NEJE Master 2 20W desktop Laser Engraver and Cutter

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  • @N2AIE
    @N2AIE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Banggood sent me the replacement Laser and all works now...Thanks for your videos..please do more videos on settings for engraving vs. carving and cutting

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice to hear, i just playing with my new cnc ortur aufero those days, but god all this codes i see for the first time 😉

  • @Engineerboy100
    @Engineerboy100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the machine I just ordered, it's gonna take a bit for me to learn the different software but I can't wait to get my hands on it and get started.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great, neje software is far the simpliest to operate and offer almost everything you need.

  • @davesloansnakehunter
    @davesloansnakehunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, received by box yesterday. I have opened the box. Yesterday i couldn't access the internet to download my software. also have Benson Pace Rotary Jig along with my 3500mw Master 2. Hope to get somewhere today if I can get my internet to working. This looks like a lot of fun.

  • @Javidesu1999
    @Javidesu1999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi! Can the machine cut acrylic of 2mm??

  • @TypicalSwede
    @TypicalSwede 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're computer brings me back to the early 2000 COD 2 and Command & Conquer XD Love the video thanks! I have just ordered 30W myself. Will definitely do some videos with it.
    Cheers

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hah, the best games ever, cod2 generals and settlers 4 still playing them time to time, new one wasn't that good 😅

    • @TypicalSwede
      @TypicalSwede 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 yeah awesome games! Seeing those icons really brings me back when we had "lan" at home with the Boys! 👌😁

  • @valikkoval1438
    @valikkoval1438 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Эту штуку можно использовать для создания протравливаемых надписей на металле. Сначала нанести почистить от масел и жиров, нанести органический защитный слой (например растворенную в спирте канифоль для пайки в перемешку с краской от чёрного спиртового маркера) потом выжечь лазером протравливаемые места, после чего капнуть на поверхность хлорное железо или нечто такое, или водно-солевой расствор а потом электролизом немного протравить.
    Кстати таким образом в принципе можно и произвести меднение поверхности, или меднение сделать после протравки, чтоб медь лучше проникла в получившуюся протравленную поверхность.

  • @romainlimkoun8989
    @romainlimkoun8989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are extremely helpful, i hope these companies retribute you in some way for your work. I found all the information i needed on your channel and i can buy with confidence now.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks, yup neje deliver me free samples + if you buy from the link into video description i got some commission. Just today i reaceived neje plus to review 😉

  • @isidoromaich7226
    @isidoromaich7226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The question at 4:21 and then... 14:50 😅👍
    All the information was well explained. Neje needs to move to 32bits sometime soon

  • @pinkcorner4006
    @pinkcorner4006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, can i make stamps from rubber or silicone ? Maybe with another material ? Thanks !

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't try yet but get lot of question on this topic, i need to buy some testing material, you got any suggest?

  • @RAZREXE
    @RAZREXE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I shared it with my friend who just got her neje master 2 for wood work

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, there are more videos about neje on my channel, welcome to see them

  • @acousticphonespeakers8804
    @acousticphonespeakers8804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video thanks. However find support for this Laser really poor so finding this was great but doesn't solve my problem. Our biggest issue is bringing in artwork saved in dxf format and the Neje software is unable to open the file or brings in only parts of the file. I prepare my drawings in Illustrator, save as dxf to bring into Neje software. We are having a nightmare. Thought this was going to be simple. Assuming it's human error but have no idea what is wrong. We have run our own CNC router for years and can't believe we're stumped with this. Any pointers please or a route to find real support from the Neje manufacturers. Again thanks for your video.

    • @Wib0
      @Wib0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amateurs.

  • @waynesaeger9316
    @waynesaeger9316 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What setting affects the total job time the most? I have a test job that is 7 inches by 10 inches that is at 10ms burn time and 50% power and will probably take 10 hours. That is 1/3 the total size this can use so I must have something set too high, but not sure what.

  • @Asateer99
    @Asateer99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Nice vid and helpful. I would ask if it can cut a vinyl sheets thank you

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      depend on colour and thickness, but generally plastics, vinils and stuff like that is quite hard to cut with a laser, maybe dark colours and up to few mm

  • @vincenzo-modica
    @vincenzo-modica 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi did this machine is able to cut 3mm wood?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes 20w can cut to about 4mm with few passes, but check my latesg neje video about neje max 30w, i will also make video about all neje laser moduls from 2,5w to 40w...

  • @ronald44181000
    @ronald44181000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like a lot of other people, like yourself I tried to use Lightburn and it is still a disaster. If you have figured it out, it would be helpful to a lot of us if you could post exactly what it is that you did to get it to work. I hate to think that I have bought a $400 Boat Anchor.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's the problem?

