The downward spiral was not giving us enough milestone events, please EA give us more milestone events so we can spend more money! I don’t want updates!
Imagen a milestone event yah yah one that fix everything wrong on apex gonna laugh when all the money spent on a account worth 18k get no more as apex pulls away a plug it's been nice Takeing you money but we not gonna have another season 😂 as we don't make enough money with 500k people left we can't even pay electronic bill
people went insane over the tap strafe changes on twitter and look how quickly that got changed, maybe if people kept the same energy for when apex did their lazy predatorial shit like heirloom recolours and milestone events we wouldn't be at this point
only the cringe creators care and theres - content for this game because they contastly just wanna "talk about apex's problem" or "apex's biggest downfall" instead opf jkust playing and enjoying the game they made, youre not the creator lil bro
Absolutely right, all it takes is for streamers like Faide and the like to do the same as HisWattson, then respawns will change their policies very quickly or just close the game without foreplay.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Apex is shut down or put into maintenance mode in 2025. EA has a history of axing games that miss financial goals (Battlefront 2, BF2042, Anthem), and Apex would need a No Mans Sky or Cyberpunk-level comeback to turn things around. I have zero faith in Respawn to pull off a comeback before the grim rEAper comes.
Everything you said is straight facts. This game is beyone done for unless they stop messing around and try to make a cyberpunk level comeback. They need to start ACTUALLY giving us content, and maybe uncancell the Singleplayer PVE Apex Legends game they got rid of. I bet people would buy it, because apex feels like one of those games that was supposed to have a singleplayer at one point. Oh and they need to either get rid of milestone events, or make them far more worth it. The bloodhound recolor event was a good step in the right direction, it gave us two heirlooms. I personallly was able to get it for free, and it was great. Oh and more LTMS/Things to do, The Grand Soire collection event was a great example. They never did anything like it again.
Biggest mistake was to trust EA and go to them for future project. If you love game development NEVER NEVER go to EA. They will crush your dreams in a heartbeat!
well you along with the creators for the Apex content dont help at all only being negative when theyre actually trying to work on characvter abilities for once and make them actually part of the game i can see the righ outlook that these creators like grrt dont see cause they only play pub bot lobbies along with jerk for skins
I am a newish casual player Every pub you are trounced by a mirage that could be a pred Every ltm is pounded by someone who is playing these games 24/7 It is soul destroying to play
Yeah really difficult for newer players to get into the game and stick with it nowadays and I don't blame them. Hell, if you came in a few seasons ago you would've been getting stomped by horizon players instead.
Sometimes when I play mixtape I get really easy lobbies, like these guys cannot even shoot back, it is more fair to do melee only and shoot at them. If skill based matchmaking was there, this wouldn’t be possible, the game isn’t fair. So what’s happening? Engagement Optimised Matchmaking, if you win a game then the game will make you artificially lose games and then win to keep you psychologically engaged. How do they make you lose? Put you up against significantly better players and I’ve been of the other side where it essentially give you a free win. It is really toxic and the game doesn’t feel real. Did I perform well or was it handed to me? Did I play bad or is my opponent out of my league entirely? Am I even getting better, well you’d never know. You won’t see it in game where you start winning more no, because some games are given to you for free and some you are meant to lose.
@@mastercharacterunless you’re playing on OCE servers. Then you can have a new account, terrible to nonexistent kd, 20 games and 20 fat losses under your belt, and mixtape will still match you with the variety of skill from your level to Diamond or Pred players. And the “new players” at your skill level don’t exist on these dead and dying servers, so you get exclusively matched with the guys that stomp mixtape lobbies and put them off the game. I know this shit happens cause there’s always 2 or so accounts under level 20 in my masters lobbies 💀
So they're whining about not making as much money as they should but we're only able to play 5 different modes in 2025 and they're all miserable to play? There's no way this company is this clueless lol
Even fortnight is getting more attention now😭🙈 then apex Mario brothers just became top level of gaming😂 and Uno cards top god 1st place for the past 9 months 😂
@@leandroferreira1832 bruh it’s crazy. Fortnite is out here killing shit. My step son and I play together and we ALWAYS have so much fun playing the game because there’s a ton of modes to play. They’re all so creative too. It’s honestly a top 3 online game out right now. Epic know what to do
A mockery of the only players left playing this game. Sweats that can't stop blowing whole checks. Doesn't help the sponsored creators most likely get reimbursed for buying and flexing the skins.
One of the main reasons EA has been forcing respawn to over monetize apex is that EA sports and EA games are now separate entities and EA games profit margins can't be skewed by FIFA's profits therefor EA games needed ways to keep up to these profit margins of the sports game (Which is literally impossible because the sports game players will gobble up anything)
Devastating to see Apex in such terrible state, it has so much potential to be one of the GOATS but they rather milk it for the short term instead of looking at the bigger picture.
