Gundam Battle Operation 2: MSM-04 Acguy On The New Port Base High Tide Map
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I need more water based mobile suits. A lot of fun.
Finnaly some Water maps for amphibic suits. Anyone else hearing the Hygogg theme from gundam battle assault?
The Port Base(High Tide) and Jungle Maps are the ones that only really add anything for the Aquatic suits. You really cant call them water maps they are more or less hybrid maps that are mostly land with just some water. All one has to do is stay away from the water areas and it eliminates everything that gives amphibious the advantage and they become like they've always been.
@@Darth1Marik find it kind of hard to not do that on either map, since with port base it's easy to just fall in since you can get staggered off the pipes and jungle you have to go through the water if you want to get to the other side, also doesn't help both maps are sniper haven so staying on the ground would just get you shot
@@dageman1 I don't have a problem with it at all. As old as the Port Base map is anyone who has been playing long enough should have intimate knowledge of every aspect and area of that map. So far everytime I've been on the Port Base(High Tide) I stick near Beacon C and theres plenty of cover from long ranged attacks and I stay there and let them come to me. No amphibious MS has yet to catch me unaware. If you are having that problem then I hate to tell you that your spacial awareness needs work. I can understand on the Jungle Map since the River is present throughout the entire map in the center but on some parts of the map there is ample land to stay far enough from the river to see any amphibious MS coming at you. Unless it's an Acguy.
We must stop this Acgguy on Acgguy violence! D:
I’ve been killing it with transforming MS on water maps. You can fly underwater, it reduces boost consumption, and overheat recovery is quicker. Had a few good games where I do hit and run tactics by flying in and out of the water with Zeta gundam and Zeta plus. So much fun 👌
The two Gouf Flight Types *can't* fly while underwater though, so that's something that only transformable MS can take advantage of. I know because I tried to make my Gouf Flight Type fly while underwaterand I didn't have the ability to fly until I was back above the surface of the water.
gamester512 yeah, that kinda sucks. What I’m like to do when I’m using the flight types is once I’m close to over heating, I make sure to land in the water but close to where I can easily move out of. Taking advantage of the faster cool down is great I’m a pinch
Hopefully they'll add a water map with a big bridge in the middle.
Dude, I’d play that honestly.
Remind me how Daryl can make this funny looking MS looks badass. You should use his color scheme next time!
To be clear, any suit on the ground (or half submerged) has reduced radar range against anything under water, regardless of water compatibility. When fully submerged, suits with water compatibility maintain their above-surface radar range and suits without has reduced radar range. Whether the enemy suits have water compatibility is not a factor.
Enhanced radar level 3 and observation data link skills are must have for non-aquatic centric team composition in maps with large body of water.
Also, under water thruster and beam weapon overheat cool- down speed are increased, but regular thruster and beam weapon cool-down are not. GM White Dingo meme beam rifle time to shine?!
Hygoggs and Z'Goks and Guys, oh my!!!
Battle operations is really fun when you have good rounds
Lotta good stuff going on here in the game. Haven't hopped on in a minute because of time constraints so I hope everyone is having great matches and winning with their squads🙌🙌
Try a zock team in a match in a water map and just enjoy the ride into madness
Acguy is walking like they're about to fall face first
This could be compared to a pool. Acguy's playing in the water while the Zaku's and GMs just watching them making sure they don't get hurt. Until a Agg shows up-
I now need a entire Match purely underwater now...
Had an interesting 5v5 match here where no one on the team used an aquatic MS while the enemy had 2 Hygogg running around. Don't really know what those four were doing much of the match since a large chunk of it had me singled out by a PR Cavalry and the Hygogg til about 3 minutes left. Even then once everyone started coming together those three still seemed to have it out for me to the end.
It's fun to play the gogg in the new high tide map
God the water maps are so fun. Heck had one of my best rounds in one, surviving on my second life on 700 hp for three minutes.
