Nice to see a good variety of units being used at high-level, including the con turret transportation that's no easy to pull off under pressure. It feels like the skill cap in 4v4 could go a lot higher as players learn to coordinate.
Dude, the econ and unit sharing is so cool! Like you said its the best parts of Archon mode, but in a game built for multiplayer. I would be surprised if the game doesn't become even more specialized in competitive play. This is just one econ player backing three more or less "regular" players who coordinate a lot. But they could end up having people who just focus on vehicle micro, or defensive play vs raiding the enemy backlines and things like that. Because while everyone here was good, it is clear that BARCodes had the edge basically the whole time.
Amazing cast has always, it's a pleasure to see you have more sucess too ! i'm so happy for you, thanks a lot for those video ! (this game is amazing to watch at pro play, i love the sharing and vast array of possibilities) ♥
Awesome casting :) keep it up, I have been following this game for years, awesome to see that its finally picking up lots more plays and you are doing no small part!
the match between careless tryhards and TZN on thundra was a very nice match. back and forth, lots of attacks and action and some very cheese moves at the end to try and bring victory from the jaws of defeat. should be a nice one to cast.
Loving the BAR casts. You've gotten me into this gem of a game. One note: @35:03, "Sabot" is a French word, pronounced "SAY-bow" ("say" as in to speak, "bow" as in bow and arrow).
they caught up on energy without a big obvious play happening because they were building windmills as desperation and the wind went from a below average 5.7 doldrum to sitting at or near the map-cap of 22 in the span of a couple minutes
So, the Grand Finals is the best players in the game doing a bombing run, seeing the enemy has their own air units, selling their own air factory in response, making no AA, and dying to a bombing run... *sigh*
I just discovered this game and had no idea winter did any other games besides StarCraft and that one game with the big ships FPS, forget what its called. Either way, nothing will ever top Total Annihilation :)
honestly the best way I can think of to balance Air in a strategy game is fairly close to exactly how it works in real life: back here in the real world there are a LOT of weapons that can shoot well past the horizon, generally speaking the way to actually do something with that range is to have an air presence or at least ground forces in the general vicinity. it would make a game go a lot harder on building information networks but that's not really a bad thing if you can do it without it turning into an AMP=win situation. similar story for most other forces: even when you're just talking about guys with guns having more sources of information of different kinds and ideally different patterns of acquisition provides some pretty massive advantages.
I enjoy watching both your casts and your plays of this game. Starcraft 2 to me isn't that exciting of a game, SC1 is better imo, but this game is really good, definitely better than SC2. The RTS community needs new blood, although this is a remake of an old game, there are a lot of modern improvements that make it so much more unique and the devs deserve to be recognized for their generous contributions without any expectation of payment.
I do hope this game picks up some steam. I've been dying to sink my teeth into a new RTS after I let go of Blizzard and Starcraft, but nothing has been worth the time commitment
Hell yes. Restricted participation makes sense in some situations, in particular, in the sense of insider advantage and false advertising. If I run a lottery, and I tell everyone there's a million dollars to be won, but in reality, I already know the winning numbers and I enter myself, I am fundamentally defrauding my ticket buyers. But what's going on here? It's not like this guy is dropping balance patches the morning of these tournaments. It's not like he is playing by different rules. It's not like prize money is being fraudulently distributed. what's the harm here? The obvious benefit is that everyone gets to play with more skilled opponents and gets to watch higher skilled games. If you want to get better, what better way to learn the meta than to play against the balance team?
I am sorry but I have yet to see better RTS than WG: Red Dragon... Wargame franchise has RTS mechanics like no other and does not bother you with building management. Yet, you will get a master's degree from logistics and tactics by playing this game. BAR (or Starcraft) is not even close.
That isn't really true for BAR because u have usually balanced teams. In tournaments like this there is no autobalance and therefore there can be a huge discrepancy between teams. Anyway, the top teams where not so much spreader when u look at the rating of the single players but it seems one team developed a unorthodox strategy and team play that is beyond any of the other teams, which lead into a domination every single game.
One team hits the opponent at 3 minutes with air, doing nothing. The other team hits with air at 6 minutes, destroying so much stuff because the opposing team had no AA (despite having full knowledge that their opponent had some air). YT commenters: No answer to small rush. In truth, if you did the equivalent in AOE2 (arguably the most boom/fast tech friendly rts) and lost a ton of Vills to fuedal age harrass, a high level game would be over, too.
