Corrections: I drew Risto Ryti as president of Finland, which he was from 1940-44. I mixed the names of Risto and Kyösti when I drew Risto. Also, Risto was replaced by Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim in August 1944. This is the biggest mistake in my video, and the one that I'm kinda embarrassed that I didn't catch. The Soviet union did not come to Germany to propose the Molotov-Ribbentropp pact, it was the other way around. Finland declared war on the USSR, but the Soviets did air raid Finnish cities before the declaration.
Hello Globeraphy just found your channal It is wonderful But I have a question at 0:04 how did you get the whole map of Russia on googke maps? Please tell
@@AyushKumarSingh9711 I'm assuming you're asking about the map of the Soviet Union. No, I didn't get the whole map of Russia on Google Maps. I took multible screenshots and combined them in my drawing program.
Fun fact: Finland was in WW2 at war with USSR, Germany and the UK. Of the capitals of war-waging European countries only London, Moscow and Helsinki were never occupied.
Fun fact: the reason why finnish forces were slow to chase german forces after the battle of Rovaniemi was because they found german’s liquor supplies.
The situation vas strange. Without Germany, Finland was occupied by CCCP. During the war we get weapons and food from Germany untill we must fight against then. It was really not a pleasure.
A local preach saw the soldiers drinking after the City had Been liberated and according to story yelled at them "is this what a Finnish soldier is like?" ("tälläinenkö on suomalainen sotilas?")
Quite good video, but a small strange detail is noticeable: Kyösti Kallio looks more like his successor, Risto Ryti. If you've seen a picture of Kyösti Kallio, he had a pretty damn fluffy mustache. Also, in addition, Kyösti Kallio died in 1940, so he could no longer be the president of Finland during the Continuation War, which began in 1941.
He should have mentioned the syyskuun manooverit/ september manovers. I also would have mention the braking apart of the back room deals between the germans and the fins and the ordeal devolving into a war.
Fun fact: Out of all the countries that were required to pay reparations from World War II, Finland is the only one known to have paid its bill in full when it sent $300 million to the Soviet Union in 1952.
A note on the Lapland borders, the border adjustment with the annexation of Petsamo wasn't the last change. In 1947, a small wedge near Inari was sold to the USSR. Most people miss this.
Indeed, after 1944 the Petsamo boarder looked like it had looked since 1809 but of course with the 1940 boarder adjustments The last adjustmed was in 1947.
Wow, you covered a section of WW2 I have never heard about! So even Finland can consider itself a victim of german occupation, that's very interesting!
Its more an example of inviting over troops to help assist you against another enemy and then when the war is over those same troops stay and refuse to leave
Actually I agree with that notion, because Finland also actively participated in the Schoa may it only have been to a little extent. But treating Finland as the good exception of the axis members is wrong in my eyes. I still consider the people of Lapland victims of these destructions commited by the Wehrmacht there, as they had little to do with that@@Globeraphy
In Autumn 1944 (after the armistice between Finland and the Soviet Union), Finland and Germany had a tacit agreement that German troops can retreat to Norway and Finns won't attack them. But Stalin thought that Germans are not retreating quickly enough and thratened Finland with occupation. So Finns were forced to attack Germans.
We have an outdoor sport field in Rovaniemi called Rommelin kenttä (Sportsbahn Feldmarschall Rommel) wich means Rommels sportfield. It was constructed by the germans during the war and was named after Erwin Rommel. They held sport matches there between the finns and the germans for example in football and ice hockey. The field is still in use, when I was in school almost all of my PE classes were there.
@@drunkenpeanut6582 censoring the flag of a historical nation is censoring history. Just as censoring hateful events or hateful people would be censoring history.
@@drunkenpeanut6582The right has a tendency to take perfectly fine things and turning them into symbols of hate. Censoring them is letting them win. They do that now and they did that then.
there is this little event during the liberation of Tornio which likely contributed to the failure of the greater operation. The Magic Night of Tornio (tornion taikayö). The Finns found a German booze storage and after securing the town they started, hmm, evacuating the storage by any means possible. Both soldiers and civilians started filling cars, carts, prams, anything with booze. The commander of the 11th infantry regiment described the event with the following quote: "My tired and hungry warriors absorbed firewater like sponges and soon all hell broke loose. People sung and screamed, shot and smashed into pieces everything that they saw. A thirsty finn dismantles a board shed shockingly fast if on the other side there is booze"
At 1:55: While the mountains are a little unrealistic for Eastern Finland, they're not unrealistic for Northern Finland (AKA Lapland), but there is another point. The Finnish forests are LITTERED with massive boulders that were carved and moved around by the receeding glacier of the ice age. These boulders are more effective than the modern Russian Dragon's Teeth and very much perform the same as a mountain. Since both bolders and mountains are made out of rock and serve the same purpose, I think it's relatively safe to give you a pass for the inclusion of mountains, gets the message accross; Finnish forests are not hospitable for tank maneuvers. This is what forced the Soviets to stick to main roads instead of going Deja Vu over the country side.
@@Caldera01 My previous comment wasn't about semantics. The shape of the mountains isn't a semantic issue. (This comment *is* about semantics, however.)
As a finn I must say, this was a really good video. Probably helps that you are clearly nordic as well. Maybe they actually teach some of this stuff in norwegian schools. But seriously, really good video. You earned a new subscriber. :)
They actually don't teach this in Norwegian schools. The most that came from Norwegian schools were "So, Germany needed to retreat from the Soviets. They used the scorced-earth policy everywhere in Finnmark. Anyways, Germany surrendered on May 8th"
@@Globeraphy I read somewhere that you guys celebrate the Soviet army with Russians each year as liberators. Perhaps the king joining in even. I wonder how many countries do that ... or is Norway the only one? I don't mean to imply it's wrong but nevertheless a strange curiosity.
I have never heard of Norwegians celebrating the liberation of Finnmark by the Soviets. Maybe it's a Northern Norway thing, but I've never heard of it.
@@Globeraphy Apparently it isn't a big thing then. But you can easily find articles on the celebrations on the net. Lavrov was a quest of honor in 2018, it seems.
First time watching you, your one of the only historic content creators that got the borders, adjustments, advances etc right. I find it laughable that even big history Chanel’s often mess up borders or flags, good work !
I do understand why big history channels mess the borders up. The maps takes like 2-3 hours to make on average, and those guys need to actually upload frequently
Finland also wanted more than their old lands if Germany won WW2. They wanted all of Karelia and made a resource agreement with Germany to get the Kola Peninsula Fantastic video btw. You’re a really good channel! :)
It was more of a thought between soldiers of greater Finland. For the sake of foreign relationships we decided to stop attacking but we did go further than planned in the beginning
@@Finlandia207 It’s more that after Stalingrad the outcome was obvious to everyone who wasn’t delusional 💀 But in that year when no one knew Ryti himself approved these plans
@@Demons972 No they didn't. There were propaganda songs about "Ivan running behind Ural mountains" and people get ideas about that. But they were just sarcastic jokes of the 1939 attackers now running in front of Germans.
