"Will it Rally" is the kind of series which makes me drop what I'm doing the minute the notification comes up. I'll bet it wouldn't be too tough to find a panther platform car to rip down the hill.
Sooo cheap to buy one for this show too! It might be too slow tho. I think the hemi charger would eat it for breakfast unfortunately. Don't get me wrong I have a soft spot for the panther platform.
Vloggers' review: "it has traction control, entertainment center, nice interior design.." Wyatt's review: "it has blah blah this, blah blah that, now let's turn off everything and slide on our track."
enticed2zeitgeist yeah this guy is a talent, experienced drive who knows the corse very well. I think he could make anything look easy to drive on that coarse.
Hey Wyatt, Toyota dealer service employee reporting in. The frame recall on 05-10 Tacomas is no longer active as of March 31st, 2019. The rule for the recall is if it had a hole larger than the size of a quarter then we’d replace it. If not, it gets and undercoating and that’s it. It could take weeks or months to get a frame so you’d be stuck in a rental Corolla forever. If other pieces were too rusty to save we’d claim them on the warranty too. Then we’d cut the old frame up and scrap it. Tundras were affected as well. But they just get the beds removed, rust sanded off and coated again. The rust belt is tough on all cars.
Hey Alex! We've got one Tacoma in for a new frame now and an employee has a Tacoma getting a new frame shortly (just failed the test and the frame is on order). Maybe the rules are different this far north?
@@Teamoneilrally I know this is late but it’s worth putting it out there. The frame recall he says correctly covered 05 to 10 Tacomas with a frame made by Dana Corp, an American parts supplier. Dana failed to adequately rust proof the frames. My dads 08 was affected by this as well when 2 3/4 holes were found in the rear area of the frame. Toyota paid for a dodge ram pickup as a rental vehicle while they took 2.5 weeks to fix his ( his AC was also broken which needed repairs as well. ). He sold it to me after the frame and the only things I had to replace were the brakes and the rear bumper. I drove it for 4 years before I sold it on for 8500 bucks and bought a 2022
This is the first time I'm seeing a manual Tacoma of this generation. I used to think the only models that had manual transmission options were the HiLux.
They're pretty nice too. I've had a g35 for years and that gear box is so nice. Got a wrx as a daily and hated it because the gearbox was so clunky. Picked one of these up and it has a much more similar feel to the g35, it's so much nicer to drive than the Subaru.
I have the same truck, right down to the new frame. It has 108k on the clock. I love it and plan on keeping it for ever. 4 years later and I still love my 2010 with just over 130k I still plan to drive it for ever.
@Broken Patriot nah sport cheaper and after market lockers are far better. The sport and off road both do very well off road, I crawl control manually lol and immediately mod my trucks
As a guy who drive a Tacoma and will take it on some back dirt roads to see what it can do, I can say that he did amazing. Tacomas have this weird thing where you can be planted on the throttle and the back won't kick out. You did amazing though.
Team O'Neil Rally School awesommmee. One car I would absolutely love to see is probably one of the most iconic vehicle series... one of the Panther Platform Vehicles (Lincoln Town Car, Grand Marquis, Crown Victoria) but personally I’d love to see a grand marquis and maybe a Cop Victoria to compete with the challenger!
I got a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 TRX4 on BFG K02, Fox 2.0 rear reservoirs, Fox 2.5 front reservoirs and I like to drive it in the desert like a rally car. Too. Much. Fun!!!
I would love to see what you think of the "auto LSD" function in 2wd. In 09+ they got rid of the clutch pack LSD in the TRD Sport and gave a traction control setting that does not limit power but reduces one tire fire by using the brakes.
I got an 08 with the V6 auto, crew cab longbed 4x4. I love that truck. Mine has the tow package and i use it quite regularly to tow a trailer. Somehow mine passed the frame recall. I live in the rust belt so I always make sure it is undercoated.
