Yup. When you've seen one Pendolino, Voyager or DMU - plus the ridiculous number of 66s under the wires - you've seen 'em all. All the interest has gone!
@@class87srule I actually like seeing an Avanti Voyager fly by. They aren't very common so seeing one is always a treat for me and feel older and more "industrial" and I prefer the livery on it more than the 390 with the silver instead of white and it's a nice break from seeing the 390 nearly every time.
You’re welcome T&BF. It’s strange to have finally finished editing and uploading the collection, although I did find three hidden bonus episodes from 1988 on the last DVD. Have you seen those?
Living in SW London visiting places like Warrington were a rare treat. Visited there once, class 20s, 25s etc. I remember it as a busy and varied place. I now live in Merseyside and visited Warrington just before lockdown. Miserable now. Not one freight train in the few hours I was there. Of course the passenger trains were all boring fixed sets, gone are the days of trains of mixed period stock with various classes of traction. Great to see trains formations of Mk1, 2, and 3 stock in this video. Wish I'd made more of an effort to see various parts of the country. Did a fair bit, as time and money would allow. Never thought the railfreight landscape would be the way it is now. Barely any coal traffic, same with oil traffic. Gas and chemicals traffic gone. No wagon load or mixed traffic services any more. Thanks for recording this, at least we can still see some of the past. Brilliant series of films.
Thanks Neil, and really glad you're enjoying the collection. Funny isn't it...for us NW based enthusiasts in the 80s, going down to London was a rare treat? We took all of this for granted. Boy do I miss it now!!
Both Alan and I are delighted that you’ve enjoyed the series enough to watch it twice Kevin. Thank you. Alan is still shocked and humbled that his films have been so popular and so well received.
Takes me back....many happy hours spent on that platform with the latest copy of Rail Enthusiast, a bottle of Vimto and the smell of the Persil factory for company!!!
Love it Ned. It's incredible the different memories this collection has brought back for different people. I suggested last week that we could release a scratch and sniff card to use whilst watching the videos, like they tried with TV a few years back to make it more immersive. We'd definitely have to have a soap factory section on there wouldn't we? Really glad you're enjoying the collection and thanks for the great comments.
@@kartwheelkarl Just heard the Persil factory may be closing as people prefer Liquid Tabs these days!!! Nothing lists for ever except the great memories- thanks again for uploading:-))
I always knew this day would come! Sorry to see this is the finale as I have really enjoyed these videos. Thanks so much for uploading them, really appreciated. Nice to see single 20s in action a relatively uncommon by the mid 80s. Based on the formation the train at 0:46 looks like a combined Edinburgh Glasgow portion train. TSO TSO BFK TSO TSO Buffet TSO TSO BFK TSO TSO.
Really pleased that you’ve enjoyed the collection Waverley. It was strange when it was finished because I’d spent so long sorting, editing and uploading that I was really sad. I was delighted when Alan told me there was some extra footage, filmed in 1988, that I hadn’t found. That gave us the three bonus issues.
@@kartwheelkarl I had understood you were uploading someone else's footage and wasnt sure if Alan was still with us. I was pleased to see from.a couple of your responses he is. Please pass on my thanks and appreciation for his videos.
@@PerthMRC Certainly will Waverley. Alan is still very much with us and he is absolutely delighted with the positive reaction to his collection. Unfortunately, I don't see him as often as I used to since I moved 3000km away to the other end of the continent!
a very interesting document. But I do remember the run down state of the network,no continous welded track,and a lot of two axled coal hoppers, with an very loud sound,wenn running at speed throught Oxfort Station. On network southeast they had no mercy with the passengers, the track quality was poor, but the speeds high.This was in 1977, her Majesty `s 25 th Crown Jubilee.And Intercity 125 was the latest invention of British Rail, and all other train had to "go like hell" to give give way to those trains from London Paddington. The result was alway always a smokey Class 47 with black smoke piles of 25 meters,when starting mostly in pairs in Intercity service and a lot of engine motor failures !. Many greetings from Germany.
