I had an intersex kid in my elementary school. The conversations the kids had vs the adults were so different regarding them. The teachers were not happy that they used both bathrooms and the kids were like “they are both so they use both”
That’s not possible, everybody (including intersex people) are male or female. Only X chromosomes, you’re female. Anything else makes you male. You might have an extra chromosome but you’re still male or female.
This is how I hope it will become everywhere, as someone whose intersex there are some days its just safer for me to use one instead of the other but itd be nice if I didnt have to worry at all
This is so educational. For someone fairly ignorant to the topic thank you for taking this topic in such a sensitive and respectful way, it makes it comfortable to watch without cringing at people being disrespectful and rude. This was handled perfectly and Jahni was very open, honest and seemingly relaxed so it was nice to see her comfortable.
Educational for sure; I wasn't aware that pregnancy was an option for individuals with this condition. For some reason I'd taken onboard the idea that it went hand-in-hand with sterility; glad to know that's not always the case!
@@ShaunCheah Intersex isn't a single medical condition with one underlying cause. It's a term to referring to anyone with atypical sex characteristics and the cause can stem from abnormal chromosomes, wonky hormones, and/or atypical genital configuration. There's no blanket manifestation of how it presents and what it means for the person who is intersex. A lot depends on the underlying cause.
glad she mentioned waiting till age of consent then discussing a vaginoplasty. bc we really shouldn't make this rash decision for a child then their physical appearance may look like the opposite of their sex or identity crises happen. this video was so fun and insightful
Not all vaginoplasties are cosmetic. It seems there's a blanket statement about this issue and thats simply false. This fact should not negate the 'if it's cosmetic' conversation.
As someone who is intersex, thank you for making this video and bringing awareness to this topic. You have no idea the amount of times the topic of gender/sex comes up and I say I’m intersex and someone goes “Huh what is that?”
I legit told a guy I had an intersex friend and he said "I don't believe intersex is real, sounds like something white people invented" (guy was black)
@@g.3521 I could see one reason - intersex is a physical, medical thing. Like it can be seen and observed, whereas trans people it is entirely communicated by the individual. Nothing on their body as they were naturally born (that we know of) can signal they are trans.
cuz transgender people co-opted it and try to act like it's the same thing. they completely ignore the fact intersex peopel are born that way, while transpeople are just those who arent comfortable with their biological sex
@@The88Cheat That doesn’t mean they don’t deserve representation, this is an excuse that has been used several times for many different minorities, it’s a form of bigotry, red heads are over represented in the media but no one talks about that, everyone deserves to be represented no matter what😊
My friend has male genitalia but a uterus. Her parents never told her and socialized her as a boy. She has now transitioned to a female after discovering. I completely agree children should be told and have the ability to choose for themselves
I am so grateful for educational videos like this!! I took a sociology of gender class in college (taught by a non-binary prof and with transgender guest speakers) and the first couple of weeks, we spent focusing on learning gender vs. sex. I knew intersex people existed but I thought it just meant both genitalia but that is not the case at all. I also learned in that class that nearly 2% of the world population is estimated to be intersex. Much more common than people think. As someone studying to be a therapist (start having clients in a couple months!), I am so grateful I took classes like sociology of gender so I can be understanding of *all* of my clients. I want my practice to be truly inclusive and not just *seem* inclusive based on my options for gender or sex in the forms that I have in my office, as they mentioned in the video. Loved this video and how knowledgeable they were about their community!! Update: I got my dream internship and will be working with college students! Such an emotional time both sexuality and gender-wise for so many people and I’m honored to be brought along for their journey.
As an intersex person myself I believe that estimation is also incorrect and I do support the transgender community but the truth is they have nothing to do with intersex, intersex is used as a scapegoat for a lot of trans arguments and it’s incomparable since Intersex is gender/sex biologically and trans is just identity She talks about this at 9:40 Sexuality is Identity Trans is Identity Intersex is Gender/Sex
@@yoyoyiggityyo17 Nobody would want their children to be born with a disorder. I’m intersex and it’s a disorder and can have major effects on our health and life. Intersex is comparable to being born blind, extra limbs or any other physical disorder you can think of.
Love the energy! So trippy when you come onto the show expecting to talk to a stranger and it's someone you knew from middle and high school. Everyone was so kind and definitely enjoyed listening so openly to another's experience
I didnt know that “hermaphrodite” was a negative word. Thats the only way I knew how to describe intersex people. I wont be using that term anmore. Ive learned a lot from this video and hope to hear more intersex people speak on their experiences and thoughts in the future!
I think it's similar to the way men using the word "females" to refer to women is seen as derogatory since they're both words that are commonly used to refer to animals so it feels dehumanizing. (I'm not intersex though so that's just my best guess, I could be wrong)
As someone who was born with Partial Androgen Insensitivity "Syndrome" (Just like Jahni) but with different experiences. I am so so happy yall did this. If anyone has any additional questions please ask! I love sharing and educating on the internet haha
I was just wondering why the word "syndrome" is disliked? I also have a condition that ends with syndrome (not intersex related) and I never tought about twice, for me it was just part of the name nothing more. Maybe it's a language thing, since I don't speak English on a day to day basis?
@@_Marije_ I dont have a hugeee problem with it but saying its a "syndrome", or I've heard some people say a disorder, makes me feel like there's an issue or problem. Which medically there is but there isn't a real "problem" with me or anyone else yk? It doesn't really effect my day to day life in that way. Some people are bothered by it some arent
Thats speaking about my specific intersex variation^^ Some people don't find out until they are trying to have kids or some don't ever really figure it out. As mentioned in the video, intersex is a very very broad term so everyone finds out a little differently
As an intersex person myself I enjoyed this video. She really understands since she is intersex and is really nice to all communities. I totally agree with 9:40 where transgender has to do with identity and not gender/sex You don’t understand the amount of times people of the trans community try to compare themselves or use intersex as a scapegoat I love that this new age we can accept peoples identities but please don’t use something that mostly cripples our biological effectiveness to your advantage There’s a difference between biology and identity and once we all accept each other and once more communities are spoken for instead of just including us in the LGBTQIA we need actual representation like she said. 🏳️🌈❤
I have friends with older kids (teen-YA) who are intersex and have often wondered how many trans people may actually be intersex, especially with chromosome differences that may never be tested for. Any insight into that appreciated. I would rather never assume anything that might hurt someone.
@@victoriadelano6 I have a friend who’s trans and is intersex, intersex is rare some people estimate it to 2% of the population. I would say there’s some intersex people who identify as trans after their parents or doctors chose their gender for them. This is why consent is so important and I would advocate that nothing should be done without consent unless it’s a medical emergency or has to be done before the consenting age. Since it’s rare there’s not going to be that many trans people are intersex or vice versa. I identify as a male though I was lucky enough to feel comfortable enough and didn’t have a tremendous amount of unwanted hormonal effects growing up Every intersex person is different and there can be major health downsides depending on how the severity of it Being that there’s 2% intersex and 5% trans/non-binary in the population it would be even an overall smaller amount of intersex people presenting as trans
@@parosmiastinks8962 for me as someone not in either community but who cares about people in both, I just don’t ever want to make assumptions. I know several older teens/young adults who did not have chromosome testing to discover they were intersex until they were adults or have yet to have it due to parental beliefs that there is no such thing. My concern is that some trans people may never even know if they have biologic differences bc of the circumstances and lack of knowledgeable medical care. At the end of the day for me as an outsider, I do think the best thing I can do is educate that people come with all kinds of wonderful differences and that no laws and policies should be oppressing either group.
Transgender HAS EVERYTHING to do with gender, that should be obvious, since that’s where the name comes from. Sex is a completely different thing. Gender is socially constructed meanwhile sex is what you are assigned at birth.
It's wild to see how little people know about being intersex. I learned about it in ninth grade biology in the chromosomes chapter. I appreciate that my teacher introduced us to it because most avoid it due to it's connection to queerness. She showed her class that not only is gender nonbinary, so is sex.
@Caitlyn Carvalho That's just a different experience than being born intersex. I don't understand the push nowadays to lump groups of people together but it's not helpful.
Jahni is one of the sweetest people I know. My fondest memory of her was in my freshman year when I felt lonely and isolated, and they held space for me, it was heartwarming at a time when I felt so alone. 💚
@@user-hana777 "Hermaphrodite" is a term attributed to animals with both male and female genitalia. So to use the term for a person is seen as dehumanizing.
I find it interesting when Jahni talked about PCOS and intersex. I have PCOS and I still look and feel like a woman. However, there are some things that makes me feel more manly. For example, I have a very thick and tight skin, I put on muscles very easily, etc. When I compare my body with my mum I always feel weirded out a bit cause her skin's so soft and smooth whereas mine is thick and coarse. I dunno how to explain this tbh.
I have PCOS too & found it interesting as well! I don’t have a regular period (can go for months without it), possible problems w infertility & hormones. I grow hair on my upper lip not like a mustache or anything but it’s noticeable (used to shave it but now I don’t), parts of my chest have some hair on them (used to tweeze them but not anymore) & doctor said I have higher levels of testosterone than your average woman. They gave me estrogen pills to balance hormone levels but I didn’t want to take them. I didn’t understand why that was something that needed to be fixed. I present mostly femme but there are days where I feel some discomfort & present more masc. I saw how there’s some evidence that having PCOS can affect sexuality & gender identity and have wondered in the past if I didn’t have it would life be different but I’ve learned to embrace it. I’m pansexual & also identify as a non-binary/genderqueer woman and I’m happy 😊
@@cydneyo1817 I am happy for you that you're comfortable with your sexuality and gender identity. My doctor also told me that I have a "masculine" forehead, although I dunno what that is. And yes we women with PCOS produce high testosterone that's why we are like this. I know I am a woman deep inside so never faced any confusion about my gender identity. My doctor suggested me hormonal treatments but I didn't opt for it. But the irregular periods can be a hassle. Btw can you suggest me the link of the documents where you learned about PCOS and how it affects our sexuality and gender identity? I have been searching for some evidences now.
