It’s okay to not be a great player if you write great songs. Kurt Cobain was not technically a good guitarist but he wrote and played guitar parts that were perfect in the context of his music. When I played guitar in the ‘90’s I was lucky to be learning in the age of grunge and pop punk which were simple for a beginner. Had I been learning a decade earlier I’d probably have been too intimidated by the solos to even attempt to play popular songs.
I'd argue that it had more to do with his vocal melodies and vocal tone than his guitar parts. I still don't understand the hype overall though and I wish people would stop acting like he was anything more than a human being just like the rest of us.
@@vosoryan my point is that he played the right guitar parts to complement those vocal melodies. His guitar playing was rudimentary but it fit with the raw nature of the songs. I certainly don’t believe he was anything other than human but he had an extraordinary talent for expressing his human experience with others through music.
I think Kurt was a good guitarist in like the way he thought out of the box, he didn't just use basic chords yknow, on a lot of Nirvana songs you'll hear some dissonance or weird scales that ended up being there by chance bcs he didn't want to just do something basic. I think there's two ways of innovating, knowing enough what you're doing to avoid clichés or not giving a shit enough to avoid clichés
The appeal of Nirvana from someone who was a teenager at the time was the energy and emotion. They tapped into the existential angst of late Gen X who were crushed by the weight of expectations of our boomer parents and the constant threat of nuclear annihilation.
Exactly. It's not about technical they are. It's about the time they were a band and how they impacted young American that were sick of their boomer parents and fucking sex, drugs and rock n roll. Just like I stopped listening to metallica because I found out about my chemical romance, fall out boy and many many other bands in high school. Their lyrics and music was speaking to me than a song made in the fucking 80s about doing cocaine.
@@FXKNate yeah bro✌️ I would have loved to have gotten lessons, but having to use your initiative, and to get industrious to find ways to keDn... happen, helps you to really take on the responsibility of learning. You know the buck stops with, and if you don't get proactive, creative and tenacious in finding ways tit learn...
@@drummergurl99 yeah I was confused by that because I started learning bass nearly 20 years ago and I definitely used the internet lol it was a lawless land, but there were resources
Although Kurt wasn’t technical with the guitar he was a great song writer. If he was not we wouldn’t sing and listen to his songs and even learn them on guitar still this day . Kurt wanted to write catchy songs and he achieved it .
@Billy Napalm I think the Monkee's are better than the Beatles :^) I guess we can agree that opinions are subjective. But I'm sure I agree with you since ELP are a boring experience for me
I think people like Juice WRLD and Poorstacy would have been the (much better) face of this weird mainstream returns to alternative like it wasn’t still cool the past decade. They both were working with Travis Barker and slowly bringing pop punk and other guitar genres into their sound. It would have been interesting to see and hear what would’ve come from that
I am really starting to like this channel more and more, I am lucky I found it Also, I appreciate this video a lot, I feel like a lot of people who try to criticize MGK just say the same thing over and over again, you actually brought up good points (Not an MGK fan, don't get me wrong)
I think what made me in my "emo phase" was (mainly) motionless in white, 2000s nu-metal music, and horror movies, I don't if I grew out of it..... probably not 😂😂😂
Tom Delonge is the best example of being medicore at guitar, while being self-aware about it, and sometimes self deprecating. But I bet you can hear that intro riff to Whats my age again? ...in your YYYEAD right now.
The thing he seems to not get is that working to be as skilled as possible at guitar does not diminish your creativity and make you robot without feeling, it gives you a depth of understanding and technical skill to be able to take your creative vision and make it a reality. If he actually used his resources to get lessons from a good teacher and continued workhard at it he could likely become a pretty competent guitarist.
Honestly, I feel like if someone’s dedicated enough they could learn guitar if they wanted to. Tobias Forge learning guitar from listening to vinyls and doing it by ear. I mean, now you’ve got all these accessible things online, tabs/lessons/guides etc.
