@@davidbenson7315 many thanks Sir, since I made that comment, there has been a company making Ford Mks Escorts, 1&2, bodies. Which, is a cunning plan for someone with a wrecked model. Escort, and possibly an oil well, to transfer all the running gear and still have a car without a computer to ruin everything.! ......... jr..........
the tubular frames rot worse than an English child's molars. My uncle literally lived up the road from the factory..In the middle of the night they used to test drive them past his house to a roundabout and then back to the factory...Every 20 minutes you'd hear one screaming by at well past the speed limit..That went on for years, with the occasional warning from the police but TVR never really seemed that bothered by the authorities...Great fun to drive though..but fucking scary.
Im in Sarasota, FLORIDA . I owned a 1969 MGB which I bought in 1986. I had to buy a part from special part store owned by a local man who was from Bristol. He owned a 1967 Rolls Royce sedan, and he asked me what I thought my car and his had in common. He said they were both handmade and laughed. His wife had a 1974 Jensen Interceptor she claimed was sold new in Miami to John Lennon.
when ordering , parts for , "B" series engines order Morris , do it from any commonwealth country besides UK go to any other , these , great motors . North South ,fine , East West ,built for different terrain ,
@@duncanyourmate2433 thanks for the advice, but I haven’t owned that car for over 20 years. I sold it to a collector who restored it and last I heard it was running around Naples Florida. Was a fun car but when BMC started getting into trouble dealerships began to close and then the regulation regarding 5 mph crash bumpers really hit them hard. When I had mine in 1986. The Englishman who won the auto parts store was an effective parts supplier for BMC products at that time that we’re still left.
AMAZING1 How both inept management and self sabotage by the actual labourer force decimated the auto industry of an entire nation and not one wartime bombing or any other outside influence was required. Not just any nation either as Great Britain had more automakers than anyone. Including maybe the U.S. as G.B. had so many low volume specialty constructors.
British luxury cars are some of the best cars in my opinion I really love the /Rolls Royce /Bentely /Juagar /Land Rover /Austin /Morgan /Aston Martin /Alvis /Armstrong Siddley/ Wolsey/ TVR/ Bristol/ Daimler/ Lagonda/ and I’m American.
I agree , yet would not sell one (ok Aston ,Morgan ,TVR , ) twist my arm and the only way Any XJ series Jaguar ran , was with , American V8 , a man Rod Hadfield from Victoria made it possible , made many other gearbox swaps available (cast Toyota box ) I hope he's a millionaire, Engineering Skills Earnt Him That
Austin 1800's had great seats ,whilst awaiting tow truck or drying distributor, only a few independents ,still exist , unsure of who owns their product, Jensen missed ,english comfort reliable Mopar running gear
Attention people complaining about the many British marques it didn’t mention. It’s an Australian series, so it basically only mentioned British vehicles made or assembled in Oz, plus ones commercially imported to Oz. That’s also why it didn’t really mentioned Vauxhall & Ford UK vehicles either, as US manufacturers made their own vehicles in Oz too.
An unsuitable ,distance etc , No tariffs (god save the queen etc), many USA cars were CKD assembled here or Canada =commonwealth import no tariffs, like %50 ,added to price ,even with dodgy RHD conversion
What a nice video! Great to see that somebody doesn't only do his homework in a sincere way but is also able to present the content in a no-nonsense way! Well done! PS: the issue presented is very interesting since the Brits did influence so much in the car industry. Sad to see how everything went down the drain and all that is left is investment fund-owned luxury car companies or went to Chinese rule...
Overlooked AC, Caterham, TVR (Lotus & Jaguar mentioned though), although there where over 500 different car manufacturers in the UK, it would be difficult to have a 1 hour documentary cover them all!
TVR should definitely be there.... And Caterham... And AC.... It's wrong to speak about British car industry without mentioning those 3. Waste of time with Aston Martin parade in front of the queen....
@@bmaie3413 Considering that they didn't even mention the Rootes Group, which used to be a mass producer, it's probably too much to ask for to have any specilist company covered in a programme like this.
They also put second hand machinery into British factories from Germany and installed the new machines in Germany expecting the same output from British workers as Germany not a level playing field we all want
I get why Ford and Vauxhall (GM) were only mentioned in passing, being foreign-owned from the start or very early on (Vauxhall), but I heard no mention of the Rootes Group, which arguably were never quite in the league of Austin/Morris/BMC, but were around and British-owned at the height of the British car industry in the 1950s.
Concerning Vauxhall it is very enlightening to read the memoirs of Alfred Pritchard Sloan „ my years at General Motors“ which he wrote at 90 years around 1964/65. With my own words, he wrote that around 1929 GM acquired a very well organized productive company at Germany called Opel and a little production shop at Britain name not mentioned around 1930?
I have worked in Tanzania near the border with Burundi and Liberia and Madagascar and the favoured vehicle there were all Toyota Land Cruiser and PU trucks (also in South America). The whole time we were overseas I saw one (1) Land Rover and that had a Toyota motor, transmission and running gear installed by an East German mechanic and several Tanzanian army Landrover jeeps donated by the British gov't. They are no longer a dependable vehicle.
Poor industrial relations between management and workers were responsible. This did not happen at Ford or Vauxhall where management actually engaged with the unions. Unfortunately, the industrial relations were combined with below par cars produced by BMC/BL
18:58 The Morris and Austin brands DID have a new model, launched in 1958, it was alternately branded as Austin 7 or Morris 850 but became widely known as the "Mini-Minor".
The Industrial Revolution started with textile manufacturing. Steam-powered motor drove the spinning and weaving machines that made fabric and clothing affordable for low income people. During the agrarian, feudal era most people were peasant farmers and clothing was very expensive. Now it is Aston-Martin, Rolls-Royce, and Bentley who are making automobiles for the super wealthy.