It's always fresh and nice to see videos about "smaller/forgetten" battles/wars. Though few points were little bit too oversimplified, especially the time leading up to winter war including reasonings for Finnish side to not accept Soviet proposals.
probably since it wasn't part of the lapland war. But he could have gone deeper into that the finns stopped the viipuri-petroskoi offensive. Basically half of all finnish movies made are about these battles. Battle of Tali-Ihantala etc. This is why the soviets stopped pushing and offered a new peace deal.
Real good video I didn’t expect it to be as good as it was. I’ve heard about this part of the war, especially from the movie, Sisu and the channel Eastory but only briefly
I knew for years that Finland was attacked by the Soviet Union and they attacked the Soviet union back at them when Germany attacked. And I knew that they left during late September, but I didn’t know all the details about how they left it till now.
5:09 I think it's more that the Soviets re-used the tactic that ultimately won the Winter War: Massive push through the Karelian Isthmus. The Vyborg part. Finns then were forced to retreat in the east without much resistance for the fear of being cut off.
Never thought i'd see a video about the "Childrens Crusade" on youtube. It was a nice presentation, all though the reason for the war was more akin to "if you don't attack the Germans, we will move forces to Finland to attack them for you", instead of the Soviets asking Finland politely. The premise of the continuation war and Finland constantly switching sides isn't all that confusing in reality tho. It starts with the Winter War, at which point Finland was still a Neutral nation that was making military deals with the Allies, but when the Soviets invaded, the allies ultimately refused to support Finland, as the Brits were predicting that at some point there would be a war between the Soviets and the Germans, which in turn would side the Soviets with the Allies (and to their credit, they were right). So they decided to leave Finland on its own, in order to maintain good relations with the Soviets, cause Finland didn't have anything valuable to provide them nor were they keen on fighting the Germans. After the Winter war, Finland assumed that another war with the Soviets was inevitable and they began a process of rearming themselves, however the Allies still refused to trade military equipment to Finland for the same reason as before. So Finland went to Germany and since they were already full scale preparing for the upcoming invasion, the Germans promised Finland a massive amount of military equipment and the other supplies for the low low price of allowing the Germans to move through Finland, in the event of a war with the Soviets. Both sides knew full well, that the Soviets would declare war on Finland instantaneously if this was to happen, if the Soviets weren't in war with Finland already by the time that the Germans attacked. This is exactly what happens, Germany attacks and moves troops through Finland, Soviets tell Finland to attack them, Finland says no = Continuation war begins. During the Continuation War, Finland's high command refused to go past it's old 1939 borders, despite German pleads and some Finnish politicians desires, as the high command didn't want to go to war with the rest of the allied nations. After the Soviets won the war on the eastern front and signed a peace treaty with Finland, so that it could focus on the main front with Germany, it was relatively easy for the Allies to rewrite the whole Finland narrative as Finland being "strong armed" to work with the Germans. This narrative would serve an important purpose for the Allies in the post war Europe during the Cold War, as Finland was now seen as a key buffer state between Soviets and Norway. So they did some "historical revisionism" to the history of Finland in the narrative sense, to sell the idea that Finland had always sided with the "west" (which is true to a large extent) and presented them as an "allied" nation during the final stages of the war. Ironically the Soviets saw the neutral Finland as a key buffer state between them and the west, as long as the west couldn't use Finland to launch an attack, so they revisioned the historical narrative to Finland leaning towards the "east" after 1944. This lead to an interesting period in Finnish history, where Finland was trying to strengthen its ties with the west while assuring the Soviets that all western "invasions" would be met with force. Essentially both sides of the Cold War saw it in their best interest not to present Finland as an ally to the Germans, which is why Finland is presented as a nation going from Allies --> Axis --> Allies, with the changes being tied to political leadership at the time, while in reality it was more like Neutral (leaning towards allies, except soviets, don't want to fight Germany) --> Allied with Germany in the East (not Axis) --> Neutral (under Soviet occupation). The way that this is period is presented in Finnish history books made in 60-80's in particular, is confusing as all hell, as it feels like the narrative changes every 2 years or so. P.S: Sorry for the wall of text.
Atleast back in the days, 13 years ago, my history teacher said how this subject is ignored even in Finland, as Finns would feel some national shame for backstabbing Germany. Its just weird how the stigma has carried for 100 years soon.
@@jarskil8862not too sure about that, atleast in my school we went through the Lapland war, not for long though as it was a short conflict And yes, I am a finn
It's not correct to say that Finland didn't declare war. Finland did declare war on June 25th though the Soviets had already done some attacks a few days earlier.
Simo Hayha, also known as the white death, is the deadliest sniper in human history fighting for Finland in the winter war during WW2. The winter war was fought between the Soviet Union and Finland. It would span 1939 (shortly after the fall of Poland)-1940. (Shortly before Norway fell). Though Finland lost the war overall, they won in the numbers having far fewer tanks and soldiers lost due to the war. In the middle of the winter war Simo Hayha would get shot in the face and have to have surgery to stay alive. Due to this, he was unable to fight for the remaining months of the war. Simo Hayha had over 500 confirmed kills and died in 2002.
I have heard so many times that finnish people are nazis and i don't get why some people say that. No one said it in this video. Our land is small but people living in that land is strong. That hate of people saying "you were allies with german so you are nazi. Its like saying that every german is nazi and that is far from the truth.
@@ToveriJuri Well if you read comments in almost every video of Talvisota, there is some idiot saying that. We are nazis because we were fighting to defend our country with nazis. Not that they were doing much of that defending but still. I hate hearing that nazi shit because that does not make us nazis.
@@RIPTurhaAKACryptidHunter Yeah some random troll on youtube comment sections. I don't count youtube commenters as people until proven otherwise. Any Rutroll can post whatever the hell they want here. and there's no post history or anything to be seen. So let me adjust my statement. I almost never hear or see real people say it.
@@ToveriJuri yeah you are right about that one! There is people trollin internet and I don't count those all as normal people, but so many of those comments I seen so there must be some idiot who really means it...
Google "concentration camp in Petrozavodsk" and say it again. I don't think children were dangerous for Finnish independence. It doesn't mean current country is guilty, but in WW2 Finland committed enough war crimes to be called nazis government at that time.