  • @alirehman6937
    @alirehman6937 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you cut 2mm white acrylic through this machine?

  • @Sshavonne
    @Sshavonne ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I cut through 1/8 basswood sheets with this laser/engraver?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  ปีที่แล้ว

      It should cut yes also 20w laser but anyway take an a4630 or a40640 for faster cut in a single or dual pass.

  • @FizeDeuBom
    @FizeDeuBom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi, can you tell me if this machine engraves on thin stainless steel plate with 2 to 3 millimeters

  • @blacksmokie1
    @blacksmokie1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi
    Very useful video. Managed to set mine up with your help. After a few burns I tried a simple one of the pre set pictures, it got half way thru burning and it seemed to get stuck . Laser was still on but x and y were not moving. Can you advise
    Thank you

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check the cables for booth y motors and try to move with hand so you'll be sure wheels running smooth and there's no dirt on the rails.

  • @lechiffre5452
    @lechiffre5452 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello. What were your settings to cut out the airplane and what material did you use? Thanks a lot!

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      3mm soft plywood settings was 100laser power and about 5-10ms (about 5mm/s) burning time

    • @lechiffre5452
      @lechiffre5452 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 Thanks! And how many passes?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lechiffre5452 i don't remember i think 3-5 but 30w can cut in 2 pass.

  • @bunyaminakyol9413
    @bunyaminakyol9413 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi i have buy the same neje master 2 20 w but the laser istn good power to even do on wood.. my settings laser power 100 and burning time little bit lower .. do i something wrong or just the machine broke..

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm i don't know, try change the burning time, bigger burning time make bigger effect but work slowly, but also with 10ms burning time it must leave traces on wood, also check focus, if focus not set perfectly there will be pure effect.

  • @DigoWood
    @DigoWood 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got mine and I'm yet to try it. I will be engraving a logo and text on walnut, maple, ash...hard woods. From your experience what would be a good power/speed setting? Hvala

  • @TheWindGinProject
    @TheWindGinProject 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TinC33: Thank You! Do you believe it would be possible to increase the travel of one of the axis to lets say 2 or 3 feet?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No with that design, check for the ortur 2 than if you need bigger working area.

    • @TheWindGinProject
      @TheWindGinProject 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 Thanks! 3 Subs from me. Do you believe the ORTUR Laser Master 2 - 20w would cut 5mm plywood? I want to use DXF files coming from a Windows 10 computer.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheWindGinProject it may cut but depend on material, soft plywood can be cutted with air assist, but need to cut slow and make few passes, but hard/heavy plywood can't be cutted, for that you'll need more expencive co2 laser cutter.

    • @TheWindGinProject
      @TheWindGinProject 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 Thank You, Your answer makes me feel that even the soft plywood shown in the photos need air assist. Can you offer any links to a similar size that would be better for cutting thin wood of 5mm thick? Sorry to ask another question but now I'm thinking the 20w lasers are not powerful enough even though they advertise them as being able to do it. Your real experience with these lasers is why I asked you and I am very happy that I did. :-)

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheWindGinProject something like that, they'r become really cheap.
      www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=co2+laser&_sacat=0&_sop=15

  • @joe_fabricator
    @joe_fabricator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there. Hoping for some input. I bought the Master 2 - 20 watt unit from a friend yesterday and more or less got it up and running. I've downloaded Lightburn as it's what I use in my day job, and love it. My Y axiz seems off as the dimension of the shape when etched is larger than the actual drawn. Any ideas?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zry to install new firmware using neje software, otherwise into lightburn change firmaware settings "Y motor steps per mm"

    • @joe_fabricator
      @joe_fabricator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 I changed the Y motor steps per mm. Seems to have fixed it. Thank you for your fast and helpful response.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joe_fabricator if you update firmware all the values will go te default and it should work also.

    • @joe_fabricator
      @joe_fabricator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 I'll give that a try if needed. So far, it's working :-). Thank you for your help.

  • @leegraves8878
    @leegraves8878 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the laser last more than a week I bought an off brand engraver and it burned up two lasers? Does it have a problem staying upright when the laser is at the end of the rail?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it's steel stable also when it's on end of rails, you can see vibration test into my ortur master video, all ghe lasers still works to me but honestly i don't use them too often.

  • @omerargon6477
    @omerargon6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i ordered neje 2 20w but they send me neje 20w my question is how many mm the work place for neje 2 20w ? for example in your video from 14:00 minute you engraving big picture how big is that or how many mm all size of picture ? thank you

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      neje 2 and neje 2s got working area 170x170mm only neje 1 (not availible anymore) got working area 150x150mm and got no wifi.

