SWTOR: All scenes with Bastila Shan [KotOR reference]
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Come on! Satele looks more like Bastila than Bastila here...
I agree
just close your eyes and remember KOTOR 1 works every time
She was a Padawan at the time of kotor one and she’s a master by the time of the recording so it’s probably Been over a decade
Weren't they all made in the character creator?
And she looks 0.00% like what she looked like in KOTOR 1 and 2.
Age is a cruel cruel mistress...
Mitchell Alexander So are shitty Art Styles
There is a difference between aging a character and making a completely new one.
I don't think you notice but bastille is suppose to be somewhat older that what she was in kotor 1 and 2, of course she looks different...
daniel shaw She is not older. She is fat and looks Anglo rather than Slavic/Nodric.
You know, you'd think that during the SOR storyline, some one would remember that they have a holocron with Bastila in it and think ''Hey, maybe she can talk some sense into her genocidal husband!''
No, apparently, that would be a little too fucking smart for the devs to include in the game so they decided, instead, you need to kick his arse to the curb just so the fucking maniac would pay attention to the player's lectures...
...*Sigh*
She can talk some sense into the desperate cash grabbing scrooges at Bioware
***** yeah they did fuck up on that really Bastila's spirit should've come to help us find Revan but instead they made it out that revan and the exile were lovers that still pisses me off big time
kotormaster1975 Wait, what!? It's been a while since I've done that FP, but does Revan eally talk of the exile in that way? I always thought he was just saying she was a close friend, or like family.
either that or they based it cause bastila didn't know he was a prisoner but she never went looking for revan that's why the message in kotor 2 says be his beacon back to us if you can't find me go to the republic I believe bastila was off on missions when t3 came bak with news all she knew was a rough describtion of this great evil that revan went in search of because of the bond they shared she says " he thinks he is protecting me but I his past" or something like that
Seeing Bastila's Hologram makes me sad.......KOTOR nostalgia is strong in the air.
Randy Gutierrez agreed
I didnt even realize that it was Bastila was in the noeticon, but in my defense it had been a while since i played KOTOR when I started my Consular character
@@kale3144 how would you know? SHE DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THE BASTILA WE FELL IN LOVE WITH IN KOTOR
@@xrstevenson How old is Bastila when we first meat her? Because this is definitely an older version of Bastila that we see here
@@kale3144 she is 18 at the start of Kotor, probably turns 19 during the later stages of the Kotor game since it takes place over the course of a month or two
Hey lets take this random ass character model and hire the same voice actor and call her Bastilla
lol
Bastilla’s voice actor was already voicing like 3 other characters including Satele Shan so she probably did this on her coffee break 😂
That Guy Over There wow... that sounds wrong... working in your coffee break...
Are you an idiot?
@@thatguyoverthere468 I had no idea. Her voice is so much softer in Kotor. Would have never guessed Satele was voiced by her.
Bastila's taste in hair has declined dramatically.
Yep
That's it? No mention by her of Revan, no mention she ALREADY knows the Rakata werent extinct? Lazy writing.
I'm actually surprised Revan wasn't part of the Holocron of Secrets, I mean he was a Jedi who turned away from the dark side!
They probably never got the chance, he went after the emperor
mini2239 true
No he went after the emperor since the events of kotor 2
as Revan is already dead at this point in time, that will sadly not happen.
No he dies much later in shadow of revan,
Seriously... Their lack of respect was so great they didn't create bastilla like she was previously, they used that shitty character editor and made her look like every other person in the game... They betray the fans with everything they have in this game
11thmaster YOU WERE BETRAYED!
11thmaster While I partially agree with you, keep in mind that this was 170-210 years after Knights Of The Old Republic 2.
+JesseJorgo 139 300 years :P
pfffft whateves
+11thmaster They did get the original voice actor.
Bastila Shan... I so missed her.
Me too
Yes
The original babe. Still is, even after becoming a mother.
@@BrotherTree1the one and firstly
I can't fucking believe they changed bastilas look that pisses me off
Hey Bioware, here's an idea. Retcon the entire SWTOR story and release KotOR III with a proper sendoff for Revan, Bastila and the Exile.
Vladimir Kool-Aid IDK, but would you want to see Revan break down in tears after someone shows him a hologram of his dead wife?