@@mimi19932 IDK why it keeps deleting my comment so imma try to do it in separate parts but yeah I am happy that you’re confident in your identity as a woman as you should be don’t let anyone tell or make you feel different your identity is yours and yours alone ❤️ I think that’s why PCOS and intersex is so heavily debated because not everyone has the same symptoms and just because I feel a certain way and it makes sense to me doesn’t mean that everyone that has the same symptoms as me has to feel that way too and for others w different symptoms it doesn’t even make sense at all so I totally get it!
I’m sorry but I literally tried so many times and it won’t let me post the comment I think it’s just getting flagged for spam because there’s five different links, every time I refresh my comment is gone it’s so annoying 🤷🏽♀️ For gender and PCOS, look up “psychological gender of patients with polycystic ovary syndrome” study, for PCOS and sexuality look up “Prevalence of polycystic ovaries and polycystic ovary syndrome in lesbian woman compared to heterosexual women” study & “the link between PCOS and lesbianism: wait, what?!” article and for PCOS in relation to intersex, look up “PCOS and intersex: a case for solidarity against the binary” article & “take the red pill: the truth behind the biology of sex” article 😊
She seems really interesting, I kinda wished someone had asked if she thought intersex people are inherently LGBT+ because from what I gather it's kind of a debate within the intersex community.
I feel like that’s probably something that’s more of a PERSONAL identification. Like maybe they don’t ALL feel like they’re a part of the community, but some do and should be able to identify as such
@@cnomi8447 yeah I figure the same but it would have been interesting to get her personal take on it . I'm in the asexual spectrum so it's also a thing for us (e.g i think we are inherently queer but if someone is heteromantic and doesn't want to identify as such then they don't have to but my take is that it's up to the individual as a whole and the non-ace or aro part of the community shouldn't gatekeep) . But in Queer spaces some intersex people don't like it when they're used as examples of there not being only 2 sexes etc I just think it's a whole thing that would be an interesting discussion that I wished someone had addressed.
@@cassielcruzchavolla809 Im pretty sure Im asexual, and I was really surprised when I first found out that that's considered under LGBT+ umbrella. I'm not a part of the community.
Gender is such a nuanced conversation. I remember watching faking it on MTV and there was a character Lauren who was intersex and she had to take pills and stuff. I agree with the stopping of nonconsensual surgery. They'll snip and stitch something because they don't know what they're doing. If I had a kid born with intermingled genetailia I'd just leave it and also have those discussions as early as possible. Edit: I know that sex and gender are 2 different things
For a lot of intersex people, our sex trait deviation has little or nothing to do with our gender. It's in the best interest of everyone not to confuse gender with biological sex.
JAHNI I am so beyond thrilled that you've had this opportunity to speak on your experience and bring such a brilliant light to the intersex community! Thank you for your time, your energy, and your presence!
I loved hearing Jahni speak, and loved this video. It was very educational for me. I have not been diagnosed with PCOS (i received sonograms when I was younger but had no cysts) but have symptoms like hirsutism and hormonal imbalances with my testosterone. I will admit hearing that PCOS is a debated topic in the intersex community made me a little nervous about what more I don't know in regards to my own body.
Omg same! I have symptoms of PCOS, but ultrasounds were healthy and did not show any cysts. Given not much is still known about the subject, I was told it could be psychological. Eg. I was always fearful of having children someday from an early age. So this fear would have been so deep rooted in my mind that my body accommodated to these fears by messing up the reproductive hormones in my body as a defence, so I was technically "protected". And I've noticed that during times in my life I've come close to overcoming that block, my symptoms had improved too ... So it makes me wonder... I'm curious, did you ever have any traumatic influence to make you not want children at any stage in your life? Or just anything really that might mean your condition is psychological and not physical?🤔
I am WAY TOO LATE. But if you read this, just wanted to ask if you know anything more about it? cuz I haven't found anyone with such a similar case to mine. Do you know if it matters at what age you have an ultrasound? I got ultrasound last year (I'm 16 now) and they didn't find any cyst. All my hormones were in normal range, except one which is just a tiny bit over the normal range. But I have irregular periods and hirsutism. So it's kinda verbally diagnosed as PCOD (not officially) but my gynecologist is not exactly sure what's going on
@@ot7apbp Hi, I went to a OBGYN finally when I had my own insurance (I'm 26) but at the time my period had been more regular and for the past 3 months I had been having it so my OBGYN was saying much of the problems I had were genetic. She told me she was practicing for many years and just looking at me she wouldn't say I had PCOS. I'm not sure if it matters at what age, but if you're having severe problems with it, it may be wise to get more sonograms later on over time. I also had high free testosterone, my insulin levels are a little iffy - but i take from my dad's side of the family so that makes sense to me genetically (as my aunts seem to have similar issues). I definitely have a lot of hair, but I now get laser hair removal and my tech also says she's seen people way worse than me. So honestly its hard to say - but my period has stopped again so I have to go back to my OBGYN. One thing I recommend is watching your diet - because when I was 16 I noticed that increasing veggies & drinking a lot of water helped regulate my system and my periods/acne became more normal. I would def research more about holistic methods.
What an eloquently-spoken young woman, very kind and willing to educate and answer questions even when dealing with offensive terminology. I finished this video knowing new things about intersex people, and I want to continue educating myself and challenging the perspectives of people who are either willfully or unintentionally ignorant. Thank you, Jubilee, and thank you, Jahni, for the lovely video!
I’m a fan of his. 😂 See him on Cut channel every now and then. He’s very knowledgeable about languages, although he’s not a linguist. He’s always fun to watch.
"Some doctors don't know what intersex means." What's going on with doctors?! We NEED to make them take exams at least once a year. I mean dude. I'm pretty sure the majority of the population know what intersex is. That's crazy.
Maybe in the US people know, but most of population of other countries don’t know what intersex is. They know what hermaphrodite is, which can be happen with humans but it’s really rare, and it’s about being born with one ovary and one testis, it’s not about a human being with both sets of genitalia, something that never happened on human race, but people think that people with both genitals exist lol
@@vanillamarshmallow Yes, they do, I’m a biologist so I can explain it much better than any other person. True Hermaphroditism (or Ovotesticular Disorder) is a disorder of sex development that makes one individual has one ovary, one testicle or a mix of both. It’s even possible for a person with Ovotesticular disorder but male genitalia ovulate, there’s a very interesting case on NCBI about it. What doesn’t exist is humans with both sets of genitals.
Jahni had a lovely open and welcoming energy. This was done in such a nice and supportive but informative way. As a little side note, there's a lot of talk in the comments about trans vs intersex identities. In my experience, I actually grew up knowing the term "hermaphrodite" first before I ever heard of transgender. When I was little, I felt so strongly that my gender was not aligned with my sex that I thought I must be intersex and I secretly felt my parents must have done a corrective surgery on me so I wouldn't know. I thought there had to be a biological reason why I felt so strongly different from my body. That was when I was really young like 6/7. I didn't learn about tramsgender until I was around 17. In the end, I don't know definitively that I'm not intersex (although no I never had any secret corrective surgery) it is interesting how the two intertwined for me. Obviously this is just one opinion/experience but it's interesting to hear the perspective thay she feels it's very different and separate from being trans.
i had to get my period chemically induced and grow more hair than my bf… it’s an insane identity trip and hearing your story really helped me understand every body is different… but the same haha. i love this video, very educational and respectful!!
"My whole childhood I have never used the bathroom at school." ... I am at a loss of words. That's psychological and physical torture to tell a kid they can't ever pee in a public restroom. Absolutely monstrous. WTF... yikes :(
I understand where you are coming from. There are many reasons why some people don’t like or want to use a public restroom. But I really don’t like the politicians trying to make laws about where Transgender or Intersex should go. This is basic to all human beings. To shame someone for something they can’t help is cruel and wrong.
My spouse was born intersex and only found out recently as it was hidden from him. His specific diagnosis is extremely rare with only a few hundred documented cases. It's definitely isolating. Even if we try to explain the situation, people don't seem able to grasp the concept. So he doesn't really talk about it.
Can we just appreciate what a soothing voice Jahni has 😭 She genuinely seems to have a passion for educating others in such calming and compassionate manner.
SO stinkin proud of Jahnie for always being so unapologetically themselves. We went to high school together and they have always had this confidence and I am SO glad it has never faded!!
one of my friends is intersex! I grew up in a christian area and so people always didn’t like them because they didn’t know it was biological so I would stand up for them, it is annoying because people say “there are only two genders” but even biologically there isn’t! Thanks for doing this video to help educate more people on this subject ❤
I remember I first first off intersex people from the show Chicago Med. There was a this little girl who came in and they found out she has testicles. The mom originally wanted them to get removed but then the doctors were able to convince her to keep them and let her child decide what they wants to identify with when they're older.
@@frankee6506 it’s an ovary disorder not a developmental dispersed so technically no but it’s open to interpretation I think since it causes androgens in females.
