This is such a perfect demonstration of the entire breadth of the game. Seems like high-level 1v1 on large maps really lets the game flex its muscles. 2v2 is also probably excellent.
This is the first full game of BAR I've watched. It's still confusing, but we all know good content when we see it. Thanks for bringing it to us Winter!
Oh trust me I had my first multiplayer games yesterday and was so confused but so so fun... and you get less confused every match! every video! goodluck!
I love the ability to create such glorious perspectives for these battles. You do a great job at providing it too. The scale of the game is so ridiculous and then you add the ability to give the spectator a view of it right down to the single shots of a single unit... WOW. I love these casts.
BAR pro-cards when? In all seriousness this is fantastic content, it's great to see you hyped for a game and really dive into it. This really brings me back to playing Supreme Commander, but now with the adult eyes of "oh this is how you actually get good at vidya game". Your casts are great, you're a credit to the RTS genre.
Thanks for casting this match, what an amazing slugfest. Top level play in BAR is some of the best in strategy games. As chaotic as it can get, it's hard to play well, but so easy to watch :)
on the record i got the game because of you..... last time i played online (some game) i was ranked 3rd ish made some friends too.. The ProNoobs are in training... since i last used the name it has become popular... but the shoes of the real ProNoobs are hard to fill..
Its worth to mention that Teddy had to play until early in the morning cause of timezone difference. Epic match, but he definetely did way more mistakes than usual. I hope the next tournament goes over multiple weeks instead of pushing it all into one day, for fairness sakes.
I used the promo code and received a special offer of endless commentary in game from my favourite commentator, I believe this not to be coincidental, neither beyond all reason.
Hey I tried your promo code but it didn't work? What am I doing wrong? You said it was something to do with a bit, is that bitcoin? How do I get that? Is it because I'm stuck in bronze? Will Void Ray rush get me early access? pls help..
I was a little meh about the BAR content on stream lately (there's just too many things going on for me to follow), but this has definitely sold me on the game. Epic game, epic cast, epic all around. Thanks for the content!
Pixels traveled by the mouse per minute for MP/m. The other stats are mouse clicks per minute, keypresses per minute, commands given per minute and how many commands/orders are given on average per action.
Is there some units tierlist by tier tech or soemthing? I struggle a bit to know what is more convinient in some situations and what units are always worth
hey im looking for a group to play and learn with. ive been playing for about 2 weeks and have gotten the basic start down but i could use some friends to play with
Guys I played Total Annihilation when I was kid, still one of the best games I have played till now. Is this an modern upgrade? A different game? I cannot remember exactly but it looks different. Thanks in advance for answering me.
Armada advanced fusion are much more expensive than Cortex ones, for the same amount of energy produced, that's why Teddy was only building basic ones. If you got the space, you should never build Armada AFUS. Of course in team games that's not the case. But 1v1 yes.
arm adv fusion have a bit more heatlth if i remember correctly. so they cost a bit more energy to build to compensate that advantage. but adv fusion for arm or core is still the most efficient energy production in the game (except for wind on a really strong wind map) so is still definitely worth building
Truly an epic game. This is what TA always dreamed of becoming. Kudos on MightySheep for securing the front line, laying minefields, staggering his defenses, and transitioning hard into a runaway economy. At a certain point Teddy was unable to push any fronts with T2, but by then it was too late and MightySheep was already switching to T3. Just goes to show that tactics win battles, but stratagem wins wars.
its funny cause this game actually give you the screen shots that the original TA adverts in PC gaming mags showed using stitched together screens... love it and hits that TA itch that suppcom although great never really scratched for me
Sheep is macroing like a FAF player. This game will never come close to matching the scale of FAF battles, but it's still pretty cool. "It wasn't over until that juggernaut touched grass." Nah, this game was over the moment Teddy allowed Sheep to gain a runaway economic growth rate. Sheep would have had to screw up monumentally to lose at that point.
winter we need a guide from you desperately. it does not matter if you think you're not high level master game play. you are so organized and so good at explaining. just get us to where you are. hit us with what you know. dont wait until you get your BAR game to where your starcraft 2 game skill is at.
I like it but they should make an spinoff of BAR... something where they keep a relative low number of units and buildings and where the games last 20 min on average.
I think there's a reason so many ARM players open Land; because Pawns vs Grunts isn't generally viable between players of similar skill, so the Core players have an advantage early on when versing Arm players. They don't have to scout as much and they have more viable openers. Until this is fixed, 1 v 1 will remain where it is. Mostly Core v Core. :shrug:
A great game, but the admins are hyper-active. Just one example from today, as per their mod bot: "(player) has been moderated. Reason: Griefing by destroying your own base even if the game is clearly lost, just resign instead., Restriction: Login" (2 day ban)
The problem with games originating from Total Annihilation/Supreme Commander, is that you barely get to see any battles. You are always so zoomed out, that you basically constantly look at some colored dots on screen.