These videos are awesome. Most of us dont care if the quality is "bad", the serbian province with autonomy video was perfectly fine. (Im not even gonna attempt to spell it)
The Germans began hostilities first with Operation Tanne Ost on 15 September 1944. Granted, it was largely independent of events in Lapland, though it is seen as the start of the Lapland War.
The German army in Lapland would have withdrawn to northern Norway according to their own plans, but Stalin forced the Finnish army to pressure them more actively,
Vyborg-Petrozavodsk offensive was not represented so well in here: Even tho Soviets were able to capture Vyborg, there were many important battles after that (battles of Tali-Ihantala, Vuosalmi, Vyborg bay and Nietjärvi). Those defensive battles made sure that Soviets lost their interest to march all over to the Helsinki and started to move troops to the fronts in Germany.
Don't get it twisted Soviets had the capabilities to march down to Helsinki if Stalin wished to they had the numbers and equipment to conquer Helsinki but the main priority was of course Berlin
@@XGD5layer yes but and Soviets lost 1 million men in Stalingrad alone I don't think Soviets are concerned about losses as long as the objectives are accomplished
@@JDDC-tq7qm Aside from that it bore Stalin's name, Stalingrad was on their own soil, a major transport and industry hub with the capacity to support millions of people, of course they would grind as many of their men as needed. In the 1940s Finland had nothing more to offer than being a buffer zone. It had no industry to speak of, was not an artery for any kind of trade that couldn't be done through St. Petersburg and could not support any kind of large population. Why would you throw two-three million people at a place that can at most sustain maybe three times of that, other than being a security buffer zone which frankly requires an even larger border guard than the current border
i already knew finland and germany went to war in late-ww2, but i didnt know why or what happened during that bit of the war, tysm for the information :D
Hey brother I really liked this video!! Real Good quality 👍👍 just one thing though, I can see that you heavily inspired by oversimplified and that’s okey but sometimes it can maybe get a bit to much similar with the music and jokes, so just a tip! try to create you own way of making videos and more people will enjoy them!
I seem to recall a detail that you miss here, in that the Russians wouldn't allow the Finns to use any of their established military units to push back the Germans. So the Finns were forced to use new conscripts. Wasn't this war called The War of the Children by the Finns as a result?
@@MimOzanTamamogullar One of the requirements in the armistice with the Soviet Union was demobilization. Therefore, compliance with the armistice required that existing units be demobilized and new ones created.
I liked this video and I personally have never before seen a video about the Lapland war. Howerver there is a small detail the bothers me. During the Contuniation War we see a figure labeld Kyösti Kallio. He was the president of Finland from 1937 to 1940 when he resigned due to seriois helth issues which led to his death later on that year(1940) so he wasn't aleive during the contuniation war.
I think it would've been worth mentioning that Finland technically did not start the continuation war. After Germany started Barbarossa, the USSR bombed some finnish cities, which then caused Finland to declare war.
In the war h1tler actually had very good relasitions whit finnland ane made a good amount od visits there (sorry of i wrote something wrong i speak finnish not english)
1:05 This is the first time someone who is trying to be education actually showing the more or less correct demanded new border. Only thing I would add, is that the Soviets actually offered the same amount of land elsewhere as compensation.
Finland was accepting one of the soviet suggestions, but in exhange Finland demanded enforced non-agression pact to be extended. This was not ok to soviets. So what do you think it means, if Giant military super power wants to exhange nature fortified areas to piece of non strategic flatland, and then refuses to promise further peace?
@@jarskil8862 I know that Stalin's goal was to totally subjugate Finland. I'm just adding a fact. And not only was the Mannerheim line a naturally fortified position, it also had considerable defensive structures. If you wish to debate this further, I'm more than happy, since after moving from my home town, I haven't been able to teach history.
The biggest loss of Finland here might be the Arctic port city of Petsamo. Although a small town, having access to the Arctic Sea can be an advantage economically largely due to global warming with the melting of polar ice caps. However, with the current geopolitical events of today, who knows if someday Petsamo goes back to Finland or if they become part of a new country?
This is the first video of yours which I watched and it was very entertative as it kept me interested. Your videos remind of me Oversimplified and John D. Ruddy, I know you are quite new when compared from others but I hope that your channel grows well. And you continue to make such entertative videos.
Kyösti kallio wans not he presisdent during the continuation war. He died in 1940. Also the stick figure looks more like Risto Ryti the president after Kallio
The Soviet demands during the Continuation War were unconditional surrender, not land consessions. Only after the Soviet summer offensives did they offer conditional surrender which Finland accepted.
@@XtreeM_FaiL In order to enforce a peace agreement in benefit of the other side one must capitulate. There was first the Moscow Armistice, which was a temporary one in order to stop hostilities, which means the terms for peace could change later, hence Finland surrendered to terms Soviets initially demanded, and to further demands that were not yet agreed upon.
@@speedruiner7213 The word you're looking for is truce. To some it might sound like surrender, but it's still not the same. Also you have to remember that the war had changed. Allied forces had already won, but the war or race to Berlin was still going on and ruskies were also looking ways to end the war between Finland asap.
@@XtreeM_FaiL That is not the word I am looking for since truce does not typically carry conditions other than cease to hostilities on both sides. In order for the Soviets to agree to ceasefire, Finland was subjected to additional conditions to agree upon, hence why it is called an Armistice. While Finnish army and nation still stood, surrender was what the Soviets expected from Finland and surrender it was for the Finns too, since that's how they themselves addressed it to the nation.
Funny how Germany was doing Operation Barbarosa on Soviet Union, but Germany and Soviet Union actually co-operated to invade Finland, and somehow two of the greatest powers in WW2 failed to take on a surrrounded, small, and "kinda weak" country.
3:00 I wouldn't say that Finland attacked USSR to regain their lands bc Soviets bombed Finnish cities first Edit: Also I'm pretty sure Kyösti Kallio died before Barbarossa
There is an almost 100% chance Finland would have joined eventually. And they didn’t just want their old lands back, they wanted Karelia and the Kola Peninsula if the Germans won.
@@Adrian_xx40 Yeah I’m not blaming them to be clear. Honestly the majority Balto-Finnic Karelian parts of Karelia would’ve voted to join Finland anyway in the interwar era if given the choice. For the Russian majority parts, if the USSR has fallen anyway, they prefer the Finns to the Germans lol (even tho Finland was probably going to deport most of them to either Kola or Moskowien)
As country of 4 million Finnish first stopped 168 million Soviets entering more than few dozen kilometers into Finland - they were confident to kick German Reich, nation of 80 million, out of North Finland. Using no more than 100 fighters and few dozen tanks.
