EP-173 | Exploring India's Election Influence on Neighbours with Tilak Devasher & Ajay Bisaria
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- The world's biggest festival of democracy is underway in India. Drama, spectacle, colour, jibes, and exuberant noise-India is witnessing everything. But what about its neighbours? How are they watching the Indian Election 2024? Who do they want in power: a strong independent government or a coalition one? How will the 2024 India General election shape neighbours' foreign policies? We will get all the answers.
Joining this podcast are two esteemed experts, Ajay Bisaria and Tilak Devasher. Bisaria is a Distinguished Fellow at ORF. He served as the Indian High Commissioner to Canada and India's envoy to Pakistan, Poland, and Lithuania. He also authored the book "Anger Management: The Troubled Diplomatic Relationship Between India and Pakistan," which is discussed in the show.
Tilak Devasher is the author of three widely acclaimed books on Pakistan. He retired as Special Secretary, Cabinet Secretariat, Government of India in October 2014. He is currently a member of the National Security Advisory Board.
In this episode, experts discuss how China is extending its trade ties with Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Myanmar, which pose high-risk points for Indian territories. They further talk about dealing with the Taliban government, terrorism of insurgent groups in Myanmar, and relations with the Pakistan government. And how should India deal with the New Maldivian government, which ran an 'India Out' Campaign.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming Up
02:07 - Introduction
03:20 - How Neighbours view 2024 Polls
08:42 - India-Pakistan Relations
19:08 - Pak wants INDIA Alliance?
22:51 - Teesta Project & India Out Campaign
28:44 - Maldives ties with India & China
32:56 - India's Aid to Sri Lanka
36:19 - Political instability in Nepal
42:24 - China 'Learning' from India
45:15 - Is CPEC dying?
51:49 - India's view on Myanmar Insurgency
55:54 - Security Threats for India
59:09 - India-Bhutan Ties
01:00:48 - India-China strategic relations
01:03:05 - Taliban Government
01:05:30 - Khalistan Movement in Canada
01:10:39 - Ajay Bisaria's Pakistan Expulsion
01:17:57 - Pak's Interest in India
01:21:25 - Pak TH-camrs Admiring India
01:23:48 - Street Protests' Influence
01:28:27 - China's Threat to Polls
01:33:07 - West's View on Indian Democracy
01:35:17 - Domestic Politics & Foreign Policy
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We should STOP focusing on Pakistan. Policy of ignoring them is the best policy for foreseeable future.
We have already
@@Nationalist04but we still have 25code of them living in different parts of India
@@trilokyamohanchakra6351it our stupid Gandhiji mistake to think we can ever trust the Ambedkar was right to ask for complete population transfer
@@tejesheconomics4072 yep either become exmuslim or please migrate to Pakistan
@@tejesheconomics4072 yep either become exmuslim or please migrate to Pakistan
Please invite Mr. Jayadev Ranade who can give us great insights on China and also Nitin Gokhale on India borders.. Would be a delight to watch both !!!
Ajay Bisaria is an example of Old Establishment. For maintaining his access to the glitterati speaks all talking points of interests other than that of India. His views on critical Indian interests have likely damaged India. He speaks the language of pleasing foreign powers.
I felt exactly the same
True
Seedha bolna na ki he's a congressi
It is such a refreshing change from those times when a few strategic pundits would monopoloise the debates on foreign policy issues with so called iconic anchors like Karan Thapar. Most of those discussions were structured to give a so called " fair assessent ". Needless to mention criticizing Indian policy makers was par for the course.All of us know about those sanctimonious punditry of the strategic foregin policy experts.
Close your eyes and listen to Tilak Devashar talking..he sounds like Ranbir Kapoor 😎
Why did you ruin it for me😂
Thank you Mrs. Prakash for this wonderful exchange- On my behalf do also thank the participating diplomats. 🙏🏼
This is called realistic analysis of situation
Excellent and most insightful discussion with two of India’s finest and astute diplomats and geo strategists. Normally I can’t persevere with long podcasts but in your case the longer the better. Keep them coming. We in the diaspora love them. 🙏🙏
*Chhenna(China)Punjab Eco Corridor*
*That was awesome* 👈👈👈👈
Bas Pakistan Pakistan hi karty rehna or ajkal Punjab ko gali dena bas
Question to Mr Tilak : why should kashmir statehood be the determining factor for Talks with Pakistan. They snapped the ties, so why should we give them something in terms of statehood to kashmir. That would send a very wrong message that we were forced to give statehood.