Awesome driving! This is super cool. Looking at it from the outside, I would have thought that the suspension was giving you the bounce. Really interesting to hear that it's from the tires. Makes sense, but I just wouldn't have thought of that. Great stuff keep em coming! Rally a smart car haha!
robert espinoza That’s what Wyatt was saying in the video. If I was understanding correctly, I think he was saying the suspension setup was sort of reversed from what it should be normally. Typically I think people would want (for rally) more dense tires with a softer suspension. I could definitely be wrong though because I don’t know what I’m talking about haha.
Tires are definitely initiating the bounce but compression and rebound on suspension are way too soft ....... That suspension is set up for comfortable every day drive.....
Give a shot on the 1999 Honda Accord Coupe. I used to drive that car a lot to school and back, and I had a lot of fun ripping through grass fields and small dirt/gravel paths with that thing.
I had an early 1st Gen and the thing was like a go kart, you could hard break and rotate left lane to left lane U-turns. Downside was that it was squirrely when the road was wet.
Got a little biege Colo similar to the Taco that I used to race at night on 15 miles of dirt. Top stretch was 85 into a nice gradual right. Real nice area. Now I play PS4 that way, lol
Not surprised these trucks do well. They always seem to be a popular choice with people who need to use their trucks for alot of different things around here
Yeah those Michelin’s are a very comfort oriented tire. Super thin sidewalls that are not very stiff at all. Definitely not the tire I would run on anything off road biased.
jesus, seeing sth the size and mass of a freighter swinging round gracefully is nice, wonder, though, if you could get a like a semi or a tractor to do it too. . .
as someone who has whipped a 2wd two door none access cab 09 tacoma at about 90 on some old red dirt roads. I can promise you its an incredible rally vehicle. Althought the floor parking break was kinda of hard to work with Lmao
Throw some kings on it camburg uppers, Toyo AT2, bumpstops that thing will fly. Keep it the same height. Intake and exhaust I guess as well. Would be a sweet setup
Really good video. No way I could get my truck to do that, but awesome that you can. Makes me wish even more that I had specified a manual when I bought the thing...
It's funny I didn't see this before. I'm actually building a rally pickup right now, with plans to run it early summer of 2021, there's a decent history of mini pickups in US rally, so it will be a blast if nothing else.
Wyatt, very cool to see, I have the same Tacoma w/ 6speed. So the real reason the rear Tacoma suspension is so jarring, bouncy and loses composure is because the stock rear shackle hangers are VERY flimsy, like the leaf spring is bolted to another spring. I could hear the suspension jarring in your voice throughout the video. I make the popular Archive Garage Hammer hangers that make a noticeable improvement in ride quality and chassis composure. I bet the same truck with same tires, with the addition Hammer hangers would run 5 seconds lower on that loop. I'd donate a set to prove it. -Eric
Thanks for getting in touch, these look awesome! Smart solution, and they look really well made. Let me check with the powers that be here and I'll get back to you!
still think you need to do a current generation AWD GM cargo van. You did the old astro/safari, do its newer cousin in an express or savana. Hell, the most recent AWD express/savana could be optioned out with up to 350hp out of the 6.2l v8.
Man, I'd love to take my TRD Sport 6spd around that course...or have you guys teach me how to, rather. It has a factory LSD, so I'd like to see how that compares against the open diff in the TRD Offroad tested here.
Hey, I thought you're not supposed to pendulum turn a high center of gravity vehicle! that's what I they told me in the 5 day course. Nice video! I love the camera view looking at the pedals. Keep it coming!
"Will it Rally" is the kind of series which makes me drop what I'm doing the minute the notification comes up. I'll bet it wouldn't be too tough to find a panther platform car to rip down the hill.
Sooo cheap to buy one for this show too! It might be too slow tho. I think the hemi charger would eat it for breakfast unfortunately. Don't get me wrong I have a soft spot for the panther platform.
such a cool idea
Do it-!?!...!
Vloggers' review: "it has traction control, entertainment center, nice interior design.."
Wyatt's review: "it has blah blah this, blah blah that, now let's turn off everything and slide on our track."