@@harryg9203
Quite simple. Continue as the Exile(as was Obsidian's plan). Search for Revan with your party members, fight the True Sith(who were actually the first Sith Ever, not Palpatine 2.0, according to Chris Avellone) and make a war where you have to join the Galaxy to fight it(which was how KOTOR 3 was supposed to be, but Bioware decided to use that for ME). And have different endings depending on your choices(also, control Revan during some part of the game, preferably the finale)
Juan Laise I like Chris ideas more then biowares version
Juan Laise
Chris Avellone: "So Kotor III was gonna be a little bit different. So basically, I think I've said this before, but the player would be following Revan's path into the Unknown Regions, and he goes very, very deep into the Unknown Regions and finds the outskirts of the real Sith Empire." "And that's a pretty terrifying place. The intention was that it would be structured on a basic level like KotOR 1 and KotOR 2, but what would happen is you'd have a collection of hubs, but every hub you went to had an additional circuit of hubs, that you could choose which ones you optionally wanted to do to complete that hub, or you could do them all. "But ultimately there was just a lot more game area in KotOR 3, just because the Sith Empire was just so fucking big. But yeah, so, on some level it was a similar structure, but it was intended to... so one of our designers, Matt MacLean, had this idea for Alpha Protocol mission structure, where what would happen is, you'd sort of go to a hub, but it wasn't really a hub.
"It was like a big mission you had to do as an espionage agent, but then there were like six surrounding missions, that central mission, and you didn't have to do any of them, but by doing some of those, you would cause a reaction in the main target mission that could even make your job worse or easier. "Or you could choose to try and do all of them, and he let each of them like cater to like, a speech skill, or stealth mission, or shoot 'em up mission, and that would cause different reactivity. And I always liked that, because I felt like you were being given a larger objective, but you were getting a lot more freedom in how to accomplish it and how to set the stage, so it was easier for your character. And that's kind of the mission structure I would have liked to have bring to KotOR 3, because I thought it was much more intelligent design." "Part of the fun with designing [Kotor III's] Sith Lords was if you have these incredibly powerful Force users and they have their whole hidden domain out in the distant reaches of the galaxy, what would that Sith empire really look like at the hands of these things?
"If they could shape entire planets or galaxies or nebulas, and they had all these slave races at their disposal, how cool would that be, to go into the heart of darkness and you're the lone Jedi and/or new version of the Sith confronting these guys? What would that be like? I thought that would be pretty epic."
The third game would have then put you in the role of "the Exile," and had you track what Revan was up to. Eventually, it would lead to the reveal of ancient Sith Lords out on the edges of the galaxy, biding their time. Avellone also said KOTOR 3 would have had you back in the Ebon Hawk, and surrounded by some familiar characters like T3-M4 and HK-47. The studio even had plans to dismantle HK-47 and have him ride on your back, a la Chewie and C-3PO in The Empire Strikes Back, leading to a sequence in which the droid would fire at enemies behind you. Exile would be the PC and Revan would be an NPC. HK-47 and T3-M4 would be your starting companions. Game would be set in Unknown Regions in the territory of the True Sith. True Sith were meant to appear incomprehensibly vicious and menacing. Plot would revolve around finding Revan and a way to defeat True Sith. True Sith were not merely a sect of Sith but were actually the original Sith Lords. What a shame. Wish I had the money and connections to make it happen. Obsidian's Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 3 would have featured the culmination of Revan's journey, which included standing face-to-face with ancient Sith Lords of unimaginable power. Knights of the Old Republic is one of the most popular Star Wars video game franchises of all-time, a statement that only becomes confusing once fans realize it has gone ignored for over a decade at this point with little indication there will ever be a return to the series. According to ex-Obsidian writer Chris Avellone, the studio was prepared with a fleshed-out Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 3 pitch that never ended up going anywhere. Luckily for fans, Avellone remembers most of what the pitch entailed, and shared it in an interview with VG24/7. According to Avellone, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2 contained foreshadowing for what Darth Revan was doing adjacent to that game's story, and would set up the larger plan of a confrontation against never-before-seen enemies: The ancient Sith would have backstories that players could explore and uncover, giving fans greater insight into what these entities meant to the greater Star Wars universe Obsidian's Chris Avellone says that "it felt like we were pitching and pitching and it just wasn't going anywhere, and at some point people just drew a line and said 'it's just not going to happen.'" I had never considered the KOTOR games to be part of a potential trilogy but Avellone confirmed that the plan was to have "The Exile" from KOTOR II potentially meeting Revan from KOTOR I and finding "the true Sith Lords."
But enough of all that, what of HK-47, one of the best supporting characters in an RPG ever? "At one point HK-47, its legs dismantled, would "ride around in your backpack," Chris explains "like C-3PO does with Chewbacca in Empire Strikes Back." “The third game involved you, as a player character, following where Revan went and then taking the battle to the really ancient Sith lords who are far more terrifying than the Darths that show up. These guys would just be monsters. These would have a level of power that was considerable, but at the same time you’d be able to dig more into their psychologies, and their personalities, their history, and even how they dealt with the player, how they talk with the player, the different powers they cultivated and developed, and for some of them like - they’re the ancients, so they’re not just ruling a solar system, [but] swathes of the galaxy.
