Life is pointless! You don't choose your parents, you have to work till you drop,and then again the government freezes your bankaccount! Pointless! Lawyers,government, don t trust anybody!
@@patriciavandevelde5469You can still find beauty, meaning, and joy in life if you heal your trauma. Peter Levine's books and James S. Gordon's on trauma have helped me and many people find joy and again and the right people to trust. They're out there.
People are sometimes distracted, demoralized, etc. - yet giving them disease-like Freudian labels and then neurotoxic drugs drives many into delinquency or makes dullards out of them. Furthermore - since large numbers of the public accept reductionist axioms about human potential - this has a negative effect on the entire culture!
This is correct - although the sincerity of psychiatrists cloaks what they are effectively doing to demoralized people! / With their Psychopathology Courses, psychiatrists, et. al. are seeped in pessimistic Freudian ideology - and like a cult, they carry on by denouncing people with disease-like labels and then force them to take neurotoxic drugs or ECT - to thus deliver them into becoming cash cows for their career building & Mental Health - pharmaceutical co-franchise! / With the help of you, Peter Gotzsche and myself - Psychiatrists can simply be indicted and/or redirected from their Luciferian ethics, so that the people they are entrusted with can soon develop mental + emotional cathexes, which is what Mental Health is! @@Solscapes.
„Psychiatry is the only field in medicine … that does more harm than good.“ That is definitely not the case Peter. There are other fields in medicine as well that do more harm than good. I love your work !
I am watching my son go thru brain damage from benzo's...it is nearly two years tapering and the withdrawal symptoms are so horrible I cannot bear to watch him sometimes...he now has regressed into himself, gone back to being a child in some things...he is 27. No support no help either with it all...from our medical health system at all...on our own...what with the pandemic well to get him through all this is taunting to say the least...thanks again for what you all are doing and those like Peter Gtzsche and Peter Breggin and all the others...it seems because of this virus mental health has been brushed under the carpet/hidden from view...I do appreciate this channel and others for support though...love and prayers from NZ...big hugs...
High dose vit c-b complex -all day everyday-use coconut oil in hot drinks-also KETOgenic diet to rebuild the brain-nervous system-muscle etc-he can repair x
Omgosh. I’m so sorry. I went cold turkey off KLONOPIN after 10 years. I tried tapering, and kept going back to regular dose. My fourth try, I finally did cold turkey. It has been two years of absolute hell. I feel your son’s pain. My family watched me go through all of this and still do. I am nowhere near “ normal “. This poison ruined my life ! You are not alone. It’s hard being an outsider because we who are experiencing it are in so much pain, it’s indescribable. Physical, mental, psychological, emotional. It’s just unbelievable and impossible to describe. I pray he keeps fighting. 😢 I know, I really do 😫 It will get better! Keep fighting and encouraging Prayers for you and your son 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
fellow kiwi here. I'm really hoping your son has seen some improvement by now. I"m going through the same for myself, debilitated mentally and cognitively
I'm wondering how you all are now ? I'm in Nz too my sons been admitted and agaist his will put on olanzapine been a week and a bit I wonder when he comes home hopefully he will be able to come off them anyone with experience of this I'm not sure how the follow up stuff goes ?
I am one who never had flu shot. Had one mammogram. Never again. Anything pushed so brazenly makes me back away. I agree totally with Peter he is so honest. Very refreshing.
There is some free or inexpensive help….Dr. Knaus has several books on Amazon on Cognitive Behavioral Therapy that have helped me while tapering off Effexor using the harm reduction method by Dr. Peter Breggin. I’m one my four year tapering down slowly.
Nothing is covered - for those who might recover from the jerky, uncontrolled movements of Tardive Dyskinesia. Psychiatrists cause this with their drugs, while cloaked behind the plausible deniability of Standard of Care ethics!
Actually, the UK is planning to put millions of pounds into clinics that help people taper OFF these drugs. Their studies have shown psych meds do more harm than good in the majority of cases and are incredibly difficult to quit. While that doesn't help those of us in North America, it's a fine start - and one I hope other countries will soon emulate. Because yes, anyone trying to quit a benzodiazepine or psych med may well suffer the tortures of the damned as so many of us have. Facebook has a number of groups that help people taper slowly and successfully and offer support. Best of luck!
this is why people who have been through this personally should go into the field. I am and others like me need to. we care because we have lived it. we are the qualified help!
I've experienced withdrawal from both benzos and SSRIs. They are both bad....aka, excessive anxiety, rage, etc. But hands down, benzo withdrawal was worse for me with way more strange symptoms. I also felt a physical need for benzos that I did not/do not feel with the SSRIs. I feel that I've been harmed by both and not given informed consent. Wish I never would have started any of these meds many years ago. Thank you for bringing all this to light.
Thank you for sharing your experience...going through this now. I too wish I had never started. What I needed was a hell of a lot of support - physical and emotional - not these pills.
@@JacquiQ Just know that there is healing. I'm so much better now. 90% healed, I would say, and finding enjoyment in life again. Don't give up, even though it can feel like hell.
@@fareenrazzak5906As Cassie hasn't replied, I thought I'd pass on some of the practices that helped me taper off benzos and an antidepressant and remain off them despite the hellish withdrawal symptoms. Writing my feelings out "at strength" in a journal - really let it ALL out! No-one will see, it's just for you. Learning self-hypnosis to help with sleep and pain. Using short meditations of varying types from TH-cam frequently throughout the day - they give similar effects and brain waves to sleep and can make you feel SO much better and calmer! Shaking and dancing out the emotions that flew out like fireworks after being numbed and sedated for 20 years - that was and is invaluable for pain, anxiety, challenging emotions like rage and frustration, and grief. Eating a mostly organic and non-processed food diet and drinking lots of water, the Mediterranean diet is the most balanced - but not fussing about food too much. If I wanted a treat, I bought a small one and enjoyed it! Walking in nature helps a lot. Spending less time on the computer and more time in nature or in the community made a huge difference as computers increase stress and activate the nervous system. Vagus nerve exercises Avoid caffeine and alcohol as they affect the same brain receptors that Benzo's depress and can prolong withdrawal symptoms. (I know that's hard!) I wish I'd known about the Ashton Protocol written by an English doctor who helped people taper off benzo's slowly and safely! And the many support groups on Facebook like Benzo Warriors and the internet support group, Benzo Buddies. We need to find what works for US as we all have a unique healing path, but all these have been shown to benefit people. I highly recommend Chi Gong videos, somatic tracking videos for emotions/pain/dizziness, etc, various forms of meditation apps and videos - I particularly like Chi Gong, guided visualizations, and yoga nidra. All help with the trauma and stress of withdrawal symptoms. If you're interested, I can share my favourite most helpful videos that aided me Escape from Benzo Oz and bust out of Pharma Prison! Best of luck.