  • @eveli4ko
    @eveli4ko 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Большое спасибо за видео! Подскажи пожалуйста. Где можно увидеть поближе пробники рисунков с настройками лазера которые видно на столе в видео. Только распаковал, совсем не понимаю где какие цифры выбирать

  • @rodrigo723
    @rodrigo723 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, could you tell us the config Power and Time ms have you used for print the Tiger, the picture on wood, and the config to print on metal. Tks

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't remember but for engraving usualy set to about 5-10ms and 20-40% laser power, best way is to make some test before real work.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For metal engrave 100% laser power and slow speed so more ms

  • @annaridh
    @annaridh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi TinC33...I am thinking to get myself a laser cutter. Can you help me with which is the affordable neje cutter that i should buy? I am looking for a cutter and engraver that can cut through and engrave acrylic which is about 3mm.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If working area 170x170mm is enough for you take neje 2S and if you need for acrylic i would choose 30W for wood engrave you can still buy another 2,5w laser for about 30$.
      Please buy from some of mine links 😉

    • @annaridh
      @annaridh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 I don't think required big space just enough to engrave & cut acrylic for keychain sizes. So which is model would you recommend?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@annaridh in that case neje 2S 30 or 40w it's size is really handy to work on table.

    • @annaridh
      @annaridh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 great thanks so much. It's really helpful.

  • @muharremkayar7617
    @muharremkayar7617 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am using the lightburn 09.18 program, but it is drawing outside of my drawing area, there is a sound, how it is adjusted from my machine, it is doing it to the place you specify.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uh i don't know i only using lightburn for a test, check on lightburn form they got good support as i see.

  • @hendrikwaridjan3517
    @hendrikwaridjan3517 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi sir, I got a NEJE Master 2 Laser Engraver. But don't have a diver. Where can i get a driver for this machine.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check on neje wiki there's everything you need, drivers, softwares...

  • @madecountrycolombia
    @madecountrycolombia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hola costo para Colombia y me gustaría saber cuántos mililitros de profundidad marca.

  • @danbarb9728
    @danbarb9728 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can those desktop engravers use vector files like SVG? Because i have alot of them for my plotter machine. can it engrave anodized aluminum Type 3 like used on flashlights?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hm i don't know that file but i think lightburn should read them.

  • @j.m.7586
    @j.m.7586 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. Could you find the way for Lazer to follow the lines when cutting using Android app?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i don't remeber exatly because didn't work much with app but do you got to set pattern somewhere like fill or line to choose...

    • @j.m.7586
      @j.m.7586 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 thanks for your reply
      No, I couldn't find such an option to choose. All videos where Lazer follow the line are controlled by windows apps. Could you advise which app is easier to use.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@j.m.7586 deffinitely windows app is easier to operate, because you got bigger working area, on phone app everything is so small, for cad engraving you really may need windows app.
      Just instal driver and then open app.

    • @j.m.7586
      @j.m.7586 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 Windows app installed and bit upset as 3500 following the lines but once I instal stronger 20w head it stops working. Any advise?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@j.m.7586 do you use 3A power supply for 20w modul?

  • @zeroone6041
    @zeroone6041 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video please i have one question this laser can be end and i need buy other please i want understand ???

  • @KewAnon
    @KewAnon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so happy to find your video. I cannot make my new neje master 2 work with android phone or iPad, it keeps telling me the motor is resetting but nothing happens...neje support email is invalid.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you turn on the location on phone?

    • @KewAnon
      @KewAnon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 yes. And guess what, the neje website support email is invalid, I can’t even contact them!

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KewAnon hm i don't know what it could be, i got all models and every one work fine, except for lightburn need to change few settings on older modul, via pc work everything fine?

  • @roddybeltheus8966
    @roddybeltheus8966 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi i just bought a neje master 2/2s but i have an issue with the engravment i don't know how to set up it ti make good engravment can you help me please?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of problem you got?

  • @leiferickson3183
    @leiferickson3183 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would have been nice to see how well the pieces of the plane were cut and how much work it took to depanel.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it cut nice because i use 2.5mm balsa, balsa cut really nice and clean, all the parts just come out itself, some small one fall out during cutting because of air assist

  • @stylebris
    @stylebris 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting how much time does it take to engrave letters just a rough approximation. For example how long would it take to write John?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depend on size, To write JOHN that size like here on pc (font size 12-14) need a few seconds.

  • @mikepurdy1738
    @mikepurdy1738 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, can it be used straight from phone without first setting up on PC? I have chromebook so no windows. Thanks

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No you need a pc to upload image and set power and speed for the first time, then you can engrave same image with same settings offline without a pc. But everything can do also with a smartphone.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry didn't read about phone, yes you can use straight from the phone with all the functions.

