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0:00 Not Pomu Explains Why She's Back:
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8:32 Hololive's Kiara has Hololive in A Chokehold:
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#vtuber #nijisanji #nijisanji_en - บันเทิง
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They stopped her from a collab with Metal Gear, a franchise she fell in love with during her career as Pomu... so much of that is wrong.
They are hiring people but end up not even supporting them so what are they even doing anymore?
did they really? or is that just an unconfirmed assumption just cause she really like metal gear. cause if they did do that then that would make no sense and very stupid even from a business perspective
acceleration
Some said it could be an idol group collab, but due to the head at the time being affiliated to a music label, and the idol group being part of a rival music label, there was a conflict of interest on his part, and hence they rejected the collab.
@@notmo.Why support them when Niji milk their talents dry and replace them?
The cardboard wings metaphor was amazing.the company never gave her the real wings to rise above.
Its crazy how it sounded like a joke but ironically suited so well to her situation
"But the Eagle flies above the clouds ... blpblmblpdblbmb"
B4 selen terminated I always comment on random clipper niji is real life jail they is slave company.
No1 believe it. Now look at them lul
@@RoisomeYep. I hope Hololive picks her up. Save another Niji ex member. I mean they did it with Luna what is to say they won't accept her?
your rrat fits but it also references whenever she does her 3d as pomu she had paper thin wings and people would ask her to fly and use it.
she would then say “oh its made of cardboard thats why i can only fly a little”
Why i left Heaven (Nijisanji EN): Turns out it was actually the 7th layer of hell.
It was greed land
Outer Heaven
@@waterking74The greed ring. Turns out she was working for Mammon.
@@ivenid Riku Mammon Tazumi
@@waterking74 Now we just need a Nijisanji version cover of "2 Minute Notice"
She said she has unresolved issues because that is what keeps ghosts around. There is a lot of freedom in this interpretation.
and that unresolved issues she is talking about might be the non-compete clause exclusive for her cause she cant Join the agency just yet. she could have more than one Unresolved issue but we just had to wait and see for her to Sort everything out.
@@Otoshi_GamiVshojo is unlikely as she said she denied to join Vshojo. If based on her idol dreams and what she said..although Hololive EN 3 debut like about 8 months ago..who is to say she won't be part of Hololive EN 4 even though it might only happen at least one to two years from now? Or they could be gutsy to release 2 EN Gens in a row. I actually don't mind if they release a lot of talents once in a while. Of course not like Nijisanji but maybe once every few years they have mass number of members to boost their ranks?
@@ShioriNovelite1idk she might just be denying it for now or denying the podcast means she is joining. She also mentioned she’s unsure if this is a temporary return or more long term. I wouldn’t join a company I’d retire from in a few months either. I think if one thing’s clear it’s that she doesn’t know her plans either
Niji could be a whole book about how not to run a corporation.
Cardboard wing. Mint just burning nijii down with that metaphor.
To use a pro wrestling metaphor, Mint dropped her version of "the pipe bomb".
I pray.. even though I am coping as Holo only release Advent 8 months ago..I am begging! Yagoo if Mint apply for Hololive please accept her! She will be a good fit for your company!
@@ShioriNovelite1We totally don't want Kiara and Mint together or anything humph!
@@ShioriNovelite1 Even Hololive accept Mint, Mint will not be Mint anymore as new character design will be made. And I think Hololive has too many applicants to choose
@@tinchauleeyeah honestly i think indie or vshojo is her best option. Another rebranding so soon would be hectic. Also Mint has so many Vshojo ties. I think for now, she doesn’t know if she’ll even stay past the podcast so makes sense she’s not gonna sign with a company
Mint: “literal ectoplasm leaking out my ears”
Some unhinged boi in chat: *”slurp”* 💀
Unhinged or true to himself?
Let’s be honest here, you’re talking about yourself aren’t you?
@@mung01re Those two are not mutually exclusive. :D
@@TheCaribbean04No, probably not. Space's Ghost said **Slurp** at 1:55
@@TheCaribbean04 nah I’m not quite that far gone yet 🤣
RedBull gives you wings
Kurosanji gives you cardboard wings
So Pomu now drinks redbull? Ratnoted
Redbull geeeeer dig vingaaaarrrrr~
Redbull VTubing agency when?