I have been prescribed benzos and antisychotics. I am off the antipsychotics as i was misdiagnosed and i didn't realise how it ruined my creativity and the numbing of my emotions. As for the benzos i have been told i can't come off of them as in my doctors words you aren't mentally strong enough ! If i could sue then i would !
A family member asked all the right questions before being prescribed a Benzodiazepine on a daily basis ie are they dependency forming, will they continue to work long term, can they cause cognitive decline, etc... He was told basically that that's all a load of rubbish. He was so reassured that he took them happily and augmented the dose happily to a high dosage. Finally, the penny started to drop and he emailed the psychiatrist to explain that each time he augments the dosage it works for a while but that the anxiety etc... ramps up again after a few months. He never got a response to that email and his questions were never answered but just ignored. He is now in withdrawal and suffering intensely.
That doctor sounds like he's from 1976 not 2024! They didn't know about it back then, but they are supposed to know now. I got addicted to it but I had an idea what I was in for. I started swiping my mom's Valium when I was only 15. I In 1978, I read a book called "I'm Dancing as Fast as I Can, about a network news producer who stopped taking Valium and went into psychosis. It was also made into a movie. She wrote the book in the mid 70s warning people of the lies we were being told about it. Even with this knowledge, I thought it wouldn't happen to me. I loved how it made me numb and shut off the self-doubt and negative self-talk I used it for 40 years. But I also became an alcoholic which made it more complicated. Every time I wanted to get sober, I was detoxed using Ativan. I was tapered off of that after 3 days, and when I went to a therapeutic rehab they wouldn't prescribe it. I had to go through withdrawal from it in rehab, and then when I got home, I would just go on it again. Countless times I did this. It's a longer story but I ended up being able to get over it in 2015. But now I'm on Effexor. I hope your relative gets through it. The fact that he hasn't been on it that long should be in his favor.
@@donnagelina8548I am SO sorry you went through that and yes, so many benzos and psych meds cause vastly more problems that they help, and help at best only temporarily. I too suffered the tortures of the damned when I tapered too rapidly off Clonazepam and Elavil, prescribed for the pain and insomnia of fibro. They had caused or worsened every problem, and I was diagnosed with 5 "incurable" diseases - that all resolved or improved dramatically 6 months to 2 years after I quit! Alas, doctors get their information from drug companies, who also fund universities and often have influence over the curriculum. Many despite the data out for 40 years still believe them "nice safe sleeping pills and anti-anxiety medication" when they're as addictive as heroin and 10 times harder to quit as withdrawals can last for years! But I'm off ALL medications now, and I got my life back! I did some grief and trauma counseling which helped a lot, and discovering the reasons why I had the symptoms and took the medications in the first place. Best of luck, and I'm so glad you were able to quit alcohol and benzo's. Effexor is just one more you will have the strength to taper when you're ready. I'm so glad I escaped from Benzo Oz and busted out of Pharma Prison!
A relative of mine was told they could suffer serious problems if they didn't take them. My relative complies for a very short time then tapered off without incident. And was absolutely fine.m, fortunately. No other help offered. Just drugs. The only tool in their toolbox and they don't seem to know how they work. I am disguted w the system.
Doctors are taught in universities funded by drug companies, which explains their ignorance and arrogance. Drug companies influence on what is taught in medical and psychiatry schools and people who aren't pro drug aren't hired. What they're taught is drug company PR rather than the data about these medications. Many doctors are horrified when they discover how little they truly know, which is appalling when the data on drugs like benzodiazepines causing brain injuries has been available for 45 years. Thankfully, there are a few honest and ethical doctors who speak out - which you can't do if you want to get funding, so I'm very grateful for doctors like Dr. Gotzsche.
As an ex-SSRI and SNRI taker I can say Peter is right. These drugs are very hard to come off. I would also like to add that some other drugs have potential psychiatric side-effects. I was prescribed the common sinus spray “Nasonex” and within a few days on it I was beginning to have suicidal ideation. I stopped it and felt better within about 48 hours. I wondered to my specialist if I was imaging this reaction and he said, “Oh, no. It’s the preservative that does effect some people.” With ALL drugs - user beware!
Thank you so much Dr Peter Gotzsche. I stopped using the name, Antidepressants. After 20 plus years on Paroxetine, I suffered deep depression and anxiety.
Hi Nigel, I've also been on paroxetine for over 20 years. In the past year, I've slowly tapered down from 40mg/day to 10mg. It's been a difficult but fascinating journey in learning more about health and healing. Are you still on paroxetine? Curious to know how you're doing. These drugs are so tricky.
There are harms with any intervention. Any vaccine can harm. The problem is that it is a choice between getting covid or taking s vaccine. There is no completely safe option. I had a heart attack with a 2 percent chance. I had contracted a mysterious virus prior to the heart attack. That was prior to any vaccine.
Luc Montesquieu, Jordan Peterson, who else can we add to this list of medical doctors that have experienced severe damage from benzodiazepines? Knowing this information and the ability to share it effectively is a terrific educational tool for us that have been similarly injured.
@@twistedsymposium3744 Couldn’t help it could you? Interesting. Yeah, um he’s a professor of psychology with a PhD and maybe not an MD. I’m guessing you don’t like him for obvious reasons, but that’s hardly the point of my comment. Where the hell do you people come from anyway? Under a bridge or something? Bad troll! Go home.
Hi Nicole. I don’t know if you’ll ever get this , but I think you’re great. I’m just starting to listen to this. I’m about 3 weeks off 5 mg of abilify!!’ I get the haldol 50 mg haldol too. I get real Depressed and am trying to hide the withdrawal from my family. I’m 65. I’m tired today. Went to bed about 7;30pm and woke up at 5. …. Keeping this interview on…. Wish u all well!!!
