungaroring lmao
@@torque-drive2488 you would see the Ford chicane and the Raccordement but we don't see hit and it's not an hairpin it's a double right there is a small straight between the two corner
@@torque-drive2488they didn’t have permission to film at Le Mans. Even if they did, up until the Mulsanne straight to the Porsche Curves, they are a part of public roads and probably would be closed.
As a race engineer, this movie made me cringe like nothing else. "the car won't hold if you don't follow the racing line" WHO EVEN THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD LINE TO SAY LMAO
First comment i saw who actually acknowledged those things. And for example when he was driving the sim in the beginning to qualify for the academy and he was 6 sec behind in the last corner and then he overtook him like wtf😂
The best explanation I can come up with myself is if he drives some crazy lines he'll destroy the tyres so the "car won't hold (without another pitstop)" but yeah, no race cars would just break down if you don't follow the racing line OK maybe Ferraris would
@@jameschang5375 I think it just means "If you don't follow the racing line and still go maximum speed possible through the corner, you will spin". Which is a really stupid and overly obvious thing to say to an experienced driver.
There's a thing called scheduling mate lmao it's not easy getting a schedule on any circuits, and most likely on Circuit dela Sarthe as well. The track was probably in use or scheduled for a testing for racers
Yeah, it’s like whenever a movie takes place in a particular city, and people who live in that city will be like, “Wait, he was just standing in street A but then he turned a corner and suddenly he’s outside building B which is miles away”.
that is just ego issue really, there is nothing wrong about a movie cannot replicate 1:1 with real event, it is the message that is important, as long as they point out the important one like, he is a gamer, turn into a racer, and the big starting point of his career is 4th placed at le mans, that's all that needs to be correct the comment just think highly of themselves for no reason
@@bigmegasnot really don't assume that stupid thought. But when u are in such a profession u just can't miss the cringe and some decisions by the filmmakers that shows lack of research on what u are directing. U don't need to be 100 percent accurate I agree with u on that bcs u can't but atleast do as much research as u can when directing it's one of the reasons why Ford vs Ferrari got a such a recognition bcs it was weel researched and well made which respected it's viewers intelligence!! What uare defending here is called artistic laziness
@@mashy0001 I missed that part. I wish the dressing had been done with CGI. For those who don't know, woooowww this is amazing. But for those in the know, WTF?
@@RyanGallup the whole point of that scene is the gamer guy with thousands of hours in game realised the racing line WASN'T optimal. I don't know where you're getting "tell me you know nothing about racing" from, this is a movie about a game, not a documentary about optimal racing lines at le mans.
The 3:14.791 that he supposedly did is actually Kamui Kobayashi's lap record from 2017, which he did in a Toyota LMP1. There's no way an LMP2 could even hope to match that. This one scene has told me the entire movie is a narrative mess.
In the movie he was driving the Nissan GT-R LM Nismo which was an LMP1 car, despite irl he got a podium in an LMP2 car. (More on that Nissan LMP1 car, that car was so slow that in the 2015 24h LM Qualifying that car set a time over 10 seconds slower than the Porsche 919)
@@Bs_Void or the true answer: this is not supposed to be Le Mans 2015. But 2013. In 2013 Jann Mardenborough raced for Greaves Motorsport in a white Nissan sponsored Zytek LMP2 with the #42. He finished third in class. Which (apart from the model) is exactly what we see here. Which would make their 3:14 a full 30 seconds faster than their Qualifying laptime
0:27 in real life Le Mans … Race Director :attention car number 23 , penalty of 1 minute , unsafe pitstop procedures, repeat car 23 , 1 minute penalty , unsafe pitstop procedures…
Everyone who follows motorsports may be irked by the use of Hungary for basically every circuit shown, but you have to admit that the film really captured the essence of motorsport and the feelings that it brings. Decent viewing experience even if its slightly cringeworthy in its execution.
Lol, whoever put "Paranoid" over this scene definitely needs a bit of praise for it. Imagine you're car's getting its tires changed, something goes wrong, and you can't see shit on what's going on.
Pro racers follow a specific path on track to avoid or minimize accidents. It's not that they don't know about it, they just don't really want to take risk.
@@Dondingdingding which is something that they do on normal basis. Not sure why they are showing it as if it was something new. Just not really realistic if you follow the sport.
This one clip manages to perfectly sum up everything wrong with racing movies in general: bad driving, unrealistic throttle and gear changes, impossible physics to do the maneuvers displayed, and inaccurate engine notes with the displayed RPMs. And despite all the technology of today, they still can't make the animated scenes of the film look more realistic than a game.
These are real cars? What are you talking about, they filmed real cars in action, the crashes were the only non practical scenes Not to mention that the real Jann was the stunt driver for Archie
@@daniel_qv3813 They had two choices: Film on a different circuit than the one they were depicting. Film everything in CGI. They chose the first. Would you have preferred a CGI fest?
@@daniel_qv3813 Me: they couldn't film on the real track, so they had to film on a different track with different corners. You: but they used different corners, this doesn't make sense. ...? They could have used all CGI, but it usually looks a lot worse, and is more expensive.
