Jeep Wrangler Rubicon JL: Will it Rally?
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- Will It Rally? This new web series from The Team O'Neil Rally School asks the only car question that really matters: Will it Rally? Ride along as we test the limits of different vehicles on our skidpad and slalom areas, before putting them against the stopwatch on a mountainous rally stage here at Team O'Neil.
In this episode, we're driving a 2018 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon on a beautiful winter day at Team O'Neil HQ in Dalton New Hampshire. While the Rubicon is a popular choice for overlanding and off roading, how will the Jeep JL stack up to some rallycross and rally driving? Sit back, relax, and enjoy the epic quest to find out.. Will it Rally?
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"Dont be a chicken dont be a chicken, 3rd gear. Nope, back down to 2nd" this is the only vehicle wyatt looked scared driving.
11:05 had me dying! The micro expression of fear was priceless.
@@viperstd I got the same vibe when he ran the SUV...but he didn't verbalize it as much in that video.
The split second of terror here and there were great
Shannon Lenz they’re quite heavy for their size, top heavy and narrow, small ish wheel
base, with decent and short gears. Oh also don’t forget live axels all around
The only real saving graces are the tires and locker. Otherwise it’s ALL meant for off-roading under 10-15 mph which seriously compromises any sort of fast rally handling
Most sedans of the same size are about 3500 lb compared to the probably 4500-5000 of the jeep. And don’t forget the electronic nannies which fuck everything up when you really want to get sideways and do it controlled (which they thankfully disabled)
I bet this thing was TERRIFYINGLY unstable and wanted to wander EVERYWHERE
I shudder at the bump steer and axel misalignment alone. due to the stock setup and shit trackbars on these things stock
Summer tires, I would say it's like driving on ice if he wasn't literally driving on ice.
One idea that came to my mind: could you put a forward facing camera to the roof or the bumper, so we could get a feeling of what's actually happening while you drive around? Just put the video in a corner, so it won't take much space from the regular content.
I second this
Yup, could do a Picture-in-Picture of the outside view in a corner of the screen?
The more different camera views, the better
Probably wouldn't hurt to use half the screen for each.
Can also be uploaded a separate video. Just the driving with no cuts, maybe split the screen into 4 quadrants to show p.o.v. from different cameras
Will it rally? Yes. Should you ever consider it for that purpose. No.
That sums it up perfectly!
why? looks like you mad for no reason
Wyatt, you are usually so composed and make driving this stage look easy. This time you looked scared. Fun.
I really think it's the solid front axle, they handle awful.
Wow, he looked scared driving this car fast lol
Piotr Sulej Hahahaha I thought that
Well who wouldn't be? This isn't at all what a jeep was meant for
this guy has a very greate skill!
It takes some balls to drive a wrangler past 108 mph, i know from experience
Dont be chicken dont be chicken 3rd gear......*shifts to third*
Nooo back down to 2nd *shifts back to 2nd*
Hahahah this is the best will it rally yet. I am in tears 🤣😂😂🤣😂😂
I look forward to an episode when you guys test a fully built (maybe even WRC) rally car, and ask: will it rally? 😀
they kind of already did that with the WRX (not fully build but with proper rally tires I believe: th-cam.com/video/iPDOn3MF4OQ/w-d-xo.html
This is the best series’s on TH-cam, thank you Wyatt.
Thanks Jonathan!
Can't wait to see more every-day cars! Do a few more RWD and FWD cars! Mustang, Civic, RX7/8, Metro, Festiva!
They've mentioned in the past that they're limited to vehicles in their stable but will use private vehicles submitted by their owners. The vehicles will have to have the usual basic safety equipment like seat belts, tires with usable tread, no salvage titles with structural damage, etc. Do you know anyone with one of the vehicles you've mentioned that would be able to drive it out to Team O'Neill for a day of filming?
Nah I'm in SoCal, no one I know would make that drive
Jared Bennett rx7 vs civic would be cool
The list of dash lights after killing nanny mode was awesome! That's the "These are my people, I need to hit subscribe" moment right there!
This one was particularly entertaining with all the pretty terrified faces, loved it
That oversteer tho
This looks like so much fun
Sweet! Thanks for running the jeep platform! Great video and good points about power to weight and just weight in general of what some would misleadingly think is a “light” vehicle- especially how once it starts turning it takes more effort to change direction
This is the best Wrangler video i've seen. And your skills is awesome!
Thank you for braving the Wrangler on course! Great explanation on why a solid front axle vehicle isn't great for this kind of driving. I get a lot of questions from locals asking about running their older solid axle pickup trucks are rallycross.
The solid front axel point was very informative, thank you
Badass drift jeep. That inside view really shows off the speed and dang. Whipping
Awesome driving! That was fun to watch.
