I’ve just bought a 1992 Honda CBR600F-N, 38 years after I last owned a bike. Just sorting it now to get MOT ready and then I’ll be out riding. Can’t wait.
Just did this past weekend. 1992 F2 and boy is this a hell of a first bike project. Not complicated, just hard to source parts locally. Everything has to be ordered online. Even my local Honda dealer stated most of these parts are discontinued from Honda. Aftermarket, NOS & second-hand it is. Buying what I need now but will begin to stock up for the future as soon as its running. LET'S RESCUE THESE PUPPIES, ADOPT DON'T SHOP !!!!!
Good going. Sometimes, just because someone is a mechanic, doesn't mean they know how to work on everything. As an electrician, I know a lot of electricians that don't have a clue when it comes to automotive wiring.
If I remember the old cycle world article correctly, the hoses from the airbox are for pressurising the float bowls. This would prevent the pressurised ram air coming down through the main jets and frothing the fuel in the bowl.
I’ve got a zzr1100, had starting issues. I went through the wiring diagram and checked the system in a methodical fashion. A wiring diagram makes it so much easier. The problem was a faulty relay on the negative circuit. It’s very satisfying when they run sweet and knowing you did it yourself 👍🏻
I have a '96 CBR600F3 myself. It has been running perfectly until I stored it in the Pandemic - 2020. I had it brought to a mechanic due to a rough 3-cylinder start and we couldn't get it running since. We have gone through the same steps you have covered and the conclusion is that the carbs have to come off again and everything has to be cleaned again really carefully... I would really like to hear her roar again but I plan to sell it and buy a fuel-injected motorcycle even if this beauty has a sentimental value for me. The ethanol is slowly killing the classics unfortunately...love your content, keep it up ! Greetings from Romania !
Its been a while since you posted your question but I have a 1996 that ive owned for the alst 25 years. it was doing the three cylinder start as well. here are some things to check: vacuum test ports on the head to the carb. mine had dryrotted and caused air leaks. Check the sync and balance with a 4 vac channel gauge. once I synced them and then balanced them by vacuum all 4 cylinders fire right up. I hope that helps.
I have a 1996 600F3 that was a Texas import in my garage, registered in England 1998, it has been off the road since 2002 and has only done 9'127 miles from new. I have wanted to restore it for years as it is a little tatty now, but never had the time, lots of OEM parts bought and a few upgrades but it is still in the garage partially dismantled. I am worried now though about ethanol infested fuel, it would really damage the carbs, so these days I keep telling myself that I will finish it and put it on display in my Bachelor house.
I used to know a race engineer who worked his magic on rc30’s and he once told me how good these engines are. Even now a good one will keep with most modern stuff. Glad you got it running👍
Last year I bought a 1989 CBR600F (jelly mold). 54,000 miles .Been out a couple of times, love it. Done quite a bit of work on it, mainly cosmetic. I bought one when they first came out. You certainly know your local roads, that's for sure.
I run/store my 96F3’s last tank with non ethanol gas from the airport every winter. 5 years and 10k miles later still starts right up with the choke. Not a fan of stabilizers. If I couldn’t get ethanol free gas I’d just mix water with it to separate and then siphon it out. Then just add some octane booster for that tank. If the gas smells bad in any of my gas tanks after storage or a new machine I just pump it out of the tank into a funnel with a coffee filter and mix it in with the cars gas. I use a duraheat siphon pump. When I got my bike with 10k miles on it I changed the fuel filter (it was plugged limiting flow), petcock (it leaked at the tank O ring), the oil and filter, the fan wouldn’t kick on (fuse was blown), new tires and valve stems, new clutch cable (old one dragged even with lube), brake fluid ( it was 30 years old), headlight (it was very dim), air filter (upgraded to K&N), exhaust (upgraded to Delkevic), brake lever (old was bent), seat bolts (2 new bolts can be removed with an Allen key that stays on the bike) yes I’ve needed a jump and if you don’t have a wrench/socket you can’t get the seat off to get to the battery. Overall this is a great bike if you keep fresh gas in it and regular maintenance. I’m a short guy at 5’6” with a 29” inseam and this is a comfy ride when I commute 30 miles one way on it. I wouldn’t call it a beginner bike because it has lots of power. My best 1/4 mile is 12.5 at 112 mph and I’m 210 lbs. Most cars under 500hp have trouble keeping up. They don’t make them like they used too and these are cheap fun if you can find a decent one. I get asked how fast is it all the time and it’s fast enough for me. I’ve got a video of it revving on my channel. Ride safe 👍🏻
Have you tried using toluene ? I put some in my old Porsche and it made it better than new. Truly rocket fuel that stuff tho I had fuel injection; no idea what it'd due with carbs.