I rarely comment on videos, but I find myself wanting to comment on all of your videos! Unfortunately, I haven't had the pleasure of having a dream about Attack Attack! but, I did see them at warped tour once! Love your content 😊
It's like MGK never heard & this is showing my age, but it is like he never heard Number Twelve Looks Like You, Dillinger Escape Plan, Psyopus or even Between The Buried and Me. Also Tim Mctague from everybody's favorite Underoath or anybody from Everytime I Die & Norma Jean are great.
It hurts that people actually think Nirvana is better than Foo Fighters. I understand composition isn’t everything, but Foo Fighters objectively does pretty much everything better.
Let me say, I like your work. I'm old so I'm guessing your 19 or 20 Mas o Menos... and I would have completely agreed with you about Nirvana when I was your age in the 90s. Kurt came off as a crybaby in interviews and his death sucks but I was so happy I wasn't gonna have to hear Unplugged part 2. Because after that damn performance, my best friends played that tape "again and again and again and again!". But I like crap guitar playing, I always have. And I think crap guitar can be miles more enjoyable than incredible talent. For example, Sex Pistols compared to Emerson, Lake and Palmer. Just me personally. I did grow up with documented learning disabilities so I'm not trying to say my opinions are facts. But I enjoy yout work man. Do you have a band? Or videos of you jammin, I see the amp? Would love to hear. Keep up the great work. I've fallen behind since I work many hours, have a mortgage, and old af, etc so your videos are definitely informative to me.
I remember my friend showing me the Knives and Pens video when I was 12 and thinking the scene where blood gets poured all over Andy was scary...a few months later I was into it 😂
I'm 30 and a former hardcore kid. I was watching that same herman li video and the next day I get recommended this. Great vid. Sometimes TH-cam is cool.
@@josephindorf759 I never went to mayhem unfortunately. But that was kinda my point haha, he couldn’t even last at a warped pit. To be fair when August Burns red played white washed at 2015 warped It got pretty crazy haha. Maybe he could last in a pierce the veil pit lmaoo
He says Kurt didn’t care… Kurt talked about wanted to learn how to play more technically and even in In Utero stepped out of his comfort zone and started actually playing more advanced songs compared to Nevermind.
Kurt never claimed to be SRV...he was a great melody writer, Dave Grohl was a monster on drums and Krist wrote great bass hooks and tags so it came together great. They didn't want Mick Mars playing lead.
I agree 100%. When I was in middle school (2006-2008). I started listening to BMTH. Pray for plagues is what made me put down guitar after 4 years of playing and start doing vocals. Because I found out I had more passion for vocals than guitar and I didn’t wanna do both because I realized I didn’t really like playing guitar lol. MGK’s music is so fucking lazy and hollow. He’s like 30 something and still has no clue what he wants to be when he grows up.
I just loved every aspect of this video my dude lol knives and pens also turned me emo and I’m still embracing it lol just in more subtler ways like occasionally wearing eyeliner and making the songs lol As a guitar player, my duuuude you had me glued on the screen with all these tidbits man, I absolutely despise the shit MGK says here man. Because I’m self taught and love the darn piece of wood and still to this day, 11 years strong only have an acoustic guitar; I love to play some black dahlia or lamb of god or ABR on it ya know? Fuck MGK and his perspective, Herman god bless him but he’s too nice. Lmao
I'm not into emo music I'm a blues rock country folk fan but knives and pins was a good song ran across it years ago. Idk what makes emo music emo though.
MGK is in that group of people who just says a bunch of random shit trying to sound smart, but really when anyone with a brain cell takes the time to listen to what he is saying, they understand, he isn’t saying jack shit.
My ex cheated on me multiple times and she put the contact names of these people as people in her family on her phone so I wouldn't suspect anything. She also physically and mentally abused and manipulated me constantly. Her all-time favorite artist was MGK and before me she had no idea good music existed and to her MGK was punk before I turned her to other things. All this to say - I realize now who MGK makes music for and why the hell he even has a fan base.. LOL
Tbf, Dave Grohl (the only one who despite not being able to read sheet music could read guitar and drum tabs and had at least some basic knowledge of music theory) is a really good musician.