As a kashmiri, statehood should be restored after 30 years of 2019 maybe in 2047.
The years lost in militancy should be taken as time barometer for it being a UT.
Those farooqs and muftis should understand the value of being a responsible "state" like others in India.
Ajay Bisaria is completely wrong about the Chinese intentions or prediction about their behaviour post Modi 3.0. Knowledge about our real enemy no. 1 i.e. China is crucial in countering it.
Who cares what our neighbours want?
All we want to know what majority of Indians want.
I thought Mr. Ajay will tell truth but he was telling just lie. He didn’t say who we deal with Khalistani in Canada. I live in Canada. These Indian diplomatic don’t do anything here. They just take salary and heavy perks
He still fondly remembers the congressi government with nostalgia
Modi is an Unique, Visionary, Dynamic, True Nationalist Leader acclaimed world over under the present geopolitical situation.Chanukya would not have manoeuvred better than Modi with the various ethnicity & opposition within/outside the country. MODI means Man Of Developing India 🇮🇳🙏
Baat to sahi hai but Chanakya se comparison thora zyada nahein hogaya?
😂 ab kya kare hindu hain hi gajani@@moslemson
Jyada ?
Bahut kaam hua
Pakistan ka ye halat abhi Tak jitne pm the kiske term mai nahi hua itne Shanti pichle 5 saal Mai hua hai
Atal ji ki sarkar ne bhi hath badhaya tha Jo nahi karna tha
To bahut kaam bola hai bhai
PM Modi has proved by now in his very DNA as a very well Seasoned, Strong, ingeniously gifted Leader, Politician to deal with & handle various dificult opposing elements, of diverse multiple ethnicity issues of a rapidly growing new india seen & proven under his last 10 yr regime. 🎉 🎉
He is a skilled Administrator, Orater, selfless politician who loves his country, a Fervent nationalist 'n a Patriot. 🎉
Where is another 2nd person to replace him as of today. ❤
We definately find him indispensible till de end of his time. 😢
Yes I do agree with you.. Jai Hind, Vandematram..
Classical , knowledgeable ,balanced officers , Our country should be 'proud'
We don't bother what neighbours or Canada or US thinks and wishes to have which government we will elect. It's our right to elect our leaders, it's non of their business and they should not interfere. Offcourse they know what India is now!!!!!!!
Pakistan china are saying India mein democracy khatam ho jayega congress bhi wohi kethta hai
Yeh rishta kya kehlata hai
Excellent Guests... Kudos to ANI
Namaste🙏Har Har Mahadev🔱Jai Sree Ram 🏹Vande Mataram🇮🇳 Vasudaiva Kutumbakam🙏Bharat is Mother of Democracy👍Sanatana Dharma is the only solution for Global Peace 🌍
Why doesn't media call out false narratives ? Don't give publicity. Great discussion. Should be a regular feature. Include Sushant ji also. More of China and less of Pakistan. Thank you all. Jai Bharat 🙏
Smithaji's incisive intelliget channel is definitely educative.🎉
Looking forward to this podcast
Good to view this election from a subcontinent perspective in this episode
Also would like an other podcast on how the US and the West views this election and whom would they prefer (though broadly we know the answer to that question )
What a podcast!! Wow such knowledgeable conversation. Thank you Smitha. Want more.
Real sensible, realistic and intellectual podcast
Great discussion... good quality...
*Pakistani Punjabis :- sannu Chai di "Kheraat" Puri "Respect" K Sath*
Bas Pakistan Pakistan hi karty rehna or ab lindus ka naya churan Punjabi Pakistan mai 70 % log punjabi dilects hi hai sirf punjab nhi kpk sy sindh bolochistan, Kashmir tak mai
Neighbours r always jealous to our success & they want a weak goverment in India which they can manipulate. And we know which parties are weak(est).
Yes dear Smita. . .We all want experienced , well Seasoned folks like these. . . Age soeaks
🎉 😅 🎉
Smita ji, you are so good. Overall a great discussion
First name is ok, but prefix of “Mr “”would have augur well, particularly in Oriental context , at least looking to age aspect.
