CORRECTION: At the beginning, I make the claim about the Rhine being the hub of Germany's auto industry. I meant this more poetically so as to mean the western Rhineland area of Germany in general, which is known for being highly industrialised, rather than being literally on the banks of the Rhine itself. Then again, Mercedes and Porsche are based in Stuttgart which I misremembered as being in the Rhineland, so it was a balls-up all round.
well the rhine itself is very important for the german industry - and for history of the german industry, with the canal extensions. then again extended with the canals it would cover so much of germany..
This is brilliant. We'll be here for the next one! Suggestions -Packard -Tucker -Group B Rally (cars/teams/the history/people) -British Leyland (speak it's name. Helps us Americans who don't know know it's evil) -The millions of things you are probably already considering but taking a long break before starting. Regardless your channel is an absolute gem and I am legitimately excited when you post. Especially about little known and sadly dead automakers
I see what's going on here. I smell the Roast. The sneaky Bolshies are trying to trick our humble Narrator into liking public transport. God, their deviancy knows no end ...
God's car was a Plymouth, though. He drove Adam and Eve from the Garden in his Fury. Jesus drove a Honda but wasn't a Honda fanboy - he spoke not of his Accord.
Jesus was a fan of British cars. He didn't drive that much though, having a chauffeur. Remember, he rode into Nazareth in his Triumph. This probably led to their tie-up with Honda. His Dad?, not so much.
@@VintageSG But "the sound of his Triumph was heard throughout the land" - so it must have been pretty noisy, which makes me suspect they are talking about a bike.
For anybody curious about the Oxford Vaporizer, it's a "temperature-compensated circle-breathing apparatus for ether anesthesia." So nothing to do with the subject.
The UK car manufacturering scene used to be amazing. Anyone with a shed and mechanical knowledge could make a company, and that led to some absolute gems being built, even if they are actually shitboxes. Jowett (amazing video btw) Alvis, Brabham, Daimler (the British one, and the same one that made armoured cars in WW2) Lanchester, Jenson etc. Just to name a few Its still kind of around now, with companies like Caterham, Ariel, Ginetta and Noble keeping the tradition of men in sheds build cars, but i would have lived to have seen glory days during the 50s,60s, and 70s Thank you Mr Binman, as always making documentary worthy entertainment
The early car manufacturing scene was awesome everywhere. I ha e a book called 100 years of American Auto. It starts in the late 1800s and ends in 2000. But it shows literally hundreds of obscure and long defunct companies. They came and went every year and the book keeps track of their coming and going. It's so fascinating.
@@andrewesau51 ehh by "everywhere" you probably mean the western world, I'd guess. Plenty of countries out there who are either relatively recently experiencing an automotive manufacturing boom (I'm from such a city myself) or never hopped onto that proverbial train to begin with
My father was a Jewett Javelin fan and owner in the late 50’s. The picture at 12:39 of the engine cut away gave me chills. While investigating a rough running engine his left hand slipped into the unguarded fan. The hand was not amputated but most of it’s useful function was abruptly curtailed.
In 2018ish I had the chance to see 4 Jowett (2 Javelin and 2 Jupiter) parked along the main road in my town (in France near the German border). The nice chaps that owned those fine automobiles were not only surprised to find a 20 year old who could speak English but also knew what their cars were. Excellent video and music choice as always.
@@stevegibb6421 I've got a Lancia Gamma Coupe S1 and a TVR S2... reliable cars are for the weak ! Knowing it might explode at any time is part of the experience. A good car has to be fundamentally flawed... always in for a spicy love hate relationship ^^
What you said about Bradford really resonates with me. I'm from South Bend Indiana and there's that rust belt gloom here too. We also lost an underdog manufacturer in our city: Studebaker. Funny anakedote my dad and uncle tried to steal the Studebaker sign. Unfortunately the owner caught wind and told them to eff off. So many relatives lost their job at the factory forever altering their lives and triggering white flight. Only in the last decade have we really started to recover.
My father ran me over with his Javelin when I was a toddler (circa 1962). I was told to stay in the kitchen, he then drove the car across the back yard to the garden where the oil change wouldn't make a mess. I ran out of course, and the car went right over me (breaking my collar bone) after which my poor old dad, terrified, (according to my mum) leapt out and the car carried on through a hedge into next doors garden. It turns out that I was fine and the collar bone was only diagnosed a week or two later when I wouldn't stop crying at night. The car was towed away and scrapped soon after.
Myth, I can get all four plugs out from the engine bay, it's actually harder from the wheel side because the inner wing gets in the way. It's a bit of a faf but if you use the Jowett plug spanner (which is shorter and thinner than normal and provided in the tool box built into the boot) then no problem except taking the skin off your knuckles when they come loose. Good story though. A better 'fun fact' is that a Jowett plug spanner is the only thing that will fit between the sides of Unistrut channel to remove an M10 bolt with a 17mm head, a normal 17mm socket won't fit.
Superb video and thank you for featuring Jowett cars, as of writing this you have 54K views! That is a hell of a lot of people that probably never knew these fantastic cars existed, thanks again. A few fun facts: The Jowett Car Club is the oldest one make car club in the world; we just celebrated our 100th anniversary. A decent Javelin will still travel happily on a motorway and a well driven Jupiter will give a lot of cars a good run on a back road, if you are brave enough, no seat belts and drum brakes does focus the mind. There are still lots of them on the road and racing in international events, just this year a Jupiter got a class win at the Spa 6hrs. The club owns the spares company and can source or provide almost anything from the very earliest to the later 50’s cars at basically trade prices to members which helps keep so many cars on the road. They do get under your skin a bit and are a lot more interesting than some of the more normal retro stuff.