I was always suspicious about the patient leaflet in SSRI's which warns of 'discontinuity symptoms' if the drug is stopped abruptly, and yet my GP would say they are not 'addictive'. It is as Dr Gotzsche says plainly semantics. In hindsight I can see that you dont really need a PhD in pharmacy, medicine, or indeed linguistics to see that. Discontinuity symptoms are withdrawals, simple as. Granted I guess it does presuppose a definition of 'addiction', but to my mind a substance is surely addictive if you get unpleasant symptoms upon stopping it abruptly. The pharmaceutical definition of addiction seems to be that because taking say 1 citalopram wont make you 'high', they are not 'addictive'. But the point is that patients are precisely made addicted to these drugs with the advice that they should take them for a minimum of 6 months to a year, and by that time for all intents and purposes they ARE addicted.
Dependence and addiction are two very different things and cause the same symptoms. Many are not addicted to these drugs as they do not crave them at all. I’ve lived it, never once craved these drugs. But our brain becomes adapted and dependent on them. Very different. We can’t mix those two terms up. That’s very dangerous.
@@4GSLmusicI understand what you're saying, but if brain and body become addicted even when the person themselves takes the medication "as prescribed" - that's a powerfully addictive drug or it wouldn't have hellish withdrawal symptoms. The patients, however, are NOT addicts as they didn't toss down handfuls, washed down with booze, but took medically recommended doses.
there's a clear distinction between addiction and dependence. the withdrawal is upregulation and downregulation of receptors. often addiction is not even present. No cravings present. I would say the chemical action of each drug and potency depends on the drug itself. Some can come off cold turkev (not recommended obviously) or quickly and experience zero withdrawal symptoms. What's damaging with the word addiction is it places blame on a good patient for simply following drs orders. I've met addicts. they'll lie, cheat, and steal for their drugs.... people who have iatrogenic illness and withdrawal typically do not... unless there is addiction present. The feeling of withdrawal is the lack of a synthetic chemical there, which I know you know. it gets very complex, but it's possible to slowly taper patient safely. Also, looking into SERT occupancy for drugs like SSRI's is very interesting, to look at how the taper rate truly affects the patient and how much of the the drug drops. Which is thought to be the reason for withdrawal. it is hell. but I'm living proof any human can heal. @@thedancingdivaofdaviestree2320
Yes my boyfriend when we were 23 had schizophrenia and he did go mad i lived with him..he would throw me across the room. I knew it wasn't really him...they did take him from me in a straight jacket.😭😭😭 he was on lithium..and he was able to get off and was a computer graphic artist and ended up with a normal life.
I got damaged by psychiatry in late 2006, as a comedy or errors and some intrigue. I get to struggle with Drug Induced Parkinson's, as a cynical expression and discount. No one was supposed to know what medication I got, about 30 grams of Lithium and Risperdal over 4-5 weeks.
I have found Vitamin B1 Thiamine and Vitamin B spectrum supplements to be very helpful. I was prompted by a video "Fighting Parkinson's Disease with Vitamin B1: Interview with Author Daphne Bryan". It contains a video clip of treated patients at about the 2:30 minute mark. @@tammyhavlik1015
I’d love to see all these psychiatrists taking the meds they prescribe & then taken off cold turkey! I think pharma & psychiatrists are responsible for many deaths due to these issues! How can they care so little for their fellow human beings? For the damn money? They couldn’t possible spend all they’ve made!
I think you have hit upon the "Perfect Punishment" no only for the "psycho-tists" who invented and prescribe their poison but those NWO/WEF/WHO/CDC/NIAID, State Medical Boards and the large Hospital Chains whose Covid 19 protocol killed millions around the world!
1st time i took a flu shot was the 1st time i had a lung infection 4 months later. I never took a 2nd. I stopped shots after 4th Covd MRNA ones. Hopefully i havent damaged myself. So far i apoear to have been lucky.
Support. Social support from a compassionate community prevents trauma from becoming mental illness 100% of the time. It also helps the mentally ill heal. How to find a supportive community... ? No idea.
I think that you need to accept that you are going through withdrawal, and realise that it won't last forever; you will get past it. Try to help yourself by rewarding yourself with something that will make you feel good. Dr Peter Breggin always recommends to reduce your drugs (meds) slowly over a period of time.
So many young people are often prescribed antipsychotics for symptoms they felt pressured to admit, even if their understanding of those symptoms differs or they were reported by someone with limited vocabulary. After years of treatment, the result can be tardive dyskinesia, a debilitating condition caused by the misdiagnosis. Who is responsible? Unfortunately, no one can be held accountable, as the misdiagnosis has been entrenched for decades.
Without antidepressants I would of done the dutch already. I don't like to drink them but side effect not as bad as depression and anxiety. I take benzo sometime. But agree with Doc that mental patient given too many dangerous drug
Sadly, many psychiatrists still tell people that ssris are not addictive..this is so terrible! Especially the young people are in great danger when they are told such things by "doctors", this infuriates me so much, there is so much suffering created by this system which would not be there otherwise, instead of helping it ruins peoples' lives. 💔
@MedicatingNormal the same as with tabbaco then, would anyone say it is not addictive?? And for these drugs which cause so much damage, who gave them the right to fool and hurt people they are supposed to heal, by playing semantic games? It is clearly a deception and misuse of authority on mass scale.
No meu país funciona assim: Você recebe uma prescrição em um hospital público, muitas vezes sem ao menos ter contato direto com o médico ou psiquiatra, a avaliação é feita por técnicos de enfermagem muitas das vezes, e passa a tomar essa medicação indefinidamente, você apenas vai no posto de saúde pegar a medicação, não é feito nenhum acompanhamento. Conheço pessoas que tomaram psicotrópicos por toda a vida e nunca foram avaliadas adequadamente. Por aqui fluoxetina e paaxil são distribuídos pelo governo como se fosse aspirina.
_Translation of Eduardo's post_ "In my country it works like this: You get a prescription in a public hospital, many times without even having direct contact with the doctor or psychiatrist, the evaluation is done by nursing technicians many times, and you start taking this medication indefinitely, you just go to the health center to get the medication, no follow-up is done. I know people who have taken psychotropic drugs all their lives and have never been evaluated properly. Around here fluoxetine and paaxil are distributed by the government as if they were aspirin." Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
@@MedicatingNormal - I went back and tried again and this time was able to "like." Thanks again for a great interview! I wish your important content had a much larger audience.
In Czech Republic is a lady who is the owner of 7 Pharma stores, she made an interview about a year ago, after the covid, saying that often she meets elderly people She is telling them good advice, please get off the medications as much as possible, Dont watch the news at night, to get nervous, because it triggers you to eat sleep pills, Rather spend time in nature, go for a walk, exercise. Even pharma owners as she is, are against the overuse of drugs. She saw an elderly couple eating the same set of drugs, because it was convenient for the couple, to go to a pharma store and save time, or whatever reason they had. Dont be fooled by the system. Its ridiculous. Two people can not have the same diagnosis. They may have the same symptoms from the same drugs... But not the same cause of illness. Everybody is different. Drugs should be short-term, but not long-term. Drugs should heal, not cause other health problems.