It's been 2 years since I played Apex and I was hoping they would change for the better. Sounds like I should play it again before it dies this year the way things are carrying on
and thats coming from a day1 player who never spent money on the game and just got my first heirloom(on pc) TODAY. this game is ass, totally unfun and absolutely not worth playing anymore. LET IT DIE
Their monetization model is just so predatory. Like they opt in for the super high price options and it’s a huge turn off. Why are collection events hundreds of dollars? If everyone could get the whole event for like $40 or something they’d be bought up like crazy and a higher amount of people would be happy. I don’t spend money on them cause the barrier to entry for the expensive stuff is just too much. Content helps obviously but they’ll never get the returns they want when it’s hundreds of dollars to get these cool skins. Most players like myself don’t buy a single pack atp cause why would we? It’s a drop in the bucket
EA didnt realize how in love with the lore of Apex players were. How much we valued heirlooms, how they emphasized each Legend's story, how moving and captivating the Stories from the Outlands were. People mained Legends for the character, not just their abilities. Universal heirlooms were a mistake. This is when the game lost it's soul. The high regard people had for their Legend's very personal story item was ripped away. All just fluff now. So you seek to milk skins for weapons and Legends, but dont put the care you need to into these skins. They were lackluster at best. Give your artists room to shine. Dont just puke out mediocre skin after mediocre skin make them BEAUTIFUL. STRIKING. Focus on unique abilities and sound effects and SENSATIONS. Apex lost its marvel, which was in the artistry, and thats what lost the players. Now theyre looking at a sell out which didnt sell.
Apex really use to feel like something special. I fell in love with loba’s lore and her massive… personality. Now her and revenant’s rivalry has fizzled out. And none of the other legends have respect for her
I thought it was because they split the 2 game studios at Ea, all the sports games carrying all the net worth on one side, then you got Ea entertainment with battlefields the sims and apex so the paradigm got completely shifted when they split the revenue structure
It’s insane how all the trailers are just cosmetics but if you go and play the game pubs is the most fun it’s ever been, we got season zero weapons, THREE NEW WEAPONS, new mods and the new final fantasy gun skills, ALL THAT AND THEY ONLY SHOW GOD DAMN COSMETICS 😂
EPG, Buster Sword, Auto Charge rifle..... Enough people utterly hate them that they are negatively impacting player numbers. I know people that have left and not come back. Those weapons where the final straw.
I played Apex back in the day when respawn wasnt on EA's leash 24/7. Left and came back a couple years ago just to get destroyed by people that Exclusively play apex. It was so hard to just stay alive let alone get a kill. Its no wonder new players never come back, the game is chalk full of sweaty tryhards. Its sad because when Apex first came out it was such a new and exciting experience. Now its just a hollow shell filled with EA's greed.
With leaks of cosmetics please keep in mind, they aren't stored in the game files the same way (so they're easier/possible to datamine; whereas game content is uploaded in a different way/time/place within the game files so they are often harder/impossible to datamine/leak) And with the leaks of the new cosmetics there were also leaks/rumors about an emp grenade and legend bans for next series of ALGS (which could make those matches a lot more fun to spectate)
How would bans even work when it’s 20 teams? Like maybe each team votes for 2 heroes and the highest % get banned? Would be nice. I would love for them to instead add max 1 legend per role instead in both ranked and ALGS
@@xaultimateax Highest percent would win but look up ranked choice voting, you'll probably find something better than my explanation, it could work too. Each team ranks 3-5 legends (from 1 to 3-5), if any legend is rank 1 for more than X% of teams (commonly 50%, so 10 or more teams) then they are banned. If there's not a majority then the legend that received the least votes is removed from consideration and any vote for that legend goes to that team's rank 2 legend and it's recounted, if there's still not a majority the process repeats until a legend has a majority of votes. This would all be automated/fast (in the background) the teams would just select their legends and the system would do the math and spit out the ban Edit: P.s. I think a role lock would be terrible, generally the idea is to work at improving diversity of comp viability (it makes for more entertaining spectating). Role lock stifles the game unnecessarily. A legend ban would fix a lot of the issues with OP legends, they could have 2-3 legend bans to start (maybe increasing it if the roster size ever justifies it); and, maybe more importantly, any op characters/classes are only temporary (they want to be able to move that OP-ness around to keep the game fun/different/exciting; again, the legend ban allows competitive Apex to be shielded from that while the more casual player base can enjoy the chaos)
@ I agree that legend ban would be preferable over role lock, but I doubt they would ever implement a ban system in ranked. Similar as to how they will never implement drop zones. Role lock would not be as disruptive when it comes to startup time and would result in a lot of diversity by itself when it comes to lobbies. Also would fix the annoying support meta without having to nerf each and every legend. Lifeline, newcastle and mirage are fine if you are limited to one of those per taem
@@xaultimateax I don't imagine it'd be that disruptive, 30 seconds limit (tops) and everyone has their list submitted, the calculations would only take a few seconds (if that). They could most definitely implement it in ranked. Though, I doubt they'd ever implement something like this for ALL of ranked, I imagine it'd start at Diamond, maybe Plat Just because they haven't implemented drops in ranked (it'd be a lot harder than in ALGS, they have a special draft ahead of the matches and that would be a lot harder to work into Ranked) doesn't mean they can't/won't. They could just randomize poi selection; one group with 5 secs per team to select (you don't pick, it's auto selected) would be 100 secs, 2 groups (randomly assign each team A or B, the maps' POIs split into group A or B and each group picks concurrently) could bring the time down to 50 secs. Definitely reasonable/practical/possible. Again, I don't think this would be applied to ALL of ranked, just the higher ELOs I'm pretty sure they don't want/need to fix the support meta either. It's looking like Assault class is getting a makeover next, and while I'd be surprised if they don't tweak/lower Support's power a bit, I think Assault will be tailored to better counter Support (which would act as an indirect nerf) Role locks were terrible for OW and I, personally, feel like it's a cop out method of balancing; and I'm pretty sure you can't convince me that restricting character selection (role lock) can improve diversity, they seem fairly diametrically opposed (mutually exclusive) to me
This has gotta be the worst season in apex history it has been such a long season we’ve got 20 days left and there is nothing to grind for at all. It’s so frustrating. I’ve played this game weekly For 5 years and it’s the first time I’ve just stopped playing. There is nothing to grind for besides ranked and even ranked has so many issues.