@@xenotiic8356 what do you mean you're not eating while watching TH-cam and listening to a podcast and playing cities skylines and war thunder at the same time while scrolling through tiktok? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED???
Born and bred in Pudsey, grandad had a butchers shop in Laisterdyke, dad drove a Jowett Bradford van for the Yorkshire Electricity Board! Your video was BRILLIANT. especially the rant at the end! When I was a kid, living by then in Driffield (East Yorkshire) where Dad was transferred to, our metalwork teacher took us for the metalwork day out, morning spent touring Park Gate steelworks in Rotheram (Fecking AWESOME!), afternoon at Moore and Wright tools in Sheffield, the same fate befell Park Gate, and I feel exactly as your rant stated about it!! Phil Whitley, Phil whitley, my week this week, on youtube!
Finally back! What I really enjoy about your history lessons is that they are so detailed with side info, world history connection, music choices, memes, philosophy, economic theory, politics, and here even a bit of local adventure. It's a wild journey that makes it worth to watch it multiple times - which I did with your previous videos. You are so multi-layered with your content approach that is really unique in this space. Probably not for everyone, but really enjoyable for those who like it a bit more creative. Keep it up!
I remember as a schoolboy in the early 1950´s we used to look in through the drivers side door window and be amazed at the 100mph marked speedo, an incredible and dangerous level of performance to us in those days. Some years later my dad wound his Austin A40 Somerset up to a death defying indicated 70mph on a dual carriageway on a trip over to Hull. What 100mph would have feltlike in the Jowett I dread to think. Many years later a friend touched 100mph over the Snake Pass summit and that car, a Cortina Savage 3 litre V6, had the brakes and suspension to cope.
As a proud son of The Peoples Republic of Yorkshire myself i wouldnt be surprised to find out this thing was built from Pudding Batter and powered by Hendo's Relish and Tetleys bitter ....and yet still somehow managed to be better than a Hillman Imp on Mileage 😂
I sure wasn't expecting this, but I sure am happy to see it. My partner is a member of the Jowett car club of Australia. her dad has a serious love for these cars with him alone owning multiple working javelins and Jupiter's and at least one Bradford, and about 20 other in a state of disrepair. the light green car on the about page is one of theirs.
We really can see in here how much these videos mean to you, and it serves to show that there are still content creators who actually care and put some effort into what they are doing. Keep up the amazing work mate 🫡
as a GPO engineer i was sent to Harvesters on a fault the diagram said that the connection point was in the old copper store ? they had to dig up old Fred a Jowett guy who remembered it 🤣 i well remember riding in the Bradfords as a boy thank you for re kindling olde memories 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Great video, thanks. My Dad's first car, when I was a toddler in Sheffield in the mid-50's, was a Bradford van. There were no seats in the back so Dad would drive and Mum would sit on the passenger seat and me and my brothers would sit on garden chairs behind them. Unfortunately, these were not fixed to the floor so any corners taken at high speed would result in us all falling over. Luckily for us, high speed was a rarely achieved phenomenon. Our next door neighbour had a black Jowett Javelin which we looked upon as the next stage in the evolution of our brown Bradford. By the way, Jowett were not the only car builders in God's Own Country. We also had a small car builder in Sheffield called Simplex. Hand built and extremely rare. A video about Simplex would be of great interest to me, albeit an extreme challenge to produce. 😉 Richard
Unfortunately I inherited a Jupiter, javelin, motorcycle and a bike. Unfortunately I cannot bear to part with them. Greetings from Victoria, Australia.😊
Had early memories of the Javelin from Schooldays. My Dad had a motor repair workshop, he was infested with a Javelin that would not run on four cylinders in spite of having a valve grind. Not a happy workshop. The mechanics of the day were unfamiliar with anything not manufactured in USA. I was the smart arse bosses' son doing UE at School. It didn't take me long to find that the cause of no power to one side was a jammed open PCV [Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve] bleeding plain air into the inlet manifold. It was coked up with carbon, no doubt due to the low temperatures and non detergent oil. I do remember being impressed with the engineering design, but I was not so impressed with the attitude of the mechanics. How things don't change. .
@intergalacticBinman - Great to see you back! Another enjoyable romp through the history of the independent car makers of the UK, tragic and heart wrenching as the subject is at times. I remained tuned in and looking forward to your next missive. Thanks, from the west end of the pond.
I'm amazed someone capable of using the internet still remebers these cars. They must have sold quite well in Sweden since in the mid fifties the junkyards where littered with them. By then they had dissapeared from the roads though. Those who remembered them way back then knew them as "Jävelins" as in "Jävligt dålig" = incredibly bad in Swedish. Today a few can still be found at Töckfors junkyard, a place with about 800 cars that closed down in the seventies. They've been sitting there for about seventy years now. Nartually their spareparts did not sell well so they're still remarkalble complete. That said they have like all of the rest cars there long since become one with nature. As of today there are less than ten in the register, none in traffic. A year ago a fully functional one was up for sale for sale for around £ 250. I did not sell. R.I.P, Jowett Jävelin, sörjd av få saknad av ingen = mourned by few, missed by no one.
Fantastic video, and insanely beautiful, Poster worthy thumbnail! You have very quickly become my favourite car youtuber, if not one of my favourites outright. This is super interesting stuff that no one talks about, presented in well written story with great presentation and humour! Also when is the new Hot Air Outtake coming?
Yet another automotive audiovisual masterpiece from the Binman. What a story Jowett had, I never heard of them before and I am already enamoured by their cars. I eagerly await the next video in another half a year's time. Hopefully you make a video on Bristol, my favourite British car company. The most British of such companies, producing fascinating and unique cars until surprisingly recently, and also lacking much information or focus on the internet, especially for their later cars. And the owner, Tony Crook, was a most eccentric fellow. Also, seeing you cover Alvis, Wolseley, and Riley would be wonderful.