Sometimes, the tighter the line, the more turning angle is needed, and therefore, less speed; On the other hand, the more open the line, the less steering angle is needed and from there a higher speed can be maintained (without exceeding the car's grip limit, of course)
@@cakraparindra4659 you don’t even see these racing lines in F1 sprint races unless there is a significant pace advantage, brought on by fresher or softer tyres. In fact, a squarer racing line is more optimal over a more geometric racing line when driving high powered cars such as these.
@@ComTlancy93Actually F1 drivers use this tactic frequently. The 'Ideal' line or the geometric line doesn't really take into account the other factors of a vehicle. Such as suspension setup, tire wear, camber, elevation, track surface, downforce etc... and of course the perfect racing line isn't ideal for overtaking. So this tactic shown here is actually frequently used. Downforce also plays a huge roll. In a high downforce car like an LMP2 car or an F1 car you want to limit the amount of steering angle you apply otherwise you'll actually lose speed and grip in the corners due to not optimizing the downforce which only works above a certain speed. So a lot of the time you'll see wider lines like this with minimal braking because just letting off the throttle in these cars causes a large scrub in speed. Also these cars are extremely hard to drive at low speed due to having virtually zero downforce at low speeds which tends to lead to snap oversteer in these machines
Funny how he was racing an LMP3 car for the overall win driving an LMP2 class equivalent car whilst beating Audi R18s, Toyota TS040 hybrids and Porsche 919 hybrids ahaha. And the fact that the race kept changing from le mans to the Hungaroring was really confusing. It was a good story but keep things realistic
I don't think they actually had permission to really use that much of le mans so they had to improvise. Idk why people are nitpicking it so bad. It's not that complicated really
@@magiciansforce The car would do that realistically if he does a wide line and suddenly floors the throttle mid corner. the engineer was right but the plot armour said no
Did anyone notice detail about the gear each driver was in the made the situation realistic, CAPA was in gear 2 during the turn so he was actual slower cuz he too worried about the kid passing him so he wasn't paying attention, then in the final turn of the movie Jadd actually downshifted from 4th gear to 3rd so he could shift back in 4th on straightway hence why he overtook him
The story this movie is based on is amazing! but as a motorsport fan, hearing Le Mans & seeing the Circuit de la Sarthe track map on the pit wall while the cars are clearly racing around the Hungaroring made it really jarring to watch
This makes it seem like this dude invented overtaking around the outside. Also when will they make a racing movie where the driver is already going flat out when they need to go faster?
FordVFerrari was far more hype for me than this enough though it had a nice story, the race itself didn't really feel like it has that much hype compared to that
If you can bear it try grand prix from 1966. It has cheesy Hollywood moments being a product of it's time but I haven't seen racing done better. Plus it did follow the 1965 f1 season.
@@morganriot9726 It got so much stuff wrong. An LMP2 struggling with an LMP3? Whilst also lapping a supposed le sarthe (le mans) at the same lap time as the actual lap record set by an LMP1?! Nonsense.
@@Jesko.Don't forget the hero full send using the "secret" line without destroying his tyres or spearing into the crash barrier from running over marbles outside the normal racing line
in the days of gtr/gtr2/gl legends online racing...one could change the friction coef on the track on his pc and pray to be the first connected to the server. that change would just leave a small error message at the connection to the track for two seconds and never again. all be fine till he starts pulling of suspicious lap times . its like me an all time rookie start being suddenly first every race that day.
Now, I haven’t seen this movie, but this scene made me feel breathless as I watched jann climb to the top, after such a fumble from the crew, as he committed to something he saw in a sim.
Why the hell do I see the Hungaroring with Yellow/Blue painted kerbs when it should be about the 24 Hours of Le Mans? 🤣 And the track isn´t even on GT which makes it even more hilarious 😂💀
@@ulysse21Probably just had enough budget for those few shots. Pretty sure it costs a lot of money to shoot even just a couple scenes on each track in the movie
In movies, every race ends in a drag race. Don't get me wrong, i love it! But in real life racing, especially at le mans, that is very rarely the case. There can be quite a gap between each podium position.
I love when movies dramatize ordinary things. Talking about alternate lines like its some ground breaking thing no ones ever done before. "the car won't hold!" 🤣 (If you don't know, going "off line" in racing is just as common as going straight).
ah yes an lmp1 car fighting for a podium with an lmp3 car(doesnt race at le mans) at le mans(its actually hungaroring and they dont even attempt to hide it)
You know, this happened to me once, i was playing the track “Special Route X” in USA, i was using a Bugatti and my opponent who was 1st place was an Aston Martin, we were so close to the finish line, on the final lap, i was screaming for first place, i won in the split second
When i saw the title, i thought to see him crashing his opponents out of the track, shortcutting corners, pushing the rival into the wall at the end and finish the race with a handbrake spin. And especially the scene where he is playing at home is not believable. A real father would say: "playing computer again? Turn off and go play outside."
Did you watch the full movie? His father want him to be like him at first, a football player, instead of focused on the unreal dream as race car driver.
So he can't do as well in clean air, but manages to break the LMP1 record in an LMP2 by driving on the marbles, in traffic? Come on, I'm doing my best to maintain my suspension of disbelief but they've got to come up with something better than that.
@@ShadowFalcon I wasn’t talking about the location where they shot the movie. I was referring to the fact that gran turismo’s Le Mans race looks like a cheaper and lesser version of ford v ferrari’s Le Mans race
@@parzz69 And yet, the only thing everyone ever refer to, is the bloody track. And to be honest, I don't think I've seen any racing movie that was filmed at the track it was supposed to be.