I for one had my wires crossed, thought we’d have fighter support even though I knew our air factory had been reclaimed. Very costly blunder on my part.
A great game, but the admins are hyper-active. Just one example from today, as per their mod bot: "(player) has been moderated. Reason: Griefing by destroying your own base even if the game is clearly lost, just resign instead., Restriction: Login" (2 day ban)
This game is the only RTS I have ever watched that allows for such cooperative flexibility. It's damn amazing.
Great cast, thank you! The last game between BARCode and ProBAR is a must!
Nice to see a good variety of units being used at high-level, including the con turret transportation that's no easy to pull off under pressure. It feels like the skill cap in 4v4 could go a lot higher as players learn to coordinate.
Thanks for amazing cast, Winter! Was funny and true part about me chilling on the Tabula!
Thanks for reviewing the stats and graphs at the end. No one else looks at it. Great matches awesome game awesome commentary.
Dude, the econ and unit sharing is so cool! Like you said its the best parts of Archon mode, but in a game built for multiplayer. I would be surprised if the game doesn't become even more specialized in competitive play. This is just one econ player backing three more or less "regular" players who coordinate a lot. But they could end up having people who just focus on vehicle micro, or defensive play vs raiding the enemy backlines and things like that. Because while everyone here was good, it is clear that BARCodes had the edge basically the whole time.
this game looks sick, but really complex
Love these casts Winter! Very epic!
Amazing cast has always, it's a pleasure to see you have more sucess too ! i'm so happy for you, thanks a lot for those video ! (this game is amazing to watch at pro play, i love the sharing and vast array of possibilities) ♥
I love BAR. I hope when you have time youll revisit this game!
Awesome casting :) keep it up, I have been following this game for years, awesome to see that its finally picking up lots more plays and you are doing no small part!
the match between careless tryhards and TZN on thundra was a very nice match. back and forth, lots of attacks and action and some very cheese moves at the end to try and bring victory from the jaws of defeat. should be a nice one to cast.
1440p high bitrate, competitive final beyond all reason game with the best caster. Does it get any better? Don't think so
Loving the BAR casts. You've gotten me into this gem of a game.
One note: @35:03, "Sabot" is a French word, pronounced "SAY-bow" ("say" as in to speak, "bow" as in bow and arrow).
The only real team RTS out there and I love it ❤
they caught up on energy without a big obvious play happening because they were building windmills as desperation and the wind went from a below average 5.7 doldrum to sitting at or near the map-cap of 22 in the span of a couple minutes
The level of team coordination displayed was quite impressive, I also wonder what Starcraft 2 team games coulda been if Blizzard ever cared about it.
Stormgate is going to really prioritize team play so if that takes off, it'll be interesting to see!
So, the Grand Finals is the best players in the game doing a bombing run, seeing the enemy has their own air units, selling their own air factory in response, making no AA, and dying to a bombing run... *sigh*
If that's your only takeaway your intelligence is the issue. Not the game/how it was played.
Great cast and great play congrats to the winners well deserved
Love the content
I made the ticks for defensive vision :)
damn, these replays are fun to watch
Barcode was so good!
And that support player had such a fun job lol...
(DE)SLR this guy got some serious skills, especially his worth to have him in the team😎 and he does share is knowledge on his yt channel!
@lolsteamroller
Raghna seemed to have ranked up between game 1 and 2
Waitwhat I thought you had like 500k subs? Jesus you are underrated.
Hey Winter! Are you planning on ever doing an Armada tier list like you did with Cortex?
remmem ber playing this map with my bro back in the SPRING days :)
I just discovered this game and had no idea winter did any other games besides StarCraft and that one game with the big ships FPS, forget what its called. Either way, nothing will ever top Total Annihilation :)
Recommendation: cast the tournament games that were not in the live stream
I don’t know why but I thoroughly enjoy your voice 😅
Great game to watch. Nice to see air be so effective - unlike in other TA type games where air is trash.
honestly the best way I can think of to balance Air in a strategy game is fairly close to exactly how it works in real life: back here in the real world there are a LOT of weapons that can shoot well past the horizon, generally speaking the way to actually do something with that range is to have an air presence or at least ground forces in the general vicinity. it would make a game go a lot harder on building information networks but that's not really a bad thing if you can do it without it turning into an AMP=win situation.
similar story for most other forces: even when you're just talking about guys with guns having more sources of information of different kinds and ideally different patterns of acquisition provides some pretty massive advantages.
asking for 400 thumbs is rookie numbers!
you need to start setting higher expectations - this is taking off!
well done!