  • @brembati
    @brembati 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can it work on non horizontal surface, for example to engrave on a wooden wall?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't try but i think yes, because movement protection work just on moving, if you mounf it on wall without moving it should work, otherwise controll into grbl software where protection is disabled

  • @BrundonC
    @BrundonC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just want a laser to engrave real estate logos on cutting boards. Which should I get? The 3500, 7000 or the 20w. I don’t need this for cutting, I only need speed and clarity of text. No photos, just words and maybe a logo here and there. Deep enough to last for as long as the cutting board is in service.

    • @BrundonC
      @BrundonC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My intent is to use this to make enough money to buy a CNC with an engraver. But I wanna get this off the ground now

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BrundonC then buy ortur laser because it's much faster and accurate for seriall work. Take 15 or 20w

    • @BrundonC
      @BrundonC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TinC33 thank you!!!

  • @ShevillMathers
    @ShevillMathers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to use Master 2 software on Master 1 machine? Is it possible to upgrade to a Master 2. Motherboard? Thank you for sharing your information about this unit. Greetings from Tasmania Australia.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure, check this video firstly, but after replace the motherboard, you'll need to change working area into firmware. Maybe be better choice to buy new model and got two machines 😉

  • @omygodtwo
    @omygodtwo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've only had my neje master 2 for about 2 weeks. How can I tell which board is in it? it has wifi and the red switch button. Is there a way to tell if its a 32 bit board?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check the motherboard there is white text wich shown is it neje 2 or neje 2 s, all neje 2 got wifi neje 2s is working on 32bit.

    • @omygodtwo
      @omygodtwo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks I'll have a look.

  • @michelgug
    @michelgug 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Onde comprar?

  • @josemarioh4653
    @josemarioh4653 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, I using Neje's engraver machine(2s 20W).
    I'd like to know how to increase the imprint output size.
    I know instrumentally elongating the profile of the X and Y axes.
    but, I don't know how to modify the firmware.
    Please help me.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you don't need to change firmware, just use lightburn and set bigger working area.

    • @josemarioh4653
      @josemarioh4653 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 Thank you. Your advice, your hints, are helpful

  • @SK-hv3zn
    @SK-hv3zn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this engraver has small working area. I need this machine for only logo burning. Can this machine burn 1cm x 6cm logo on a hardwood size of 25cm x 45cm.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ofcourse it could, it got engraving area 17x17cm, so if your logo all you need you can take also neje mini wich cost less then $150 and you can engrave on any size of wood, because you can put entire machine on surface you want to engrave, and when you figure it out the right power and speed settings, you could use them offline, so you don't even need a pc to burn logo on your products. Check the links into video description for order (i saw banggood sell mini fro only $130)

    • @SK-hv3zn
      @SK-hv3zn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 Thank you very much. I appreciate your help so much.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SK-hv3zn no problem, if you order from one of my links i'll get some %$ and price for you is the same

    • @SK-hv3zn
      @SK-hv3zn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TinC33 It is definitely worth checking. Thank you!

  • @KIRMIZILEVHAKL
    @KIRMIZILEVHAKL 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can motor be installed instead of laser for pcb

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No design of frame won't hold that force.

  • @ilyusishmukhametov4476
    @ilyusishmukhametov4476 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good day! nice detailed review! Have you tried using an engraver for applying gold or other colors of thermo foil?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No i didn't try yet, but i think it melt them too fast.

  • @geopoliticskenya
    @geopoliticskenya 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    can it cut an aluminum sheet of ordinary thickness?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No

  • @raidothman5174
    @raidothman5174 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi,can neje 2 carving/engraving anodized aluminium ?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it engrave anodized layer check my other neje videos i try to make few test.

  • @tomazflegar
    @tomazflegar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello, thanks for nice video. can you tell what is the highest size of material you can put under engraving machine that it can be engraved into and how deep it can engrave? is deepth engraving like 3d modules supported by this machine/software? can i cut 3d modules into rubber/foam? thanks

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can put something under the machine legs so you lift up the entire machine, so the height is somekind limitless, how deep it can engrave is depend on model you use, i just test 40w modul wich can cut 19mm spruce wood, so same engraving, rubber a bit harder but 1mm can engrave for sure wich should be enough for stamp, 3d moduls, neje software support .nc and .dxf files, but if you use lightburn it support many other files...

    • @tomazflegar
      @tomazflegar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 thanks for that. what about 3d molues in sponge like substance for different elements to fit in, like tools or gadgets?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomazflegar work also

  • @N2AIE
    @N2AIE 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    question...THE PWM input to laser how can I measure that between which pins?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try between negative. But i think you'll need an osciloscope to.measure that signal

    • @N2AIE
      @N2AIE 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 I have a scope, I'm assuming there is +/- 12vdc and the other 2 pins are the PWM. thanks, this new master 2 and laser (20w) is not coming up to power...it does modulate the light when ready to burn, but the max i can get is just enough to focus!

