Developers vs Pros - Crazy 8v8! Beyond All Reason (Epic RTS)

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  • @BeyondAllReason
    @BeyondAllReason ปีที่แล้ว +180

    BAR Devs not only stronk in developing :D Thanks for this Winter!

    • @donbionicle
      @donbionicle ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Slightly random question: do t1 walls block the shots of non-artillery t1 units, if they're trying to shoot a laser tower behind said walls?

    • @StefanHaasbroek
      @StefanHaasbroek ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well hot damn! that was one hell of a swing! Sea planes T-Shirts for merch store😎

    • @johngreen2468
      @johngreen2468 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      devs pulled the seaplane imba unit that noone new about? :P

    • @BeyondAllReason
      @BeyondAllReason ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@StefanHaasbroek Haha! Yeah we should add Teifion Logo on them :P

    • @BeyondAllReason
      @BeyondAllReason ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@johngreen2468 Well... everybody in this game should know that seaplanes are T1.5...

  • @Agora2021
    @Agora2021 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Damn, devs actually did fantastic. I'm used to seeing devs getting floored.

    • @TheJBerg
      @TheJBerg ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Same. Guess that explains why this game is actually good😅

    • @masterlinktm
      @masterlinktm ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That is because most other devs are devs first and gamers second/never.

    • @Yayaloy9
      @Yayaloy9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's why the game is so amazing lol

  • @dblaikie
    @dblaikie ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Winter using "remnants" to describe anything in this game just makes me think of the intro of Total Annihilation - "The remnants of their armies continue to battle on ravaged planets..."

  • @Bowzerkega
    @Bowzerkega ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Never realized just how strong seaplanes where.

    • @Vevvev8
      @Vevvev8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They can only be built in water, but their effectiveness is incredible. It's like a tech 1.5 or tech 2 style unit. They're meant to be used in water battles, but they're equally good against land to. They can also land underwater and some come equipped with sonar for dealing with submarines like the Torpedo Gunships.

    • @Ioniota
      @Ioniota ปีที่แล้ว

      And you never will.

    • @NoNameAtAll2
      @NoNameAtAll2 ปีที่แล้ว

      were*

  • @woarl
    @woarl ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I had a great time, I can't believe nobody expected the air raid though.

    • @donbionicle
      @donbionicle ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Air rushes seem to be frowned upon, so it was a great play to exploit that gap in preparedness.

    • @BeyondAllReason
      @BeyondAllReason ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@donbionicle Teifion is very well known for his 'unexpected' air-raids..
      Somehow, he keeps pulling them off...

    • @woarl
      @woarl ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donbionicle The only people frowning on them are the ones that forgot to build anti-air.

    • @Etruscots
      @Etruscots ปีที่แล้ว

      I think if the pings came a little bit sooner or if they were spammed Mighty Sheep woulda lived and maybe even Moms coulda lived too, for example Flak was almost built in time. It looked to me that the moment the two realized what was going on the planes were already on top of them.

  • @catbert7
    @catbert7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah yes, 8 "pros" and zero anti-air. Classic.

  • @shawnlongman9815
    @shawnlongman9815 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Crazy how important the water is on this map, it’s game defining definitely!

    • @LeakysTV
      @LeakysTV ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thats why the dev make the enermy river player crash :D

  • @imomedvidek
    @imomedvidek ปีที่แล้ว +4

    man, I'm so glad that caster of your qualities is making BAR videos. I absolutely love to watch this game, so thank you.

    • @catbert7
      @catbert7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's quite a few good casters for BAR. Try Kona. He's new but hilarious.

  • @T0tenkampf
    @T0tenkampf ปีที่แล้ว +7

    thats two casts in a row that MBT wasnt toxic, played to the end, and did really well. We may see him start jumping way up in the rankings!