@@yuttorres2896 tiny compared to PA. the biggest map i've seen on it is about the same size as the average planet in PA and you can have a system with 10 of those. PA has pretty much all of these units + T3 units + planet killer structures th-cam.com/video/5qT6jdUVvfE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/A9in5F1TmFs/w-d-xo.html it's just a better BAR
also one anti nuke can only fire so many missles, so if you have lets say 5 nuke launchers firing multiple missiles, one anti nuke will only be able to keep up for so long.
Yes but tbh anti-nuke is so cheap and easy to build that it's not really a viable strategy, considering it depends entirely on you never being scouted. There's also something to be said about how such a strategy might negatively impact your army production too. In my own experience from trying this against friends, it just leads to a very silly exchange where both sides impotently fire dozens of nukes at each other at once to no effect on either side. It doesn't help that there are mobile anti-nukes as well which can complicate efforts to snipe the anti-nukes and create and opening.
I guess the limit might have been lowered for the tournament from the usual 32k+1/(2+1) = 10923 per player one to 2k(+1?) - to not penalize players with weak CPUs ?
What a great 1v1 for the grand finals! Could have been even better if Teddy hadn't let one hero Grunt take out half his eco at the start, thrown away his T2 Tanks, and thrown away his Starlights, by planting them stationary in front of Shivas, and with no cover. 44:17: If we're going for more accurate, I would suggest Laserback ;p
These battles look so cool but also how the hell do the players keep track of what's happening? It looks 10 million times more overwhelming than even Starcraft. How do they even hotkey all this? Or they don't and just zoom out to oversee the battle? But then how can they even see what's what never mind micro their units? Or you just don't micro in this game? There's just so much I don't get
please Winter don't stop making BAR content, it's actually so good. I want to learn to cast this game for my stream!
JUST DOOOO IT DON'T LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUUUUU!!
Clap your hands if you believe in fairies!
This is such a perfect demonstration of the entire breadth of the game. Seems like high-level 1v1 on large maps really lets the game flex its muscles. 2v2 is also probably excellent.
8v8 on a large map is the ultimate chaos ,this game really goes beyond all reason
14:52 Grunticus Maximus. You will be remembered.
I loved Total Annihilation back in the day when I was a little Commander.
Krogoth ftw
That was pretty punny
That visible satisfaction at being able to predict the next building(just like he does in starcraft casts) was very fun to see
Thanks for casting this.
This is the first full game of BAR I've watched. It's still confusing, but we all know good content when we see it.
Thanks for bringing it to us Winter!
Oh trust me I had my first multiplayer games yesterday and was so confused but so so fun... and you get less confused every match! every video! goodluck!
I love the ability to create such glorious perspectives for these battles. You do a great job at providing it too. The scale of the game is so ridiculous and then you add the ability to give the spectator a view of it right down to the single shots of a single unit... WOW. I love these casts.
I really enjoyed your camera work on this one. We got to see some of the up close while also seeing the full map.
BAR pro-cards when?
In all seriousness this is fantastic content, it's great to see you hyped for a game and really dive into it. This really brings me back to playing Supreme Commander, but now with the adult eyes of "oh this is how you actually get good at vidya game".
Your casts are great, you're a credit to the RTS genre.
100% doing a Supreme Commander 2 run.
I was going to say a SC2 run but well... that's just confusing
Love the bar content please keep it up:)
NGL, Winter, your willingness to be completely corny is one of the best things about your casts. "Lines drawn... in the sand" LOL
18:30 made me so happy for you, I think you’re starting to learn this game indeed. Thanks for the cast
Man this game looks awesome! Thanks so much for casting it. Instant download for me
"Wouldn't it be silly if in an rts a mine automatically recharged"
Widow mine: Haha yeah what if
I started the game today, wath an amazing match you showed!! thank you
Awesome!!! Sweet casting and amazing gameplay...so many juggs.
Thanks for casting this match, what an amazing slugfest. Top level play in BAR is some of the best in strategy games. As chaotic as it can get, it's hard to play well, but so easy to watch :)
This match was the perfect ending for the tournament, it was epic, grueling, gridning and, msot of all, it was a macrochad match.
Epic match, watched it live, gg to both of them!
subbed for the bar content. keep it coming!
When I played TA in 1997 I would never have thought watching a successor in 2023 online - commented by Shia LaBeouf in a blue chair
Lol, me neither.