At first, i didnt mind that they brought back Herizons Heirloom. Then i got a gun and character skins that werent even apart of the event. So now instead of the "event" being one out of 24 items, its now one out of 200ish items.
@xaultimateax last I checked was before the new event came out. Not sure if you can still buy the dressed to kill packs. But it wasn't a glitch. They had all 24 original cosmetics from the event, plus loads of character and weapon skins from other events.
crazy cause im not tapped into this online talk about apex at all, never been... but over the past few months i definitely felt a change in the attitude of the ppl in my lobbies etc, seems like ppl stopped having fun and its just sweatiness and a bunch of expensive items. i been playing it less and less, just crazy how ppl like me that arent even tapped in to the online discussion or up to date with apex issues, even we been feeling the energy is changing in the game
the fact i dont even play apex and see videos saying this nonstop, do none of the producers or devs or anyone on the team at all look at the internet ever 😭
Im from South Africa and when exotic shards came out I just groaned because I knew it was the beginning of the end. to buy 50 exotic shards for 1 of the katar sets its over 700 rand which for our currency is a shit ton to blow on a couple of pixels in a game. Thats almost a weeks worth of food which just blows my mind. As if thats fckn worth it. You had a good run Apex
its been on this slippery slope its gained too much speed to stop lol. I honestly noticed it when more skins were released every other week and then past event recolors were their next idea. Instead of adding actual content in gameplay or gamemodes they went the worse route.
I have more fun in ranked than I do in pubs 😂 the chaos of the final 2 circles gives such an adrenaline rush after coming home from work 😂 hit diamond today lol
Its crazy how the way they were before making money to have their highest earnings and the moment they didnt meet expectation they started monetizing in a shitty way and started wondering why no one is spending as much before, its like almost they should go back to the way before to keep making money lmfao.
I'll be honest, it felt kind of empty up until recently. But this past week with all the relic weapons and now the sword, has actually made pubs really fun. Or maybe that's just me getting lucky with the matchmaking D:
Pudding skins with special select animations behind a half milestone events really lost me skins that I used to pay 20 bucks for because I like the aspect of cool select animations. I now have to drop 62 150 to try to get the skin.
"Let's give our players something LITERALLY NO ONE asked for..... a gernade recolor!!😑 Yea u heard us right get your wallets ready Cuz for ONLY the LOW LOW price of $160 you can be SOOO COOL & have your gernade be a different color for those 2 seconds Be4 u throw it!!!"🤦♂️💯.... NOW lets see WHO are tthe br@!n d3@ds that ACTUALLY buy it😑💯💯💯.... Cuz ya'll ARE the ACTUAL problem you just feed into EVERYTHING they wanna OVER charge us for..
Its paradogic. Apex is losing players and money, and they want to make new cosmetics to attract new player but since they are short on money, they use predatory gambling and recolors to attract them. But because they only offer recolors and gambling they lose even more playerbase and money so the cycle repeats.
The article you show is in August 2023 and your chart shows the most successful time/season was Feb/S16, Aug (on your chart) is in the middle of a massive decline.. which they are talking about in the article, in August
It's insane that you've been able to keep up even with the decline of Apex, bro. I feel you should switch content, especially with the rapid decline of Apex. 😭 love yer content ❤
I’m so sad about where this game has gone - I don’t even feel the love of the characters personalities, nor do I feel like there is a real story to follow anymore. I won’t give up on apex but I won’t spend hundreds to get skins.
Another reason is just a lack of game modes. i got back from school wanting to play some pubs but it was just a cycle of getting trampled by either an epg, buster sword, or pulse blade. Can we not at least have regular pubs always in the game??
I feel for the Developer that wanted to boost the Skirmisher Class it’s seems all his/her ideas were getting ignored because that class never got new abilities for so long that’s an entire class ignored for several seasons it’s terrible I’ve never seen an entire class in a gun game ignored like image a class of weapons that never get buffed for several seasons people would stop picking them up same thing that happened to the skirmisher class… it’s like every other class had changes to there abilities why is this class so hard..?
2:03 This is the dirtiest and the most humiliating thing I've ever seen in a online game. EA shouldn't be allowed to touch anything related to video games. Lootboxes and gambling should be banned worldwide.
I just re-downloaded apex after quitting in April for a year to see what's been going on...Its a damn shame what this game has turned into. From the battle pass changes and the crashes, packet burst and hackers. Idk how most keep playing.(No toxic bs)
Honestly as a community we as a community should stop giving them money, until they make the game better an worth actually playing and not a money grab game. Honestly EA just knows how to ruin games.
They game is so interesting i grinded like 4 seasons had alot of fun but this game in particular has the worst case of repetition after you get gud enough theres no where to go you get bored never pick it up
I just got back at the game and wtf is going on with loba and support characters? If you got three supports on your team its basically a win but if you got only one is game over
Games not making financial expectations. Well games not meeting consumer expectations. Don't they know this dynamic, I think they ignore it because they know its not fixable at this point.