Excellent discussions 👍🏻
Thank you Smita for this podcast.
Excellent discussion
I thoroughly enjoyed the podcast.
Don't worry about Neighbors. Important who is good for Bharath.
Excellent
We don’t care who our neighbours want…but I want Modi!!!
I personally think the best scenario for us is to ignore Pakistan any peace move will only be temporary they will revert back to there old ways our previous peace moves have failed
Hell with neighbours.
Thanks a lot ❤
Smithoooooo you look awesome pretty … nice discussion 😍💕
इतने पढ़े लिखे लोग है मैं इनके ज्ञान का सम्मान करता हु बस दुख है कि पूरी तरह से हिंदी नही सिख सके अगर ये पूरी वार्ता हिंदी में हुई होती तो कितना अच्छा और अपना पन दिखता पर क्या करे सब हिंदी नही बोल सकते।
This was FANTASTIC
You must do conversation on De-Radicalisation,which is the problem with our neighbours, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Madde eps & Afghanistan. Some solution shall come out. India out program is a radicalised kind of thing.
This duo is awesome but please bring sushant bhai to spice things up
Thank you Prakash Saab for the new word Obduracy
Hey it is a word in the Oxford dictionary.
Very nice podcast ma'am 😊
Neighbours who can't rule themselves and have made a mess of their own country? We should be bothered about who they want to rule over India?
India should not allow visa free for Nepalies,,,,,,,,it is a security concern for Bharat
Being a Good Listener is One of de highest merits of a man
Like Lord Ganesha. . . . .😮 Says de scriptures 🎉 🎉
Maam.. if possible can you get ex ambassador Mr.G Parthasarathy to talk on same topic...
Bharat Varsh is de Mother of Democracy.
Hence Sanatan Dharma is de 0nly Solution to World Peace : Vasudev Kutumbh: One World Family 🎉 ❤ 🎉
India should have done this immediately after 1971 instead of waiting until now
Top notch podcast
Please bring jaydev Ranade 🙏
This is a direct result of Ignoring all this Areas for 6 dacades aftrr independence By the Congress Party. No infrastructure, no proper investment , no dialogue but stay in Delhi and Loot, scam, and keep the cycle of poverty & starvation with communal violance. jai hind
Smitha you referred the US as Pakistan's aaka.. in fact Pakistan has developed many aakas since 1947.. they have Saudi Arabia and China their all weather .. each time they are .. one of the akaa's come to help on their own..
jai Bharatmata🇮🇳🙏🏾
Also relief from mundane political rhetoric from political leaders
India has repatriated 3 Assasins of Mujib who were hiding in West Bengal in the last 10 years.
You could have made a schematic map of Myanmar and shown the areas... I have no clue about Myanmar and it's areas and I won't even remember the names of the areas just by hearing them in podcast.
Mam kindly add date of shoot so as to refer with other news
Excellent love affair really.
15:27 Indian objective must be to go back 712 AD; not just 2014. Let's not be so short sighted.
BD vs IND BEST FRIEND FOR EVER
Lithuanian are the real brave hearts who have shown a middle finger 🖕 to Xijingping the emperor of China for life n CCP by recognising Taiwan as a sovereign nation… Bravo 👏🏻 ❤
I am a medical doctor of Myanmar 🇲🇲, but unfortunately my भारत sarkar is like अंधा बोरा गूँगा भारत ने लोक सभा और अपने राज्य सभा में अपने पड़ोसी गरीब देश Myanmar 🇲🇲 में हो रहे Military Coup Terrorists सरकार के विरुद्ध काम से कम एक निन्दा प्रस्ताव नहिं रखे. भारत ने UNSC में उसे बचाने का प्रयास किया. अपितु भारत के सैन्य chief की आकस्मिक मृत्यु और भारत के धरती पर Australia 🇦🇺 टीम के साथ हार का सामना करना पड़ा
Smita, after bringing Pakistan a dozen times in every other podcast, "We don't care about Pakistan anymore."
Don't care of Pakistan in terms of policy , not discussion
27.07 Soon that will happen there similar to the neighbours of west there is only 13% population is left with saris. Once that goes down, things will change there too. Enlightenment takes a long time to acquire but for becoming an ignorant it doesn't take long one evening in a cave is enough.