“So the places you travel to [you’d see] how they left their stamp on that world, or that solar system, or whatever collection of moons. You’d see how horrible that was. Part of that environment would tell a story about that. [That] would be a great, epic way to end the trilogy.
Junaki Begum so does Meetra die in the end
Bioware fucking destroyed their own masterpiece with this game. Sure, make an mmo, BUT KEEP KOTOR OUT OF IT. Shameless cashgrab using an older IP.
+Nicholas Clark (lutz93) Just so you guys don't ruthlessly bash on BioWare as a whole or even the division not responsible for this. Unlike 2k, BioWare doesn't distinguish which teams make their games unless asked for specification or mentioned elsewhere. This was done by BioWare Austin and Edmonton. The original and Mass Effect Series have been worked on by Montreal or as most put it, the Candian ones, eh.
KOTOR was hardly in it or even referenced, a small cameo from Bastilla isn’t the end of the world
Kotor 2 was made by obsidian, Kotor 1 was in fact made by Bioware.
couldn't they make bastila's hair as it should be? seriously?
Verteidiger99 Because this is mature Bastila, not the teenage Bastila of the first game.
Silverfoxxee yeah that may be true but really she was arragent from time to time but she was fairly mature but I do get verteidger's point they should have done that
I doubt Bastila was a teenager in KOTOR. She looked, acted and sounded like a 20-30 year old.
+Rhymfre no max age she was 23 but looked and acted like a21-22 year old
I doubt you keep the same hairstyle for like 30 years.
They should’ve made something relating to:
Revan, the Exile, and Bastila. Something, *anything.*
there are two body types in this game: scrawny and super buff The Rock. Wtf
TheLine I even termed the buff Chiss here "Blue Hulks".
More like gears of war characters
Like many, I'm an early fan of the Kotor on xbox-PC, especially the 1. The story of Revan, his relationship with Bastila, his endearing friends, the story very well put together, etc. But then the MMO The Old Republic is a betrayal against. Instead of giving Revan a nice ending, we pull the rope, and EA finds a bogus excuse to find it 300 years later. And go it back, die, but not totally, then again because it was "split in two".
Frankly, the best thing for Revan would have been to kill the Emperor with the exile, and then return to the galaxy. Revan would have ended his life with Bastila and their child (ren), the exile would have been reintegrated into the Jedi order, and all the old ones (Jolee Bindo, Vao Mission, Carth, etc.), all those surviving friends, would have ended in the joy of being together to celebrate the victory of the Light, the Life!
Unfortunately, just as Disney has messed up the end of episode VI by sabotaging the Han / Leia wedding, sabotaging the future of Jedi Luke, and the story itself (yes Anakin must restore balance in the Force and now we find ourselves with new sith and a "pseudo-empire" in episode VII, basically Anakin was useless), so EA sabotaged the end of the Kotor and messed up the happy ending Revan would have had with Bastila, the end of the exile etc ... to lay us, in addition to a pitiful story of a Revan quoted above, the story of an emperor who never dies ... and so Here again, like Anakin, Revan was useless, since the other ball on the dark side changes body as shirt. All this for a question of money, as always. Disney wants money and we sabotage the Star Wars saga of George Lucas.
EA wants money with his MMO and ransacked the saga of Revan. In the end, it's sad to say, but it would have been better to stop everything after Kotor 1, simply. Or at the worst finish the trilogy Kotor with a third game so, on PC and console, like the first two, where we would order Revan and the exile in the wilds, killing the emperor, and returning to the end in the galaxy towards theirs. There we would have an end worthy of a Lucas, worthy of Star Wars.
I agree on the money grabbing part on EA. But please, a happy end for Revan? Thats just not who he was. The whole reason for him falling to the dark side is him wanting to be active and not observe like the rest of the old jedi council. He would have died in a fight somewhere either way, not at home with Bastila. Him finally finding true peace in death, embracing all his pain and darkness was actually a nice touch. The best thing that could have happend to him though would have been for him to die off screen against Valkorion and us only hearing about it to hype up the strenght of the emperor.
Furthermore I have to disagree with your perception of the Star Wars unviverse as a whole. As much as it is about hope it is about an eternal struggle. Peace, much like in the real world, is only temporary. Because the force does only seem to balance itself out after something bad happens. Obi Wan states that "balance" means "the destruction of all Sith" i.e. the evil part of the force. Yet after the balance the kinds of Desann, Tavion and Kylo Ren emerge. Only after that happens the force keeps balancing itself by empowering a lightside equivalent. There does not seem to be a state in which the force is eternaly in balance.