@@parzz69 Or, you're just annoyed you got called out on a bit of hypocrisy. Chances are, the only reason you think you don't like GT, is because "it's the cool thing".
Because of the discussion and it's also triggers me hard 0:02 Turn 7 Hungarroring 0:16 Pitlane Hungaroring 0:47 Turn 7 Hungaroring with CGI Mod but definitely not Le Mans 1:02 Turn 4 Hungaroring 1:09 Turn 5 into 6 into 7 1:27 this looks like Le Mans CGI(not the game sequence) from 1:57 it is the Hunaudieres straight between 1 and second Chicane. This is not from a real race because the tire barrier in the second chicane is blocking the gravel bed in the chicane. The straight part bypassing the chicane is closed with tires. Normally it's open so that cars missing the breakpoint could go through it. The camera crane is on track. 2:54 Turn 7 Hungaroring 3:16 gravel bed looks like turn 1 Hungaroring 3:21 Turn 15 into 16 Hungaroring 3:31 this is funny. It's turn 16 Hungaroring but they removed the medical building and add the pitlane building from Le Mans(bottom of the screen). The pit lane entrance in Le Mans looks totally different. 3:40 too small but I guess it the only real Le Mans 3:57 Turn 4 Hungaroring but the removed turn 1 with CGI 4:07 Le Mans but CGI 4:18 this is the second chicane on Hunaudieres straight here the tires are not in front of the gravel bed. The straight part is open as an exit. BUT the tire barrier is too narrow to go through it and the camera crane is gone. 4:32 this is Hungarorring between turn 1 and 2. The only "bridge"-like thing in Le Mans is in the dunlop-curveswith its ark and guess why it is called dunlop-currves. 5:05 I guess turn 12 but for this they did some CGI 5:25 this is wild. It is Hungarrorings turn 15 and 16. The removed turn 14(90° bent) with CGI and made it straight. The buildings are from LeMans. The Pitlane entry is Hungarorrrring. The infield of turn 16 tries to show the Le Mans pitlane entry but leads into nothing and there is no parking lot at this position in Le Mans. 5:57 this looks like LeMans (maybe a little too narrow) The Nissmo Car look like modified Toyota GR10.
Hi everyone! What grade (out of 10) would you give this video?
Title is wrong: this is not the 24 hours of Le Mans because they are racing in the Bugatti circuit...
@@Sebastian-uf3vr its the Hungaroring actually so its nowhere near Le Mans (Movie Grade 4/10)
7/10?😅
@@McL_ASennaglad I wasn't the only one who noticed like when earlier in the film the seiad the hungaroring was also silverstone the director must have done absolutely zero research
@@Sebastian-uf3vr They could not film the full le mans circuit because it includes public roads and they could not attain legal permission to film there. A few shots here and there are also from silverstone and hungaroring. So what?
4:04 I love this scene. Such a clever camera placement to show how far that 6 second gap really is.
It’s literally a 6 second shot too.
Wow good catch - super cool
@@solowundesignsbysamdavis9043if you time it correctly it’s exactly 6 seconds
@@YaGotBusted you just repeated what i said
@@solowundesignsbysamdavis9043 no I didn’t repeat what you said, cause someone with no common sense would ask you “ how do you know it’s a 6 second shot” and your answer would be exactly what I said….
Damn thats crazy, the genious tactic of "If car on line, use a different one" truly one of the racing drivers of all time
It wasn't that he used a different line, which is basically standard to defend/overtake, it's that he knew the most optimal line for the best performance out of the car, which was entirely different than what the other drivers were using.
@@slayerjohn447 This is unfathomably wrong
@@slayerjohn447 wrong opinion
@@vasman4034 Wrong, give us an explanation as to why then
@@architsasta700 Modern cars(even with different classes) heavily rely on aerodynamics, and usually have the same geometric apex line. Everything deviating from that line is just worse. Worse minimum speed, worse mid-corner rotation, or worse exit (depending on the line).
There are exceptions (corners bends with different radius, elevations/camber/potholes, but geometric(in some cases, a bit more squared) approach is considered optimal
The track looks more like the Hungaroring than le mans, it has the le mans straights, but that's it. The rest of the corners are just from Hungaroring.
Me and my friend both said this, the real track ends in a double chicane and in the movie its a double hairpin
It's from the shorter Bugatti course from the circuit, though there's no way they can go from before the Ford chicanes into the last few corners of the Bugatti course
It is
It is indeed Hungaroring
most likely that's where it was recorded
"Mom, can we go to Le Mans?"
"No honey we have Le Mans at home."
Le Mans at home:
its a total mix of tracks. Le mans and the Hungaroring, like wth is this. This is an insult to people who follows the WEC series.
@@ltr_official it was probably pretty expensive to get access to all of the irl track. It wouldn’t be worth the trouble for a small movie like this so even as a Endurance racing fan myself I don’t blame them
I agree, this thing bothered me a lot
Le Hungaroring more like. 😂🤣
@@ltr_official Exactly smh ಠ︵ಠ
2:22 biggest voice crack in hisitory of movies
Oml 😂
Ah, hisitory indeed 😂😂
😂😂😂 I can't with this film. I've tried to get through it twice already, but it's just for gen pop.