I respect that. Its like i said with saltine crackers. I dont hate saltine crackers, and i understand why people would eat them. It's not bad, its catchy... its fun. I just don't like his takes, and I feel like hes over hyped mainly.
@@FXKNate Yes, it was a good comparison. I think people (online) sometimes have a hard time dealing with the fact that you can like things that are not good and that it is okay for people to not enjoy what you do enjoy. When you say ''I don't like saltine crackers'' it would be weird if people got really mad and started screaming at you about how you are a hater for not liking them crackers, but when it comes to subjects like these people lose their minds. I think the problem is that people tie a large part of their identity to these subjects, so to them it will feel like you are attacking who they are. Their identity. I think you tried to take this into account by making self-deprecating jokes, but the video still seems to still have hit a nerve with some.
@@wowjack8944 yeah, I really tried to be charitable to MGK. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, didn’t go for low blows, I acknowledged that even if I think the music sucks doesn’t mean it’s bad. I was more critiquing the use of the word “good” more than anything. And I hear you on the liking bad music thing. Had I known this vid would get so much back lash I would’ve pointed out one of my favorite songs ever “stick stickly” by attack attack… is like the worst song ever. But I love it. Like we can be reasonable out how good things are, regardless if we like it or not. Kinda like shitty pizza, maybe it’s greasy and the dough is mediocre but idk it’s still good to me. I’ve also noticed since no one can actually come at me with rebuttals other than “your a hater blah blah blah” it shows they’re just having an emotional reaction, not a logical one
@@FXKNate Yes, I agree with everything you said. I guess the reason they react that way is probably because most people who listen to music don't really know much about music theory (me included), which makes it impossible to argue the objectivity of the quality of the music, so emotional reactions are the only thing they can resort to. Subscribed btw.
@@wowjack8944 hey thanks for subbing! I also think people are typically used to extremely biased critiques at MGK, so now that I’ve probably given the most honest and nuanced criticism of him (Atleast that I’ve seen) they don’t know how to respond so they get emotional and call me a hater
Completely agree on Nirvana. Same as the Beatles. For someone that is old enough to remember when the 'grunge era' occurred it is good to see someone younger agree with that. It is so weird to see the music I grew up on, that made me a reject, be such a huge deal now.
Mgk still pretending he can’t afford to be taught anything is what bugs me about him. He always pretended he was this poor starving artist when he was making thousands of not millions
I really think the grunge scene was much like you explained. Very not caring how they sounded, just the scene in general was relaxed and lazy and thats why people liked it so much! Everytime you hear a song from nirvana live it aounds different and i think that scene in general was there for that. Comparing them to foo fighters also doesnt make sense to me because to me personally foo fighters isnt a grunge bad meaning they obviously put more time, effort and caring into their songs in general. As for MGK he should have atuck with rap 🤣🤷🏻♀️
That is false. Nirvana is taken too much as a reference for grunge, but there were other bands that, in my opinion, crystallized what grunge is much better. The quintessence of grunge is, in my opinion, Pearl Jam, not Nirvana. Nirvana was the most famous, nothing more. Bands like Pearl Jam, Soundgarden or Alice in Chains had a very careful and studied sound. And, in fact, Nirvana also took great care of their sound, much more than people think. That Nirvana sounds different in each of their live shows... that happens to all musicians, of all genres.
I like both and don't think there's too many similarities in all honesty. Obviously Periphery is inspired by them heavily but musically they're very different
Knives and Pens was also my catalyst of becoming emo. I was well on the way but it accelerated the process
Haha yeah i feel the same, i was probably destined for it regardless....
You dont become emo youre born emo.
@@K2kGaming13 that was the cringiest thing ive read all day, i love you
Same.