@Make Me Believe - When the Brits first got that 215 V8, to them it was amazingly powerful and amazingly dependable/long lasting... they were used to 40 - 100 HP engines that lasted 25K miles... In the USA, a version of that 215 was available turbocharged stock to anyone starting in 1962... massive torque and HP compared to the wimpy Daimler... th-cam.com/video/iieDedNEYuI/w-d-xo.html Another version won F1 races,,,
Skip to 19:00 for a neat summary of what went wrong. First, look at the mass-market designs (not the TRs,Jags etc) of about '46-56. TH-cam is full of nostalgia for those vehicles which today look endearing, but at the time were underpowered Frumpy Dumpy compared to what others like the Germans and Americans were doing - and that was what counted. Britain took it's eye off the ball. Secondly, there was the deadly poisonous mix of workshy workers/clueless managers/shortsighted govt. Yes, folks, this was your "Greatest Generation" who won WW2 (well, with help). Excuses such as post-war austerity are blown away by the fact that most others (especially the Germans) bounced right back within a few years. Not Britain - who incredibly were still rationing 10 years after WW2 ended - govt. incompetance. Having said all that, it is sad that the world moved on to such a point that British national traits such as "decency" and "not trying too hard" went by the wayside as the world turned more nasty. Oh Well.
I'm frenchie donc je parle frenchie ( but I was an excellent school boy in 80's , my teacher who's learned English speak had à Mini Mayfair Black and fine golden teint stripes) La production industrielle et artisanale de véhicules anglais m'a toujours fasciné par la diversité et le style 100/100 british !!! Que ce soit Aston Martin,Bentley ,Bond ecce terra, je suis en extase devant de telles beautés mécaniques, ayant grandit avec des series et films anglais ( The avengers :Chapeau melon et bottes 👢 de cuir,mission cassé cou et Bond,James Bond avec ses Lotus , dont celle de "RIEN que pour vos yeux " est une version turbo !
No mention of Lagonda, although a fair bit about Aston Martin. They also made David Brown tractors, reckoned by many farmers as the "Rolls Royce" of agricultural vehicles.
Funny, I always thought Rolls Royce was the "Rolls Royce" of agricultural vehicles. I love Lagondas, but you expect a full run-down of everything Brit in one hour???
ive got an A 4 audie from 1997 truly great car it goes throue mot every year the reason for this the bodywork is devoid of rust .its the best car ive ever had which were Fords ie rust buckets ttfn&ty
No proper mention of Hillman, Humber, Sunbeam, Singer, Riley, Lagonda, Jowet, Ford (GB), Vauxhall, Rootes, etc etc.... Film clips and historical accounts all over the place... Some "history"...!
It’s an Australian series, so it basically only mentioned British vehicles made or assembled in Oz, plus ones imported to Oz. That’s also why it didn’t really mentioned Vauxhall & Ford as US manufacturers made their own vehicles in Oz
Are yes and I remember the Hillman three times London too Sydney Australia what an awesome team. These activities just inspired car clubs around the world to just grow with family members, and champions and world champions would come. 😊😊😊
No need to Snipe about it, though they could Imp-rove by hiring a Hunter for information .. Maybe a beautiful woman with the body of a Gazelle wearing Stilettos in an Alpine cottage?
I agree, the idea of for example the MG badge on a Chinees car is ridiculous, verging on misleading. The other badge problem I have is when they take a regular cheap car, stick on a fancy badge, give it extra padding and call it a luxury car.
Rolls was keen on aeroplane development, a keenness not shared by Royce. After Rolls' death in a plane crash, the Rs of the iconic hood ornament became black-filled.
I decided to watch all of this, because at time mark 0:07 there was a Bristol, and I was interested to see what would be said about them. Low and behold, nothing, zilch, zero.
Here in mainland Europe too and Fiat still suffers from this horrible period some fourty years ago, but now they are good value for money and pretty dependable. My sister in law drives a Fiat 500 C and my brother an Alfa Romeo Guilletta (not imported in the US) and they are both very satisfied with the quality and reliability.
british cars of that era were appalling..and then the 80's ones combines the worst of the 70's and then added even more bland styling and shiny interior plastics...
One day fella, depreciating Bentley’s would be a better shout than buying one new as new cars plummet after 2 + years as a general rule. 2005-2010 Bentley’s can be decently priced
At least your money will be "worth" as much "tomorrow" as "today". That Bentley? Not so much. Nothing takes a "hit" in "resale value" like a "luxury car" and "British" vehicles in particularly "drop" in "resale value" like a fucking rock.
No mention of Bristol (RIP MARCH 2020) TVR, Marcos, Noble, nor the fact that the majority of F1 and US carting vehicles are built in the UK. A bit sketchy but entertaining
The 1.9 litre 4 ,fuel use like V8,a guy from Victoria ,Rod Hadfield ,made conversion plates, to enable a local GM, product a 3.3- litre six cylinder to fit comfortably, 3 times performance, half fuel use,thus Holden (Chevrolet when exported Sth Africa etc)could change from 3 on the tree cars not 4WD to cast iron Celica 4 speed Box,extremely utilised .L/rover died out when Toyota L/cruisers ,Nissan patrols arrived, Defenders still used by Army
I owned first a 1969 and then 15 months later a 1970 GT6+. Absolutely the car that reminded the driver the most of a legal go-kart for the highway. Great handling but far from the most robust build quality. The inline 6 was only 2,,000cc's. These days I don't think any car maker builds a 2 litre engine with so many cylinders.
I don't think DeLorean can be considered a British car? John DeLorean was American, he just took advantage of the tax breaks from the British government and the incentives from Northern Ireland industry to have his car manufactured in Northern Ireland. With this logic you could call Toyota, Nissan, Honda & Daewoo British as they have factories in the UK?