Yea, I wish there would be more information about treatments that actually work. Meds, cbt, meditation, exercise, etc are not the "actual" treatment for mental illnesses. Is there really no proven way to treat the root of these disorders and keep them away for good?
@@suzychocolate7 I would recommend that you find a holistic doctor, one who is interested in finding the root cause AND treat it rather than the symptoms. All the best.
thank you both, I have recently found your channel. the last close to 2.5yrs of mine have been a fight to gain back my brain after what I believe was one of the most unethical treatments of my life. I had no idea the meds I have been on over 15 years, my adult life, were so dangerous. I had a psychiatric dr cold turkey me off 400mg Lamictal, 2mg/xanax, 40mg Lexapro and 12.5of ambien daily. w/I a week I was begging to save my brain, w/I 2, I was unable to answer questions and would forget what I was saying mid sentence. I started have ambulatory problems, brain zaps, intense panic and then a full psychotic break. w/I 4 weeks, I could only say Beep and Boop. and he discharged me from his "care". it's taken me this long to formulate cogent ideas, I have panic attacks out of nowhere, phantom pains, dereliction (I often fear that I died under his care but was reincarnated in the same body)... but now, I'm angry. My general practioner scrambled to get me back on my med regime which had me stable my whole adult life, but I suspected that I had severe brain damage. The last few weeks, I happened to stumble upon benzo injuries and have extrapolated that I clearly have that, but suspect that due to the heavy psychiatric regimen I was, not only the benzo, but each medication carried the same destructive capabilities. my regular psychiatrist thinks that said doctor was completely inhumane and has no idea how any circumstances would warrant such a drastic change given that each med needs to be carefully withdrawn over months, maybe years. I have longer bouts of clarity now, buy the growing anger is palpable. am I wrong to consider this akin to medical malpractice? I had 4 bachelor's and a master's specialization on my previous brain.
The material world is such a cruel place to be. Those doctors who should give solace to suffering people are geting them into even much bigger problems. My personal advice is to chant Hare Krsna mahamantra and gradualy recover developing the mode of goodness taking care of oneself and those around. Depression pills could have damaged the brain and body but they cannot harm the Supersoul. And every living being is a spiritual soul. The body is just an instrument. Do not worry if the instrument is not fit to enjoy in this world. Just try to get the hell out of it developing the apropriate knowledge. Life is not just about eating, sleeping, mating and defending. Hare Krsna!
Never argue with doctors. Why are you going to doctors? Start there. The people pleasing and BELIEF in ‘experts’ leads to these defensive postures. Why not go for a walk instead? Count your blessings! Walk barefoot. Be glad that you’re alive!
Walk barefoot in the sun, drink clean water, avoid processed foods, and sleep in real darkness. Try to minimize the amt of pharmaceuticals. It’s amazing how many ailments will resolve with a proper diet…. But you must find a doctor who understands the value of “de-prescribing”.
been on meds for 26 years on clozapine for 15 came off them and have not slept for a month 2 weeks and 2 days. my body is going bad.my nightmares won't let me sleep. no drugs if anyone has any ideas for me please let me know. 🙏god bless
My opiniom is that you’re brain has adapted to those drugs and youre dependant, it takes time to unadjust it, it took months but has led me to health, i weny through. Strong depresion as well, my husband provided me food, i did not wash myself, ate only vege first months, it was hell, never begore felt So bad
Some people take invega sustenna injection for 4 months and we are going down gradually with dozes is it safe to stop it after six months.Afraid from relapse.please neex an advice.
So true. This industry destroyd my whole life. But I dont give up. 60 years before the life and intelligence of our mother was damaged. Nothing had really changed. I have to live with my depressions and now in older age with poverty because not able to find a job l anymore. What doing? Fresh air. Running, swimming and cycling, learning. Trying to eat biological good food. Some doctors I guess together with some people "addicted" to power and stupidness of capitalism are not healing they are destroying talents. To those who are harmed by psychiatry: You can go out of this. Depressions has reasons mostly trauma, dont give up, look for good friends and good psychotherapies. Thanks for telling the truth.
The wounded surgeon plies the steel That questions the distempered part; Beneath the bleeding hands we feel The sharp compassion of the healer’s art Resolving the enigma of the fever chart. Our only health is the disease If we obey the dying nurse Whose constant care is not to please But remind of our, and Adam’s curse, And that, to be restored, our sickness must grow worse. The whole earth is our hospital Endowed by the ruined millionaire T.S. Eliot, Four Quartets
Can't google Luc Montaigu at all( with different spellings) , nor find him on TH-cam... so either all info is censored or you have mistaken the name . Wasn't it Luc Montagnier, the French Nobel prize you ment?
If I am asked, "Have you had your flu shot". I reply, "Is my name on it? Did I ask for it"? Or, why do you ask? Have you had a flu shot? Does it make you feel safe? ARe you sorry for taking it.??? etc. etc.
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My son ended up in a mental hospital for 7 months after stopping his clozapine. They did court ordered electric shock treatment to get him to agree to take the clozapine again. He is stable and back home but he calls his medication fentanyl because he says it’s bad and going to killing him. I’m looking into magic mushrooms to see if they can help him. He says he’s going to just kill himself in the future.
How is your son doing? Is he an adult or child? I’m so sorry, the govt institutions & the courts are working against parents & families. Often at the behest of pharma interests. You sound like a loving, committed parent- God Bless!
@@MK-ih6wp he is hard to live with. He is 39 but acts like he’s 14. I wish I could figure out how to make his brain improve. I’d like him to try a keto/ carnivore way of eating to see if it would help.
Yes, and our channel reflects that. There are many videos about the other drug classes, aside from benzos. Also, 'addictive' is really the wrong term. The drugs mostly cause prescribed physical dependence. Addiction or 'substance use disorder,' as they call it now, has a behavioral component that is often not present in those taking their prescribed medications as directed.
@@MedicatingNormal l have a very strong dépendance on neuroleptics but l have never ever given my consent. These drugs have been used on me uniquely by force and coercion. If l come off too quickly l can be a danger to myself or others. Let’s say It’s a form of addiction and most certainly a very strong dependance.
