THANK YOU SO MUCH OMG! Not only are the girls NOT the protagonists but their very existence doesn't even make sense! The 90s mean girls should have been the main characters, being targeted by ‘A’ shortly after Angela’s death. There was so much potential to make a whole show with these characters as the protagonists rather than their daughters whose existence doesn't even make sense and is way too convenient (Seriously?? You're telling me that these women ALL got pregnant at the same time and all had only daughters who grew up in the same town????)! Their daughters don't even do anything wrong, they're not Liars unlike their mothers. Davie and her friends seemed much more morally gray, which made them so interesting! And they were actually close to someone whose name starts with an "A" and who probably knew some things about them, which would have made ‘‘A’s’’ introduction much more impactful! A Pretty Little Liars story in the 90s would have been so cool! It's very clear that the people who made this show don't even understand the original book series and show! Roberto just sees it as his playground where he can recreate various horror movies (in ways that don't even work, btw) instead of making something original or fresh! And yet the PLL skeleton was right there! A dead girl (Angela), five girls with a secret (Davie, her friends and the role they played in Angela's downfall) and a vengeful killer who presents themselves as "A". And I like how the dynamic between the five girls and the dead girl was reversed here! While in the original it was one girl (Alison) terrorizing four other girls (five, if you count Mona) who somehow kept being haunted by Alison long after her death due to the fear that she had instilled in them while she was still alive, here it was five girls manipulating and being cruel to one (Angela). It would have been so intriguing to see them being haunted by the image of this poor girl whom they did wrong and going from bullies to victims when "A" starts to track them down! Everything to make this show good was RIGHT THERE in the flashbacks and yet somehow they completely missed the mark! It could have been a prequel series to the original, revealing that a much more gruesome "A" existed in another town in the 90s and that they might have been Mona's (the first 'A' in the original show) inspiration for her own game! And I do think that there was a lot of potential in each of the 2022 girls storylines to make them actual Liars. Like for instance, imagine the DRAMA of having Imogen be pregnant as the result of consensual sex (instead of sexual assault) with Greg aka her best friend's boyfriend, whom she always had a crush on, having Tabby steal a movie idea or project for a contest or something (much like how Spencer stole her sister's essay in the original), having Noa dealing drugs for her boyfriend (because she is insecure and looking for male approval or something), Faran actually trying to sabotage Karen and the others at her dance classes because of the pressure that her mother puts on her to be the best. And in my opinion, Mouse should have been 'A'. There's a little detail that was never addressed in the opening sequence and it's Mouse's missing person poster, where for some reason, it's stated that she was born in 1992, which would make her 30 years old. I was thinking that maybe she was related to Angela and since she can pass off as a teenager, she decided to integrate that group to target them. But it was nothing more than a useless detail.
@@innocentvillainreviews2656 And I believe it could have been a two-season series! The first season focusing on Sydney and her friends in the 90s and the second season focusing on the 2022 Liars. With only one of them being related to one of the 90s Liars because it would make more sense. Young Sydney gave off Final Girl vibes so I guess Tabby would kind of be the main one in the second season. Instead of having that random dude be A, it could have been shown in the first season that Angela had a younger sister named Anna who ended up being traumatized after losing both her sister and her mother due to Rose Waters being placed in a mental institution after snapping because of the loss of her eldest daughter. Anna Waters would have been placed in foster care where she didn't have a very happy life and as a result, she would have been seeking revenge for years on these girls who didn't just destroy Angela but her whole family as well, until she found out the survivor of the first massacre has a daughter with her own friend group. So, since she could pass as a teenager, she pretended to be a high school student named Minnie (nicknamed Mouse) to integrate the group and use each of the girls' secrets against them to turn into even worse people and force Sydney to witness her daughter being turned into what she was once and subsequently being punished for it. Her motive for targeting the other girls despite them having no connection to Angela or the 90s Liars would have been that she needed to assemble the perfect group of Liars and force Sydney to see history repeat itself or something like that. Karen would have been part of the group at the beginning but Minnie manages to turn the girls against her, then kills her but makes it look like a suicide and makes the girls believe that she killed herself because of them (as 'A' of course). I could spend DAYS talking about how I've been reimagining the show lol