The anger I felt when they were talking about their time in Nijisanji and the bullshit they went through when in that company. The fact Matara even said she cried during Pomu’s graduation and noted that she also cried during her own graduation was sad to hear.
It give me a sick sense of satisfaction knowing that Niji had their invitation withdrawn for the meet and greet but Matara and Mint were invited instead.
Off Kai is like their couple who having a wedding or something. Where Mint and Matara was happily given a invite meanwhile telling Nijisanji to F off they are not invited. So satisfying.
Doki was probably also invited, but she had issues with not reading invitations
Matara never get good Manager until She left.
@@kristophesiem5336 she forgot to read her emails 🥲
Ayo imagine if Matara and Mint did a collab with Doki and Kuro during the AR livestream and eclipse their numbers LMAO!!!! It would be the icing on the cake on their "negligible" practices
That would be a power move
Oh yeah its gonna be amazing
Bro, that would be like the PINNACLE of "Cope, seethe, mald, ache, yearn" for Nijisanji, LMAO
Am I the only one that lowkey feels they wouldn't be collabing with Doki? Matara and Kuro have already collaborated with the likes of Quinn and Mint yet there's no Doki lol.. especially when Doki have collabed with multiple content creators left and right.
Everytime I see comments like this, I get sad due to what I mentioned above. I really hope my intuition is just wrong 🙃.
EDIT: this comment aged poorly. SO HAPPY TO BE WRONG!! I enjoyed the Wrestletuber event so much 😋😋
@@lovervenz You are overthinking it for some reason bro. The first thing Doki did was collab with people she was going to before the bullcrap she suffered. She had other collabs to do.
I personally think the OP's comment is more of a when than if.
People are _really_ putting this under a microscope for some reason. It’s no secret she had issues with internal garbage behind the curtain at Nijisanji but this hardly explains exactly what she went through and why she decided to leave. For better or worse we’ll probably never be told why directly.
In order to have a graduation they have to sign the silencing contract. Sayu says the moment she told them she wasn't signing the silencing contract she was issued her termination papers, same with Doki and she wasn't even legally notified of her termination.
So it's very likely that because of that contract they can't say anything about anything to anyone, at least not publicly
It's on one of her membership video that got private, she was denied of opportunity in sponsorship that she wanted, a once in a lifetime like she said, they aren't even trying to compete for the sponsorship, just straight say no.
@@EndoftheBeginning17Even then Nijisanji's reputation even if you did sign that if they want they have the power and if they really hate your guts they would terminate and slander you anyway. And you sign that contract you are screwed. So there is no reason to sign such contracts.
Someone will leak it eventually.
Tell us you haven't been following the drama without telling us you haven't been following the drama.
Even Legal Mindset, a fucking lawyer pointed out that this would be an easy sex discrimination case since only women are getting fired.
Here are 3 things that could happen after the podcast is done.
1. Stay indie
2. Join vtuber company
3. Graduate from vtubing
Definitely not option three
You left out several other potential outcomes. Mainly cause you don't want to consider them as possible.
Come on Fishman
you can do it
@notanasshole8164 I'm curious. What other options are there for a Vtuber other than indie, corpo, or not a Vtuber?
Ask epic as that would be, Mint would likely join Vshojo instead (close relationship with Ma) if she chooses to join
Good for Mint. She deserved better and knows what she is worth. I hope she has a very fulfilling and successful life now that she's out of that shitehole.
The problem is she doesn't know what she is worth, Niji went and destroyed her self worth, now we need to help her get it back
@@MrHoxworth and so is the rest of the NIJI Talents since they just hire random people who are felt unworthy and they exploited them.
@@MrHoxworthHololive will help with that. Yagoo had no problems accepting Luna. If he accepts Pomu almost all in Vtubing would respect Yagoo. Like people say she might not get accepted assuming she applied Yagoo already proven he doesn't care about anything else but his talents. If Nijisanji wants to blacklist Hololive from collabs Yagoo would be like "So be it." I am confident. Nijisanji JP talents would finally realise how bad Nijisanji is horrible if they are cut off from their Hololive friends. Korokoro I am waiting for her to join Hololive JP 7. Maybe Mito to. Nijisanji disrespected their own Sora aka OG the one who started it all..
she seemed to be having a lot of fun being free on a certain twitter about skin and deers
My respect for her went up SO MUCH after she gave her metaphor with the cardboard wings. God I love this Vtuber so much it’s unbelievable.