For you to not see that is a little weird because that is what Kotor 2 was all about. Kreia, after seeing both the light and the dark, realized that all living beeings are bound by the force without real free will. Her plan, as flawed as it might have been, was to sever all life from the force itself and make them truly free. A state in which the "happy ending" you want, might have been possible.
I disagree. Palpatine WAS THE IMBALANCE in the force, because he refused death rather than accept it, and he clouded the light side with vast dark side powers. Palpatine was destroyed by his own arrogance when Vader/Anakin turned on him, and even that was a close call. There is no equal good and evil. That's lame storytelling. Anakin Skywalker killing Palpatine fulfilled the saying of balance, because Palpatine was the source of the corruption all along.
Revan did not fully accept or fully redeem in KOTOR, he didn't make the full penance for his ways. He was going to die somehow, he was going to be the tragedy like Anakin Skywalker was in the original six films. The Darkside is a lack of discipline and imbalance by its own nature. The lightside is balance and discipline.
Amen.
Jsut say we love Bastila and Revan. Jsut forget what EA and DISNEY DONE
Jérémy swtor isn't canon in my book
This looks,sounds and feels quite awful. For this they canceled the creation of Kotor 3 ?! It must be the creators of this game that are suffering from some unknown disease,possibly a brain disease. I hope they made a lot of money for selling themselves and betraying us all.
exactly my feels bro
EA just wants money. Subscribers to an mmo give more money than someone who buys a game once. Sadly it was at the cost of kotor. The graphics are to cartoony, hk-47 lost his humor. The story line is worse because of the acting wasn't epic and the style of mmos restrict the story from being at the high level of mkotor. I don't hate swotor I just think it would be better if it wasn't a sequal to kotor 2, or at least didn't have reaven and the exile in it.
Calm down
Idc what people say, this isn't canon. Revans story deserved so much more than what Swtor did to it.
I have headcanon, Revan and Meetra returns to there friends and love ones.
@@RyanTheDark Nobody gives a fuck about your headcanons or not. You denial is completly irrevelant.
@@RyanTheDark Nah. Revan wins the duel against Vitiate by sacrificing himself and destroying Vitiate's physical form as well as his own and imprisoning Vitiate's spirit there. The Exile returns to known space with the news and Lord Scourge becomes the New Emperor intending to bring the Empire to peace
Ricardo Vosbein but fails and the scourge was killed and ruled by another Sith master idk maybe use the same character model from when you kill or beat vitiate in the Jedi knight story but not have him be vitiate maybe a powerful Sith Lord who lord in the son of vitiate being to Cary on the legacy of the immortal emperor and then just continue the generations until the Jedi knight kill the decanted of vitiate and the empire go in chaos or something their that's it and also just reference KOTOR series like they already did how bout that
@@muppet9284 Nah nah, Revan kills the emperor, then Meetra takes the spirit in her body and since's she's the liveing embodiment of the force dying, it would kill the spirit.
Why did they change the way Bastila looks?
***** Fair enough thanks for the reply :)
*****
Can you tell me where I could read this books for free? I am interested in reading about what happened to bastila and the child after Revan left them.
maybe she cut her hair
Nvm
Irony ...Satele totaly looks like Bastila ..and Bastila looks like..Kira ? :D I dont know ! but this isnt BASTILA !
Oh no! They put more design effort into a character that was integral to the main story rather than a legacy character who appears for a few minutes in two scenes of one class' story! How dare they!
I don't think Bastila ever became a master, she and Revan left the order because the council didn't approve of their marriage.
She probably returned to the Order after the Jedi Exile's Pupils formed a new Council.
such a bullshit, the true bastilla is on kotor 1 and 2
This is not the true Bastilla, it's just Noeticon trying to emulate Bastilla. They can get any image as an avatar.
Revan, HK-47, Bastila... SWTOR is full of "How to use all KOTOR characters in a bad way"
Bastila Shan and Rosalind Lutece have the same voice actress, Jennifer Hale.
+Joshua and Jennifer Hale also voices Satele Shan and Naomi Hunter from the Metal gear Solid games
James Scarborough I didn't know about MSG, but she is the voice of Female Commander Shepard.
+Joshua Don't forget Jennifer Mui in the Mercenaries franchise (may it rest in peace alongside our dead savior Pandemic)
doodsalot270 Oh yes, I also forgot that. Pandemic is gone? That sucks.
this upsets me because I relate Hale with female Shepard of ME and I FUCKING HATE THAT VOICE you have no idea. Makes me angry just thinking about it. But she sounds awesome as Bastila, I was better off not knowing that was Hale...
They changed her hair
Her face
BUT EA MADE HER FAT?