Just bought a 99 F4 and running through same process. Fuel pump replaced and running, now just working on carbs but love the info on freeing up the trottle and will be using these tips shortly. Thanks for the vid, its great. Will def check out your others
I've just bought the same bike which has been off the road for 8yrs and wont start. 1998 honda cbr 600f. Needs the tank cleaning. Will also check the fuel pump and relay. Great video.
Good luck! Clean the carbs out that will probably be one of the things! Keep in mind the Fuel pump only activates once the bike is turning over so you won’t get a buzz from just turning the bike on.
This bike and the F2 are my favorite bikes ever. There’s also a Cagiva which had horrible brakes and a mushy front suspension that made you feel like you were going twice as fast as you really were.
My 80 year old neighbour has a 91 F2. He starts it every Saturday and let's it run until the fan cuts in. He has been doing this for about 4 years as he don't ride anymore until earlier this year she wouldn't start. All jets was fully blocked. Tank is like new inside but petcock was also gummed up. And he used fuel stabiliser.
that rough idle is likely to be a blocked pilot or idle jet, and such a lot of work to get into them and clean them. Check you plug colors as one or more will be lighter if that is the case. i am forever clean out my cbr400rr carbs
I had a 1996 F3 50K on the clock, it was stolen. So I got a 1999 F4. They are fast enough and cheaper to run than a 1000cc bike. Nice vid and quite often with bikes it is something simple that is the problem but we overthink instead of chasing the issue
@@explosivehotdogsIt was taken off the street it had a huge disc lock on 3 people in a van just picked it up and put it in the van (all caught on CCTV). My F4 has 2 oxford monster chain and locks on it chained to metal railings, also it has a alarmed disc lock and bike cover and is kept in a secure compound with CCTV. Last month 2 people dressed in black with balaclavas took the cover off the bike then left it alone, they then went and stole a VFR800 from the same compound which was recovered from about 100 metres away where it had been dumped as they couldn't start it but they caused enough damage to write it off
James, invest in a jis screwdriver, you’ll never look back, Amazon mate. And pull the clutch in when turning over, takes the flywheel load away , sorry to be a pain mate, great vid though
Brilliant video… there’s something about 90s sports bikes that are just so damn fun!! I recognised the petrol garage at Longwick… some nice roads around there! Great channel mate… 😎
Thanks very much bud appreciate that! 👍 Lovely roads around here I agree, hopefully going to get to wales at some point this year! Great content on your channel too mate 🙌
i bought a cbr 6 years ago as a damaged repairable ,wouldnt run ,even took it to local bike shop ,they couldnt find owt wrong ,really good they were .turns out the plug leads were on the wrong plugs .......
Identical to my 96. It's the best colours. I'm having trouble with a flat spot from 5k to 7k revs. It feels like a jet issue, though I've just fitted a SS exhaust, not sure if that's effecting back pressure? Great video mate, looking forward to watching the track day on it. Thanks for posting
Hi James I am about to buy same bike 1999 Where is best place for parts And best place to take it for servicing ? Perhaps you coukd look after it for me? Many thanks
Once my charge thing next to the fuel relay went bad and bike wouldn’t even turn on at all. I forget what it’s called but it changes your power from ac to dc to charge battery or something
My 02 cbr just stalled on the way to work when i parked then boom the kill switch stopped working usually it shows f1 light but it does nothing.. idk what to do it just tried to crank over but doesnt
the fuel pump on my 95 cbr 600f is doing a clicking sound about every half second while operating, does it have to do soemthing with the way the fuelsystem works?