This comment iS MEEEE
It’s okay to not be a great player if you write great songs. Kurt Cobain was not technically a good guitarist but he wrote and played guitar parts that were perfect in the context of his music. When I played guitar in the ‘90’s I was lucky to be learning in the age of grunge and pop punk which were simple for a beginner. Had I been learning a decade earlier I’d probably have been too intimidated by the solos to even attempt to play popular songs.
Billy Corgan is a good example of that, too.
I'd argue that it had more to do with his vocal melodies and vocal tone than his guitar parts. I still don't understand the hype overall though and I wish people would stop acting like he was anything more than a human being just like the rest of us.
@@vosoryan my point is that he played the right guitar parts to complement those vocal melodies. His guitar playing was rudimentary but it fit with the raw nature of the songs. I certainly don’t believe he was anything other than human but he had an extraordinary talent for expressing his human experience with others through music.
I think Kurt was a good guitarist in like the way he thought out of the box, he didn't just use basic chords yknow, on a lot of Nirvana songs you'll hear some dissonance or weird scales that ended up being there by chance bcs he didn't want to just do something basic. I think there's two ways of innovating, knowing enough what you're doing to avoid clichés or not giving a shit enough to avoid clichés
@@UncleWintersDisdain. Billy Corgan is a pretty good guitar player.
The appeal of Nirvana from someone who was a teenager at the time was the energy and emotion. They tapped into the existential angst of late Gen X who were crushed by the weight of expectations of our boomer parents and the constant threat of nuclear annihilation.
Exactly
Exactly. It's not about technical they are. It's about the time they were a band and how they impacted young American that were sick of their boomer parents and fucking sex, drugs and rock n roll. Just like I stopped listening to metallica because I found out about my chemical romance, fall out boy and many many other bands in high school. Their lyrics and music was speaking to me than a song made in the fucking 80s about doing cocaine.
The saltine cracker analogy 💀💀
crafting analogies is one of my most refined skills
I was thinking they’re good but damn they get dry lol
Most guitarists are self taught - and up until recently, we didnt have the internet.
personally im self taught, i went to lessons for a few weeks but i got so much better once i taught myself
@@FXKNate yeah bro✌️
I would have loved to have gotten lessons, but having to use your initiative, and to get industrious to find ways to keDn...
happen, helps you to really take on the responsibility of learning.
You know the buck stops with, and if you don't get proactive, creative and tenacious in finding ways tit learn...
@@FXKNate we don't have music classess here 🥲 only youtube vedeo s and most of them are just thumbnail s 🗿
Up until recently? I was on ultimate guitar all the time over 10 years ago. That’s how I learned most songs
@@drummergurl99 yeah I was confused by that because I started learning bass nearly 20 years ago and I definitely used the internet lol it was a lawless land, but there were resources
The difference between MGK and Cobain is That Kurt actually wrote great songs.
Although Kurt wasn’t technical with the guitar he was a great song writer. If he was not we wouldn’t sing and listen to his songs and even learn them on guitar still this day . Kurt wanted to write catchy songs and he achieved it .
Exactly why we aren't rocking Emerson, Lake and Palmer and Yes so much today as well :^)
@@erikmolnar6585 King Crimson is better than ELP
@Billy Napalm I think the Monkee's are better than the Beatles :^) I guess we can agree that opinions are subjective. But I'm sure I agree with you since ELP are a boring experience for me
Nonono, Nirvana is terrible because their music isn't complicated. Only complicated music is worthy.
I think people like Juice WRLD and Poorstacy would have been the (much better) face of this weird mainstream returns to alternative like it wasn’t still cool the past decade. They both were working with Travis Barker and slowly bringing pop punk and other guitar genres into their sound. It would have been interesting to see and hear what would’ve come from that
Mhm, Juice WRLD was actually a big fan of Ronnie Radke. He also like Bullet For My Valentine and Black Veil Brides and stuff
PoorStacy slaps
I really hope your channel grows. Love your takes and how you don't take anything too seriously. Good content!