Really like this content. Great vid
We miss you at Beyond all Reason, winter! If you don't come back, that's okay. We appreciate you and your content.
on the record i got the game because of you.....
last time i played online (some game) i was ranked 3rd ish
made some friends too.. The ProNoobs are in training...
since i last used the name it has become popular... but the shoes of the real ProNoobs are hard to fill..
The casual implied Widow Mine roast *chef's kiss*
Its worth to mention that Teddy had to play until early in the morning cause of timezone difference. Epic match, but he definetely did way more mistakes than usual. I hope the next tournament goes over multiple weeks instead of pushing it all into one day, for fairness sakes.
I love watching this, it's too much for my smooth brain to play but I do love watching this :)
If you want to be completely invisible, you need to be cloaked and next to a radar jammer.
i raeally like how reclaim makes you think about using your army instead of just using it as fodder. hope this game gets all the attention it deserves
Mighty Sheep is so good. I’ve played with the dude maybe 2 times in team games. If he gets situated, it’s basically checkmate.
Thank you for content really good
Sidenote: Zero-K is also open source.
Damn ... what a fight! really enjoyed this one. Congratz to MightySheep though ;)
This brings back so many TA FEELINGS :) former Arm Player here😅
I used the promo code and received a special offer of endless commentary in game from my favourite commentator, I believe this not to be coincidental, neither beyond all reason.
Great cast. Great game. Great match.
Hey I tried your promo code but it didn't work? What am I doing wrong? You said it was something to do with a bit, is that bitcoin? How do I get that? Is it because I'm stuck in bronze? Will Void Ray rush get me early access? pls help..
most beautiful thing I have ever seen
Wow so good, this is better than any other game out there and it's free!
Ah, BAR, the perfect hunter gatherer stimulator.
It was that one grunt at the start, that did way too much damage and Teddy was behind for the whole game after that.
Love the BAR content this game is good
@lowko needs to cast this
I was a little meh about the BAR content on stream lately (there's just too many things going on for me to follow), but this has definitely sold me on the game. Epic game, epic cast, epic all around. Thanks for the content!
Imagine a gaming company that had a promo code for a free game.
That would be a great way to advertise
This was a very entertaining cast to watch.
The game was a masterclass in macro tactics.
nice!
that match was legendary.
Fun Game! watched whole things! Great Promo code btw. hehehe
Good job with the cast
WHAT BEGAN AS A CONFLICT ........................................ :)
14:12 please help make "no MEX land" a thing, Winter
does anyone know what "MP/m" in the end game stats screen means? It's usually in the tens of thousands values for players
Pixels traveled by the mouse per minute for MP/m. The other stats are mouse clicks per minute, keypresses per minute, commands given per minute and how many commands/orders are given on average per action.
Is there some units tierlist by tier tech or soemthing? I struggle a bit to know what is more convinient in some situations and what units are always worth
This was a really spicy one.
Can units be put into formation? Right echelons etc?
Helluva game!
hey im looking for a group to play and learn with. ive been playing for about 2 weeks and have gotten the basic start down but i could use some friends to play with
Guys I played Total Annihilation when I was kid, still one of the best games I have played till now. Is this an modern upgrade? A different game? I cannot remember exactly but it looks different. Thanks in advance for answering me.
How do you rotate the camera ?
Armada advanced fusion are much more expensive than Cortex ones, for the same amount of energy produced, that's why Teddy was only building basic ones. If you got the space, you should never build Armada AFUS. Of course in team games that's not the case. But 1v1 yes.
that is nit the reason and yes you should build arm afus
arm adv fusion have a bit more heatlth if i remember correctly. so they cost a bit more energy to build to compensate that advantage. but adv fusion for arm or core is still the most efficient energy production in the game (except for wind on a really strong wind map) so is still definitely worth building
Truly an epic game. This is what TA always dreamed of becoming.
Kudos on MightySheep for securing the front line, laying minefields, staggering his defenses, and transitioning hard into a runaway economy. At a certain point Teddy was unable to push any fronts with T2, but by then it was too late and MightySheep was already switching to T3. Just goes to show that tactics win battles, but stratagem wins wars.
It was actually pretty much over when Teddy let one Grunt destroy half his eco, very early on, but definitely sounds more epic your way ;p
its funny cause this game actually give you the screen shots that the original TA adverts in PC gaming mags showed using stitched together screens... love it and hits that TA itch that suppcom although great never really scratched for me
@@catbert7 i think he recovered from it quite well. but i have no glue tbh
Mine which recharges? That would be ridicilous?
Widow mines.
Sheep is macroing like a FAF player.
This game will never come close to matching the scale of FAF battles, but it's still pretty cool.
"It wasn't over until that juggernaut touched grass."