My grandparents lived in Shipley all their life and you actually passed their house in this video, I've been to that Morrisons many times and my dad went to school behind that Texaco. The Motorworld dealership always had quite exotic cars in it, Ferrari's, Lotus's, Mclaren's, etc. I saw many cool cars in it when growing up in the 2000s. I never knew Jowett had any connection to Yorkshire, let alone somewhere I knew. I don't go to Bradford very much nowaday on account of it being a shithole, infested with the worse drivers in the country, by far.
1:17 good guess on your demographic, a very well made match. sadly however your content is 1st monitor prime time full attention only. cope and seethe.
Great video my dad had quite a few jowetts while I was growing up including a Bradford a Javelin and the drophead version of the Abbott’s bodied coupe at 19 mins. I also remember one of the prototype R4’s parked on our drive it belonged to a friend of his. Great music, big Gang of Four fan
Ay oop, ‘ows tha goin’? Uz naybers wuz reet posh ‘n lardy dah. They ‘ad a Javelin when I were nobbut a kid. ‘Twer fust car I ever saw wi an ‘eeter. We thort it were gradely. Translation: Hello, how do you do? Our neighbours were exceptionally upper class and somewhat snobbish. They owned a Javelin, during my early years. It was fitted with a heater which was outside my prior experience. We considered it a fine motor vehicle.
I'll be honest, never heard of Jowett until now and thought for a terrifying second it was Jowo: God's Own Car. Man gets an MX5 and is suffering hubris. Jokes aside, fantastic video, funny & educational about a brand I had zero knowledge of prior
Jowett played their cards well, but its a strict game. Some blunders here and there and it was essentially 3 queens vs 5 pawns. They made history, closed down, and endes on their best terms
Even that cars aren’t my forte I’ll gladly watch a historical snapshot about the cut-throat nature of the automobile industry which back then required so much constant investment and risk-taking that only one or two mistakes could shut up shop for good.
Damn that got personal towards the end, i kind of feel that contempt for the world today, and this capitalist hellscape which we are forced into, keep rocking in the free world man.
My father drove a Jowett Javelin in the 1950s brilliant car it was black. And even as a boy I was always amazed at how shiny that black paint was and the tough build quality of that car.
Capitalist Realism might be the most important book for understanding how capitalism is not evil, but it is the enemy that we must fight tooth and nail. Just a shame the audio book was read by Russell Twating Brand of all people.
I've known about the javelin since i was an apprentice and the senior diesel mechanic i worked under had two. Very cool things. They are unloved in Australia but interesting.
The Oxford Vapouriser sounds to me like a weapon of mass destruction conceived, built and wielded by a British supervillain from the early-to-mid 20th century!
Being from round that way, I can totally understand how going to Bradford for the day let you to a total existential breakdown. On a serious note, I'm not sure that a uni student up from London Googling how many of the local residents are kippers (or gammons if you prefer), suggesting that people who own expensive to run classics are "shitbox" owners who can't afford anything else; before lauding them as working class heros is really a great look. I get it and I appreciate the intention and the energy, but its quite patronising. Bradford gets a lot of shit, some of it deserved and some not. I think that you are well within your rights to talk about social issues and good for you for standing up for the little guy. I just feel as though its not really right to make a city the backdrop of a broader polemic because it's "northern and poor". Your views on the degredation of working class jobs and communities are interesting, but a bit underdeveloped. Maybe do an episode where you get more deeply into what happened to auto workers and regions in post-industrial Britain - it could put a more human spin on it. Bradford is a great example for that, but it needs more. On election Googling, you might have seen that the second placed candidate (with over 20% vote share) was a single-issue Gaza candidate. What does that say about marginalised working class communities? Sorry to come across so negative, I like the documentaries overall and I'll watch in future. If you want another weird and wonderful auto story from Yorkshire (in an even weirder place!) check out Karrier in Huddersfield. They got nabbed by Rootes, however the building is still (mostly) there - it's a car park these days, so you can look around. There's also a surviving descendant of the business still independent in wonderfully named Penistone! The Gang of Four cover was good!