@@mkayyy1918 Honestly? I've been considering it lol but I'd need to decide who would be the first 'A' in the year 2000 (though I think Elodie would be a good candidate, considering that Elodie was in a romantic relationship with Angela and therefore was the closest to her and it would make sense for her to get revenge on everyone who did Angela wrong and become 'A' out of rage and out of guilt), as well as come up with more complex backstories for each of the girls (both the 90s girls and especially the 2022 girls, who are abhorrently bland). Also, I'd need to find some time to write lmao
i think they should’ve had Archie not actually be A. He was the bully killer, but Clanton was the one who wanted revenge. It would’ve been intesterestimg if Archie had set the girls up to be friends to get justice for his sister and to protect the girls from their moms and his dead. Archie is known to be empathetic to the girls, numerous times. it would’ve been interesting if the killer was actually on the “liars” side
Honestly, I hadn't even considered that.🤔 That would've been so cool. And it would've tied back into why the liars were gathered together as well as given Archie depth
Didn't all your parents and parents friends have only one kid who was all the same gender, relatively at the same time in the same town? I thought it was normal
You are absolutely right. There is one thing though - the janitor A killed in the end of the first episode was hinted to be a pedo, praying at the ballet class girls, which can be considered bullying.
Thank you for the watch. Greatly appreciate that. Also, yeah, he did have a shot looking creepy at Faran, but I don't think that's really enough evidence to connect. On top of that the bios on his character say he was innocent. But who really knows the writing is a mess
@@innocentvillainreviews2656 they probably killed him off to have us get hooked and see how cruel A is when in fact that wasn't even scary when it's never mentioned again
You know with Mouse’s story, her mom must’ve gotten a ton of money somehow before Mouse was born because as far as I know, she wouldn’t get any government assistance as long as the bio dad’s real name is on the birth certificate. The government would go after the dad for child support before they gave her a dime, which makes the plot hole of her mom’s financial situation even bigger. And I agree it makes no sense for the bio dad to just reject her. It would’ve made more sense if he rejected her because he’s scared, he has his own kid to take care of and after he was almost arrested for kidnapping her, he can’t trust that Mouse’s moms won’t suddenly change their minds and he’d have to deal with those issues, and even if it’s a lie, it could affect his job and stuff. This would have the same effect as him rejecting her, would further strain her relationship with her moms since this wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t for them, and leave the door open for them to reconnect in future seasons
With regard to your theory about Tabby being a with a split personality they kind of did something like that with the original PLL so probably why they didn't go there.
i loved this video, the takes in here were very valid! only one note: the reason A kills the janitor pin the first episode was because the janitor had messed w Angela back in 1999, but i agree it felt random
I'm very happy that you enjoyed the video. I appreciate the watch and comment. However, the janitor A killed in episode 1 never messed with Angela. There was a janitor that got her in trouble in 1999, but they're 2 different characters, and the janitor in the 1st episode is only cited as a 1 time appearance character who died because he found A's lair
Surrogates are very expensive and have stringent requirements to become one. It's reasonable a couple with a tight budget and a woman who might not pass a background check would go under the table like that. Does NOT make sense that it would be via sex. It's not that hard to get someone pregnant without sex. I was born via an informal agreement for a sperm donor but no one had sex, it's not like pipettes haven't been invented.
@@innocentvillainreviews2656 Heh no worries. Pretty Little Liars has always had attrocious writing it feels odd to be defending it but that one detail didn't seem unfeasable to me. In my country there is no legal basis for surrogacy agreements you are always rolling the dice that the surrogate just goes "no thanks this is my baby" before you can finalise an adoption.