I was on neuroleptic - olanzapine. I stopped taking them secretly. I just spit them. Do you think it's dangerous to quit them cold turkey? I just feel myself so good without them that I don't want to take them
@@MedicatingNormal The fact that if l stop the drugs abruptly l will,after approximately 8 weeks, have behavioural issues from my physical dependance to them seems very much like addiction to me. For the moment if l don't get a dose regularly, l literally go mad, if that's not a form of addiction, l really don't know what is...
@@johnherbert6497 it's literally the definition of physical dependence. Withdrawal symptoms do not equal addiction by definition. Addiction has a behavioral component - are you stealing to get your drug in spite of consequences? Are you using it to get high? Are you able to taper it slowly, with control, without going on a bender and taking 5x as much as you were prescribed? Your answers to those questions indicate if you're addicted or just physically dependent.
Ha ha prolonged grief disorder. My natural time is 6 months to 2yrs. Usually18 months every single time. I never took a drug. Icried talked alot an awful lot. Others might have liked me to shut it. I didnt. Lost potential friends. I now think they were too weak to support me and preferred to label me with self pity or depression. They were ALL wrong. Im fine now. It just took 18 mnths. That was MY NORMAL each time.
@@aprilhassell1747 I hear you. I feel so stupid. And violated. How did it affect you? Here if you want to talk. Can chat privately too. Edit: It's been 14 months since for me, if you want to know anything just ask.
@TheDavveponken are you currently on any other medication? Ive only taken concerta. But before that my lifestyle was horrible and was a big drinker for 20 years. Thanks for being so nice. I might take you up on that chat. Im in United States...you?
@@aprilhassell1747 I'm on 5mg cialis daily as I've read it's good for vascular health (for sexual dysfunction, stroke patients and atherosclerosis) and it seems to help. Exercise helps too ofc. I've been taking it on and off for a few months now, but only daily for about a week as I felt I had to do something to speed the process along. Headaches and blunting have been bad. In hindsight I should have been on it sooner, but I was apprehensive of taking another drug doled out carelessly. I also take vitamin and mineral supplements including NO (nitric oxide) promoting amino acids such as l-arginine and l-citrulline, among others, which help vasodilation and regeneration. My lifestyle was getting better during the year before I started the drug, but before that I had neglected my health for a number of years due to various stressors, student, shitty job, shitty girlfriends^^ I should have realised my problem was just my shitty situation and relationships (parents included). But I digress! I'm in Sweden. But I'm sure we could arrange something. And no problem. There aren't many whom understand what we're going through. Let me know if you want to know more about what I take. Cialis and NO-related amino acids could potentially be dangerous together, they drop blood pressure, so make sure to be careful. Edit: acupuncture also helped me. Anything to activate the parasympathetic nervous system (calm/healing). I've got so much to say on the topic I'm considering making a video:/blog...
Hi, The Ashton Manual mentions Ambien (which is a Z-drug). You can see in the manual that the Z-drugs have a Valium equivalent for tapering. Ashton says, "These drugs are chemically different from benzodiazepines but have the same effects on the body and act by the same mechanisms." See: www.benzo.org.uk/manual
Also, there's a difference between addiction and physical dependence. Mostly, benzodiazepines and Z-drugs cause physical dependence and not addiction. True addiciton, or substance use disorder, from benzodiazepines is quite rare (about 2% of users in one study).
Ambien makes people forget they are awake. Researchers were watched insomniacs on camera, and they did not sleep any better. They just forget they are awake. Being forgetful cannot be good.
@@MedicatingNormal - i'm addicted to ambien- I crave and crave more each day - From 1 to 6 to 7- lost everything...need help. there should be more informed consent. They didn't tell me this.
I did not want mental health professionals forcing me to accept my labels and illness for 10years i was monitored inorder to accept my label and understand that i needed to take their drugs for the rest of my life....in other words i needed to take responsibility for my life and take my meds...it was against my will...here in Australia...these drugs made me disabled and unable to work...
Their "medicine" based on a lie and cherry-picked results. Studies show that invalidation/gaslighting causes depression, and the "chemical emballance theory" has been solidly and repeatedly debunked. But, they're still pushing these neutoxic placebos.
Clearly medications can be very harmful long term. But it's also true that severe depression & anxiety does not go into remission without them. Many people simply cannot function without psychiatric drugs. Also, alternative treatments cannot even begin to make a dent in moderate to acute cases. It seems to me that we are no further ahead of understanding & treating poor mental health than we were in 50's
"severe depression and anxiety does not go into remission without psychiatric drugs" Anyone who's studied trauma, meditation, and brain neuroplasticity would respectfully disagree. Psych drugs are one form of treatment, best reserved for intense states of mind and even then, for only a short amount of time. Beyond that, psych drugs mask and repress our emotions which makes any true healing very difficult.
@@cowboyjohnsontown @chrishoughtonart - Well, I speak for myself, my two parents, my four siblings and a few friends who never experienced remission without drugs. It's true psych drugs mask & repress our emotions, but that's a HELL of a lot better way to go through life than living with relentless unbearable torture of Severe, Chronic Depression. As far as healing without drugs, I've given it 64 years so far, any idea how much longer I should give it?