Just shows how all those gadgets are completely unnecessary if you know how to drive ....
This video makes me miss my 07 Taco, RIP girl, you ate that guard rail like a champ
RIP and F in the chat
Digitalbarrito Rest In Peace, how did it happen if you don’t mind me asking
Hopefully you grabbed another Taco
Digitalbarrito monched the rail
F for respect
Will it Rally? Depends on who's driving it seems.
enticed2zeitgeist yeah this guy is a talent, experienced drive who knows the corse very well. I think he could make anything look easy to drive on that coarse.
Yes. This guy is consistent so he can feel the difference between the vehicles. Me, I just try to keep it on the road lol.
Yes and he could rally a cardboard box
Still want to see something that won't rally
Any slammed car lol
idk try a Honda fit? they just might be too low, and their wheels to small to really get around with any speed
@Matthew Krier thats awesome. i thought the wheels were too small, but its a cool car
Corvette. Too low, too stiff, nonadjustable transverse leaf spring at both ends.
Chevy Sonic? Old-school automatic longbed truck? Saturn L-series wagon?
Hey Wyatt, Toyota dealer service employee reporting in.
The frame recall on 05-10 Tacomas is no longer active as of March 31st, 2019. The rule for the recall is if it had a hole larger than the size of a quarter then we’d replace it. If not, it gets and undercoating and that’s it. It could take weeks or months to get a frame so you’d be stuck in a rental Corolla forever. If other pieces were too rusty to save we’d claim them on the warranty too. Then we’d cut the old frame up and scrap it.
Tundras were affected as well. But they just get the beds removed, rust sanded off and coated again. The rust belt is tough on all cars.
Hey Alex! We've got one Tacoma in for a new frame now and an employee has a Tacoma getting a new frame shortly (just failed the test and the frame is on order). Maybe the rules are different this far north?
@@Teamoneilrally I know this is late but it’s worth putting it out there. The frame recall he says correctly covered 05 to 10 Tacomas with a frame made by Dana Corp, an American parts supplier. Dana failed to adequately rust proof the frames. My dads 08 was affected by this as well when 2 3/4 holes were found in the rear area of the frame. Toyota paid for a dodge ram pickup as a rental vehicle while they took 2.5 weeks to fix his ( his AC was also broken which needed repairs as well. ). He sold it to me after the frame and the only things I had to replace were the brakes and the rear bumper. I drove it for 4 years before I sold it on for 8500 bucks and bought a 2022
It would be neat to see what kind of laptime a BRZ would pull
luke durkee yes please
Hell yea ild love to see what my car can do. I know for a fact they can fit some large offroad tires im getting 215/65 r17s so
This
Spin almost once drifting and scraping
You really whipped this thing around the course, very impressive
Legit didn't know they still put manuals in these. Nooooice.
This is the first time I'm seeing a manual Tacoma of this generation. I used to think the only models that had manual transmission options were the HiLux.
They're pretty nice too. I've had a g35 for years and that gear box is so nice. Got a wrx as a daily and hated it because the gearbox was so clunky. Picked one of these up and it has a much more similar feel to the g35, it's so much nicer to drive than the Subaru.
with the current generation the only models that come with manual are the sport and offroad
It’s pretty awesome! You can walk into a Toyota dealership today and buy a $50,000 Tacoma with a manual transmission.
@@nathanschroeder4846 50k is a bit much, a standard offroad is only about 37k, still pricey though, but definitely worth the money
I want to see a smart car rally
I paused a movie to watch this. Keep going with this series!
I love the commentary, this is the kind of thing that has me on TH-cam instead of Netflix or mainstream tv
reminds me of my first rally car - '92 GMC Sierra 1500 4.3L V6 2wd on BALD all-season tires
Fuck yeah lmao I love these trucks
I had the same truck, loved the torque with the manual transmission it was fun to drive. I got top dollar for trade in.
Hopefully you got another Taco 🤨
I have the same truck, right down to the new frame. It has 108k on the clock. I love it and plan on keeping it for ever.