The British car industry is alive and well, and in many ways, leading the world with many of the finest marques. The manufacturing industry in Britain was murdered by socialism and more accurately by the nationalization of British Leyland. It took nearly 30 years to recover entirely. As demonstrated by Lada, governments make terrible cars.
I would say there were three industrial revolutions in regard to transport: the steam engine, the internal combustion engine, and then the electric motor with battery and computerization. For some reason the British were very good at steam technology, and then lost the ball at ICE. I noticed that when Cadillac the American car maker got going in the 1910's that tight tolerances and standardized parts were a very big deal. Henry Ford wanted to make high quality cheap cars at a high production rate. For some reason technical production in Britain lacks for tight strict standards in parts and engines. It seems they made good stuff in the luxury market, but didn't care to push high quality in low cost tier of the car market. Manufacturing in mass seems to be involving a lot of clunky shops with idiosyncratic manufacturing processes. It seems that if computer manufacturing was still a very British sort of thing, that PC buyers on a budget would be stuck with 286 PC IBM compatibles, and the Mayfair set would be buying overpriced PC's with multi-cores and gigabyte memory sticks. The old VW Beatle was quality built for the little guy from the very start. Is there a class mindset in British manufacturing, or is it that there a feudal/guild attitude to manufacturing that precludes tight tolerances and standardization. If I thought like a guild master I would make everything as home made and proprietary as possible. What do you think?
Engineering tolerances can be strictly controlled by employing Statistical Process Control methods, however, this method necessitates that machines, materials, personnel and measuring instruments must all meet rigid standards. The Japanese employ this method covering auto manufacturing.
The biggest problem with British cars in general is that most of them had Lucas electrics. Horrid! Refused to modernize. An old racetrack JOKE: Do you know why Brits drink room temperature brews? Their refrigerators had Lucas electrics too!
In 1994 I bought a brand new Mecedes C-class and horror - the brake servo was labelled LUCAS! I could not believe that M-B could sink so low as to buy parts frpom Lucas. Fortunately it was dependable and I kept it for 12 years. The C32 AMG that I bought used 4 years old was NOT dependable, I kept it for 5 years and traded it for an Audi. Less than a year after it was apparently wrecked because it was deleted from the car registry. M-B's from the early 2000's had enormous quality problems, but in hindsight , a friend's Jaguar XJ12 is worse.
Another Lucas Prince of Darkness joke: Did you know that Lucas tried to build a computer? It failed because they couldn't make it leak oil or emit smoke.
I saw that , typical English worker stuffing things up as they have done to GMH , putting dents in cars just because they where pissed off, Wednesday cars where better than Monday cars as an example
After watching this and all things considered, the British automobile industry seems to have a history of mismanagement, poor design and financial disasters. Germany, Italy and Sweden still set the standard.
I don't know who says to save as much money as possible when making cars for the U.K. but everytime I see one from Europe, I cringe. People think it's normal. When Europeans come to the U.K. and drive a car here, they are confused and call this layout dumb.
Rolls, Bentley, Jaguar, Aston Martin and Rover were all British brands well engineered and with exceptional build quality. One problem is the really fine Rover cars we're built in the 1950's and early 60's. Oh yeah, one other. The Morgan. Inept management and unbelievably short sighted trade unions killed a huge manufacturing juggernaut. Jaguar in particular was a bargain in the 1950's and 60's for it's workmanship and performance.
Italy have had their fair share of problems, I would say Japan sets the standards these days. Sweden only has one surviving mass manufacturer and its owned by the Chinese (and was owned by Ford before that).
After their Pre WW2 engineering exploits, scholars still argue why Britain declined the way it did after WW2. No-one really knows. No major country simply gave up trying to be great the way the UK did.
I was disappointed. My old Austin Healey 3000 never got a mention. The 104 to the last one built the Healey went from race car to touring class with sensual lines and a cast iron 6 cyl that sounded like the base on a pipe organ. I miss her melodies on Highway One in California.
Great production. It was comprehensive. It would have been more complicated to go year by year. Better manufacturer by manufacturer with the mergers & buyouts. It made good sense to me. Yes, it was quite the history lesson.
There was very little about early cars in this video and what there was shown featured very few cars. Much of what is being said bears no relation to what is being shown.
good vid. i wish they would have talked about the ac cobra or the sunbeam tiger.. those little cars with american grunt were fabulous beasts..some of the most iconic and sought after cars from the average garage gearhead to the top collectors..
The relient Robin not only a oxymoron but a thrill every turn ,single wheel in front wasn't sure if it would roll over going round corners see top gear episode on them don't hate on spelling grampa worked at Lucas and British Leyland
How many car makers are in Britain now? We make cars for the Germans, Japanese and whoever owns Lotus this week. Rolls Royce, Bentley, Land Rover, Range Rover, Jaguar, Mini all iconic British cars, are foreign owned and the really sad part is that nobody gives a toss. We don't make British cars anymore. Then again, we don't make anything anymore.
BMC and Leyland made cars all over the world, Australia, South Africa, Brazil, Spain, Belgium, Italy. Many British car were styled by italians. The Mini was engineered by issigonis who as Greek. Companies based in the UK pay UK tax, employ UK workers and they have UK heritage. Who owns it doesn't make that much difference. Was the Triumph Acclaim more British than the new Mini? Is the Ford Cortina American or British? Rover used an American engine. What makes a car British?
Much to the oint, well done. But since this was made Morgan was bought by the Italians, probably a good thing. Things chane, Stalin had Rolls Royce but Breznew had a few Mercedes Benz 600 cars. A Lada for Putin I hope.
but not as detrimental as the bosses...unions started because they were sending kids down mines and mums breast feeding babies at the loom, and men working in the most dangerous and horrible conditions imaginable.
