Angel Hernandez Calls 3 Straight Pitches Way Off the Plate For Strikes
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Someone should have told Angel not to look at the solar eclipse without glasses.
😂
Ded 😂
The man has been blind for years. If anything staring into the sun might be an improvement.
😂😂😂
How could you know if he did?
Angel H. is a stock holder in the RoboUmp company.
😂
Finally, a real explanation!
You may be on to something!!😂
He's the fucking CEO bruh
This sounds like a conflict of interest.
Angel Hernandez has been fixing games his entire career.
8-1 lead? Not much fixing to be done there, doesn’t add up.
@@blakewhitaker6371agree. He’s just that bad.
@@blakewhitaker6371people bet on everything.
Maybe there's a line on how many strikeouts each game, or call 3 strikes.
@@Cybeldar good point. or maybe he just sucks that terribly
He is fixing nothing. He's not dirty. He is just bad. Awful.
Kudos to the hitter for keeping his anger in check. Hernandez is just giving Umpires a bigger black eye every time he does this.
Lol what anger? There is legitimately no anger to be had in this situation... unless of course you are a sociopath
@@djshuffl3r
MLB needs to handle this Hernandez situation because the players eventually will.
These were just three of the probably 50 pitches he missed this badly the whole game. It was nuts.
Hernandez’s consistency is amazing!
🤣
Also how he can consistently not gaf about the whole world thinking he's an idiot.
We were expecting his abilities would somehow improve this season🤔🤔🤔
If I was so bad at my job in front of massive crowds time and time again I would never be able to show my face around there again. He must have been born without a sense of shame.
Shame went out of the window when he looks at his $450,000.00 salary, staying in 5 star hotels and working 7 months in the year. The tragedy is that Joe West made also a mockery of the profession until age 68 and Angel is only 62. So we are looking at least 6 more years of this sideshow.
Fire this man
It cannot be done because the Umpires Union protect him. This is ironic because the players have also a Union but the MLB Players Union would not be able to protect this level of incompetence in a player. If a player does not produce, he will be out of a job real quick. I wish the same standard could be applied to Umpires.
He might as well run me every at-bat.
I wish it was that easy
Man, I would LOVE to see how Billy Martin would have dealt with this guy.
That would be awesome!
Earl Weaver too!
I was waiting for this breakdown, since the moment I saw that pitch sequence
Haha! Would have done it sooner but was at baseball all day
Same!! I thought about inboxing you, but I knew 1M others would 😂
I do think he tries to do one crazy thing per game now. Its gone up a level this season for sure from him. He just doesnt care. He knows theres no consequence and I think he enjoys the hate at this point or views himself as some sort of hero that generates more interest in baseball through all the hate. Like hes embraced his role as town-drunk umpire at this point.
You might be right. And it's an especially garbage low-life thing to do against a rookie. I mean, a rookie is trying to break into the top-tier level of the game. And he's going to mess around with his stats like that? I'm no Rangers fan, but that just takes a garbage human being to do to someone.
@@Nihilianth That would require him giving a shit.
More like ‘village idiot’, but I understand where you are coming from.
I buy it. He's turned full heel. Who will deliver the RKO that ends his reign of terror??
@@roadbeef Stone Cold Stunner might make a bigger impact!!
Atleast he is consistent
Haha I guess so
No, no, no. Consistently wrong is not acceptable.
I was at this game last night. As the game was starting, Angel Hernandez’s name flashed up on the board as the plate umpire. My grandson started invoking the name of Jesus.
Can we please show some compassion for Mr. Hernandez and get him a leader dog?
How about a hot dog and season tickets? 😅
@@roberttassone7676 - For Angel or the dog? 🙂
3 beautiful pitches on the outside corner!
Kudos to the pitcher!
Bench the lazy batter who missed his opportunity to punch it to right Field.
You must be Angel's son or just have a poor sense of humor.