I'm happy for her for the return. Glad people are being respectful by not bringing up specific topics in her chat.
I think we need to thank matara for this. She really sounds like she was confused and didnt know what to do. Mata came for the clutch and helping her.
She didn't gave up on her dream, she just gave up on Nijisanji.
I’m just happy to see her around
Mint chan came and Pomu where ever she is she a spirit
And 3 years Ago Pomu san Maybe she did find out Nijisanji using they’re own Vtubers to threaten they’re talents or something else?
Matara San likes Mint chan Kawaii like Mother and Daughter huh reminds me of Nina Senpai and Pomu san Mother and Daughter like before
Her spirit could be waiting in Hololive. You never know :)
@@KoeskibibooSparklingGem yeah 🙂
Just glad she left that company, im sure she'll do great as indie, and before people start speculating no she doesn't need to join vshojo let her do her own thing
Actually, like Dokibird and Sayu I think being indie is the best bet. There (for now) is little need to join any corp/group.
@@newstarcadefan… did you actually read the comment you responded to? Lmao
If she DOES wind up joining a new agency (and that's a BIG if), there's one she has connections to... Hololive. She IS friends with a certain phoenix and, apparently, a pair of demon guard dogs who are protecting our smiles. But she could probably accomplish some of those same things as an indie, too... much like Dokibird.
I'm hoping Mint stays, she's always so hard on herself and hopefully the overflow of subs shows her that she definitely has a fanbase to support her.
She’s such a cutie. Glad to hear her again.
While I really do hope that she decides on continuing to stream going forward, I'll understand if she decides to do something else. Either way, I really hope that she's happy in whatever she does in the future!
Yea, surely a big established fan base and a lot of attention to her persona now, with bigger potential to grow, just drops vtubing and goes to work at office, surely
Looking back before heaven, then seeing "heaven" epitomizing the phrase "all that glitters isn't gold"... I'm really thankful & glad -Pomu- Mint returned.
What a cute maid ghost. Strange she sounds like a certain fairy I knew. I'm subbing :)
I hope mint's community make her feel comfortable with streaming again, im gonna support her no matter what she decides
Hopefully until after the podcast is done. That should give Mint enough time to think on what she really want to do
That metaphor with the cardboard wings and not being able to properly fly says more than people may realize.
She dropped a pipe bomb, there.
I am subbed to her already and didn't even know it was Pomu xD
I'm glad my first oshi is back and she sounds as good as ever! Glad she taking her time to relax before making a comeback. Breath of fresh air is important so don't forget to do it too guys 😊
Nice to see her back a doing a podcast with matara
I'm glad she's back and I understand if the wounds are to deep, allthough I know that Matara is doing everything to rekindle her passion for streaming.
So much is wrong with Kurosanji.
- There offcourse is the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that got right out dismissed by management/CEO, without even talking to Pomu first.
* I personally don't mind that the opportunity went to Call instead, she did an amazing job and I do love Calli. However this was such a dagger to Pomu, as she absolutely loves the metal gear series. I also understand why Konami went to Pomu first, so I don't understand why Kurosanji just denied her this. I also think that this was the nail on the coffin that made her leave.
- There were times where Pomu wanted to record more 3D, yet those sessions got denied as well, leaving Pomu with Karaokes that she wanted to do in 2D.
- Also we now know that the kurasanji contracts can force the talents to travel, so Pomu was in Japan for recordings and those got cut short on her, so there were a lot of stuff she never got the chance to record.
- Also on the podcast she said "They let anyone in these days", she's obviously ashamed of what has become of her hard work at Kurosanji.
- Then offcourse there is Kurosanji being to stingy to buy their talents a second playbutton, so that's withheld from their NijiEN founding members. Allthough it's more of a power complex within Kurosanji tbh.