Half you twits who feel it fashionable to bash liberals, unions and progressive movements haven't a clue about the real world. Most of you march in lockstep with your fathers political views and parrot them without ever understanding that British trade unions are and were about as piss poor examples as one could find. The fact is that reputable unions representing highly skilled workers provide excellent, expert quality work but I suppose you'd rather some nitwit paid peanuts and over worked to the point of causing a fatal accident would be your choice to weld the piping in a nuclear power plant because no way management wouldn't be just as concerned for the safety and earning power of that fine craftsman. Fact is once the criminal element is rooted out of any compromised union the quality and productivity are unequalled by anything management could muster. Unions may comprise a smaller percentage of workers now than in the past but for skilled trades where real competent expertise is demanded the dedication of a union workforce is what gets the job done to the highest possible standard. As for progressives, they are the reason we are not stuck wearing the swim wear of 1910 on the beach. Why society evolves and why any of us besides upper corporate management has any form of health care at all. Most CEO's are not as smart as Henry Ford once was with the foresight to organise his factories and workers to a standard where they could be customers of the cars they built. You should get a different handle and stop showing your divisive ignorance for the world to see.
@@davescroggins895 Sure, because you never give a second thought to what unions accomplish beyond what you likely view as bloated pay and benefits for their rank and file. Try considering the safety of a nuclear plant if only management dictated safety standards, quality of work, expertise of workers etc. If you think management of corporations is universally benevolent with the foresight to pay appropriately for the most skilled tradesmen then obviously you would not understand the methods unions develop to train their highly skilled and safe rank and file.
If mk 1 and 2 escorts and Morris minors were remade without computers, the queue to buy them would be three miles long.
What do you base that on? I do think that reviving the Morris brand as an electric car brand could work.
MST are already building Escorts.
There's also a company making modern Morris j series vans but they're electric. They do look good though.
@@davidbenson7315 many thanks Sir, since I made that comment, there has been a company making Ford Mks Escorts, 1&2, bodies. Which, is a cunning plan for someone with a wrecked model. Escort, and possibly an oil well, to transfer all the running gear and still have a car without a computer to ruin everything.! ......... jr..........
where would be the market for them...
since BrexShit, the UK car industry is doomed!
I dont care what anyone thinks! I love the TVR! And im pissed that they are not allowed in the US! Raw power! And raw looks! Damned tree huggers!
the tubular frames rot worse than an English child's molars. My uncle literally lived up the road from the factory..In the middle of the night they used to test drive them past his house to a roundabout and then back to the factory...Every 20 minutes you'd hear one screaming by at well past the speed limit..That went on for years, with the occasional warning from the police but TVR never really seemed that bothered by the authorities...Great fun to drive though..but fucking scary.
Very comprehensive coverage of the Brit Auto Industry, and greatfully viewed by a lifelong Britcarophile! Tnx!
Im in Sarasota, FLORIDA . I owned a 1969 MGB which I bought in 1986. I had to buy a part from special part store owned by a local man who was from Bristol. He owned a 1967 Rolls Royce sedan, and he asked me what I thought my car and his had in common. He said they were both handmade and laughed. His wife had a 1974 Jensen Interceptor she claimed was sold new in Miami to John Lennon.
when ordering , parts for , "B" series engines order Morris , do it from any commonwealth country besides UK go to any other , these , great motors . North South ,fine , East West ,built for different terrain ,
@@duncanyourmate2433???
before i buy a UK made car.... i never would buy one, or a car from the USA....
i want to arrive at my planed destination, not on a towing truck!
@@duncanyourmate2433 thanks for the advice, but I haven’t owned that car for over 20 years. I sold it to a collector who restored it and last I heard it was running around Naples Florida. Was a fun car but when BMC started getting into trouble dealerships began to close and then the regulation regarding 5 mph crash bumpers really hit them hard. When I had mine in 1986. The Englishman who won the auto parts store was an effective parts supplier for BMC products at that time that we’re still left.
Nice job! If I had put this together, it would be 10 hours long.
This is definitely copyrighted content from the internet, a popular media company and hundred's of researchers made this content.
AMAZING1 How both inept management and self sabotage by the actual labourer force decimated the auto industry of an entire nation and not one wartime bombing or any other outside influence was required. Not just any nation either as Great Britain had more automakers than anyone. Including maybe the U.S. as G.B. had so many low volume specialty constructors.
British luxury cars are some of the best cars in my opinion I really love the /Rolls Royce /Bentely /Juagar /Land Rover /Austin /Morgan /Aston Martin /Alvis /Armstrong Siddley/ Wolsey/ TVR/ Bristol/ Daimler/ Lagonda/ and I’m American.
I agree , yet would not sell one (ok Aston ,Morgan ,TVR , ) twist my arm and the only way Any XJ series Jaguar ran , was with , American V8 , a man Rod Hadfield from Victoria made it possible , made many other gearbox swaps available (cast Toyota box ) I hope he's a millionaire, Engineering Skills Earnt Him That
Austin 1800's had great seats ,whilst awaiting tow truck or drying distributor, only a few independents ,still exist , unsure of who owns their product, Jensen missed ,english comfort reliable Mopar running gear
Attention people complaining about the many British marques it didn’t mention. It’s an Australian series, so it basically only mentioned British vehicles made or assembled in Oz, plus ones commercially imported to Oz. That’s also why it didn’t really mentioned Vauxhall & Ford UK vehicles either, as US manufacturers made their own vehicles in Oz too.
An unsuitable ,distance etc , No tariffs (god save the queen etc), many USA cars were CKD assembled here or Canada =commonwealth import no tariffs, like %50 ,added to price ,even with dodgy RHD conversion
The pictures bear no relation to the dialogue as well as being totally out of chronological order really very annoying
What a nice video!
Great to see that somebody doesn't only do his homework in a sincere way but is also able to present the content in a no-nonsense way!
Well done!