Thanks for leaving such a thoughtful comment! You've basically put into words a lot of insecurities I had when I was putting that segment together. While I am from Yorkshire and grew up here, I am very conscious that I come from a part of Yorkshire that is, comparatively, better off. It's one of a few reasons I included the segment about the bike rider, and said I was "challenged" by him. I used that word because that was how I felt at the time, and because I knew I should probably try to honestly communicate the perspective I'm coming from, i.e. someone who does not regularly come into contact with that sort of thing, because I didn't want to seem like I was pretending to be anything I wasn't. I thought about saying something that more explicitly said "I'm not actually from a hardcore working class background etc." but whenever I tried writing it it always came off as either sounding like I was trying brag/flex or weirdly self-flagellant, so I thought it best to try and communicate it in the way I described, and also largely avoid invoking social class as a term on the whole. I realise a lot of the points I made were not given a lot of context/elaborated on. This is partially because I was trying to experiment with a more stream of consciousness style of writing than I usually do, as my usually more heavily scripted style didn't quite feel right; and partially because it was supposed to be a video about Jowett and I was already kicking myself for adding way too much on the end as is lol. As a result I can absolutely see how some things I said can be taken the way you've pointed out. I mean it with the truest intention, with regards to the "gammon" thing, that I was not walking around thinking "I wonder how many of these filthy poors are RACIST!!1!1!" but more so "We hear so much of right wing movements recruiting from the disaffected working class, I wonder if that has actually materialised in this case." And that's why I included the stats, because on the whole the answer was "not really." Looking back, I should have made a bigger deal about that rather than tacking it on as an afterthought and moving on. Just to quickly explain what I meant with the "shitbox" thing as well (this is a little circuitous so bear with me lol): it was mainly based on the fact that, as you pointed out as well, Bradford's reputation somewhat precedes itself. "Oh bloody hell not Bradford mate, it's a shithole," etc etc. So to go there and see things that people clearly had a passion for was refreshing. Cars, I think, are very expressive and can say a lot about the driver. The diesel 205 driver could've got a more modern car for their money but they chose a diesel 205, and they chose to put racing seats in it. It was very human and expressive, which was refreshing when we live under an economic system that does its best to dehumanise, especially in more deprived areas. That, I think was the point I was trying (and perhaps failed) to make: the crushing weight of neoliberal capitalism hasn't stopped these people from putting their own stamps on their cars and then using their cars to put their own stamps on the world around them. In retrospect the use of "shitbox" was a little blunt; I was trying to evoke the fact that the lay, none-car-brained person wouldn't consider a diesel Peugeot 205 with inexplicable racing seats exciting. They might say "why are you driving that old thing?" But to me, at least, it's not a shitbox, anything but, and the fact the lay person may disregard them made them all the more expressive and human to me. I hope I've clarified a little bit what I meant and where I'm coming from, and if you are even slightly more charitable towards it then I'm happy for it. I hope this hasn't come off too defensive either, and if this has only reinforced your original thoughts I don't blame you. On the whole that segment was a little truncated but for reasons I hope I've explained: if given more time or different circumstances I would have let it breath and become its own thing. None of any of this stops its flaws from existing though, and I hope to write something similar without those flaws in the future. I may also come back and edit this comment at some point if I think of a better way of getting my thoughts across I am very tired lol I was aware Karrier was absorbed into Rootes at some point but I didn't know the building was still there, I'll have to visit at some point!
as someone who daily drives a 1997 Honda life kei car i can say I refuse to be a number for some sales engineer screaming in to the abyss with all 45 hp screaming behind me
Excellent video, thanks for the Yorkshire big up! Also Bradford and Leeds both have an odd mix of classic, 90's max power and modern super vehicle lovers it's quite a petrol heads dream also just to cheer you up a bit Ginnetta cars are from garforth in Leeds and then there's tuning houses like overfinch in Bradford still waving a banner for industry 👍
When I just to go to college in Macclesfield there was a Jupiter, no idea what it was but showed the picture I got to my dad (He has a lot of 1920s - 1950s Austin’s most of which are 7s which you showed in the video). And I recently went to C & M with some uni friends (automotive society)we past a small convoy of Javelins and no one knew what they were, until I told everyone that they were Jowetts (still nobody knew what they were).
CORRECTION: At the beginning, I make the claim about the Rhine being the hub of Germany's auto industry. I meant this more poetically so as to mean the western Rhineland area of Germany in general, which is known for being highly industrialised, rather than being literally on the banks of the Rhine itself. Then again, Mercedes and Porsche are based in Stuttgart which I misremembered as being in the Rhineland, so it was a balls-up all round.
Rhineskillissue ... as the Germans say.
Well, you were at least correct with Ford, the big Ford plant in Germany is literally on the bank of the river and has its own little harbour.
well the rhine itself is very important for the german industry - and for history of the german industry, with the canal extensions. then again extended with the canals it would cover so much of germany..
You were missing out the Borgward, Goliath and Lloyd - plants in Bremen - not Rhine, but Weser.
Or Glas; river " Isar " , at Dingolfing, Bavaria.
This is brilliant.
We'll be here for the next one!
Suggestions
-Packard
-Tucker
-Group B Rally (cars/teams/the history/people)
-British Leyland (speak it's name. Helps us Americans who don't know know it's evil)
-The millions of things you are probably already considering but taking a long break before starting.
Regardless your channel is an absolute gem and I am legitimately excited when you post. Especially about little known and sadly dead automakers
You mean to tell me the purveyor of obscure automotive lore has to take public transport? GET THIS MAN A LADA!!
no, if we want some real obscure soviet motoring, give him a Moskvitch, 2140SL preferrably
*or a yugo
@@kiraaaxt *or a trabant
I see what's going on here. I smell the Roast.
The sneaky Bolshies are trying to trick our humble Narrator into liking public transport.
God, their deviancy knows no end ...
*or a Moskvich
God's car was a Plymouth, though. He drove Adam and Eve from the Garden in his Fury. Jesus drove a Honda but wasn't a Honda fanboy - he spoke not of his Accord.
Mods, ban that guy. Then unban him. Then ban all his friends. Then ban him again.
Jesus was a fan of British cars. He didn't drive that much though, having a chauffeur. Remember, he rode into Nazareth in his Triumph. This probably led to their tie-up with Honda.
His Dad?, not so much.
@@VintageSG But "the sound of his Triumph was heard throughout the land" - so it must have been pretty noisy, which makes me suspect they are talking about a bike.
Nah,god owns a pegaso convertible with an automatic.
@@TrimeshSZand Joshua was charging about the desert, on his Triumph.....
We’re so back
I see one of Binman's videos, I watch, I Like.
For anybody curious about the Oxford Vaporizer, it's a "temperature-compensated circle-breathing apparatus for ether anesthesia." So nothing to do with the subject.
That is infact nothing like what I imagined being, but almost exactly what I imagined it doing.
Love the transformation from automaker eulogy to anti-capitalist prayer. Don't let the bastards grind you down.