A good car mechanic should be able to fix bikes. Or diesels etc. If not, then they aren't a good mechanic period. Principles are the same across all machines. It's basic troubleshooting.
I remember when the Honda Hurricane 600cc F1 motorcycle came out in the late 80's they were not that expensive at the local dealership. A few years later the Honda F2 model really created a buzz in the motorcycle community and there was a big price increase at the local dealership for the bike. I picked up a new Honda F2 in 1994 for $5,000 dollars. I still have the bike. It's very uncomfortable to ride but fast as hell if that's what your looking for.
I used to race the F1 Hurricane in the 1980's. It was the original Vance and Hines supersport bike (I got used from a third party) Loved that bike. Every loophole in the rules were exploited and it was bike lengths faster down the straights than a stock F1 yet even close up with a magnifying glass it appeared to be bone stock. I wasnt racing in AMA at that time so we could modify it in our series. We tried to make ram air by sealing the air ducts to the airbox but it would not run right. After all these years now I know it is because it is missing that tube to pressurize the floatbowl. I remember the F2 was a game changer. Way faster than the F1 or the FZR600. Fun times.
I’ve just bought a 1992 Honda CBR600F-N, 38 years after I last owned a bike. Just sorting it now to get MOT ready and then I’ll be out riding. Can’t wait.
I have a 1995 Honda cbr600f and I can’t figure out what wieirng harness I need nor can I find one can anyone help
YOUR DETAILED VIDEO GIVES ME THE CONFIDENCE TO ACTUALLY BUY ONE OF THESE OLDER BILES THAT JUST NEEDS TLC
same :)
Just did this past weekend. 1992 F2 and boy is this a hell of a first bike project. Not complicated, just hard to source parts locally. Everything has to be ordered online. Even my local Honda dealer stated most of these parts are discontinued from Honda. Aftermarket, NOS & second-hand it is. Buying what I need now but will begin to stock up for the future as soon as its running. LET'S RESCUE THESE PUPPIES, ADOPT DON'T SHOP !!!!!
Good going. Sometimes, just because someone is a mechanic, doesn't mean they know how to work on everything. As an electrician, I know a lot of electricians that don't have a clue when it comes to automotive wiring.
If I remember the old cycle world article correctly, the hoses from the airbox are for pressurising the float bowls. This would prevent the pressurised ram air coming down through the main jets and frothing the fuel in the bowl.
I would love to see more of this type of content. Very chill and still insanely helpful
Thanks mate 🙌🙌
I’ve got a zzr1100, had starting issues. I went through the wiring diagram and checked the system in a methodical fashion. A wiring diagram makes it so much easier. The problem was a faulty relay on the negative circuit. It’s very satisfying when they run sweet and knowing you did it yourself 👍🏻
This makes me miss my CBR600 F4! Massive fun!!
I have a '96 CBR600F3 myself. It has been running perfectly until I stored it in the Pandemic - 2020. I had it brought to a mechanic due to a rough 3-cylinder start and we couldn't get it running since. We have gone through the same steps you have covered and the conclusion is that the carbs have to come off again and everything has to be cleaned again really carefully... I would really like to hear her roar again but I plan to sell it and buy a fuel-injected motorcycle even if this beauty has a sentimental value for me. The ethanol is slowly killing the classics unfortunately...love your content, keep it up ! Greetings from Romania !
Its been a while since you posted your question but I have a 1996 that ive owned for the alst 25 years. it was doing the three cylinder start as well. here are some things to check: vacuum test ports on the head to the carb. mine had dryrotted and caused air leaks. Check the sync and balance with a 4 vac channel gauge. once I synced them and then balanced them by vacuum all 4 cylinders fire right up. I hope that helps.
Take the carbs to a guy with an ultra sonic cleaner..