Thank you bro!
"The saltine crackers of music" HOLY FUCK AHAHAHAHA. Absolute pure gold 😂😂
Wow i sure do like to watch the recovering emo
I am really starting to like this channel more and more, I am lucky I found it
Also, I appreciate this video a lot, I feel like a lot of people who try to criticize MGK just say the same thing over and over again, you actually brought up good points (Not an MGK fan, don't get me wrong)
Thanks so much, i am lucky you're here!
this video randomly came up to me and it's well written and funny in the right moments just *chefs kiss*
thanks so much :)
I think what made me in my "emo phase" was (mainly) motionless in white, 2000s nu-metal music, and horror movies, I don't if I grew out of it..... probably not 😂😂😂
Tom Delonge is the best example of being medicore at guitar, while being self-aware about it, and sometimes self deprecating.
But I bet you can hear that intro riff to Whats my age again? ...in your YYYEAD right now.
The thing he seems to not get is that working to be as skilled as possible at guitar does not diminish your creativity and make you robot without feeling, it gives you a depth of understanding and technical skill to be able to take your creative vision and make it a reality. If he actually used his resources to get lessons from a good teacher and continued workhard at it he could likely become a pretty competent guitarist.
You one of my fave TH-camrs to watch. Glad I found this channel
thx dude :>
Love FIR!!! You have presented a very interesting argument. Also, your examples made me laugh out loud. :)
Hey, so glad you’ve been enjoying the content lately
Not the photo of Ashley Purdy at 0:27 😂
I wasn't ready for the Ashley Purdy jump scare
Honestly, I feel like if someone’s dedicated enough they could learn guitar if they wanted to.
Tobias Forge learning guitar from listening to vinyls and doing it by ear. I mean, now you’ve got all these accessible things online, tabs/lessons/guides etc.
binge watching your videos at almost 2am instead of going to sleep lord help me 🥲
haha ur awesome!
“People are starving”
*inserts nikocado*
🤣🤣🤣 dude you kill me, the green day and blink 182 inserts got me also 🤣☠️
Lmfaooo the “yes I’m gatekeeping FU” & Herman “ I see why ppl hate him now , it makes sense!“ and ur dream 😂... ur funny
I rarely comment on videos, but I find myself wanting to comment on all of your videos! Unfortunately, I haven't had the pleasure of having a dream about Attack Attack! but, I did see them at warped tour once! Love your content 😊
This man just said fuck TH-cam’s algorithm imma say what I want
Knives and Pens was released on my 11th birthday, and the first emo song I ever heard
It's like MGK never heard & this is showing my age, but it is like he never heard Number Twelve Looks Like You, Dillinger Escape Plan, Psyopus or even Between The Buried and Me. Also Tim Mctague from everybody's favorite Underoath or anybody from Everytime I Die & Norma Jean are great.
i felt validated when you said foo fighters is better than nirvana
It hurts that people actually think Nirvana is better than Foo Fighters. I understand composition isn’t everything, but Foo Fighters objectively does pretty much everything better.
Yeah true that, Kurt's passing was a good thing for music, it's refreshing to know others get it and agree
Nirvana didn’t have the time to be better than Foo Fighters. Anyone who says Nirvana is better is wrong.
Stank face is pretty universal among musicians of all styles.
I love Tim Henson style especially with the nylon strings, i love the sound of the classical almost Spanish style
I still remember the moment i wanted to look like Andy, and it was in fact during the knives and pens music video
that video was emo propaganda to convert the youth
@@FXKNate They definitely did it right
Let me say, I like your work. I'm old so I'm guessing your 19 or 20 Mas o Menos... and I would have completely agreed with you about Nirvana when I was your age in the 90s. Kurt came off as a crybaby in interviews and his death sucks but I was so happy I wasn't gonna have to hear Unplugged part 2. Because after that damn performance, my best friends played that tape "again and again and again and again!". But I like crap guitar playing, I always have. And I think crap guitar can be miles more enjoyable than incredible talent. For example, Sex Pistols compared to Emerson, Lake and Palmer. Just me personally. I did grow up with documented learning disabilities so I'm not trying to say my opinions are facts. But I enjoy yout work man. Do you have a band? Or videos of you jammin, I see the amp? Would love to hear. Keep up the great work. I've fallen behind since I work many hours, have a mortgage, and old af, etc so your videos are definitely informative to me.