@@montesa9136 I absolutely hear you. And I'm sorry to hear you and multiple family members have suffered like you have. I also can only speak through personal experience. I've been on antidepressant for 23 years but a few years ago had a horrible reaction to a doubling of my dosage. I eventually learned more about SSRIs and realized maybe they were getting in the way and actually making my symptoms worse in the long run. I also experienced mania and suicidal thoughts when my dosage of paroxetine was doubled. This experience led me to learning about things like meditation, yoga, trying an anti-inflammatory diet, cannabis, journaling, cold therapy, etc. These practices not only help with symptoms but some seem to help get to the root cause of the fear or trauma. I wish you well and certainly don't mean to invalidate your experience. I certainly defended my antidepressant for years because it DID help me! The problem was that the pills helped me but eventually started hurting me. And once you're on the pills, it's difficult to get off because one must fight thru physical dependency/withdrawal while also facing the underlying issues that made the person get on the pills in the first place. 🙏
@@cowboyjohnsontown @chrishoughtonart - Wow! Your comment is by far the most honest & understanding I've ever had. I'm glad you are finding some success in your alternative treatments. I've tried them all but found them useless. I believe in my case there is no underlying cause for depression, other than everyone in my family has it. Without a doubt when 6 people have it there is a strong genetic component to the disease. Nothing will ever change that! I'm looking forward to my decision to go ahead with Physician Assisted Suicide. I believer poor mental health leaves most of us in impossible situations where we spend your entire life trying every treatment possible, clinging to the false hope that one day we will live a normal life. Personally, I don't know a single person who has risen above this insidious disease & gone on to realize their goals
@@montesa9136 I appreciate your reply and my heart goes out to you. If I could recommend one book to you, it would be "Your Drug May Be Your Problem" by Dr. Cohen and Dr. Bregin. It's an in-depth read about how psych drugs can exacerbate mental health issues, including suicidal ideation. My SSRI made me suicidal for months and months and I was convinced it was simply my "broken brain" and my preexisting "chemical imbalance." I've since learned that psych drugs can cause all sorts of chemical imbalances in our brains and it makes it very difficult to distinguish what is a "mental health" symptom and what might simply be a side effect of these powerful psych drugs. I would also respectfully suggest you look into a simple gut health regimen. Eating a strict non-inflammatory diet and adding in pre/probiotics can do wonders for depression. Most of our serotonin lives in our guts, rather than our brains so diet has a massive influence on how we feel. You may have gut issues or food sensitivities that are worsening your symptoms. I wish you love, strength, and support. Life can be so difficult and I can hear how much you've already struggled. I'll keep you and your progress in my prayers. 💚
Actually you are wrong about schizophrenia. Studies shows that if drugs given only if necessary outcomes of schizophrenia better than with constant use of neuroleptics. You can google Whitaker A schizophrenia mystery solved
I wanted to say that my father used to hit my mother! and they were a broken glasses and broken plates that went flying! And one of them hit my sisters eyebrow! She was four years old and she was bleeding! This is the way I grew up! All the time fighting and I was so afraid of my father, he would beat us for no reason for stupid things! This is how I grew up!😢
@@hnp706a dear friend has convinced me that constipation is often caused by unbalanced electrolytes. I think he is actually on to something. Can you invest in one of those electrolyte powders? Like LMNT? They sell some at Costco.
Yeah Dr....I’ll just go through years of the agony of withdrawal symptoms after 30 years of being on a supermarket of drugs,with the very very very slim chance of one day feeling a bit better.From a 60 yr old sufferer of Clinical ptsd depression...and a host of chronic physical diseases...bulldust Buddy.Heard it all before.Send in another QUACK!!!
I believe if that is working for you then stay on it, absolutely. I am in a similar situation, however, on only one Effexor. But I went through Klonopin withdrawal 9 years ago and I don't want to go through anything like that again. I have absolutely no problem taking the medication for the rest of my life. I just have, in the back of my mind, a concern that a time might come when it will be unavailable (any number of scenarios; natural disaster, civil emergency, etc.).The last thing I would want to experience at 63 years old, is having no access to my medication in a situation where having my wits intact would be the most crucial.
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Dr. Peter Gortzeche deserves the Medical Nobel Prize!
Absolutely
this is not a scandal
but rather crimes against humanity
Life is pointless! You don't choose your parents, you have to work till you drop,and then again the government freezes your bankaccount! Pointless! Lawyers,government, don t trust anybody!
@@patriciavandevelde5469You can still find beauty, meaning, and joy in life if you heal your trauma. Peter Levine's books and James S. Gordon's on trauma have helped me and many people find joy and again and the right people to trust. They're out there.
yes sir
If I could give 50 thumbs up for Dr Peter, I would.
I am so glad that Peter is speaking out about these psych drugs because it is ruining thousands of people's lives
People are sometimes distracted, demoralized, etc. - yet giving them disease-like Freudian labels and then neurotoxic drugs drives many into delinquency or makes dullards out of them. Furthermore - since large numbers of the public accept reductionist axioms about human potential - this has a negative effect on the entire culture!
@@stevekaylor5606 given the dimentia-inducing affects, I'm guessing dullardry is the goal.
This is correct - although the sincerity of psychiatrists cloaks what they are effectively doing to demoralized people! / With their Psychopathology Courses, psychiatrists, et. al. are seeped in pessimistic Freudian ideology - and like a cult, they carry on by denouncing people with disease-like labels and then force them to take neurotoxic drugs or ECT - to thus deliver them into becoming cash cows for their career building & Mental Health - pharmaceutical co-franchise! / With the help of you, Peter Gotzsche and myself - Psychiatrists can simply be indicted and/or redirected from their Luciferian ethics, so that the people they are entrusted with can soon develop mental + emotional cathexes, which is what Mental Health is! @@Solscapes.
It's the whole psychiatry set-up there's an ignoring of life trauma
„Psychiatry is the only field in medicine … that does more harm than good.“
That is definitely not the case Peter. There are other fields in medicine as well that do more harm than good.
I love your work !
Oncology.
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Psychiatry always does harm. Its a dangerous pseudoscience. Other fields of medicine are sciences.
Peter. Is a breath of fresh air ....TRUTHER!! thank you.
Please share this video. Psyquiatric patients need that. We need that.
Eternally grateful for this beautiful human and his bravery, honesty and integrity in helping humanity. His contribution is immeasurable!
I am watching my son go thru brain damage from benzo's...it is nearly two years tapering and the withdrawal symptoms are so horrible I cannot bear to watch him sometimes...he now has regressed into himself, gone back to being a child in some things...he is 27. No support no help either with it all...from our medical health system at all...on our own...what with the pandemic well to get him through all this is taunting to say the least...thanks again for what you all are doing and those like Peter Gtzsche and Peter Breggin and all the others...it seems because of this virus mental health has been brushed under the carpet/hidden from view...I do appreciate this channel and others for support though...love and prayers from NZ...big hugs...
High dose vit c-b complex -all day everyday-use coconut oil in hot drinks-also KETOgenic diet to rebuild the brain-nervous system-muscle etc-he can repair x
Omgosh. I’m so sorry. I went cold turkey off KLONOPIN after 10 years. I tried tapering, and kept going back to regular dose. My fourth try, I finally did cold turkey. It has been two years of absolute hell. I feel your son’s pain. My family watched me go through all of this and still do. I am nowhere near “ normal “. This poison ruined my life ! You are not alone. It’s hard being an outsider because we who are experiencing it are in so much pain, it’s indescribable. Physical, mental, psychological, emotional. It’s just unbelievable and impossible to describe. I pray he keeps fighting. 😢 I know, I really do 😫 It will get better! Keep fighting and encouraging Prayers for you and your son 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
fellow kiwi here. I'm really hoping your son has seen some improvement by now. I"m going through the same for myself, debilitated mentally and cognitively
I'm wondering how you all are now ? I'm in Nz too my sons been admitted and agaist his will put on olanzapine been a week and a bit I wonder when he comes home hopefully he will be able to come off them anyone with experience of this I'm not sure how the follow up stuff goes ?