This was really great. Especially in the beginning when they disable stability control, etc
I have a '17 Rubicon and it surely is not fast, nope, never. But with 8" of snow on unplowed streets it is very fun and predicable to slide around corners sideways. Sparks so much joy in my heart.
This is best what possible to do with Jeep Wrangler. Greate rally! Greate skill! U deserve more views!
You sir have balls of steel haha. Always excited to see what you guys do. I hope some day to attend your driving school!
This is possibly the best video I have seen in a while. Love it! New Subscriber.
I love all you explantions, i learn a lot with your Channel. Big Hug from Azores-Portugal ;)
I like this tests very much. Really interesting.
This is such an awesome series! 😁👍 Its so fun to see you sliding around in those vehicles. I hope it snows soon 😫
Such a great series. Keep it up!
That was fun!
Will it Rally? Absolutely not. .... wellllllllll, unless you're Wyatt, then absolutely.
Lol first vehicle where you weren't completely relaxed while sliding around but you still did it. Bad ass.
"with any luck ,now we will have no stability control or antilock brakes"
I love that you aren't shy about disabling computer nannies. It's a really good way to develop skill, and doing it on the road...well that's a personal choice.
Finally! The wait is over.
The Bronco is going to do this out of the box with no warnings 🤩😎
love the GMM inspired video! couldn't help but hear the voices of Rhett and Link when you said "Will it rally??"
Great channel! Always good info 👍
Thanks Chase! This one was a lot of fun.
Most entertaining one yet!!
You can disable both stability and traction control by holding the traction control button for 5 seconds (aka "full off"). Although it will automatically go to "partial off" if you take the vehicle over a threshold speed (which isn't specified in the manual). If the vehicle has off-road+ button this will disable threshold speed, but off-road+ is only available in 4WD Hi and Lo. Off-road+ mode work differently for 4WD Hi and 4WD Lo.
shes no rally car in finland but still an awesome vehicle.. i own one.. love it!!!
U have greate skills!
I'd love to see these laps uncut in a forward facing cam with a foot cam overlaid in the corner with Wyatt's voiceover. The production of this series, and your channel's video content overall, is fantastic, but I would watch the hell of a 3 minute narrated lap.
You guys are getting good snow out there.
Now....put the fuses back in and do it again....that looks like a blast...
Really enjoy these videos. Poor conditions met with pushing limits in a new vehicle always make for harsh realities. Jeeps are the Pumpkin Spice of Astro Vans in winter rally.
Great video! How about testing an AEV equipped Hemi JK Wrangler.
Would love to see a tacoma on the winter course too, I remember my extended cab 6ft bed being AMAZING in a skid in the winter, here's hoping you'll get the opportunity.
I'd like to see the new Ford Bronco when it comes out. Or maybe a 2019 ranger now.
I second the 2019 Ranger! I saw some drifting in an older video on this channel and ever since I've been hoping to see one on "Will it Rally?"
I wanna see the old bronco and ranger
No it's not a WRX with studded tires... but it's still capable and definitely one of the coolest looking vehicles flying through the woods with some speed. Good driving, especially this big of a vehicle.
Excellent!
That Jeep looks like a pig, but so graceful through the snow! Wyatt's commentary on the lap is great as always, but he was not having an easy time..."3rd gear....nope, back down to 2nd", lol! Loving this series! :D
Would love to see you spank some more cheap econoboxes around the stage too...maybe the cheapest car in North America, i.e. the Mitsubishi Mirage...? Would be interesting to see what the cheapest new car you can get would do!
Also, as an owner of one, a 2009 Hyundai Accent hatch wouldn't go amiss :P
Kody Dagley A base model Volvo S60 would be kinda cool too. I have an R model but those base models can be found for under $3k everywhere
@@curgunner That would be interesting to see, yes!
Looks like the scariest "lap" yet.
I'd love to see you do a first gen Tundra. I have an 06 sitting on Duratracs and it's pretty sweet in the winter.
Lóving the series, please do a current gen 3 cylinder Mirage!
Oh snap! You're next door in NH, might have to visit you
cool I love the series!
please do more of these
I love this channel!
It was great to meet you guys at Barrett Jackson in CT this past summer! How about a winter beater.... Kia Soul...will it rally?
cool thx for the vid
The best things to do with Jeep Wranglers is to wire a kill switch that disconnects the gyro sensors which then disables the ABS and the traction control or to pay for something like a taser JL which allows you to lock the diffs and turn off stability control completely whenever you want.
RCV makes a CVT front axle shaft thatll eliminate that chopping and binding when the wheel is cut in 4wd
I'm curious how bad something has to be to NOT rally.
Jonathon Barberio
I really want to see something completely ridiculous like an rv or box truck!
@@deereman8237 "We overshot every apex and rolled it at the hairpin but I think we answered the question, will it rally? YES!!!