Okay there is a lot of weak writing but again not on that point she couldn't remember being assaulted until Midway through the season as I recall. (She's not only gotten drunk she'd been drugged), Imogen was also drugged and blacked out, Like it kind of happened retroactively with her PTSD. (Tabby). As for Imogen it was also implied that she was taken to the beach after she was drugged. Actually that's pretty plausible predators, look for moments of opportunity. Again there is a lot of bad writing on the show but that's not really part of it.
Imogen was not taken to the beach. She stole a bottle of vodka from Karen's party after their fight and went to the beach to get drunk and proceeded to pass out. Chip even states he found Imogen passed out on the beach. He didn't drug or move her
Also mouse is the daughter raised buy two lesbian moms 👩❤️💋👩🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ and she has a trans boyfriend, so therefore it would only make sense that she supports the community, just because Karen was teasing her, does not mean that she actually is LGBT herself. There is a lot of bad writing on that show but not in that particular respect.
I think what they're going for is that, mouse supports the lgbtq community because she has a trans boyfriend? 🏳️⚧️ I think that's what they're getting at.
The original version of this show was great, not perfect but sooooo much better from the characters, fashion and relationships, you cared and it kept your attention, they acted like real people till the 5th season it got a little boring, for me, now I’m trying to watch it again to see how it ends cuz wanna see the main couple get married 🥰
I would agree actually, except about season 5 it started to suck in season 6 after the premiere of that season, (I know a lot of people hate it but personally I love Alison's Redemption).
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THANK YOU SO MUCH OMG! Not only are the girls NOT the protagonists but their very existence doesn't even make sense! The 90s mean girls should have been the main characters, being targeted by ‘A’ shortly after Angela’s death. There was so much potential to make a whole show with these characters as the protagonists rather than their daughters whose existence doesn't even make sense and is way too convenient (Seriously?? You're telling me that these women ALL got pregnant at the same time and all had only daughters who grew up in the same town????)! Their daughters don't even do anything wrong, they're not Liars unlike their mothers. Davie and her friends seemed much more morally gray, which made them so interesting! And they were actually close to someone whose name starts with an "A" and who probably knew some things about them, which would have made ‘‘A’s’’ introduction much more impactful! A Pretty Little Liars story in the 90s would have been so cool! It's very clear that the people who made this show don't even understand the original book series and show! Roberto just sees it as his playground where he can recreate various horror movies (in ways that don't even work, btw) instead of making something original or fresh!
And yet the PLL skeleton was right there! A dead girl (Angela), five girls with a secret (Davie, her friends and the role they played in Angela's downfall) and a vengeful killer who presents themselves as "A". And I like how the dynamic between the five girls and the dead girl was reversed here! While in the original it was one girl (Alison) terrorizing four other girls (five, if you count Mona) who somehow kept being haunted by Alison long after her death due to the fear that she had instilled in them while she was still alive, here it was five girls manipulating and being cruel to one (Angela). It would have been so intriguing to see them being haunted by the image of this poor girl whom they did wrong and going from bullies to victims when "A" starts to track them down! Everything to make this show good was RIGHT THERE in the flashbacks and yet somehow they completely missed the mark! It could have been a prequel series to the original, revealing that a much more gruesome "A" existed in another town in the 90s and that they might have been Mona's (the first 'A' in the original show) inspiration for her own game!
And I do think that there was a lot of potential in each of the 2022 girls storylines to make them actual Liars. Like for instance, imagine the DRAMA of having Imogen be pregnant as the result of consensual sex (instead of sexual assault) with Greg aka her best friend's boyfriend, whom she always had a crush on, having Tabby steal a movie idea or project for a contest or something (much like how Spencer stole her sister's essay in the original), having Noa dealing drugs for her boyfriend (because she is insecure and looking for male approval or something), Faran actually trying to sabotage Karen and the others at her dance classes because of the pressure that her mother puts on her to be the best. And in my opinion, Mouse should have been 'A'. There's a little detail that was never addressed in the opening sequence and it's Mouse's missing person poster, where for some reason, it's stated that she was born in 1992, which would make her 30 years old. I was thinking that maybe she was related to Angela and since she can pass off as a teenager, she decided to integrate that group to target them. But it was nothing more than a useless detail.