Well deserved tbh Starving the fans While pleasing every single pros desire I felt my heart drop to see what state the game is in currently This game could've became something much better with they stopped focusing on skins and actually focused on quality of life and game improvements
The real downward spiral is them not listening to their players complaints and opinions like buff every character class or keep makin legend specific heirlooms even the events that are jus money hungry and peopl jus spend $ jus to spend it at this point
They could have done something cool like release picking a character more than once per team for things like doubles. Instead we got 142 skins no one wanted
What made me stop playing is that you can’t enjoy the game anymore as a casual. Every lobby is really sweaty, I don’t have fun anymore playing this game.
A lot of people here probably dont know about EA with Fifa and FC, they are the greediest company in the history of gaming effectively promote gambling to children.
I’m never going to understand why they don’t introduce ads into the game. And I don’t mean those distracting ads; I mean ones that are really integrated into the game, making it feel like big corporations are financing the Apex Games as part of the story. For example, before you drop, you always see the Apex logo-why not change that to something like Coca-Cola, with the announcer saying, “These games are sponsored by the Coca-Cola Company”? There are also plenty of screens inside the game while you play -why not use those as ad space too?
Idea: Could they do what fortnite did Making a no ability mode for new players overwhelmed by abilities. It can add whatever mythic weapons or fun perk boxes to make it for just fun.
EA is like you know what will bring players back??? Overpriced skins. Works 100% of the time. I have mate a couple hours into apex since marvel rivals came out. Apex died when they introduced all these relics and continued pushing cosmetics instead of actual game updates to fix all the broken stuff. I’ll be surprised if it makes it out of 2025. If they want player engagement and money, make it to where you play 10 hrs a week and you get a discount on skins or mythicals. Nobody is going to shell out money on a dying game that barely nobody plays anymore. I went from day 1 playing everyday after work to deciding to go to bed early instead of opening this game. It’s sad honestly but goes to show the only path they had laid out was a monetized one.
The problem whit games now a days. is not for everybody. It’s for the rich, stupid people. That have too much unnecessary money to waste compared to the past that is more affordable. In Laymans terms greed, too much greed, not even the pot of greed the card of Yu-Gi-Oh is not that greedy
To be fair I stopped spending money on apex around season 19 when apex started going to hell like I spent so much on this game but if it's gonna die like what is the point of spending more ?
Genuinely haven’t played in a few years, I was so into apex it had so much going for it, with every decision they made it just made me not wanna play more and more
MAYBE if they actually gave a shit about fixing the issues in the game, like Matchmaking, the ranked system not being rewarding to play, movement staleness, it's just not a fun game anymore. they need something refreshing instead of trying to patch things with shitty LTMs and cosmetics.
The downward spiral was not giving us enough milestone events, please EA give us more milestone events so we can spend more money! I don’t want updates!
Hopefully next season is a milestone battle pass
and sub-milestones that unlock the regular milestone as well
This is all we want
Imagen a milestone event yah yah one that fix everything wrong on apex gonna laugh when all the money spent on a account worth 18k get no more as apex pulls away a plug it's been nice Takeing you money but we not gonna have another season 😂 as we don't make enough money with 500k people left we can't even pay electronic bill
At this point, put a pay wall on the menu screen. 2$ per play. HAHAHA
Never seen a game so blatant fucked over by its producers
You obviously haven't followed EA's history very closely then.
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@@Person01234facts they ruined my favorite games, battlefield and titanfall/apex
publisher*
"Not making as much money as it should" aaaaaaand who's fault is that EA?
EA, probably:
"Should we add worthwhile content or make reloads cost money?"
"The second one, clearly"
3 billion in revenue last year from apex alone btw
@@vertipop Awesome, is any of that going into the game to improve its overall quality of life gameplay?
@ LMAO
@@damirisdamirdefinitely not
people went insane over the tap strafe changes on twitter and look how quickly that got changed, maybe if people kept the same energy for when apex did their lazy predatorial shit like heirloom recolours and milestone events we wouldn't be at this point
If it wasn’t EA i’d agree.
only the cringe creators care and theres - content for this game because they contastly just wanna "talk about apex's problem" or "apex's biggest downfall" instead opf jkust playing and enjoying the game they made, youre not the creator lil bro
Absolutely right, all it takes is for streamers like Faide and the like to do the same as HisWattson, then respawns will change their policies very quickly or just close the game without foreplay.
@@zyorus8092 yeah dummy, not adressing the problems and keep playing with a low state game is a bright idea lmao these sheeps are so funny
@@zyorus8092 You can't, playing apex isn't enjoyable to long term players anymore due to the lack of content added to the game, hope this helps 👍
I wouldn’t be surprised if Apex is shut down or put into maintenance mode in 2025. EA has a history of axing games that miss financial goals (Battlefront 2, BF2042, Anthem), and Apex would need a No Mans Sky or Cyberpunk-level comeback to turn things around. I have zero faith in Respawn to pull off a comeback before the grim rEAper comes.
Everything you said is straight facts. This game is beyone done for unless they stop messing around and try to make a cyberpunk level comeback. They need to start ACTUALLY giving us content, and maybe uncancell the Singleplayer PVE Apex Legends game they got rid of. I bet people would buy it, because apex feels like one of those games that was supposed to have a singleplayer at one point. Oh and they need to either get rid of milestone events, or make them far more worth it. The bloodhound recolor event was a good step in the right direction, it gave us two heirlooms. I personallly was able to get it for free, and it was great. Oh and more LTMS/Things to do, The Grand Soire collection event was a great example. They never did anything like it again.
@@jcgamer1650bring back Arenas
Apex still has 18 million monthly players. You likely don't know this because content creators are obsessed about Steam players only.