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@N2AIE hmm strange, try to contact neje maybe the laser is broken

  • @kunjusonu192
    @kunjusonu192 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can I add Bluetooth module in DIY CNC engraving MACHINE for Engraving using phone. As shown in the video(make a video about a DIY CNC engraving machine which able to make command by smartphone, please 🥺)

  • @christophmeidel905
    @christophmeidel905 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, I bought the neje Master 2 20w, but I can not get a black/grey picture in the program. How did you burn this large picture?
    My old insma 3500 is smaller but burns pictures in to wood or mirrors and I bought the neje Master because the laser place is 4times larger and I hoped it is faster than the old one.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is much better than insma, also much faster, but don't know why you can get black picture into program, where is the problem, you open file into neje sw and then?

    • @christophmeidel905
      @christophmeidel905 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      TinC33 thanks for your answere, so I open a picture an get 3 choices. But often I get only the two on the left side.
      When I make a picture like I do it all the time, I can not burn it with grey tones.
      Should I take a Spezial one? JPEG, png.....

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christophmeidel905 when you choose between two image you got contrast slider under inage, there you set brightness, thqn you can set brightness also with burning time and speed.

    • @christophmeidel905
      @christophmeidel905 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      TinC33 I will try it , thank you

  • @alpican
    @alpican 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the great video! Do you think it could cut silver which is 0.3 to 1mm? Maybe there's an application which make it work on the same lines for multiple times?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tjink no go, every software or app allow multiple cut on same line, but that work only if laser can cut material if not it won't help even if try 100 times on same line.

    • @alpican
      @alpican 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TinC33 thank you 🙏

  • @dias5350
    @dias5350 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good! It's possible engraving in stainless metal?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, with using permanent marker.

    • @dias5350
      @dias5350 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 Thanks!

  • @assyriannahrin
    @assyriannahrin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you demonstrate a simple laser cutting pls. ?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you check my other two videos:
      th-cam.com/video/kg6Xd4m647Y/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/Hvg8slOVSyE/w-d-xo.html&

  • @fabiantrz
    @fabiantrz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello great video! can you tell me your settings for a MDF and how many passes will you use. I just was able to cut carbon and paper, I tried 2.5mm, I got just nice engraving but after 10 pases start to burn, my laser is 20w I am using lightburn, thank you nice channel

    • @fabiantrz
      @fabiantrz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      btw are you using some kinda metal to direct laser? looks like a metal part when you engraved plane

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fabiantrz thanks, i don't remember am i mention or not, but the MDF can't be cutted, because it got too big specific density, i try with air assist and everything but hardly come 0,5mm deep.
      What kind of still you mean, on 11:30? It's just a piece if steel for weight the wood to be stedy.

  • @Laserwurks
    @Laserwurks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 12 volt battery maintain by a 145 watt solar panel thinking on engraving off grid using the battery voltage to power the NE JE that is coming by slow boat china post and EMS . Never have to worry about grid spike over powering the supply and killing mother boards. I have on my 3d printer battery backup. because the first printer the board got fried and no replacement avaible.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I try to power my neje mini with 3s lipo (wich is more than 12v) and it work without any problem.

  • @khais14
    @khais14 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it print on keyboard button?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depnd on plastic and paint type but i think it will only melt a bit of plastic surface.

  • @dominikaika3622
    @dominikaika3622 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi,
    in which program do you cut plywood?
    I have neje 20w and I cannot cut the pattern to 4mm - how to do it? :(

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use booth software neje and lightburn but laser got same power on booth, the air assist is the key for cutting.

    • @dominikaika3622
      @dominikaika3622 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33
      just the lightburn program doesn't want to work - can't see the laser what to do with it?
      And how to set the time and power for cutting?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dominikaika3622 you must "add new machine" into lightburn and turn off auto homing when startup... For more check lightburn videos on youtube, they got clear instructions video

  • @consigo0512
    @consigo0512 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, is there an apple app that works with Neje master 2? Great work on the reviews by the way and thank you in advance!

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is also ios version of neje app on neje wiki...

