Love this project, I'm considering building one myself. Just one question, with cheaper delta printers the biggest argument is that it can't really do straight lines. Is this still a thing when you use higher end components? Also, I'm looking at running klipper on an old windows laptop, what Linux distro do you use? Thx
I have never heard of the issue delta printers can't do straight lines, when using klipper or modern firmware I don't believe you would have that issue. Calibration works perfectly, especially basic and advanced. I use xubuntu for klipper and use the KIAUH - Klipper Installation And Update Helper
lolwut. Delta's are complicated mathematically, but actually very simple mechanically, simpler than any regular cartesian based printer quite honestly. And thats entirely the purpose of the firmware, to do all the complicated math for you and the net result is really no different to any other printer. Except that its print area is round, and its way faster than the average cartesian machine The thing is Klipper has a very, very good calibration process for Delta printers using the advanced calibration process. And will do a really good job at compensate for things like a slightly sticky arm, or one that is maybe a tiny fraction longer/shorter than the others. This is very good for precision parts, my FLSun Q5 is extremely precise after calibration and holes are perfect friction fits that are uniform in diameter the whole way around (excluding the seam) This doesn't matter for 'artistic' prints, but functional objects with precise repeatable tolerances its very, very good
thanks, I think either would be fine. Deltas need a bit more work to get going in Klipper but still pretty easy. The Rook is great for beginners the discord has a ton of info and there are build guides on youtube
@@Rolohaun thanks! what would be the electronics package you'd recommend that would work for either rook 180 or the phoenix? Would you still recommend the magnetic rods for phoenix?
I am planning to build your Phoenix Delta. Very excited! Do you have to the STL’s for the bed mounts, or have I missed that? Thank you for your hard work! Nice job!
I never really designed this for speed, if you keep the toolhead ( effector ) light it should be fine. However a delta printer this size should use 2040 extrusion
@@Rolohaun I'm more worried about the mass of the motors high up in the frame causing the center of mass being high to cause low frequency oscillations when coupled with the rubber feet.
I am working on a Flsun QQ-S that only had the top and bottom section, extruder rods, with all of the electronics. There were no columns to attach to. It came on and that was it. I have designed parts for it and I am using 2020 extrusion to mount rails. I have a number of control cards that I could use, plus an MKS Robin Nano Mini v3 that am thinking about installing. I have never built a delta printer from parts. I have an SWX1 that I am printing my parts on plus a Flsun Q5. Both of these printers have their proprietary firmware installed. I would like to install Klipper on this printer. Would you be able to help me regards to the firmware and its setup? I can handle the hardware.
I've been having a heck of a time wiring this probe up. I can't seem to get the board to recognize when the probe is being pressed. My settings work fine without the voltage comparator, but it isn't precise enough. When I wire the comparator according to TriangleLab's guide it doesn't seem to work. Any pointers?
@Rolohaun Super movie very helpful. Can you tell, me what is the electronics between the sensor, and the motherboard that you have connected to the level sensor?
I have been working on a super small delta printer for a while now and it seems to have the same issue that my Kossel has when i switched it over to klipper. Basically when I print a calibration cube, my XY dimensions are way off but my z is spot on, do you happen to have any tips or suggestions?
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Nice printer!
thanks!
Love this project, I'm considering building one myself. Just one question, with cheaper delta printers the biggest argument is that it can't really do straight lines. Is this still a thing when you use higher end components?
Also, I'm looking at running klipper on an old windows laptop, what Linux distro do you use? Thx
I have never heard of the issue delta printers can't do straight lines, when using klipper or modern firmware I don't believe you would have that issue. Calibration works perfectly, especially basic and advanced.
I use xubuntu for klipper and use the KIAUH - Klipper Installation And Update Helper
lolwut. Delta's are complicated mathematically, but actually very simple mechanically, simpler than any regular cartesian based printer quite honestly. And thats entirely the purpose of the firmware, to do all the complicated math for you and the net result is really no different to any other printer. Except that its print area is round, and its way faster than the average cartesian machine
The thing is Klipper has a very, very good calibration process for Delta printers using the advanced calibration process. And will do a really good job at compensate for things like a slightly sticky arm, or one that is maybe a tiny fraction longer/shorter than the others. This is very good for precision parts, my FLSun Q5 is extremely precise after calibration and holes are perfect friction fits that are uniform in diameter the whole way around (excluding the seam)
This doesn't matter for 'artistic' prints, but functional objects with precise repeatable tolerances its very, very good
Your videos are super informative. From a straight forward build for newbie would you recommend the Phoenix or one of your corexy builds?
thanks, I think either would be fine. Deltas need a bit more work to get going in Klipper but still pretty easy. The Rook is great for beginners the discord has a ton of info and there are build guides on youtube
@@Rolohaun thanks! what would be the electronics package you'd recommend that would work for either rook 180 or the phoenix? Would you still recommend the magnetic rods for phoenix?