It's interesting to me especially because I've got it and I also have one great uncle and one great aunt who were intersex, so I know it runs in the family.
@@GummyBearRecords but like jahni said not all intersex people have male organs. intersex basically means you were born with some form of mutation/condition that fucks with sex-related traits
I have PCOS and I couldn’t imagine it being included in the intersex spectrum. From a phenotype perspective it only affects my fertility but fertility does not make or “break” a woman.
I have PCOS & believe it’s bigger than just having fertility problems for me personally at least cuz I know that everyone who has it could have some of the same or different symptoms. I’ve noticed some similarities to intersex (hormone imbalance, infertility issues, has to do w a reproductive organ/sex gland). I don’t have a regular period (can go for months without it), I grow hair on my upper lip not like a mustache but it’s noticeable (used to shave it but now I don’t), parts of my chest have some hair on them (used to tweeze them but not anymore) & doctor said I have higher levels of testosterone than your average woman. They gave me estrogen pills to balance hormone levels but I didn’t want to take them. I didn’t understand why that was something that needed to be fixed. I present mostly femme but there are days where I feel some discomfort & present more masc. I saw how there’s some evidence that having PCOS can affect sexuality & gender identity. I’m pansexual & also identify as a non-binary/genderqueer woman and use she/they pronouns. This is just my experience which can be similar to some but also completely different to others w PCOS & I fully agree that fertility isn’t what makes you a woman 😊
@@cydneyo1817 thanks for sharing your experience! I realize my experience with PCOS is very mild symptoms, no unexpected hair growth. I can see how many people with PCOS would feel accepted under an intersex umbrella 😊
@@MiVidaBellisima no prob :) thank you for being so nice cuz ik some people are really averse to even comparing PCOS to intersex but yea let’s say in the future if PCOS does become part of the intersex umbrella, people still don’t have to identify w it if you have milder symptoms (or even more severe ones) cuz you ultimately decide your own labels 😌
I knew I recognized Matthew! He is in many Cut videos like "guess what country I'm from" or "what language I speak?" He is so knowledgable and kind! I love that they both knew each other in High school and Middle school. Such a nice video and love Jahni's openness and energy.
@@yash.kapoor A lot of bullying, mostly because people don't understand it or just think that you're "Born trans" which is so far off base. Videos like this should help with teaching people.
Me too, people think we’re trans or some trans people try to use us as an argument for saying there’s more than 2 genders when there just isn’t I support the trans and rest of the lgbtqia community but we were born with a biological defect and we mainly choose to be with our more dominant quality as for mine I was more masculine and in the video she was more feminine developing breasts and feeling as such Sexuality is identity Trans is identity Intersex is gender/sex
@@parosmiastinks8962 yeah they're like "Ha, see? Binary isn't real, intersex people exist," without asking how we feel about it, because in actuality all of us still use umbrella terms like cis and trans to describe our gender. There has to clear concepts sex and gender, both for the comfort of intersex people to identify how they wish without use of the "technically" caveat, and for validation of trans people. Either sex=gender or sex=/=gender, you can't keep saying that one isn't dependent on the other then try to validate that they are, but only in the way you want. That keeps intersex folks, although confident in their identity, in perceptive limbo for dyadic people, and since trans activists have most of the say in identity discussions, we just get dragged by what they say whether we agree or not because people think our voices are the same.
@@parosmiastinks8962 agreed but i think most people mean to say that sex itself isn't binary either. and also sexuality is not identity, just like only being into brunettes isn't an Identity its just attraction
I identify as a trans women and I’ve worn that identity for about 10 years now. However, before starting my hormonal journey I was testing for hormone levels and I found that my testosterone levels were lower than normal and I had progesterone level akin to pregnant women. My doctor thought I was taking birth control as a form of home remedy hrt. Which I had never done those were my natural levels. It made me wonder if I could possible be under the intersex umbrella. Before transitioning I was very fem very little body hair, curvy body and I just thought I was lucky as a born male to get these traits but I’m finding that it could’ve been related to something more definitive. But I loved hearing her story. I do think trans and intersex does overlap but maybe that is not appropriate to say. But I’m a proud trans women and I’m ok with that title lol.
Thank you! For sharing your experiences and knowledge! I’m almost 60, PCOS, some hyperandrogenism. Intersex is the word that has made the most sense to me as an umbrella term because my experience has been about holding onto my existing bodymind. Thank you again 💛💜💛
I recently read an AMAZING book on this topic called "Ordinary Wonder" by Buki Papillon, a Nigerian author. The book focuses on an intersex narrator who was assigned male at birth despite her fervent desire to be female and belief that she is female. It is absolutely heart wrenching but so beautifully written and educational for those of us who may not know much about the intersex community and especially about how being intersex plays out in non-Western cultures.
I'm gay / asexual and know many trans people, but I've never knowingly met an intersex person before. It was nice to finally see some representation of this part of the LGBTQIA spectrum. They seem like such a positive, upbeat, confident person... someone who would be a fantastic role model for intersex youth.
yk im curious if it even counts as LGBT. i mean if they identify as queer/non-binary/etc they 100% are but like. i think this is one of those things where its not LGBT by default
Personally, i think PCOS and intersexuality are different because PCOS is a hormonal issue, not a chromosomal one. At least, based on my experience of having PCOS, I don't see the corelation because even with PCOS, you don't necessarily have to have high testosterone to be diagnosed with PCOS. So, it would be a little bit of a stretch to group them together. Also, I don't think labeling it to one umbrella would be helpful to both communities because then there would be a question of whether all hormonal disorders should be a part of the interex umbrella? If so, that would change the definition of intersex in the first place and would take away what that umbrella stands for. It would also need a whole medical revision if that change were to happen but that would need a lot of actual research and scientific evidence, so I don't think personal opinions/debates would be sufficient to make that change.
@@lilydrimm6626 well, the medical definition is "group of conditions in which there is a discrepancy between the external genitals and the internal genitals (the testes and ovaries)". Yes, the cause can be hormonal but it does not end at hormones. PCOS is completely different. Opinions/debates are one thing but basing a statement on that without having a scientific evidence is another.
These conversations are so important because literally not everyone's body is the same or completely black and white. Jahni is lovely, thank you for educating.
Love this video but I think it’s extremely harmful to try to connect Intersex and PCOS especially since Pcos is not a chromosomal disorder it’s a hormonal disorder that most women are diagnosed with after puberty.
The diversity in our genetic makeup is crazy and often overlooked for the sake of "simplefying" things- often to the detriment of certain individuals who are simply trying to find their best selves. I wish this kind of information was more openly available and more research goes into it. We still have a lot to learn about our humanness than we think.
I have PCOS & I’ve noticed some similarities to intersex (hormone imbalance, infertility issues, has to do w a reproductive organ/sex gland). I don’t have a regular period (can go for months without it), I grow hair on my upper lip not like a mustache but it’s noticeable (used to shave it but now I don’t), parts of my chest have some hair on them (used to tweeze them but not anymore) & doctor said I have higher levels of testosterone than your average woman. They gave me estrogen pills to balance hormone levels but I didn’t want to take them. I didn’t understand why that was something that needed to be fixed. I present mostly femme but there are days where I feel some discomfort & present more masc. I saw how there’s some evidence that having PCOS can affect sexuality & gender identity. I’m pansexual & also identify as a non-binary/genderqueer woman and use she/they pronouns. This is just my experience which can be similar to some but also completely different to others w PCOS 😊
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I absolutely loved this! Jahni was so natural in her explanation of intersex. I have been exploring videos about intersex because I am curious and accepting of the differences. It was something not talked about when I was younger. Almost like it didn’t exist and that the surgeries that were used to so call correct what was considered a defect are now considered wrong to be done without the person’s consent when they are infants, toddlers etc. We need to be more accepting of one another.
Mathew asked such wonderful questions (others did too of course) but I liked how their questions were posed in such a way that allowed Jahni to properly advocate and educated the general public on things like what societal changes do intersex people want/ what aspects of your life does it affect that is not obvious to people?
When I think about intersex it's someone with the following: Xxy chromosomes(klineflelter syndrome) Gynocomastia(caused by hormone imbalance) Hermaphroditism(both parts or partial development with both parts malformed/not developed fully) I don't consider trans people intersex unless they have one of the following traits "acquired naturally" That is because like male and female, intersex is a biological gender that represents people who develop traits of the opposite sex, its a term for multiple conditions
That’s totally wrong. People with Klinefelter still male because they’re XY, they just have one X more, so XXY. Gynecomastia isn’t intersex, it’s an abnormal grow of the breast tissue of a male (XY). Also, Hermaphroditism isn’t about having both intimate parts, it simply doesn’t exist on human nature. True hermaphroditism would be someone with both gonads (ovary and testes). True intersex is when the chromosomal sex isn’t congruent with phenotype. For example, Complete Androgen Insensitivity, when a male (XY) is born with female genitalia and internal testes (not functional). Intersex people still male or female.
We still don't know very much about how the brain works. It may turn out to be the case that transgender people are just intersex people with a brain which has developed as one sex and a body which had developed as the opposite sex.
@@CiaraOSullivan1990 It doesn’t exist. There’s no male or female brains. Intersex conditions are not about the brain, it’s about sex chromosomes, gonads and genitalia, nothing more. Transexuality is about the brain, it’s an abnormality just like Intersexuality but they’re two different things, since Intersexuality is something about your body that can be proven.