@@Cirrus5005 it was downright horrible, the acting was overdramatic and some of the lines in the script were so cringe.
The biggest day of this kids life and he goes to work with his dad on the train yard then instead of rushing back to his familiar home gaming setup for the qualifying event, he goes to some gaming warehouse that only has a handful of consoles occupying a whole warehouse? Kid claims that his dream is to become a racing driver but doesn’t even have a part time job so he can buy his own car?
Any real car guy would at least have been working at McDonald’s through out high school and been able to afford a second hand car by them time they were eligible for their license. And any gamer knows their home setup is the most comfortable to perform the best in.
@@jdfuturaprob closer and the wifi there was prob more insane 😂😂
A 3:14.791 has got to be one of the slowest timed laps a prototype car has ever done around the Hungaroring
lol
Its 24le mans
its no the Hungaroring what are u on
@@matisit8673I think their joking because the only part of the 24 hours of Le Mans track (circuit de la sarthe) you see in this movie is mulsanne straight the rest is hungaroring
@@shanebrown8726 bingo!
good thing the AI's were on easy
fr
That's what they say about Max Verstappen's experience in F1 right now.
@@takatamiyagawa5688😂😂😂😂
The scene in the arcade where he had to race to get into the GT academy, the actor had to race against, in his words, "Difficult AI" and he had to do it until he won the race. They wouldn't let him lower the difficulty and they were not going to fake it.
good thing that he is racing against GT6 AI😮💨
1:35 "Are you winning son?"
😂
🤣🤣🤣
Jann: Yes im am
Jann's dad: Ok *drinks coffe*
@@ThatOneJapanFan
Photo finish! 5:51
Technoblade dad reference...
Love how he would 'put' his foot 'down' (even though his foot wouldve already been down?) and somehow gain an extra 5,000 revs and about 300 hp xD
That's some fast and furious logic right there
no not on that corner you would have to lift before the apex and then get down on the power, so its accurate
if he still kept on accelerating entering the corner, he would have understeered out of the corner, you can see he only puts his foot down at the apex which is accurate. you can also hear his revs going down as he enters the corner
Although this movie was great, it had so many flaws lol. That corner you're mentioning isnt really a flaw, but it is terrible throttle control from our boy. Biggest thing though is that the actual racing shown here in "Le Mans" is actually on the hungaroring lmao
@@blockytofuit would happen during the straights too
5:17 ah yes the famous Le Mans last turn: an hairpin
I think it's at bugatti circuit which is pretty much a track inside le mans
@@torque-drive2488 you would see the Ford chicane and the Raccordement but we don't see hit and it's not an hairpin it's a double right there is a small straight between the two corner
@@torque-drive2488they didn’t have permission to film at Le Mans. Even if they did, up until the Mulsanne straight to the Porsche Curves, they are a part of public roads and probably would be closed.
@@torque-drive2488Even those last few corners are not perfectly circular than on his film
@@torque-drive2488 it is hungaroring
As a race engineer, this movie made me cringe like nothing else. "the car won't hold if you don't follow the racing line" WHO EVEN THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD LINE TO SAY LMAO
First comment i saw who actually acknowledged those things. And for example when he was driving the sim in the beginning to qualify for the academy and he was 6 sec behind in the last corner and then he overtook him like wtf😂
The best explanation I can come up with myself is if he drives some crazy lines he'll destroy the tyres so the "car won't hold (without another pitstop)" but yeah, no race cars would just break down if you don't follow the racing line
OK maybe Ferraris would
@@jameschang5375 I think it just means "If you don't follow the racing line and still go maximum speed possible through the corner, you will spin". Which is a really stupid and overly obvious thing to say to an experienced driver.
@@linuskli09 because he ✨decided✨ to go faster
😂
The movie may not be as realistic, but it definitely is fun to watch. I think that's what I really love about the movie
I know. You can really feel the thrill of the action here.
Is based off a real story and it did happen
I don't expect such a movie to be "fun"
@@G0UDIE entertaining maybe
@@myworld4257 yes the story itself happend, but every cinematic movie based on a real story is full of factual faults just for it to work as a film.
I love the movie, but Le Mans at Budapest 😂
That's what i was thinking 😂
They even changed the curb colours to make it look like it’s Le Mans 😂 gotta appreciate the effort at least lol
Also, LMP3 cars at Le Mans?? And wtf is Jann driving? LMP2? Nissan LMP1?
they probably didnt get permission to shoot at the actual le mans circuit
There's a thing called scheduling mate lmao it's not easy getting a schedule on any circuits, and most likely on Circuit dela Sarthe as well. The track was probably in use or scheduled for a testing for racers
24 Hours of Hungary 🔥🔥🔥
LMFAO
😂LOL
3 minute lap record
Looks like people who know about racing are cursed with knowledge here…
I don’t so I enjoyed this a lot haha.
