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  • @Jake_UpNorthFishingAdventures
    @Jake_UpNorthFishingAdventures ปีที่แล้ว +340

    This is all well and good, but I can't use medicinal cannabis to treat my mental health and sleep issues without being paranoid about losing my licence for having THC in my system. Then I won't be able to get to work, can't pay my bills, and everything will turn to shit. It's stupid because I know that medicinal cannabis works wonders for me.

    • @BwahBwah
      @BwahBwah ปีที่แล้ว +48

      This is changing soon. I hear Tasmania prescription holders can produce a positive thc test and as long as they aren't Impaired, they are ok to drive. Same I have heard in Queensland too

    • @xNatheeeGamer
      @xNatheeeGamer ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Same. Meanwhile, take cocaine all you want....

    • @SHADOWZANDLIGHT
      @SHADOWZANDLIGHT ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BwahBwahnegative for Queensland mate I hear same about Tassie but in QLD we can still be done based on presence in saliva not impairment

    • @groundworks81
      @groundworks81 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      only take the cbd oil without thc and you will have medicinal and a job

    • @limecat7996
      @limecat7996 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BwahBwah i need to look into this, im from tas this would be a god send. i find cannabis helps with ADHD symptoms, stress and anxiety. also helps me keep a apitite (was on anphetimines for a bit, legally from a dr) but just felt like a zombie and was only eating 1 meal a day most days.

  • @8101nevermind
    @8101nevermind ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I am now able to hold down a job dew to now getting proper amounts of sleep and my anxiety has been at an all time low in last 16 years because of medical cannabis...thank you to guys like this who work hard to get it right 👍

    • @robgoodburn6178
      @robgoodburn6178 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you take for sleep, how and the amount please?

    • @danielgonzalez-yp7hi
      @danielgonzalez-yp7hi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So just curious how do you get to & from work ?
      If you drive a motor vehicle & get pulled over you will pop positive for thc & be charged with drug driving, regardless if you have consumed any that day as thc stays in your system for up to 3 months, same goes for operating any machinery at work , this can have huge consequences especially if there is an accident & somebody gets hurt you will do prison time regardless if your at fault or not .
      The government needs to fix this law so that you only get in trouble if you are affected by the drug , similar to what they do regarding alcohol.
      Anyway I’m not trying to worry you or anyone but keep this in mind .

  • @grahammaranda3993
    @grahammaranda3993 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    Around 3 years ago my mate (brain cancer) was advised (yes I was present and heard the words) by a Professor of Medicine, "We can't do anymore go home and wait". His family put my mate on medical cannabis. Months later the medical doctors could not believe he was still alive. He survived for another 18 plus months which allowed him to put his life into order. PS: His family had to covertly obtain and administer. I weas proud to help.

    • @deicidalmaniac
      @deicidalmaniac ปีที่แล้ว +27

      That's sad to hear the system let your mate down, Even sadder knowing that your mate could have accessed medicinal cannabis legally if he was directed to the right clinic/doctor. Keep sharing your story, knowledge helps us all.

    • @JimmyChangE16
      @JimmyChangE16 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Mate bless you, so many have died prematurely because this type of treatment was out of reach and made impossible to obtain, hold your head up high! much respect

    • @schizofennec
      @schizofennec ปีที่แล้ว +7

      you're a great friend, thank you for giving him the gift of marijuana so he could live longer.
      Sorry for your loss. try to remember all the good times you shared with them if possible.
      💜

    • @geoffballe8766
      @geoffballe8766 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good man

    • @NZKiwi87
      @NZKiwi87 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can be proud of your part in easing his last months of life

  • @vhwft
    @vhwft ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I have chronic pain. I am on medicinal cannabis and it has helped heaps. My I have reports from 8 independent doctors stating it is helping, but one old specialist my insurance company sent me to stated there is no evidence cannabis reduces the pain and feels it is an addictive substance and I would be better off on opioid medications. I had an issue with opioids and have almost had an accidental overdose. I have got off all opioid medication and moved to solely medical cannabis.

    • @allaura64
      @allaura64 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very BIG pharmaceutical companies control the opioid medications, and those companies control doctors, politicians and just about anyone involved in healthcare provision, including private insurance companies. Their company profits, always come before your health, and they'll give you any flimsy excuse they can to pressure you into expensive opioid prescriptions that create a constant revenue stream for them. Cannabis more addictive than opioids!? LOL... since when.

    • @RapIsLife2000
      @RapIsLife2000 ปีที่แล้ว

      The doctors with old mentalities have no place in modern medicinal medication. It's been proven for 10s of thousands of years this plant works.

    • @michaelkeudel8770
      @michaelkeudel8770 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I picked up a new strain called ice cream cake over the weekend, and for the first time in years the burning/strain in my back muscles has gone 90% away, relief after years of pain.

    • @jadecawdellsmith4009
      @jadecawdellsmith4009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @JaiCahill-cd1uw gateway 2 what exactly? That's like saying tobacco is a gateway drug & I don't think anyone really believes that

    • @groundworks81
      @groundworks81 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      one of the biggest problems we have is, most doctors are idiots .

  • @maybee6918
    @maybee6918 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    I’ve known the benefits for years and I think we need to legalise it so everyone can enjoy the goodness. Take it out of the hands of criminals so that government gets the taxes and it will lead to a happier, relaxed and more progressive Australia. Weed over alcohol anytime.

    • @Googsmessiah
      @Googsmessiah ปีที่แล้ว +19

      The government having our best interests? Never

    • @poogle9368
      @poogle9368 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Oh yeah dude, our alcohol culture is actually crazy. Having more legal weed surely would stop a shitload of brain damage and overdose deaths.