Yeah, I had a pretty good match in the Jungle with my Gouf Flight Type (my first match ever using the thing to boot!). I was basically a total counter to the Acguys & Z'Goks (and their Stealth!) the enemy team had since I could spot them moving around very easily while I was airborne, and my team seemed to pick up on that pretty quickly since once I began firing my gatling shield, my teammates would then start heading that way as well. Even though I spent a significant portion of the match flying above my own base (the other team was being *VERY* aggressive about trying to base bomb us, so they just kept swarming in at us even from the very start of the match, but my team worked so well together that 2-3 members of my team would just focus fire one enemy MS at a time to quickly remove them from the equation).
Cool round
walks up to the water line and BAM a fucking ZOK walks up out of the water.....RIP
Acguys only MS battle would be too cute of a displays.
that camouf got alot of use out of his fake beacon this game
I've been enjoying breaking the Hy-gogg out again with the water maps, it's still to wide to be REALLY good but it feels better on the aquatic maps. I made the massive mistake of using an Acguy in 250 though thinking it would be fun to sneak around. Enemy Agguguy reminded me quickly that that suit is still OP and the Z'Gok I find still struggles it just doesn't have any really good weaponry and the melee range is so short it's hard to actually combo.
Waiting on a Hygogg round. Gonna be awesome
I wonder if we will get the feds amphibious...GM varient..i think they where
Anyone who wants to do well on the jungle map use the efreet nacht with a jungle camo and use the shrubbery and trees to your full advantage.
doesn't work if enemy suits have the ability to see HP bars, I've already caught several pixies and Nachts trying to do that and I just looked at their HP bars in the trees and simply smacked them while shaking my head.
Won't really work if the enemy team has an alert Gouf Flight Type (either version). They can basically spot you from a mile away as long as they're airborne. I can confirm as much as I was the Gouf Flight Type on my team and my enemy was 80% Stealth MS.
I played on this map with a ez8 WR and my God did u walk slow underwater it was pretty much like walking with broke legs
Map is too focused on water making non water MS worse
I'm surprised for the jungle map they didn't add the hover tank from 08th MS team seems like a missed opportunity.
Agreed. They also removed the Port Base Tank by C. No underwater tank adventures... even though our pilots seem to have gills now.
@@reeseolsen4052 I think the tank is only missing on the High Tide varitation
@@Darth1Marik Yeah that's what I meant.
These water maps have made me actually try the acguy after I just saw it as a slow, chunky machine
Are they gonna patch more suits for water? I thought gatsha or gelgoog marine would have it but maybe theyre not marine ms idk
I know there used to be a good map that the whole one side of was water i think it was Belfast base it would be awesome for this
Do suits like the gelgoog marine class as underwater suits too now?
Sadly neither of the Gelgoog Marines have water compatibility. They're both better suited for space.
I’m kind of disappointed we didn’t get a water suit for the banner this week, they didn’t even give us an aquatic suit we could unlock with missions. This water update was a big deal for everyone except the developers I guess.
I have a feeling that we'll see an aquatic Mission MS around Halloween at the latest. They might've wanted to hold back missions or special bonuses to coincide with either that, or the 1st anniversary of the game's international release which is also in October.
That would definitely be nice, I really hope you’re right.
Oh the new map came out? Does the water provide enough cover from up above?
It definitely makes it harder to see people down in there, if that's what you mean. It also messes with radar unless you're using a water-compatible MS as well.
Jungle feels claustrophobic. While this feels extremely intricate
The Jungle was designed so that the river is not ignored, the entire map was designed AROUND the river. The Port Base was an already existing map that never had any water in mind so the water had to be added. Port Base is the biggest map in the game so a large portion of the match can take place on land and away from the central area even though the central area is primarily where the combat takes place. If the teams decide to move to the sides of the map it takes the water part out and leaves the aquatic MS high and dry pun intended.
Where as the Jungle the river goes through the entire length of the map instead of just one part and the map itself is a long skinny area so this makes it to where players can't ignore the river. This means amphibious MS can use it throughout the entire map and non amphibious MS have to pay attention as theres not much room to maneuver and fight the enemy team away from the river. Where ever you are the river is always present on the map. Players can never take the fight away from the water as opposed to the Port Base.