@@JDDC-tq7qm To be more precise: Because Germans lost in Moscow, Stalingrad and Leningrad, Finland had to find ways to make peace with the invading Soviet union.
I'm Finnish and this video gave me multiple good chuckles or made me actually lol a bit:D So I defienetly will sub now! I did'nt know before this video that the "city" of Rovaniemi (considered a city in Finland) was destroyed/burned to the ground 90% throught in 1944....
Leningrad was the second largest city and was a center of culture, population and industry. Wishing it to be protected by buffer land was fair. The problem was that the buffer land soviets requested was pretty important for the finns, and soviets didnt have any equally important land to offer.
@@Gooberman-yv1fpyep but we all know they wanted whole finland as a buffer. The land that they took from winter war was irrelevant as we saw during continuation war
But at the same time, Finland would have lost major strategic locations, Islands and would have had Soviet troops right next to it's capital (This is how the Baltics got annexed)
To this date as a Finn I still cannot figure why some respect either Hitler or Stalin. They both are the axis of evil to me. One offed himself, then was ashed to oblivion so no one finds his remains. The other was among the winners, then was embalmed and celebrated.
I've never heard of people that respected those leaders after their death. I'm assuming they still are respected by a few around the world, but those are idiots that think communism and fascism works.
@Globeraphy Well if communism did not work, planned economy did not work we would all live in Greater German Reich now probably. And Stalin was the Head of that. Next people will say „bbbb but communism killed so many people!“ and I will answer that by all means capitalism killed by far more people in the 20th Century. To this day capitalism can not solve any human problem. That is world hunger, wars, etc. Funny to read something like that and then remember how capitalist America burned over 2 million in Vietnam in their imperialistic interest, armed mudshahedins that later turned into taliban and in general waged most wars Post WW2.
This is definitely real. Not long ago some German explosives were found in Lapland. They boobytrapped everything possible and filled nature with mines.
Finland didn't start Contunation war!!!! Sovjets bombed Finland citys 5 day before. Then Finland president say; it looks we are in war!!! Read history.
you're thinking of the Swedish lapland wildman emblem, which has the Wildman in red skin, what he shows is Finnish lapland Wildman emblem, which has Wildman in normal skin tone
Im from Finland,and live in a small city.Theres a big school that i attend, called "Juho Oksan Koulu", and i found out propably like a year or two ago,that it was used as a hospital in the war. and now some idiot made a legend of "The ghost Of juho oksan koulu" and that there were dead soldier bodies in the basement.
Corrections:
I drew Risto Ryti as president of Finland, which he was from 1940-44. I mixed the names of Risto and Kyösti when I drew Risto. Also, Risto was replaced by Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim in August 1944. This is the biggest mistake in my video, and the one that I'm kinda embarrassed that I didn't catch.
The Soviet union did not come to Germany to propose the Molotov-Ribbentropp pact, it was the other way around.
Finland declared war on the USSR, but the Soviets did air raid Finnish cities before the declaration.
Hello Globeraphy just found your channal
It is wonderful
But I have a question at 0:04 how did you get the whole map of Russia on googke maps?
Please tell
@@AyushKumarSingh9711 I'm assuming you're asking about the map of the Soviet Union. No, I didn't get the whole map of Russia on Google Maps. I took multible screenshots and combined them in my drawing program.
Oh thanks
You are such a nice person😊
@@Globeraphyim from Finland
Yes, Hitler proposed to Stalin to invade Poland where Soviet Union can take 2/3 of it.
Fun fact: Finland was in WW2 at war with USSR, Germany and the UK. Of the capitals of war-waging European countries only London, Moscow and Helsinki were never occupied.
I remember reading a wikipedia article about the only battle between finland and the UK ending in the UK having more losses and retreating.
But the USA has never declared the war to Finland, not even during the Second World War when the Finns fought against the Soviet Union.
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Lisbon?
@@lucone2937 They were probably already considering Operation Unthinkable at the time.
Fun fact: the reason why finnish forces were slow to chase german forces after the battle of Rovaniemi was because they found german’s liquor supplies.
Priorities straight
@@enderlinde3152LMAO
@@enderlinde3152 LMAOOO
The situation vas strange. Without Germany, Finland was occupied by CCCP. During the war we get weapons and food from Germany untill we must fight against then. It was really not a pleasure.
A local preach saw the soldiers drinking after the City had Been liberated and according to story yelled at them "is this what a Finnish soldier is like?" ("tälläinenkö on suomalainen sotilas?")
Quite good video, but a small strange detail is noticeable: Kyösti Kallio looks more like his successor, Risto Ryti. If you've seen a picture of Kyösti Kallio, he had a pretty damn fluffy mustache. Also, in addition, Kyösti Kallio died in 1940, so he could no longer be the president of Finland during the Continuation War, which began in 1941.
yeah it also bothered me. He also continued using the Risto Ryti looking guy even when Mannerheim became the president in 1944
@@uvolanis You are correct but it's honestly just a minor issue.
He should have mentioned the syyskuun manooverit/ september manovers. I also would have mention the braking apart of the back room deals between the germans and the fins and the ordeal devolving into a war.
I just realised that his name is Kyösti Kallio.
I only know these people bcz I play HOI4.
@@Mestari1Gaming Not really a minor issue.
Fun fact: Out of all the countries that were required to pay reparations from World War II, Finland is the only one known to have paid its bill in full when it sent $300 million to the Soviet Union in 1952.
" you fought back too hard give us money"
@@Obvioustrollerthe Soviets to the Finns were pretty tame, they could've swallowed Finland after the war but didn't
That would have been an ugly and protracted gureilla war which is why the soviets "chose" not to@@thesovietduck2121
@@thesovietduck2121 it probably would've sparked nato involvement.
@@thesovietduck2121Sweden will definitely join NATO if they are bordering with the Soviets
A note on the Lapland borders, the border adjustment with the annexation of Petsamo wasn't the last change. In 1947, a small wedge near Inari was sold to the USSR. Most people miss this.
Indeed, after 1944 the Petsamo boarder looked like it had looked since 1809 but of course with the 1940 boarder adjustments The last adjustmed was in 1947.
Wow, you covered a section of WW2 I have never heard about! So even Finland can consider itself a victim of german occupation, that's very interesting!
I mean they invited the Germans in and then started attacking them. I don't know if that's being a victim.
Its more an example of inviting over troops to help assist you against another enemy and then when the war is over those same troops stay and refuse to leave
No lol, why does everyone want to be a victim
Actually I agree with that notion, because Finland also actively participated in the Schoa may it only have been to a little extent. But treating Finland as the good exception of the axis members is wrong in my eyes. I still consider the people of Lapland victims of these destructions commited by the Wehrmacht there, as they had little to do with that@@Globeraphy
In Autumn 1944 (after the armistice between Finland and the Soviet Union), Finland and Germany had a tacit agreement that German troops can retreat to Norway and Finns won't attack them. But Stalin thought that Germans are not retreating quickly enough and thratened Finland with occupation. So Finns were forced to attack Germans.