The strike zone is where the ball crosses the plate. The ball can cross any parts of the plate not just the front edge. The pitcher uses the entire plate. The umpires of course know the rules of balls and strikes
Right. We see the pitches from directly behind the pitcher. We see where the ball ends up. We can’t see where it is when it reaches the front of the plate. If you really want to know if the call was right or wrong you’d need to see a directly overhead view.
It's not where the catcher catches it, it's where it crosses the plate that matters. A good curve and a good slider is going to trail off at the end.
Finally some one knows pitching 🙌
I was thinking the same thing. It looks like the robo-dot that shows up, is where the catcher is catching it. This is a good 2 feet behind the front of the plate. Isn't there also an overhead camera looking at how the ball crosses the plate?
How are things in Houstin today?
A strike is any ball that crosses the plate above the knees and below the chest.
Because the plate is 17" deep and the catcher is another foot and a half behind that, that ball has almost 3 feet to move off the plate before it is caught.
This breaking ball appears to catch the front corner, though it is hard to tell from a 2D video.
You read my mind.. I was about to post the same comment!
It’s not where the ball is caught by the catcher, what matters is where the ball crosses the plate. It looks like the ball catches the corner on the outside of the plate and continues to break away and is caught off the plate. It’s hard to tell 100% but that’s what I see on this video.
A strike is IF the ball crosses the FRONT of the plate, within the high/low strike zone, NOT where the catcher catches it. Period.
Maybe the first one, and even that's a big maybe. But not the next two. Go frame-by-frame on these (the < and > keys below the comma and period) on a desktop, and we can follow Langford Wyatt's eyes and head to tell exactly when the ball crosses in front of him. It's relatively easy to see this way exactly when it crosses the plate. And if you don't like that method, then try this: In this video it takes 11 or 12 frames, depending on the pitch, to go from the pitcher's hand to the catcher's glove. That's 93' according to you. So, we can figure at least 7' per frame (probably more) even factoring descending velocity at the plate. We can go a frame back from the catch, and see where the ball was. Sorry, these are not strikes, they are not on the corner of the plate, and it's quite easy to see with this video. And Hernandez didn't just make these three bad calls. There's also four equally bad calls from a Ranger pitcher that he called the same way. So seven total horrific calls. He gets paid to do better.
@TheKgilley if you have to go frame by frame to see where it crossed the plate, and it is still arguable, then it is close enough to not criticize the call.
Lol the funny thing is Wyatt keeps moving towards the plate so he can hit it. But the pitcher keeps throwing the pitch further away from the plate and somehow keeps getting the strike call. Bro is so exhausted he doesn't even have the energy to argue with the idiot.
Watching the Gator ballgame and the announcer mentioned Wyatt Langford got the "full Angel Hernandez treatment yesterday". His partner was reluctant to comment further. I had never heard of this, so my search led me here. All I can say is WTF???
Wyatt is a class act, and Ranger fans got a helluva player but....WTF??
Thanks for posting this.
In the challenge version of ABS being used in AAA right now, a team does not lose a challenge if they get it correct. If MLB adopts the same rules, Angel's games are all going to be five hours long because there are going to be 50 challenges per team every game 😆
There needs to be the angel Hernandez rule added that when a home plate umpire gets 5 calls overturned on them they switch out another ump for them after the 5th.
If anything, the camera angle makes it look closer to being a strike than it actually was. Just absolutely nuts.
Ron Darling actually complemented Angel’s ball/strike calls during a Mets game earlier this year, but it looks like he’s back to his old ways again.
Angel has something on the MLB, 100%.
He closes his eyes when the ball is thrown. Jomboy has a video of it.
That’s crazy
@@AntonelliBaseball He did maybe only the one time but it would explain a lot.
I know it’s crazy, but if you closed your eyes and waited until you heard the ball pop in the catcher’s glove, and then looked where the glove is…that would seem to explain it. 😂
Time for an objective, full-game analysis of pitch location vs call on that umpire. Is there any pattern to the wrong calls? Does it favor one team over another? Does it target certain players? Does the league care?