    • @sypher0101
      @sypher0101 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "more progressive Australia" no thanks.

    • @olmansam348
      @olmansam348 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The criminals are the government 🥸

    • @SuiGenerisPerspicacity
      @SuiGenerisPerspicacity ปีที่แล้ว +2

      >progressive

  • @Jack-r2v9b
    @Jack-r2v9b ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Amazing how big business can operate but they still consider you a criminal if you want to grow it yourself

    • @ISmellGravy
      @ISmellGravy ปีที่แล้ว +41

      That’s Australia in a nutshell

    • @PhallacEye
      @PhallacEye ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah caus you aren't paying tax on your own plants. Thats all the Govt cares about.

    • @lesliedevlin8501
      @lesliedevlin8501 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      True true true thanks bro 💯💯💯👍👍👍 Les from Perth WA

    • @JasonBolitho1994
      @JasonBolitho1994 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      not true. you can grow ur own weed. and even if you get caught you are not considered a criminal. its decriminalised ffs.

    • @NullaNulla
      @NullaNulla ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@PhallacEye "Yeah caus you aren't paying tax on your own plants. Thats all the Govt cares about."
      YOU GOT IT DEAD RIGHT THERE!!

  • @CRFLAus
    @CRFLAus ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I've bought CBD from America for $60. The exact same product here in Australia with a prescription is $400. Between us the people and the gatekeepers of the government, we'll always get screwed. Australia is becoming an embarrassment.

    • @kenbellchambers4577
      @kenbellchambers4577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, 7,000 dollars a kilo for chinese lab-rat pot grown in Cananda. Insanity from the 'government' as usual.

    • @gaoxiaen1
      @gaoxiaen1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      WOW! What a scam!

  • @NeilJR
    @NeilJR ปีที่แล้ว +50

    State governments need to look at their DUI driving laws so people caught with medical cannabis in saliva during a roadside drug test are not penalized.

    • @stopandsmelltheroses104
      @stopandsmelltheroses104 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes imagine how many people drive each day after taking tga approved opioids like panadeine forte, oxycodone etc for chronic pain conditions. These drugs cause extreme drowsiness and affect coordination. Some of the medicinal cannabis products containing lower doses of thc wouldn’t have the same effect as opioids. Big Pharma doesn’t like the sales going down on their beloved opioid drugs.

    • @kenbellchambers4577
      @kenbellchambers4577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Give people who read positive in a roadside saliva analysis a test, similar to a sobriety test, to check for impairment. If they pass the test, leave them alone.

    • @smokesensation621
      @smokesensation621 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed. It needs to be legalised!!! I don't know a single person who has said that cannabis (medicinal or not) impairs their driving. In fact, they all say it makes them calmer and more focused when driving! Myself included!!!

  • @thegoldensnitch6312
    @thegoldensnitch6312 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Why do we need to waste money on clinical trials? They’ve already been done worldwide.

    • @kenbellchambers4577
      @kenbellchambers4577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Lady Wooten report, conducted by doctors, recommended to leave the pot users alone.
      The Panama Canal US Army Corps of Engineers report, conducted by doctors, recommended to leave the soldiers, that were smoking Panama Red, alone.
      The La Guardia report, conducted by doctors in NY City, recommended to leave the pot users alone.
      The Nixon report, conducted by doctors recommended to leave the pot users alone.
      This was all ignored due to the endless fabrications and dishonest lobbying put out by the American Brewers Association, mostly owned by Germans.
      Strange because alcohol is implicated in the majority of crime, but cannabis causes no crime at all. Leave us alone to grow our own, and you will have so much less crime and stupidity that the tax lost will be more than compensated for by far less stupid behavior caused by alcohol.

    • @NGC-catseye
      @NGC-catseye 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They have to meet the Australian Standards before releasing to the public. However, now I write this, I realise the hypocrisy of the so called vax that came out recently 🤔

  • @JamesS.254
    @JamesS.254 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    From ALL of the video's and article's I've seen and heard, this one video has one sentence that actually makes a really good point and a shty reason as to why this plant/drug hasn't been decriminalized and brought to market sooner, "it's a plant and can't be patented". It has always come down to money and greed.

    • @kenbellchambers4577
      @kenbellchambers4577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, I can grow iconic holistic pot for free. It is twenty times better than lab pot.

  • @outseeker
    @outseeker ปีที่แล้ว +17

    so true. this is not a thing that needs to be illegal, and it's not a thing that needs opiate-levels of security and concern. it's a massive industry, with infinite possibilities, that other countries will capitalise on if we won't. it doesn't need to be prohibitively expensive to grow, it is quite literally a weed, and none of it needs to go to waste. truly an ideal industry.

  • @HookOnFishingAus
    @HookOnFishingAus ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The problem is the laws around driving while being prescribed medicinal cannabis. Im not saying take the oil or vape the flower then get in the car and drive because thats dumb, but even 6-8hours later when not affected by the THC component, it still shows on a roadside MDT and the cops dont care, you're in the bin and off to court as a drug driver.

    • @brucejensen3081
      @brucejensen3081 ปีที่แล้ว

      There should be an impairment test, for pharmaceutical drugs too. You can be off your nut on diazepam, but free to go, cause they don't test for that. Whereas a person on 8% thc 15% cbd can have no psychoactive effect, but get done

    • @WorIdComingDown
      @WorIdComingDown ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *48hrs

    • @MrHendo90
      @MrHendo90 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I get nervous every time I drive

    • @kellygarsed2561
      @kellygarsed2561 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I heard in news this week there starting trials on the driving side of MJ , therel be guide lines just like alcohol

    • @LegendLength
      @LegendLength ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I haven't bothered looking at statistics but i'd bet alcohol is much worse for crashes compared to pot (taking usage rates into account etc.).
      If that's true then it's a good tool for the pro-marijuana side. It's hard to argue against.