I'm done
+Captain Daxius To be fair, this is a much older Bastila, see how she is a master unlike Kotor. Plus, when you get old you get fat. No one has the same hairsyle for all of his life.
+TheMasterFixer68 Will Smith ?
warren byrne I have been enlightened by the grace of Wll Smith´s hair. Dismiss my previous comment.
TheMasterFixer68 that's fine... 😊
+Sairo ohhh, the years have been good.
Where was this holocron when Revan went bats**t insane?
EnderHeart5911 lehoon (star forge system)in the temple of the ancients
Looks nothing like Bastilla , I understand she supposed to be older in this but can they at least use some of her likeness from Kotor? Nope because apparently EA doesn't give that much of a fuck to satisfy Kotor fans
DarkLord928 the only thing EA cares about is money they don't care if the chars look like how they did in the other games or not I just surprised the servers still work look what they did to mass effect 3 and afew other games screwed up as hell
Knights Of The Old Republic 3 - The True Sith, made by Rock Star and and BioWare, using the Unreal 3 Engine.
Coming to stores only in my dreams!
Yeah Dark empire EA and infinite disney empire is the biggest threat that we sw fans ever faced in history since a anakin and padme romance in movies.
She looks nothing like Bastila, yet is just as impatient and arrogant🤣
If you're wondering about Recvan and The Exiles story (Meetra Surik, main character from Kotor 2 aka The Exile) they went to fight the true sith in the uknown regions ( the parts of the galaxy that had not been explored) and teamed up with lord scourge who was a true sith (as in his race was sith) and he betrayed the two knights because he thought that he would get slaughtered. He then stabbed Meetra in tha back causing her to die and Revan to get imprisoned for 300 or so years
That, and the fact that he had a vision that it was not Revan and Meetra who would kill the Emperor, but rather someone else who would come much later (who is later established to be the "Hero of Tython," who you create and play as in this game).
It could have been kinda interesting to have had an interaction with the noeticons while Sateel where there, where there could be small part where she talks with her however many times great grandmother
Oh, I didn't even realise she was Bastilla. Maybe because I was tired of the fucking Consular story as a whole, and killed everyone.
Wtf did they do to Bastila? Bioware sold the beautiful soul of Kotor for this?
Calm down, Bastilla just got a bad haircut when she was added to the noeticon, it ain’t the end of the world
You are worse than Bioware and EA
She looks around her 40s, Kotor she looked around 20s, you think she’d keep the same her cut for 20 years? I also miss the hair cut, but it’d make sense.
@@thatguyoverthere468 it says alot 🙄
They really ought to go back and do a soft retouch for Bastila in these scenes. Use a different hairdo, change her robes to her Kotor style ones, and perhaps switch to body type 4.
Well since Revan went and ditched her to fight the Emperor and they never met again, of course she'd get fat.
Bastila is supposed to be older in that hologram, and yet she has the voice of a 25-30 year old.
Tempest Wing She is much older, Bastila was teen or little more then one in the first game.
Tempest Wing that's the only way we'd recognise it as her otherwise we'd be thinking wtf how can this be bastila if this 1's nowhere near anything like her
+Tempest Wing Jennifer Hale was 39 when she voiced this scene
+Tempest Wing Jennifer Hale was 41 when they had her voice Bastila and Satele in SWTOR. She was 29 when she voiced Bastila in KOTOR.
I doubt Bastila was a teen in KOTOR. She looked, acted and sounded like she was 20-30.
When a program tells another program to be patient... God I hate the hoops you have to jump through when you scale up your lore to encompass centuries.
The couldn’t even give her the signature hair style makes me so pissed
Bastila does not look at all like she does in the past games.
Boomstick tm agreed
Is Bastila Shan Satele Shan's ancestor
Ya
And Bastila and Revan is her great great great etc parents.
As I like to call her, Bastila Chan
Ugh, when you play SWTOR and then KOTOR and KOTOR 2 years later. So many things went over my head...makes me dislike SWTOR a little though.
i don't like this game it's a "money trap" they destroy revan and the 2 kotors story i'd prefered that revan,bastila, and the exile hadn't appeared in this game 'cause they showed them in a forced way and they ignored everything that happened in the kotor games so this game is a peace of junk.
what are you smoking?
nothing you said is true
This is 300 years after those games, if they were in this (ignoring Revan) it would be weird, they’re dead no human can live for 300 years
Not alive by natural means. Pretty sure that Sith Lords go unnatural like Vitiate/Valkorion and also Plagueis say hello. Plus Revan caused so much death and pain that he got what he deserved: 300 years of hell. Something that not even Darth Vader got.