Honestly, if they did half of the stuff you mentioned, this show would've been significantly more enjoyable to watch
@@innocentvillainreviews2656 And I believe it could have been a two-season series! The first season focusing on Sydney and her friends in the 90s and the second season focusing on the 2022 Liars. With only one of them being related to one of the 90s Liars because it would make more sense. Young Sydney gave off Final Girl vibes so I guess Tabby would kind of be the main one in the second season.
Instead of having that random dude be A, it could have been shown in the first season that Angela had a younger sister named Anna who ended up being traumatized after losing both her sister and her mother due to Rose Waters being placed in a mental institution after snapping because of the loss of her eldest daughter. Anna Waters would have been placed in foster care where she didn't have a very happy life and as a result, she would have been seeking revenge for years on these girls who didn't just destroy Angela but her whole family as well, until she found out the survivor of the first massacre has a daughter with her own friend group.
So, since she could pass as a teenager, she pretended to be a high school student named Minnie (nicknamed Mouse) to integrate the group and use each of the girls' secrets against them to turn into even worse people and force Sydney to witness her daughter being turned into what she was once and subsequently being punished for it. Her motive for targeting the other girls despite them having no connection to Angela or the 90s Liars would have been that she needed to assemble the perfect group of Liars and force Sydney to see history repeat itself or something like that. Karen would have been part of the group at the beginning but Minnie manages to turn the girls against her, then kills her but makes it look like a suicide and makes the girls believe that she killed herself because of them (as 'A' of course). I could spend DAYS talking about how I've been reimagining the show lol
@@XxCharmemexXI beg you please rewrite the series on Ao3! I would eat this up!
@@mkayyy1918 Honestly? I've been considering it lol but I'd need to decide who would be the first 'A' in the year 2000 (though I think Elodie would be a good candidate, considering that Elodie was in a romantic relationship with Angela and therefore was the closest to her and it would make sense for her to get revenge on everyone who did Angela wrong and become 'A' out of rage and out of guilt), as well as come up with more complex backstories for each of the girls (both the 90s girls and especially the 2022 girls, who are abhorrently bland). Also, I'd need to find some time to write lmao
I do think they would been better if they gave each liar a chance to help Imogen help with the mystery
A dad is not a mom. 2 moms dont equal a dad and vis versa. Totally different energy
I agree the show is fun so I like it but I understand that a lot of things don’t make sense
i think they should’ve had Archie not actually be A. He was the bully killer, but Clanton was the one who wanted revenge. It would’ve been intesterestimg if Archie had set the girls up to be friends to get justice for his sister and to protect the girls from their moms and his dead. Archie is known to be empathetic to the girls, numerous times. it would’ve been interesting if the killer was actually on the “liars” side
Honestly, I hadn't even considered that.🤔 That would've been so cool. And it would've tied back into why the liars were gathered together as well as given Archie depth
Does anyone else find it werid their moms got pregnant at the same time and they're all daughters and and thats the only kid they ever had just me?
Didn't all your parents and parents friends have only one kid who was all the same gender, relatively at the same time in the same town? I thought it was normal
You are absolutely right. There is one thing though - the janitor A killed in the end of the first episode was hinted to be a pedo, praying at the ballet class girls, which can be considered bullying.
Thank you for the watch. Greatly appreciate that. Also, yeah, he did have a shot looking creepy at Faran, but I don't think that's really enough evidence to connect. On top of that the bios on his character say he was innocent. But who really knows the writing is a mess
@@innocentvillainreviews2656 they probably killed him off to have us get hooked and see how cruel A is when in fact that wasn't even scary when it's never mentioned again
You know with Mouse’s story, her mom must’ve gotten a ton of money somehow before Mouse was born because as far as I know, she wouldn’t get any government assistance as long as the bio dad’s real name is on the birth certificate. The government would go after the dad for child support before they gave her a dime, which makes the plot hole of her mom’s financial situation even bigger. And I agree it makes no sense for the bio dad to just reject her. It would’ve made more sense if he rejected her because he’s scared, he has his own kid to take care of and after he was almost arrested for kidnapping her, he can’t trust that Mouse’s moms won’t suddenly change their minds and he’d have to deal with those issues, and even if it’s a lie, it could affect his job and stuff. This would have the same effect as him rejecting her, would further strain her relationship with her moms since this wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t for them, and leave the door open for them to reconnect in future seasons
That is a very valid explanation. I wish they would've attempted to give one because what you just said works incredibly well
With regard to your theory about Tabby being a with a split personality they kind of did something like that with the original PLL so probably why they didn't go there.