4 years later and I still love my 2010 with just over 130k I still plan to drive it for ever.
Love hearing the 4.0 rev up. One of the better toyota engines ever made
Yes! I just bought a TRD Sport. Thanks! You should do something strange. Like a limo 😂
Yes a limo!
@National Trolliosis Foundation And a hearse would be pretty cool too!
I’ve got a 2016 TRD O-R and i love it
@Broken Patriot nah sport cheaper and after market lockers are far better. The sport and off road both do very well off road, I crawl control manually lol and immediately mod my trucks
I was thinking he should try rallying a garden tractor
As a guy who drive a Tacoma and will take it on some back dirt roads to see what it can do, I can say that he did amazing. Tacomas have this weird thing where you can be planted on the throttle and the back won't kick out. You did amazing though.
Locker anytime mod and you can drift it real good
@@TheBroLounge I mean I have limited slip so the back will kick out sometimes but when it doesn’t its just a pain
@@JoePez Shift manually to keep in higher RPMs usually works.
I’ve got a 95 wrangler. I’d love to see how an old Jeep like that would hold up on the rally course. Despite its short wheelbase
I'd like to see that also
It probably wouldn't be safe those roll pretty easy
A lowered 2wd would be fine. A stocky 4x4 would flip
I also have a 95 wrangler but I'm pretty sure my frame would twist itself apart from rust on this course
I think the Cherokee would rally well though
Okay, just found out about this channel and I have a weird obsession watching base/cheap model cars get pushed to the limits...off-road.
Us too! Team O'Neil was founded on "How to drive a stock vehicle as fast as possible on dirt roads without crashing or breaking down"
Team O'Neil Rally School awesommmee. One car I would absolutely love to see is probably one of the most iconic vehicle series... one of the Panther Platform Vehicles (Lincoln Town Car, Grand Marquis, Crown Victoria) but personally I’d love to see a grand marquis and maybe a Cop Victoria to compete with the challenger!
Love this series- no opinions or cheesy jokes.. just crap cars with good drivers, always the most entertaining formula
I want to see more with the Tacoma. Keep em coming!
Should do a will it rally on a first gen awd Honda CR-V
I got a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 TRX4 on BFG K02, Fox 2.0 rear reservoirs, Fox 2.5 front reservoirs and I like to drive it in the desert like a rally car. Too. Much. Fun!!!
Can you guys try this with a 3rd gen 4runner? I think it would be interesting to see how it stacks up.
I wanna see this as well
I would love to see what you think of the "auto LSD" function in 2wd. In 09+ they got rid of the clutch pack LSD in the TRD Sport and gave a traction control setting that does not limit power but reduces one tire fire by using the brakes.
It’s always worse than an actual LSD
We always changed out the taco OEM tires to stiffer sidewall..then w bilstein was ok...nice video. Thanks
Will It Rally: Honda Oddesey V6 VTEC
I got an 08 with the V6 auto, crew cab longbed 4x4. I love that truck. Mine has the tow package and i use it quite regularly to tow a trailer. Somehow mine passed the frame recall. I live in the rust belt so I always make sure it is undercoated.
I really like these will it rally episodes, just a sim racer here but they're awesome.
Those are not the stock tires for a TRD Off Road. They should be BFG ATs. Those are HTs or a straight highway tire.
Around my area this trim level got the horrible BFG Rugged Trails. The TRD Sport got the even more horrible Dunflop highway tires.
you whipped this thing, props
Please do a Honda Ridgeline, I think it’ll out perform any midsize in rally
That was awesome! I have one of these as well, with a manual too. They are total riot off road on trails like that.
Soo soo cool! What a fun series of videos. Seeing that Tacoma sideways made me smile
Song at the end is "Hidden Seed by Divine Attraction" if anybody wanted to know.
Is that an immaculate conception pun...
SICK!!! I love beasting my 4runner around! I need to come to Team O'Neil for some laps!!