Did he take the vaccine ??
Thank God for Dr Gotsche, and Dr Peter Breggin 🙏
I am one who never had flu shot. Had one mammogram. Never again.
Anything pushed so brazenly makes me back away.
I agree totally with Peter he is so honest.
Very refreshing.
This Man is a brave genius! Thank you Dr. Gotzche!
It’s easy to say folks withdrawing from SSRIs should get some qualified help, but who provides that? Nobody. And in the US, is it covered? No.
There is some free or inexpensive help….Dr. Knaus has several books on Amazon on Cognitive Behavioral Therapy that have helped me while tapering off Effexor using the harm reduction method by Dr. Peter Breggin. I’m one my four year tapering down slowly.
Nothing is covered - for those who might recover from the jerky, uncontrolled movements of Tardive Dyskinesia. Psychiatrists cause this with their drugs, while cloaked behind the plausible deniability of Standard of Care ethics!
Actually, the UK is planning to put millions of pounds into clinics that help people taper OFF these drugs. Their studies have shown psych meds do more harm than good in the majority of cases and are incredibly difficult to quit. While that doesn't help those of us in North America, it's a fine start - and one I hope other countries will soon emulate. Because yes, anyone trying to quit a benzodiazepine or psych med may well suffer the tortures of the damned as so many of us have. Facebook has a number of groups that help people taper slowly and successfully and offer support. Best of luck!
this is why people who have been through this personally should go into the field. I am and others like me need to. we care because we have lived it. we are the qualified help!
Those who have been through this - do not qualify as Freudian ideologues, but can be helpers! @@4GSLmusic
Crimes against humanity
I've experienced withdrawal from both benzos and SSRIs. They are both bad....aka, excessive anxiety, rage, etc. But hands down, benzo withdrawal was worse for me with way more strange symptoms. I also felt a physical need for benzos that I did not/do not feel with the SSRIs. I feel that I've been harmed by both and not given informed consent. Wish I never would have started any of these meds many years ago. Thank you for bringing all this to light.
Even with informed consent people are desperate for relief and many will still take them.
Thank you for sharing your experience...going through this now. I too wish I had never started. What I needed was a hell of a lot of support - physical and emotional - not these pills.
@@JacquiQ Just know that there is healing. I'm so much better now. 90% healed, I would say, and finding enjoyment in life again. Don't give up, even though it can feel like hell.
@@cassies123 how- what were your toolkit- what sources can we use.
@@fareenrazzak5906As Cassie hasn't replied, I thought I'd pass on some of the practices that helped me taper off benzos and an antidepressant and remain off them despite the hellish withdrawal symptoms. Writing my feelings out "at strength" in a journal - really let it ALL out! No-one will see, it's just for you. Learning self-hypnosis to help with sleep and pain. Using short meditations of varying types from TH-cam frequently throughout the day - they give similar effects and brain waves to sleep and can make you feel SO much better and calmer! Shaking and dancing out the emotions that flew out like fireworks after being numbed and sedated for 20 years - that was and is invaluable for pain, anxiety, challenging emotions like rage and frustration, and grief. Eating a mostly organic and non-processed food diet and drinking lots of water, the Mediterranean diet is the most balanced - but not fussing about food too much. If I wanted a treat, I bought a small one and enjoyed it! Walking in nature helps a lot. Spending less time on the computer and more time in nature or in the community made a huge difference as computers increase stress and activate the nervous system. Vagus nerve exercises Avoid caffeine and alcohol as they affect the same brain receptors that Benzo's depress and can prolong withdrawal symptoms. (I know that's hard!) I wish I'd known about the Ashton Protocol written by an English doctor who helped people taper off benzo's slowly and safely! And the many support groups on Facebook like Benzo Warriors and the internet support group, Benzo Buddies. We need to find what works for US as we all have a unique healing path, but all these have been shown to benefit people. I highly recommend Chi Gong videos, somatic tracking videos for emotions/pain/dizziness, etc, various forms of meditation apps and videos - I particularly like Chi Gong, guided visualizations, and yoga nidra. All help with the trauma and stress of withdrawal symptoms. If you're interested, I can share my favourite most helpful videos that aided me Escape from Benzo Oz and bust out of Pharma Prison! Best of luck.
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The people in charge are trying to remove things like this from internet.
Thankfully this one is STILL here 👌
I have been prescribed benzos and antisychotics. I am off the antipsychotics as i was misdiagnosed and i didn't realise how it ruined my creativity and the numbing of my emotions. As for the benzos i have been told i can't come off of them as in my doctors words you aren't mentally strong enough ! If i could sue then i would !
A family member asked all the right questions before being prescribed a Benzodiazepine on a daily basis ie are they dependency forming, will they continue to work long term, can they cause cognitive decline, etc... He was told basically that that's all a load of rubbish. He was so reassured that he took them happily and augmented the dose happily to a high dosage. Finally, the penny started to drop and he emailed the psychiatrist to explain that each time he augments the dosage it works for a while but that the anxiety etc... ramps up again after a few months. He never got a response to that email and his questions were never answered but just ignored. He is now in withdrawal and suffering intensely.
One should not ask the questions of the same people who give out the stuff to begin with...
That doctor sounds like he's from 1976 not 2024! They didn't know about it back then, but they are supposed to know now. I got addicted to it but I had an idea what I was in for. I started swiping my mom's Valium when I was only 15. I In 1978, I read a book called "I'm Dancing as Fast as I Can, about a network news producer who stopped taking Valium and went into psychosis. It was also made into a movie. She wrote the book in the mid 70s warning people of the lies we were being told about it. Even with this knowledge, I thought it wouldn't happen to me. I loved how it made me numb and shut off the self-doubt and negative self-talk I used it for 40 years. But I also became an alcoholic which made it more complicated. Every time I wanted to get sober, I was detoxed using Ativan. I was tapered off of that after 3 days, and when I went to a therapeutic rehab they wouldn't prescribe it. I had to go through withdrawal from it in rehab, and then when I got home, I would just go on it again. Countless times I did this. It's a longer story but I ended up being able to get over it in 2015. But now I'm on Effexor. I hope your relative gets through it. The fact that he hasn't been on it that long should be in his favor.