We have an outdoor sport field in Rovaniemi called Rommelin kenttä (Sportsbahn Feldmarschall Rommel) wich means Rommels sportfield. It was constructed by the germans during the war and was named after Erwin Rommel. They held sport matches there between the finns and the germans for example in football and ice hockey. The field is still in use, when I was in school almost all of my PE classes were there.
Nice I live in rovaniemi too
That's cool as hell
Mielenkiintosta,😊
Siellä se tosiaan löyty.Praise the Google maps!😊
Thank you for not censoring the swatsika, it's important to not censor history. Great vid. I know you'll blow up.
🔥🔥🔥
censoring a hate symbol is not the same as "censoring history"
@@drunkenpeanut6582 censoring the flag of a historical nation is censoring history. Just as censoring hateful events or hateful people would be censoring history.
@@drunkenpeanut6582The right has a tendency to take perfectly fine things and turning them into symbols of hate. Censoring them is letting them win. They do that now and they did that then.
@@drunkenpeanut6582Yes it is.
there is this little event during the liberation of Tornio which likely contributed to the failure of the greater operation. The Magic Night of Tornio (tornion taikayö). The Finns found a German booze storage and after securing the town they started, hmm, evacuating the storage by any means possible. Both soldiers and civilians started filling cars, carts, prams, anything with booze. The commander of the 11th infantry regiment described the event with the following quote: "My tired and hungry warriors absorbed firewater like sponges and soon all hell broke loose. People sung and screamed, shot and smashed into pieces everything that they saw. A thirsty finn dismantles a board shed shockingly fast if on the other side there is booze"
At 1:55:
While the mountains are a little unrealistic for Eastern Finland, they're not unrealistic for Northern Finland (AKA Lapland), but there is another point. The Finnish forests are LITTERED with massive boulders that were carved and moved around by the receeding glacier of the ice age. These boulders are more effective than the modern Russian Dragon's Teeth and very much perform the same as a mountain. Since both bolders and mountains are made out of rock and serve the same purpose, I think it's relatively safe to give you a pass for the inclusion of mountains, gets the message accross; Finnish forests are not hospitable for tank maneuvers. This is what forced the Soviets to stick to main roads instead of going Deja Vu over the country side.
However, the mountains in Lapland (if you can call them that) don't have sharp peaks like in the video.
@@seneca983 semantics.
@@Caldera01 My previous comment wasn't about semantics. The shape of the mountains isn't a semantic issue. (This comment *is* about semantics, however.)
I grew tired of waiting for oversimplified to upload and this is exactly what I want to see, thanks for making this
Dude your video on Danish colonialism was that first video of yours that I found and your videos are frickin good man. Really impressed
As a finn I must say, this was a really good video. Probably helps that you are clearly nordic as well. Maybe they actually teach some of this stuff in norwegian schools. But seriously, really good video. You earned a new subscriber. :)
They actually don't teach this in Norwegian schools. The most that came from Norwegian schools were "So, Germany needed to retreat from the Soviets. They used the scorced-earth policy everywhere in Finnmark. Anyways, Germany surrendered on May 8th"
@@Globeraphy I read somewhere that you guys celebrate the Soviet army with Russians each year as liberators. Perhaps the king joining in even. I wonder how many countries do that ... or is Norway the only one? I don't mean to imply it's wrong but nevertheless a strange curiosity.
I have never heard of Norwegians celebrating the liberation of Finnmark by the Soviets. Maybe it's a Northern Norway thing, but I've never heard of it.
@@Globeraphy Apparently it isn't a big thing then. But you can easily find articles on the celebrations on the net. Lavrov was a quest of honor in 2018, it seems.
First time watching you, your one of the only historic content creators that got the borders, adjustments, advances etc right.
I find it laughable that even big history Chanel’s often mess up borders or flags, good work !
I do understand why big history channels mess the borders up. The maps takes like 2-3 hours to make on average, and those guys need to actually upload frequently
I feel like Finland is just a poor Clerk who just wants to finish his monthly target before his boss fire him
Finland also wanted more than their old lands if Germany won WW2. They wanted all of Karelia and made a resource agreement with Germany to get the Kola Peninsula
Fantastic video btw. You’re a really good channel! :)
Yeah they even wanted to extend it's borders all the way to the Ural mountains and kinda unify the Uralic people.
It was more of a thought between soldiers of greater Finland. For the sake of foreign relationships we decided to stop attacking but we did go further than planned in the beginning
@@Finlandia207 It’s more that after Stalingrad the outcome was obvious to everyone who wasn’t delusional 💀 But in that year when no one knew Ryti himself approved these plans
@@Demons972 No they didn't. There were propaganda songs about "Ivan running behind Ural mountains" and people get ideas about that. But they were just sarcastic jokes of the 1939 attackers now running in front of Germans.
It's always fresh and nice to see videos about "smaller/forgetten" battles/wars. Though few points were little bit too oversimplified, especially the time leading up to winter war including reasonings for Finnish side to not accept Soviet proposals.
probably since it wasn't part of the lapland war. But he could have gone deeper into that the finns stopped the viipuri-petroskoi offensive. Basically half of all finnish movies made are about these battles. Battle of Tali-Ihantala etc. This is why the soviets stopped pushing and offered a new peace deal.
Great video! I'm surprised you don't have more than 10k subscribers.
Heyy, probably the first video on TH-cam I have found on Lapland war. Even in Finland its kinda forgotten, compared to Winter and Continuation War
Dude I had the battle of mosquito, while watching this.
Real good video I didn’t expect it to be as good as it was. I’ve heard about this part of the war, especially from the movie, Sisu and the channel Eastory but only briefly
I knew for years that Finland was attacked by the Soviet Union and they attacked the Soviet union back at them when Germany attacked. And I knew that they left during late September, but I didn’t know all the details about how they left it till now.
5:09 I think it's more that the Soviets re-used the tactic that ultimately won the Winter War: Massive push through the Karelian Isthmus. The Vyborg part. Finns then were forced to retreat in the east without much resistance for the fear of being cut off.
Adjust your borders is the best line in this episode
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Bra video. Mye bra informasjon, of bra bilder/animasjon 👍🇳🇴👍
Never thought i'd see a video about the "Childrens Crusade" on youtube. It was a nice presentation, all though the reason for the war was more akin to "if you don't attack the Germans, we will move forces to Finland to attack them for you", instead of the Soviets asking Finland politely.