The UK car manufacturering scene used to be amazing. Anyone with a shed and mechanical knowledge could make a company, and that led to some absolute gems being built, even if they are actually shitboxes. Jowett (amazing video btw) Alvis, Brabham, Daimler (the British one, and the same one that made armoured cars in WW2) Lanchester, Jenson etc. Just to name a few
Its still kind of around now, with companies like Caterham, Ariel, Ginetta and Noble keeping the tradition of men in sheds build cars, but i would have lived to have seen glory days during the 50s,60s, and 70s
Thank you Mr Binman, as always making documentary worthy entertainment
The early car manufacturing scene was awesome everywhere. I ha e a book called 100 years of American Auto. It starts in the late 1800s and ends in 2000. But it shows literally hundreds of obscure and long defunct companies. They came and went every year and the book keeps track of their coming and going. It's so fascinating.
@@andrewesau51 ehh by "everywhere" you probably mean the western world, I'd guess. Plenty of countries out there who are either relatively recently experiencing an automotive manufacturing boom (I'm from such a city myself) or never hopped onto that proverbial train to begin with
My father was a Jewett Javelin fan and owner in the late 50’s. The picture at 12:39 of the engine cut away gave me chills. While investigating a rough running engine his left hand slipped into the unguarded fan. The hand was not amputated but most of it’s useful function was abruptly curtailed.
In 2018ish I had the chance to see 4 Jowett (2 Javelin and 2 Jupiter) parked along the main road in my town (in France near the German border). The nice chaps that owned those fine automobiles were not only surprised to find a 20 year old who could speak English but also knew what their cars were.
Excellent video and music choice as always.
Might have been Gods car but God I hated ours….. and that was even before we waited 6 months for a new crankshaft.
@@stevegibb6421 I've got a Lancia Gamma Coupe S1 and a TVR S2... reliable cars are for the weak !
Knowing it might explode at any time is part of the experience. A good car has to be fundamentally flawed... always in for a spicy love hate relationship ^^
WE ARE GOING OOP NARTH WITH THIS ONE BOYS!!
What you said about Bradford really resonates with me. I'm from South Bend Indiana and there's that rust belt gloom here too. We also lost an underdog manufacturer in our city: Studebaker. Funny anakedote my dad and uncle tried to steal the Studebaker sign. Unfortunately the owner caught wind and told them to eff off. So many relatives lost their job at the factory forever altering their lives and triggering white flight. Only in the last decade have we really started to recover.
My father ran me over with his Javelin when I was a toddler (circa 1962). I was told to stay in the kitchen, he then drove the car across the back yard to the garden where the oil change wouldn't make a mess. I ran out of course, and the car went right over me (breaking my collar bone) after which my poor old dad, terrified, (according to my mum) leapt out and the car carried on through a hedge into next doors garden. It turns out that I was fine and the collar bone was only diagnosed a week or two later when I wouldn't stop crying at night. The car was towed away and scrapped soon after.
Very much looking forward to this
Please do one about Riley, their history is fascinating. A bright star on UK automotive scene which burned out way too quick.
Now I know that I was unintentionally RPing as Jowett when I was playing the campaign mode in Automation lol
A fun fact: On the Javelin, to change a spark-plug it was necessary toe remove a front wheel.
Myth, I can get all four plugs out from the engine bay, it's actually harder from the wheel side because the inner wing gets in the way. It's a bit of a faf but if you use the Jowett plug spanner (which is shorter and thinner than normal and provided in the tool box built into the boot) then no problem except taking the skin off your knuckles when they come loose. Good story though. A better 'fun fact' is that a Jowett plug spanner is the only thing that will fit between the sides of Unistrut channel to remove an M10 bolt with a 17mm head, a normal 17mm socket won't fit.
Oh shit, Binman has Binned all over TH-cam again
yeah im binnin it
U deserve at least 250k on this vid man. If it doesn’t happen I’ll use a fork while I eat dinner.
American?
Superb video and thank you for featuring Jowett cars, as of writing this you have 54K views! That is a hell of a lot of people that probably never knew these fantastic cars existed, thanks again. A few fun facts: The Jowett Car Club is the oldest one make car club in the world; we just celebrated our 100th anniversary. A decent Javelin will still travel happily on a motorway and a well driven Jupiter will give a lot of cars a good run on a back road, if you are brave enough, no seat belts and drum brakes does focus the mind. There are still lots of them on the road and racing in international events, just this year a Jupiter got a class win at the Spa 6hrs. The club owns the spares company and can source or provide almost anything from the very earliest to the later 50’s cars at basically trade prices to members which helps keep so many cars on the road. They do get under your skin a bit and are a lot more interesting than some of the more normal retro stuff.
1:12 HA! Jokes on you, this is the only thing on my monitor! I'm not even doing anything else right now, not even eating!
@@xenotiic8356 what do you mean you're not eating while watching TH-cam and listening to a podcast and playing cities skylines and war thunder at the same time while scrolling through tiktok? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED???
When I were a nipper, dad drove a second hand Jowett Javelin. Followed by a Standard, then a Cortina Mk 2. They don't make 'em like that anymore.
Born and bred in Pudsey, grandad had a butchers shop in Laisterdyke, dad drove a Jowett Bradford van for the Yorkshire Electricity Board! Your video was BRILLIANT. especially the rant at the end! When I was a kid, living by then in Driffield (East Yorkshire) where Dad was transferred to, our metalwork teacher took us for the metalwork day out, morning spent touring Park Gate steelworks in Rotheram (Fecking AWESOME!), afternoon at Moore and Wright tools in Sheffield, the same fate befell Park Gate, and I feel exactly as your rant stated about it!!
Phil Whitley,
Phil whitley, my week this week, on youtube!