- Also thanks to the same contract we know that there are times that Kurosanji would hold their earnings if Kurosanji deemed the talents stepping out of line, so who knows really how many times Pomu didn't get paid. + the unfair cuts of 2% merch sales (if Kurosanji felt generous enough) where it honesly didn't matter what Pomu brought out for birthday merch, she wasn't earning anything on them really.
And this is only with Pomu, I'm not even talking about the stuff they pulled with Zaion, Selen, Khyo, Mysta, Nina and all the other 180+ talents (past like Moruru and present) they have.
I mean, that felt like THE opportunity for Pomu, no shit on Calli, I love her, but Pomu is THE MGS fangirl in the vtubing world. It's like if Holo denied Kiara for a Tales of collab, or if Calli was denied a collab with P3, it's just wrong
@@CrabKFP Oh no shit taken on Calli, believe me, I love Calli to bits.
But I fully agree that Pomu would had been THE go-to girls for anything MGS related.
And if I am correct, Pomu was also Konami's first choice, but because Kurosanji management declined they had to search for someone else for this MGS collab and their second choice was Calli.
EDIT: The only ones I blame for this is the Niji management/CEO.
There is one of those points that i admit has me a bit intrigued and is the whole deal of "They let anyone in these days", hmm i wonder really if there was bad blood or something
@@lsebastian9086 It's indeed how I take it. I bet there are people that Pomu still loves even now within Niji. But it really sounds like that it's only a really small part of all the talents, not enough for her to endure more abuse within the company.
Also everything she has seen happening to the people arround her that she did love (like Mysta, the ID girls, Nina and who knows how much she experienced herself about Selen (as everything with Selen started in december and Pomu graduated January)). I can fully understand that everything that was going on did hurt her deeply.
thats really great for Mint, she has come back, & im watching her MGS Pachislot machine stream right now!
whats more funny, her 2D avatar here is more smooth than when she on Niji... lol
"why can't you come back sooner!?"
she busy simping and watching certain comedian agency's festival ~ lol
Brand new rigging, paid for by Matara Kan. Apparently the guy that re-rigged it is notorious for putting ahegao toggles on vtuber models he rigs. (Read comments saying so)
@@HudaefCares more showing how fucked up Niji in general, they refuse to pay more and keep using old rigging for even new members.
ngl, Niji got sick avatar designs from famous artists, but they destroy it with their stiff rigging.
@@Nematoda4ever Tbf, Mint Maid's vtuber model is hers, not Niji's. They're not obligated to pay for "some indie vtuber's" stuff.
Hopefully the freebie is only because Matara Kan was being nice, not because Mint Maid can't afford it.
@@HudaefCares i know that, what i mean is her Model is more smoother than when she on Niji as Pomu, its not about "niji pay indie vtuber models".
Niji can pay more for good rigging for their livers but choose not to when they was biggest Vtuber company.
thats why people always comparing their 'livers' rigging and how they lose so hard against Indie like Shylily in term of smooth 2D avatar.
oh Mint can pay it for sure, she's not broke.
it just Matara want her to back as vtuber so she pay that.
I wish for her the best going forward
I hope she remains as an indie, but that's up to her to decide. Three months are enough time to make it coincide with an important date.
Some black companies deserve to lose their best assets. I hope she finally finds success in her return, this time for good.
When heaven turns into hell I understand wanting to go back to being a ghost.
She looks much cuter like this. Her voice is so cute and I've only realized it now because of how fitting her model is
Place that might not be heaven? Given fake, cardboard wings to become angels? This isn't City of Angels, and the people she was with may not have been benevolent, but I have a hunch that those guys also wore black, but for different reasons.
I’m so happy to see her happy. Hearing her being upset about losing a once in a lifetime opportunity really broke my heart. I’m so happy she’s free 💖
Kanauru: "all according to CAKE-kaku."
Mint might take a break after the podcast to come out with a new model
Mint! Daitsuki!!
Another weekend, another Kurosanji video.
I think she for certain wants into Hololive so that she can finally check off her idol bucket list. Vshoujou would be fine support for streaming, but she is an idol fan first and foremost.
And she's apparently got 3 friends already in Hololive: Kiara, Fuwawa, and Mococo.