Biggest mistake was to trust EA and go to them for future project. If you love game development NEVER NEVER go to EA. They will crush your dreams in a heartbeat!
well you along with the creators for the Apex content dont help at all only being negative when theyre actually trying to work on characvter abilities for once and make them actually part of the game i can see the righ outlook that these creators like grrt dont see cause they only play pub bot lobbies along with jerk for skins
I am a newish casual player
Every pub you are trounced by a mirage that could be a pred
Every ltm is pounded by someone who is playing these games 24/7
It is soul destroying to play
Yeah really difficult for newer players to get into the game and stick with it nowadays and I don't blame them. Hell, if you came in a few seasons ago you would've been getting stomped by horizon players instead.
@@DenniDownBad Revenant* horizon wasn't op a few seasons ago
Play mixtape, it’s great for casuals
Sometimes when I play mixtape I get really easy lobbies, like these guys cannot even shoot back, it is more fair to do melee only and shoot at them. If skill based matchmaking was there, this wouldn’t be possible, the game isn’t fair. So what’s happening?
Engagement Optimised Matchmaking, if you win a game then the game will make you artificially lose games and then win to keep you psychologically engaged. How do they make you lose? Put you up against significantly better players and I’ve been of the other side where it essentially give you a free win.
It is really toxic and the game doesn’t feel real. Did I perform well or was it handed to me? Did I play bad or is my opponent out of my league entirely? Am I even getting better, well you’d never know. You won’t see it in game where you start winning more no, because some games are given to you for free and some you are meant to lose.
@@mastercharacterunless you’re playing on OCE servers. Then you can have a new account, terrible to nonexistent kd, 20 games and 20 fat losses under your belt, and mixtape will still match you with the variety of skill from your level to Diamond or Pred players. And the “new players” at your skill level don’t exist on these dead and dying servers, so you get exclusively matched with the guys that stomp mixtape lobbies and put them off the game. I know this shit happens cause there’s always 2 or so accounts under level 20 in my masters lobbies 💀
So they're whining about not making as much money as they should but we're only able to play 5 different modes in 2025 and they're all miserable to play? There's no way this company is this clueless lol
Even fortnight is getting more attention now😭🙈 then apex Mario brothers just became top level of gaming😂 and Uno cards top god 1st place for the past 9 months 😂
@@leandroferreira1832 bruh it’s crazy. Fortnite is out here killing shit. My step son and I play together and we ALWAYS have so much fun playing the game because there’s a ton of modes to play. They’re all so creative too. It’s honestly a top 3 online game out right now. Epic know what to do
@@leandroferreira1832 the whole time I’m playing that game I’m like “that’s so cool why doesn’t Apex do this” 😂
This relic crap now people with swords that take no damage can't stand this season
This feels like the end of the road, they are trying to squeeze every penny from the players left and then left them on the dust.
"Just one more collection event bro, and apex is going to make a comeback, they just want 20$ skins and apex packs. I promise, just one more"
Huh?
A mockery of the only players left playing this game. Sweats that can't stop blowing whole checks. Doesn't help the sponsored creators most likely get reimbursed for buying and flexing the skins.
$ goes before the number, not after. $20 ✅ 20$ ❌🙅
One of the main reasons EA has been forcing respawn to over monetize apex is that EA sports and EA games are now separate entities and EA games profit margins can't be skewed by FIFA's profits therefor EA games needed ways to keep up to these profit margins of the sports game (Which is literally impossible because the sports game players will gobble up anything)
We can’t even blame sports game players that’s literally all they have n ea has full monopoly
@@QWONIE NBA literally strayed away from EA like the plague, I'm pretty sure any other league has the money to make their own spin on their titles.
Devastating to see Apex in such terrible state, it has so much potential to be one of the GOATS but they rather milk it for the short term instead of looking at the bigger picture.
Ea just being Ea
genuinly don't understand how some of these whale money players drop thousand's of dollars on skins in a FIRST PERSON game
It's been 2 years since I played Apex and I was hoping they would change for the better. Sounds like I should play it again before it dies this year the way things are carrying on
nah dont play, its absolutely soul sucking and not fun...
and thats coming from a day1 player who never spent money on the game and just got my first heirloom(on pc) TODAY. this game is ass, totally unfun and absolutely not worth playing anymore. LET IT DIE
Their monetization model is just so predatory. Like they opt in for the super high price options and it’s a huge turn off. Why are collection events hundreds of dollars? If everyone could get the whole event for like $40 or something they’d be bought up like crazy and a higher amount of people would be happy. I don’t spend money on them cause the barrier to entry for the expensive stuff is just too much. Content helps obviously but they’ll never get the returns they want when it’s hundreds of dollars to get these cool skins. Most players like myself don’t buy a single pack atp cause why would we? It’s a drop in the bucket
If you don't have a casual player base you farm the whales.
Competitive Apex sucked the fun out of the game. There's nothing but whales left
EA didnt realize how in love with the lore of Apex players were. How much we valued heirlooms, how they emphasized each Legend's story, how moving and captivating the Stories from the Outlands were. People mained Legends for the character, not just their abilities. Universal heirlooms were a mistake. This is when the game lost it's soul. The high regard people had for their Legend's very personal story item was ripped away. All just fluff now. So you seek to milk skins for weapons and Legends, but dont put the care you need to into these skins. They were lackluster at best. Give your artists room to shine. Dont just puke out mediocre skin after mediocre skin make them BEAUTIFUL. STRIKING. Focus on unique abilities and sound effects and SENSATIONS.