I remember learning about intersex through a documentary and watching listening to how those affected by non-consensual surgeries had to question their identity their whole life. Great to see this hitting the mainstream internet as a topic of discussion. Truly something most people aren’t aware of and need to be mindful of!
I love how they're so brave and open to being asked questions like this. These things can be sensitive. Being open about gender ambiguous is like coming out as trans. Wish we'd all be more respectful.
Wow this was incredibly educational! I am someone with PCOS, and I’ve always felt a little out of place bc of my jumble of female and masculine features. Finding out I could consider myself intersex just really lifted a lot of preconceived notions I’ve had, thank you for this video!
Don't worry, you are a beautiful woman in God's eyes, no matter what. You just weren't the luckiest with ovaries as millions of other women... You can embrace yourself as you are. And PCOS symptoms are treatable
I’m glad they’re representing all different types of people kids are young and need to be educated, even most adults don’t know this. Faking it an mtv show addressed this in 2014, it’s important we have understanding and awareness and love for all sorts of live
This video is so important. I have PCOS and am part of the LGBTQIA+ community, but I did not know what intersex was. Now I am discovering that I relate to it a lot.
Fantastic video, thank you Jahni for being so open. I'm not intersex but I am queer and I know it can be scary to be your real self because people might judge you. It's brave to just be you, especially online in front of millions. Being queer, intersex, trans, etc is never a mistake or something people should have to experience hardship for, gender and sexuality diversity is seen all over nature and should be celebrated in humans too.
It should be accepted and normalised. But my genuine concern is its not verifiable. So how does one put something on a certificate thats non verifiable. Or how does one organise society around it.
I remember in sex Ed they taught us that an estimated 2% of the population was intersex which really surprised me as I had never met anyone who was intersex.
The doctor was shocked when I didn’t want hormones for my PCOS. I’m totally ok with being hairy and having whack periods, the risks of taking said hormones are so scary and I’m comfy in my body, so why fight nature :) I never considered myself intersex, but it’s cool to hear I may be considered as such.
I'm 17 an gay and I was watching this and some of the thing they were saying resonated with me especially the hormones thing and I'm googling while watching the rest and they answer my question when they started talking about PCOS which I have, I'm female I was born female I g by she/her but I have to much testosterone (male hormone) which results in me growing a lot of hair on my face arms and legs and I'm always self conscious but this really helped
This world would be a much better place if we could all have a little bit more curiosity about one another and really work to understand and get to know each other. I love open conversations like these with respectful questions and dialogue because there is so much for all of us to learn. Wonderful video.
Just gotta say, I love stuff like this. It's so educational and respectful. It really helps being light to real people facing real challenges outside of the "norm." The world needs more of this so we can all understand each other better.
@@vanillamarshmallow I don't think people who believe they're different deny that they are super highly correlated. Sex is the biological part (chromosomes, so ur reproductive system, what your body will grow up to look like, etc) whilst gender is how you express yourself to the world (so it's more about societal values, roles, how you were raised) At least that's how I understand it?
@@vanillamarshmallow They are. Intersex people break even the binary expectation of biological sex being male/female. Intersex people aren’t really physically definable as “male” or “female.”
We still don't know very much about how the brain works. It may turn out to be the case that transgender people are just intersex people with a brain which has developed as one sex and a body which had developed as the opposite sex.
@@CiaraOSullivan1990 no such thing as trans. There has been no science to prove that so called trans people have different brains. In fact, there is science to prove that men who think they’re women still have a male brain.
I find it interesting that she wanted to wait until she was of age to “consent” If her parents did not intervene and “fix” the deformation would her quality of life been better? Or worse? What type of struggles would they have gone through?
I heard personally that people with intersex genetailia that get surgery as an infant are not happy with it. Theres definitely a variance in experience but i personally heard that my friends wished they could’ve chosen what they wanted.
i said this in another comment but one of the three main traits to diagnose a person with pcos is hyper-androgenism, hyper-androgenism is an intersex trait. you only need 2/3 of the traits to be considered to have pcos so not every person with pcos has that but many do.
I’m glad I watched this one. I know so little about Intersex people. I’m sure they’re in a small small minority but it’s still nice to be educated. I also love the idea of using the they/them pronoun and using a verb typically used for a singular noun. Example: “They is going to the store today”. I really hope they embrace this.
It would be "they're* going to the store" and if this is your first time hearing they/them used like this, I'm very surprised and it's not new. At least before being used as chosen pronouns, they were used when you were not identifying or didnt know the gender of the person. For example. "Someone knocked on the door. I waited for them to speak." "I thought I could be with them, but we were a bad pair"
it's so cute that Jahni and Mathew realized they knew eachother from highschool, I live for interactions like that
makes me wonder how small the town where they get these people is
I know that was a highlight and then the lil extra bit at the end! i hope they went out after and had a coffeee
@@paulwaltersheherfeministvl521 if youre sorry why did u do it. no one is going to click on your channel. stop being annoying
Ya they realized it only from names and voices! So cute!
it’s sweet but honestly this is just proof Jubilee needs to branch out and get representation from the rest of the country.
I had an intersex kid in my elementary school.
The conversations the kids had vs the adults were so different regarding them.
The teachers were not happy that they used both bathrooms and the kids were like “they are both so they use both”
Very true! Children aren’t born to hate, they learn to by the adults around them. Children are so much more accepting and eager to learn more.
That’s not possible, everybody (including intersex people) are male or female. Only X chromosomes, you’re female. Anything else makes you male. You might have an extra chromosome but you’re still male or female.
This sounds extremely creepy, this was likely a male (with Klinefelter syndrome) going into the girl’s bathroom.
@@humanbeeing4780 no it doesnt, sorry if you are insecure
This is how I hope it will become everywhere, as someone whose intersex there are some days its just safer for me to use one instead of the other but itd be nice if I didnt have to worry at all
This is so educational. For someone fairly ignorant to the topic thank you for taking this topic in such a sensitive and respectful way, it makes it comfortable to watch without cringing at people being disrespectful and rude. This was handled perfectly and Jahni was very open, honest and seemingly relaxed so it was nice to see her comfortable.
Educational for sure; I wasn't aware that pregnancy was an option for individuals with this condition. For some reason I'd taken onboard the idea that it went hand-in-hand with sterility; glad to know that's not always the case!
Yeah. It's was extremely interesting as well.
@@ShaunCheah Yeah, that's usually how baseless assumptions work... No offense. It's just frustrating.
@@ustanchy869 Okay but why do u have to do rude?
@@ShaunCheah Intersex isn't a single medical condition with one underlying cause. It's a term to referring to anyone with atypical sex characteristics and the cause can stem from abnormal chromosomes, wonky hormones, and/or atypical genital configuration. There's no blanket manifestation of how it presents and what it means for the person who is intersex. A lot depends on the underlying cause.
glad she mentioned waiting till age of consent then discussing a vaginoplasty. bc we really shouldn't make this rash decision for a child then their physical appearance may look like the opposite of their sex or identity crises happen. this video was so fun and insightful
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Not all vaginoplasties are cosmetic. It seems there's a blanket statement about this issue and thats simply false. This fact should not negate the 'if it's cosmetic' conversation.
@@gillianmurphy2111 i feel like that was very clearly said in the video. Only if it's purely cosmetic, they should wait untill consent age.
@@gillianmurphy2111 they discussed this
Hormones are approved by every major medical association for treatment for gender dysphoria in trans kids and trans teens
As someone who is intersex, thank you for making this video and bringing awareness to this topic. You have no idea the amount of times the topic of gender/sex comes up and I say I’m intersex and someone goes “Huh what is that?”
@@jkinghiphop I don't really see why trans people would have a problem with that
which is weird cuz intersex is more well known than transgender ever was.
I legit told a guy I had an intersex friend and he said "I don't believe intersex is real, sounds like something white people invented" (guy was black)
May I ask, what’s your chromosome order? I mean is it XX or XY? (sorry i’m not from an english speaking country but I guess you got what I meant)
@@g.3521 I could see one reason - intersex is a physical, medical thing. Like it can be seen and observed, whereas trans people it is entirely communicated by the individual. Nothing on their body as they were naturally born (that we know of) can signal they are trans.
I love how kind and open these people are, i wish there were more respectful people in the world like this.
I wish that too. It was beautiful to see ❤
@@RainWalking They said "Kind and open", not "knowing each other".
@@seveera Yea the original comment acts like there is not many respectful people, when they are.
@@RainWalking yet there's still lots of disrespectful people. So having more respectful people would indeed be nice.
@@RainWalking seems like you need to stop living in a bubble
I’m soo glad you all did this. Intersex individuals rarely get representation. Well done 🎉
cuz transgender people co-opted it and try to act like it's the same thing. they completely ignore the fact intersex peopel are born that way, while transpeople are just those who arent comfortable with their biological sex
@@The88Cheat eh, kinda
@@The88Cheat so what?
@@The88Cheat That doesn’t mean they don’t deserve representation, this is an excuse that has been used several times for many different minorities, it’s a form of bigotry, red heads are over represented in the media but no one talks about that, everyone deserves to be represented no matter what😊
@@The88Cheat not true; rare, but prevalence of intersex is about the same as redheads
My friend has male genitalia but a uterus. Her parents never told her and socialized her as a boy. She has now transitioned to a female after discovering. I completely agree children should be told and have the ability to choose for themselves
it's nice to hear somene that actually has a legit reason to transition
@@MsDudette21 If you had any idea of the emotional distress and fear that trans people deal with daily you would shut it real quick.