  • @betty1497
    @betty1497 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    So good to see an Australian company working at the cutting edge of medical care

    • @kenbellchambers4577
      @kenbellchambers4577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So good! They get seven thousand dollars a kilo for what we can grow better ourselves in the yard.

  • @Swingin_wit_Willy
    @Swingin_wit_Willy ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have been on medical cannibis for 3 months now and my prescription med intake has significantly been decreased, I have more mobility and less pain, stress, anxiety and am able to work for longer periods of time. The cbd is a massive help during the day and it means that I don't have to consume food just to have a pill, which can cause stomach ulcers if not consumed with food... cbd does not need food, milk is enough to help metabolise it.
    The flower helps alot for night time pain and sleep.
    It should be legalised, but big pharma is still the go to even with all the know side effects of the pain and anti inflammatory pills.
    Hopefully soon.

  • @RS-uw2zm
    @RS-uw2zm ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Road side testing and workplace testing are keeping this medicine unaccessible for most Australians

    • @kenbellchambers4577
      @kenbellchambers4577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They hate it because good homegrown pot cures stupidity - can't have that!!

  • @LivingNomad
    @LivingNomad ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Only problem with medical cannabis ATM is price and variety of choice wish they would make it recreational already

    • @elsweeto6679
      @elsweeto6679 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea not to mention the constant “check ups” that cost

    • @33mavboy
      @33mavboy ปีที่แล้ว

      What are you on about, there is hundreds if not thousands of strains to choose from and the price is constantly getting cheaper? let alone the quality is usually better than street crap sold by bikies or chinahats, all the small growers that grow good non pgr cannabis, get raided because they aren't in the game and don't know how to watch out. Make it recreational? yes and also make it legal to grow personally.

    • @WhatisAPaladin
      @WhatisAPaladin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Price aint a problem wtf are you talking about? my mate uses it for his ribs and cant work but he can afford it perfectly fine.

    • @simonp9471
      @simonp9471 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Compared to street prices, it's way cheaper and much higher quality. I was smoking PGR trash before I got onto it. It's actually nice to have some bud that's 23-26% THC. It's nice to know what I'm smoking.

    • @jadecawdellsmith4009
      @jadecawdellsmith4009 ปีที่แล้ว

      @elsweeto6679 my local Dr here in Cairns only needs 2 b seen every 6 months & it's 35 bucks out of pocket. Not 2 bad IMO.

  • @quatermass8
    @quatermass8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    It works on Nausea as well. A funny story, once when much younger, my crew and I went visiting but I was pretty gooey at the time, felt like vomiting. Anyway we went in and sat down and they were passing the bong around. When it was my turn I just refused saying i'd throw up on the spot if I did that. I was pretty sure it would be the worst thing to do given the queasiness. However they kept pushing me saying id feel better, but I wouldn't have bar of it. They didn't give up. They were slightly bogan folk, mostly strangers at the time, and I eventually caved in under peer pressure. Now get this - about 3 to 5 seconds after the cone, my nausea completely vanished. And they were all just in the circle sitting there grinning at me! I was quite thankful. It was amazing how pronounced the change was. It wasn't a placebo situation as I was expecting things to go the other direction ! It felt like magic.

    • @davidm4677
      @davidm4677 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s miracle medicine I know about benefits for 30yrs

  • @NZ_sharpie
    @NZ_sharpie ปีที่แล้ว +28

    being a patient while i could afford it. it was the best treatment for my pain and stomach problems. but it was costing me nearly 950 a month i used it for 4 months but then had to go back to my old pills that are only 100 a month. now my pain and stomach troubles are back and now anxiety as i can go out much with out worrying about crapping myself in public!.
    im hoping for it to be subsidised for all soon. (40year old)

    • @ISmellGravy
      @ISmellGravy ปีที่แล้ว +12

      %100 agree with you it's so overpriced for medicinal cannabis. Just shows where the government has there priorities on. PROFIT!

    • @BigRick50
      @BigRick50 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Grow it in your backyard. 1large plant will get you high for a year.

    • @Schikitar
      @Schikitar ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like you need to be on a low FODMAP diet if not already..

    • @robyn-r3g
      @robyn-r3g ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, it is a bit of a rort, the way they run their medicinal cannabis companies. I could only afford it for a couple of months, also. They keep you poor by insisting on ongoing "medical" consultations, and then prescribing unsuitable medicine for one's particular condition. And, when you find something that works, it quickly becomes far too expensive. Oils, which I find to be more beneficial, are completely out of my reach at the moment. I would like to try transdermal patches, but they are unavailable in Australia.

    • @MrHendo90
      @MrHendo90 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The cbd oil is just too much. Hundreds for a bottle

  • @Judgeharm
    @Judgeharm ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am a PhD clinical psychologist. I absolutely ruined my back a few years ago. If I didn't have access to THC medications I don't know what I would do; standard pain meds did next to nothing for my nerve-related pain. I do wish there was more relaxed regulations about work with THC, at least on par with other medications. I can use 20mg of oxy no problems and practice. But I can't use a low dose oil for THC. Doesn't seem comparable. If the concern is that people impaired at any level cannot work then that is fine. But one medication should not be permitted, especially one that is highly addictive, but another cannot. Also the cost of about $130 for 10g is prohibitively expensive.

    • @cj54car
      @cj54car 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very well said.