The corners of the map looks like some big ol
Glorious!
usually people will make spider type units or creatures have 6 legs so as not to trigger people with serious arachnophobia issues
Congrats on 10k winter... Kutgw 👍
they're called Fleas in the code, so if he's balancing them, he's prob more familiar with that name.
love the BAR content
I enjoy watching both your casts and your plays of this game. Starcraft 2 to me isn't that exciting of a game, SC1 is better imo, but this game is really good, definitely better than SC2. The RTS community needs new blood, although this is a remake of an old game, there are a lot of modern improvements that make it so much more unique and the devs deserve to be recognized for their generous contributions without any expectation of payment.
Is it possible to widden the river by keep killing and resurrecting your commander along a river?
Terrain deformation is available in this game so yes, you could make a wider river by blowing and ressurecting as you said.
Yeah, or just use nukes 😋
Was there some update to the game ? for some reason it looks much more vibrant and just better in general.
I do hope this game picks up some steam. I've been dying to sink my teeth into a new RTS after I let go of Blizzard and Starcraft, but nothing has been worth the time commitment
do the teams not go into a discord or other voice chat to play? there were some times that questions/ info was posted in chat from players
Reminds me of the old game total annihilation.
you're almost at doble the likes you asked for, meaning you have to do two more series
I was in my xen with that river view
nice!
Never seen Rahna lose a game, is he unbeatable?
oh wtf, didn't know you casted this game 8 months ago.
is it ethical to have a member of the balance team play competitively? lol great cast!
Hell yes.
Restricted participation makes sense in some situations, in particular, in the sense of insider advantage and false advertising. If I run a lottery, and I tell everyone there's a million dollars to be won, but in reality, I already know the winning numbers and I enter myself, I am fundamentally defrauding my ticket buyers.
But what's going on here? It's not like this guy is dropping balance patches the morning of these tournaments. It's not like he is playing by different rules. It's not like prize money is being fraudulently distributed. what's the harm here?
The obvious benefit is that everyone gets to play with more skilled opponents and gets to watch higher skilled games. If you want to get better, what better way to learn the meta than to play against the balance team?
@@timmietimmins3780 very true and good points, I was mostly memeing but I agree that having a competitive eye for the balance is great.
Where i can download.?
where to watch the replay?
what is the map name?
Hype
10k LETSGOOOO
08:30 two comms clashing and explode. but camera on two shurikens stunning some useless unit. nice.
Great cast. Just one thing. Can you maybe remove player cursors pliiz
I am sorry but I have yet to see better RTS than WG: Red Dragon... Wargame franchise has RTS mechanics like no other and does not bother you with building management. Yet, you will get a master's degree from logistics and tactics by playing this game. BAR (or Starcraft) is not even close.
Don´t con the Rubicon! 🙃😛🤪
The maps are a bit small in this game
Should be 4444 likes tbh
Captain Jack Sparrow is the worst BAR captain I've ever heard of!
DSD !!! :D
raghna imba
wp
Hehe 🥇
i upevote XD
+1
Shame there's no suspense in bar games. You can see who's gonna win pretty much the entire time. Oh well, good cast.
That isn't really true for BAR because u have usually balanced teams. In tournaments like this there is no autobalance and therefore there can be a huge discrepancy between teams. Anyway, the top teams where not so much spreader when u look at the rating of the single players but it seems one team developed a unorthodox strategy and team play that is beyond any of the other teams, which lead into a domination every single game.
I was thr 444th vote boys
1st game was over in the first 5 minutes, that's the problem with BAR at this level play... no chance to recovery after even a tiny rush.
The game was over when Malady came in with bombers and there were no fighters to defend.
That’s not necessarily true, there’s always comeback potential with the reclaim mechanic
One team hits the opponent at 3 minutes with air, doing nothing. The other team hits with air at 6 minutes, destroying so much stuff because the opposing team had no AA (despite having full knowledge that their opponent had some air).
YT commenters: No answer to small rush.
In truth, if you did the equivalent in AOE2 (arguably the most boom/fast tech friendly rts) and lost a ton of Vills to fuedal age harrass, a high level game would be over, too.
I for one had my wires crossed, thought we’d have fighter support even though I knew our air factory had been reclaimed. Very costly blunder on my part.
A great game, but the admins are hyper-active. Just one example from today, as per their mod bot:
"(player) has been moderated.
Reason: Griefing by destroying your own base even if the game is clearly lost, just resign instead., Restriction: Login" (2 day ban)