Underrated comment. Sometimes ignorance truly is bliss
Yeah, it’s like whenever a movie takes place in a particular city, and people who live in that city will be like, “Wait, he was just standing in street A but then he turned a corner and suddenly he’s outside building B which is miles away”.
that is just ego issue really, there is nothing wrong about a movie cannot replicate 1:1 with real event, it is the message that is important, as long as they point out the important one like, he is a gamer, turn into a racer, and the big starting point of his career is 4th placed at le mans, that's all that needs to be correct
the comment just think highly of themselves for no reason
And those people don't really have much knowledge. The Le Mans circuit is mostly public road so they can't just lockdown the roads to take the movie
@@bigmegasnot really don't assume that stupid thought. But when u are in such a profession u just can't miss the cringe and some decisions by the filmmakers that shows lack of research on what u are directing. U don't need to be 100 percent accurate I agree with u on that bcs u can't but atleast do as much research as u can when directing it's one of the reasons why Ford vs Ferrari got a such a recognition bcs it was weel researched and well made which respected it's viewers intelligence!! What uare defending here is called artistic laziness
Drivers are teleporting from France to Hungary :D. LeMans+Hungaroring
Some of it was also filmed at Slovakiaring.
@@mashy0001 I missed that part. I wish the dressing had been done with CGI. For those who don't know, woooowww this is amazing. But for those in the know, WTF?
Basically it's like Burnout 1 and 3's "marathon" track, which combines both countries into one track.
The 1st turns of Hungary are great though
I like the part where he took sub optimal lines to pass multiple cars, yet still set a lap record.
they are not sub optimal, thats the whole point
@@junish6276 tell me you know nothing about racing without telling me you know nothing about racing
@@RyanGallup the whole point of that scene is the gamer guy with thousands of hours in game realised the racing line WASN'T optimal. I don't know where you're getting "tell me you know nothing about racing" from, this is a movie about a game, not a documentary about optimal racing lines at le mans.
@@ZargothraxAC5 Show me ONE video of literally any lap record where a car was overtaken while on the racing line. I’ll wait.
@ZargothraxAC5 Yet thousands of previous drivers across millions of laps never figured it out - but 'gamer guy' lol horseshit
The 3:14.791 that he supposedly did is actually Kamui Kobayashi's lap record from 2017, which he did in a Toyota LMP1. There's no way an LMP2 could even hope to match that.
This one scene has told me the entire movie is a narrative mess.
It's a movie, not a historical documentary. A movie's purpose is to entertain, not to inform. And entertainment doesn't always mean truth,
In the movie he was driving the Nissan GT-R LM Nismo which was an LMP1 car, despite irl he got a podium in an LMP2 car. (More on that Nissan LMP1 car, that car was so slow that in the 2015 24h LM Qualifying that car set a time over 10 seconds slower than the Porsche 919)
@@Bs_Void Interestingly they used a Ligier JS PX to stand in for an LMP1 car instead
@NoodlesDragon Its probably because it was such a disaster Nissan already had most of them destroyed xd
@@Bs_Void or the true answer: this is not supposed to be Le Mans 2015. But 2013.
In 2013 Jann Mardenborough raced for Greaves Motorsport in a white Nissan sponsored Zytek LMP2 with the #42. He finished third in class.
Which (apart from the model) is exactly what we see here.
Which would make their 3:14 a full 30 seconds faster than their Qualifying laptime
1:26 there is something beautiful about this part of the race
I listen to it while currency trading every morning!
Real
The movie was way better than what I was expecting. Kudos to the whole filming team
Watch a single real race. You'll realize how much crap this movie is. It's an embarrassment to real racing. This is just need for speed.
@@Robert99909 who tf cares? It's still a fun movie
@@Robert99909Who asked? It's a fun movie, you can go sit and hate in the corner while we have fun.
3:59 the Whistle
6:05 Man I LOVE David Harbour Acting like this after mardenborough finish podium
0:27 in real life Le Mans … Race Director :attention car number 23 , penalty of 1 minute , unsafe pitstop procedures, repeat car 23 , 1 minute penalty , unsafe pitstop procedures…
In real life the team got the 3rd place class finish because the car ahead of them was disqualified post race. There was no racing to the finish line.
According to this movie every racetrack apart from Redbull ring and Nurburgring is Hungaroring
There's also Dubai Autodrome.
Not gonna lie that finish brought tears to my eyes. Emotional overload!
Everyone who follows motorsports may be irked by the use of Hungary for basically every circuit shown, but you have to admit that the film really captured the essence of motorsport and the feelings that it brings. Decent viewing experience even if its slightly cringeworthy in its execution.
Lol, whoever put "Paranoid" over this scene definitely needs a bit of praise for it. Imagine you're car's getting its tires changed, something goes wrong, and you can't see shit on what's going on.
Nah bro. I think it's out of place. it's a fucking racing movie, not a vietnam war movie.
@@TheDestinedMonkeeno its seriously perfect
@@TheDestinedMonkee it's not a race, it's war
When you are pitting in for a change but suddenly get your grandpa's PTSD:
Every sim racer who watched this at the cinema drove home like a maniac 😂
I don’t care what anyone says this was an incredible movie and the ending straight up chills !!!!
That’s what I’m saying. It was great movie in general. Although it’s based on a true story, it wasn’t meant to be as realistic as a documentary
Best video game movie so far.
It was a dream movie for sure
I love how they discovered overtaking outside of optimal racing line. So innovative...
Pro racers follow a specific path on track to avoid or minimize accidents. It's not that they don't know about it, they just don't really want to take risk.
@@Dondingdingding which is something that they do on normal basis. Not sure why they are showing it as if it was something new. Just not really realistic if you follow the sport.
