It’s partly regional communication style and the fact that the more emotionally involved and engaged in a topic someone is the more they tend to talk over one another. It can simply be a sign of an interesting conversation provided they aren’t trying to abusing shut down the other person from speaking.
If Bill Maher interviewed Bill Maher, it would be two guys each saying 5 or 6 words before the other guy impatiently interrupts because he's convinced whatever he's thinking is way more interesting than what his clone is saying.
IDK which is dumber: that Bill thinks 25 hits of LSD will "kill you" or that Billy thinks 2 cupped hands full of liquid LSD is anywhere NEAR 25 hits (try "in the hundreds" unless it was seriously watered down).
giving him the benefit of the doubt I think Bill was making the argument that taking that quantity of an unknown substance from a guy you just met can definitely kill you. if that was some DOM Nbome or Bromo he would be a dead man. also yeah a cupful of liquid lsd even watered down would be like 25mg at least or 250 hits. definitely, a couple sheets worth which would leave you in a psychedelic trance for days on end and might traumatize you to the point of no return mentally. but physically I think you'd be alright and there are stories of people taking thumbprints or dousing themselves in the liquid and coming back to reality. lucy is a kind substance that will take care of you if given the respect it deserves
Motley Crue was right. Performing on stage in front of a ton of people is the biggest high ever. Afterwards it’s really hard to just “shut off” so you want to keep the party going.
It's because your ENDORPHINS and Dopamine levels are THRU the roof. There is a real chemistry behind it . Also the testosterone levels and youth is on your side.
ikr instead of hearing an interesting macro dose trip story from the mind of a rockstar we get to hear about Bill's experience with poppers and weird sex
@@microplasticsinurblud Bill is the epitome of a malcontent narcissist. He is always butting his stupid asides into things. He thinks this is really in his basement club space. No, this is an interview for those of us watching and we would like to enjoy it. Billy even had to warn him he was stepping on the story. And then he called Billy Corgan a complete idiot basically.
@@AnthonyL0401 lol. there was a second there where Billy was like "Huh? Did he just call me an idiot?" then he let it slide cause it was the polite thing to do and he understood what he was trying to say. I mean we're definitely prone to make bad decisions and do some dumb stuff when we're young but idiot is kinda harsh. It's that same youthful exuberance that can and has created some amazing contributions across the board.
@@Shlogger And the worse part is that Bill Maher presents himself as a rebel and who wants to say whatever is true for himself, yet he has such rigid views especially as he's getting older. Bill is just truly an asshole, tbf.
Meanwhile, Alice Cooper said that he wasn't "partying" like people imagine; he was drinking because it was boring and depressing to be alone in hotel rooms all day while he was waiting for them to set up the venue. There was also an interview with Harrison Ford where he openly admitted that he only really got to see hotel rooms, and traveling wasn't exciting for him. So it isn't a musician/rocker/rapper thing, it's a famous thing in general.
Is every question Bill asks now rhetorical? Or, does he just enjoy hearing himself talk over his guests? Either way, I’m so glad Bill knows more about being a rockstar than rockstars do. Such a unique perspective.
John McEnroe said in his book, "You Cannot Be Serious!" that the roar of the crowd is totally addicting. Also, the attention from the media and hero-worship from the fans. I'm convinced the Stones went from drug addiction to simply switching one addiction for another. Or stopping one and continuing another. All of these ancient rock bands are addicted to the attention and roar of the crowd. I rather doubt U2 needs the money. For cryin' out loud they did their best work 35 years ago!
I was in a band for years from age 18-26. I was wasted 99% of the time, because hanging out with the guys was so much fun and the sitting after feeling after was so low in comparison. I was never big and famous, but we had access too, and some money. Honestly, they were the best times of my life, I lived many through many stories. I still miss the excitement. I’d recommend it, if you can keep control of it enough not to die, that is.
I'm seeing Billy everywhere these days..... I LOVE this man. I know it's Cliche....but his music influenced me greatly when I had several personal tragedies in my late teens. God Bless Him.
@@krusher74oh, you picked up on that one too huh😂. My goodness this Maher guy hasn't just been obnoxious for his fruitcake "thoughts" about these corrupt to the core gobts that's for Damn sure!!
he doesn't know shit. LSD isn't always just liquid. it comes in crystal form as well. 25 hits won't kill you but taking that high dose of an unknown substance definitely can be lethal if it's not actually lsd. lsd 25 is one of the few drugs on the planet where you can overdose to that extent and still walk away without major physical harm. your mind is another story, but he seems alright all these years later. also no surprise he experimented with amyls
One reason why some rock stars started using drugs was to help keep them awake after being on the road for days on end with very little rest. And some to help cope with the pain
It's difficult to sleep on a tour bus even with bunks. I have slept in a sleeper carriage on an overnight train and woke up every time we pulled into a station. Sleeping in a cabin below deck on a ferry or ship is difficult too as it is so suffocating so I went upstairs to deck level lounges to try to sleep.
Yeah, it's far too stigmatized from years of propaganda. Otherwise I believe people would have woken up not only to a number of positives but to the fact that a whole lot of big pharma could be eliminated and expanding the mind to help ensure freedoms and liberties stayed intact for far longer as well!!
I took an Addy and perk one time and started playing the guitar and literally felt like I was playing like Jimi Hendrix and I filmed myself. The next day, yeah I definitely was not Jimi Hendrix lol.
Before I went to college, I'd only smoked weed once or twice and it was low quality small town brick weed. My first week of college I was introduced to really great weed by a guy across the hall. I went back to my dorm room, put on The Doors, and laid down in my bed. For the next two hours I was Jim Morrison. I never even got up out of my bed. I just lay there being Jim Morrison.
I actually played my best off of a 7.5mg percocet. I guess it was just lower inhibitions-- all the tension in my arms went away. I never touched that crap again, man I was knocked out cold after
in 91 I went with friends to SF that just so happened to be over the weekend for the Bill Graham memorial concert(Golden Gate Park). We went and it didnt take 5 minutes for someone walking around with a glass bottle, an eye dropper, and a bag of sugar cubes to offer us a dose. We didnt want to be rude so...anyway I dont know how we got backstage(a friend said it was a roadie for Tracy Chapman of all people), but there were drugs everywhere. All free. Everything, anything. I work in the LA/Hollywood film industry and there are a LOT of drugs(more so a decade+ ago). Ive been to a lot of concerts and gotten backstage(the first 3 Lollapalooza for instance. Parties with famous actors and musicians) but that concert was on a whole never level.
When I was in my band playing in Hollywood, I realized to Billy's first point, that there is a lot of down time, a lot of time to waste that the draw or allure to drugs and alcohol was an easy time waster before you even get into the effects of it all. After that you crave to keep that feeling and it's all over. I was lucky enough to exercise some restraint but the allure was all too easy.
I only drank when I was onstage. It numbed the cigarette smoke sting from eyes and made being onstage tolerable. I quit music years ago and haven't had a drop since.