@@davepoul8483 already did, they were squeaky clean. In the end I bought a repair kit and it all worked just fine
I have a 1996 600F3 that was a Texas import in my garage, registered in England 1998, it has been off the road since 2002 and has only done 9'127 miles from new. I have wanted to restore it for years as it is a little tatty now, but never had the time, lots of OEM parts bought and a few upgrades but it is still in the garage partially dismantled. I am worried now though about ethanol infested fuel, it would really damage the carbs, so these days I keep telling myself that I will finish it and put it on display in my Bachelor house.
i got 1996 600f honda too it rides like a dream :)
I used to know a race engineer who worked his magic on rc30’s and he once told me how good these engines are.
Even now a good one will keep with most modern stuff.
Glad you got it running👍
It’s a quick bike!
lovely bike the rc30 , but needs a good mechanic and they all use oil.
racebike with only 2 rings on each piston
Perfect video I done all the checks got a not runner for cheap last person out the pipes on the fuel pump backwards 👍
Last year I bought a 1989 CBR600F (jelly mold). 54,000 miles .Been out a couple of times, love it. Done quite a bit of work on it, mainly cosmetic. I bought one when they first came out. You certainly know your local roads, that's for sure.
I run/store my 96F3’s last tank with non ethanol gas from the airport every winter. 5 years and 10k miles later still starts right up with the choke. Not a fan of stabilizers. If I couldn’t get ethanol free gas I’d just mix water with it to separate and then siphon it out. Then just add some octane booster for that tank. If the gas smells bad in any of my gas tanks after storage or a new machine I just pump it out of the tank into a funnel with a coffee filter and mix it in with the cars gas. I use a duraheat siphon pump. When I got my bike with 10k miles on it I changed the fuel filter (it was plugged limiting flow), petcock (it leaked at the tank O ring), the oil and filter, the fan wouldn’t kick on (fuse was blown), new tires and valve stems, new clutch cable (old one dragged even with lube), brake fluid ( it was 30 years old), headlight (it was very dim), air filter (upgraded to K&N), exhaust (upgraded to Delkevic), brake lever (old was bent), seat bolts (2 new bolts can be removed with an Allen key that stays on the bike) yes I’ve needed a jump and if you don’t have a wrench/socket you can’t get the seat off to get to the battery. Overall this is a great bike if you keep fresh gas in it and regular maintenance. I’m a short guy at 5’6” with a 29” inseam and this is a comfy ride when I commute 30 miles one way on it. I wouldn’t call it a beginner bike because it has lots of power. My best 1/4 mile is 12.5 at 112 mph and I’m 210 lbs. Most cars under 500hp have trouble keeping up. They don’t make them like they used too and these are cheap fun if you can find a decent one. I get asked how fast is it all the time and it’s fast enough for me. I’ve got a video of it revving on my channel. Ride safe 👍🏻
Wow thanks for sharing!!
Have you tried using toluene ? I put some in my old Porsche and it made it better than new. Truly rocket fuel that stuff tho I had fuel injection; no idea what it'd due with carbs.
Just bought a 99 F4 and running through same process. Fuel pump replaced and running, now just working on carbs but love the info on freeing up the trottle and will be using these tips shortly. Thanks for the vid, its great. Will def check out your others
Thanks very much!
I've just bought the same bike which has been off the road for 8yrs and wont start.
1998 honda cbr 600f.
Needs the tank cleaning. Will also check the fuel pump and relay.
Great video.
Good luck! Clean the carbs out that will probably be one of the things! Keep in mind the Fuel pump only activates once the bike is turning over so you won’t get a buzz from just turning the bike on.
Enjoyed that vid , I bought one brand new, same colour in jan 95 . What an excellent bike it was , I want another now 😁
Awesome! It is a lovely bike!
I had the same colour 95 plate and sold it in 99. Always regretted it, I searched for years to find a tidy low mile one. I'll keep hold of this one 😊
I just restored a 97 F3 and ran through this same thing with the fuel pump and relay , great video !
Cool, sounds lovely, thanks very much for sharing!
cool attention to detail, i like that, its the little things that make all the difference.
talking in liters too.