Finally back! What I really enjoy about your history lessons is that they are so detailed with side info, world history connection, music choices, memes, philosophy, economic theory, politics, and here even a bit of local adventure. It's a wild journey that makes it worth to watch it multiple times - which I did with your previous videos. You are so multi-layered with your content approach that is really unique in this space. Probably not for everyone, but really enjoyable for those who like it a bit more creative. Keep it up!
I remember as a schoolboy in the early 1950´s we used to look in through the drivers side door window and be amazed at the 100mph marked speedo, an incredible and dangerous level of performance to us in those days. Some years later my dad wound his Austin A40 Somerset up to a death defying indicated 70mph on a dual carriageway on a trip over to Hull. What 100mph would have feltlike in the Jowett I dread to think. Many years later a friend touched 100mph over the Snake Pass summit and that car, a Cortina Savage 3 litre V6, had the brakes and suspension to cope.
As a proud son of The Peoples Republic of Yorkshire myself i wouldnt be surprised to find out this thing was built from Pudding Batter and powered by Hendo's Relish and Tetleys bitter ....and yet still somehow managed to be better than a Hillman Imp on Mileage 😂
I sure wasn't expecting this, but I sure am happy to see it. My partner is a member of the Jowett car club of Australia. her dad has a serious love for these cars with him alone owning multiple working javelins and Jupiter's and at least one Bradford, and about 20 other in a state of disrepair. the light green car on the about page is one of theirs.
2:10 ah ha! You think you know me, but how can I alt-tab while driving hmmmm???!!
(Driving home... to play a sim RTS... oh god)
Im 72, I remember my great uncle Harry reminiscing over his Javlin, had driving a Rover 90 at the time.
We really can see in here how much these videos mean to you, and it serves to show that there are still content creators who actually care and put some effort into what they are doing.
Keep up the amazing work mate 🫡
Came for the interesting obscure car lore
Stayed for the deep dive into psychology of class society and rebellion
as a GPO engineer i was sent to Harvesters on a fault the diagram said that the connection point was in the old copper store ? they had to dig up old Fred a Jowett guy who remembered it 🤣 i well remember riding in the Bradfords as a boy thank you for re kindling olde memories 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Great video, thanks.
My Dad's first car, when I was a toddler in Sheffield in the mid-50's, was a Bradford van. There were no seats in the back so Dad would drive and Mum would sit on the passenger seat and me and my brothers would sit on garden chairs behind them. Unfortunately, these were not fixed to the floor so any corners taken at high speed would result in us all falling over. Luckily for us, high speed was a rarely achieved phenomenon.
Our next door neighbour had a black Jowett Javelin which we looked upon as the next stage in the evolution of our brown Bradford.
By the way, Jowett were not the only car builders in God's Own Country. We also had a small car builder in Sheffield called Simplex. Hand built and extremely rare. A video about Simplex would be of great interest to me, albeit an extreme challenge to produce. 😉
Richard
Obligatory YORKSHIRE, YORKSHIRE, YORKSHIRE! Glad your back our kid
Unfortunately I inherited a Jupiter, javelin, motorcycle and a bike.
Unfortunately I cannot bear to part with them.
Greetings from Victoria, Australia.😊
1:48 [insert Squidward "oh no he's hot" here]
Had early memories of the Javelin from Schooldays. My Dad had a motor repair workshop, he was infested with a Javelin that would not run on four cylinders in spite of having a valve grind. Not a happy workshop. The mechanics of the day were unfamiliar with anything not manufactured in USA. I was the smart arse bosses' son doing UE at School. It didn't take me long to find that the cause of no power to one side was a jammed open PCV [Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve] bleeding plain air into the inlet manifold. It was coked up with carbon, no doubt due to the low temperatures and non detergent oil. I do remember being impressed with the engineering design, but I was not so impressed with the attitude of the mechanics. How things don't change. .
Welcome back
god man, actually the best videos on the internet, another bit of peak
Love this as always! I was sat there last week wondering "Whens the next Binman video" and here you are doing my carstism a great service, thank you
@intergalacticBinman - Great to see you back! Another enjoyable romp through the history of the independent car makers of the UK, tragic and heart wrenching as the subject is at times. I remained tuned in and looking forward to your next missive. Thanks, from the west end of the pond.
I'm amazed someone capable of using the internet still remebers these cars. They must have sold quite well in Sweden since in the mid fifties the junkyards where littered with them. By then they had dissapeared from the roads though. Those who remembered them way back then knew them as "Jävelins" as in "Jävligt dålig" = incredibly bad in Swedish. Today a few can still be found at Töckfors junkyard, a place with about 800 cars that closed down in the seventies. They've been sitting there for about seventy years now. Nartually their spareparts did not sell well so they're still remarkalble complete. That said they have like all of the rest cars there long since become one with nature. As of today there are less than ten in the register, none in traffic. A year ago a fully functional one was up for sale for sale for around £ 250. I did not sell. R.I.P, Jowett Jävelin, sörjd av få saknad av ingen = mourned by few, missed by no one.
Quality yorkshireposting
Shame its bradford tho like
I do feel that the true Yorkshire mans car is a Reliant Robin. More space for the whippet
Fantastic video, and insanely beautiful, Poster worthy thumbnail!
You have very quickly become my favourite car youtuber, if not one of my favourites outright. This is super interesting stuff that no one talks about, presented in well written story with great presentation and humour!
Also when is the new Hot Air Outtake coming?
Yet another automotive audiovisual masterpiece from the Binman. What a story Jowett had, I never heard of them before and I am already enamoured by their cars. I eagerly await the next video in another half a year's time. Hopefully you make a video on Bristol, my favourite British car company. The most British of such companies, producing fascinating and unique cars until surprisingly recently, and also lacking much information or focus on the internet, especially for their later cars. And the owner, Tony Crook, was a most eccentric fellow. Also, seeing you cover Alvis, Wolseley, and Riley would be wonderful.