  • @diocletianrecords1089
    @diocletianrecords1089 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Residents in care homes shouldn't be evicted for smoking cannabis.

  • @Antechynus
    @Antechynus ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Let us grow our own.... no one wants big business or big pharma owning access to this wonderful plant.

    • @whitewaterwarrior3339
      @whitewaterwarrior3339 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Then they cant tax you a million dollars

    • @republicofcasuals
      @republicofcasuals ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is my only fear in that they legalize it only for purchase and not grown at home....

  • @general_zizi1156
    @general_zizi1156 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have struggled with mental illness and my mental health since I was a kid. Before I even knew what those terms were. After years of depression, anxiety, and even an attempt to take my life, I never thought I would be able to live without psych medications. I clung to them because it was the only thing that made my mind quiet, but it also made me a zombie. Microdosing has given me control of my mental health for the first time, and they essentially gave me my life back.

  • @gardengeek3041
    @gardengeek3041 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I smoked it regularly for 30 yrs while running a small business. It diminished stress and chronic back pain. But,
    stopped using upon retiring, 15 years ago.
    By then, I found it was interfering too much with brain function. But, by age 70, like the lady playing piano, I picked up a very painful autoimmune disease, RA.
    Medical cannabis is no help on that, for me. It depends on a person's DNA. Change of diet and laboratory medicines help me lead an active life.
    Did not know Australia was so far advanced in this field of more natural medicines. All the best to researchers and suppliers!
    This was a very balanced and informative report.

  • @thegrindfather
    @thegrindfather ปีที่แล้ว +38

    its sickening how much money the government "needs" to process a piece of paper.

    • @whatilearnttoday5295
      @whatilearnttoday5295 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Almost like it's a scam.

    • @brianeno608
      @brianeno608 ปีที่แล้ว

      The fact it's 2023 we have electric cars and hydrogen power, we have landed on the dark side of the moon, and yet cannabis is still demonised in Australia and illegal. Don't even get me started on how auspolice test for trace amounts of weed to prosecute innocent civilians, any wonder sovereign citizens exist.

  • @neromax4424
    @neromax4424 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Getting it onto the PBS would truly open the door for these Aussie companies to have real opportunity here and not just a little overseas. I was surprised to learn it has been a thing here since 2016 yet there are still so many barriers these companies have to navigate to not even make profit, its bloody stupid.

    • @itslunoxia
      @itslunoxia ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Putting it on PBS does nothing but support huge pharmaceutical companies. If the government actually cared about medical or recreational users, they would legalise cultivation. Cannabis is not some mystical compound, it's a plant. Let people grow it.

    • @BwahBwah
      @BwahBwah ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I get mine under PBS. I only pay $7.30 per script. I'm prescribed 30g per script. 60ml 20% thc oil and 60ml cbd oil, all for $21.90

    • @allaura64
      @allaura64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @neromax4424 bloody stupid is right mate, the world is laughing at us, they think that Steve Irwin is our national mascot.

    • @theguvner83
      @theguvner83 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@BwahBwahhow and where?

    • @NullaNulla
      @NullaNulla ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@itslunoxia Whilst I agree with you, a good start would be at least "listing" it so those of us who are no longer able to work due to pain or whatever can at least afford the product properly.

  • @mmapng
    @mmapng 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My grandma had a bad case of athritis whilst we were in our other relatives house in austrailia, she had feinted and couldnt stand up without excruciating pain so we had called the ambulance. After they arrived i was suprised to see they had admistered her with some sortve cannabis medicine from which she inhaled and afterwards the inflammation and pain went down alot she said she felt so much better . this was in brisbane, sunny banks, the medicinal uses of cannabis can be really helpful for the elderly 🙏❤️‍🔥

  • @johnduncomb3519
    @johnduncomb3519 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My wife has chronic back pain, the specialists only action is reduce the opiates which makes life more intolerable. She can hardly function as the pain is so debilitating.

  • @Razor179100
    @Razor179100 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Please legalize it, rather this than drinking.

  • @hhhugz5826
    @hhhugz5826 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    It is an amazing plant with endless benefits. over use as with anything is not good for anoyone ( same with prescription drugs) but in moderation it can work wonders. It has been used for thousands of years, tried and tested.

    • @two-chicks
      @two-chicks ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's actually been recorded historically in writing for 7000-9000 years, thanks to the Egyptians and chinese records.. but the fact that we are born with cannabinoid receptors in our brains shows that our genetic link was formed over tens of millions of years ago

  • @Joshua-m1q
    @Joshua-m1q 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I do security on a very large organic commercial cannabis farm in NM. As someone who's tried it but doesn't use it while working on a recreational farm i think it's insane that Australia doesn't even have medical cannabis legalized.

  • @HebrewHammerArmsCo
    @HebrewHammerArmsCo ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wish my mum could afford it. Her opiate Pain Medication costs about $30 a month. She tried Medical Cannabis, Worked great for her, But that one month cost was about $400.

  • @soultrap8554
    @soultrap8554 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Until driving and and workplace laws are fixed its still only barely legal.

    • @Waluigi666
      @Waluigi666 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's insane right, I'm basically taking meth for my ADHD and driving on that is fine. But I take medical cannabis during the week and license 🤣

    • @NullaNulla
      @NullaNulla ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Unfortunately you're 100% right. It's screwed me with driving because I can't afford the risk but I can't not take pain relief else I'm liable to do something drastic. There is a push for the changes at least for medical users but the old gronks in the craphouse in Canberra just can't see past their own noses.
      Most can vape/smoke, go to bed, sleep it off and be ready to drive next morning alike boozing up all night but because they have invested money in chasing booze and it's "amount" in the blood, it's treated different. Bloody stupid!