Very true!
My first ever “big bike” at the age of 21. Such a nice bike to ride!
Right on!
This bike and the F2 are my favorite bikes ever. There’s also a Cagiva which had horrible brakes and a mushy front suspension that made you feel like you were going twice as fast as you really were.
Thanks for reminding me to bring my Ninja250R back from the grave.
Enjoy !!!
Just came across your channel and I double glad I did , great job 👍👍👍
Welcome aboard!
Interesting video, fault finding is great achievement once you locate the problem,
Great channel, keep the videos coming 👍👍
Thanks Daniel, it's good fun when it goes your way, when you get stuck perhaps not so fun hahaha
My 80 year old neighbour has a 91 F2.
He starts it every Saturday and let's it run until the fan cuts in.
He has been doing this for about 4 years as he don't ride anymore until earlier this year she wouldn't start.
All jets was fully blocked.
Tank is like new inside but petcock was also gummed up.
And he used fuel stabiliser.
Need to remove that carb and do a proper clean with a parts cleaner and replace anything rubber. May they have another ride someday!
Still looks gorgeous to this day.
that rough idle is likely to be a blocked pilot or idle jet, and such a lot of work to get into them and clean them. Check you plug colors as one or more will be lighter if that is the case. i am forever clean out my cbr400rr carbs
Great video mate, glad you sorted the issue out and got a bargain in the process! 👍
Thanks Tom, looking forward to getting some more videos up on it 👍
I had a 1996 F3 50K on the clock, it was stolen. So I got a 1999 F4. They are fast enough and cheaper to run than a 1000cc bike. Nice vid and quite often with bikes it is something simple that is the problem but we overthink instead of chasing the issue
Whereabouts was it stolen? What's the best way to avoid theft these days short of keeping it in sight / in the garage?
@@explosivehotdogsIt was taken off the street it had a huge disc lock on 3 people in a van just picked it up and put it in the van (all caught on CCTV). My F4 has 2 oxford monster chain and locks on it chained to metal railings, also it has a alarmed disc lock and bike cover and is kept in a secure compound with CCTV. Last month 2 people dressed in black with balaclavas took the cover off the bike then left it alone, they then went and stole a VFR800 from the same compound which was recovered from about 100 metres away where it had been dumped as they couldn't start it but they caused enough damage to write it off
@@66pac57 uff awful to hear : ( people are absolutely brazen these days...
James, invest in a jis screwdriver, you’ll never look back, Amazon mate. And pull the clutch in when turning over, takes the flywheel load away , sorry to be a pain mate, great vid though
Just came across you channel and I am loving the content! Keep it up!
Welcome aboard! Thanks very much
If you just want a great riding motorbike and aren't bothered about high fashion - it's the best choice. Pre hornet engine era are best.
Love them f3 they're so comfortable
Brilliant video… there’s something about 90s sports bikes that are just so damn fun!! I recognised the petrol garage at Longwick… some nice roads around there! Great channel mate… 😎
Thanks very much bud appreciate that! 👍 Lovely roads around here I agree, hopefully going to get to wales at some point this year! Great content on your channel too mate 🙌
@@jamescrawshaw71 cheers buddy… Wales is amazing 😎
Congratulations. Keep up the good work!
Thanks David 🙌
i bought a cbr 6 years ago as a damaged repairable ,wouldnt run ,even took it to local bike shop ,they couldnt find owt wrong ,really good they were .turns out the plug leads were on the wrong plugs .......
That was lucky 👍
Identical to my 96. It's the best colours.
I'm having trouble with a flat spot from 5k to 7k revs. It feels like a jet issue, though I've just fitted a SS exhaust, not sure if that's effecting back pressure?
Great video mate, looking forward to watching the track day on it. Thanks for posting
Might be jets? Could need a clean or go up a size on the mains
what a great video, this guy is a star
Thanks Lee, much appreciated! Thank you for watching.
Still looks amazing in 2024
James remeber it is not fuel injection system Caberaters Motorcyles little bit different still love your content.