The premise of the continuation war and Finland constantly switching sides isn't all that confusing in reality tho. It starts with the Winter War, at which point Finland was still a Neutral nation that was making military deals with the Allies, but when the Soviets invaded, the allies ultimately refused to support Finland, as the Brits were predicting that at some point there would be a war between the Soviets and the Germans, which in turn would side the Soviets with the Allies (and to their credit, they were right). So they decided to leave Finland on its own, in order to maintain good relations with the Soviets, cause Finland didn't have anything valuable to provide them nor were they keen on fighting the Germans.
After the Winter war, Finland assumed that another war with the Soviets was inevitable and they began a process of rearming themselves, however the Allies still refused to trade military equipment to Finland for the same reason as before. So Finland went to Germany and since they were already full scale preparing for the upcoming invasion, the Germans promised Finland a massive amount of military equipment and the other supplies for the low low price of allowing the Germans to move through Finland, in the event of a war with the Soviets.
Both sides knew full well, that the Soviets would declare war on Finland instantaneously if this was to happen, if the Soviets weren't in war with Finland already by the time that the Germans attacked. This is exactly what happens, Germany attacks and moves troops through Finland, Soviets tell Finland to attack them, Finland says no = Continuation war begins.
During the Continuation War, Finland's high command refused to go past it's old 1939 borders, despite German pleads and some Finnish politicians desires, as the high command didn't want to go to war with the rest of the allied nations.
After the Soviets won the war on the eastern front and signed a peace treaty with Finland, so that it could focus on the main front with Germany, it was relatively easy for the Allies to rewrite the whole Finland narrative as Finland being "strong armed" to work with the Germans.
This narrative would serve an important purpose for the Allies in the post war Europe during the Cold War, as Finland was now seen as a key buffer state between Soviets and Norway. So they did some "historical revisionism" to the history of Finland in the narrative sense, to sell the idea that Finland had always sided with the "west" (which is true to a large extent) and presented them as an "allied" nation during the final stages of the war. Ironically the Soviets saw the neutral Finland as a key buffer state between them and the west, as long as the west couldn't use Finland to launch an attack, so they revisioned the historical narrative to Finland leaning towards the "east" after 1944.
This lead to an interesting period in Finnish history, where Finland was trying to strengthen its ties with the west while assuring the Soviets that all western "invasions" would be met with force.
Essentially both sides of the Cold War saw it in their best interest not to present Finland as an ally to the Germans, which is why Finland is presented as a nation going from Allies --> Axis --> Allies, with the changes being tied to political leadership at the time, while in reality it was more like Neutral (leaning towards allies, except soviets, don't want to fight Germany) --> Allied with Germany in the East (not Axis) --> Neutral (under Soviet occupation). The way that this is period is presented in Finnish history books made in 60-80's in particular, is confusing as all hell, as it feels like the narrative changes every 2 years or so.
P.S: Sorry for the wall of text.
Some great animation and story telling and its also funny 😂.
You are so underrated, I hope you get the recognition someday.
Thanks man :)
@@Globeraphy your welcome 👍
How do you not have more subscribers? This video is amazing!
You're the first youtuber probably ever mentioning this war, people always forget that this existed too.
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Atleast back in the days, 13 years ago, my history teacher said how this subject is ignored even in Finland, as Finns would feel some national shame for backstabbing Germany.
Its just weird how the stigma has carried for 100 years soon.
@@jarskil8862not too sure about that, atleast in my school we went through the Lapland war, not for long though as it was a short conflict
And yes, I am a finn
Actually finland didnt declare war, they wanted to declare war later but the soviets already started bombing them
Good point. Technically it was the soviets who started the continuation war even though Finland had planned to go on the offensive.
Thats kinda funny aint it 😂
Except for the deaths that definitely aint…😔
It was a special continuation operation, I guess.
Not sure why people don't bring this up, the continuation war probably could've been avoided had the Soviets not done that.
It's not correct to say that Finland didn't declare war. Finland did declare war on June 25th though the Soviets had already done some attacks a few days earlier.
This video is incredible dude. Proud of you.
Thanks man, hope your videos will be doing well soon as well
Simo Hayha, also known as the white death, is the deadliest sniper in human history fighting for Finland in the winter war during WW2.
The winter war was fought between the Soviet Union and Finland. It would span 1939 (shortly after the fall of Poland)-1940. (Shortly before Norway fell). Though Finland lost the war overall, they won in the numbers having far fewer tanks and soldiers lost due to the war.
In the middle of the winter war Simo Hayha would get shot in the face and have to have surgery to stay alive. Due to this, he was unable to fight for the remaining months of the war.
Simo Hayha had over 500 confirmed kills and died in 2002.
Simo häyhä wounded few days before winter war ended and it last 105 days
I have heard so many times that finnish people are nazis and i don't get why some people say that. No one said it in this video. Our land is small but people living in that land is strong. That hate of people saying "you were allies with german so you are nazi. Its like saying that every german is nazi and that is far from the truth.
I almost never hear anyone say that.
@@ToveriJuri Well if you read comments in almost every video of Talvisota, there is some idiot saying that. We are nazis because we were fighting to defend our country with nazis. Not that they were doing much of that defending but still. I hate hearing that nazi shit because that does not make us nazis.
@@RIPTurhaAKACryptidHunter
Yeah some random troll on youtube comment sections. I don't count youtube commenters as people until proven otherwise. Any Rutroll can post whatever the hell they want here. and there's no post history or anything to be seen.
So let me adjust my statement. I almost never hear or see real people say it.
@@ToveriJuri yeah you are right about that one! There is people trollin internet and I don't count those all as normal people, but so many of those comments I seen so there must be some idiot who really means it...
Google "concentration camp in Petrozavodsk" and say it again. I don't think children were dangerous for Finnish independence. It doesn't mean current country is guilty, but in WW2 Finland committed enough war crimes to be called nazis government at that time.
These videos are awesome. Most of us dont care if the quality is "bad", the serbian province with autonomy video was perfectly fine. (Im not even gonna attempt to spell it)
remember me when ur famous bro, this is awesome
I sure will!
This came out of no where, good job mate keep up the videos
The Germans began hostilities first with Operation Tanne Ost on 15 September 1944. Granted, it was largely independent of events in Lapland, though it is seen as the start of the Lapland War.
The German army in Lapland would have withdrawn to northern Norway according to their own plans, but Stalin forced the Finnish army to pressure them more actively,
@@lucone2937 Yes.
Good video, I’m glad people are talking about Finland in ww2!