Apex lost its marvel, which was in the artistry, and thats what lost the players. Now theyre looking at a sell out which didnt sell.
Apex really use to feel like something special. I fell in love with loba’s lore and her massive… personality. Now her and revenant’s rivalry has fizzled out. And none of the other legends have respect for her
I thought it was because they split the 2 game studios at Ea, all the sports games carrying all the net worth on one side, then you got Ea entertainment with battlefields the sims and apex so the paradigm got completely shifted when they split the revenue structure
It’s insane how all the trailers are just cosmetics but if you go and play the game pubs is the most fun it’s ever been, we got season zero weapons, THREE NEW WEAPONS, new mods and the new final fantasy gun skills, ALL THAT AND THEY ONLY SHOW GOD DAMN COSMETICS 😂
EPG, Buster Sword, Auto Charge rifle..... Enough people utterly hate them that they are negatively impacting player numbers. I know people that have left and not come back. Those weapons where the final straw.
I played Apex back in the day when respawn wasnt on EA's leash 24/7. Left and came back a couple years ago just to get destroyed by people that Exclusively play apex. It was so hard to just stay alive let alone get a kill. Its no wonder new players never come back, the game is chalk full of sweaty tryhards. Its sad because when Apex first came out it was such a new and exciting experience. Now its just a hollow shell filled with EA's greed.
With leaks of cosmetics please keep in mind, they aren't stored in the game files the same way (so they're easier/possible to datamine; whereas game content is uploaded in a different way/time/place within the game files so they are often harder/impossible to datamine/leak)
And with the leaks of the new cosmetics there were also leaks/rumors about an emp grenade and legend bans for next series of ALGS (which could make those matches a lot more fun to spectate)
How would bans even work when it’s 20 teams? Like maybe each team votes for 2 heroes and the highest % get banned? Would be nice. I would love for them to instead add max 1 legend per role instead in both ranked and ALGS
@@xaultimateax Highest percent would win but look up ranked choice voting, you'll probably find something better than my explanation, it could work too.
Each team ranks 3-5 legends (from 1 to 3-5), if any legend is rank 1 for more than X% of teams (commonly 50%, so 10 or more teams) then they are banned. If there's not a majority then the legend that received the least votes is removed from consideration and any vote for that legend goes to that team's rank 2 legend and it's recounted, if there's still not a majority the process repeats until a legend has a majority of votes. This would all be automated/fast (in the background) the teams would just select their legends and the system would do the math and spit out the ban
Edit: P.s. I think a role lock would be terrible, generally the idea is to work at improving diversity of comp viability (it makes for more entertaining spectating). Role lock stifles the game unnecessarily. A legend ban would fix a lot of the issues with OP legends, they could have 2-3 legend bans to start (maybe increasing it if the roster size ever justifies it); and, maybe more importantly, any op characters/classes are only temporary (they want to be able to move that OP-ness around to keep the game fun/different/exciting; again, the legend ban allows competitive Apex to be shielded from that while the more casual player base can enjoy the chaos)
@ I agree that legend ban would be preferable over role lock, but I doubt they would ever implement a ban system in ranked. Similar as to how they will never implement drop zones. Role lock would not be as disruptive when it comes to startup time and would result in a lot of diversity by itself when it comes to lobbies. Also would fix the annoying support meta without having to nerf each and every legend. Lifeline, newcastle and mirage are fine if you are limited to one of those per taem
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I don't imagine it'd be that disruptive, 30 seconds limit (tops) and everyone has their list submitted, the calculations would only take a few seconds (if that). They could most definitely implement it in ranked. Though, I doubt they'd ever implement something like this for ALL of ranked, I imagine it'd start at Diamond, maybe Plat
Just because they haven't implemented drops in ranked (it'd be a lot harder than in ALGS, they have a special draft ahead of the matches and that would be a lot harder to work into Ranked) doesn't mean they can't/won't. They could just randomize poi selection; one group with 5 secs per team to select (you don't pick, it's auto selected) would be 100 secs, 2 groups (randomly assign each team A or B, the maps' POIs split into group A or B and each group picks concurrently) could bring the time down to 50 secs. Definitely reasonable/practical/possible. Again, I don't think this would be applied to ALL of ranked, just the higher ELOs
I'm pretty sure they don't want/need to fix the support meta either. It's looking like Assault class is getting a makeover next, and while I'd be surprised if they don't tweak/lower Support's power a bit, I think Assault will be tailored to better counter Support (which would act as an indirect nerf)
Role locks were terrible for OW and I, personally, feel like it's a cop out method of balancing; and I'm pretty sure you can't convince me that restricting character selection (role lock) can improve diversity, they seem fairly diametrically opposed (mutually exclusive) to me
Truly sad i love this game and to tell the truth it's my favourite game but the greed of EA killed the game.Let this be a lesson of other game dev's😢
Same brother. Same 😢
This has gotta be the worst season in apex history it has been such a long season we’ve got 20 days left and there is nothing to grind for at all. It’s so frustrating. I’ve played this game weekly
For 5 years and it’s the first time I’ve just stopped playing. There is nothing to grind for besides ranked and even ranked has so many issues.
At first, i didnt mind that they brought back Herizons Heirloom. Then i got a gun and character skins that werent even apart of the event. So now instead of the "event" being one out of 24 items, its now one out of 200ish items.