Thanks very much 👍
Hi James
I am about to buy same bike 1999
Where is best place for parts
And best place to take it for servicing ?
Perhaps you coukd look after it for me?
Many thanks
Once my charge thing next to the fuel relay went bad and bike wouldn’t even turn on at all. I forget what it’s called but it changes your power from ac to dc to charge battery or something
Regulator / Rectifier.
Very nice bike, love these 600F bikes. Swedish gloves for more speed? :-)
Yes indeed!
Wringing it out on rotten tires , fairplay to you .
Full send haha
Love these cbr’s
Cheers Luke 🙏
Just bought an 88 huricane 27000 miles there pretty ez to get goin
Awesome enjoyed that
my 1990 cbr 600 had this issue i just gravity fed no more ploblems
Hi i brought a 1994 honda cbr 600f it was running ok then lost power and now wont start what can you recommend?
Good old girl still does go doesn’t she 👌
great job. very informative
Thanks
My old 84 goldwing I went out got new fuel pump and relay and just when brought new battery and able crank the engine turns out old fuel pump was fine
looks intressting i can get a 2000 year for 1500 wich sounds like alot fo bike for the price
Yeah buy it! Great bikes
new subs brother! nice cbr600f
Had one the same colour and I have a 2000 model
I am cbr guru f3 with stage 3 zero to 100 real quick
I don't understand why people think kill switch has any effect of fuel pump it doesn't it's cdi and fuel pump relay .
Incredible ❤
Thanks
My 02 cbr just stalled on the way to work when i parked then boom the kill switch stopped working usually it shows f1 light but it does nothing.. idk what to do it just tried to crank over but doesnt
Check all the switches ect 🤷♂️
i bought a running when parked bike....it was my first bike....i was thinking it would only need carb cleaning...in reality, it was a broken cam chain
Oh! Get it sorted, or was everything well and truly F…?
Ouch.
I have a 1995 Honda cbr600f and I can’t figure out what wieirng harness I need nor can I find one can anyone help
the fuel pump on my 95 cbr 600f is doing a clicking sound about every half second while operating, does it have to do soemthing with the way the fuelsystem works?
Yes they run off the ignition pulse that's normal
Nicest model year
It sure is!
getting f'in throttle envy over here..
hahaha does sound good though doesn't it 😁
Fuel 🤔
Skipped the part when the carbs had to be cleaned.
Sorry bud will get a video of this on another project bike I’ve just collected. 1995 B1 ZX-9R 😁
Thay run fine with out fuel pump
This one didn't!
It's always a worry when you buy a bike from a mechanic who couldn't get it going right ? Not much of a mechanic is he then ?
He was a car mechanic 😉
A good car mechanic should be able to fix bikes. Or diesels etc.
If not, then they aren't a good mechanic period. Principles are the same across all machines. It's basic troubleshooting.
i would not buy a non running from a mechanic...if he can not fix it, it should be something major...not all the time though
I'd buy it for the right price and the right diagnosis so long as I had the skill to fix. The keywords being right pricr and skill to fix : )
y....es honda
I remember when the Honda Hurricane 600cc F1 motorcycle came out in the late 80's they were not that expensive at the local dealership. A few years later the Honda F2 model really created a buzz in the motorcycle community and there was a big price increase at the local dealership for the bike. I picked up a new Honda F2 in 1994 for $5,000 dollars. I still have the bike. It's very uncomfortable to ride but fast as hell if that's what your looking for.
I used to race the F1 Hurricane in the 1980's. It was the original Vance and Hines supersport bike (I got used from a third party) Loved that bike. Every loophole in the rules were exploited and it was bike lengths faster down the straights than a stock F1 yet even close up with a magnifying glass it appeared to be bone stock. I wasnt racing in AMA at that time so we could modify it in our series. We tried to make ram air by sealing the air ducts to the airbox but it would not run right. After all these years now I know it is because it is missing that tube to pressurize the floatbowl. I remember the F2 was a game changer. Way faster than the F1 or the FZR600. Fun times.