Vyborg-Petrozavodsk offensive was not represented so well in here: Even tho Soviets were able to capture Vyborg, there were many important battles after that (battles of Tali-Ihantala, Vuosalmi, Vyborg bay and Nietjärvi). Those defensive battles made sure that Soviets lost their interest to march all over to the Helsinki and started to move troops to the fronts in Germany.
Don't get it twisted Soviets had the capabilities to march down to Helsinki if Stalin wished to they had the numbers and equipment to conquer Helsinki but the main priority was of course Berlin
@@JDDC-tq7qm sure, with heavy losses they could have
@@XGD5layer yes but and Soviets lost 1 million men in Stalingrad alone I don't think Soviets are concerned about losses as long as the objectives are accomplished
@@JDDC-tq7qm Aside from that it bore Stalin's name, Stalingrad was on their own soil, a major transport and industry hub with the capacity to support millions of people, of course they would grind as many of their men as needed. In the 1940s Finland had nothing more to offer than being a buffer zone. It had no industry to speak of, was not an artery for any kind of trade that couldn't be done through St. Petersburg and could not support any kind of large population. Why would you throw two-three million people at a place that can at most sustain maybe three times of that, other than being a security buffer zone which frankly requires an even larger border guard than the current border
i already knew finland and germany went to war in late-ww2, but i didnt know why or what happened during that bit of the war, tysm for the information :D
Hey brother I really liked this video!! Real Good quality 👍👍 just one thing though, I can see that you heavily inspired by oversimplified and that’s okey but sometimes it can maybe get a bit to much similar with the music and jokes, so just a tip! try to create you own way of making videos and more people will enjoy them!
Thanks for the tip, will try to be more original
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Great vid bro
This is like a mixture of oversimplified and sam o' nella academy. Very good video 😊
I seem to recall a detail that you miss here, in that the Russians wouldn't allow the Finns to use any of their established military units to push back the Germans. So the Finns were forced to use new conscripts. Wasn't this war called The War of the Children by the Finns as a result?
Yeah, Children's crusade. Finland had to demobilize all reservists.
What would be the point of that?
@@MimOzanTamamogullar One of the requirements in the armistice with the Soviet Union was demobilization. Therefore, compliance with the armistice required that existing units be demobilized and new ones created.
@@seneca983 That makes sense on paper but is really stupid irl. I get that, I suppose.
wars are stupid@@MimOzanTamamogullar
Video was funny but educational. I like it quite a bit. The somewhat "lazy" style was still good.
I am subscribing this reminds me of oversimplified
I accidentally clicked on your video but now I’m watching it entirely lmao
I liked this video and I personally have never before seen a video about the Lapland war. Howerver there is a small detail the bothers me. During the Contuniation War we see a figure labeld Kyösti Kallio. He was the president of Finland from 1937 to 1940 when he resigned due to seriois helth issues which led to his death later on that year(1940) so he wasn't aleive during the contuniation war.
This is really good man! Keep up the good work!
I think it would've been worth mentioning that Finland technically did not start the continuation war. After Germany started Barbarossa, the USSR bombed some finnish cities, which then caused Finland to declare war.
I like your pfp
What cities are these?
@@АлександрСемёнов-ч9чHelsinki, Turku, Lahti to name a few
@@harjatalonen3467 Yes, they sent bombers to Helsinki, but they weren’t even noticed.
nice video dude! i love the similarities to oversimplfied whilst also being original in your art style, its nice. kind of remind me of wojack XD
In the war h1tler actually had very good relasitions whit finnland ane made a good amount od visits there (sorry of i wrote something wrong i speak finnish not english)
denne videoen var veldig nyttig!! det gjorde samtalene mine fed middagsbordet litt mer interessante. ville se igjen. 👍👍
1:05 This is the first time someone who is trying to be education actually showing the more or less correct demanded new border. Only thing I would add, is that the Soviets actually offered the same amount of land elsewhere as compensation.
Finland was accepting one of the soviet suggestions, but in exhange Finland demanded enforced non-agression pact to be extended.
This was not ok to soviets.
So what do you think it means, if Giant military super power wants to exhange nature fortified areas to piece of non strategic flatland, and then refuses to promise further peace?
@@jarskil8862 I know that Stalin's goal was to totally subjugate Finland. I'm just adding a fact.
And not only was the Mannerheim line a naturally fortified position, it also had considerable defensive structures.
If you wish to debate this further, I'm more than happy, since after moving from my home town, I haven't been able to teach history.
Great video! I think your channel will grow big!
The biggest loss of Finland here might be the Arctic port city of Petsamo. Although a small town, having access to the Arctic Sea can be an advantage economically largely due to global warming with the melting of polar ice caps. However, with the current geopolitical events of today, who knows if someday Petsamo goes back to Finland or if they become part of a new country?
This is the first video of yours which I watched and it was very entertative as it kept me interested. Your videos remind of me Oversimplified and John D. Ruddy, I know you are quite new when compared from others but I hope that your channel grows well. And you continue to make such entertative videos.
Is there anything known about air activity during Lapland War? Finns lost some 10 planes,Germans lost a bit more but that's all I have.
15 minutes? It felt like 5! Really good video and keep this up it's beautiful!
Kyösti kallio wans not he presisdent during the continuation war. He died in 1940. Also the stick figure looks more like Risto Ryti the president after Kallio
I'm gonna be honest, didn't think too much of who's president of Finland during the time. Sorry for the mistake mate
i love how well you told the history of my country
You just got a sub from Finland
The animation is perfect everything is perfect
The Soviet demands during the Continuation War were unconditional surrender, not land consessions.
Only after the Soviet summer offensives did they offer conditional surrender which Finland accepted.
Finland didn't surrender.
@@XtreeM_FaiL In order to enforce a peace agreement in benefit of the other side one must capitulate. There was first the Moscow Armistice, which was a temporary one in order to stop hostilities, which means the terms for peace could change later, hence Finland surrendered to terms Soviets initially demanded, and to further demands that were not yet agreed upon.
@@speedruiner7213 The word you're looking for is truce.
To some it might sound like surrender, but it's still not the same.
Also you have to remember that the war had changed. Allied forces had already won, but the war or race to Berlin was still going on and ruskies were also looking ways to end the war between Finland asap.
@@XtreeM_FaiL That is not the word I am looking for since truce does not typically carry conditions other than cease to hostilities on both sides. In order for the Soviets to agree to ceasefire, Finland was subjected to additional conditions to agree upon, hence why it is called an Armistice.
While Finnish army and nation still stood, surrender was what the Soviets expected from Finland and surrender it was for the Finns too, since that's how they themselves addressed it to the nation.
@@speedruiner7213 "and surrender it was for the Finns too," ... but not the unconditional surrender that Stalin had first demanded at spring 1944.