Thats a bug. It should show max 24 items if yours is not bugged
@xaultimateax last I checked was before the new event came out. Not sure if you can still buy the dressed to kill packs. But it wasn't a glitch. They had all 24 original cosmetics from the event, plus loads of character and weapon skins from other events.
crazy cause im not tapped into this online talk about apex at all, never been... but over the past few months i definitely felt a change in the attitude of the ppl in my lobbies etc, seems like ppl stopped having fun and its just sweatiness and a bunch of expensive items. i been playing it less and less, just crazy how ppl like me that arent even tapped in to the online discussion or up to date with apex issues, even we been feeling the energy is changing in the game
The sound track is from alien hominid. I remember playing this game in early 2000. Good memories
the fact i dont even play apex and see videos saying this nonstop, do none of the producers or devs or anyone on the team at all look at the internet ever 😭
John Wick rolling down the stairs moment.
fixes the matchmaking and gives us straight shot and arenas back permanently
The downfall started with being publish by EA, I would never ever waste my time on a EA game
Im from South Africa and when exotic shards came out I just groaned because I knew it was the beginning of the end. to buy 50 exotic shards for 1 of the katar sets its over 700 rand which for our currency is a shit ton to blow on a couple of pixels in a game. Thats almost a weeks worth of food which just blows my mind. As if thats fckn worth it. You had a good run Apex
its been on this slippery slope its gained too much speed to stop lol. I honestly noticed it when more skins were released every other week and then past event recolors were their next idea. Instead of adding actual content in gameplay or gamemodes they went the worse route.
grrt what was that game you were playing it was like a vr one in this video.
Half Life Alyx
@ ok thank you
Player wants new legends,new guns,new map, they just not making any of these.
I have more fun in ranked than I do in pubs 😂 the chaos of the final 2 circles gives such an adrenaline rush after coming home from work 😂 hit diamond today lol
7:05 Mythic...GRENADE SKINS? EA... we did not ask nor need this at all
Its crazy how the way they were before making money to have their highest earnings and the moment they didnt meet expectation they started monetizing in a shitty way and started wondering why no one is spending as much before, its like almost they should go back to the way before to keep making money lmfao.
I'll be honest, it felt kind of empty up until recently. But this past week with all the relic weapons and now the sword, has actually made pubs really fun. Or maybe that's just me getting lucky with the matchmaking D:
Pudding skins with special select animations behind a half milestone events really lost me skins that I used to pay 20 bucks for because I like the aspect of cool select animations. I now have to drop 62 150 to try to get the skin.
"Let's give our players something LITERALLY NO ONE asked for..... a gernade recolor!!😑 Yea u heard us right get your wallets ready Cuz for ONLY the LOW LOW price of $160 you can be SOOO COOL & have your gernade be a different color for those 2 seconds Be4 u throw it!!!"🤦♂️💯.... NOW lets see WHO are tthe br@!n d3@ds that ACTUALLY buy it😑💯💯💯.... Cuz ya'll ARE the ACTUAL problem you just feed into EVERYTHING they wanna OVER charge us for..
Its paradogic.
Apex is losing players and money, and they want to make new cosmetics to attract new player but since they are short on money, they use predatory gambling and recolors to attract them. But because they only offer recolors and gambling they lose even more playerbase and money so the cycle repeats.
The article you show is in August 2023 and your chart shows the most successful time/season was Feb/S16, Aug (on your chart) is in the middle of a massive decline.. which they are talking about in the article, in August
It's insane that you've been able to keep up even with the decline of Apex, bro. I feel you should switch content, especially with the rapid decline of Apex. 😭 love yer content ❤
I’m so sad about where this game has gone - I don’t even feel the love of the characters personalities, nor do I feel like there is a real story to follow anymore. I won’t give up on apex but I won’t spend hundreds to get skins.
ah yes
the classic grEAd
What doesn’t help is the creators bashing it instead of just making polite informative videos
that year on bp skins coming back has been a thing for a while and I'm very surprised that nobody talks about it.
Another reason is just a lack of game modes. i got back from school wanting to play some pubs but it was just a cycle of getting trampled by either an epg, buster sword, or pulse blade. Can we not at least have regular pubs always in the game??
There's no way. I actually said we'll have mythic granade recolors before the newcastle heirloom. And it looks like I was right.
I feel for the Developer that wanted to boost the Skirmisher Class it’s seems all his/her ideas were getting ignored because that class never got new abilities for so long that’s an entire class ignored for several seasons it’s terrible I’ve never seen an entire class in a gun game ignored like image a class of weapons that never get buffed for several seasons people would stop picking them up same thing that happened to the skirmisher class… it’s like every other class had changes to there abilities why is this class so hard..?
No Battle pass items eventually coming back is not ethically bad. It's the opposite. I'm fine with that change
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This is the dirtiest and the most humiliating thing I've ever seen in a online game. EA shouldn't be allowed to touch anything related to video games. Lootboxes and gambling should be banned worldwide.
it’s so insane the the last week where after one collection ends aNOTHER POPS UP like what- and then hide another in the store like 😐😐😐😐 yea
I just re-downloaded apex after quitting in April for a year to see what's been going on...Its a damn shame what this game has turned into. From the battle pass changes and the crashes, packet burst and hackers. Idk how most keep playing.(No toxic bs)
Grrt-sama, I got an idea. Start an OF in Apex cosplay you'll bring this game back no doubt
I been waiting so long for that final fantasy Newcastle skin to come back and now that I don’t have money to spend it randomly comes back 😔
Remember how EA said they wanted to make Apex live for 20 years?
Honestly as a community we as a community should stop giving them money, until they make the game better an worth actually playing and not a money grab game. Honestly EA just knows how to ruin games.