@@xpicklepie As soon as I got out of music and out of that environment, it was easier for me to not to drink or smoke anymore. Part of the problem was my lack of discipline but the environment did not make things better.
Plus he’s just wrong that all LSD is liquid anyway. It’s crystals that are made into a fine powder. He’s a know-it-all *and* he’s wrong. What a fun combination
Yes, numerous forms - like coke isn't a paste, or a liquid - or a rock etc.. God it's frustrating listening to him continuously interrupt what I wanted to hear - I sure as hell wasn't watching to hear from him..
I guess that another reason they do them is that they're fun -at first -and they help you deal with the profound social disconnect that's a consequence of having very few people that you can relate to your stardom, or even make lasting friendships with -because everyone wants to screw you, physically or metaphorically. Then there's the grinding physical load. I think "the road" kills people.
Bassist form queens of the stone age says there's no better feeling than playing live and that's why people that take drugs is to replace that feeling it off stage. I have played in front of people and the feeling is truly amazing
I always thought that the drugs start with just trying to deal with playing on stage. I was in a band in high school and I would get so nervous that I could barely play my instrument. With hundreds and sometimes a couple thousand ppl and all their energy coming directly at you, it was like sensory overload. I started smoking pot and it worked like magic. On the other hand are lead singer was just the opposite. He was an extreme personality, didn’t know what the word nervous even meant.
I think at a high enough level (i.e. rockstars playing packed arenas) *most* (but not all) artists get used to the pressure and taking drugs becomes more about dealing with energy exertion (tiredness or what Corgan was talking about - the sudden low ofter performing) or even pain (mental or physical). Also, artists' performance really varies under the influence. Some can perform just fine drunk or on drugs (sometimes better), others are absolute trash.
@@lemsip207 David Bowie famously suffered with stage fright, the time he did Soul Train he was off his head on coke, he also admitted to being physically sick before Live Aid in 1985. The lead singer with Steely Dan was bad with nerves too.
I think part of it is people who become musicians are excitement seekers and risk takers by their nature or they would have taken up a safe, stable profession like accounting.
You know very little about him, don't you? Most interviews and most durect accounts, plus much of his online behaviour actually paint the picture of a very insecure, backstabbing narcissist.
There is sort of a thing among musicians where some think it makes you better/more creative. A lot of the old school blues/jazz guys believed that. It spread to rock later on.
i love when guys who didnt start smoking pot until they retired and never touched hard drugs in their life think they know what they are talking about when it comes to drugs.... "hey I wonder what happened if i ate this?" smelling salts? realllllll hard stuff bill
The stuff Bill Mahre is describing was called Rush in the state of Michigan. Amyl nitrate for sure. You could buy the small bottle in any convenience/party store. One sniff in each nostril gave you a wonderful 1 to 2 minute high.
1. Musicians are artists, and drugs have always been used as a means of enhancing creativity. 2. Concerts are just parties, and people tend to drink/use drugs at parties, performers or otherwise. 3. Self-fulling prophecy. Drugs/alcohol are strongly associated with the culture of being a stage performer. To a degree, performers probably do feel like it's just what expected of them. 4. As Maher alluded to, people are likely offering them stuff, everywhere they go, as a means of gaining their favor. 5. To deal with the unique stress of being famous.
Lmao, not to say he's not talented, but after hearing about him from Kim thayl(sp?) throwing a tantrum over wanting some ridiculous whatever while back stage on his first big tour that he SHOULD HAVE been beyond grateful for big time just completely soured me from enjoying his music.. IDK, guess after meeting so many truly grateful artists growing up in Woodstock I just had never seen audacity or whatever you want to call it, before. Didn't help that he just sounds like he's whining in a lot of his singing anyway..
The other side of the coin is that all sorts of people from all walks of life are ending up dead from drugs. When I scan the obituaries in the local paper and see that someone between say 20 and 50 years old "died at home", chances are high that it was an overdose. The musician and drug use is likely true but it would be interesting to see some statistics of drug deaths among musicians and the population in general.
i've read that artist and mucisians/artists have a higher than average percentage od narcisist/sciopaths etc and people with those conditions are higher risk takers than the average person.
I feel that most artists live in this illusion that they need pain to create things they find beautiful, therefore they need situations and substances to take them out of reality
Disposable income and too much free time. These two items go hand in hand. It is almost impossible to OD on LSD. Now it can leave your mind in shackles.
Another reason for drug consumption among working musicians, and probably the entertainment industry in general, is because outside of the actual performance, that life is incredibly boring. Ninety-nine percent of your time is spent either in a van, in a strange hotel trying to sleep, waiting at the club between your sound check and your set time, and then waiting around after your set to get paid. It’s a lot of time to fill and there is almost always someone in every city eager to get you drugs and party.
Plus in the early days they often have to share single beds, sleep in the van or stay in grotty back street hotels. REM members used to take it in turn to sleep in the van.
No. He's an idiot. LSD is not "always liquid". LSD is a crystalline powder, which is usually diluted into a shelf stable carrier liquid, such as ethanol.
I thought it might have to do with the fact that creative sensitive people (which a lot of musicians are) can more easily get overwhelmed by their emotions because they’re so intense. So you’ll do anything you can to get away from those turbulent emotions, which alcohol and drugs do for you temporarily. The problem is that it becomes a vicious cycle which leads to addiction.
Was looking for someone to say something like this. I’m a musician (not a famous one obviously) and a drug user. I think a lot of creative people who make art where they dump a ton of emotion and passion into it come from some pretty fucked up backgrounds, at least in the rock world. I’m a huge metalhead, and a lot of those guys had some fucked up lives, and the songs they make reflect that. Drugs are an escape from reality for me. I don’t want to be sober because then my thoughts are there telling me awful things and filling me with anger and self-hatred. So… I do drugs to quiet them down. It’s not safe or sustainable, but neither is self-resentment. A lot of us are constantly running from reality. Drugs let you stop running for a while. It’s a welcome break, but it’s delicate. You keep pushing the highs more and more because the escape feels amazing. And that’s how you overdose or drive drunk or do other dumb shit. Billy seems like he comes from a stable background and may not have the pain in his past that a lot of musicians I love have in theirs, so I don’t think he identifies with the escape aspect of drugs. Believe me, it’s there. Layne Staley wasn’t doing heroin because “he didn’t want the party to end.”
as a "boots on the ground" industrial adhesive manufacturing worker... There are more of us than rock stars, but we're mostly just a bunch of potheads.
I came home after drinking all night and ate a bag of mushrooms my girlfriend got me for my birthday. There were probably about 30 standard portions in the bag and I ate the whole thing before I went to bed. I woke up about 30 minutes later and lost my mind for the next several hours. The closes sensation I could compare it to would be sprinting along the edge of the Grand Canyon on a race-horse while being terrified of heights and not knowing how to ride a horse.
LOL, I did 2 portions one time after being like nothing with 1 and the 2 portions sended me to another galaxy hahaha, can't imagine someone surviving a whole bag.