  • @aprex83
    @aprex83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear TinC33,
    I'm focusing on grayscale photo engraving, and Neje wiki says 3500mw laser module is best for this (finer details and better grayscale due to 405nm frequency). What do you think about this ?
    Best regards.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True 3,5w laser modul is far the best for grayscale from the moduls i tested (3,5w 20w and 30w)

  • @martinprimc8664
    @martinprimc8664 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    pozdravljen.
    Sam se odločam za nakup neje master 2 20w. Ker sem opazil ,da imajo tudi NEJE Master 2s 30w plus me zanima katerega bolj priporočaš. sam bom bolj graviral na les velikost mi je pa že od tega navadnega zadosti (17cm za 17cm), bolj me zanima moč. hvala za tvoje odgovore

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ce vzameš S verzijo je že nadgrajen z 32bit matično, (naslednji video na to temo) glede moči pa na kratko, manjša moč laserja se bolje obnese za grayscale graviranje, za globoko graviranje ter rezanje pa so boljši močnejši 20w+ laserji, prqvtako je pri manjši moči manjša točka laserja torej se da gravirat manjše detajle.

    • @martinprimc8664
      @martinprimc8664 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 super ! Hvala za odgovor. Bom raje uzel tega bolj švoh ker bom bolj graviral slike in podobno na les pa so mi vazni detajli. Hvala za pojasnilo pa se to me zanima se da tega manjsega naknadno nadgraditi z mocnejsim laserjem hvala

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martinprimc8664 seveda ampak mislim da ne morš dobit mašine z manj kot 7w modulom, najbolje da vzameš 20 ali 30w mašino pol pa dokupiš 3,5 ali 2,5w modul ki je najcenejši ca 30€.

    • @martinprimc8664
      @martinprimc8664 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 super hvala za odgovore

  • @pierresalmon8118
    @pierresalmon8118 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello i just bought one Neje master 2 but i can`t engrave anything, maybe a problem from the laser ?
    If you coud help me little beginner with those product it will be wonderfull
    thanks

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where is the problem, what software did you use?

    • @pierresalmon8118
      @pierresalmon8118 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 Thank you for answering me.
      The problem is that, when i start engraving with the 20W laser with the NEJE V5.3.2 software, nothing happen on my wood or paper even modifying the settings. Literally nothing is appearing but the CNC is working well just no engraving, i m totally new on this product so i m maybe doing something wrong.
      Thank you

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pierresalmon8118 fan on laser module running, do you see any blue light out of laser when plug power supply? If not check the cable, there must always be a blue light when the power is on

    • @pierresalmon8118
      @pierresalmon8118 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      TinC33 fan is running and there is the blue light when it’s on 😥

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pierresalmon8118 then try increase laser power and burning time is there any change in light

  • @sberfield
    @sberfield 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful. Thank you.

  • @umamahshaker1614
    @umamahshaker1614 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello dear my name is umamah frm dubai I have a neje master 2 s laser machine I have in prblm to connect my laser to lightburn but dear its showing sending data to laser failed your machine busy or pause. pls help me thanks

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you set same connection number as on firmware, if engraver stop respond mid of work upload middle firmware with neje firmware uploader choose middle one not 200000(last one) check my video about neje max, i tell few words about that problem here.

  • @loukascharalambous6250
    @loukascharalambous6250 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello! I want to cut a wood with engraving master 2 lazer. Can i have the weight 9f the wood and the settings of the program ti cut it correctly?🙏🙏

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try with 100% laser power and slow down the speed, but you need air assist for cutting.

  • @jennaaa4251
    @jennaaa4251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your review and tutorial. I managed to make mine work but I am always either messing up the logo where it prints on the spatula or not having it in the correct spot. How do I align the Lazer to print exactly where I want it on a pen or spatula? Thank you!

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Put object you want to engrave under the laser and set focus on it's surface, than into neje software click sqare button (framing) another window will apear where you can move your logo inside of working area and the laser will follow with weak light wich show the position of engraving, close the window and click start.

    • @jennaaa4251
      @jennaaa4251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 thank you so much - that was so helpful;)

  • @omerargon6477
    @omerargon6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi As i write last time i ordered neje 2 20w but they send me neje 20w, after that they send me one mainboard master 2s but now the problem is in the screen said Unsupported device i try all up date software but still not working, have you any idea whats the problem ? thank you

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you install driver?

    • @omerargon6477
      @omerargon6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 yes i did and install also this NEJE_V5.3.1.exe - 2020.7.13- bug fix, firmware upgrade to version 7.1.

    • @omerargon6477
      @omerargon6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      its work bluetooth but not with the laptop,

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@omerargon6477 hm does windows recognized machine when plug usb? It should be something with driver / comport settings.

    • @omerargon6477
      @omerargon6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 yes windows recognized usb plug

  • @uriasbarbosa6989
    @uriasbarbosa6989 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Ortur Master 2 machine I bought is 20w.

  • @midnightcreations8519
    @midnightcreations8519 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can it engrave metal?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No only paint on metal or anodising on aluminium.