    • @todddickson558
      @todddickson558 ปีที่แล้ว

      I take medicinal via oil and vape. I do it late in the day when I have nothing on and I can just relax. I take the oil before bed, and wake up normal because I'm no longer under the influence. But it will still show up on a test as positive. 'Positive but not under the influence' that's what I'll tell a court if ever charged. Time for the laws to come into line and sort this out or we will continue to clog the courts and waste more dollars.

    • @NFSWARFARE
      @NFSWARFARE ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I got a dui for pot was told it would only be a fine, paid that. 5 months later 3 month suspension, made work much harder to get too, depressed. Eventually got to 3 years since obtaining my license went to upgrade to fulls to drive my new car(barely over p plate power to weight restriction, over 20 years old probs as fast as modern camry) got told Nah gotta wait 6 months now to upgrade. That was start of 2023 I got my fulls July I'm still reeling from the 6 months and I'm a mess now mentally and physically, my anxiety and depression has gotten so much worse than it needed to all cause of some ignorant snob carnts in parliament that all have had ez lives while I'm out here suffering mentally for years cause things this government can't acknowledge I could go on I've just really being dealt the short straw

  • @Bartwon
    @Bartwon ปีที่แล้ว +41

    They do have to change the law to ensure those on low THC medical cannabis can drive. The current detection doesn’t discern small traces than larger

    • @lizdexamphetamine
      @lizdexamphetamine ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i reckon better impairment testing honestly. if youre talking about on the spot drug tests like RBT i mean. cause people who are on prescription medication for ADHD will test positive for stimulants and painkillers for opioids, right? and even when you are supposed to be taking those, impairment will happen, true? if you're prescribed, it's down to how impaired your driving abilities are, not how much is in your system

    • @lizdexamphetamine
      @lizdexamphetamine ปีที่แล้ว

      granted that leaves a lot of room for abuse of power but when isnt that a possibility. there are more in depth tests they can do to see how much thc is in your system as well they just arent instant

    • @whatilearnttoday5295
      @whatilearnttoday5295 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      High THC is also fine to drive on. There is no impairment.

    • @andrewmeiklem5098
      @andrewmeiklem5098 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cbd isolate is an option 4 drivers

    • @dunxy
      @dunxy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lizdexamphetamine Opioids dont trigger the lolipos mate, its only THC, amphetamines, mdma and when they feel like it coke. Actual impairment tests would be great, get plenty of the people who are impaired by just their skill and not just a litmus test that , especially in the case of THC, means nothing, while poor drivers get a free pass.

  • @MultiShmed
    @MultiShmed ปีที่แล้ว +13

    After the pandemic and the economy suffering, why would one not want a product that could heal the nation’s problems?

    • @youwantshum9860
      @youwantshum9860 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But how will poor old big pharma make any money?

  • @quirky559
    @quirky559 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I got onto medicinal cannabis in January 2022. I'm a chef by trade, at the time my sciatica was so bad I was struggling to get through a 40hr work week.
    The improvement in my sleep,pain and subsequently my mental health was quick and i was working 60-80hrs a week for 3months in better shape physically and mentally.
    It also removes the stigma users can live with, getting it from a pharmacy is a lot easier and safer than meeting some bloke in a dominos car park.

    • @Ozzierob
      @Ozzierob ปีที่แล้ว

      Big Pharma keep blocking it

    • @AI_Karen
      @AI_Karen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have sciatica too and i have to get mine the dodgy way but it works and now im more mobile.

  • @GGitsthePope
    @GGitsthePope ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've just had my nurse consult and will meet with a GP this week to discuss how oil can help me.
    I've had a back injury that's been plaguing me with chronic pain. I've spent $1000s on Physio, Osteo, Tramadol, Codeine. I'm 33 with a second kid on the way. I can't do this without pain relief. I'm really hoping the medical cannabis oil helps me. I have my whole life to live, I don't want to be a burden to my family, friends and colleagues.

    • @andrewlangton6570
      @andrewlangton6570 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try radio frequency if you haven’t already I’ve had three fusions it the only thing that helps no cure but helps good luck

  • @Smokejumper92
    @Smokejumper92 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It's fantastic to have seen the industry grow over the past 6-7 years and to have seen the benefits of legalisation in other countries is very promising, lets hope the polies accept whats coming.

  • @julietigermoon9572
    @julietigermoon9572 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It should be made available , such a versatile plant , it has been researched for its medicinal effects in many trials overseas. It should be made affordable because currently it’s quite expensive . Australian growers need a fair go .

  • @nananana-yl1hy
    @nananana-yl1hy ปีที่แล้ว +7

    absolute disgrace, what about the 1000s of people in jail for non violent cannabis offenses?
    its all ok now because big money wants onboard?

  • @jamesdean0885
    @jamesdean0885 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Recently began using from my doctor and has been very helpful along side other treatments.

  • @VictoriaWargaming
    @VictoriaWargaming ปีที่แล้ว +19

    eh it's still illegal in Australia? It was legalised here in Canada a couple of years back and there's been no downside - in fact, tax revenues have proven to be an upside.

    • @lizdexamphetamine
      @lizdexamphetamine ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i think Reefer Madness is still required viewing for members of parliament here

    • @peterpop-off
      @peterpop-off ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mate legalisation by 2046 will be lightning fast for Australia

    • @slatert1222
      @slatert1222 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah just gotta look at the tabacco rates to see what’d happen here

    • @THICCTHICCTHICC
      @THICCTHICCTHICC ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Australia has had a string of leaders who have literally no interest in touching the laws whatsoever because they don't want to risk losing votes

  • @hambone6741
    @hambone6741 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I hate the background checks for working legally in the cannabis industry here in Australia.
    The people with cannabis charges are the first people who should be employed in the industry legally.
    But they should have the option aswell to be educated if need be with course's in TAFE/University.
    Unfortunately convicted are told no your not in.