The comeback we needed
The video is over and yet I'm still waiting for Enzo Ferrari to pop up to give me a jumpscare
Hey
@@EnzoFerrari-r8z AAAAAAAH!
Mark Fisher is cited to the point of meme, but for good reason.
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My grandparents lived in Shipley all their life and you actually passed their house in this video, I've been to that Morrisons many times and my dad went to school behind that Texaco. The Motorworld dealership always had quite exotic cars in it, Ferrari's, Lotus's, Mclaren's, etc. I saw many cool cars in it when growing up in the 2000s. I never knew Jowett had any connection to Yorkshire, let alone somewhere I knew.
I don't go to Bradford very much nowaday on account of it being a shithole, infested with the worse drivers in the country, by far.
1:17 good guess on your demographic, a very well made match. sadly however your content is 1st monitor prime time full attention only. cope and seethe.
Great video my dad had quite a few jowetts while I was growing up including a Bradford a Javelin and the drophead version of the Abbott’s bodied coupe at 19 mins. I also remember one of the prototype R4’s parked on our drive it belonged to a friend of his. Great music, big Gang of Four fan
Wonderful video. Keep going spreading the word.
Nice touch with the Holdsworth tune
I found a Abandond Jowet javelin when exploring a abandoned car grave yard stunning cars
Gang of Four, Alan Holdsworth - you have me hooked simply with the music. Nice cover!
Ay oop, ‘ows tha goin’?
Uz naybers wuz reet posh ‘n lardy dah. They ‘ad a Javelin when I were nobbut a kid. ‘Twer fust car I ever saw wi an ‘eeter. We thort it were gradely.
Translation:
Hello, how do you do?
Our neighbours were exceptionally upper class and somewhat snobbish. They owned a Javelin, during my early years. It was fitted with a heater which was outside my prior experience. We considered it a fine motor vehicle.
Holy fuck hes back
I'll be honest, never heard of Jowett until now and thought for a terrifying second it was Jowo: God's Own Car. Man gets an MX5 and is suffering hubris.
Jokes aside, fantastic video, funny & educational about a brand I had zero knowledge of prior
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yo i think this guy likes yorkshire
His comment comes up as translate to English for me 😂😂😂😂
Perfect music choices, really worked to drive this video home imo 😄
1:09 is a crossover i wasn't expecting
Your best video yet. Definitely worth the wait!
Fantastic video mate, I’m glad Jowett is getting the recognition it deserves
Jowett played their cards well, but its a strict game. Some blunders here and there and it was essentially 3 queens vs 5 pawns.
They made history, closed down, and endes on their best terms
Aight, got a pint and a pie. Time to learn about Yorkshire cars that aren't fucking Ladas
Wowzas. I knew you had something stashed away somewhere. The production values are THROUGH THE ROOF with this one! 😂🥰🥰🥰
I've found a new channel to binge, love the videos so far :)
just when you think your sub box is full of slop an banger like this comes out... hell yeah!
0:22 - no they didn’t. Mercedes ant Porsche are not even close to the Rhein.
Thank you, please see description and pinned comment
Another banger of a video - wish I could give a second thumbs up for the inclusion of Allan Holdsworth.
Where have you been?!?! Its like finding a lost puppy. Except the puppy is actually a 1980s Ford Escort Cosworth
Wow. Jowett did the right thing instead of burning to the ground. Unreal.
Even that cars aren’t my forte I’ll gladly watch a historical snapshot about the cut-throat nature of the automobile industry which back then required so much constant investment and risk-taking that only one or two mistakes could shut up shop for good.
Damn that got personal towards the end, i kind of feel that contempt for the world today, and this capitalist hellscape which we are forced into, keep rocking in the free world man.
Brilliant. Informative, funny and imho politically really well informed. Loved the Gang of Four!
My father drove a Jowett Javelin in the 1950s brilliant car it was black. And even as a boy I was always amazed at how shiny that black paint was and the tough build quality of that car.
Capitalist Realism might be the most important book for understanding how capitalism is not evil, but it is the enemy that we must fight tooth and nail.
Just a shame the audio book was read by Russell Twating Brand of all people.
me within 1 min: oh this obscure channel definitely earned my subscribe
also me: oh I'm already subscribed
the good ending
If you can’t make it, no one can. Keep up the impeccable work binman!
cool music choice w Gang of Four
My everyday driver is a 1956 Austin A90, excellent music choice. Cheers.
Fabulous video! Informative and entertaining.
Our lad is back! Time to crack a pint of a Yorkshire Bi'er (bitter to non Yorkshire folks) and and watch this glorious video.
I've known about the javelin since i was an apprentice and the senior diesel mechanic i worked under had two. Very cool things. They are unloved in Australia but interesting.
As someone who grew up behind that Morrisons and a petrol head I bloody love this video!!! Absolutely class!!!
motortown, not motown. motown was a music label.
I leant to drive in a Bradford estate. later, I bought a Javelin for myself.
The Oxford Vapouriser sounds to me like a weapon of mass destruction conceived, built and wielded by a British supervillain from the early-to-mid 20th century!
Dude you need to make a print or something of that thumbnail.
THE OXFORD VAPOURISER!!!!!
God in heaven that's funny!
Just wow, i love this channel
Thank you for distilling the spirit of West Yorkshire and putting it into a sentence. 😂
Being from round that way, I can totally understand how going to Bradford for the day let you to a total existential breakdown.