broooo, the knives and pens music video made me emo too lol and my younger sister 🖤
Well I mean, he did get dissed so hard that he changed music genres.
bro released a rap album after the diss though
I remember my friend showing me the Knives and Pens video when I was 12 and thinking the scene where blood gets poured all over Andy was scary...a few months later I was into it 😂
Mikasa is probably one of my favorite metal songs of all time.
Did anyone else have a random obsession with the band "get scared" in the early 2000s
god yes. was soooo obsessed
“No crumbs” 😂
Sponge 'Rotting Pinata' was the best grunge album of the 90s.
I'm 30 and a former hardcore kid. I was watching that same herman li video and the next day I get recommended this. Great vid. Sometimes TH-cam is cool.
Thank you. MGK wouldn’t last 10 seconds in the pit at warped LOL. He can stay on the side and make fun of everyone’s shoes
@@FXKNate the pits at warped were tame lol, try the rockstar mayhem fests from 2011-2014
@@FXKNate yeah guy wouldn't last in a chiodos pit. Wall of death would kill him lmao
@@josephindorf759 I never went to mayhem unfortunately. But that was kinda my point haha, he couldn’t even last at a warped pit. To be fair when August Burns red played white washed at 2015 warped It got pretty crazy haha. Maybe he could last in a pierce the veil pit lmaoo
@@FXKNate lmao I gotcha now lol. Yeah man imagine him in a knocked loose pit 😂😂😂
It's still kinda cool he's bringing back pop punk. It's not good pop punk, but it's something
i mean It's better than another mumble rap sound cloud dork!
I saw him live.. love him. I don’t know about guitars but he puts on a good show with one.
thats fair! as long as you like it thats all that matters
He says Kurt didn’t care… Kurt talked about wanted to learn how to play more technically and even in In Utero stepped out of his comfort zone and started actually playing more advanced songs compared to Nevermind.
From one Recovering Emo to the next, Thank YOU for the line “do you have an opinion on saltine crackers?” 😂😂😂💀
i fucking love veil of maya i saw them live a couple years ago with DGD and Polyphia
Saltine crackers are good, but cheese crackers are divine, i would totally eat them every day.
watching this video again, convinced me to use my rent money to buy a guitar 🖤
Kurt never claimed to be SRV...he was a great melody writer, Dave Grohl was a monster on drums and Krist wrote great bass hooks and tags so it came together great. They didn't want Mick Mars playing lead.
"Did you not have the internet?"
Depends on how poor his family was. It's possible they couldn't afford the monthly bill for that.
Love youre content bro u going places buddy
7:22 "let the man rest" 😂
This is the funniest fucking shit I’ve watched all day 😂
(I am so sorry I’m commenting so much btw lmao)
ur good lol! love getting as many comments as possible lol
1:44 smart dude. True facts. ☺️💥💯
All that money and he still couldn't look up Lindsey Buckingham playing guitar
That saltine cracker comparison was perfect 😂
the jumpscare at 0:25 tho
I don't mind MGK. I can listen to his music. But yea.... I only really even looked into it because of Travis Barker. He makes it worth it.
Love the maxmofo cameo
MGK: I’m so f**king good at guitar
Kirk Hammett: I’m probably the only person to get away with randomly using a wah pedal
Lmao one of my favorite guitarists, Misha Mansoor, unbelievably talented, every interview he does he says "i'm not that good to be honest" LOL
@@FXKNate that’s the same way James (Metallica’s rhythm guitarist) sees everyone in Metallica
I agree 100%. When I was in middle school (2006-2008). I started listening to BMTH. Pray for plagues is what made me put down guitar after 4 years of playing and start doing vocals. Because I found out I had more passion for vocals than guitar and I didn’t wanna do both because I realized I didn’t really like playing guitar lol. MGK’s music is so fucking lazy and hollow. He’s like 30 something and still has no clue what he wants to be when he grows up.