@@MsDudette21 ?
@@MsDudette21 and what's an illegitimate reason to transition in your mind
@@animposter4971 anything except for gender dysphoria and being intersex.
I am so grateful for educational videos like this!! I took a sociology of gender class in college (taught by a non-binary prof and with transgender guest speakers) and the first couple of weeks, we spent focusing on learning gender vs. sex. I knew intersex people existed but I thought it just meant both genitalia but that is not the case at all. I also learned in that class that nearly 2% of the world population is estimated to be intersex. Much more common than people think. As someone studying to be a therapist (start having clients in a couple months!), I am so grateful I took classes like sociology of gender so I can be understanding of *all* of my clients. I want my practice to be truly inclusive and not just *seem* inclusive based on my options for gender or sex in the forms that I have in my office, as they mentioned in the video. Loved this video and how knowledgeable they were about their community!!
Update: I got my dream internship and will be working with college students! Such an emotional time both sexuality and gender-wise for so many people and I’m honored to be brought along for their journey.
well considering that a a clit larger by a few mm or a urethra that's lower on a boy is considered as intersex its not rly surprising,,
As an intersex person myself I believe that estimation is also incorrect and I do support the transgender community but the truth is they have nothing to do with intersex, intersex is used as a scapegoat for a lot of trans arguments and it’s incomparable since
Intersex is gender/sex biologically and trans is just identity
She talks about this at 9:40
Sexuality is Identity
Trans is Identity
Intersex is Gender/Sex
What is your pronouns
Repectfully I hope none of my children are part of that 0.1 - 2%
@@yoyoyiggityyo17 Nobody would want their children to be born with a disorder. I’m intersex and it’s a disorder and can have major effects on our health and life.
Intersex is comparable to being born blind, extra limbs or any other physical disorder you can think of.
Love the energy! So trippy when you come onto the show expecting to talk to a stranger and it's someone you knew from middle and high school. Everyone was so kind and definitely enjoyed listening so openly to another's experience
I didnt know that “hermaphrodite” was a negative word. Thats the only way I knew how to describe intersex people. I wont be using that term anmore. Ive learned a lot from this video and hope to hear more intersex people speak on their experiences and thoughts in the future!
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I never really thought about using it for people,to me it was always a term used for animals such as snails, goats...
@@klarabarunovic9841 I grew up in the rural southern us so theres a lot of terms Ive learned from people around me I am unlearning
I think it's similar to the way men using the word "females" to refer to women is seen as derogatory since they're both words that are commonly used to refer to animals so it feels dehumanizing. (I'm not intersex though so that's just my best guess, I could be wrong)
it's not
As someone who was born with Partial Androgen Insensitivity "Syndrome" (Just like Jahni) but with different experiences. I am so so happy yall did this. If anyone has any additional questions please ask! I love sharing and educating on the internet haha
What’s the diff btwn you and Jahni?
I was just wondering why the word "syndrome" is disliked? I also have a condition that ends with syndrome (not intersex related) and I never tought about twice, for me it was just part of the name nothing more. Maybe it's a language thing, since I don't speak English on a day to day basis?
@@_Marije_ I dont have a hugeee problem with it but saying its a "syndrome", or I've heard some people say a disorder, makes me feel like there's an issue or problem. Which medically there is but there isn't a real "problem" with me or anyone else yk? It doesn't really effect my day to day life in that way. Some people are bothered by it some arent
How did you figure that out? Took hormone tests?
Thats speaking about my specific intersex variation^^ Some people don't find out until they are trying to have kids or some don't ever really figure it out. As mentioned in the video, intersex is a very very broad term so everyone finds out a little differently
As an intersex person myself I enjoyed this video. She really understands since she is intersex and is really nice to all communities.
I totally agree with 9:40 where transgender has to do with identity and not gender/sex
You don’t understand the amount of times people of the trans community try to compare themselves or use intersex as a scapegoat
I love that this new age we can accept peoples identities but please don’t use something that mostly cripples our biological effectiveness to your advantage
There’s a difference between biology and identity and once we all accept each other and once more communities are spoken for instead of just including us in the LGBTQIA we need actual representation like she said. 🏳️🌈❤
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I have friends with older kids (teen-YA) who are intersex and have often wondered how many trans people may actually be intersex, especially with chromosome differences that may never be tested for. Any insight into that appreciated. I would rather never assume anything that might hurt someone.
@@victoriadelano6 I have a friend who’s trans and is intersex, intersex is rare some people estimate it to 2% of the population.
I would say there’s some intersex people who identify as trans after their parents or doctors chose their gender for them.
This is why consent is so important and I would advocate that nothing should be done without consent unless it’s a medical emergency or has to be done before the consenting age.
Since it’s rare there’s not going to be that many trans people are intersex or vice versa.
I identify as a male though I was lucky enough to feel comfortable enough and didn’t have a tremendous amount of unwanted hormonal effects growing up
Every intersex person is different and there can be major health downsides depending on how the severity of it
Being that there’s 2% intersex and 5% trans/non-binary in the population it would be even an overall smaller amount of intersex people presenting as trans
@@parosmiastinks8962 for me as someone not in either community but who cares about people in both, I just don’t ever want to make assumptions. I know several older teens/young adults who did not have chromosome testing to discover they were intersex until they were adults or have yet to have it due to parental beliefs that there is no such thing. My concern is that some trans people may never even know if they have biologic differences bc of the circumstances and lack of knowledgeable medical care. At the end of the day for me as an outsider, I do think the best thing I can do is educate that people come with all kinds of wonderful differences and that no laws and policies should be oppressing either group.
Transgender HAS EVERYTHING to do with gender, that should be obvious, since that’s where the name comes from. Sex is a completely different thing. Gender is socially constructed meanwhile sex is what you are assigned at birth.
The only thing I would feel comfortable asking is “what do you want me to understand about you?”
It's wild to see how little people know about being intersex. I learned about it in ninth grade biology in the chromosomes chapter. I appreciate that my teacher introduced us to it because most avoid it due to it's connection to queerness. She showed her class that not only is gender nonbinary, so is sex.
@Caitlyn Carvalho No.
@Caitlyn Carvalho That's just a different experience than being born intersex. I don't understand the push nowadays to lump groups of people together but it's not helpful.
@Caitlyn Carvalho how tf would I know? why are you asking me? This is so weird.
Jahni is one of the sweetest people I know. My fondest memory of her was in my freshman year when I felt lonely and isolated, and they held space for me, it was heartwarming at a time when I felt so alone. 💚
You were very kind and patient in correcting the person who brought up the term "hermaphrodite." 💜
Yes she was. I’m sure she understood that no harm was intended. Intent makes all the difference.
I'm sorry to ask this I'm not familiar with the term Hermaphrodit and why is it wrong or a slur as she said
@@user-hana777 "Hermaphrodite" is a term attributed to animals with both male and female genitalia. So to use the term for a person is seen as dehumanizing.
@@ultimavioletb1599 thanks for explaining! I will keep it in mind
@@ultimavioletb1599 im sorry but we are animals. A animal who likes the same sex is still called a homosexual
I find it interesting when Jahni talked about PCOS and intersex. I have PCOS and I still look and feel like a woman. However, there are some things that makes me feel more manly. For example, I have a very thick and tight skin, I put on muscles very easily, etc. When I compare my body with my mum I always feel weirded out a bit cause her skin's so soft and smooth whereas mine is thick and coarse. I dunno how to explain this tbh.
I have PCOS too & found it interesting as well! I don’t have a regular period (can go for months without it), possible problems w infertility & hormones. I grow hair on my upper lip not like a mustache or anything but it’s noticeable (used to shave it but now I don’t), parts of my chest have some hair on them (used to tweeze them but not anymore) & doctor said I have higher levels of testosterone than your average woman. They gave me estrogen pills to balance hormone levels but I didn’t want to take them. I didn’t understand why that was something that needed to be fixed. I present mostly femme but there are days where I feel some discomfort & present more masc. I saw how there’s some evidence that having PCOS can affect sexuality & gender identity and have wondered in the past if I didn’t have it would life be different but I’ve learned to embrace it. I’m pansexual & also identify as a non-binary/genderqueer woman and I’m happy 😊
@@cydneyo1817 I am happy for you that you're comfortable with your sexuality and gender identity. My doctor also told me that I have a "masculine" forehead, although I dunno what that is. And yes we women with PCOS produce high testosterone that's why we are like this. I know I am a woman deep inside so never faced any confusion about my gender identity. My doctor suggested me hormonal treatments but I didn't opt for it. But the irregular periods can be a hassle. Btw can you suggest me the link of the documents where you learned about PCOS and how it affects our sexuality and gender identity? I have been searching for some evidences now.
@@mimi19932 IDK why it keeps deleting my comment so imma try to do it in separate parts but yeah I am happy that you’re confident in your identity as a woman as you should be don’t let anyone tell or make you feel different your identity is yours and yours alone ❤️ I think that’s why PCOS and intersex is so heavily debated because not everyone has the same symptoms and just because I feel a certain way and it makes sense to me doesn’t mean that everyone that has the same symptoms as me has to feel that way too and for others w different symptoms it doesn’t even make sense at all so I totally get it!