    • @pauljones6328
      @pauljones6328 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hence why it will take longer for them to find out the tricks to get higher levels of THC higher yields etc. People who have years of hands on experience and data ( you always log your grows to keep an eye on ph changes etc and end dry weight,lst vs hst, cloning at different stages reverting back from flower to veg etc) they only holding themselves back

    • @adamarzo559
      @adamarzo559 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pauljones6328 I don't know why there's this misconception that only street growers can grow good weed. Upstate is exceptionally good and I believe it's grown domestically.
      Do a THC test on street buds from multiple different sources, then do a THC test on multiple different companies who locally grow. I think the results will speak for themselves.

    • @PhallacEye
      @PhallacEye ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah caus you're considered a criminal risk for growing/consuming the product that they're legally growing. Ironic.

    • @ytthecommunistplatform.2675
      @ytthecommunistplatform.2675 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep the new ametures have no idea . Been doing it for over 30 years we have in aus .

    • @peterpop-off
      @peterpop-off ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Found the dealers!
      Y'all deliver? 😂😂

  • @Bathrezz1
    @Bathrezz1 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Her - i need cannibis for my chronic back pain
    Dispensary - No problem love, try this bottle, its $200
    Her - thats so expensive, why can't I buy seeds and grow my own for a tiny fraction of the cost
    Dispensary - NO THATS ILLEGAL YOU GO TO JAIL

    • @eyeswideopen7777
      @eyeswideopen7777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ppl will find a way to grow it

    • @FishiestFillet
      @FishiestFillet ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In half of Australia, growing your own plants is legal

    • @robyn-r3g
      @robyn-r3g ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? @@FishiestFillet

    • @enterpassword3313
      @enterpassword3313 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@FishiestFilletlol no its not

    • @zes793
      @zes793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@FishiestFilletNot true. It's decriminalized in the ACT, illegal everywhere else. It's not legal to grow your own plants anywhere in Aus.

  • @odyseeone
    @odyseeone ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The war on drugs is immoral. Those who perpetuate the war on drugs are immoral. Those who have the power to end the war on drugs but don't are immoral!

  • @tazsnoop1044
    @tazsnoop1044 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I have been a cannabis user for over 30 years and also have a medical cannabis proscription , I have always said it's no gateway drug it's helps in so many ways, but still can't wait until it is legal in all forms,, the government is stupid not to

    • @Yeahnahnahyeahyeahnah
      @Yeahnahnahyeahyeahnah ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s only a gateway in the sense that it brings people into the blackmarket and that not everything illegal is bad for you if it was legal then there would be no gateway aspect at all

    • @shawsie5780
      @shawsie5780 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve been a user for 20yrs and it helps in ways but it’s not perfect, I’ve currently been on a carnivore diet for 2months now and it’s changed my life, I’ve been a plumber for 24yrs and I’ve had pain and inflammation throughout my whole body, was treating with weed but once I changed my diet the pain left, inflammation left, my energy levels are consistent, muscle tone has returned, my mental clarity has been amazing, anxiety and depression has tapered off and I’ve dropped 12kgs.
      Why treat something when you can fix it with your diet

    • @odyseeone
      @odyseeone ปีที่แล้ว

      The truth is often inverted by the immoral controllers. Weed isn't a gateway onto harder drugs, it's literally a gateway OFF harder drugs! BECAUSE it's the only psychologically addictive while NOT physically addictive drug of abuse. This means you don't get tortuous withdrawals from it.
      Weed personally enabled me to get off painkillers, tapering doses only does so much to reduce the torture of withdrawal. Getting high (From weed) was the catalyst for making withdrawal bearable and actually quitting. Immoral people will claim it's just replacing one bad habit with another.

  • @micahcavanough6362
    @micahcavanough6362 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It shouldn't be regulated, just because the government exists doesn't mean it should control every aspect of reality, give the power to the people, stop government control.

  • @_Game0ver_
    @_Game0ver_ ปีที่แล้ว +11

    9:03 "You can't smoke a natural plant. Meanwhile, we get paid megabucks to play with our phones while serious issues are being put to parliament"
    - Our politicians

    • @zokie77
      @zokie77 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They only care about a topic when someone is giving them a nice lump sum under the table :)

  • @freeasihavebeendeceivedtob7361
    @freeasihavebeendeceivedtob7361 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Its “legal” as long as the gov has their fingers in the pie .

  • @unregisturd
    @unregisturd ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Australia, always so slow on the uptake...

  • @justmemimi7338
    @justmemimi7338 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you, Lamdline and ABC.
    This is an exciting burgeoning agricultural specialty in the making, by the sounds of it, with innumerable benefits.
    Wishing the growers the best of luck.

  • @eamonglavin2532
    @eamonglavin2532 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Got to sort out the legal landscape aswell, need to sort out drug tests that test for impairment rather than presence otherwise, fifo, rail workers etc. Are unable to use it and people who can are risking their licence every time they go driving.

    • @LegendLength
      @LegendLength ปีที่แล้ว

      And i'm sure a lot of those workers do use it and have that constant background fear of being fired. Can't wait till legalization.

  • @demo_sphere
    @demo_sphere ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This has been talked about forever now. Australia should just follow in the footsteps of places like Canada and just just legalize it already.

  • @wingnut6472
    @wingnut6472 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's pretty sad we live in the dark ages in Oz.