HK-47 Well he was redeemed ,but you're right about the penalty
I have a question. Are the gatekeepers of a holocron purely programs imbued with a Force user's personalities and memories, or is there some part of the Force user's actual spirit imbued within the holocron? I'd love it if Revan actually interacted with Bastila through a holocron, assuming part of her spirit were in that holocron. It'd finally give her some closure about the fate of her husband.
0:45 From the sound of things they're just advanced programs, not any kind of spiritual copy/remnant.
This is a load of barnacles.
this is a load of barnacles Hehehehe....
Seeing all these year old comments about how they miss KOTOR, who’s here after the announcement of the remake?
Lol seeing this comment after two years or more and seems like they might be canceling it.
It was wonderful seeing Bastila again.
Hi Arca Jeth! Hi Nomi! (Tales of the Jedi comics)
Thank you for these! Quality as always!! :D
Everyone's complaining about Bastila, but did no one notice Arca Jeth? He got done the dirtiest.
I REMEMBER WHEN BASTILA WAS YOUNG
Natalia Tena would be perfect to play Bastila Shan in a live action movie.
A plague which forcefully turns a jedi to the dark side?!?! That is one of the axiom points in Star Wars! You can't be forced to turn evil, but rather choose it! I forget how much I dislike this game. Its almost as bad as the night sister story arc in the clone wars.
wrong you can be forced
Actually the whole plot is quite interesting.
Also, it's not making Jedi go Dark, it's actually making Jedi go insane.
Connor Kenway No and yes. Anakin was always head strong and emotional. He killed the whole tribe because of his mother and already succembed a great deal to the dark side. Most people will do whatever it takes to save the ones they love, but not before they fight to find any other way would they resort to using the dark side. Especially when those who follow the dark side rarely love. When such a rare thing does happen, they usually return to the light side. Bastila on the other hand was forced by Darth Malak to follow the dark side, but even troughout her life you see a lot of negative emotions and traits like insecurity,fear,proudness,ambition and such.
The Night Sister story arc was wonderful because of two reasons. It was different, and Mother Talzen.
Yes and no. There are places/objects with strong dark side energy that exert their influence over anyone who comes into contact with them. And we saw that brainwashing was potentially quite effective in both Kotor games. In both instances a "choice" is still usually made, but it's hardly a free and clear decision. Granted such individuals are frequently redeemed, suggesting it's easier to fight the influence of the dark side in such instances as they haven't truly accepted it. Heck, in this case there was an outright cure, which highlights how at their core the individuals themselves aren't truly changed by the plague. Thus I'd say it doesn't contradict the axiom as these instances show how weak and fragile such false turnings are, whereas the third act of Jedi Knight highlights how hard it is to redeem someone who truly chose the dark side.
So the jedi consular meets Bastila?
every time youtube recommends me another SWTOR video that has Revan/Bastila/theExile, I just am that much more insistent that SWTOR should be an AU that doesn't canonize any of its take on previous KOTOR characters...
Never understood why Bastila's hairstyle isn't in the game, slap that into the Cartel Market and it'll sell like crazy.
i was born in the early 90s and it wasnt until the early 2000s that when i realy began to play video games so the earliest game ive heard her voice is in KOTOR
Wait what? Isn't Bastila dead by the time Swtor happens? Don't tell me holocrons are no longer recordings but entities that would be sillys.
+Alundaio They are an ''interactive'' recording, able to respond and develop with knowledge they gain, but are no conscious entities, the real Bastila is dead, just as the real master Vandar is.
A very clear difference is made between force spirits, such as the Exile's spirit, and Revan's also in Shadow of Revan, and the noetikons, such as the representation of Bastila here.
+Artorius but in bastila's page in star wars wikia there's no ''death'', also i didn't understand if revan could survive 300 years why bastila couldn't ?
Underground Revan was being kept safe in stasis by the Emperor in Maelstrom remember? You awake him in the FP Maelstrom Prison. Bastila died of old age I suppose, unless she died somehow and we don´t know.
TheMasterFixer68 i would be very grateful if you'd explain me, i played KOTOR 1 & 2 but never TOR. i'm very curious about revan and bastila
Underground OK this a damn long story. Remember Revan left Bastila at the end of Kotor 1? He left because he needed to find the true sith, which were not Malak and his followers. Then, in the end of Kotor 2, the Exile (player) left to find Revan and eventually found him. However, they chose to ally themselves with Lord Scourge, a true sith lord who was part of the actual sith empire, unknow to the Republic. After some stuff (this part is from a novel) they confronted Vitiate, the Sith Emperor. Vitiate destroyed T3 completely and Scourge betrayed Revan and the Exile. The Exile got killed and Revan imprisoned in Maelstrom prison. The emperor granted Scourge inmortality.