I’m sorry but I literally tried so many times and it won’t let me post the comment I think it’s just getting flagged for spam because there’s five different links, every time I refresh my comment is gone it’s so annoying 🤷🏽♀️ For gender and PCOS, look up “psychological gender of patients with polycystic ovary syndrome” study, for PCOS and sexuality look up “Prevalence of polycystic ovaries and polycystic ovary syndrome in lesbian woman compared to heterosexual women” study & “the link between PCOS and lesbianism: wait, what?!” article and for PCOS in relation to intersex, look up “PCOS and intersex: a case for solidarity against the binary” article & “take the red pill: the truth behind the biology of sex” article 😊
@@cydneyo1817 Thanks a lot 😊
love that jubilee is talking about intersex, way too many people don’t even know what it is and assume it’s the same as trans lmaooo
She seems really interesting, I kinda wished someone had asked if she thought intersex people are inherently LGBT+ because from what I gather it's kind of a debate within the intersex community.
I feel like that’s probably something that’s more of a PERSONAL identification. Like maybe they don’t ALL feel like they’re a part of the community, but some do and should be able to identify as such
@@cnomi8447 yeah I figure the same but it would have been interesting to get her personal take on it . I'm in the asexual spectrum so it's also a thing for us (e.g i think we are inherently queer but if someone is heteromantic and doesn't want to identify as such then they don't have to but my take is that it's up to the individual as a whole and the non-ace or aro part of the community shouldn't gatekeep) . But in Queer spaces some intersex people don't like it when they're used as examples of there not being only 2 sexes etc I just think it's a whole thing that would be an interesting discussion that I wished someone had addressed.
I am intersex and I don't feel like a part of LGBT+ community.
They are part of it if they want to be its up to them but theyre the i in LGBTQiA🌈
@@cassielcruzchavolla809 Im pretty sure Im asexual, and I was really surprised when I first found out that that's considered under LGBT+ umbrella. I'm not a part of the community.
Gender is such a nuanced conversation. I remember watching faking it on MTV and there was a character Lauren who was intersex and she had to take pills and stuff.
I agree with the stopping of nonconsensual surgery. They'll snip and stitch something because they don't know what they're doing. If I had a kid born with intermingled genetailia I'd just leave it and also have those discussions as early as possible.
Edit: I know that sex and gender are 2 different things
Sometimes the parents don't even know that their child is getting surgery
For a lot of intersex people, our sex trait deviation has little or nothing to do with our gender. It's in the best interest of everyone not to confuse gender with biological sex.
Yes! I loved that show. That's where I learned about intersex people.
it's literally a deformity stop treating it like it's this whole gender thing
Intersex isn’t about gender; it’s about one’s sex. Two different things.
i saw the title n had to watch, i’ve been so curious to hear about people’s real life experiences
JAHNI I am so beyond thrilled that you've had this opportunity to speak on your experience and bring such a brilliant light to the intersex community! Thank you for your time, your energy, and your presence!
I loved hearing Jahni speak, and loved this video. It was very educational for me. I have not been diagnosed with PCOS (i received sonograms when I was younger but had no cysts) but have symptoms like hirsutism and hormonal imbalances with my testosterone. I will admit hearing that PCOS is a debated topic in the intersex community made me a little nervous about what more I don't know in regards to my own body.
Omg same! I have symptoms of PCOS, but ultrasounds were healthy and did not show any cysts. Given not much is still known about the subject, I was told it could be psychological. Eg. I was always fearful of having children someday from an early age. So this fear would have been so deep rooted in my mind that my body accommodated to these fears by messing up the reproductive hormones in my body as a defence, so I was technically "protected". And I've noticed that during times in my life I've come close to overcoming that block, my symptoms had improved too ... So it makes me wonder...
I'm curious, did you ever have any traumatic influence to make you not want children at any stage in your life? Or just anything really that might mean your condition is psychological and not physical?🤔
I am WAY TOO LATE. But if you read this, just wanted to ask if you know anything more about it? cuz I haven't found anyone with such a similar case to mine. Do you know if it matters at what age you have an ultrasound? I got ultrasound last year (I'm 16 now) and they didn't find any cyst. All my hormones were in normal range, except one which is just a tiny bit over the normal range. But I have irregular periods and hirsutism. So it's kinda verbally diagnosed as PCOD (not officially) but my gynecologist is not exactly sure what's going on
@@ot7apbp Hi, I went to a OBGYN finally when I had my own insurance (I'm 26) but at the time my period had been more regular and for the past 3 months I had been having it so my OBGYN was saying much of the problems I had were genetic. She told me she was practicing for many years and just looking at me she wouldn't say I had PCOS. I'm not sure if it matters at what age, but if you're having severe problems with it, it may be wise to get more sonograms later on over time. I also had high free testosterone, my insulin levels are a little iffy - but i take from my dad's side of the family so that makes sense to me genetically (as my aunts seem to have similar issues). I definitely have a lot of hair, but I now get laser hair removal and my tech also says she's seen people way worse than me. So honestly its hard to say - but my period has stopped again so I have to go back to my OBGYN. One thing I recommend is watching your diet - because when I was 16 I noticed that increasing veggies & drinking a lot of water helped regulate my system and my periods/acne became more normal. I would def research more about holistic methods.
What an eloquently-spoken young woman, very kind and willing to educate and answer questions even when dealing with offensive terminology. I finished this video knowing new things about intersex people, and I want to continue educating myself and challenging the perspectives of people who are either willfully or unintentionally ignorant. Thank you, Jubilee, and thank you, Jahni, for the lovely video!
I love the kinda nerdy redhead dude. He’s just an open , kind guy. Love seeing him in the videos
I’m a fan of his. 😂 See him on Cut channel every now and then. He’s very knowledgeable about languages, although he’s not a linguist. He’s always fun to watch.
Well golly, thanks y’all! I really appreciate it ❤
@@MatthewBofenkamp be taking over TH-cam. The question has to be asked. Cut or Jubilee? 👀
@@MatthewBofenkamp are u single asking for a friend x
"Some doctors don't know what intersex means." What's going on with doctors?! We NEED to make them take exams at least once a year. I mean dude. I'm pretty sure the majority of the population know what intersex is. That's crazy.
Maybe in the US people know, but most of population of other countries don’t know what intersex is. They know what hermaphrodite is, which can be happen with humans but it’s really rare, and it’s about being born with one ovary and one testis, it’s not about a human being with both sets of genitalia, something that never happened on human race, but people think that people with both genitals exist lol
@@Tanya-rh9vjhermaphrodites do not happen in humans.
@@vanillamarshmallow Yes, they do, I’m a biologist so I can explain it much better than any other person.
True Hermaphroditism (or Ovotesticular Disorder) is a disorder of sex development that makes one individual has one ovary, one testicle or a mix of both. It’s even possible for a person with Ovotesticular disorder but male genitalia ovulate, there’s a very interesting case on NCBI about it.
What doesn’t exist is humans with both sets of genitals.
@@Tanya-rh9vjthat’s not hermaphroditism.
@@vanillamarshmallow yes, it is, True Hermaphroditism is when an individual has two gonads of both sexes, which define sex.
Go study Biology
Jahni had a lovely open and welcoming energy. This was done in such a nice and supportive but informative way.
As a little side note, there's a lot of talk in the comments about trans vs intersex identities. In my experience, I actually grew up knowing the term "hermaphrodite" first before I ever heard of transgender. When I was little, I felt so strongly that my gender was not aligned with my sex that I thought I must be intersex and I secretly felt my parents must have done a corrective surgery on me so I wouldn't know. I thought there had to be a biological reason why I felt so strongly different from my body. That was when I was really young like 6/7. I didn't learn about tramsgender until I was around 17. In the end, I don't know definitively that I'm not intersex (although no I never had any secret corrective surgery) it is interesting how the two intertwined for me. Obviously this is just one opinion/experience but it's interesting to hear the perspective thay she feels it's very different and separate from being trans.
i had to get my period chemically induced and grow more hair than my bf… it’s an insane identity trip and hearing your story really helped me understand every body is different… but the same haha. i love this video, very educational and respectful!!
"My whole childhood I have never used the bathroom at school." ... I am at a loss of words. That's psychological and physical torture to tell a kid they can't ever pee in a public restroom. Absolutely monstrous. WTF... yikes :(
It didn't sound like that at all - it sounded like it was their own choice.
I understand where you are coming from. There are many reasons why some people don’t like or want to use a public restroom. But I really don’t like the politicians trying to make laws about where Transgender or Intersex should go. This is basic to all human beings. To shame someone for something they can’t help is cruel and wrong.
My spouse was born intersex and only found out recently as it was hidden from him. His specific diagnosis is extremely rare with only a few hundred documented cases. It's definitely isolating. Even if we try to explain the situation, people don't seem able to grasp the concept. So he doesn't really talk about it.
Like the woman on House?
Was he a normal dude before you guys knowing he was intersex?
@@Yasi_nzi yes pretty much. Maybe more sensitive than a typical guy, but still with a lot of masculine leaning interests.
@@melissab3217 Oh ok that’s pretty amazing! So just keep it to yourselves.. why bother explaining to anyone?
Can he have children ? Or it is impossible ??
Can we just appreciate what a soothing voice Jahni has 😭 She genuinely seems to have a passion for educating others in such calming and compassionate manner.
Genetics is so cool! I'm glad they are willing to be so open about their undeniable existence!
SO stinkin proud of Jahnie for always being so unapologetically themselves. We went to high school together and they have always had this confidence and I am SO glad it has never faded!!
one of my friends is intersex! I grew up in a christian area and so people always didn’t like them because they didn’t know it was biological so I would stand up for them, it is annoying because people say “there are only two genders” but even biologically there isn’t! Thanks for doing this video to help educate more people on this subject ❤
I remember I first first off intersex people from the show Chicago Med. There was a this little girl who came in and they found out she has testicles. The mom originally wanted them to get removed but then the doctors were able to convince her to keep them and let her child decide what they wants to identify with when they're older.