I just loved every aspect of this video my dude lol knives and pens also turned me emo and I’m still embracing it lol just in more subtler ways like occasionally wearing eyeliner and making the songs lol
As a guitar player, my duuuude you had me glued on the screen with all these tidbits man, I absolutely despise the shit MGK says here man. Because I’m self taught and love the darn piece of wood and still to this day, 11 years strong only have an acoustic guitar; I love to play some black dahlia or lamb of god or ABR on it ya know? Fuck MGK and his perspective, Herman god bless him but he’s too nice. Lmao
I'm not into emo music I'm a blues rock country folk fan but knives and pins was a good song ran across it years ago. Idk what makes emo music emo though.
ehhh theres two definitions. theres a style of emo and there's the genre of emo music. it's complicated lol
Gotta say Alexi Laiho is the best guitarist of our generation bro! RIP WILDCHILD!!!
He was incredible, such a shame…
@@madiCOB I know it still hurts! RIP WILDCHILD! COBHC FOREVER!
MGK is in that group of people who just says a bunch of random shit trying to sound smart, but really when anyone with a brain cell takes the time to listen to what he is saying, they understand, he isn’t saying jack shit.
My ex cheated on me multiple times and she put the contact names of these people as people in her family on her phone so I wouldn't suspect anything. She also physically and mentally abused and manipulated me constantly. Her all-time favorite artist was MGK and before me she had no idea good music existed and to her MGK was punk before I turned her to other things. All this to say - I realize now who MGK makes music for and why the hell he even has a fan base.. LOL
Tbf, Dave Grohl (the only one who despite not being able to read sheet music could read guitar and drum tabs and had at least some basic knowledge of music theory) is a really good musician.
I love Dave Grohl!
I know MGK is not that good, but I like his music.
I respect that. Its like i said with saltine crackers. I dont hate saltine crackers, and i understand why people would eat them. It's not bad, its catchy... its fun. I just don't like his takes, and I feel like hes over hyped mainly.
@@FXKNate Yes, it was a good comparison. I think people (online) sometimes have a hard time dealing with the fact that you can like things that are not good and that it is okay for people to not enjoy what you do enjoy. When you say ''I don't like saltine crackers'' it would be weird if people got really mad and started screaming at you about how you are a hater for not liking them crackers, but when it comes to subjects like these people lose their minds. I think the problem is that people tie a large part of their identity to these subjects, so to them it will feel like you are attacking who they are. Their identity.
I think you tried to take this into account by making self-deprecating jokes, but the video still seems to still have hit a nerve with some.
@@wowjack8944 yeah, I really tried to be charitable to MGK. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, didn’t go for low blows, I acknowledged that even if I think the music sucks doesn’t mean it’s bad. I was more critiquing the use of the word “good” more than anything.
And I hear you on the liking bad music thing. Had I known this vid would get so much back lash I would’ve pointed out one of my favorite songs ever “stick stickly” by attack attack… is like the worst song ever. But I love it. Like we can be reasonable out how good things are, regardless if we like it or not. Kinda like shitty pizza, maybe it’s greasy and the dough is mediocre but idk it’s still good to me.
I’ve also noticed since no one can actually come at me with rebuttals other than “your a hater blah blah blah” it shows they’re just having an emotional reaction, not a logical one
@@FXKNate Yes, I agree with everything you said.
I guess the reason they react that way is probably because most people who listen to music don't really know much about music theory (me included), which makes it impossible to argue the objectivity of the quality of the music, so emotional reactions are the only thing they can resort to.
Subscribed btw.