Or, is there truly nothing to it, and maybe it’s just Internet hype? Is he truly, objectively doing a bad job? Maybe he has cataracts. It reminds me of when detective Frank Drebin of the movie Naked Gun was playing umpire. 😂
I just think with balls and strikes, there needs to be an accurate, automated system that brings uniformity to every game in every ballpark, especially with pitch movement and 90-100+ mph speeds.
Question: What is the official strike zone defined as? Is it a flat rectangle at the front of the plate, or a 3-dimensional box?
Angel blows, but none of that statement is accurate.
@@BobbySacamano Its 100% true I saw the short he closed his eyes. Look it up before you tell me I am not telling the truth.
Exactly what you said is the sentiment of every baseball fan ever
Im in Box lacrosse as a goalie and coach, we have different colored balls and never use a ball the same color as the turf. Do you think it might be easier for the ball or home plate to be different colors?
Angel Hernandez, the race hustler!
Can anyone explain to me how a righthand pitchers pitch which starts to the right and lands in the catchers mitt just left of the plate did not cross the plate. Would like to see the above the plate view.
I can explain it - the laws of physics can be ignored in baseball.. I agree, the "dot" is marked when it hits the catcher's glove - not where it caught the front of the plate. One can argue it was 1" off the plate an ended up 4" outside at the mitt, but if you watch when Matt stops and backs up the video, those look like they caught the corner. I hate to defend Hernandez, but those look like strikes.
While watching this live, I thought to myself “wonder if I’ll be seeing this again on Antonelli’s channel” 😂
He must have looked directly at the eclipse-the whole time.
😂
Yeah the one on March 7th,1970 when he was 8 that passed over Florida where he grew up since hes always been blind.
The last one was almost in the left handers batter box
Unions at work people.
It's where the ball crosses the plate, not where the ball ends up in the catcher's mitt. For that reason these 3 pitches look like strikes. A camera looking down on the plate would certainly help.
Welcome to unions
Correct, but on the other hand, the Players Union cannot protect an incompetent player. When a player does a mediocre job, he is sent down or even waived. The Umpires Union has been getting away with this stuff for the longest time. I can't wait for the robo ump.
he has to average a 94% on the compute analysis of strike zone. It doesn't benefit him to blow calls, or reward pitcher. Was it a "getaway day"? I think MLB afraid of Angel because of the discrimination lawsuit (he lost, but appealed), and the umpire's union still has to back him.
It's not where the catcher's glove is when it's caught, it's where is crosses the plate. I feel like you should know that if you've got 'Baseball' in your name.
It's clearly over the plate every time, entering right over the center and exiting on the outside corner, continuing to break even further once it's behind the plate which is what you're focused on for some reason.
Nice pitches.
Angel wanted to go home early. He just needed 29 more outs as fast as he could get them.
These may be really bad calls, but as others have said, its where the ball is when it crosses the front of Home Plate, NOT where the catcher receives it, even though any college/pro player will tell you that most umps calls are based in large part where the catcher receives it. These balls are still breaking sharply from when it reaches front of Home Plate to another 3+ feet into the catchers glove. Based on where catcher receives it, they are obviously Balls, but where did it cross Home Plate is the only pertinent question, and they may have nicked the front of the plate, therefore strike.
The computerized frames do not show where the catcher catches the ball but where it crosses the plate.
@@lindayates7032not accurate, watch the video, the “dot” is planted exactly where catcher receives it, but where catcher receives it is irrelevant, it’s where the ball is when it crosses the front plane of home plate, not where it ends up 3 feet later in the catchers glove.