I guess Bastila died of old age at some point. Then TOR starts. At some point, a team of Republic warriors and soldiers broke into Maelstrom and freed Revan, who started to fight for them. However, he tried to take control of the Foundry, a massive force-factory (like a smaller Star Forge) to aid the Republic. A team of sith and operatives supposedly killed Revan in the Foundry, but in reality he had escaped with something like a force-personality disorder due to his exposure to both the dark and light so much. His light side stayed "dead" as a force ghost (obi wan, yoda, anakin) and his mad dark side, still alive disappeared. Later on on the war, Revan re emerged, but not with the Republic or Empire. He established an underworld empire which sought to destroy both Republic and Empire and almost suceded After his forces were defeated at Rishi, he moved to Yavin 4 where he tried to take Revenge on the dormant and weak Sith Emperor´s spirit (Vitiate had been defeated by the jedi to almost death some time before). He was stopped by an alliance of Republic and Empire, but the death of so many caused the emperor to resurrect anyway. Oh and the team that personally defeated him was made up of Lana Benik (a sith lady) Dark council memeber Darth Marr, Satele shan (the grand master of the jedi and Revan´s descendant), Theron Shan (satele´s son) Shae Vzla (mandalorian), and Bowdaar (wookie). He made peace with his light side spirit and finally died, his last worrds warning the warriors that the darkest times lie ahead. But that´s another story. And Revan finally died.
Long fucking story lol. I like writing.
On this note, it reminds me of when the Psijic order BS was afoot at The College of Winterhold.
god, the TSL music at the start is so jarring with TOR footage.
I wonder , since this was made back in late 2013 , if there has been any further Bastila or other classic KotoR references since in the new stuff ? The SoR , KotFE & KotET ? Makes one wonder. :-) TSS
It’s strange.... that’s definitely bastila’s VA but that is NOT bastila!
first 2 minutes and 30 seconds in: TECHNIQUE.
Why does every scene with Bastila in this feel like the opening scene of ant man with Howard Stark and Peggy Carter
So she still alive while her descendent satele Shan is around it’s disappointing that they dint met even revan meeting his wife again and even not meeting satele Shan as his granddaughter and Theron Shan even tho he knows revan is his ancestor
Hayley Atwell would make a good live action bastila.
Forget Bastila, what did they do to Vandar? He looks like a troll
Mrimchaelson
He looks like a troll doll
At least we got Bastila and Master Vandar back
Bastilla looks like a mix of Chloe from uncharted 2 and her normal look
I guess Bastilla hit the wall.
Bastila looks like she's about to take her five kids in her minivan to football practise
Holy CRAP, that's what the graphics look like at ultra-high?!
*gapes*
Master Chamma sounds like Tolfdir from Skyrim.
Omg it's Tolfdir from the College of Winterhold.
They messed up Bastilla Hair and face big time 😂
Fuck this! Give me kotor3!!!
How about Kotor 1.5...
Revan's story should have continued in Kotor 2.
Finding Revan was part of the plan for KOTOR 3. www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-07-31-fear-is-the-path-to-the-dark-side
It would be so great if Chris could finally write that game.
I did't know that was bastila until chamma said here name she looks nothing like bastila not even aging to look like that
lmao Bastila is Ray. wow someone worked hard on TFA script
The voice is the same of bastila...
6:05 YODA
+Oryan just same race
I couldn't finish this game because it was such a disgrace to the franchise
in who's eyes? yours? lol.
a lot of people who played kotor...
abcd i loved both Kotors and I love this game as well, yes, they fucked the story linked to kotor, but it made a lot of things good, for example the sith warrior story was fantastic in my eyes it full field my dream of being a lord sith and not just being a “Dark Jedi” but actually being part of the empire was good. Most of the stories were interesting (except Jedi Knight) the expansions are shit I’ll give you that
It's a shame you let nostalgic fanboyism turn you away from 8 solid, unique storylines and KOTFE/ET.
why does the Jedi to the left has a tattoo that says the letter "H" on his forehead? Is there an answer? His favourite letter is H xD
Bruh this is not OG video game wife?! What have we done!
Errrrr.. why go to the effort of getting the voice actor but make the character model look nothing like the character?
Rip Bastila
BioWare completely forgot about her so they made revan hook up with meetra surik. Oh and Satale? Boring descendent of Bastila. Hey! Guess what happened to Bastila and Revans kid? Fuck all cause no one writ a story about him.
Awesome
Pretty sure when I played KOTOR I mades Bastilla a sith...
Yeah but that's not canon, that's like an alternate thing. In the true story, Revan was light side in Kotor.
Zlegoguy So they're supposed to change story of a character from Star Wars universe just because you picked Dark Side storyline in a videogame? Uh .. ok whatever you say..