Thrashing locos with smoky exhausts Class 88, and bouncing along on sectioned track! You're describing my idea of heaven!! Really glad you're enjoying the collection.
InterCity was a great success. Pity John Major srewed up Britain's railways. The struggling franchise holders should return shares to tje Government for every pound of bailout money they get... gradually renationalising them
@@stephensmith799 looking at the UK from afar as I do these days Stephen, it would appear that there is a slow move back towards partial nationalisation, for example with east coast. Am I right in that and do you think it will become more prevalent because of the problems caused by COVID?
@@kartwheelkarl Yes. Renationalisation is under way. All rail franchise operators (Train Operating Companies) have ad all their revenues and expenditure taken over by the Government. This happened with almost no comment. I am not sure how shareholders are being paid but this 'interim' system will be replaced by something else that won't be 'franchising'. As you point out the East Coast Main Line is entirely public having been re- nationalised twice! Northern Rail is also entirely public. The former LSWR system which was operated first by the South West Trains and then by South Western Railway was already racking up huge deficits before the pandemic. Many franchises over estimated their traffic forecasts the bidding process having encouraged them to do so. It is an omnishambles!
Wow,!motorail ,pretty rare to see that ,still had proper trains and carriages ,plenty of room ,and a mining industry still with us ,is that a household coal freight?
Plenty of houses were still using coal for heating in the 80s Jeffrey, but much of the coal traffic around Warrington was destined for the nearby Fiddlers Ferry Power Station. Check out Alan's film on Arplley Junction for trains to and from the power station. Also, check out his film on Crewe for more Motoral footage.
@@kartwheelkarl a lot of my past family worked down the pits ,infact my great grandfather on my mothers side was killed shaft sinking ,we had when I was young 5 fires in the house 20cwt of coal every month ,I had to fill the coal house or there was no pocket money,that was in the 60,s ,just in the process of moving and one of the pre requisites is that it’s got to have open fires ,found a bungalow iout in the sticks that fits the job !
@@jeffreyhodge5564 Excellent Jeffrey. I reckon that new house will be very cosy. When we first moved to Australia, we had a house which used wood (mainly red river gum and blue gum) as it’s main form of heating. Very cosy but also messy and lots of work! Living in North Queensland now, we don’t have any form of heating in the house!! Plenty of cooling though. Mind you, we are close to one of the largest undeveloped high quality thermal coal seams in the world, but the public opposition to opening it up is phenomenal.
Where do you think you know him from Stephen? I'll ask him next time we chat. Unfortunately, I don't see him as often as I used to since we moved 3000 km away to the other side of the continent!
Yes many thanks for this series I would rather watch one of these than 10 recorded yesterday, fantastic
Absolutely George. Really pleased you’ve enjoyed the collection.
Yup. When you've seen one Pendolino, Voyager or DMU - plus the ridiculous number of 66s under the wires - you've seen 'em all. All the interest has gone!
@@class87srule I actually like seeing an Avanti Voyager fly by. They aren't very common so seeing one is always a treat for me and feel older and more "industrial" and I prefer the livery on it more than the 390 with the silver instead of white and it's a nice break from seeing the 390 nearly every time.
A huge shame this is the final instalment always liked to view these old videos.Thanks for sharing them.
You’re welcome T&BF. It’s strange to have finally finished editing and uploading the collection, although I did find three hidden bonus episodes from 1988 on the last DVD. Have you seen those?
Thanks so very much to both of you and Alan's VHS! Fantastic memories of our railways when I was in my teens, brought back to life.
You’re very welcome Jonahs. Really pleased you’ve enjoyed the collection.
Living in SW London visiting places like Warrington were a rare treat.
Visited there once, class 20s, 25s etc. I remember it as a busy and varied place.