Jonathon Barberio
Lmao! 😂
its all in the tires and how brave the driver is, given that its not completely broken, lol
On a JK you could shut off traction control by pressing and holding the ESC button for something like 6 seconds in 4hi. The dash should then flash “ESC Off”. Maybe works the same on the JL?
I'm really curious how this should go in the summer on gravel. I'm guessing a 4runner would have been better
Rallying my 2001 Grand Cherokee is actually pretty sick. Feels sooooo good.
@@Trebelhornc Awesome! Yeah, kinda makes sense that an older model might handle better- more control for the driver
Enoch Martin I’m sure it would really good
should be with independent front
4runners have independent front suspension meaning its better for stuff like rally but the Jeep is better for articulation and extreme offroad situations.
I rented these so want to have a blast in a new Rubicon, go rent one at southern Utah adventure Center and pull the fuses, take it to the sand dunes close by. 200 buck for all day. Be sorta careful they will break. And make sure to put the fuse back. Also if you break anything expect to pay for it. Includes ruining a tire or scuffing the wheels
On a 2014 Toyota tundra, does anyone know if pulling the stability control will also mess up the traction control? Traction control can be nice while off road but stability control not so much
I really enjoyed the Dodge Charger video. I would like to see a Crown Victoria Police Interceptor on here. Seriously underpowered for the weight but would make for some good video. Make sure the limited slip diff is still good lol.
Ah yes, the one we've been waiting for.
@Team O’Neill Rally School, for one of your future videos, would you try to rally an 2009-2016 Audi A4/S4 B8 chassis? This is the last American manual transmission Audi. The electric hand brake and sport diff have me curious of your thoughts.
2:34 I’d like to see you try the 2 door at some point. It’s a bit faster with the weight savings and turning off road in it would be interesting to see since its radius is so small.
I don't know how you did it.. those wranglers (although those new ones are slightly better) are scary when it's dry and 70 degrees out.
id love love to see an evo run to see the time diff vs the wrx
You should try the 2 door I want to see how different it handles
i drive like this every day i can.. had no idea people can do it for a living, where do i sign up!
Can we see will it rally on early 2000 Suzuki GV or even XL7?
So ABS, traction control and stability control… is there a point? My 95 Subaru doesn’t have them but it does have 50/50 awd. Are these electronic stability programs useful? Is it just for repair costs or is it helpful. Maybe it’s helpful if a vehicle isn’t awd.
Please do a p2 volvo R style AWD model. Would love to see that or an XC70 model try a rally.
I would like to see how a Ford ranger would do. been thinking about building one with ttb front suspension for rallycross. loving these videos.
William Cooper they build them for pre runners all the time
I bet itd do pretty well if not for the weight
I’d definitely 4 link with a wats link in the rear and keep it at stock height or of lifted no more than 2” and DEFINITELY long arm the front with modified twisted arms so the camber change and bump steer isn’t nearly as terrible
Not much you can really do about the scrubbing tho
A late model ranger with A arms up front would be much more suited
Not even getting into fragility concerns and driveline bind with TTB
:source: used to own an 87 4x4 RCSB 5 speed
Looks like scary fun.
It does I’ve tried 😁 cool vid
Y'all should rally a smaller crossover, a V6 RAV4 would be so interesting to see
You should do an FJ cruiser just for comparison sake
That one's got independent front end
Love your videos. Please upload in 60fps.
I know this series is for street cars, but I think it would actually be hilarious to see an ultra4 truck doing this. Especially one of the stock class/4600 trucks.
ultra 4 cherokee would be cool to see put through its paces
He! What about a volkswagen touareg tdi ? Will it rally? By the way your channel is awsome , i learn a lot and the will it rally series ... men ... i lovin’ it
Keep up the good work
Thanks Bill!
Will it rally Chevy k5blazer or any blazer except the new one
looked like fun to me....
Can confirm, my jku will rally!
9:57 that was badass
My first vehicle was a yj, it was a under powered piece of crap but I loved it!
I want to see more cars that are either regular or unorthodox ones like a bus or something
I think this is the most wide eyed I’ve seen him drive
can you guys do a will it rally on a 2007 toyota rav4 2.0 liter? i want to see how it fairs haha
Traction control system is two staged in 4H but you'll still have ABS. I'm not sure how well threshold breaking works off road for ABS circumvention.
Any chance of seeing an XJ Cherokee running this course?
Kind of a stretch but would love to see how the new Suzuki Jimny would do here.
My chief complaint with my fake jeep is the suspension is way too soft. Maybe tighten the rebound and compression way up, but that option is not available unless you go for fox.
You should rally a kei car if possible. That would be interesting.
please do a late 90s 4runner!
5:10 this is my favorite part of this video😂
When you will bring the Toyota Tacoma On this winter weather