PS: the issue presented is very interesting since the Brits did influence so much in the car industry. Sad to see how everything went down the drain and all that is left is investment fund-owned luxury car companies or went to Chinese rule...
I was hoping to learn something about minis i love them so much
Overlooked AC, Caterham, TVR (Lotus & Jaguar mentioned though), although there where over 500 different car manufacturers in the UK, it would be difficult to have a 1 hour documentary cover them all!
TVR should definitely be there.... And Caterham... And AC.... It's wrong to speak about British car industry without mentioning those 3.
Waste of time with Aston Martin parade in front of the queen....
@@bmaie3413 Considering that they didn't even mention the Rootes Group, which used to be a mass producer, it's probably too much to ask for to have any specilist company covered in a programme like this.
Ford made legendary British cars. Such as the Cortina or the Sierra RS Cosworth.
not forgetting the Escort, used in Rally.
They also put second hand machinery into British factories from Germany and installed the new machines in Germany expecting the same output from British workers as Germany not a level playing field we all want
I loved the mondeo also we had 3 growing up
I get why Ford and Vauxhall (GM) were only mentioned in passing, being foreign-owned from the start or very early on (Vauxhall), but I heard no mention of the Rootes Group, which arguably were never quite in the league of Austin/Morris/BMC, but were around and British-owned at the height of the British car industry in the 1950s.
Perhaps because Sir Reginald Rootes the brother of the CEO Lord Rootes refused to buy a destroyed factory in Germany at Wolfsburg for a pound 😂
Concerning Vauxhall it is very enlightening to read the memoirs of Alfred Pritchard Sloan „ my years at General Motors“ which he wrote at 90 years around 1964/65.
With my own words, he wrote that around 1929 GM acquired a very well organized productive company at Germany called Opel and a little production shop at Britain name not mentioned around 1930?
Lovely video .thanks
It's like when Gordon Ramsay asks for the menu and says instead of having 30 rubbish cars how about 10 excellent ones ?
Sad that Triumph was almost ignored
I didn't hear them mentioned at all. I heard BMW and Ford but not Triumph. They even did a segment on DeLorean and that was an Irish venture.
Good program thanks its a shame about the incessant mental music right through it
After watching this, there is now a huge puddle of oil under my TV stand.
Ha Ha Ha , so true , sorry
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Very nice video, of course some classics are missed, was really hoping to see Triumph as I own a TR250
And what about Austin-Healey?...Certainly the Healey was, for it's time, the second-most beautiful British Sports Car!...I know, I owned one!
I have worked in Tanzania near the border with Burundi and Liberia and Madagascar and the favoured vehicle there were all Toyota Land Cruiser and PU trucks (also in South America). The whole time we were overseas I saw one (1) Land Rover and that had a Toyota motor, transmission and running gear installed by an East German mechanic and several Tanzanian army Landrover jeeps donated by the British gov't. They are no longer a dependable vehicle.
or as they say Land Rover to get you in but a Toyota Land Cruiser to get you home
the Bulldog looks like a fore runner of the Cybertruck....
Poor industrial relations between management and workers were responsible. This did not happen at Ford or Vauxhall where management actually engaged with the unions. Unfortunately, the industrial relations were combined with below par cars produced by BMC/BL
18:58 The Morris and Austin brands DID have a new model, launched in 1958, it was alternately branded as Austin 7 or Morris 850 but became widely known as the "Mini-Minor".
The Industrial Revolution started with textile manufacturing. Steam-powered motor drove the spinning and weaving machines that made fabric and clothing affordable for low income people. During the agrarian, feudal era most people were peasant farmers and clothing was very expensive. Now it is Aston-Martin, Rolls-Royce, and Bentley who are making automobiles for the super wealthy.
15:35 Range Rover V8 pictured (1970 - 2000) and 1970's MG, Triumph, TVR, Morgan V8 is Buick's V8 from 1951 in all cases...
@Make Me Believe - When the Brits first got that 215 V8, to them it was amazingly powerful and amazingly dependable/long lasting... they were used to 40 - 100 HP engines that lasted 25K miles...
In the USA, a version of that 215 was available turbocharged stock to anyone starting in 1962... massive torque and HP compared to the wimpy Daimler... th-cam.com/video/iieDedNEYuI/w-d-xo.html
Another version won F1 races,,,
Skip to 19:00 for a neat summary of what went wrong. First, look at the mass-market designs (not the TRs,Jags etc) of about '46-56. TH-cam is full of nostalgia for those vehicles which today look endearing, but at the time were underpowered Frumpy Dumpy compared to what others like the Germans and Americans were doing - and that was what counted. Britain took it's eye off the ball. Secondly, there was the deadly poisonous mix of workshy workers/clueless managers/shortsighted govt. Yes, folks, this was your "Greatest Generation" who won WW2 (well, with help). Excuses such as post-war austerity are blown away by the fact that most others (especially the Germans) bounced right back within a few years. Not Britain - who incredibly were still rationing 10 years after WW2 ended - govt. incompetance. Having said all that, it is sad that the world moved on to such a point that British national traits such as "decency" and "not trying too hard" went by the wayside as the world turned more nasty. Oh Well.
I'm frenchie donc je parle frenchie ( but I was an excellent school boy in 80's , my teacher who's learned English speak had à Mini Mayfair Black and fine golden teint stripes)
La production industrielle et artisanale de véhicules anglais m'a toujours fasciné par la diversité et le style 100/100 british !!!
Que ce soit Aston Martin,Bentley ,Bond ecce terra, je suis en extase devant de telles beautés mécaniques, ayant grandit avec des series et films anglais ( The avengers :Chapeau melon et bottes 👢 de cuir,mission cassé cou et Bond,James Bond avec ses Lotus , dont celle de "RIEN que pour vos yeux " est une version turbo !
No mention of Lagonda, although a fair bit about Aston Martin. They also made David Brown tractors, reckoned by many farmers as the "Rolls Royce" of agricultural vehicles.