Darth1Marik the river itself is also very thin. Which is my main problem. Hygogg needs a lot of space to use its fuel tank attack. It definitely requires more thought to fully utilize. Or I guess counter. Jungle is the more difficult map😂 not that it’s bad. Just very different
@@GrieveIV Unfortunately the design choice to make the river relevant on the Jungle Map is also it's big weakness. As you stated the river isn't very wide and if everyone is down there it turns into a huge clusterfuck. I think the devs intended for the river to only be used by 1 or 2 amphibious MS while everyone else fights amongst the trees. However this also makes it easy to know where the amphibious MS will come from , all one has to do is face the direction of the river and keep an eye on your radar and the terrain and you'll see them coming. People have been asking for a Jungle map since pretty much day one so it's nice to see they added one but I think it could have used a bit more work. But its what we got so gotta deal with it.
Darth1Marik yea. I could’ve gone for the whole map being scaled up just the slightest bit. Keep everything where it is, but space it out just a slight bit more. Cuz I feel the map as a whole becomes a bit of a clusterfuck. And I like to think that isn’t by design.
As I’ve said. It’s an odd map that definitely needs more thought in order to be properly fought in. Cuz it feels like there isn’t a “right” way to fight there. And I hope there is one soon
fair warning. anyone that runs into an acguy in Mario colors. that is me xD
My hope for a new water map to be like dark space where everything is water and the base ships are submarines or a thunderbolt water battle scene with the ship floating of the water.
Hybrid land/water maps were always a possibility but I don't think we'll ever get all 100% water maps. It would just make it unfair for non amphibious MS.
Acguy seption and we need more aqua suit like aqua gm with spear gun and functioning grapple claw
And maybe even a map at some point that is 100% underwater, and then give us some Underwater-only MS or MA.
Aqua GM, Gundam Marine Type, Guncannon Aqua, Atlas Gundam, Gogg (TB), GM Marine Type, Capule, Zaku Mariner and (if it makes it to Unicorn) Zee Zulu.
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We need marine zaku and marine gm
Yeah I really want those now too.
The gogg should be a 3 star now 😂
it's all fun into you pop in a game where they base bomb, and The other City map can't remember it's name that's really cheating they have water where the base at and you can't see under if you in a tall suit, you have to boost in the Middle to see under water there,
7:15 so not all stealth unit doesn't necessarily have anti-stealth.. the more i know. Thanks.
The Gouf Flight Type (both versions) are also great counters to Stealth MS as well, since they can pretty easily spot you even from far away while they're airborne.
@@gamester512 thanks for the tip. Unfortunately I'm suck at using the Flight Test type when I'm in the Mountains. Hopefully i have better chances in the open field & waters.
@@divrheinrheidigo81 I'm not that great with the Test Type yet myself, both Flight Types take some getting used to (if it helps, Flight controls are pretty much identical to Space controls), but the standard version I'm much better with since it's primary weapon is the Gouf Custom's Gatling Shield. Sure, the standard Flight Type doesn't have a dodge roll or the missiles that the Test Type has, but it honestly doesn't seem to really need them. The Flight Type is likely going to be keeping it's distance and trying to use it's flight capabilities to it's advantage and rely mostly on it's ranged weapons rather than it's sword.
@@gamester512 what cought me off guard is that flight mode was just minor hovering.. u need to ascend manually first.. i thought of using it as an escape by jumping then fly.. but doesn't work that way.. so much different than a transformerable type where u can just fly off
@@divrheinrheidigo81 True, but it also offers you different options while you are airborne.
Transformable MS, like the Zeta Plus A1 for instance, can't remain stationary while they are airborne, they are in constant motion and they also lack the ability to move backwards while flying.
Meanwhile the two Gouf Flight Types are actually capable of 360 degree movement while also being capable of just hovering in place in mid-air, which can definitely be useful. For one thing, it makes them much better at scouting and recon since they can give themselves a stationary look over the entire battlefield, which can then help them figure out where they would be most useful to their team, such as by reinforcing an outnumbered teammate, or putting an enemy or two into the position of being outnumbered.
So, basically, both types of flight are useful, but in distinctly different ways. Neither is inherently better or worse than the other. :)
Water has made Support MS worst. Raids have easier time sneaking up now
Then take the fight away from the water. This can be easily done on the Port Base and Ruined City. The Jungle was designed around the river so can't really do it there.