@@BackwoodsFilms Depends on the job. If I were required to do the same thing at my job as I did 5 years ago, I'd probably do drugs. Also, you can do your job in different ways, but people want you to sing your hits as they remember them from your album.
About two decades ago my best friend at the time was getting some amazing liquid Sid. I lived in SO, UT. He lived in Northern UT. My ex, and I arrived at his house. When he opened his door, he was like “stick out your tongue,” so I did. He then took out a lil bottle of breath freshener which was actually acid. He then squirted some in my mouth. THANK GOD IT WAS SOME OF THE GOOD STUFF. I’d always bring Molly with us, and dude always had the best Sid. Those were some fun times. There is no way in hell I’d touch any hard shit like that these days. Oh, to be young, and dumb.
They skipped the most obvious reason which is that artist of all types often struggle with trying to coax out and sustain moments of inspiration and epiphany, and these are very slippery things to pin down (drugs can sort of simulate these states, however the longer you do this the less effective it is and you ended up chasing an ever receding creative state of mind).
Also, when you have to front an audience of 10k, 50k or 100k, you can get more than a little nervous. Drugs can be a great way to help you deal with the nerves!
The stuff you pop are called poppers and are Amyl Nitrate. This is prescribed to heart patients, as it dilates the blood flow. That stuff in the little bottle is called LockerRoom. It is Butyl Nitrate and was used as an air freshener.
There's also the creative side. Most of them couldn't even come up with anything if they weren't high or drunk. They're really not that creative without "help"
Looking to replace/carry on that "Performance High" that iconic, brilliant Billy Corgan spoke of is also something athletes seek out as well and is a reason college wrestlers & football players etc tend to overdo it or get in trouble while celebrating the big win.Testosterone,endorphins,Alcohol & ?? can lead to some bad decisions for young men which is why many coaches always speak to their athletes about being responsible after competitions as we did while i was a college wrestling coach
The REAL reason is that music is fantasy, just like painting or acting, and in order to sustain and explore that fantasy, most musicians (and artists in general) must step outside of "reality" in order to function. Because "reality" is meaningless without another perspective to define it. There, I said it.
What I don’t understand is why so many rappers would say they had to sell drugs in order to have a rap career. Like the blues and jazz guys had to practice their instruments all day in order to have a music career or job at all. They could have been poor as hell barely scraping by with just a guitar and then become a musician. But rappers they have to sell drugs for some reason. “Man you think all of this just came to me overnight? I spent drugs on the streets in order to do what i do.”
If you meet a person in a situation where they are fairly young and have the time to drugs and enough money to either do a lot of drugs without consequences, there’s a good chance they do a lot of drugs. Likewise if you meet a poor person who has time and doesn’t see their lives getting better even if they were sober and dedicated 100% of the time, there’s a good chance that they abuse drugs. It’s also pretty common in the middle class actually. New theory, people abuse drugs in every profession but no one cares unless it’s a celebrity that is getting destroyed by them
As a musician and a recovering addict, I think both of these guys have really missed the mark on the question. Their answers are valid to varying degrees and certainly factors, but the real answer lies in what types of people become rockstars and addicts in the fist place.
Shhh, don't use logic or reason on Bill. He knows everything. Just let him put down others for using drugs while he drinks his whiskey and sucks on his cigar.
I've been a longtime fan of Bill Maher's TV programs, especially since he began his HBO show. But most of these Club Random podcasts are just grueling to watch. It is clear that unless scripted by a team of writers, Maher can't grasp basic topics, cannot communicate effectively as a person, and has no connection to the lives of the average American. The thing is, Bill, I'm sure that some members of the industrial adhesive industry do a ton of drugs...you just don't know any common people like that.
Yeah, these are terrible. Every celebrity and their dog seems to think they can do a podcast (see Meghan Markle) because they see Joe Rogan do it and think "that looks easy, I can do it". The thing about people like Rogan, Lex, PBD and Tom Segura (but NOT Bert Kreischer) is that they have good control over their egos, a genuine curiosity and a good way of speaking.
Imagine being exhausted for months on end, performing the same songs, over and over, in town after town, for audiences who cannot see you as a person. It is very, very depressing. The money fuels others to bring you drugs to dull your pain... so you can bring in more money.
Another possibility for heavy drug use is that these performers can, at times, work under tremendous pressure. The entertainment industry has a whole can be brutal. Imagine being a musician working after getting 3 hours sleep the night before and unforgiving producers are raising their voices at you, "C'mon, Man. It's all on you! We're all waiting on you!" Hell, I can imagine wanting stimulants to wake up during the day or wanting relaxants to fall asleep at night. That's my theory. My 2 cents.
Bill WANTS to think he's a rock star. There's a clip where the subject comes up of groupies, and Billy started to give a nuanced and very interesting answer, and talking about meeting girls backstage who he then had amazing all-night conversations with. And Bill, talking all over him of course, was so anxious to be recognized and acknowledged by Corgan as a peer, an equal, that he made a total ass of himself. He kept trying to anticipate what Corgan was about to say, as if to validate what he was attempting to project about himself, "oh yeah been there done that cuz you know comedians are just like rock stars with all the pussy they get" - yeah he literally was using that word. The more he talked, the more clear it became that he was in a competition of sorts, to be seen as being on the same level as Corgan - and that the reason he was doing it is that he was absolutely nowhere near that level in any way, including the fact that Corgan pretty clearly communicated that to a mature individual, how many women you've been with is not a competition. And this clip is coming across exactly the same way. Die from ODing on LSD? LMAO! He actually believes that stupid story about "what they now call" poppers (which btw have been called that since AT LEAST the 70s) puts him on the same level of what to him is a sort of drug chic accomplishment. And then he makes matters worse, sounds like even more of an insufferable ass, by equating the potential danger and irresponsibility in that poppers story (which is real) with doing acid (which is not!) and saying they were both idiots. Uh, speak for yourself, Bill. Oh and notice there was sex in that poppers story, too. This clip echoes the other, in that Maher is a totally desperate wannabe. Very revealing. One could think that Maher has his own very real accomplishments in his career to be secure in. Apparently not, if this insecurity in the face of this very accomplished musician and rock star is so very evident. What a shame that his insecurity has sabotaged so much of what could've been a really interesting interview / conversation.
I think Bill is too accustomed to his HBO show where he's either giving a monolog or the moderator of multiple guests. He doesn't know how to do have a one on one conversation with a person where he actually lets them talk for more than ten seconds without always interrupting and bringing the focus back to him.
Trying to keep the high going, money, and access. I can confirm consultants who also travel and live in hotels, and make decent $$$, it’s social, and also have access.
That's similar to the Grateful Dead story I had... Basically the first time I took acid it was a sugar cube and I traded the guy some weed for it I literally was tripping for like a week
Not many jobs are allowed to drink while working . Wish you'd let Billy talk more . New fan of his . Being too honest ain't gonna wreck his career or anything
it was the just the time, me and my friends didn't really play music but damn we partied like we were rock stars, I mean massive amounts of everything we done. if you weren't there you wouldn't believe it. it amazing any of us survived or didn't go insane. we lost a few in the early 2000s
The last two rehabs I did evaluations for didn't believe the amounts of drugs I would do in a sitting. We ran out of time on the portion where I recounted specific substances and amounts. I actually had to come back for a second appointment.