Nah, this game was over the moment Teddy allowed Sheep to gain a runaway economic growth rate.
Sheep would have had to screw up monumentally to lose at that point.
the weapon is Krog cannon named after Krogoth I guessing
That was EPIC!
awesome!!
Dang mighty sheep ran away with the eco
Grunticus Armadus Maximus was an absolute unit.
winter we need a guide from you desperately. it does not matter if you think you're not high level master game play. you are so organized and so good at explaining. just get us to where you are. hit us with what you know. dont wait until you get your BAR game to where your starcraft 2 game skill is at.
He already did multiple guides...
42:30 thats basicaly still ONLY a ripped off Krogoth... so it neither invincible nor dangerous if you know how to kill it...
a game i think you might also wanna look into is war selection its age of emipire esk to industrial stages
Teddy was using ww2 russian mine clearing tactics, or just running right into the mines
I like it but they should make an spinoff of BAR... something where they keep a relative low number of units and buildings and where the games last 20 min on average.
I think there's a reason so many ARM players open Land; because Pawns vs Grunts isn't generally viable between players of similar skill, so the Core players have an advantage early on when versing Arm players. They don't have to scout as much and they have more viable openers. Until this is fixed, 1 v 1 will remain where it is. Mostly Core v Core. :shrug:
A great game, but the admins are hyper-active. Just one example from today, as per their mod bot:
"(player) has been moderated.
Reason: Griefing by destroying your own base even if the game is clearly lost, just resign instead., Restriction: Login" (2 day ban)
สุดยอดครับพี่ Teddy 👍 👍 👍
I was pleasantly surprised that there was a Thai that plays this game 😂
epic game, epic cast
If there is a 15 minute no rush rule im cutting this off🤣
I just realized I was t subscribed. I didn't realize this is a different channel
The problem with games originating from Total Annihilation/Supreme Commander, is that you barely get to see any battles. You are always so zoomed out, that you basically constantly look at some colored dots on screen.
maps on this are tiny, thats the biggest issue with BAR over Planetary Annihilation (the other latest TA build)
Your crazy there are huge maps
@@yuttorres2896 tiny compared to PA.
the biggest map i've seen on it is about the same size as the average planet in PA and you can have a system with 10 of those.
PA has pretty much all of these units + T3 units + planet killer structures
th-cam.com/video/5qT6jdUVvfE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/A9in5F1TmFs/w-d-xo.html
it's just a better BAR
is it possible to overwhelm the anti nuke?
Yes, if you fire more nukes than there are anti-nuke missiles
@@warppooted cool, so the surprise mass nuke is actually a viable strat.
also one anti nuke can only fire so many missles, so if you have lets say 5 nuke launchers firing multiple missiles, one anti nuke will only be able to keep up for so long.
Yes but tbh anti-nuke is so cheap and easy to build that it's not really a viable strategy, considering it depends entirely on you never being scouted. There's also something to be said about how such a strategy might negatively impact your army production too. In my own experience from trying this against friends, it just leads to a very silly exchange where both sides impotently fire dozens of nukes at each other at once to no effect on either side. It doesn't help that there are mobile anti-nukes as well which can complicate efforts to snipe the anti-nukes and create and opening.
@@shadow7988 the mind games...
Do you need a thumbnail editor?
cant they raise the unit cap to 20k?
I guess the limit might have been lowered for the tournament from the usual 32k+1/(2+1) = 10923 per player one to 2k(+1?) - to not penalize players with weak CPUs ?
Wish he would name the map in the intro. Can t find it for my life
pawn retreat
THIS IS WHY T.A IS THE GREATEST STRADEGY GAME OF ALL TIME :)
BAR
Units don't have voice acting ?
they do not and it was recently asked question in the discord. devs said no plans as of yet to implement
Wow. Nuff said
What a great 1v1 for the grand finals! Could have been even better if Teddy hadn't let one hero Grunt take out half his eco at the start, thrown away his T2 Tanks, and thrown away his Starlights, by planting them stationary in front of Shivas, and with no cover.
44:17: If we're going for more accurate, I would suggest Laserback ;p
These battles look so cool but also how the hell do the players keep track of what's happening? It looks 10 million times more overwhelming than even Starcraft. How do they even hotkey all this? Or they don't and just zoom out to oversee the battle? But then how can they even see what's what never mind micro their units? Or you just don't micro in this game? There's just so much I don't get
Welp i need to download BAR now....
Is this Strickly pvp?
no, there are modes for pve. basically defence type games against raptors or scavengers or the option to play normal games vs ai enemies.
I would have ti be payed to download that actually.
SupCom when?
o7 for General Grunt
I WANT ANOTHER VIDEO :D
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