Funny how Germany was doing Operation Barbarosa on Soviet Union, but Germany and Soviet Union actually co-operated to invade Finland, and somehow two of the greatest powers in WW2 failed to take on a surrrounded, small, and "kinda weak" country.
3:00 I wouldn't say that Finland attacked USSR to regain their lands bc Soviets bombed Finnish cities first
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Also I'm pretty sure Kyösti Kallio died before Barbarossa
There is an almost 100% chance Finland would have joined eventually. And they didn’t just want their old lands back, they wanted Karelia and the Kola Peninsula if the Germans won.
@@HW-sw5gb Like, nearly everyone in Europe was sure that Germany would win so that's understandable
@@Adrian_xx40 Yeah I’m not blaming them to be clear. Honestly the majority Balto-Finnic Karelian parts of Karelia would’ve voted to join Finland anyway in the interwar era if given the choice. For the Russian majority parts, if the USSR has fallen anyway, they prefer the Finns to the Germans lol (even tho Finland was probably going to deport most of them to either Kola or Moskowien)
I'm entertained!
Keep up the amazing work.
As country of 4 million Finnish first stopped 168 million Soviets entering more than few dozen kilometers into Finland - they were confident to kick German Reich, nation of 80 million, out of North Finland.
Using no more than 100 fighters and few dozen tanks.
Finns lost to the Soviets so therefore had to attack the Germans
@@JDDC-tq7qm To be more precise:
Because Germans lost in Moscow, Stalingrad and Leningrad, Finland had to find ways to make peace with the invading Soviet union.
I'm Finnish and this video gave me multiple good chuckles or made me actually lol a bit:D So I defienetly will sub now!
I did'nt know before this video that the "city" of Rovaniemi (considered a city in Finland) was destroyed/burned to the ground 90% throught in 1944....
5:00 i mean if those are the borders that the soviets wanted to draw in the background for the continuaton war i would definetly accept it
Leningrad was the second largest city and was a center of culture, population and industry. Wishing it to be protected by buffer land was fair. The problem was that the buffer land soviets requested was pretty important for the finns, and soviets didnt have any equally important land to offer.
Sure until you realise that the demands also included your best fortifications and important islands and a military base right next to your capital...
@@Gooberman-yv1fpyep but we all know they wanted whole finland as a buffer. The land that they took from winter war was irrelevant as we saw during continuation war
@@MRtapio5 yeah but the finns could have made a counter offer
@@JouMaxu they did...
A formality basically xD, good video!
Finland did NOT start the Continuation war. War bwfan 25th of June 1941 after Soviet Union attack Finnish cities by bomber planes.
Ur video is super well made and made me super interested into the topic! Keep it up! I know ur gonna get big
Thank you so much man :)
at 1:00 , You could have mentioned that the Soviet Union border adjustment favored Finland way more than the Soviets(in terms of who gets more land).
But at the same time, Finland would have lost major strategic locations, Islands and would have had Soviet troops right next to it's capital (This is how the Baltics got annexed)
Well if you valued the 4th largest city and the main defensive line in finland as the same as some empty forest then by all means yes.
Thank you a lot!
I am a passionate of ww2 and i didn't know that,also this is an amazing video!
To this date as a Finn I still cannot figure why some respect either Hitler or Stalin. They both are the axis of evil to me.
One offed himself, then was ashed to oblivion so no one finds his remains. The other was among the winners, then was embalmed and celebrated.
I've never heard of people that respected those leaders after their death. I'm assuming they still are respected by a few around the world, but those are idiots that think communism and fascism works.
@Globeraphy
Well if communism did not work, planned economy did not work we would all live in Greater German Reich now probably. And Stalin was the Head of that.
Next people will say „bbbb but communism killed so many people!“ and I will answer that by all means capitalism killed by far more people in the 20th Century. To this day capitalism can not solve any human problem. That is world hunger, wars, etc. Funny to read something like that and then remember how capitalist America burned over 2 million in Vietnam in their imperialistic interest, armed mudshahedins that later turned into taliban and in general waged most wars Post WW2.
I get these take time to make. But I wish you'd upload more. Your videos are great and seem well reaearched
3:00 Finland didn't start the war.
Ruskies bombed Finns without declaring war, again.
Few days later Finland start their counter attack.
Yea true but they did have war plans already for the offensive but they wanted to wait until USSR bombed them first to justify it
@@MRtapio5 Of course they had plans.
Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth
- Mike Tyson
@@edonveil9887 ?
@MRtapio5 when things start to happen, plans change. USSR failed because the plans remained even after the punch.
Your underrated channel
This is not real finland didnt go war with germany
This is definitely real. Not long ago some German explosives were found in Lapland. They boobytrapped everything possible and filled nature with mines.
You just 𝙙𝙤𝙣'𝙩 𝙠𝙣𝙤𝙬
Yes they go to war
Search, Lapland war kid
@@Fire_61 bro im from finland🤓
None of our history books says about lapwar. Bro if germany attacked finland we could lost. So think about it again🤑💪
Keep it up man ❤
germans burned my hometown :D
I am always happy when i sub to new TH-camrs like you
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Nice video man
Fun fact russia can't in 1v1
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Very good video reminicist of a hybrid between sam o nella and over simplified keep up the good work
Nice, those are the two I'm most inspired by
14:47 Best Germany After WWII Map
You make the best videos dude keep going ❤
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I'm surprised that you don't have more subscribers because your videos are really good
Traditionally, youtubers don't get big of just 5 videos lol :)
@@Globeraphy I suppose but hey I still like them
Finland didn't start Contunation war!!!!
Sovjets bombed Finland citys 5 day before. Then Finland president say; it looks we are in war!!!
Read history.
First of all your grammar is horrible, And are you referring to the Soviet air raids on June 19th 1941?
@@bruh-wz9csHow ironic you talk about ironic while your grammar is just as bad 😂😂😂
Ngl you're so underrated, good job. 👍
You should do more videos, they are Amazing!
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Omg, the Slovak national uprising! Good job for including that. Also, nice vid
”and that, was lappland”
*proceeds to show Norrbotten with the Västerbotten emblem ”vildmannen”*
you're thinking of the Swedish lapland wildman emblem, which has the Wildman in red skin, what he shows is Finnish lapland Wildman emblem, which has Wildman in normal skin tone
Im from Finland,and live in a small city.Theres a big school that i attend, called "Juho Oksan Koulu", and i found out propably like a year or two ago,that it was used as a hospital in the war. and now some idiot made a legend of "The ghost Of juho oksan koulu" and that there were dead soldier bodies in the basement.
i like the idea of the video its literally oversimplified but you upload more common W vid