@@permafriday I've never told a therapist or counselor the amount of substances I've consumed, always felt that I would've been immediately dismissed and considered insane lol
@@permafriday rehabs are bs to me, they work for some, but you just gotta get you shit together lol, granted, with all the fear mongering and lack of honest education on and about drugs only add to the learning curve in our human condition. I recommend Dr Carl Harts book, Drug Use For Grown Ups ✌️💚
The first and only time I have done liquid LSD, was in a squat in London. The squatters were mostly Spanish speakers - most of them were street performers (living statue - clowns - acrobats etc). I was invited by a barmaid - she met up with me after she finished her shift. She sat next to me and I told her I'd taken 4 drops of liquid Acid so I was tripping - I still remember her look of disgust before she stood up and walked away. Great night - couldn't stop laughing. London is sh*t though!
May I take a guess ? - 2002 -2005 ; location : a squat in (* sorry !You have already said it was a squat ) Hackney /Dalston . Is that somewhat accurate ?
@@saraivatoledo1842 It would've been there or somewhere close. I remember it being at least three stories high - to me it looked like an abandoned school.
@@garyphisher7375 That was Dalston , one of the coolest squats I´ve ever been to regularly , I was friends with this dealer called "Grubber " (think he was German if memory serves .). This was one of the major reasons I would be there daily ...also a LOT of mad Eastern European girls. Crazy squat ...you would walk in and there would always be a lot of different parties in different rooms/ parts of the school . Different sound systems and DJs in different rooms ... did I have some crazy times there ...in hindsight it seems like I dreamt it all such was the dissonance with what was going on outside. K, liquid acid , great Green ...also some hard stuff which I really didn´t care for back then . You would have to go in through a back door ,right ? Just a few minutes away from Dalston´s train station . It´s London anyways , might be a very similar place somewhere else -the resemblance is striking though .
Imagine how good this show would be if Bill would let AMAZING PEOPLE tell their AMAZING FUCKING STORIES!
Maybe the weed won't let him.
@@briweeks71 unfortunately, bill maher is turning into a grumpy old man
Imagine how good this show would be if he wasn’t on it, ever.
@@Hapotecario
Ever since Trump, these liberal snobs have been in a constant state of butthurt and it’s great to watch.
For real
I can't believe Bill has been doing his show for so long and hasn't learned to not talk over people.
You mean like ... Oprah ? haha
@@lamnuck Or any of them really, these people are horrible interviewers lol
@@Nabo42 I work with a guy like this . I learned that you have to talk over someone sometimes or you'll never get a word in. mic hogs, haha
It’s partly regional communication style and the fact that the more emotionally involved and engaged in a topic someone is the more they tend to talk over one another. It can simply be a sign of an interesting conversation provided they aren’t trying to abusing shut down the other person from speaking.
Seems like how normal conversations go to me…
If Bill Maher interviewed Bill Maher, it would be two guys each saying 5 or 6 words before the other guy impatiently interrupts because he's convinced whatever he's thinking is way more interesting than what his clone is saying.
Kyle Dunnigan has that covered already
he needs to interview Brandan Schaub
😂😂😂
Brilliant.
😂 TOO REAL!
Bill destroys every interview.
Facts the dude is a smart and yet stupid stupid asshole !!with in essence basically destroys his very potential for greatness
Oh hes the best worst
That comment could be taken two ways, both correct
Yes he does.
It's a conversation with 2 dudes. Not an interview bud
This Bill guy really likes to hear Bill talk
Bill doesn't know what you mean.
That's basically what this podcast is: Bill Maher talking at famous people.
Bill is the coolest dude Bill ever met.
I'm glad that Billy finally allowed Bill Maher to talk!
IDK which is dumber: that Bill thinks 25 hits of LSD will "kill you" or that Billy thinks 2 cupped hands full of liquid LSD is anywhere NEAR 25 hits (try "in the hundreds" unless it was seriously watered down).
my favorite genre is people who don't know anything about drugs talking about drugs
giving him the benefit of the doubt I think Bill was making the argument that taking that quantity of an unknown substance from a guy you just met can definitely kill you. if that was some DOM Nbome or Bromo he would be a dead man. also yeah a cupful of liquid lsd even watered down would be like 25mg at least or 250 hits. definitely, a couple sheets worth which would leave you in a psychedelic trance for days on end and might traumatize you to the point of no return mentally. but physically I think you'd be alright and there are stories of people taking thumbprints or dousing themselves in the liquid and coming back to reality. lucy is a kind substance that will take care of you if given the respect it deserves
One hit of Cid is 100 micograms. One microgram is a millionth of a gram. Two handful s of acid would be like millions of hits or some shit
Okay so would 2 cupped hands of LSD kill someone? As you say "in the hundreds" of hits?
@@microplasticsinurblud xcept that such things encourage draconian Drug Laws, but it is otherwise quite amusing LOL
Motley Crue was right. Performing on stage in front of a ton of people is the biggest high ever. Afterwards it’s really hard to just “shut off” so you want to keep the party going.
It's because your ENDORPHINS and Dopamine levels are THRU the roof. There is a real chemistry behind it . Also the testosterone levels and youth is on your side.
I think Motley just liked to party in general. Look at Vince, poor guy ...
Very true. I wanted to keep playing often
im surprised he didn't make the "drugs fuel artistic creativity" argument
@@microplasticsinurblud I believe he'd agree with that argument, so long as they aren't abused.
Bill steps all over the story about LSD. RELAX, BILL.
ikr instead of hearing an interesting macro dose trip story from the mind of a rockstar we get to hear about Bill's experience with poppers and weird sex
@@microplasticsinurblud Bill is the epitome of a malcontent narcissist. He is always butting his stupid asides into things. He thinks this is really in his basement club space. No, this is an interview for those of us watching and we would like to enjoy it. Billy even had to warn him he was stepping on the story. And then he called Billy Corgan a complete idiot basically.
"You could have died" LOL. Bill is so naïve.
@@AnthonyL0401 lol. there was a second there where Billy was like "Huh? Did he just call me an idiot?" then he let it slide cause it was the polite thing to do and he understood what he was trying to say. I mean we're definitely prone to make bad decisions and do some dumb stuff when we're young but idiot is kinda harsh. It's that same youthful exuberance that can and has created some amazing contributions across the board.
@@Shlogger And the worse part is that Bill Maher presents himself as a rebel and who wants to say whatever is true for himself, yet he has such rigid views especially as he's getting older. Bill is just truly an asshole, tbf.
Meanwhile, Alice Cooper said that he wasn't "partying" like people imagine; he was drinking because it was boring and depressing to be alone in hotel rooms all day while he was waiting for them to set up the venue.