5:19 what hell with the track xD
I noticed the same, that bit is of the bugatti circuit although in some parts they go on the mulsanne which is not part of the bugatti circuit 🤔
@@Faded877 its the last hairpain from hungaroring over the chicanes in Le Mans
2:47 "You know what Fuck it, follow the line Jann."
This one clip manages to perfectly sum up everything wrong with racing movies in general: bad driving, unrealistic throttle and gear changes, impossible physics to do the maneuvers displayed, and inaccurate engine notes with the displayed RPMs. And despite all the technology of today, they still can't make the animated scenes of the film look more realistic than a game.
You forgot they showing not existing corners and the sequence of the corners also incorrect
These are real cars? What are you talking about, they filmed real cars in action, the crashes were the only non practical scenes
Not to mention that the real Jann was the stunt driver for Archie
@@daniel_qv3813 They had two choices:
Film on a different circuit than the one they were depicting.
Film everything in CGI.
They chose the first. Would you have preferred a CGI fest?
@@HALLish-jl5mo they took corners from a different track, so you answer doesnt make sense, and yes why no cgi?
@@daniel_qv3813 Me: they couldn't film on the real track, so they had to film on a different track with different corners.
You: but they used different corners, this doesn't make sense.
...?
They could have used all CGI, but it usually looks a lot worse, and is more expensive.
Sometimes, the tighter the line, the more turning angle is needed, and therefore, less speed; On the other hand, the more open the line, the less steering angle is needed and from there a higher speed can be maintained (without exceeding the car's grip limit, of course)
yeah, its the same way inertia works basically
Cope. Why wasn't every other driver using that same strategy then?
@@ComTlancy93it stresses the car more perhaps? That's a bit too risky for endurance races such as this
@@cakraparindra4659 you don’t even see these racing lines in F1 sprint races unless there is a significant pace advantage, brought on by fresher or softer tyres. In fact, a squarer racing line is more optimal over a more geometric racing line when driving high powered cars such as these.
@@ComTlancy93Actually F1 drivers use this tactic frequently. The 'Ideal' line or the geometric line doesn't really take into account the other factors of a vehicle. Such as suspension setup, tire wear, camber, elevation, track surface, downforce etc... and of course the perfect racing line isn't ideal for overtaking. So this tactic shown here is actually frequently used. Downforce also plays a huge roll. In a high downforce car like an LMP2 car or an F1 car you want to limit the amount of steering angle you apply otherwise you'll actually lose speed and grip in the corners due to not optimizing the downforce which only works above a certain speed. So a lot of the time you'll see wider lines like this with minimal braking because just letting off the throttle in these cars causes a large scrub in speed. Also these cars are extremely hard to drive at low speed due to having virtually zero downforce at low speeds which tends to lead to snap oversteer in these machines
Funny how he was racing an LMP3 car for the overall win driving an LMP2 class equivalent car whilst beating Audi R18s, Toyota TS040 hybrids and Porsche 919 hybrids ahaha. And the fact that the race kept changing from le mans to the Hungaroring was really confusing. It was a good story but keep things realistic
I don't think they actually had permission to really use that much of le mans so they had to improvise. Idk why people are nitpicking it so bad. It's not that complicated really
All the wanna-bes with zero knowledge are trying to act cool over le mans
1:25 THIS SCENE WAS AMAZING
"the car won't hold"
bro, it's not like he's doing something risky that could jeapordise the internals of the car. It's just a different line
He likely meant it won't hold the line and it'll likely either make him fishtail, roll, or send him into the wall.
@@magiciansforce The car would do that realistically if he does a wide line and suddenly floors the throttle mid corner. the engineer was right but the plot armour said no
I like the addition of the game's graphics. It's amazing!
5:49 The whole theatre cheered
The winner ain't the one with the fastest car, it's the one who refuses to lose
~ Dale Earnhardt Sr (1951-2001)
Jann Mardenborough: Lightning McQueen
Nicholas Capa: Chick Hicks
Nicholas's father: Professor Zundapp (voice actor reference)
Love how he psych him out on the final turn, made him get emotional, was beautiful touch!!!
"I didn't come here to finish"
That is the #1 goal of any Le Mans team.
That clip of Pits is like Ferrari pit crew lol
Did anyone notice detail about the gear each driver was in the made the situation realistic, CAPA was in gear 2 during the turn so he was actual slower cuz he too worried about the kid passing him so he wasn't paying attention, then in the final turn of the movie Jadd actually downshifted from 4th gear to 3rd so he could shift back in 4th on straightway hence why he overtook him
The film was decent but those lines he took were goofy man, it was like watching someone overtake on easy mode 😂
I'm not saying the GT movie is bad but that ending was abysmal
You won because you applied rubberbanding, not because of pure skill.
Unbelievable finish! That last lap had me on the edge of my seat. What a thrilling race!
The story this movie is based on is amazing! but as a motorsport fan, hearing Le Mans & seeing the Circuit de la Sarthe track map on the pit wall while the cars are clearly racing around the Hungaroring made it really jarring to watch
Don't act cool and don't be a pretender wanna be. They couldn't use le mans and had to improvise so get over that part and let others enjoy.
This makes it seem like this dude invented overtaking around the outside. Also when will they make a racing movie where the driver is already going flat out when they need to go faster?