Like Red Wrigglers , The Cadillac of Worms ??
Funny, I always thought Rolls Royce was the "Rolls Royce" of agricultural vehicles.
I love Lagondas, but you expect a full run-down of everything Brit in one hour???
ive got an A 4 audie from 1997 truly great car it goes throue mot every year the reason for this the bodywork is devoid of rust .its the best car ive ever had which were Fords ie rust buckets ttfn&ty
This video jumps all over the place, and may be very confusing to the average viewer.
Didn't notice that, but then I'm far from average.
Agreed, but then again the quality of British vehicles in general is less than average! Wuuuhahahahaha!!
Not an average viewer and I stopped watching because of it.
I am average and I am not confused.
Nah. Just figure every British company was owned by someone else. At least once. Or twice. Or...
I think that the MGR V8 was competitively priced. Its performance was nudging towards Porsche territory.
23:16 Judging from the last three letters on the registration, that's pretty prophetic 😉
No proper mention of Hillman, Humber, Sunbeam, Singer, Riley, Lagonda, Jowet, Ford (GB), Vauxhall, Rootes, etc etc.... Film clips and historical accounts all over the place... Some "history"...!
what about RELIANT ? Britains 2nd biggest car manufacture in the 1970 ' s
It’s an Australian series, so it basically only mentioned British vehicles made or assembled in Oz, plus ones imported to Oz. That’s also why it didn’t really mentioned Vauxhall & Ford as US manufacturers made their own vehicles in Oz
my neighbors here in the USA had a Hillman ! 1960s
Are yes and I remember the Hillman three times London too Sydney Australia what an awesome team. These activities just inspired car clubs around the world to just grow with family members, and champions and world champions would come. 😊😊😊
truly thoroughly well done!!!
Wut? No Rootes Group (Hillman, Humber, Singer, Sunbeam)? No Vauxhall?
Eddie Willers yes. What about Rootes?? ( but Vauxhall is General Motors)
@@jeffking4176 It wasn't at first
No need to Snipe about it, though they could Imp-rove by hiring a Hunter for information .. Maybe a beautiful woman with the body of a Gazelle wearing Stilettos in an Alpine cottage?
They were crap is why
@@jackkruese9929 Really? Humber crap?
Badges surviving on another car is a farce . I don't care about badges ...I want the product .
I agree, the idea of for example the MG badge on a Chinees car is ridiculous, verging on misleading. The other badge problem I have is when they take a regular cheap car, stick on a fancy badge, give it extra padding and call it a luxury car.
Rolls was keen on aeroplane development, a keenness not shared by Royce. After Rolls' death in a plane crash, the Rs of the iconic hood ornament became black-filled.
I decided to watch all of this, because at time mark 0:07 there was a Bristol, and I was interested to see what would be said about them.
Low and behold, nothing, zilch, zero.
If you’re bored this documentary won’t help
At a certain point in time (the seventies) british cars in general were even worse assembled than certain Fiat types and that says a lot...
Fiat and British cars both disappeared from USA as the dependability and reliability was horrible... and the price markup too high...
Here in mainland Europe too and Fiat still suffers from this horrible period some fourty years ago, but now they are good value for money and pretty dependable. My sister in law drives a Fiat 500 C and my brother an Alfa Romeo Guilletta (not imported in the US) and they are both very satisfied with the quality and reliability.
british cars of that era were appalling..and then the 80's ones combines the worst of the 70's and then added even more bland styling and shiny interior plastics...
when fiat stood for fix it again tony
@@yamahonkawazuki F.I.A.T :frustrated Italian attempting Technology ! fix it again tomo
I am awaiting delivery of my 2017 Bentley Flying Spur W12 S. Of course I have yet to order it since I am skint and have only £3 in the bank...
One day fella, depreciating Bentley’s would be a better shout than buying one new as new cars plummet after 2 + years as a general rule. 2005-2010 Bentley’s can be decently priced
i had sex in the back of one of those...But i needed the money.
Did the guy work for the BBC?
At least your money will be "worth" as much "tomorrow" as "today". That Bentley? Not so much. Nothing takes a "hit" in "resale value" like a "luxury car" and "British" vehicles in particularly "drop" in "resale value" like a fucking rock.
this is very true. even used, still a great car. plus you dont take the original depreciation hit. @@Ljjdjdjdjdjdj838
Great sign saying 100mph 100mpg £100 car. seems like we have gone backwards on those fronts.
No mention of Bristol (RIP MARCH 2020) TVR, Marcos, Noble, nor the fact that the majority of F1 and US carting vehicles are built in the UK. A bit sketchy but entertaining
The only Brit car i ever had was a Landrover and it was a most disasterous experience
The 1.9 litre 4 ,fuel use like V8,a guy from Victoria ,Rod Hadfield ,made conversion plates, to enable a local GM, product a 3.3- litre six cylinder to fit comfortably, 3 times performance, half fuel use,thus Holden (Chevrolet when exported Sth Africa etc)could change from 3 on the tree cars not 4WD to cast iron Celica 4 speed Box,extremely utilised .L/rover died out when Toyota L/cruisers ,Nissan patrols arrived, Defenders still used by Army
The triumph GT6 plus was awesome also! There was nothing that could handle like that car! And the straight 6 would go 110 mph! It was a 1969.
Alfa Romeo were building a 1900cc saloon in 1950 that could do 90 m.p.h .!
I owned first a 1969 and then 15 months later a 1970 GT6+. Absolutely the car that reminded the driver the most of a legal go-kart for the highway. Great handling but far from the most robust build quality. The inline 6 was only 2,,000cc's. These days I don't think any car maker builds a 2 litre engine with so many cylinders.