@@wowjack8944 hey thanks for subbing!
I also think people are typically used to extremely biased critiques at MGK, so now that I’ve probably given the most honest and nuanced criticism of him (Atleast that I’ve seen) they don’t know how to respond so they get emotional and call me a hater
I fuck with you bro. Keep it up
At least 200k Klicks of The escape the fate (Ronnie era) and falling in reverse, are mine over the last 15 years 🤣🤣
i love how u said everything ive wanted to say abt mgk since he made a cover of aerials by soad
edit: oh and abt slipknot too lol
not the fcking demon slayer comment lmfaooooooo!!!!!
My emo pipeline was
Busted/McFly -> Green Day -> AFI
At least it went well for Schecter
Mark Okubo Hype lesgo
MGK sucked at HipHop and now he sucks at punk rock
death inside by MMF sounds crazy lemme pyo
nice to meet someone else who has a similar opinion of Nirvana to me
As a nirvana fan yeah I can kinda agree there's better bands like Soundgarden, smashing pumpkins, Alice in chains and the Melvin's
Nate Saltine crackers are my fav snack ima have to ask you to retract your audacity
I feel old i remember when Emo's broke off from Goths to become own alt culture 😢😂
Can you make that Nirvana video? I would love to hear that!
Completely agree on Nirvana. Same as the Beatles. For someone that is old enough to remember when the 'grunge era' occurred it is good to see someone younger agree with that.
It is so weird to see the music I grew up on, that made me a reject, be such a huge deal now.
Have you reviewed parkway drive
How could one compare MGK to Kurt Fucking Cobain💀
Mgk still pretending he can’t afford to be taught anything is what bugs me about him. He always pretended he was this poor starving artist when he was making thousands of not millions
And Kurt was different he didn’t play terribly because he didn’t feel bad that day he did it because he knew no one would notice and he didn’t care
Just saying man people who work at subway are considered artists when making a sammich
why does mgk talk like the only good art is made from suffering,,, just bc it's not sad doesn't mean it doesn't have feeling
I really think the grunge scene was much like you explained. Very not caring how they sounded, just the scene in general was relaxed and lazy and thats why people liked it so much! Everytime you hear a song from nirvana live it aounds different and i think that scene in general was there for that. Comparing them to foo fighters also doesnt make sense to me because to me personally foo fighters isnt a grunge bad meaning they obviously put more time, effort and caring into their songs in general. As for MGK he should have atuck with rap 🤣🤷🏻♀️
That is false.
Nirvana is taken too much as a reference for grunge, but there were other bands that, in my opinion, crystallized what grunge is much better. The quintessence of grunge is, in my opinion, Pearl Jam, not Nirvana. Nirvana was the most famous, nothing more.
Bands like Pearl Jam, Soundgarden or Alice in Chains had a very careful and studied sound.
And, in fact, Nirvana also took great care of their sound, much more than people think.
That Nirvana sounds different in each of their live shows... that happens to all musicians, of all genres.
This dude like a cooler Evan peters tbh
1:11 didnt it turn all of us emo? sure as hell did for me
Never stop making videos
Hopefully I won’t have to lol
Him comparing saltines to mgk is just gold 😂
Sophie Lloyd is his actual guitar player and she CAN play. But yeah, I've always thought she deserves better than mgk
Yeah she seems great!
I seriously believe if MGK didn’t have Travis Barker as a drummer then he wouldn’t have had AS MUCH attention as an artist
1:42 HAHA ME ASF
1:40 this man is spitting nothing but the truth
I found this channel today and I’m honestly baffled how you don’t have like 500k + subs the editing and ur charisma is great 😆🫶
thanks so much!!
My guy sampled one of the greatest punk songs of all time and literally did nothing new with it, just copied and pasted it
Meshuggah is Cheerios.
Periphery is GreatValue Toasted O's.
I like both and don't think there's too many similarities in all honesty. Obviously Periphery is inspired by them heavily but musically they're very different