    • @DJTimeLock
      @DJTimeLock ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, you probably dont want to be toxic when playing against the devs xD

  • @ihavespoken1083
    @ihavespoken1083 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The devs all looking at their side of map. The plebs looking at other side of map.

    • @BeyondAllReason
      @BeyondAllReason ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We dislike that word in all honesty. We try to honor the fact that most devs actually play the game a lot, and that indeed might be the secret ingredient why people seem to like BAR. However, in the leaderboards you can see that most top ranked players are not devs.

  • @entertheabzu
    @entertheabzu หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn, what a match. The plebs were cocky that's for sure, was glad to see them get bodied. Really good match on both sides.

  • @basileusbasil4041
    @basileusbasil4041 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just realized something that might make losing late games more fun in these games: Some kind of guerilla warfare units and buildings that allows a losing player to try and make a comeback.

  • @calebshort2169
    @calebshort2169 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i cant believe i got to play 8 games or so with and against wintergaming last night. i was totally outclassed save one really nice pladdy push i had nothing

  • @sampsonsampson
    @sampsonsampson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really glad you're making content on more RTS

  • @grahamelliott9506
    @grahamelliott9506 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in the original TA , you could use an air transport and 'kidnap' the enemy commander, fly them over enemy air defenses and let them shoot you down for big boomies

  • @BlackPhoenix90
    @BlackPhoenix90 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very entertaining game! Thanks for casting!

  • @nathanneal5525
    @nathanneal5525 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    BAR can't be selected as the game this TH-cam vid is covering yet? rip

    • @BeyondAllReason
      @BeyondAllReason ปีที่แล้ว +27

      We need to have a Wikipedia page, which needs 'real' references of big/trustworthy websites. We've applied to verify our wiki-page setup, but it got declined multiple times. We've recently been covered by the biggest tech website in the Netherlands, maybe this will finally do the trick.

    • @masterlinktm
      @masterlinktm ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BeyondAllReason "trustworthy" websites
      Cringe.
      Because the actual game devs are untrustworthy. /s

    • @awakeandwatching953
      @awakeandwatching953 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@masterlinktm just another reason to despise wikapedia

  • @yevanasvetya5486
    @yevanasvetya5486 ปีที่แล้ว

    Devs actually delivers a stunning match. them lot really are a true show man.

  • @randomsounds2167
    @randomsounds2167 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    rip teifion, he will be missed (he's not dead he just left)

  • @seafire1900
    @seafire1900 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    BAR players trying not to make the wackest names ever.

  • @DyingCr0w
    @DyingCr0w ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was savage. Wow.

  • @ShaunJS
    @ShaunJS ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a sick game, but a couple of the comments kind of annoy me a little bit. People are surprised that these devs are good/passionate and think that's somehow innate to them and that AAA game devs (or whoever) are just worse somehow.
    On one hand you have a completely open source, volunteer project, driven entirely by spare time, passion and the coming together of a community where there are no CEO pockets to line and no mortgages to pay, a one in a million environment standing as proof of the cool shit that can be done when you're not beholden to capitalism and employment. On the other you have AAA game development, which zero developers get into for money, but end up having to rely on for money. Where those developers don't pick what they make, they don't pick their deadlines, they have mandatory working hours + abhorrent crunch hours and they have all of their passion systematically destroyed by their industry because they have to make a Product for Profit.
    Obviously one of those projects is going to have more passionate, energized and invested developers who clearly play the thing they make.
    The problem is not Who is making the games, its How and Why they are making the games.
    Once again though, sick match and a big shout out to the whole BAR team/community. It's something very special.

    • @flippedoutcookie
      @flippedoutcookie ปีที่แล้ว

      This is completely false. Bungie devs were trash at their games (except for a couple guys who were 50's during the hay days of Halo 3 for example) and they were absolutely passionate about game making/their own games specifically.
      RTS games I imagine require more skilled devs at their own game in general. How else will they balance/design properly? Mix in OS, this being a passion project, being long time RTS players, etc... yeah they are the damn exception overall. There is no way to cope about it otherwise it's simply true.