I agree with some others, its not where it ends up its where the ball crosses the plate. Considering the amount of break its reasonable to think this ball crossed the plate. Overhead view would prove this. Also, the art of baseball is in the umpires decision. If hes calling breaking pitches outside then, well, you gotta swing and hopefully hes being consistent tiwh the other team.
It looks like the marker denotes where the ball is caught, which is obviously outside the strike box. However, catchers set up about 2-3 feet behind the plate, so a breaking ball can cross the plate but wind up outside. We need an overhead view of the pitches to determine their location prior to being caught
The box is aligned with the plate. Why people are trying to make excuses for the worst ump in baseball is beyond me. Contrarianism, I suppose.
Watch your own slo-mo Matt - the statcast "ball" graphic appears exactly at the catcher's mitt, not where the pitch actually crosses the front of the plate. Those pitches moved away from the batter. At least the first pitch which is what I'm commenting on. I'm a proponent of automated pitch calling but I want the stat cast box customized for every hitter's height AND it must register the call at the front edge of the plate where bat contact is actually made. The broadcast should also place the "ball" graphic where it crosses the front of the plate, not at the catcher's mitt.
I know this is a long shot. But, after some bs call, I would love to see a manager pull his team off the field and refuse to play until Angel leaves.
You’re absolutely correct…it is a long shot!
Unfortunately that would probably end in the team having to forfeit the game, which in this case would be unnecessary. It would take a real old school/ hot-headed manager (ie- Lasorda, Hurdle, etc) to do that and even at this point I think they would let it go. Total long shot but I also agree- it would be an absolute riot to watch a team protest Angel Hernandez live.
@@wiildn It would almost certainly cost them the game. And, it'd probably cost the manager a suspension too. That's why I think it's a long shot.
Everyone on hear crying, understand this the ball only has to cross a portion of the plate, put where the catcher catches the ball out of your mind because it doesn’t matter at all. The blue is watching if the ball catches any of the white and if its knees to belt high. And from the angle of the video I would have called them strikes as well. I know the box is unofficial but if it was you can see the ball pass through the box.
He is likely THE MOST consistent ump in the history of baseball.
It’s incredible they can’t get rid of this guy. With all of the statistics tracking umpire performance, it’s not a difficult case to make for getting rid of him.
And then he has a really good game for Mets vs Dodgers. I was shocked
Do pitchers also get the inside of the plate with him or is his alignment of the box off? I’d also say pitch 5 was also high compared to most umpires strike zone.
When technology can make a game better, use it. Strikes no longer need to be called by a human being.
Can't really tell if the ball crosses the plate before it gets to the catcher.
Is that box at the front of the plate?
Yes, and it doesn't.
Yea I pitched from little league to highschool and at age 13 I played travel baseball for coaches that played pro or college. But as a pitcher if the umpire is going to give me a call that's off the plate then you keep throwing it there when the umpire is going to give you that call. As a catcher they are taught to frame pitches to make it look better than it really is and this catcher does a good job in framing these pitches. But it's where the ball crosses the plate and not where the catcher catches it but if this pitcher is around the plate. Well that pitcher is going to get the call 9 times out of 10 but if these pitches are sliders. Well then sliders are meant to sweep across the plate in which it looks like to me that's what these pitches did
just asking....is the strike zone a box or a cube...is it a strike if it goes through the cube or is a ball strike determined where the ball finishes
It’s the cube!
If any part of the ball goes through the cube (actually it is a pentagon, don’t forget the point at the back) at ANY point, it is a strike. I have seen baseballs start behind the batter and drop in at the waist on the point behind the plate and be caught at the batter’s knees off the plate and it is a strike.
It is called a “back door curveball” and they are incredibly difficult to throw but almost impossible to hit.
As a former pitcher, those calls looked fine to me! 😂😂😂
Dumb question but where does the strike zone from the pitcher and catcher start and end? I know it's a box, but is it only as thick as home plate?
yes so did the ball go through the cube..and is he making the right callmaybe..his slider did travel through the cube
Is there a way for managers to petition for his suspension? or at least a warning that could lead to a suspension if flagrant errors continue?