Seeing the Hungaroring in the thumbnail alone already hurt my eyes
1:21 GRID Autosport qualifying moment
The description is wrong, that move was to secure 3rd place, not win. Gran Turismo is one of my fav movies of all time, so well done.
In my opinion this is the greatest movie ever made! 🔥🔥🔥👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
FordVFerrari was far more hype for me than this enough though it had a nice story, the race itself didn't really feel like it has that much hype compared to that
Ford V Ferrari was a legitimate true story movie. This is a very loose biopic/video game movie.
You should watch Rush. The final race is way more hyped and is completely true. Music, acting everything is on point.
Honestly, this movie reminded me of ‘Days of Thunder’ more than anything else.
my brain melted watching this, why we don't get a proper race movie? :(
If you can bear it try grand prix from 1966. It has cheesy Hollywood moments being a product of it's time but I haven't seen racing done better. Plus it did follow the 1965 f1 season.
LeMans 66 is a great one compared to this crap🤣
how is this not a proper race movie?
@@morganriot9726 It got so much stuff wrong. An LMP2 struggling with an LMP3? Whilst also lapping a supposed le sarthe (le mans) at the same lap time as the actual lap record set by an LMP1?! Nonsense.
@@Jesko.Don't forget the hero full send using the "secret" line without destroying his tyres or spearing into the crash barrier from running over marbles outside the normal racing line
10/10 movie would recommend it to anyone with an interest in cars/racing i loved it
Note to directors: if you're making a film about racing, learn about how driving and racing actually works.
I saw this 4 times in the theatres and everyone went crazy at this part. Goosebumps everytime!
“If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver.” Ayrton Senna
Spoken as a response to why he rammed into another guy head-on at 300+ km/h to secure a world title. That's very inspiring right there.
"the boy just goes and finds grip everywhere else"
in the days of gtr/gtr2/gl legends online racing...one could change the friction coef on the track on his pc and pray to be the first connected to the server. that change would just leave a small error message at the connection to the track for two seconds and never again. all be fine till he starts pulling of suspicious lap times . its like me an all time rookie start being suddenly first every race that day.
Now, I haven’t seen this movie, but this scene made me feel breathless as I watched jann climb to the top, after such a fumble from the crew, as he committed to something he saw in a sim.
0:36 and that's a penalty right there. No wheelspin allowed in the pits at 24h of Le Mans!
What if it was an accident
@@Shahzaine If an 'accident' was used every time as an excuse then no one would ever get penalized.
24h of Hungaroring with Mulsanne straight as a DLC.
But I like the film.
5:11 Jann did what Takumi did against Nakazato :O
Max against Lewis as well...
And also Seneca's 22 against Nathan McKane (Ravenwest) as well...
It’s kinda funny that the GT dev’s used to make fun of Forza for having the racing line as an option, yet here it is in their movie 🤣
the fact that people only complains about the track only shows how good the races are in this movie
Lol divebombing into every corner just like I do in racing games
2:23 nice voicecrack
It’s like the opposite of “I _talked_ to Barzini” from The Godfather.
3:59 is the best sutututu I've ever heard
i feel bad on the guy that accidentally dropped the screw. i know he forgot to bring a rescue screw but that dude deserved better. ( 0:06 )
This movie was so good... I watched it a second time like 2 days after I watched it for the first time
Le Mans is not available since is a public road, if I'm not wrong, it can be only closed for the actual race and that's it. Still INSANE SOUND DESING.
imagine having 24h only after the official race to shot a movie 😂
They could at least have the Bugatti to make the thing but they didn't even bother with it, we can clearly see that everything is botched
5:58 love how all the audience is legit props since getting hundreds of ppl would cost to much money legit none of them move so its ez to tell
Just like in the early games. Cardboard cut outs 😂
5:17 Alex Jacques voice
Why the hell do I see the Hungaroring with Yellow/Blue painted kerbs when it should be about the 24 Hours of Le Mans? 🤣
And the track isn´t even on GT which makes it even more hilarious 😂💀
Maybe because they didn’t had permission to race at Le Mans
@@JaydanPuriel There are shits of Mulsanne straights and other parts of le Mans though...
@@ulysse21Probably just had enough budget for those few shots. Pretty sure it costs a lot of money to shoot even just a couple scenes on each track in the movie
During the Hockenheimring round in the FIA GT3 championship, you can also see Hungaroring on the background.
I think they don't have a permission to take a shoot at le mans knowing that the track have a public road
Sometimes it was the Hungaroringand sometimes it was Le Mans
0:34 Wheelspin on leaving pitlane is not allowed in WEC
Ah yes the genius tactic of having your own line
Truly, groundbreaking stuff
Talk about playing it loose with the term “based on a TRUE story”
This movie gets hyped 10 out of 10 is perfection, Jann has got 3rd place for the podium to 24 Hours of Le Mans track mix up the track Hungaroring!
The thing is you can't really use Le man's for filming as it is a public road. So they had to improvise and I sort of like it
3:49 *Cues: The Top - Ken Blast
In that time when I was watching the movie.. I was in the begets of happiness moments in my life... 😃😃😃😃😃
05:28 This scene reminds me of 2021 when Red Bull mechanics ran towards the finish line for Max winning his first title. Pure F1 vibes.