    • @JasonBolitho1994
      @JasonBolitho1994 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you think aus is behind then you live under a rock lol. we are so far ahead compared to so many countries in so many things.

  • @DaVe-iSnOtHoMe.MaN.LemmingsWeB
    @DaVe-iSnOtHoMe.MaN.LemmingsWeB ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Such a crime against humanity. The government's of the world . Would rather have their taxpayers be over prescribed unneeded synthetic CORPORATE PILLS. THAN HELP PEOPLE. CANADA made full on recreational weed legal and medical has been legal since 2010

  • @timan2039
    @timan2039 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The cost of licensing is a huge problem on top of the regulations at least in Colorado USA.

  • @ANJH1106
    @ANJH1106 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is great we need more folks who really work within living soil clean medicine!

  • @thebiz5942
    @thebiz5942 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I get nausea due to stress and sometimes food and anxiety. Medical cannabis is most definitely a life changer and most definitely works wonders. The next step is putting on the PBS so ppl can save money.

  • @greenthumb774
    @greenthumb774 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    All the STATES IN AUSTRALIA should have personal use LAWS like the ACT let us us grow a few plants at home for personal use why only the act is aloud this , because it's a politician state and they are two faced .. the average person always gets passed on .

  • @RolandElliottFirstG
    @RolandElliottFirstG ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Untill it's legal to drive a vehicle for chronic pain persons using these products in NSW the market wil be a lot smaller.

  • @slugnaholowaa7406
    @slugnaholowaa7406 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Best medicinal plant. This is what I use to treat my alcoholism.

    • @hongkongfueynz3071
      @hongkongfueynz3071 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've just started doing this too, a few drags to take the edge off the day, and instead I don't drive straight to the bottle store

  • @mssannysanderson9203
    @mssannysanderson9203 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Legalise Cannabis in Australia Now!
    Its crazy a person can wipe themselves out on alcohol (legally)but cant smoke a little weed without being a 'criminal'.
    Lets all move on already.
    David Shoebridge of Greens is pushing but needs support.

  • @lucyloose2841
    @lucyloose2841 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The bureaucracy surrounding legal cannabis farms not just in Australia but the world is an absolute joke

  • @carney26
    @carney26 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both my doctors GP and pain specialist both offered me legal cannabis due to my chronic back and knee injuries without even aking about it.
    Currently DVA pays for my Radiofrequency ablation procedures yearly. When it gets less effective I may start go this route but the biggest downside is not to be able to drive for 24 hours when using it.

  • @dorianvisser1922
    @dorianvisser1922 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Like Felicity I have a chronic pain condition caused by an autoimmune disease (Ankylosing Spondylitis)
    I won’t say it (CBD/THC) has been life changing for me but it has helped improve my quality of life (through pain reduction and better sleep)
    I hope that these products make it on PBS soon so people that aren’t in the financial position to afford these products have access to them

  • @jimijackson
    @jimijackson ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We need to legalise it already. Enough of ths theatrics. We can catch up to the developed countries like canada in a day, our politicians just have to get moving.

  • @sno4439
    @sno4439 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The use rate hasn't changed it's just they have decriminalised it for some privileged people

    • @warmage247
      @warmage247 ปีที่แล้ว

      Privileged? Get off your ass and pay the initial $150 consultation fee and get a prescription. It's literally that easy.

    • @JasonBolitho1994
      @JasonBolitho1994 ปีที่แล้ว

      explain why its a privilage. because its not
      its a plant.

  • @griffsrearmountturbothemod1623
    @griffsrearmountturbothemod1623 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Decriminalise it and let everyone heal themselves if they want ❤

  • @adamwaz5615
    @adamwaz5615 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When will they realize that there is no difference between medical and recreational when it comes to cannabis 🤦

  • @reverse_thursday
    @reverse_thursday ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Getting a prescription for medical cannabis literally changed my life

  • @OzMadMan82
    @OzMadMan82 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yet if i grow the plant to self medicate.. i get arrested!! Go figure!

    • @WhatisAPaladin
      @WhatisAPaladin ปีที่แล้ว

      ive been hearing a myth for years that your allowed to grow 1-2 (cant remember) plants in SA for recreational use. probs wont tho haha

    • @JasonBolitho1994
      @JasonBolitho1994 ปีที่แล้ว

      no u dont. lies and more lies lmao. you only get arrested if its a significant amount lmao.

  • @SuperHowie001
    @SuperHowie001 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Typical Australia last out the Blocks .

  • @Krustyclown5791
    @Krustyclown5791 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Our medical cannabis is weak. I now drink because I'm trying to get a break from pain. I'm not a drinker but 130 on useless cannabis that doesn't work. Thanks for hurting cancer patients.

    • @matthewcullen1298
      @matthewcullen1298 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm sorry you're so unwell Mate. I feel for you. I use Narooma flower for chronic pain. I have a bad back, wrists,knees ext, along with arthritis. I take codeine during the day and have a small amount of cannabis at night. People don't understand what it's like to live in pain 24/7 or that different things work or don't work for different people and treatment often has to be tailored to the individual. I'm lucky to have a very good doctor. Hope you find some relief Mate. I empathize with you. It really sux not being able to relax and sleep

    • @RypienGT
      @RypienGT ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Our medical cannabis comes in all levels. If you find THC levels of 25 plus, or hash, or strong oils are not enough for you then perhaps it's not the medicine for you.

    • @Krustyclown5791
      @Krustyclown5791 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RypienGT but Thailands cannabis is fine. I had 19% in Thailand and I was great. They worry more about ppl being high than actually helping the ppl.