I am planning to build your Phoenix Delta. Very excited! Do you have to the STL’s for the bed mounts, or have I missed that? Thank you for your hard work! Nice job!
I added the mount to my github
also follow this channel th-cam.com/video/6Z7U_VuAIF0/w-d-xo.html
He is a discord member I sold the delta too
@@Rolohaun Aw a shoutout
Do you have issues with oscillations having such a large mass high up in the printer when printing at speed?
I never really designed this for speed, if you keep the toolhead ( effector ) light it should be fine. However a delta printer this size should use 2040 extrusion
@@Rolohaun I'm more worried about the mass of the motors high up in the frame causing the center of mass being high to cause low frequency oscillations when coupled with the rubber feet.
I am working on a Flsun QQ-S that only had the top and bottom section, extruder rods, with all of the electronics. There were no columns to attach to. It came on and that was it. I have designed parts for it and I am using 2020 extrusion to mount rails. I have a number of control cards that I could use, plus an MKS Robin Nano Mini v3 that am thinking about installing. I have never built a delta printer from parts. I have an SWX1 that I am printing my parts on plus a Flsun Q5. Both of these printers have their proprietary firmware installed. I would like to install Klipper on this printer. Would you be able to help me regards to the firmware and its setup? I can handle the hardware.
Klipper does support the MKS Robin Nano, you can find the config example here www.klipper3d.org/Example_Configs.html
Do you know where I can find a macro for a delta that will purge around the bed?
you can look at the FLsun SR start code in cura, this is it
; Extrude about 40 mm by printing a 90 degree arc
G3 X0 Y-130 I130 Z0.3 E40 F2700
I've been having a heck of a time wiring this probe up. I can't seem to get the board to recognize when the probe is being pressed. My settings work fine without the voltage comparator, but it isn't precise enough. When I wire the comparator according to TriangleLab's guide it doesn't seem to work. Any pointers?
what mainboard are you using?
@Rolohaun Super movie very helpful. Can you tell, me what is the electronics between the sensor, and the motherboard that you have connected to the level sensor?
it comes with the sensor, it's a voltage comparator and is needed www.aliexpress.com/item/32841920169.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.21ef18024emw5p
can you share the nozzle fan support this is for the rapido hotend right ?
everything is here github.com/rolohaun/PhoenixDelta
I have been working on a super small delta printer for a while now and it seems to have the same issue that my Kossel has when i switched it over to klipper. Basically when I print a calibration cube, my XY dimensions are way off but my z is spot on, do you happen to have any tips or suggestions?
Have you ran the klipper calibration? it's possible your probe is not accurate enough to run the delta calibrate procedure?
Can you share the config.cfg? I’m building now a delta and I could use an exemple
I have info on github github.com/rolohaun/PhoenixDelta
Just out of curiosity did you ever have to run bed leveling / bed mesh calibration for this printer?
no I never needed a mesh
What board are you running and how do you connect the probe to it?
SKR mini if I remember, you can connect probe to a endstop or probe port
Why you calibrate with cold nozzle?
that is a delta calibration and can be done cold, you can set the z offset after.
Have you had issues for that probe? Is it pretty accurate?
It's one of the most accurate, and recommend by klipper
@@Rolohaun thanks, i could not any info about the sensor besides a couple listings
im in shock... how can it be that freakin silent?
Deltas are very quite haha
I am running klipper in stealthchop which does quiet the motors down and tmc2209 driver's help
@@Rolohaun I'm on Klipper with 2209's as well, but on a CoreXY. But I use spreadcycle because I need the torque...
What probe are you using? I am currently looking for a better probe on my delta.
www.aliexpress.com/item/32841920169.html?spm=a2g0o.9042311.0.0.27424c4dhh3L1w
@@Rolohaun How do you have it configured in klipper with that board? Just plugged into a spare port on the board>?
@@sprachen1991 it's just a endstop / prob so it plugs into that port