Sir William Goes do you have full time awd or 2wd option? i've got an '04 and i was thinking about pushing its limits after watching this :)))
@@dogwalk3 I have 4wd not full time
I'd love to see what an actual pro rally car would do and how it would compare.
It would smoke this Tacoma as shown, most likely.
It has a electronic rear locker only in Low-range (EYE Roll) @3:53 Hilarious!
8:48 he's got his front tires in the air for at least 7 frames, "pfft tires off the ground" love it haha
Yes, yes it will
From experience
Awesome driving! This is super cool. Looking at it from the outside, I would have thought that the suspension was giving you the bounce. Really interesting to hear that it's from the tires. Makes sense, but I just wouldn't have thought of that. Great stuff keep em coming! Rally a smart car haha!
Sam Hardesty is it really the tirres making it that bouncy
robert espinoza That’s what Wyatt was saying in the video. If I was understanding correctly, I think he was saying the suspension setup was sort of reversed from what it should be normally. Typically I think people would want (for rally) more dense tires with a softer suspension. I could definitely be wrong though because I don’t know what I’m talking about haha.
Tires are definitely initiating the bounce but compression and rebound on suspension are way too soft .......
That suspension is set up for comfortable every day drive.....
From my experience these Tacomas (and 1st gen Tundras) have rather soft suspension that makes the truck overly floaty.
Give a shot on the 1999 Honda Accord Coupe. I used to drive that car a lot to school and back, and I had a lot of fun ripping through grass fields and small dirt/gravel paths with that thing.
Dude if all your content is like this, I'm going to be binge watching you for the next week! SUBBED!!!!
I had an early 1st Gen and the thing was like a go kart, you could hard break and rotate left lane to left lane U-turns. Downside was that it was squirrely when the road was wet.
If you get one to use, try using Frontier.
I own a 2015 sport TRD nice truck first thing I did was get rid of those balloon tires. Got some nice A/T s an rally began!
Got a little biege Colo similar to the Taco that I used to race at night on 15 miles of dirt. Top stretch was 85 into a nice gradual right. Real nice area. Now I play PS4 that way, lol
You can modify it to have the all time rear locker... Just a fun option!
Not surprised these trucks do well. They always seem to be a popular choice with people who need to use their trucks for alot of different things around here
Yeah those Michelin’s are a very comfort oriented tire. Super thin sidewalls that are not very stiff at all. Definitely not the tire I would run on anything off road biased.
My tacoma is identical but its the access cab, It gets sideways very well!!!
Next you guys should do a 4th gen 4Runner. I’d like to see how it does
Brayden ching this!
In Pakistan, we rally it in deserts. Especially in Cholistan desert rally races.
This was badass!
jesus, seeing sth the size and mass of a freighter swinging round gracefully is nice, wonder, though, if you could get a like a semi or a tractor to do it too. . .
this thing must be so fun to do stuff in, especially that shot at 8:26, all bouncy and stuff
Can you guys do a Jeep Wrangler will it rally video. It should be interesting
th-cam.com/video/Uvg4q0ZSecc/w-d-xo.html
as someone who has whipped a 2wd two door none access cab 09 tacoma at about 90 on some old red dirt roads. I can promise you its an incredible rally vehicle. Althought the floor parking break was kinda of hard to work with Lmao
Throw some kings on it camburg uppers, Toyo AT2, bumpstops that thing will fly. Keep it the same height. Intake and exhaust I guess as well. Would be a sweet setup
Speed and Power.
Love these Will it Rally videos
Wonder if that 6 speed has the throw out bearing chirp?
American made trucks like the Toyota Tacoma/Tundra, Honda Ridgeline, Ford F-150, and Nissan Titan/Frontier are awesome 💪🇺🇸
First gen Rav4s also rally surprisingly well.
more impressed by the footwork than the vehicles.
Love your video's man, could you do a mitsubishi 3000gt vr4 ,I always wondered if this car could rally because it has a 4x4 turbo set-up.
good video. try Tacoma 2019
This is amazing, how did i not know this existed
Welcome!
Awesome! Would love to see a first gen Subaru Crosstrek on this segment!