I kinda feel like applying for Holo (with possible recommendations from current holomems) makes sense as to why she seems to be unable to give a concrete answer about being back as Mint for the long run.
@@SeanStrife Are you able to provide any context or pointers on where I can find the background of her relationship with Fuwamoco? This comment section is the first I'm hearing of it, so I want to look into it more!
@@AlexisAlexander646dearsqn meets the twin
Glad to see her back in the game
So far everyone I’ve seen that got out from Niji sounds pretty chill and overall filled with joy, I wonder why…
I really do think that people are missing the bigger picture when it comes to Mint and i really hope that im not the only one that sees it, maybe im just the only one who will acknowledge it.
It is extremely sad seeing mint in the state that she is in, I am happy that she is back but she came back and she has such a damaged sense of self worth and confidence. Its almost like she is questioning everything while being confused at the same time attempting to make heads or tails of what is going on knowing what she wants to do but not knowing if she should do it and i think that she is almost in a state of heightened self preservation right now.
I really hope that Matara instills that sense of self worth back into her so that she gets her power back. Pomu was easily one of my favorite Niji-EN streamers along side Nina so i really hope that she stays.
Cardboard wings. NijiEN oh NijiEN, you're so done
Hewwo Bunny
Hello gamer
@@Khyo
Question: Why the angels can do whatever they wanted and remain in the sky?
P.S: You guys get the reference, right? After all, the Ghost Maid herself said so in a certain way.
Due to a filing error Mint wasn't sent to heaven as she was suppose to. Instead she was so pon she didn't realize she was in the "other place". She still eventually found her way out.
i have a list of games i hope she plays if she sticks around.
the apollo justice collection.
the great ace attorney collection.
doom 2016.
doom eternal.
the no more heroes series.
Mint left Heaven 3 months ago, and the podcast will last 3 months, totaling about a 6 month gap, make use of this information as you please.
There are 3 things she could do that after the podcast is done which are
1. stay indie
2. Join vtuber company
3. Graduate from vtubing
@@daisukeniwa402645 CEASE WITH THAT G WORD, KYEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHH *DIES-OF-G-WORD-MENTION*- Anon A.N.I
@@Thisisaburneraccounttheresmore NO
I kind of feel like the podcast is Matara's way of buying some time to try and convince Mint to stay and/or maybe perhaps even join Vshojo. Regardless, I just love the concept of it and kinda reminds me of Unus Annus.
Kiara: all according to cake-aku.
Her evil(aku) plan to make us think of cake.
Her alt account is literally named Cake Princess.
It is not just ex niji members she knows in vshojo. Mint played games with pikamee back in the early days, was so happy when pikamee reached 300 thousand. So they have history and henya pops in mints steams to show her support and love
a lot of past lives are being revived. what a time to live in.
Vtubers never die, they just make like Dr. Who and respawn in a new body.
honestly she deserved so much more... Imagine leaving the company and identity that you put so much effort in? she literally did so many amazing projects that brought so many people together like the cover song with other en livers that btw has millions of views. She was literally part of the 1st gen and gained stable following after all her hard work, but she had to leave cuz the company was too restrictive and overall a pain in the ass smh I hope she can do what she wants to now, be it streaming continuously or taking a break from it if she wishes to Im just glad we get to see here for now
Whether she remains or retires for good, let it be so, regardless. Support her, no matter what.
It's funny how fans think Pomu/Mint Maid was going to be in Vshojo, but you know April Fools also Idol ES or Spanish is going to interesting also she's going to play Metal Gear Solid a lot
I like how we've completely given up being tongue and cheek about liver's previous identities.
I love how she stuck to character. Very nice of heaven to let her wander a bit more
Whatever problems she dealing with I am glad she is back. She's moving forward.
I like how Khyo´s model smile
Remember guys a second episode of their podcast is tomorrow. Don't forget to tune-in.😉
Legend never die - Pomu (Mint) Is true legend.
I can't wait to see her play Metal Gear Rising
Like, for normal small indie vtuber, I believe it's quite normal that they don't consider their doing as a job and that's why they might take a part-time job.
But... I guess this is kind-of a reminder that, an agency didn't actually giving any profits except for a little fame and the talents needs to scraps for cash from somewhere else because of that is... Pretty messed-up...