That's fair, but if ain't broke don't fix imo
@@innocentvillainreviews2656 😆
You cant sell your baby, only give it away
i loved this video, the takes in here were very valid! only one note: the reason A kills the janitor pin the first episode was because the janitor had messed w Angela back in 1999, but i agree it felt random
I'm very happy that you enjoyed the video. I appreciate the watch and comment. However, the janitor A killed in episode 1 never messed with Angela. There was a janitor that got her in trouble in 1999, but they're 2 different characters, and the janitor in the 1st episode is only cited as a 1 time appearance character who died because he found A's lair
Hi! Nice video, i enjoyed it! Will you do season 2?
Yes, I will be covering season 2. I'm happy to hear you enjoyed the video, or I suppose I read that you enjoyed it
Surrogates are very expensive and have stringent requirements to become one. It's reasonable a couple with a tight budget and a woman who might not pass a background check would go under the table like that.
Does NOT make sense that it would be via sex. It's not that hard to get someone pregnant without sex. I was born via an informal agreement for a sperm donor but no one had sex, it's not like pipettes haven't been invented.
Thanks for answering my question. I truly appreciate it especially since you would've had to watch like an hour plus to get to it ahaha 😊
@@innocentvillainreviews2656 Heh no worries. Pretty Little Liars has always had attrocious writing it feels odd to be defending it but that one detail didn't seem unfeasable to me.
In my country there is no legal basis for surrogacy agreements you are always rolling the dice that the surrogate just goes "no thanks this is my baby" before you can finalise an adoption.
The original Pretty Little liars series premiered in 2010 not 2011.
You're right. It said s1 ended in 2011 not started. Thanks
Okay there is a lot of weak writing but again not on that point she couldn't remember being assaulted until Midway through the season as I recall. (She's not only gotten drunk she'd been drugged), Imogen was also drugged and blacked out, Like it kind of happened retroactively with her PTSD. (Tabby). As for Imogen it was also implied that she was taken to the beach after she was drugged. Actually that's pretty plausible predators, look for moments of opportunity. Again there is a lot of bad writing on the show but that's not really part of it.
Imogen was not taken to the beach. She stole a bottle of vodka from Karen's party after their fight and went to the beach to get drunk and proceeded to pass out. Chip even states he found Imogen passed out on the beach. He didn't drug or move her
@@innocentvillainreviews2656 ╮(. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)╭okay and just to be clear I don't really like the reboot.
All good 👍
Also mouse is the daughter raised buy two lesbian moms 👩❤️💋👩🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️ and she has a trans boyfriend, so therefore it would only make sense that she supports the community, just because Karen was teasing her, does not mean that she actually is LGBT herself.
There is a lot of bad writing on that show but not in that particular respect.
Mouse is revealed to be queer in the second season of the show. Also, she wasn't dating Ash at the start of the show.
I think what they're going for is that, mouse supports the lgbtq community because she has a trans boyfriend? 🏳️⚧️ I think that's what they're getting at.
The original version of this show was great, not perfect but sooooo much better from the characters, fashion and relationships, you cared and it kept your attention, they acted like real people till the 5th season it got a little boring, for me, now I’m trying to watch it again to see how it ends cuz wanna see the main couple get married 🥰
I would agree actually, except about season 5 it started to suck in season 6 after the premiere of that season, (I know a lot of people hate it but personally I love Alison's Redemption).