Sean Gonzalez
Because he's conflicted. He basically got used by both the Republic and the Empire, and for him to defeat the Emperor, he channeled his dark side energy.
Sean Gonzalez bassicly revan did what he thought was right but also he was conflicted cause the Jedi restrict a lot of things and don't act without assessing the real threat fair enough if I was in revan's spot I would go do what he did but also the sith would've don't the same as the mandalorians but when he was defeated in the foundry the light side of him the wisest part accepted it he knew his time had come but the darker side of him didn't want to accept that his time had come and the only way was to basically become dark but his rep and all that was during kotor 1 and 2 not in this time so he went for the people he knew would follow him see the light side of him knew the emperor couldn't be killed but the rage in his dark half never listened to that so he thought the light side was weak and the darker half wanted to kill the emperor and have the glory after so in a way yes he was a sith lord but he was also the prodical knight as well
+Zlegoguy who doesnt! Dark Bastilla is more fun ^^
I never knew that. Was bastila
Man can every star wars game from now on stop with the jedi master which is the same as yoda's species. It kind of ruins the whole "yoda is part of a rare species" thing.
4 if SWTOR counts; Master Oteg, iirc.
Stfu
This is my bae Bastila right? Looks more like Kira's ancestor..
will this happen still if the mysterius sith destroys the noetikon?
To speak of you´re journey? to them
you should do a full playthrough of kotor
i recognize her more in the games shes been in rather than the few cartoons I was aloud to watch growing up
SWTOR would be great if they change these things.
-Specified that the entity isn't Kreia
-Remove Bastila from the Holocron of all the Jedi
-Make it so Scourge wasn't in the room when Revan was rescued and that Scourge never met Revan after Scourge betrayed Revan and killed the exile.
These next things would never happen but...
-Drop the whole MMO idea.
-make the combat like KOTOR 1 and 2.
Just so you know the only way Scourge would be in the same room when Revan is rescued isn't canon. The flashpoint takes place after chapter 1 of the class story but you get Scourge as a companion at the start of chapter 3.
Must i Say is She dead or alive or you could tell her you spoke with revan and freed him from the emperor
They should have made her a custom face. Or use Satele's face but younger.
Which BioWare studio makes ToR? I hope to god it;s different from the one that's creating Mass Effect: Andromeda.
+tachikoma747 BioWare Austin, with the help of a supplemental team from BioWare Edmonton. And the studio which is making Mass Effect: Andromeda is BioWare Montreal. What made you hope that they weren't being developed by the same studio?
+tachikoma747 BioWare Austin, with the help of a supplemental team from BioWare Edmonton. And the studio which is making Mass Effect: Andromeda is BioWare Montreal. What made you hope that they weren't being developed by the same studio?
+Shadowkey392 Because I do not like what Austin did to the ToR storyline. I was hoping a different BioWare studio would be working on Andromeda.
+tachikoma747 be happy when the canadian studios are working on anything bioware.. the more down south the game is the shitter and more EA influenced it is..KoTOR 1 was all canada, same with mass effect 1 and most of 2.
+rem palm BioWare weren't even part of EA when they made KoTOR 1 and the first Mass Effect.
I have played Kotor 1 and 2 and I still think swtor is awesome.
It actually is a game with 8 awesome story lines, no denying that, but the story would work better if the game would be Kotor 3 and not an MMO.
artur6912 Yep, also if they had to do an MMO they might have made a game that's not wow clone.
I think it would been better if they left out the kotor characters.
is this just on the pc game or is it on all cornals
+bigfriends1 Swtor is PC only
+shammy dammy to bad it will be nice if they did so
+shammy dammy to bad it will be nice if they did so
Well, there are now mmos (Elder Scrolls Online, for example) which are also available on console platforms so maybe one of these days.
But wait...i thought Bastila basicly left the order to live in peace on some other planet with Revan and have a kid, pretty much giving up her Jedi title, why is she then there, old, and a Jedi Master still? (yes ik shes dead) like ok sure, you dont exactly ever stop being a jedi master, but the order would'nt call you for a Master if you abandon your order to go get hitched and knocked up, suppose all the lore that was changed in KOTOR to SWTOR can basicly be summed up by....they dont give a fuuuuuuuck.
+ForemostCrab7 It was explained that, they were not allowed to teach that love can sometimes be positive to a jedi, in return they were given permission to marry, and have children, and both were elevated to the ranks of Jedi Masters. Remember, that the order back then was barely alive, and they needed people like them. They were heroes of the Republic. Although they were shunned a little it was to the extent of Qui Gon Jinn. Same happened to Jolee Bindo and Juhani - they became Masters, but respect for them varied a lot.