Pakistan has Army supervised democracy
If IMF and Pakistan have nikah and divorce regularly, who performs the Halala ?
Ajay after retirement do not know where his royalty is with Bharat or our neighbouring countries 😂😂😂😂
Common people especially young people are talking against India. Its shocking. Bangladesh got so much help from India but the are dare to talk to boycott India. India must teach them a lesson.
What a top notch guest. Amazing.
After the election result Chaina might change its mind towards India after that other neighbouring countries fall in line
She does not want to talk to the older guy..kinda sad to see him ignored for the most part
The Indian position may have shifted from stop-terror for trade and talks to hand over PoK and wanted terrorists for trade and talks.
Samita pls have your speakers complete and stop interrupting. You would often go on interrupted your guests!
The analysis is from narrow point of view. The Bangladesh relationship with India has also to be seen from influenced by other powers apart from the internal radical islamists and leftists.
Maa'm lot of people liked communism , but were disillusioned, like with Kejriwal. It's an utopia.
I am curious as to what Mr Dullat is up to?
@ANI Basically it's INDI ALLIANCE not INDIA ALLIANCE
Worth watching ANI podcasts for hours ❤✅
1. About Pakistan- it is simple. First, Pakistan has nothing to do with J&K after Art 370 was abrogated- whether it is a UT or a state. Secondly, we have nothing to do with their elected Govts, as the Army controls everything. So let us NOT get into Aman Ki Asha mode ever again. Until Pakistan Army and ISI stops all anti terror activities against India fully and completely, nothing can happen in our relations Thirdly, India will not trade with Pakistan as any trade with Pakistan means feeding their coffers for terrorist activities, open our borders for drug trade etc. 2. In fact, Modi 3.0 should actively support anti Pak forces in variety of ways like via Taliban, support for POK, Baloch and Sindh movements etc. 3. China is making moves in Shaksgam Valley and is unlikely to change its stance on border with India. This works well for India, as we are building up our defenses and infrastructure on the border. Plus we are close to US and we are getting required defense technologies from US. And yet China is our biggest trading partner!!!! 4. Excellent and refreshing discussions by Tilak and Ajay.
Beta hum jo karay gy na tumhari naslay yaad rakhnay gi tum wasay bi anti Pakistan forces ko support karty ho jasay BLA or TTP humay karni chaye tumharay khilaf i s i ko karna chaye
both the guests continue to say Modi is coming back to power and the hist continues to say If INDI alliance come to power😂😂😂😂😂
Can she stop interrupting her guests and bringing her own anxieties into the discussion?
At 53:50 she embarrassingly says "and Indian media doesn't report on it"😏, while running apparently 'South Asia's largest news network'.
Why statehood for kashmir should bother pakistan. Kashmir should retain its present status.
Or should we go back to that point when pakistan never awarded MFN status to India under WTO?
👏
Very informative discussion.
आम्हाला मतदान केंद्रावर जाऊन आमचे मत भाजपला द्यायचे आहे
Sirs&Madam,of course indi alliance.
We love you Modiji…
It’s BJP massive development vs congress anti development…It’s BJP eradication of poverty policies vs congress proliferation of poverty…It’s one Bharat, elimination of divisions and discriminations on caste system vs continued divisions and discrimination on caste, partitioning policies, Islamization of Bharat…making Bharat an instrument of western manipulation to bring down Russia and China according to their whims and caprices….and above all elimination of HINDUISM is congress dearest wish..
Hindus should take their destiny into their hands and stop falling into traps….
Thank you for the mature and respectful dialogue sans sensationalism
Samosa podcast on 3rd june mam please
Wonderful discussion
My God how much she interrupts..!! Both speakers completely lost track of questions asked and what they wanted to speak. Smita, could you please control your excitement. We actually want to hear them narrate their experience
Ms Smita Prakash has lost her touch as a seasoned journalist. So much time spent of Pakistan, when the Indian public today does not consider that topic of any consequence. Indians are way more interested to hear about evolving relationship with China, Nepal, Bhutan, lanka, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Indian Ocean bordering countries, even Indonesia and EU… literally anything and everything else (than Pakistan) occupies a bigger space in the India mind today