There was also an interview with Harrison Ford where he openly admitted that he only really got to see hotel rooms, and traveling wasn't exciting for him. So it isn't a musician/rocker/rapper thing, it's a famous thing in general.
True. I know a few actors who are in demand and their lives are way less glamorous than people think.
@Soymilksoul its different now tho, celebrities are getting broker compared to the past
Is every question Bill asks now rhetorical? Or, does he just enjoy hearing himself talk over his guests? Either way, I’m so glad Bill knows more about being a rockstar than rockstars do. Such a unique perspective.
Yes
John McEnroe said in his book, "You Cannot Be Serious!" that the roar of the crowd is totally addicting. Also, the attention from the media and hero-worship from the fans. I'm convinced the Stones went from drug addiction to simply switching one addiction for another. Or stopping one and continuing another. All of these ancient rock bands are addicted to the attention and roar of the crowd. I rather doubt U2 needs the money. For cryin' out loud they did their best work 35 years ago!
I was in a band for years from age 18-26. I was wasted 99% of the time, because hanging out with the guys was so much fun and the sitting after feeling after was so low in comparison. I was never big and famous, but we had access too, and some money. Honestly, they were the best times of my life, I lived many through many stories. I still miss the excitement.
I’d recommend it, if you can keep control of it enough not to die, that is.
I'm seeing Billy everywhere these days..... I LOVE this man. I know it's Cliche....but his music influenced me greatly when I had several personal tragedies in my late teens. God Bless Him.
he;s very interesting on apd where the interviewer isn't an ass!
@@krusher74oh, you picked up on that one too huh😂.
My goodness this Maher guy hasn't just been obnoxious for his fruitcake "thoughts" about these corrupt to the core gobts that's for Damn sure!!
Mahr cant resist showing how much he knows. LOL.
*"doesn't know", you mean (cf. "25 hits of LSD will kill you")
he doesn't know shit. LSD isn't always just liquid. it comes in crystal form as well. 25 hits won't kill you but taking that high dose of an unknown substance definitely can be lethal if it's not actually lsd. lsd 25 is one of the few drugs on the planet where you can overdose to that extent and still walk away without major physical harm. your mind is another story, but he seems alright all these years later. also no surprise he experimented with amyls
He THINkS he knows a lot.😏
Being interviewed by Bill feels like talking to a doctor about your problems, and they're correcting your grammer instead of listening.
Grammar. And no, I'm not a doctor😁
LOL, very well stated.
@@collegerebel He could've meant kelsey grammer and that would be the right way to spell that.
🤣So true!
I had a psychiatrist like that once, first one I ever had. A particularly bad career to have if you act like that.
I like that his example of another profession is industrial adhesives. A job where you could literally sniff glue all day.
I'm a blue collar worker and about half my coworkers are acohilics or partake in some sort of drug!
Anyone who's worked in a major restaurant in a big city can tell you that most of the staff is on uppers all the fucking time.
@@VuotoPneumaNN Yet it still takes 25 minutes to make my nachos.
@@mneugent7658 Not sure they serve nachos at Osteria Francescana
@@VuotoPneumaNN Well that's a shame then.
"Hold on....let me tell the story...." - priceless
That was the warning shot
One reason why some rock stars started using drugs was to help keep them awake after being on the road for days on end with very little rest. And some to help cope with the pain
It's difficult to sleep on a tour bus even with bunks. I have slept in a sleeper carriage on an overnight train and woke up every time we pulled into a station. Sleeping in a cabin below deck on a ferry or ship is difficult too as it is so suffocating so I went upstairs to deck level lounges to try to sleep.
Yeah, it's far too stigmatized from years of propaganda. Otherwise I believe people would have woken up not only to a number of positives but to the fact that a whole lot of big pharma could be eliminated and expanding the mind to help ensure freedoms and liberties stayed intact for far longer as well!!
Those are excuses. The real reason is to get high
I took an Addy and perk one time and started playing the guitar and literally felt like I was playing like Jimi Hendrix and I filmed myself. The next day, yeah I definitely was not Jimi Hendrix lol.
Before I went to college, I'd only smoked weed once or twice and it was low quality small town brick weed. My first week of college I was introduced to really great weed by a guy across the hall. I went back to my dorm room, put on The Doors, and laid down in my bed. For the next two hours I was Jim Morrison. I never even got up out of my bed. I just lay there being Jim Morrison.
Roflmao I fucking love this!!!
At least THC really encourages expression. Where as most everything else eventually numbs your mind and sense's..
Iykyk, obviously 😢
I actually played my best off of a 7.5mg percocet. I guess it was just lower inhibitions-- all the tension in my arms went away. I never touched that crap again, man I was knocked out cold after
in 91 I went with friends to SF that just so happened to be over the weekend for the Bill Graham memorial concert(Golden Gate Park). We went and it didnt take 5 minutes for someone walking around with a glass bottle, an eye dropper, and a bag of sugar cubes to offer us a dose. We didnt want to be rude so...anyway I dont know how we got backstage(a friend said it was a roadie for Tracy Chapman of all people), but there were drugs everywhere. All free. Everything, anything.
I work in the LA/Hollywood film industry and there are a LOT of drugs(more so a decade+ ago). Ive been to a lot of concerts and gotten backstage(the first 3 Lollapalooza for instance. Parties with famous actors and musicians) but that concert was on a whole never level.
When I was in my band playing in Hollywood, I realized to Billy's first point, that there is a lot of down time, a lot of time to waste that the draw or allure to drugs and alcohol was an easy time waster before you even get into the effects of it all. After that you crave to keep that feeling and it's all over. I was lucky enough to exercise some restraint but the allure was all too easy.
I only drank when I was onstage. It numbed the cigarette smoke sting from eyes and made being onstage tolerable. I quit music years ago and haven't had a drop since.
@@xpicklepie As soon as I got out of music and out of that environment, it was easier for me to not to drink or smoke anymore. Part of the problem was my lack of discipline but the environment did not make things better.
Yes, let's get pedantic about the fact that paper LSD is technically a liquid, Bill
Plus he’s just wrong that all LSD is liquid anyway. It’s crystals that are made into a fine powder. He’s a know-it-all *and* he’s wrong. What a fun combination
such as ass!
Gel tabs....
Yes, numerous forms - like coke isn't a paste, or a liquid - or a rock etc..
God it's frustrating listening to him continuously interrupt what I wanted to hear - I sure as hell wasn't watching to hear from him..
I guess that another reason they do them is that they're fun -at first -and they help you deal with the profound social disconnect that's a consequence of having very few people that you can relate to your stardom, or even make lasting friendships with -because everyone wants to screw you, physically or metaphorically. Then there's the grinding physical load. I think "the road" kills people.
1:34 when he says "HOLD ON, im doing a story!" absolutely killed me, he was fed up!