It's very eye opening to hear that PCOS could possibly be considered an intersex trait
id say its not tbh
@@frankee6506 it’s an ovary disorder not a developmental dispersed so technically no but it’s open to interpretation I think since it causes androgens in females.
It's interesting to me especially because I've got it and I also have one great uncle and one great aunt who were intersex, so I know it runs in the family.
Not really , women how have it dont have it dont have male organs
@@GummyBearRecords but like jahni said not all intersex people have male organs. intersex basically means you were born with some form of mutation/condition that fucks with sex-related traits
I have PCOS and I couldn’t imagine it being included in the intersex spectrum. From a phenotype perspective it only affects my fertility but fertility does not make or “break” a woman.
Yea felt like that was a huge stretch on her end. She's gonna have to back that up with some research that it is related to being intersex...
I agree
I have PCOS & believe it’s bigger than just having fertility problems for me personally at least cuz I know that everyone who has it could have some of the same or different symptoms. I’ve noticed some similarities to intersex (hormone imbalance, infertility issues, has to do w a reproductive organ/sex gland). I don’t have a regular period (can go for months without it), I grow hair on my upper lip not like a mustache but it’s noticeable (used to shave it but now I don’t), parts of my chest have some hair on them (used to tweeze them but not anymore) & doctor said I have higher levels of testosterone than your average woman. They gave me estrogen pills to balance hormone levels but I didn’t want to take them. I didn’t understand why that was something that needed to be fixed. I present mostly femme but there are days where I feel some discomfort & present more masc. I saw how there’s some evidence that having PCOS can affect sexuality & gender identity. I’m pansexual & also identify as a non-binary/genderqueer woman and use she/they pronouns. This is just my experience which can be similar to some but also completely different to others w PCOS & I fully agree that fertility isn’t what makes you a woman 😊
@@cydneyo1817 thanks for sharing your experience! I realize my experience with PCOS is very mild symptoms, no unexpected hair growth. I can see how many people with PCOS would feel accepted under an intersex umbrella 😊
@@MiVidaBellisima no prob :) thank you for being so nice cuz ik some people are really averse to even comparing PCOS to intersex but yea let’s say in the future if PCOS does become part of the intersex umbrella, people still don’t have to identify w it if you have milder symptoms (or even more severe ones) cuz you ultimately decide your own labels 😌
I knew I recognized Matthew! He is in many Cut videos like "guess what country I'm from" or "what language I speak?" He is so knowledgable and kind! I love that they both knew each other in High school and Middle school. Such a nice video and love Jahni's openness and energy.
I'm intersex too. Love to see this. I was born with XXY.
If you don't mind sharing, what's it been like?
@@yash.kapoor A lot of bullying, mostly because people don't understand it or just think that you're "Born trans" which is so far off base. Videos like this should help with teaching people.
Me too, people think we’re trans or some trans people try to use us as an argument for saying there’s more than 2 genders when there just isn’t
I support the trans and rest of the lgbtqia community but we were born with a biological defect and we mainly choose to be with our more dominant quality as for mine I was more masculine and in the video she was more feminine developing breasts and feeling as such
Sexuality is identity
Trans is identity
Intersex is gender/sex
@@parosmiastinks8962 yeah they're like "Ha, see? Binary isn't real, intersex people exist," without asking how we feel about it, because in actuality all of us still use umbrella terms like cis and trans to describe our gender. There has to clear concepts sex and gender, both for the comfort of intersex people to identify how they wish without use of the "technically" caveat, and for validation of trans people. Either sex=gender or sex=/=gender, you can't keep saying that one isn't dependent on the other then try to validate that they are, but only in the way you want. That keeps intersex folks, although confident in their identity, in perceptive limbo for dyadic people, and since trans activists have most of the say in identity discussions, we just get dragged by what they say whether we agree or not because people think our voices are the same.
@@parosmiastinks8962 agreed but i think most people mean to say that sex itself isn't binary either. and also sexuality is not identity, just like only being into brunettes isn't an Identity its just attraction
I identify as a trans women and I’ve worn that identity for about 10 years now. However, before starting my hormonal journey I was testing for hormone levels and I found that my testosterone levels were lower than normal and I had progesterone level akin to pregnant women. My doctor thought I was taking birth control as a form of home remedy hrt. Which I had never done those were my natural levels. It made me wonder if I could possible be under the intersex umbrella. Before transitioning I was very fem very little body hair, curvy body and I just thought I was lucky as a born male to get these traits but I’m finding that it could’ve been related to something more definitive. But I loved hearing her story. I do think trans and intersex does overlap but maybe that is not appropriate to say. But I’m a proud trans women and I’m ok with that title lol.
Thank you! For sharing your experiences and knowledge!
I’m almost 60, PCOS, some hyperandrogenism. Intersex is the word that has made the most sense to me as an umbrella term because my experience has been about holding onto my existing bodymind. Thank you again 💛💜💛
I recently read an AMAZING book on this topic called "Ordinary Wonder" by Buki Papillon, a Nigerian author. The book focuses on an intersex narrator who was assigned male at birth despite her fervent desire to be female and belief that she is female. It is absolutely heart wrenching but so beautifully written and educational for those of us who may not know much about the intersex community and especially about how being intersex plays out in non-Western cultures.
I'm gay / asexual and know many trans people, but I've never knowingly met an intersex person before. It was nice to finally see some representation of this part of the LGBTQIA spectrum. They seem like such a positive, upbeat, confident person... someone who would be a fantastic role model for intersex youth.
Yooo ace squad
@@baggedbread *insert elaborate super secret ace high five sequence here*
@@vorpal22 yess lmao
yk im curious if it even counts as LGBT. i mean if they identify as queer/non-binary/etc they 100% are but like. i think this is one of those things where its not LGBT by default
@@thatgaylibertarian4518 I mean they say LGBTQIA for a reason…The I is in there for a reason. Though it does bring you to wonder…
Personally, i think PCOS and intersexuality are different because PCOS is a hormonal issue, not a chromosomal one. At least, based on my experience of having PCOS, I don't see the corelation because even with PCOS, you don't necessarily have to have high testosterone to be diagnosed with PCOS. So, it would be a little bit of a stretch to group them together. Also, I don't think labeling it to one umbrella would be helpful to both communities because then there would be a question of whether all hormonal disorders should be a part of the interex umbrella? If so, that would change the definition of intersex in the first place and would take away what that umbrella stands for. It would also need a whole medical revision if that change were to happen but that would need a lot of actual research and scientific evidence, so I don't think personal opinions/debates would be sufficient to make that change.
intersex is about hormones too
@@lilydrimm6626 well, the medical definition is "group of conditions in which there is a discrepancy between the external genitals and the internal genitals (the testes and ovaries)". Yes, the cause can be hormonal but it does not end at hormones. PCOS is completely different. Opinions/debates are one thing but basing a statement on that without having a scientific evidence is another.
These conversations are so important because literally not everyone's body is the same or completely black and white. Jahni is lovely, thank you for educating.
Love this video but I think it’s extremely harmful to try to connect Intersex and PCOS especially since Pcos is not a chromosomal disorder it’s a hormonal disorder that most women are diagnosed with after puberty.
ITS TRAIT. how people dont understand what word trait is
The diversity in our genetic makeup is crazy and often overlooked for the sake of "simplefying" things- often to the detriment of certain individuals who are simply trying to find their best selves. I wish this kind of information was more openly available and more research goes into it. We still have a lot to learn about our humanness than we think.
I have PCOS & I’ve noticed some similarities to intersex (hormone imbalance, infertility issues, has to do w a reproductive organ/sex gland). I don’t have a regular period (can go for months without it), I grow hair on my upper lip not like a mustache but it’s noticeable (used to shave it but now I don’t), parts of my chest have some hair on them (used to tweeze them but not anymore) & doctor said I have higher levels of testosterone than your average woman. They gave me estrogen pills to balance hormone levels but I didn’t want to take them. I didn’t understand why that was something that needed to be fixed. I present mostly femme but there are days where I feel some discomfort & present more masc. I saw how there’s some evidence that having PCOS can affect sexuality & gender identity. I’m pansexual & also identify as a non-binary/genderqueer woman and use she/they pronouns. This is just my experience which can be similar to some but also completely different to others w PCOS 😊
yeah this is actually pretty cool beacause if you think about it is very interesting thru the fact that my surname starts with a d just like in the movie daidalos slime village 7352881001082702603016620302+2+2
I absolutely loved this! Jahni was so natural in her explanation of intersex. I have been exploring videos about intersex because I am curious and accepting of the differences. It was something not talked about when I was younger. Almost like it didn’t exist and that the surgeries that were used to so call correct what was considered a defect are now considered wrong to be done without the person’s consent when they are infants, toddlers etc. We need to be more accepting of one another.
Mathew asked such wonderful questions (others did too of course) but I liked how their questions were posed in such a way that allowed Jahni to properly advocate and educated the general public on things like what societal changes do intersex people want/ what aspects of your life does it affect that is not obvious to people?
Jahni has great communication skills. She would make an amazing counselor. I love her.