I want to see the first two pitches that he DID call as balls. Did they hit the mascot or something?
Reminds me of Leslie Nielson as the Umpire in The Naked Gun...😅
Stros fan here. Me and a Rangers fan were laughing at Angel's expense on how bad he was.
Catcher figured out a bug in Angel's operating system - every pitch, no matter where it's received, will be called a strike if you frame it in that specific location in the top corner of the zone. It could be rolled along the ground, you just need to pick it up and frame it up there and he'll call it.
Back when the Braves/Maddox where in their heyday this was the norm
Maddox got away with pitching murder
Yes he did.
Lol, don't be jealous of Maddux (The Goat). If you're going to cry come over and water my lawn.
@@user-bu7ko2or8e GOAT 🤣only people crying were brave fans who won only one WS with a loaded team for 15 years. Maddox had a sub .500 pitching record in the playoffs
He was consistent for both teams. This is how Greg Maddux’ MLB career lasted more than 4 starts.
It’s not where the catcher catches it because he is in back of the plate, it’s where the ball crosses the plate! And it crossed for a strike!
The last one was right over the plate in the Reds v White Sox game
Even the Astros radio broadcast was laughing at how bad Angel Hernandez’s strikes were in this AB. Saying, “that wasn’t even close”, “generous strike.”
The only explanation I can give is that Angel is set up on the inside corner, and is thus blind as a bat on the outside corner, but Jesus Christ, those aren't even close. I think the batter just doesn't argue, because he's a rookie and it's a blowout. If this is a vet or a close game, I think he, or the manager lets Angel have it.
I was watching that game yesterday and wondered why the batter didn't go nuts. Angel is affecting the outcome of games - he should be fired.
I was livid. I had France under 4.5 K's for a sizeable wager. He had 3 here with two outs. He's over 90 pitches and already given up 8 runs. First, I couldn't believe that he hadn't been pulled, but he still needed to K the next two batters and I assume would never have survived a walk in this situation. After this HORRIBLE strikeout, he k's the next batter and I lose.
He’s like that guy from the show “What We Do In The Shadows”. Straight up Energy Vampire. Demoralizing professional athletes since ever.
hernandez rating was only 78 percent right for that game. they grade the umps on balls and strikes but do nothing when they are bad. hernandez knew it was 8-1 and langford is a rookie so no one would argue. the fans dislike hernandez the other umps love him.
The angle is what I was thinking about. I thought maybe the ball was sliding across the plate from side to side and ending up outside past the plate. Does that make any sense?
if you slow the video down you see just that, all three cross the plate in the zone
No, it still doesn’t add up. The automated strike zone box accounts for that. Those were three atrocious calls. Period.
@@gregoryedwards8004 An Astros fan would say that. You are one of those that says "My mind (?) is made up don't confuse me with the facts".
I’m not saying Angel was right by any means. I’ve seen him make a lot of crappy calls. But when you watch the curve from right to left it seems like it could crossing the plate from side to side. Especially when the ball curves as much as it did. The best view of any pitch as far as inside and outside are concerned would be from above the plate in my opinion. I
They used to show replays of pitches from above. Do they still do it?
@@ronnie_fryman I don’t think it is close to crossing the plate. The box is a good point of reference as it is aligned with the plate. “Looking like” it catches the plate is an optical illusion. Even a pitch with that much overall break doesn’t break six inches from plate to glove. It was off the plate. Clearly.
That's old school umpiring. Umps used to mess with rookies for no other reason than they could.
Angel Hernandez doing his best impression of Leslie Nielsen in Naked Gun. Just call everything a strike...
The ball goes through the strike zone!
That last one was damn near over the left handed batters box line.
It isn’t where the catcher catches the ball but where the ball crosses the plate. A couple of those are close enough to catch the edge to be called a strike!