Not that I know how much money their talents ACTUALLY get...
Fudge she signed that silencing contract right?
I just love that everone that leaves Niji becomes more successful. It's almost like the company is negligible to them.
With that being said, Maid Mint will probably join the next HoloEN wave, but that might take another year or two.
She wants to do idol stuff, so hololive is the perfect fit
No literally cause it’s literally a pattern at this point.
That's will be good, BUT I'm still prefer to be Indie as long as she's happy in her Idol sphere and support her Oshi 😊
Back then i was so sure that she will join vshojo, because it was so common already. Of course that doesn't mean everyone does that. I wish her only the best no matter what she will do in the future and meanwhile we can enjoy her being back with us.
I like Pomu a lot, but I love Mint Fantomine. ❤️
Heaven and Nijisanji are antonyms. 😂
Well! "Fake Heaven" most likely as it was an analogy for Hell. It will be funny if this is the purgatory stage (Indie) until she can join real heaven (Hololive).
@@SenseiRaisen Maybe during her way to heaven Tazumi set up a sign 🪧 “heaven this way” and she end up reincarnated as a elf.
@@IchirosanSSRB got decived by a devil. Honestly that sounds accurate.
kanauru really is a beast
Khyo, I think this is the first time i can say with certainty that your title here is clickbait. None of what Mint was saying here addressed her previous job.
Of course it won't. She still under Niji's shitty NDA.
@@SenseiRaisen yeah, but there wasn't even innuendo to the topic. The title is misleading and has nothing to do with the clip. Khyo could have said Mint is back and sounds like someone we're familiar with and it would have been fine. But this is just reaching for relevance to the bigger issue, which honestly isn't needed. Niji is fine burning itself down. Mint is not bringing up her past life, and afik, won't. It's a past life.
@@alcoholdonkey hmm! if you put it like this, then yeah! i agree with you.
I forgot how much I love her accent.
POR FAVOR, NECESITAMOS IDOLES
POR FAVOR, NECESITO SIMPEAR MÁS CHICAS AAAAA
I noticed a typo in the title, you spelled kuro wrong
Mint better not not leave again. We need a MGS vtuber and she is the only one who can do it justice.
The slave contract still have her gagged.
Waiting for the Fishman to -poach- recruit Mint and Doki. 😂
She is the ghost yet she will be the one haunted forever by the "All Out War"
4:40 😢 cardboard wings
Hanging with @MataraKan to suck out her life force & cause her discomfort sounds like every collab I've seen on YT & Twitch LMAO
Niji: racism, sudoku attempts, terminations, dramas.
Holo: oh, what an ass.
🎶Sticking out your gyatt... Uhh sorry...
I’m glad Mint is addressing her side of the story as vaguely as she can ever since her last work place may have a gag order to not speak anything about them negatively. Still, that workplace still needs to lose their female demographics, especially one of their best girlfailures.
Her referring to Niji as “Heaven” is the most ironic thing possible…
I just want her happy!
She's as beautiful as the day we lost her ;~;
All according to cake-aku.
I feel so bad for the vtubers who are now still stuck in kurosanji. apparently if you want to graduate it takes a lot of time from request until graduation
What's The Only Thing That Can Kill Nijisanji
When khyo mentions chokehold my mind thinks of sleep tokens song chokehold
Ah i didn't know Pomu had an original channel,cute model tho.
Mint's fairy heaven is like one of those Bayonetta angel creatures
Describing Kiara as "caked up as always" is so beautifully multi-layered 😂
I don't care what she does after the podcast is done. As long as she happy with her decision ill be happy too
“So I can cause discomfort in her daily life”
Ah so your good friends
Roach Mommy Mata has basically claimed her for herself and taken her under her Wing.
Khyo, so many people are debating if she's going to Hololive or phase connect (and she said she's not going into vshojo), so wouldn't it be funny if she joined up with Flork of Cows company?
Let them Cook, they are just bunch of Kids, want their Oshi to join Company, its on their Decision whether it want, not from Dumb Fans are want them to force.
@@ChloeKruegerSenpai well yes, but I would find it funny if she did go to Flork, no one would predict that. But you're right. She's free to do whatever she wants.