  • @360PanoAchern
    @360PanoAchern 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 8:07 you change the firmware for grbl and when I want go back to use the neje software then I flash the benbox firmware?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, you can connect neje anytime, doesnt metter which firmware you got, you need to change firmware only for grbl software (benbox, laser grbl, lightburn...) NEJE software always run on it's own microcontroller (glow neje light)

  • @urasteknikplastik402
    @urasteknikplastik402 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, I am a .neje master 2s user. The red led is constantly flashing. The software is not loading . can you help

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Red led on laser modul flashing whil is in iddle mode, do you install driver to pc

    • @urasteknikplastik402
      @urasteknikplastik402 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 The driver is installed on the computer . but the red light is constantly flashing.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@urasteknikplastik402 red lifht on motherboard or on laser modul, on laserm modul mean it's in iddle mode, does pc recognize new dewice after plug usb?

  • @omerargon6477
    @omerargon6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi one question. how can i made my laser thin ? thank you

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How you meqn thin?

    • @omerargon6477
      @omerargon6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 meqn ? what you mean?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@omerargon6477 mean😉 how you mean how i made my laser thin, you mean thin cut?

    • @omerargon6477
      @omerargon6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 yes and also is that possible to thin write with laser ?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@omerargon6477 all you can do is to set focus to smallest possible dot, but more powerfull lasers like 20,30w got bigger dot than weaker lasers, 3,5w modul got relly small focus point.
      For tiny engraving set motor speed to slow, lower down the laser power and increase burning time so it engrave slower, then text height 1mm can easily been read.

  • @shamimabegum1754
    @shamimabegum1754 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please recommend a face mask to protect from inhaling the smoke when engraving wood?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know i leave laser itself in room when working, but if i woudl use i'll buy ffp3 mask

  • @IronMan-yg4qw
    @IronMan-yg4qw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you do a video on the NEJE Master 2 40 watt?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just those days i'm in contact with neje so i test new lasers modules and machines.

    • @IronMan-yg4qw
      @IronMan-yg4qw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 oh. im looking for a laser. id like 40 watt neje but i dont know if its a good laser. or should i stick with ortur 30 watt?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IronMan-yg4qw so far i can't tell you, but 30 and 40w loog good, it got fixed fucus so you need to set entire modul height, i think there could be better focus because of this.

    • @IronMan-yg4qw
      @IronMan-yg4qw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 ok thx

  • @omerargon6477
    @omerargon6477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi its me again,may i ask you have you got a a video for font size selection in the software.? i cant change mine device font size i dont know how i have to do. Thank you.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try to play a bit, type text into box than select all and click font, size... Than comfirm and insert into working area.

  • @piqlerstudio
    @piqlerstudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, im setting up the machine after installed driver, i open the neje_5.6v.exe file , it stop at verifying, showing that cannot be verified... do you know how to solve it? Thanks.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry but don't know it's a pc issue

    • @piqlerstudio
      @piqlerstudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      later i change usb port and reinstall driver again, then it work... (actually i dont know whether it is the cause or not)

  • @daliborklusacek2095
    @daliborklusacek2095 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    how to set NEJE Master 2 from engraving to cutting, thank you

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Power to max and rise engraving time

    • @daliborklusacek2095
      @daliborklusacek2095 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 just this, nothing with diode or focus?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daliborklusacek2095 no, just set focus same as for the engraving so there is smallest possible dot, with maximum power. power to 100% and rise burning time so it move slower and make bigger effect.

  • @dayalsaran6262
    @dayalsaran6262 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have any dealer. in India

  • @uriasbarbosa6989
    @uriasbarbosa6989 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello! I really liked the video, very explanatory. I recently bought an Ortur Master 2 and there was a problem with the motherboard and I would like to adapt the motherboard of this NEJE Master 2 On my Ortur Master 2, would it be possible with any modifications? Do you have the technical data of the NEJE master 2 motherboard for me to make the changes?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i don't know where to get spare motherboard, but if you get i think just need to recconect the motor, limit switch and so on, it should work, but the price of neje 2 / 20W is below 170$ right now in banggood.

    • @riskaoibaf3280
      @riskaoibaf3280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Throw the original board in the garbage and use Arduino + GRBL, no more problems

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@riskaoibaf3280 that's the way but need some knowledge to assemble and setup all together.

  • @juanherreralopez
    @juanherreralopez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the maximum cut thickness possible?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sprice wood can cut about 9mm thick with air assist.

  • @IronMan-yg4qw
    @IronMan-yg4qw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i need help connecting my neje master 2 to lightburn. lightburn cant find my laser even tho it is connected and turned on. i did it manually but it makes lots a noise from trying to go to far. i am using neje 5.4.2 to burn stuff but its not as nice as lightburn. plz help thx.

    • @ronald44181000
      @ronald44181000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you managed to get it to work. Please share what you did.