Bassist form queens of the stone age says there's no better feeling than playing live and that's why people that take drugs is to replace that feeling it off stage. I have played in front of people and the feeling is truly amazing
I always thought that the drugs start with just trying to deal with playing on stage. I was in a band in high school and I would get so nervous that I could barely play my instrument. With hundreds and sometimes a couple thousand ppl and all their energy coming directly at you, it was like sensory overload. I started smoking pot and it worked like magic. On the other hand are lead singer was just the opposite. He was an extreme personality, didn’t know what the word nervous even meant.
I think at a high enough level (i.e. rockstars playing packed arenas) *most* (but not all) artists get used to the pressure and taking drugs becomes more about dealing with energy exertion (tiredness or what Corgan was talking about - the sudden low ofter performing) or even pain (mental or physical). Also, artists' performance really varies under the influence. Some can perform just fine drunk or on drugs (sometimes better), others are absolute trash.
Eddie Van Halen got into hard spirits and smoking in his mid teens as he was too shy even to perform with a school band.
@@lemsip207 David Bowie famously suffered with stage fright, the time he did Soul Train he was off his head on coke, he also admitted to being physically sick before Live Aid in 1985. The lead singer with Steely Dan was bad with nerves too.
I think part of it is people who become musicians are excitement seekers and risk takers by their nature or they would have taken up a safe, stable profession like accounting.
Billy is a guy who comfortable in his own skin and he’s not afraid to make fun of himself. That’s awesome
There’s a lot of material
@@aWomanFreeddidn't he bang Courtney love, ?
You know very little about him, don't you? Most interviews and most durect accounts, plus much of his online behaviour actually paint the picture of a very insecure, backstabbing narcissist.
He a goof😅
VuotoPuta
Sure little bro. Weird ass.
There is sort of a thing among musicians where some think it makes you better/more creative. A lot of the old school blues/jazz guys believed that. It spread to rock later on.
i love when guys who didnt start smoking pot until they retired and never touched hard drugs in their life think they know what they are talking about when it comes to drugs.... "hey I wonder what happened if i ate this?" smelling salts? realllllll hard stuff bill
The stuff Bill Mahre is describing was called Rush in the state of Michigan. Amyl nitrate for sure. You could buy the small bottle in any convenience/party store.
One sniff in each nostril gave you a wonderful 1 to 2 minute high.
1. Musicians are artists, and drugs have always been used as a means of enhancing creativity.
2. Concerts are just parties, and people tend to drink/use drugs at parties, performers or otherwise.
3. Self-fulling prophecy. Drugs/alcohol are strongly associated with the culture of being a stage performer. To a degree, performers probably do feel like it's just what expected of them.
4. As Maher alluded to, people are likely offering them stuff, everywhere they go, as a means of gaining their favor.
5. To deal with the unique stress of being famous.
Rush is one of the rare bands that grew out of the drug thing early
@@lamnuckThe Manic Street Preachers too.
Rock bands rarely have drug tests. I imagine that is another big difference.
@lamnuck I think it's more that they kept it pretty quiet and aren't really "partiers" per se.
But when you are an entertainer you are staff just as much as the catering staff and lighting crew so you are working not partying.
Billy Corgan is the top dog of rock stars presently.
Maynard James Keenan - "Lol."
False. 😂😂😂
Lmao, not to say he's not talented, but after hearing about him from Kim thayl(sp?) throwing a tantrum over wanting some ridiculous whatever while back stage on his first big tour that he SHOULD HAVE been beyond grateful for big time just completely soured me from enjoying his music..
IDK, guess after meeting so many truly grateful artists growing up in Woodstock I just had never seen audacity or whatever you want to call it, before.
Didn't help that he just sounds like he's whining in a lot of his singing anyway..
The other side of the coin is that all sorts of people from all walks of life are ending up dead from drugs. When I scan the obituaries in the local paper and see that someone between say 20 and 50 years old "died at home", chances are high that it was an overdose. The musician and drug use is likely true but it would be interesting to see some statistics of drug deaths among musicians and the population in general.
i've read that artist and mucisians/artists have a higher than average percentage od narcisist/sciopaths etc and people with those conditions are higher risk takers than the average person.
Bill Maher at 2:15-“you could of died”😂😂
What a rookie
I remember doing poppers! It was sold in a machine in a club. 😂😂
I feel that most artists live in this illusion that they need pain to create things they find beautiful, therefore they need situations and substances to take them out of reality
Creatives have a tendency to be mental, but musicians are a whole special category of mental. Just combine that with everything Billy said.
Kristen Pfaff. NEVER forgotten. 🎸
Disposable income and too much free time. These two items go hand in hand.
It is almost impossible to OD on LSD. Now it can leave your mind in shackles.
Both.
You can easily OD on LSD. Now, dying from an overdose... That's a different story.
@@permafridayOverdosing is defined as ingesting enough of the drug to cause toxicity or death, it is not easy to do on LSD
@@chadelles2586 It can also be just taking more than what was intended, regardless of the level of toxicity.
Wow...I wonder what it would be like to hear Billy speak!
Another reason for drug consumption among working musicians, and probably the entertainment industry in general, is because outside of the actual performance, that life is incredibly boring. Ninety-nine percent of your time is spent either in a van, in a strange hotel trying to sleep, waiting at the club between your sound check and your set time, and then waiting around after your set to get paid. It’s a lot of time to fill and there is almost always someone in every city eager to get you drugs and party.
Plus in the early days they often have to share single beds, sleep in the van or stay in grotty back street hotels. REM members used to take it in turn to sleep in the van.
The waiting around us valuable down time for relaxing, exercising or doing vocal exercises. You can't be on all the time.
Lol Maher's comment on LSD. "You couldve died from the acid!"
Bill is clearly a connoisseur of LSD then 😂
No. He's an idiot.
LSD is not "always liquid". LSD is a crystalline powder, which is usually diluted into a shelf stable carrier liquid, such as ethanol.
The EDM, House and Techno scene have the best of the best.
I thought it might have to do with the fact that creative sensitive people (which a lot of musicians are) can more easily get overwhelmed by their emotions because they’re so intense. So you’ll do anything you can to get away from those turbulent emotions, which alcohol and drugs do for you temporarily. The problem is that it becomes a vicious cycle which leads to addiction.
Was looking for someone to say something like this.
I’m a musician (not a famous one obviously) and a drug user. I think a lot of creative people who make art where they dump a ton of emotion and passion into it come from some pretty fucked up backgrounds, at least in the rock world. I’m a huge metalhead, and a lot of those guys had some fucked up lives, and the songs they make reflect that.
Drugs are an escape from reality for me. I don’t want to be sober because then my thoughts are there telling me awful things and filling me with anger and self-hatred. So… I do drugs to quiet them down. It’s not safe or sustainable, but neither is self-resentment. A lot of us are constantly running from reality. Drugs let you stop running for a while. It’s a welcome break, but it’s delicate. You keep pushing the highs more and more because the escape feels amazing. And that’s how you overdose or drive drunk or do other dumb shit.