Another awesome episode!
Keep it coming!
I’d like to see a lap time of the Subaru in the dry gravel please Wyatt... 🙏🏻
When will you do a First gen?
Would love to see an early gen Miata. Great budget track cars and would be interested if it's a good base for rally too.
Especially one with one of the PACO Motorsports lift kits (either the 3” or the full offroadster kit which is like a 10” lift)
Yeah, it would definitely have to be a first or second generation Miata, they were pretty much the same car with the same chassis
Flying miata did the Targa Talley in a V8 NA, videos around here somewhere...
Just when I thought used brocoma prices couldn't get any higher... this video comes out
Yeah, it sucks having the best selling truck on the market with the highest resale value... *sarcasm*.
This new format is so awesome, love it.
you guys are really helpful and I love your channel
This looks awesome! Going watch all of these video
Would like to see a 3rd gen tacoma video, but i dont know if enough has changed in that gen to justify it
I love this series! Kind of want to see a vw all track
Really good video.
No way I could get my truck to do that, but awesome that you can. Makes me wish even more that I had specified a manual when I bought the thing...
It's funny I didn't see this before. I'm actually building a rally pickup right now, with plans to run it early summer of 2021, there's a decent history of mini pickups in US rally, so it will be a blast if nothing else.
Y'all need to try a 2nd generation Acura TL. Surprisingly good in rallycross.
DO IT.
Great video! Glad to see the track numbers! 👍
Love the outtakes. 🤣 the videos look so natural in the end but I’m sure it’s a struggle sometimes to produce. So again thank you for making these.
I'm Glad that I found this channel and section will it rally?
Wyatt, very cool to see, I have the same Tacoma w/ 6speed. So the real reason the rear Tacoma suspension is so jarring, bouncy and loses composure is because the stock rear shackle hangers are VERY flimsy, like the leaf spring is bolted to another spring. I could hear the suspension jarring in your voice throughout the video. I make the popular Archive Garage Hammer hangers that make a noticeable improvement in ride quality and chassis composure. I bet the same truck with same tires, with the addition Hammer hangers would run 5 seconds lower on that loop. I'd donate a set to prove it. -Eric
Thanks for getting in touch, these look awesome! Smart solution, and they look really well made. Let me check with the powers that be here and I'll get back to you!
still think you need to do a current generation AWD GM cargo van. You did the old astro/safari, do its newer cousin in an express or savana. Hell, the most recent AWD express/savana could be optioned out with up to 350hp out of the 6.2l v8.
If we can find one, we'll do it!
Man, I'd love to take my TRD Sport 6spd around that course...or have you guys teach me how to, rather. It has a factory LSD, so I'd like to see how that compares against the open diff in the TRD Offroad tested here.
Do a crown vic please
Wow! Too much fun!!
Impressive driving. I’d love to go to rally school.
Smashed that like button before i even started the video
Can you please do a Subaru Forster ! Taller then the Impreza but still has AWD ! Be a interesting video
and a Subaru Baja
Hey, I thought you're not supposed to pendulum turn a high center of gravity vehicle! that's what I they told me in the 5 day course. Nice video! I love the camera view looking at the pedals. Keep it coming!
You should do will it rally with a like 2010 Dodge Charger with the 3.5L V6
Grey wire mod and lock the rear diff when ever you want
Awesome video man, nice to see what my truck can do, keep up the vidoes and I'll keep watching!!! 👍👊
we really need to see some cars that have done the winter time also do a summer time for comparison purposes.
2011 TRD Sport Access Cab...just received notice from Toyota that my frame "might" also qualify for another round of frame recalls...
Try the Tacoma 2019
Camaleonix take one for a test drive right
Only difference is the engine, transmission and some body panels.
@@nickkaraoke2128 Yeah, but the new engine rips up high. If you punch it at 3500 rpm on an on-ramp it pulls surprisingly hard up to redline.
@@nickkaraoke2128 lol
Yup 3rd gens feel shitty 3k Rpm and below