    • @IronMan-yg4qw
      @IronMan-yg4qw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ronald44181000 this worked for me for master 2.: www.northlakeswoodwork.com/blog/2020/7/5/affordable-laser-engraving-lightburn-setup-for-neje-master-2

    • @IronMan-yg4qw
      @IronMan-yg4qw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ronald44181000 for master 2s here: www.northlakeswoodwork.com/blog/2020/12/26/lightburn-setup-for-neje-master-2s?fbclid=IwAR1imVVDpONMOO0_JATRyWTZY92mqN8I2TqJtF4h2joejdgCy73JsJC3d3E

  • @durtysouth85
    @durtysouth85 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video! thank you

  • @concepcionlaguna2482
    @concepcionlaguna2482 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hola buenas tardes soy de la cd mexico quisiera saber cuanto cuesta y donde la puedo comprar

  • @PeteSnipe
    @PeteSnipe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really useful overview. Thanks for the video. Mine is on order.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks

    • @PeteSnipe
      @PeteSnipe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ESCOBAR ALI Ordered direct from China to UK from Banggood. £158.20 paid. 20 watt version works very well. I am using lightburn software and GBRL firware. Minor issue is apparent lack of homing (but this could be me).

  • @pendekar7868
    @pendekar7868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    please test on id tags , coke can , glass , painted metal, etc

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i do that on my other lasers videos so i don't seen need to showing results once again.

  • @jkaks0073
    @jkaks0073 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi can this machine engrave in stainless metals?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually it can engrave on stainless steel quite good, check my other video about neje 20w modul, to see the result on stainless steel with using permanent marker.

  • @simonrourke9817
    @simonrourke9817 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. What type of wood did you use for the plane and what thickness?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For the plane i use 2.5mm balsa, i try also with 3mm plywood, but didn't come trough everywhere i will need to go one or two more pass.

    • @simonrourke9817
      @simonrourke9817 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 they look great

  • @r.in.shibuya
    @r.in.shibuya 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are there no comments that this laser cutter does not even have an ON/OFF switch!!!!

  • @omygodtwo
    @omygodtwo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the only downside I have with this unit is the speed. It's very slow in both settings ..wireless or direct connection to my laptop.

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try to change motor speed, or use other siftware where you can set speeds, and acceleration of motor, otherwise you can buy new 32bit motherboard for better speed.

  • @eternia5575
    @eternia5575 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    20 w laser cut 4mm leather?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't got 4mm leather, but 2mm can cut nicely if it isnt white colour

    • @eternia5575
      @eternia5575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TinC33 Thank you for your help. Best wishes :)

  • @jetegtmeier71
    @jetegtmeier71 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    where did you get your green cutting mat ? nice video :)

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, i bought that cutting mat in some fabric store, while waiting my wife to buy some fabric, it's brand OLFA japan, great mat but i use only for filming, and i'm really carefull with it, because it cost about $60.

  • @mofijulislam804
    @mofijulislam804 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many price of this

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check for the libk into description, it depend on size and power they'r from 130$ to 600$

  • @w3k11
    @w3k11 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you tell me dimension (width, height, length) of this machine when it's fully assembled?

  • @pamella4249
    @pamella4249 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    alguem pode me ajudar, minha instalação aparece que a verificação nao dá certo

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What you think? Do you install drivers on your pc?

  • @dbcinvestisseur9572
    @dbcinvestisseur9572 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi ! what's the max mm you cut with it ?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      9 mm spruce wood was maximal cutting deepth.

    • @PeupleDivinTV
      @PeupleDivinTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 woow ! That's crazy ! I think Nehe Master 2 is better for laser cut than "Ortur master 2".
      What's the most difficult think you cut ?
      I want to buy one like this and i hesitate between Neje 2 or Ortur 2

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PeupleDivinTV ortur 2 is much faster, but the neje is better in all others, better software, easier operate, bluetooth, offline engraving, better focus...
      as i say 9mm soft wood was mak i cut with air assist and many goes, but for grayscale 3.5w is better than 20W, just those days i'm in contact with neje to send me other models to test like neje mini, midi and maxi, and moduls 30 and 40W.

    • @PeupleDivinTV
      @PeupleDivinTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TinC33 thank for your answer, can't wait to see your next video test !
      I think i will buy Neje with two different head 3,5w ans 20w with this i will be versatile.

  • @AndrazSpan-strojevodja
    @AndrazSpan-strojevodja 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kolk stane tale zadevca?

    • @TinC33
      @TinC33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      v banggoodu majo neko hudo akcijo sam linka ne smem objavt, je tam okol 170E

    • @AndrazSpan-strojevodja
      @AndrazSpan-strojevodja 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TinC33 hvala