I feel bad for the devs. They are in between the community complaining to make the game better and EA doing its best impression of Mr. Crabs
They game is so interesting i grinded like 4 seasons had alot of fun but this game in particular has the worst case of repetition after you get gud enough theres no where to go you get bored never pick it up
I just got back at the game and wtf is going on with loba and support characters? If you got three supports on your team its basically a win but if you got only one is game over
this man loves saying slippery slope
I have never heard Grrt sound more disappointed in a video then this
whats with random half life alyx clip at 1:15
No engaging apex content
Just like in pubg smokes, the nades will have changed explosion colors.
Games not making financial expectations. Well games not meeting consumer expectations. Don't they know this dynamic, I think they ignore it because they know its not fixable at this point.
You make a video like this every other day bro
What's crazy to me is that these company's are huge VERY huge and yet they can't think straight
no one mentioning them RE RELEASING the final fantasy event, THE SAME DAY THEY RELEASED A SEPARATE COLLECTION EVENT
Well deserved tbh
Starving the fans
While pleasing every single pros desire
I felt my heart drop to see what state the game is in currently
This game could've became something much better with they stopped focusing on skins and actually focused on quality of life and game improvements
Remember when they wanted to CHARGE PEOPLE TO PLAY THE GAME MONTHLY???
The real downward spiral is them not listening to their players complaints and opinions like buff every character class or keep makin legend specific heirlooms even the events that are jus money hungry and peopl jus spend $ jus to spend it at this point
They could have done something cool like release picking a character more than once per team for things like doubles. Instead we got 142 skins no one wanted
“you can just not buy the skins” people when they are defending greedy monetization practice
This morning i hopped on
Took 2 hours to find 3 games
what servers r u on
Increasing the price of your artwork won’t often make you more money, you need to make more paintings or increase the quality of your art.
bro every 3 months i see a "apex is dying apex is doomed" video
Bro said "grenade skins" 😅😅😅 how long can you look at it 😅😅😂😂
Nothing gets fixed, it's always the same problems, and then bam-battle pass changes for the worse, and I'm like, yup, that's it for me.
I don’t even really play the game anymore but just watching this is giving me a headache 😵💫
What made me stop playing is that you can’t enjoy the game anymore as a casual. Every lobby is really sweaty, I don’t have fun anymore playing this game.
Officially more heirlooms than legends in the game. Are we deadass?
A lot of people here probably dont know about EA with Fifa and FC, they are the greediest company in the history of gaming effectively promote gambling to children.
I’m never going to understand why they don’t introduce ads into the game. And I don’t mean those distracting ads; I mean ones that are really integrated into the game, making it feel like big corporations are financing the Apex Games as part of the story.
For example, before you drop, you always see the Apex logo-why not change that to something like Coca-Cola, with the announcer saying, “These games are sponsored by the Coca-Cola Company”? There are also plenty of screens inside the game while you play -why not use those as ad space too?
Thats Not good
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it so depressing the way Apex has gone. Its potential was completely wasted.
EA forgot that a game needs players
Tired of the permanent take overs, unplayable as a solo with awful teammates every single game
It wouldn’t surprise whe when starting a match costs money later on😂😂
Honestly apex died the moment EA realized it was a money maker, only it died very slowly.
Idea: Could they do what fortnite did
Making a no ability mode for new players overwhelmed by abilities. It can add whatever mythic weapons or fun perk boxes to make it for just fun.
EA is like you know what will bring players back??? Overpriced skins. Works 100% of the time. I have mate a couple hours into apex since marvel rivals came out. Apex died when they introduced all these relics and continued pushing cosmetics instead of actual game updates to fix all the broken stuff. I’ll be surprised if it makes it out of 2025. If they want player engagement and money, make it to where you play 10 hrs a week and you get a discount on skins or mythicals. Nobody is going to shell out money on a dying game that barely nobody plays anymore. I went from day 1 playing everyday after work to deciding to go to bed early instead of opening this game. It’s sad honestly but goes to show the only path they had laid out was a monetized one.
Me and my friends stop playing pubs since all the bs relics event starts. My friends all quit apex because of the relic .
I also quit for a month cause I hated them. I came back to play launch Royale and then ranked
we stopped playing pubs and are now grinding ranks only because of the relics. changes the game too much.
The problem whit games now a days. is not for everybody. It’s for the rich, stupid people. That have too much unnecessary money to waste compared to the past that is more affordable. In Laymans terms greed, too much greed, not even the pot of greed the card of Yu-Gi-Oh is not that greedy
The apex battlepass packs are like what overwatch did but just for the battlepass and not a skin
next update: ammo skins and ult accelerant skin
Grenade skins. Yet another idea they're taking from the finals🤭
You can't even queue into a game in aus anymore 😭
To be fair I stopped spending money on apex around season 19 when apex started going to hell like I spent so much on this game but if it's gonna die like what is the point of spending more ?
I been playing Nine Sols and I’m happy I did :)
Genuinely haven’t played in a few years, I was so into apex it had so much going for it, with every decision they made it just made me not wanna play more and more
Idk how much better than cod
@@itachi1165thats a loow bar lol br genre is dead tbh
@@connormarion8070 k? Even multiplayer lmao not even br apex is a great game and free compared to others again idc
MAYBE if they actually gave a shit about fixing the issues in the game, like Matchmaking, the ranked system not being rewarding to play, movement staleness, it's just not a fun game anymore. they need something refreshing instead of trying to patch things with shitty LTMs and cosmetics.