    • @ShaunJS
      @ShaunJS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@flippedoutcookie jfc.
      Firstly the team playing here are not all "balancers" or really even designers that's not really how BAR or any dev team works. And yes you can obviously be passionate about your game and be bad at it too. That's not incompatible with anything I said. This game is literally built by *players* because they simply wanted it to exist and had the skillsets necessarily. Obviously they are better at their game (that they are building for *themselves*) than a studio making a product to a brief in order to make a profit. That is what makes them so exceptional. It is not some innate property of being somehow mystically, inherently different as a human being to your average AAA developer. It's just products under capitalism versus products not.

  • @Mekose
    @Mekose ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Devs playing and being good at the game they're making is the same reason TFT and FFXIV are such gems. I'm in love with BAR and I understand why after seeing the passion from the devs. Great game!

    • @Komyets
      @Komyets ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you clarify what TFT is plz?

    • @Mekose
      @Mekose ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Komyets team fight tactics, it's the league of legends auto-chess game. I hate league, but TFT is incredibly fun and well designed. The lead dev of the game "Mortdog" frequently streams playing the game and releases videos on youtube for every patch going over his thought process on the changes. He has a mantra of "always blame me, not the team" because he cares about his team and listens to the community.

  • @sexmcsexface
    @sexmcsexface ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice!

  • @Liam-do7rv
    @Liam-do7rv ปีที่แล้ว

    Unfortunate that one Pro player disconnected would have been interesting to see the counter sea plane attack...

  • @gilles22
    @gilles22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun one !

  • @manumaster1990
    @manumaster1990 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice!

  • @Klaus2319
    @Klaus2319 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    well centurions are the BIIIIG gruns xD, same attack but stronger, more range more hp+ expensive and slow
    how 2 upload and download replays?
    I got an fun game with super hero TICK 200+ promotions xD

  • @Treksh
    @Treksh ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pretty neat game, shame it didnt go into the late game.

  • @iliasshogenov5929
    @iliasshogenov5929 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are seaplanes stronger than t2 planes?

    • @kanseidorifto2430
      @kanseidorifto2430 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That might depend but they’re definitely a good bit stronger than T1 and are reasonably as cheap. So you get much stronger air

    • @BeyondAllReason
      @BeyondAllReason ปีที่แล้ว +3

      no, they are more T1.5

  • @JafoolyTing
    @JafoolyTing ปีที่แล้ว

    If the devs lose, everyone getting banned.

  • @kurtremislettmyr7108
    @kurtremislettmyr7108 ปีที่แล้ว

    party cast

  • @Jup1t0r
    @Jup1t0r ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Momsboytoy 💀💀👀

  • @Star-ef6dr
    @Star-ef6dr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    air just takes the fun out of everything...

    • @Church287
      @Church287 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or you could just not leave yourself completely vulnerable to it. The fact that out of 8 players there wasn't at least 1 on each side more or less dedicated to air is kinda ridiculous.

    • @masterlinktm
      @masterlinktm ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A backline raid was bound to happen considering how hard top was winning.

    • @Mekose
      @Mekose ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This could have been stopped by a few cheap AA turrets back in base or one out of 8 players building a few fighters. The seaplanes were scouted on the forward radars, so they had time to react they just didn't expect it and left themselves open. I've started always putting a few AA turrets in the front line after being wiped by air pushes.
      Also consider that top completely won their lanes, which means there was no pressure on green which allowed them breathing room to make air to support the other lanes. If top had been pressured more then green would have been forced to keep making sea units to defend their lane. Keep in mind it does take time and resources to switch to air and if you go air first then you have no ground units to hold your lane. Top was bound to wrap around anyway, this wasn't some OP move that they did for free.

  • @danimusdecimus2674
    @danimusdecimus2674 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    impressive match