I don't think DeLorean can be considered a British car? John DeLorean was American, he just took advantage of the tax breaks from the British government and the incentives from Northern Ireland industry to have his car manufactured in Northern Ireland. With this logic you could call Toyota, Nissan, Honda & Daewoo British as they have factories in the UK?
Thank you Robbo you killed the British car industry
The British car industry is alive and well, and in many ways, leading the world with many of the finest marques. The manufacturing industry in Britain was murdered by socialism and more accurately by the nationalization of British Leyland. It took nearly 30 years to recover entirely. As demonstrated by Lada, governments make terrible cars.
The windscreen wipers on the Lada 1200 and more especially the 1500 sounded like the march of the Red Army.
Nice car but certainly drank the petrol.
Trade unions
They missed a few smaller makers of British cars,such as Hillman,Sunbeam,Vauxhall,Daimler,and AC.
Don’t forget Riley
50 mins, not a single ad.
Not monetised due to being full of stock and probably copyrighted footage
at 17:40 they say the freelander is the first landrover with hill decent control but my 99 discovery 2 has hill decent control?
cory le they said the first in that class to bring it down.
I’m not sure what your ‘99 D2 having HDC proves, as the Freelander was launched two years before your car was built.
I would say there were three industrial revolutions in regard to transport: the steam engine, the internal combustion engine, and then the electric motor with battery and computerization. For some reason the British were very good at steam technology, and then lost the ball at ICE. I noticed that when Cadillac the American car maker got going in the 1910's that tight tolerances and standardized parts were a very big deal. Henry Ford wanted to make high quality cheap cars at a high production rate. For some reason technical production in Britain lacks for tight strict standards in parts and engines. It seems they made good stuff in the luxury market, but didn't care to push high quality in low cost tier of the car market. Manufacturing in mass seems to be involving a lot of clunky shops with idiosyncratic manufacturing processes. It seems that if computer manufacturing was still a very British sort of thing, that PC buyers on a budget would be stuck with 286 PC IBM compatibles, and the Mayfair set would be buying overpriced PC's with multi-cores and gigabyte memory sticks. The old VW Beatle was quality built for the little guy from the very start. Is there a class mindset in British manufacturing, or is it that there a feudal/guild attitude to manufacturing that precludes tight tolerances and standardization. If I thought like a guild master I would make everything as home made and proprietary as possible. What do you think?
Engineering tolerances can be strictly controlled by employing Statistical Process Control methods, however, this method necessitates that machines, materials, personnel
and measuring instruments must all meet rigid standards. The Japanese employ this method covering auto manufacturing.
@@paulbroderick8438 ..
The biggest problem with British cars in general is that most of them had Lucas electrics. Horrid! Refused to modernize.
An old racetrack JOKE: Do you know why Brits drink room temperature brews? Their refrigerators had Lucas electrics too!
In 1994 I bought a brand new Mecedes C-class and horror - the brake servo was labelled LUCAS!
I could not believe that M-B could sink so low as to buy parts frpom Lucas. Fortunately it was dependable and I kept it for 12 years. The C32 AMG that I bought used 4 years old was NOT dependable, I kept it for 5 years and traded it for an Audi. Less than a year after it was apparently wrecked because it was deleted from the car registry. M-B's from the early 2000's had enormous quality problems, but in hindsight , a friend's Jaguar XJ12 is worse.
@@gummigubben I think Lucas had come good by the 90s after being forced to compete with Bosch, although they were gone by 1996
Another Lucas Prince of Darkness joke: Did you know that Lucas tried to build a computer? It failed because they couldn't make it leak oil or emit smoke.
very good british history
did anyone else catch that advert from the 20's...100mpg/100mph/100pnds..
if only lol.
100 MPH maybe... 100 pounds ($400) OK... 100 MPG sounds like wishful thinking... even with the royal gallon...
Thank you. A lot of interesting information.
But the bleedin' music is awful and unnecessary.
19:05 pissed off worker chucked stuff into the wire bin and the floor..
I saw that , typical English worker stuffing things up as they have done to GMH , putting dents in cars just because they where pissed off, Wednesday cars where better than Monday cars as an example
After watching this and all things considered, the British automobile industry seems to have a history of mismanagement, poor design and financial disasters. Germany, Italy and Sweden still set the standard.
I don't know who says to save as much money as possible when making cars for the U.K. but everytime I see one from Europe, I cringe. People think it's normal. When Europeans come to the U.K. and drive a car here, they are confused and call this layout dumb.
Rolls, Bentley, Jaguar, Aston Martin and Rover were all British brands well engineered and with exceptional build quality. One problem is the really fine Rover cars we're built in the 1950's and early 60's. Oh yeah, one other. The Morgan. Inept management and unbelievably short sighted trade unions killed a huge manufacturing juggernaut. Jaguar in particular was a bargain in the 1950's and 60's for it's workmanship and performance.
Italy have had their fair share of problems, I would say Japan sets the standards these days. Sweden only has one surviving mass manufacturer and its owned by the Chinese (and was owned by Ford before that).
Then Japan toppled them all
After their Pre WW2 engineering exploits, scholars still argue why Britain declined the way it did after WW2. No-one really knows. No major country simply gave up trying to be great the way the UK did.
I was disappointed. My old Austin Healey 3000 never got a mention. The 104 to the last one built the Healey went from race car to touring class with sensual lines and a cast iron 6 cyl that sounded like the base on a pipe organ. I miss her melodies on Highway One in California.
Should have kept it...
Ohhhh yeahhhhh, Austin Healey 3000 Four Wheel Sex Appeal
Where was the Humber Super Snipe? :)
I d buy the 60's "English Electric Lightening" and then a Hawker Hunter or the more nimble Gnat jet.
Great production. It was comprehensive. It would have been more complicated to go year by year. Better manufacturer by manufacturer with the mergers & buyouts. It made good sense to me. Yes, it was quite the history lesson.