Yes I know. I believe baseball savant shows where it cross the plate
Angel Hernandez has submitted a request to MLB to print the rule book in braille
You have home town calls, and you have home blown calls! Okay, town and blown don’t rhyme, but there is no reason nor rhyme to why this guy is still a MLB umpire!
It's not where the catcher catches the ball, it's where the ball crosses the plate. Last pitch was definitely a ball, but the first 2 were close.
I have no stake in this so just observing: isn’t the catcher catching the ball a ft behind the back of the plate, and 2-3 ft behind the front of it? Where was the ball over the plate? Any camera angles from above?
I know people always say “as long as an umpire is consistent. F that. A strike is a strike, and a ball is a ball. I understand it’s really difficult.
Maybe A. Hernandez was one of the original programmers of RBI baseball. That would explain why a ball in the middle of the outfield wall was a dinger.
cause it appeared it went through the stike zone but ended up outside the zone but it did go through the strike zone. hernandez did make some bad calls on the bases though
There are likely strikes...the location spotter seems off as they look like where they crossed the plate they were in the zone. Each moves a fair bit across the zone and the spotter puts them right where they are caught, not where they went over the plate.
I'm convinced that if the pitcher just drops the ball on the mound Angel would call it a strike.
More understandable if it's 9th inning blow out but it's the 4th inning up 7 runs. I'd say the game is still open at that point
I've seen T-ball umpires call better than this. I don't watch MLB , I'm more of a high school/College guy but I don't understand why his employer doesn't do performance reviews and you can easily correct this
I know you said it's 8 to 1 but it's only the 4th inning. A lot of time to play.
Angel loves him some Astros. Always looking out for them (in addition to just being bad as a general rule).
It’s not only Angel Hernandez. I Watch multiple games a day and it seems like the majority of the home plate umpires strike zones are getting worse. They know there’s no accountability
Craziness. I always think maybe I’m just a hitter and that’s why I’m always upset
There is accountability. Baseball grades the umps, and there are online resources that keep a record of performance. Hernandez is as terrible as everyone thinks.
@@redsoxu571 Then why is Hernandez still employed. If someone building an airplane did the same quality job as him, it would crash immediately.
Yeah. The shid is out of hand and imo it’s been out of hand for years. The MLB needs to make changes ASAP. No excuse with all the technology available that the most basic element of the game is called so erroneously.
@@ItsAllAboutGuitarcalled a strong union… part of the deal. I’d love to see them fire them all again, start scratch, use challenges … damn sure umpiring will change quickly
2:13 A ball traveling through the strike zone, across the pitcher’s body, would leave a path in the shape of an oval not a circle.
That 1st pitch may have just clipped the front ofnthe strike box, but not the other 2
i agree so this hernandez probably made the right call
Two years ago my wife and I were unfortunate enough to attend a game between Cleveland and Seattle, in Cleveland, with Angel behind the plate. He did what he did. None of the Cleveland players changed their demeanor. Tito clearly had told them to just write the game off in their heads and get on to the next. Seattle won, because that is what Angel wanted. But he couldn't stop people from yelling at him from the stands. And people told him exactly what he was. There is no reason why he should be allowed in MLB. He is just dirt.
Hernandez is daring someone to go after him. He is probably saying, "Yeah, I know I'm shitty...but I don't give. F**k. Do something about it."
What does he have on Manfered?
A strong union!
That last pitch hits Langford if he’s left handed. That called 3rd strike is in the next zip code
Why is he still in organizational sports. To cover up the vast majority of other bad umps?
Or he's being paid
Not something that's happended this year, this is angel every year. He is the game in his mind. Needed b fired years ago, and here we are, another year, of his outrageous calls. No percussion's, from mlb. It's sickening why mlb trots this guy out every year.
I coach kids baseball ages 14 to 18 and I always tell them never let the umpire decide for you but then again we don't have angel behind our plate ridiculous