Billy seems like he comes from a stable background and may not have the pain in his past that a lot of musicians I love have in theirs, so I don’t think he identifies with the escape aspect of drugs. Believe me, it’s there. Layne Staley wasn’t doing heroin because “he didn’t want the party to end.”
Only Bill Maher would drink an *inhalant* like amyl nitrate. Seriously, that's like saying "instead of sniffing glue, I almost ate glue".
as a "boots on the ground" industrial adhesive manufacturing worker... There are more of us than rock stars, but we're mostly just a bunch of potheads.
When bought in the bottle, it was called Rush.
And Locker Room
I came home after drinking all night and ate a bag of mushrooms my girlfriend got me for my birthday. There were probably about 30 standard portions in the bag and I ate the whole thing before I went to bed. I woke up about 30 minutes later and lost my mind for the next several hours. The closes sensation I could compare it to would be sprinting along the edge of the Grand Canyon on a race-horse while being terrified of heights and not knowing how to ride a horse.
That's it? I dream that kind of thing NIGHTLY and then I wake up shitting myself LMAO and I don't do drugs LMAO
lol, I get mad scary dreams straight from hell when I go to bed sober
That's an amazing metaphor man, made me laugh out loud!
and you want reparations...?
just be glad you are alive.......
LOL, I did 2 portions one time after being like nothing with 1 and the 2 portions sended me to another galaxy hahaha, can't imagine someone surviving a whole bag.
When i first seen "This is why Rockstar do drugs w/billy corgan" I thought "How the hell did he do drugs with Jimmy-Janice & Amy winehouse?
If I had to sing the same song every night, I'd do drugs, too.
What's the difference between a musician singing the same song every night and an average person getting up to do the same job every day?
@@BackwoodsFilms Depends on the job. If I were required to do the same thing at my job as I did 5 years ago, I'd probably do drugs. Also, you can do your job in different ways, but people want you to sing your hits as they remember them from your album.
About two decades ago my best friend at the time was getting some amazing liquid Sid. I lived in SO, UT. He lived in Northern UT. My ex, and I arrived at his house. When he opened his door, he was like “stick out your tongue,” so I did. He then took out a lil bottle of breath freshener which was actually acid. He then squirted some in my mouth. THANK GOD IT WAS SOME OF THE GOOD STUFF. I’d always bring Molly with us, and dude always had the best Sid. Those were some fun times. There is no way in hell I’d touch any hard shit like that these days. Oh, to be young, and dumb.
They skipped the most obvious reason which is that artist of all types often struggle with trying to coax out and sustain moments of inspiration and epiphany, and these are very slippery things to pin down (drugs can sort of simulate these states, however the longer you do this the less effective it is and you ended up chasing an ever receding creative state of mind).
Also, when you have to front an audience of 10k, 50k or 100k, you can get more than a little nervous. Drugs can be a great way to help you deal with the nerves!
Doc Ellis pitched a no hitter on LSD in the All Star Game in 71'. That must have been a great show.
The stuff you pop are called poppers and are Amyl Nitrate. This is prescribed to heart patients, as it dilates the blood flow. That stuff in the little bottle is called LockerRoom. It is Butyl Nitrate and was used as an air freshener.
There's also the creative side. Most of them couldn't even come up with anything if they weren't high or drunk. They're really not that creative without "help"
I first thought the title was asking why they do them with Billy Gorgan.
I love how billy was like "hold on im telling the story"
Looking to replace/carry on that "Performance High" that iconic, brilliant Billy Corgan spoke of is also something athletes seek out as well and is a reason college wrestlers & football players etc tend to overdo it or get in trouble while celebrating the big win.Testosterone,endorphins,Alcohol & ?? can lead to some bad decisions for young men which is why many coaches always speak to their athletes about being responsible after competitions as we did while i was a college wrestling coach
Dopamine levels are super high.
Drugs hit you a lot harder when you are in peak physical shape as well.
When I was a wrestler, smoking weed felt twice as strong as say smoking weed while sedentary
The REAL reason is that music is fantasy, just like painting or acting, and in order to sustain and explore that fantasy, most musicians (and artists in general) must step outside of "reality" in order to function. Because "reality" is meaningless without another perspective to define it. There, I said it.
Poor rock stars, a lot of money but unhappy... I'm so sad for them😢😢😢
Jesus ; look at Kurt Cobain. He would have been better off being a local band that never made it.
The old tale of the tragic artist
So u would rather be a nobody/ nothing than billy idol, most people will pick the rock star,
What I don’t understand is why so many rappers would say they had to sell drugs in order to have a rap career. Like the blues and jazz guys had to practice their instruments all day in order to have a music career or job at all. They could have been poor as hell barely scraping by with just a guitar and then become a musician. But rappers they have to sell drugs for some reason. “Man you think all of this just came to me overnight? I spent drugs on the streets in order to do what i do.”
Billy Corgan is the Lex Luthor of rock-n-roll.
With Billy Corgan specifically of course 😉
Bill the only guy who can interview a famous person and make the interview about him. SMH…
He's a tosser
I let a random stranger drop a hit of acid in my eye at a Grateful Dead show, that was not smart but worked out for me 😊
If you meet a person in a situation where they are fairly young and have the time to drugs and enough money to either do a lot of drugs without consequences, there’s a good chance they do a lot of drugs. Likewise if you meet a poor person who has time and doesn’t see their lives getting better even if they were sober and dedicated 100% of the time, there’s a good chance that they abuse drugs. It’s also pretty common in the middle class actually. New theory, people abuse drugs in every profession but no one cares unless it’s a celebrity that is getting destroyed by them
By reading the title I thought every rockstar is doing drugs with Billy Corgan 😅
3:09 pffft shut up Bill
As a musician and a recovering addict, I think both of these guys have really missed the mark on the question. Their answers are valid to varying degrees and certainly factors, but the real answer lies in what types of people become rockstars and addicts in the fist place.
Nobody cares.
I'm not a rock star, just a regular person. I've taken shit off people that I just met many times, when I was young.
Yea, people exchanging drugs is normal when youre young
And the phenomena in Sociology called "self-typing". A musician becomes self-typed a "rock star" and begins fulfilling that role.
He wouldn't have ODed Bill lmao. You can't OD on acid.
Shhh, don't use logic or reason on Bill. He knows everything. Just let him put down others for using drugs while he drinks his whiskey and sucks on his cigar.
It is the social aspect at first. Hard not to partake when you are going to parties almost every day.
I've been a longtime fan of Bill Maher's TV programs, especially since he began his HBO show. But most of these Club Random podcasts are just grueling to watch. It is clear that unless scripted by a team of writers, Maher can't grasp basic topics, cannot communicate effectively as a person, and has no connection to the lives of the average American. The thing is, Bill, I'm sure that some members of the industrial adhesive industry do a ton of drugs...you just don't know any common people like that.
Still better than watching gutfeld,lol
Yeah, these are terrible. Every celebrity and their dog seems to think they can do a podcast (see Meghan Markle) because they see Joe Rogan do it and think "that looks easy, I can do it".