    • @Krustyclown5791
      @Krustyclown5791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matthewcullen1298 thanks buddy. I'm just struggling because they worry more about if ppl being high than helping sick ppl.

    • @xNatheeeGamer
      @xNatheeeGamer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewcullen1298 As a support worker that supports someone exactly like you (heavily broken back, extreme chronic pain, lives on oxy/valium/tapentadol etc) - I feel for you man. I recently suggested cannabis to him and although it didn't "fix" him, he says it helps tremendously - moreso than the actual pharmaceuticals at times. Take care man, I somewhat understand how bad chronic pain is.... not good at all.

  • @fletcherstein-smith635
    @fletcherstein-smith635 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The driving Lawes need to be updated for all those patients that are not intoxicated and or impaired it should be tested differently truly unfair

  • @michaelyates4909
    @michaelyates4909 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Its so pricey to buy it's madness

    • @kellygarsed2561
      @kellygarsed2561 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the big problem the cost?? I know people who just couldn't afford it went bak to there dealers!!

  • @davidjohnstone7724
    @davidjohnstone7724 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hate how medical conditions are quantified as an economic unit. Who cares about a person's productivity when it comes to health.

  • @miatfitz
    @miatfitz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Horrendously expensive stuff. Average price is over $300 a month not including doctors appointment.

  • @leanneward5244
    @leanneward5244 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Should never have been made illegal. The Australian government needs to legalise and decriminalise cannabis now it’s way overdue 👍 should be used in all aged care facilities, hospitals and palliative care now to help reduce so much suffering 👍

  • @justinr9784
    @justinr9784 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thank the green gods that I can just go down to the chemist and get high grade, decent and regulated buds. Compared to the way I used to do it, getting into cars with strangers, dodgy grow houses etc... and it was just garbage and pobably full of chemicals.

  • @hinteregions
    @hinteregions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No one I know is buying the government's very low quality, very high cost, not especially medical weed.

  • @watchthislekkertje
    @watchthislekkertje ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing to see cannabis becoming more accepted ❤ from Canada

  • @miyui9269
    @miyui9269 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "if it gets legalized, everyone would just plant it. where's the profit in that?" - governments, dealers and mafias

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Times are changing.

    • @whatilearnttoday5295
      @whatilearnttoday5295 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really, people just figured out how to leverage the greed of politicians to enable a closed industry.

  • @prescriptionpete866
    @prescriptionpete866 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have tga approval, however the cost of the medicine became prohibitive for me unfortunately. I am hoping locally sourced companies will help solve that problem.

  • @Hectorheroic
    @Hectorheroic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cannabis smoker for 30 years. Decided to give up. I cannot put into words how much my life has improved. I'm every aspect. I just now regret the lost potential that I once had. A wasted life.

  • @anfr6634
    @anfr6634 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's life changing product and environmentally friend option - Have been saying for 30 years HEMP farming is the way to go and now medical cannabis is changing the game... nobody talks about the long term damage and issues many opioid and other pharmaceutical medications cause to the body, organs and mental health - not to mention - big pharma don't want you to get better, it generates $$$$ off keeping people dependent.

  • @darrylweidenhofer
    @darrylweidenhofer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Smoked weed for 42 years. I have breaks at times. Never been addicted can always operate do things. Mv son is hopeless on it. Not everything for everyone.

  • @tonylette974
    @tonylette974 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There’d be more if it was cheaper $280 a month is ridiculous outlay for medication

    • @kerrumz1
      @kerrumz1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least that number isnt far off the black market depending on how much you get.

  • @JasonBlack66
    @JasonBlack66 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LEGALIZE REC USE!!!

  • @serenitynowyolo
    @serenitynowyolo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No point legalising it. Blinking can’t drive with thc in system. They legalised it in Victoria but it’s useless as we are unable to drive.
    Australia is always behind in common sense.

    • @Steph.98114
      @Steph.98114 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not legalised in Vic lol, also if your a rec user you only need to wait 24-36 hours to pass a lick test.

  • @ayyyoo827
    @ayyyoo827 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just legalise it already!!

  • @Slayeranon
    @Slayeranon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I suffer from chronic pain cannabis helps me to move around without it pain is to great to move or even sleep

  • @TJ-ov1nr
    @TJ-ov1nr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Medical exemption for drivers please

  • @alienatedslayer
    @alienatedslayer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had back pain and I started getting medical weed 3 weeks ago. First time I smoked it my back pain was gone. That night I slept like a log. Love the stuff. Sleeping like a baby now

  • @LittleWeekendWarriors
    @LittleWeekendWarriors ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish the upcoming referendum was about legalising weed.

  • @kurtleywade2102
    @kurtleywade2102 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still not profitable eh. Meanwhile the government allow patients the privilege of purchasing 10 grams of dried flower from THEM for over a hundred australian dollars. You heard right, over 10k per kilo for a crop that costs less to produce than hydroponic tomatoes.
    Which government?

  • @randomacc1029384756
    @randomacc1029384756 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    let people grow their own, regulate commercial sale, stop allowing random dodgy middleman businesses (you know the ones, they charge $200 for a "doctor consultation") to take the bulk of the profits - very simple

  • @BarryHaird
    @BarryHaird ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Proffessor Iain McGregor just dropping absoulte facts! "Hard to identify anything that you know where the sky caved in because cannabis became legal"

  • @The_Stoic_PhilosopherAU
    @The_Stoic_PhilosopherAU ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Legalise it now!

  • @crossfishcreations541
    @crossfishcreations541 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hurry up and change the laws that treat patient drivers as criminals

  • @movieklump
    @movieklump ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Four young men who drink start a fight, four young men who smoke weed start a band.