Yeah and they put kamui kobayashi lap record in the movie
The one on the lead probably did a Max Verstappen move
Who is Max
I was high when I watched this movie first now I'm like damn 😂😂 I didn't even think about this track not being le Mans
In movies, every race ends in a drag race. Don't get me wrong, i love it! But in real life racing, especially at le mans, that is very rarely the case. There can be quite a gap between each podium position.
I love when movies dramatize ordinary things. Talking about alternate lines like its some ground breaking thing no ones ever done before. "the car won't hold!" 🤣 (If you don't know, going "off line" in racing is just as common as going straight).
ah yes an lmp1 car fighting for a podium with an lmp3 car(doesnt race at le mans) at le mans(its actually hungaroring and they dont even attempt to hide it)
5:50 The whole theater cheered
You know, this happened to me once, i was playing the track “Special Route X” in USA, i was using a Bugatti and my opponent who was 1st place was an Aston Martin, we were so close to the finish line, on the final lap, i was screaming for first place, i won in the split second
When i saw the title, i thought to see him crashing his opponents out of the track, shortcutting corners, pushing the rival into the wall at the end and finish the race with a handbrake spin.
And especially the scene where he is playing at home is not believable. A real father would say: "playing computer again? Turn off and go play outside."
Did you watch the full movie? His father want him to be like him at first, a football player, instead of focused on the unreal dream as race car driver.
@@muzs89 turn off your phone and go play outside
@@petarslavoroduzasny can't, I got job to do, bills to pay. Hard time to go playing. How old are you?
@@muzs89 then go work. Pay bills!
@@petarslavoroduzasny woo someone got their period earlier. Did your mom or daddy kick you out from home?
I watch Gran Turismo when I was 11 years old at the cinema!
How old are you now? 😂
So he can't do as well in clean air, but manages to break the LMP1 record in an LMP2 by driving on the marbles, in traffic? Come on, I'm doing my best to maintain my suspension of disbelief but they've got to come up with something better than that.
This may shock you but this is based on a true story 😱
@@JB275w Extremely loosely based on a true story.
@@vvoof2601 yeah probably
@@JB275wjann hasn't won irl and he drove lmp2, I guess if you aren't into wec the movie is great
@@Amazinglyultra read my other comment
5:11 the best scene
He did something called "Pro Gamer move"
"whoa! Hey! Don't push me, pal!"
the comedic minds of movie directors
I like how they give the kamu koboyakshi le man's record lap to him
Son : Mom, i want the movie where they race Le Mans at the end (Ford v Ferrari).
Mom : We already have it at home.
The movie at home :
Ford v Ferrari didn't shoot at La Sarthe either.
And no one gives a flying that Rush filmed at Snetterton for Monza.
Wonder why 🤔
@@ShadowFalcon I wasn’t talking about the location where they shot the movie. I was referring to the fact that gran turismo’s Le Mans race looks like a cheaper and lesser version of ford v ferrari’s Le Mans race
@@parzz69
And yet, the only thing everyone ever refer to, is the bloody track.
And to be honest, I don't think I've seen any racing movie that was filmed at the track it was supposed to be.
@@ShadowFalcon Yet, you don’t get that my comment wasn’t about where they shot the scene
@@parzz69
Or, you're just annoyed you got called out on a bit of hypocrisy.
Chances are, the only reason you think you don't like GT, is because "it's the cool thing".
Because of the discussion and it's also triggers me hard
0:02 Turn 7 Hungarroring
0:16 Pitlane Hungaroring
0:47 Turn 7 Hungaroring with CGI Mod but definitely not Le Mans
1:02 Turn 4 Hungaroring
1:09 Turn 5 into 6 into 7
1:27 this looks like Le Mans CGI(not the game sequence) from 1:57 it is the Hunaudieres straight between 1 and second Chicane. This is not from a real race because the tire barrier in the second chicane is blocking the gravel bed in the chicane. The straight part bypassing the chicane is closed with tires. Normally it's open so that cars missing the breakpoint could go through it. The camera crane is on track.
2:54 Turn 7 Hungaroring
3:16 gravel bed looks like turn 1 Hungaroring
3:21 Turn 15 into 16 Hungaroring
3:31 this is funny. It's turn 16 Hungaroring but they removed the medical building and add the pitlane building from Le Mans(bottom of the screen). The pit lane entrance in Le Mans looks totally different.
3:40 too small but I guess it the only real Le Mans
3:57 Turn 4 Hungaroring but the removed turn 1 with CGI
4:07 Le Mans but CGI
4:18 this is the second chicane on Hunaudieres straight here the tires are not in front of the gravel bed. The straight part is open as an exit. BUT the tire barrier is too narrow to go through it and the camera crane is gone.
4:32 this is Hungarorring between turn 1 and 2. The only "bridge"-like thing in Le Mans is in the dunlop-curveswith its ark and guess why it is called dunlop-currves.
5:05 I guess turn 12 but for this they did some CGI
5:25 this is wild. It is Hungarrorings turn 15 and 16. The removed turn 14(90° bent) with CGI and made it straight. The buildings are from LeMans. The Pitlane entry is Hungarorrrring. The infield of turn 16 tries to show the Le Mans pitlane entry but leads into nothing and there is no parking lot at this position in Le Mans.
5:57 this looks like LeMans (maybe a little too narrow)
The Nissmo Car look like modified Toyota GR10.