I now live in Merseyside and visited Warrington just before lockdown. Miserable now. Not one freight train in the few hours I was there. Of course the passenger trains were all boring fixed sets, gone are the days of trains of mixed period stock with various classes of traction.
Great to see trains formations of Mk1, 2, and 3 stock in this video.
Wish I'd made more of an effort to see various parts of the country. Did a fair bit, as time and money would allow.
Never thought the railfreight landscape would be the way it is now. Barely any coal traffic, same with oil traffic. Gas and chemicals traffic gone. No wagon load or mixed traffic services any more.
Thanks for recording this, at least we can still see some of the past.
Brilliant series of films.
Thanks Neil, and really glad you're enjoying the collection. Funny isn't it...for us NW based enthusiasts in the 80s, going down to London was a rare treat? We took all of this for granted. Boy do I miss it now!!
Thank you so much for doing this, been fantastic
You’re very welcome Tomarse. Really glad you’ve enjoyed the collection.
Thanks to You and Alan for this amazing series ! I was only 3 when these scenes were recorded and I have enjoyed watching them all :-)
Excellent Alfwedark. Really pleased you’ve enjoyed watching the collection.
@@kartwheelkarl Thank you again Karl, they are always a good end to a bad day.
I’ve now watched the collection twice as it’s so good, shame it’s finished . Many thanks
Both Alan and I are delighted that you’ve enjoyed the series enough to watch it twice Kevin. Thank you. Alan is still shocked and humbled that his films have been so popular and so well received.
Just like I remember it!
Excellent Rod. Really pleased to bring back happy memories and glad you’re enjoying the collection.
I've really enjoyed these. Much respect to Alan for going to all the effort.
Thanks Andrei. Alan is delighted that his films have been so well received.
Those Mark 2d coaches will always be my favourites for the ride and the view.
Indeed Stephen. So much more spacious than a pendolino, and no seats stuck next to window pillars.
Excellent Blast from the past footage Thanks for uploading 👍👍
You’re very welcome ELR. Glad you’ve enjoyed the collection.
Takes me back....many happy hours spent on that platform with the latest copy of Rail Enthusiast, a bottle of Vimto and the smell of the Persil factory for company!!!
Oh yeah god that bloody soap factory, everything seemed to have a fine white dust coating
Love it Ned. It's incredible the different memories this collection has brought back for different people. I suggested last week that we could release a scratch and sniff card to use whilst watching the videos, like they tried with TV a few years back to make it more immersive. We'd definitely have to have a soap factory section on there wouldn't we? Really glad you're enjoying the collection and thanks for the great comments.
@@kartwheelkarl Just heard the Persil factory may be closing as people prefer Liquid Tabs these days!!! Nothing lists for ever except the great memories- thanks again for uploading:-))
A great video full of interesting locos.
Absolutely John. Glad you're enjoying the collection.
Thanks for uploading all of these. I have enjoyed every minute. All the best.
You're very welcome Dan. Really pleased that you've enjoyed the collection.
I always knew this day would come! Sorry to see this is the finale as I have really enjoyed these videos.
Thanks so much for uploading them, really appreciated.
Nice to see single 20s in action a relatively uncommon by the mid 80s.
Based on the formation the train at 0:46 looks like a combined Edinburgh Glasgow portion train. TSO TSO BFK TSO TSO Buffet TSO TSO BFK TSO TSO.
Really pleased that you’ve enjoyed the collection Waverley. It was strange when it was finished because I’d spent so long sorting, editing and uploading that I was really sad. I was delighted when Alan told me there was some extra footage, filmed in 1988, that I hadn’t found. That gave us the three bonus issues.
@@kartwheelkarl I had understood you were uploading someone else's footage and wasnt sure if Alan was still with us. I was pleased to see from.a couple of your responses he is. Please pass on my thanks and appreciation for his videos.