The thing about people like Rogan, Lex, PBD and Tom Segura (but NOT Bert Kreischer) is that they have good control over their egos, a genuine curiosity and a good way of speaking.
@@Banana_Split_Cream_Bunsyep and let their guests talk.
From my understanding of LSD, it's really hard to die from it even if you take huge quantities of it.
I think Bill was better when he was not high.
When hasn't he been high?
@@brando7266 I thought he wasn't in Real Time
@@GandhiQc he's been smoking weed ,since his college days,
His first comment is correct, you get so high after a great gig that you want to continue that feeling after the gig, FTW!
Bill apparently hasn't done much lsd, or at least the research on it. 😒
Just next level ironic that Bill is sitting there stoned drunk talking about why people do drugs 🤔
The point of amyl nitrate was to orgasm in slow motion.
Where can I get amyl nitrate?
@@brando7266 hehehe.
Imagine being exhausted for months on end, performing the same songs, over and over, in town after town, for audiences who cannot see you as a person. It is very, very depressing. The money fuels others to bring you drugs to dull your pain... so you can bring in more money.
Bill's insufferable.
Another possibility for heavy drug use is that these performers can, at times, work under tremendous pressure. The entertainment industry has a whole can be brutal. Imagine being a musician working after getting 3 hours sleep the night before and unforgiving producers are raising their voices at you, "C'mon, Man. It's all on you! We're all waiting on you!" Hell, I can imagine wanting stimulants to wake up during the day or wanting relaxants to fall asleep at night. That's my theory. My 2 cents.
Bill Mahr thinks that he is a rock star.
Bill WANTS to think he's a rock star. There's a clip where the subject comes up of groupies, and Billy started to give a nuanced and very interesting answer, and talking about meeting girls backstage who he then had amazing all-night conversations with.
And Bill, talking all over him of course, was so anxious to be recognized and acknowledged by Corgan as a peer, an equal, that he made a total ass of himself. He kept trying to anticipate what Corgan was about to say, as if to validate what he was attempting to project about himself, "oh yeah been there done that cuz you know comedians are just like rock stars with all the pussy they get" - yeah he literally was using that word.
The more he talked, the more clear it became that he was in a competition of sorts, to be seen as being on the same level as Corgan - and that the reason he was doing it is that he was absolutely nowhere near that level in any way, including the fact that Corgan pretty clearly communicated that to a mature individual, how many women you've been with is not a competition.
And this clip is coming across exactly the same way. Die from ODing on LSD? LMAO! He actually believes that stupid story about "what they now call" poppers (which btw have been called that since AT LEAST the 70s) puts him on the same level of what to him is a sort of drug chic accomplishment.
And then he makes matters worse, sounds like even more of an insufferable ass, by equating the potential danger and irresponsibility in that poppers story (which is real) with doing acid (which is not!) and saying they were both idiots. Uh, speak for yourself, Bill. Oh and notice there was sex in that poppers story, too.
This clip echoes the other, in that Maher is a totally desperate wannabe. Very revealing. One could think that Maher has his own very real accomplishments in his career to be secure in. Apparently not, if this insecurity in the face of this very accomplished musician and rock star is so very evident. What a shame that his insecurity has sabotaged so much of what could've been a really interesting interview / conversation.
Bill is high when he does this podcast!
Wow, anyone that has done drugs can tell a fake drug story. And this is a fake drug story. Tripped your brains out…😆
Right? I feel like if that were a true story he'd at least have used the correct vernacular, "tripped balls."
It does sound fake. Like a story you told in high school and then someone believed it so you just kept telling it.
Bill Maher always reminds me how good Howard Stern is at interviewing people.
I think Bill is too accustomed to his HBO show where he's either giving a monolog or the moderator of multiple guests. He doesn't know how to do have a one on one conversation with a person where he actually lets them talk for more than ten seconds without always interrupting and bringing the focus back to him.
it’s funny that the box-set match Billy’s shoes
Trying to keep the high going, money, and access. I can confirm consultants who also travel and live in hotels, and make decent $$$, it’s social, and also have access.
"I guess it was what they now call poppers."
Bill they've been calling them poppers since the 80's, man...
That's similar to the Grateful Dead story I had... Basically the first time I took acid it was a sugar cube and I traded the guy some weed for it I literally was tripping for like a week
Also the expectations and Anxiety on the nove all the time....
Hold a giant bong hit in your lungs, and pontificate about the dangers of doing drugs, as you exhale. And then pour yourself a glass of whiskey.
Not many jobs are allowed to drink while working . Wish you'd let Billy talk more . New fan of his . Being too honest ain't gonna wreck his career or anything
it was the just the time, me and my friends didn't really play music but damn we partied like we were rock stars, I mean massive amounts of everything we done. if you weren't there you wouldn't believe it. it amazing any of us survived or didn't go insane. we lost a few in the early 2000s
I can relate. there's definitely times throughout the day when I'm hit with random memories and I think how the fuck am I still here? lol
The last two rehabs I did evaluations for didn't believe the amounts of drugs I would do in a sitting. We ran out of time on the portion where I recounted specific substances and amounts. I actually had to come back for a second appointment.
@@permafriday I've never told a therapist or counselor the amount of substances I've consumed, always felt that I would've been immediately dismissed and considered insane lol
@@permafriday rehabs are bs to me, they work for some, but you just gotta get you shit together lol, granted, with all the fear mongering and lack of honest education on and about drugs only add to the learning curve in our human condition. I recommend Dr Carl Harts book, Drug Use For Grown Ups ✌️💚
@@sitindogmas You should give it a shot sometime! It's worked out for me before.
The first and only time I have done liquid LSD, was in a squat in London. The squatters were mostly Spanish speakers - most of them were street performers (living statue - clowns - acrobats etc).
I was invited by a barmaid - she met up with me after she finished her shift. She sat next to me and I told her I'd taken 4 drops of liquid Acid so I was tripping - I still remember her look of disgust before she stood up and walked away.
Great night - couldn't stop laughing. London is sh*t though!
May I take a guess ? - 2002 -2005 ; location : a squat in (* sorry !You have already said it was a squat ) Hackney /Dalston . Is that somewhat accurate ?
@@saraivatoledo1842 It would've been there or somewhere close.
I remember it being at least three stories high - to me it looked like an abandoned school.
@@garyphisher7375 That was Dalston , one of the coolest squats I´ve ever been to regularly , I was friends with this dealer called "Grubber " (think he was German if memory serves .). This was one of the major reasons I would be there daily ...also a LOT of mad Eastern European girls.
Crazy squat ...you would walk in and there would always be a lot of different parties in different rooms/ parts of the school . Different sound systems and DJs in different rooms ... did I have some crazy times there ...in hindsight it seems like I dreamt it all such was the dissonance with what was going on outside. K, liquid acid , great Green ...also some hard stuff which I really didn´t care for back then .
You would have to go in through a back door ,right ? Just a few minutes away from Dalston´s train station . It´s London anyways , might be a very similar place somewhere else -the resemblance is striking though .