I relate when they say their attracted to masculine energy and not men specifically! I love that cause same
When I think about intersex it's someone with the following:
Xxy chromosomes(klineflelter syndrome)
Gynocomastia(caused by hormone imbalance)
Hermaphroditism(both parts or partial development with both parts malformed/not developed fully)
I don't consider trans people intersex unless they have one of the following traits "acquired naturally"
That is because like male and female, intersex is a biological gender that represents people who develop traits of the opposite sex, its a term for multiple conditions
That’s totally wrong.
People with Klinefelter still male because they’re XY, they just have one X more, so XXY.
Gynecomastia isn’t intersex, it’s an abnormal grow of the breast tissue of a male (XY).
Also, Hermaphroditism isn’t about having both intimate parts, it simply doesn’t exist on human nature. True hermaphroditism would be someone with both gonads (ovary and testes).
True intersex is when the chromosomal sex isn’t congruent with phenotype. For example, Complete Androgen Insensitivity, when a male (XY) is born with female genitalia and internal testes (not functional).
Intersex people still male or female.
We still don't know very much about how the brain works. It may turn out to be the case that transgender people are just intersex people with a brain which has developed as one sex and a body which had developed as the opposite sex.
@@CiaraOSullivan1990 It doesn’t exist. There’s no male or female brains. Intersex conditions are not about the brain, it’s about sex chromosomes, gonads and genitalia, nothing more.
Transexuality is about the brain, it’s an abnormality just like Intersexuality but they’re two different things, since Intersexuality is something about your body that can be proven.
Jahnj's personality is so charming.
And people say intersex doesn’t exist
They do but people call it Hermaphrodite
That's what trans people achieve through surgery
@@KaliBear_ yup and she's explained it's a slur
@@ihaveadegreeinmemes6377 why do you guys just wake up and decide that everything is a slur
@@huracan360 bro did u watch the video
I remember learning about intersex through a documentary and watching listening to how those affected by non-consensual surgeries had to question their identity their whole life. Great to see this hitting the mainstream internet as a topic of discussion. Truly something most people aren’t aware of and need to be mindful of!
It’s really cool seeing people be able to show who they are safely and letting us have these awesome dialogues!
I love how they're so brave and open to being asked questions like this. These things can be sensitive.
Being open about gender ambiguous is like coming out as trans. Wish we'd all be more respectful.
Thank you Jahni for sharing this with us and educating us!
This is super enlightening, thx for the great content!
U haven’t even watched it yet bro
@@blutoo2155 fr people just make comments like this for likes
THANK YOU! For being so open to answer these intimate questions. Just such strength. ❤
she seems so happy, such a cool and strong person
this is amazing 💕 intersex deserves way more recognition and education
love every time matthew is in an episode
Thank you Jahni 🙌🫶 your voice is powerful
Wow this was incredibly educational! I am someone with PCOS, and I’ve always felt a little out of place bc of my jumble of female and masculine features. Finding out I could consider myself intersex just really lifted a lot of preconceived notions I’ve had, thank you for this video!
I highly doubt most women who have pcos are intersected. Only way to know is to see if you have xx or xy chromosome
@@daniburke9452 this is completely incorrect. Chromosomes aren’t the only form of being intersex
Don't worry, you are a beautiful woman in God's eyes, no matter what. You just weren't the luckiest with ovaries as millions of other women... You can embrace yourself as you are. And PCOS symptoms are treatable
This was hella awesome to watch! Jahni was so well versed in how she explained everything. Def learned a lot!
I’m glad they’re representing all different types of people kids are young and need to be educated, even most adults don’t know this. Faking it an mtv show addressed this in 2014, it’s important we have understanding and awareness and love for all sorts of live
This video is so important. I have PCOS and am part of the LGBTQIA+ community, but I did not know what intersex was. Now I am discovering that I relate to it a lot.
Fantastic video, thank you Jahni for being so open. I'm not intersex but I am queer and I know it can be scary to be your real self because people might judge you. It's brave to just be you, especially online in front of millions. Being queer, intersex, trans, etc is never a mistake or something people should have to experience hardship for, gender and sexuality diversity is seen all over nature and should be celebrated in humans too.
It should be accepted and normalised. But my genuine concern is its not verifiable. So how does one put something on a certificate thats non verifiable. Or how does one organise society around it.
I remember in sex Ed they taught us that an estimated 2% of the population was intersex which really surprised me as I had never met anyone who was intersex.
Have some intersex traits. Most often some hormonal inballance
Neither have I. That I know of.
That you know of. Many intersex people don’t know it themselves. But the 2% estimate refers to traits.
Jahni has such a lovely way about herself, such a beautiful soul!
in Germany you can always choose between male female and various. totally forgot this might be different in other countries
Excellent educational interview ☮️
The doctor was shocked when I didn’t want hormones for my PCOS. I’m totally ok with being hairy and having whack periods, the risks of taking said hormones are so scary and I’m comfy in my body, so why fight nature :) I never considered myself intersex, but it’s cool to hear I may be considered as such.
I'm 17 an gay and I was watching this and some of the thing they were saying resonated with me especially the hormones thing and I'm googling while watching the rest and they answer my question when they started talking about PCOS which I have, I'm female I was born female I g by she/her but I have to much testosterone (male hormone) which results in me growing a lot of hair on my face arms and legs and I'm always self conscious but this really helped
This world would be a much better place if we could all have a little bit more curiosity about one another and really work to understand and get to know each other. I love open conversations like these with respectful questions and dialogue because there is so much for all of us to learn. Wonderful video.
My only complaint is: I wish the video had a more variety of people with different ages and not a lot of young people.
Young people are probably more likely to be okay with being filmed and put online and/or are looking at casting calls on channels like Jubilee or cut
I really like her, she's really nice, polite and open.
She is SO ELOQUENT. Thank you for so beautifully educating us with such wisdom.
The fact that people discover this at 18 and later on is so scary to me like we should know these things about ourselves
It's great to go through the comments and see how many fellow Intersex people are out there. Thank you Jubilee for this video
Just gotta say, I love stuff like this. It's so educational and respectful. It really helps being light to real people facing real challenges outside of the "norm." The world needs more of this so we can all understand each other better.
I am amazed because intersex people completely debunk any limited concept of gender.
But I thought sex and gender were different 🤔
@@vanillamarshmallow I don't think people who believe they're different deny that they are super highly correlated. Sex is the biological part (chromosomes, so ur reproductive system, what your body will grow up to look like, etc) whilst gender is how you express yourself to the world (so it's more about societal values, roles, how you were raised)
At least that's how I understand it?
@@vanillamarshmallow They are. Intersex people break even the binary expectation of biological sex being male/female. Intersex people aren’t really physically definable as “male” or “female.”
I’m not intersex, but I am trans. This is a fantastic and much-needed video to have out there. Thank you! ❤️
We still don't know very much about how the brain works. It may turn out to be the case that transgender people are just intersex people with a brain which has developed as one sex and a body which had developed as the opposite sex.
@@CiaraOSullivan1990 no such thing as trans. There has been no science to prove that so called trans people have different brains. In fact, there is science to prove that men who think they’re women still have a male brain.
That was sooooo beautiful!!! Thank you soooooo much for sharing and teaching us children!!
I find it interesting that she wanted to wait until she was of age to “consent”
If her parents did not intervene and “fix” the deformation would her quality of life been better? Or worse?
What type of struggles would they have gone through?
I heard personally that people with intersex genetailia that get surgery as an infant are not happy with it. Theres definitely a variance in experience but i personally heard that my friends wished they could’ve chosen what they wanted.
@@rennXenn i find it weird that people are surprised to hear that. Like yeah, most people would like to decide if their body is medically altered
"Kuncint"
As an intersex born female…. I totally relate 🤍
i feel like someone up in heaven was like "i really like both so I'm gonna do both"
Pcos is a hormonal disbalance..having cysts in your ovaries/irregular periods don't make you intersex
Meaning it's biological, though. That's why terminology may be evolving.
Literally came here to say that.
i said this in another comment but one of the three main traits to diagnose a person with pcos is hyper-androgenism, hyper-androgenism is an intersex trait. you only need 2/3 of the traits to be considered to have pcos so not every person with pcos has that but many do.
....part of being intersex can be differences in hormones
@@septanine5936 honestly they literally say that at the start. Why don’t people listen 😂😂
I appreciate how informative this is
I CLICKED ON THIS VIDEO WITH THE QUICKNESS 😆😅🤣😆😄💯👁👄👁
Same 😂 Almost dropped my phone on how fast I pressed my screen
I’m glad I watched this one. I know so little about Intersex people. I’m sure they’re in a small small minority but it’s still nice to be educated. I also love the idea of using the they/them pronoun and using a verb typically used for a singular noun. Example: “They is going to the store today”. I really hope they embrace this.
I wouldn't really describe 2% of the world's population as a "small small minority" - it's way more common than people think.
It would be "they're* going to the store" and if this is your first time hearing they/them used like this, I'm very surprised and it's not new. At least before being used as chosen pronouns, they were used when you were not identifying or didnt know the gender of the person. For example. "Someone knocked on the door. I waited for them to speak." "I thought I could be with them, but we were a bad pair"
@@lauramarymoonlight great example I never thought about it that way.
Thank you as an intersex person this is the step we needed to share our truth
What a beautiful person Jahni is! Big fan of her energy ❤
I’ve heard of the term intersex before but was not too familiar with it. This is very educational, thank you!
Especially lovedd the questions Matthew asked - you could tell he’s taking this opportunity to further educate himself n be more of an ally
Thank you Jahni for answering the questions
I love her openness and her overall personality!