@@PerthMRC Certainly will Waverley. Alan is still very much with us and he is absolutely delighted with the positive reaction to his collection. Unfortunately, I don't see him as often as I used to since I moved 3000km away to the other end of the continent!
a very interesting document. But I do remember the run down state of the network,no continous welded track,and a lot of two axled coal hoppers, with an very loud sound,wenn running at speed throught Oxfort Station. On network southeast they had no mercy with the passengers, the track quality was poor, but the speeds high.This was in 1977, her Majesty `s 25 th Crown Jubilee.And Intercity 125 was the latest invention of British Rail, and all other train had to "go like hell" to give give way to those trains from London Paddington. The result was alway always a smokey Class 47 with black smoke piles of 25 meters,when starting mostly in pairs in Intercity service and a lot of engine motor failures !. Many greetings from Germany.
Thrashing locos with smoky exhausts Class 88, and bouncing along on sectioned track! You're describing my idea of heaven!! Really glad you're enjoying the collection.
Highlight for me was the Motorail plus the varied 13 coach formation including ScotRail Mk3.
InterCity was a great success. Pity John Major srewed up Britain's railways. The struggling franchise holders should return shares to tje Government for every pound of bailout money they get... gradually renationalising them
@@stephensmith799 looking at the UK from afar as I do these days Stephen, it would appear that there is a slow move back towards partial nationalisation, for example with east coast. Am I right in that and do you think it will become more prevalent because of the problems caused by COVID?
@@kartwheelkarl Yes. Renationalisation is under way. All rail franchise operators (Train Operating Companies) have ad all their revenues and expenditure taken over by the Government. This happened with almost no comment. I am not sure how shareholders are being paid but this 'interim' system will be replaced by something else that won't be 'franchising'. As you point out the East Coast Main Line is entirely public having been re- nationalised twice! Northern Rail is also entirely public. The former LSWR system which was operated first by the South West Trains and then by South Western Railway was already racking up huge deficits before the pandemic. Many franchises over estimated their traffic forecasts the bidding process having encouraged them to do so. It is an omnishambles!
No duds among these locomotives.
Indeed Stephen.
Wow,!motorail ,pretty rare to see that ,still had proper trains and carriages ,plenty of room ,and a mining industry still with us ,is that a household coal freight?
Plenty of houses were still using coal for heating in the 80s Jeffrey, but much of the coal traffic around Warrington was destined for the nearby Fiddlers Ferry Power Station. Check out Alan's film on Arplley Junction for trains to and from the power station. Also, check out his film on Crewe for more Motoral footage.
@@kartwheelkarl a lot of my past family worked down the pits ,infact my great grandfather on my mothers side was killed shaft sinking ,we had when I was young 5 fires in the house 20cwt of coal every month ,I had to fill the coal house or there was no pocket money,that was in the 60,s ,just in the process of moving and one of the pre requisites is that it’s got to have open fires ,found a bungalow iout in the sticks that fits the job !
@@jeffreyhodge5564 Excellent Jeffrey. I reckon that new house will be very cosy. When we first moved to Australia, we had a house which used wood (mainly red river gum and blue gum) as it’s main form of heating. Very cosy but also messy and lots of work! Living in North Queensland now, we don’t have any form of heating in the house!! Plenty of cooling though. Mind you, we are close to one of the largest undeveloped high quality thermal coal seams in the world, but the public opposition to opening it up is phenomenal.
I wonder if it is the same Alan Harrison I know....
Where do you think you know him from Stephen? I'll ask him next time we chat. Unfortunately, I don't see him as often as I used to since we moved 3000 km away to the other side of the continent!
@@kartwheelkarl The Alan Harrison I know is a West Midlander and a good trades unionist...
@@stephensmith799 This Alan is from East Manchester Stephen so I’m afraid it’s a different person.
Motorail!
Motorail indeed Graham. Brilliant idea wasn’t it? Shame it’s not still available, although I think it was a bit too pricy for most people.
Before EMD got involved.
Absolutely TBG - not a 66 in sight!
@@kartwheelkarl I still think the EMD units are cool though.