There was very little about early cars in this video and what there was shown featured very few cars. Much of what is being said bears no relation to what is being shown.
interesting documentation, but the background music kills me...
Whats wrong with you? Some great toe-tappers on there. :D 41:20
Why was the UK car industry hurt so bad after the wars the USA had at least a 10 to 15 year super boom in car industry
My Miata is the poor man's Lotus Esprit
good vid. i wish they would have talked about the ac cobra or the sunbeam tiger.. those little cars with american grunt were fabulous beasts..some of the most iconic and sought after cars from the average garage gearhead to the top collectors..
>>>>>MY FAVORITE BRIT CLASSIC IS THE 1936 ASTON MARTIN "" ULSTER "",,FAMOUS AT ""BROOKLANDS"" RACES,,, CHEERIO MATE
Only the British would obey that Red Flag act.
Jay Russell
Huh? What do you base that on?
Hello everyone
FIRST CAME THE MECHANIC…
I knew why they called it the range discovery when you get it home you discover what is wrong with the car
missed the rootes group part
This very sad chapter is similar to US Chrysler-Dodge when it was Merged with Fiat SAP
sad for Fiat to buy Chrysler after even Mercedes Benz couldn't save it.
At 5,16. You called it the iconic" lemar race". What self respecting car fan doesnt know it is the le mans 24 hour.
The relient Robin not only a oxymoron but a thrill every turn ,single wheel in front wasn't sure if it would roll over going round corners see top gear episode on them don't hate on spelling grampa worked at Lucas and British Leyland
hey why no mini?????????
vipin acharya that is German
Mini's are german owned, but they are not german.
+andej it was originally British car company
the mini is german now
@@guitarfoundry Mini is British and will always be. Fuck your Hitler loving German self.
At 5:53 - an attempt was made.
no mention of reliant? poor show sir.
TVR Speed 12? Any TVR mention?
Not one mention of Vauxhall?
How many car makers are in Britain now?
We make cars for the Germans, Japanese and whoever owns Lotus this week.
Rolls Royce, Bentley, Land Rover, Range Rover, Jaguar, Mini all iconic British cars, are foreign owned and the really sad part is that nobody gives a toss.
We don't make British cars anymore.
Then again, we don't make anything anymore.
BMC and Leyland made cars all over the world, Australia, South Africa, Brazil, Spain, Belgium, Italy. Many British car were styled by italians. The Mini was engineered by issigonis who as Greek. Companies based in the UK pay UK tax, employ UK workers and they have UK heritage. Who owns it doesn't make that much difference.
Was the Triumph Acclaim more British than the new Mini? Is the Ford Cortina American or British?
Rover used an American engine.
What makes a car British?
WEll'l what Britain made was never much good in the first place i think in all honesty there.
The British car industry, where cars drive everywhere, has disappeared with the Harry Potter movies.
Today Bentley is more Germany than Volkswagen itself.... What a destination 🤣
An ok doco, but disjointed and with huge gaps.
The mini only mentioned in passing..? C'mon.
Class distinction ?
The world needs an App PLEASE to kill the stupid incessant music on y these great documentary's
Very disjointed and the pictures are completely out of synch with the story - showing 1980s cars when talking about the 1930s for example.
Much to the oint, well done. But since this was made Morgan was bought by the Italians, probably a good thing.
Things chane, Stalin had Rolls Royce but Breznew had a few Mercedes Benz 600 cars. A Lada for Putin I hope.
Sorry but I could not keep up with the switching between times and stories.
You forgot Mario andretti
England first thing I think of is Jaguar
I'm going to go way out on a limb and say the the title "The History of German Cars" is misleading.
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Rob, you mean "Soon to be German cars and worker's jobs"?
Served the union and unionized workers right!!!
1:10 "the best of british" british leyland...
The secret weapon of mass destruction with Lucas fuses
Unions will, sooner or later, always become a detriment to the workers livelihood.....
but not as detrimental as the bosses...unions started because they were sending kids down mines and mums breast feeding babies at the loom, and men working in the most dangerous and horrible conditions imaginable.
true. that was then this is now. things have changed. some for the better, some well, not so much@@guitarfoundry
In my experience unions have done nothing except take money from me and delivered nothing in return.
Half you twits who feel it fashionable to bash liberals, unions and progressive movements haven't a clue about the real world. Most of you march in lockstep with your fathers political views and parrot them without ever understanding that British trade unions are and were about as piss poor examples as one could find. The fact is that reputable unions representing highly skilled workers provide excellent, expert quality work but I suppose you'd rather some nitwit paid peanuts and over worked to the point of causing a fatal accident would be your choice to weld the piping in a nuclear power plant because no way management wouldn't be just as concerned for the safety and earning power of that fine craftsman. Fact is once the criminal element is rooted out of any compromised union the quality and productivity are unequalled by anything management could muster. Unions may comprise a smaller percentage of workers now than in the past but for skilled trades where real competent expertise is demanded the dedication of a union workforce is what gets the job done to the highest possible standard. As for progressives, they are the reason we are not stuck wearing the swim wear of 1910 on the beach. Why society evolves and why any of us besides upper corporate management has any form of health care at all. Most CEO's are not as smart as Henry Ford once was with the foresight to organise his factories and workers to a standard where they could be customers of the cars they built. You should get a different handle and stop showing your divisive ignorance for the world to see.
@@davescroggins895 Sure, because you never give a second thought to what unions accomplish beyond what you likely view as bloated pay and benefits for their rank and file. Try considering the safety of a nuclear plant if only management dictated safety standards, quality of work, expertise of workers etc. If you think management of corporations is universally benevolent with the foresight to pay appropriately for the most skilled tradesmen then obviously you would not understand the methods unions develop to train their highly skilled and safe rank and file.
Luckily enough Morris marinas all came with a complimentary bus timetable,,
And bullseye's on the roof for pianos.