On a serious note, I'm not sure that a uni student up from London Googling how many of the local residents are kippers (or gammons if you prefer), suggesting that people who own expensive to run classics are "shitbox" owners who can't afford anything else; before lauding them as working class heros is really a great look.
I get it and I appreciate the intention and the energy, but its quite patronising. Bradford gets a lot of shit, some of it deserved and some not. I think that you are well within your rights to talk about social issues and good for you for standing up for the little guy. I just feel as though its not really right to make a city the backdrop of a broader polemic because it's "northern and poor". Your views on the degredation of working class jobs and communities are interesting, but a bit underdeveloped. Maybe do an episode where you get more deeply into what happened to auto workers and regions in post-industrial Britain - it could put a more human spin on it. Bradford is a great example for that, but it needs more. On election Googling, you might have seen that the second placed candidate (with over 20% vote share) was a single-issue Gaza candidate. What does that say about marginalised working class communities?
Sorry to come across so negative, I like the documentaries overall and I'll watch in future. If you want another weird and wonderful auto story from Yorkshire (in an even weirder place!) check out Karrier in Huddersfield. They got nabbed by Rootes, however the building is still (mostly) there - it's a car park these days, so you can look around. There's also a surviving descendant of the business still independent in wonderfully named Penistone!
The Gang of Four cover was good!
Thanks for leaving such a thoughtful comment! You've basically put into words a lot of insecurities I had when I was putting that segment together. While I am from Yorkshire and grew up here, I am very conscious that I come from a part of Yorkshire that is, comparatively, better off. It's one of a few reasons I included the segment about the bike rider, and said I was "challenged" by him. I used that word because that was how I felt at the time, and because I knew I should probably try to honestly communicate the perspective I'm coming from, i.e. someone who does not regularly come into contact with that sort of thing, because I didn't want to seem like I was pretending to be anything I wasn't. I thought about saying something that more explicitly said "I'm not actually from a hardcore working class background etc." but whenever I tried writing it it always came off as either sounding like I was trying brag/flex or weirdly self-flagellant, so I thought it best to try and communicate it in the way I described, and also largely avoid invoking social class as a term on the whole.
I realise a lot of the points I made were not given a lot of context/elaborated on. This is partially because I was trying to experiment with a more stream of consciousness style of writing than I usually do, as my usually more heavily scripted style didn't quite feel right; and partially because it was supposed to be a video about Jowett and I was already kicking myself for adding way too much on the end as is lol. As a result I can absolutely see how some things I said can be taken the way you've pointed out.
I mean it with the truest intention, with regards to the "gammon" thing, that I was not walking around thinking "I wonder how many of these filthy poors are RACIST!!1!1!" but more so "We hear so much of right wing movements recruiting from the disaffected working class, I wonder if that has actually materialised in this case." And that's why I included the stats, because on the whole the answer was "not really." Looking back, I should have made a bigger deal about that rather than tacking it on as an afterthought and moving on.
Just to quickly explain what I meant with the "shitbox" thing as well (this is a little circuitous so bear with me lol): it was mainly based on the fact that, as you pointed out as well, Bradford's reputation somewhat precedes itself. "Oh bloody hell not Bradford mate, it's a shithole," etc etc. So to go there and see things that people clearly had a passion for was refreshing.
Cars, I think, are very expressive and can say a lot about the driver. The diesel 205 driver could've got a more modern car for their money but they chose a diesel 205, and they chose to put racing seats in it. It was very human and expressive, which was refreshing when we live under an economic system that does its best to dehumanise, especially in more deprived areas. That, I think was the point I was trying (and perhaps failed) to make: the crushing weight of neoliberal capitalism hasn't stopped these people from putting their own stamps on their cars and then using their cars to put their own stamps on the world around them. In retrospect the use of "shitbox" was a little blunt; I was trying to evoke the fact that the lay, none-car-brained person wouldn't consider a diesel Peugeot 205 with inexplicable racing seats exciting. They might say "why are you driving that old thing?" But to me, at least, it's not a shitbox, anything but, and the fact the lay person may disregard them made them all the more expressive and human to me.
I hope I've clarified a little bit what I meant and where I'm coming from, and if you are even slightly more charitable towards it then I'm happy for it. I hope this hasn't come off too defensive either, and if this has only reinforced your original thoughts I don't blame you. On the whole that segment was a little truncated but for reasons I hope I've explained: if given more time or different circumstances I would have let it breath and become its own thing. None of any of this stops its flaws from existing though, and I hope to write something similar without those flaws in the future.
I may also come back and edit this comment at some point if I think of a better way of getting my thoughts across I am very tired lol
I was aware Karrier was absorbed into Rootes at some point but I didn't know the building was still there, I'll have to visit at some point!
as someone who daily drives a 1997 Honda life kei car i can say I refuse to be a number for some sales engineer screaming in to the abyss with all 45 hp screaming behind me
good video.i liked your cover of i found that essence rare. gang of four is the only british music ive listened to so it was nice to hear
dude i love your videos so much. i need more. more niche automotive history YESS
It was a nice little car. Their history very interesting
Excellent video, thanks for the Yorkshire big up! Also Bradford and Leeds both have an odd mix of classic, 90's max power and modern super vehicle lovers it's quite a petrol heads dream also just to cheer you up a bit Ginnetta cars are from garforth in Leeds and then there's tuning houses like overfinch in Bradford still waving a banner for industry 👍
that outro was soo necessary
When I just to go to college in Macclesfield there was a Jupiter, no idea what it was but showed the picture I got to my dad (He has a lot of 1920s - 1950s Austin’s most of which are 7s which you showed in the video). And I recently went to C & M with some uni friends (automotive society)we past a small convoy of Javelins and no one knew what they were, until I told everyone that they were Jowetts (still nobody knew what they were).