@@donnagelina8548I am SO sorry you went through that and yes, so many benzos and psych meds cause vastly more problems that they help, and help at best only temporarily. I too suffered the tortures of the damned when I tapered too rapidly off Clonazepam and Elavil, prescribed for the pain and insomnia of fibro. They had caused or worsened every problem, and I was diagnosed with 5 "incurable" diseases - that all resolved or improved dramatically 6 months to 2 years after I quit! Alas, doctors get their information from drug companies, who also fund universities and often have influence over the curriculum. Many despite the data out for 40 years still believe them "nice safe sleeping pills and anti-anxiety medication" when they're as addictive as heroin and 10 times harder to quit as withdrawals can last for years! But I'm off ALL medications now, and I got my life back! I did some grief and trauma counseling which helped a lot, and discovering the reasons why I had the symptoms and took the medications in the first place. Best of luck, and I'm so glad you were able to quit alcohol and benzo's. Effexor is just one more you will have the strength to taper when you're ready. I'm so glad I escaped from Benzo Oz and busted out of Pharma Prison!
A relative of mine was told they could suffer serious problems if they didn't take them. My relative complies for a very short time then tapered off without incident. And was absolutely fine.m, fortunately. No other help offered. Just drugs. The only tool in their toolbox and they don't seem to know how they work. I am disguted w the system.
Doctors are taught in universities funded by drug companies, which explains their ignorance and arrogance. Drug companies influence on what is taught in medical and psychiatry schools and people who aren't pro drug aren't hired. What they're taught is drug company PR rather than the data about these medications. Many doctors are horrified when they discover how little they truly know, which is appalling when the data on drugs like benzodiazepines causing brain injuries has been available for 45 years. Thankfully, there are a few honest and ethical doctors who speak out - which you can't do if you want to get funding, so I'm very grateful for doctors like Dr. Gotzsche.
As an ex-SSRI and SNRI taker I can say Peter is right. These drugs are very hard to come off. I would also like to add that some other drugs have potential psychiatric side-effects. I was prescribed the common sinus spray “Nasonex” and within a few days on it I was beginning to have suicidal ideation. I stopped it and felt better within about 48 hours. I wondered to my specialist if I was imaging this reaction and he said, “Oh, no. It’s the preservative that does effect some people.” With ALL drugs - user beware!
Thank you so much Dr Peter Gotzsche. I stopped using the name, Antidepressants. After 20 plus years on Paroxetine, I suffered deep depression and anxiety.
Hi Nigel, I've also been on paroxetine for over 20 years. In the past year, I've slowly tapered down from 40mg/day to 10mg. It's been a difficult but fascinating journey in learning more about health and healing.
Are you still on paroxetine? Curious to know how you're doing. These drugs are so tricky.
I prefer the term 'chemical lobotomies'.
Go after the people that screwed you over if thats the case. These days you don't want to catch anything, so wear a mask.
Thanks also for acknowledging problems with the vaccines. Yours may be a voice in the wilderness, but it’s still important.
There are harms with any intervention. Any vaccine can harm. The problem is that it is a choice between getting covid or taking s vaccine. There is no completely safe option. I had a heart attack with a 2 percent chance. I had contracted a mysterious virus prior to the heart attack. That was prior to any vaccine.
Dr. John Campbell has good vax info too.
@@tammyhavlik1015 after misinforming thousands of people for over a year....he's responsible for significant injury as a result. Too little too late.
Thank you so much Nicole Lamberson and Peter Gotzsche!
Luc Montesquieu, Jordan Peterson, who else can we add to this list of medical doctors that have experienced severe damage from benzodiazepines? Knowing this information and the ability to share it effectively is a terrific educational tool for us that have been similarly injured.
When did Jordan Peterson graduate from med school? Must have missed that one.
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Couldn’t help it could you? Interesting.
Yeah, um he’s a professor of psychology with a PhD and maybe not an MD.
I’m guessing you don’t like him for obvious reasons, but that’s hardly the point of my comment.
Where the hell do you people come from anyway? Under a bridge or something? Bad troll! Go home.
@@twistedsymposium3744 nope
Who is luc montesquieu please?
Think you mean Luke Montagu?
Thanks for these videos. Though they are tough to watch, they validate my feelings, give me hope and , yes, stir up so much anger!
With good reason!❤
Hi Nicole. I don’t know if you’ll ever get this , but I think you’re great. I’m just starting to listen to this. I’m about 3 weeks off 5 mg of abilify!!’ I get the haldol 50 mg haldol too. I get real
Depressed and am trying to hide the withdrawal from my family. I’m 65. I’m tired today. Went to bed about 7;30pm and woke up at 5. …. Keeping this interview on…. Wish u all well!!!
Both of you are precious 💎 thank you!
Ive great respect for Breggin. I read his boook Toxic Psychiatry and it saved my Papa friom unnecessary drugs.
I was always suspicious about the patient leaflet in SSRI's which warns of 'discontinuity symptoms' if the drug is stopped abruptly, and yet my GP would say they are not 'addictive'. It is as Dr Gotzsche says plainly semantics. In hindsight I can see that you dont really need a PhD in pharmacy, medicine, or indeed linguistics to see that. Discontinuity symptoms are withdrawals, simple as. Granted I guess it does presuppose a definition of 'addiction', but to my mind a substance is surely addictive if you get unpleasant symptoms upon stopping it abruptly. The pharmaceutical definition of addiction seems to be that because taking say 1 citalopram wont make you 'high', they are not 'addictive'. But the point is that patients are precisely made addicted to these drugs with the advice that they should take them for a minimum of 6 months to a year, and by that time for all intents and purposes they ARE addicted.
Dependence and addiction are two very different things and cause the same symptoms. Many are not addicted to these drugs as they do not crave them at all. I’ve lived it, never once craved these drugs. But our brain becomes adapted and dependent on them. Very different. We can’t mix those two terms up. That’s very dangerous.
My experience exactly. I was on Paroxetine for 22 years. ❤
@@susanmorgan4151did you manage to get off I did but still have side effects 10 years later
@@4GSLmusicI understand what you're saying, but if brain and body become addicted even when the person themselves takes the medication "as prescribed" - that's a powerfully addictive drug or it wouldn't have hellish withdrawal symptoms. The patients, however, are NOT addicts as they didn't toss down handfuls, washed down with booze, but took medically recommended doses.
there's a clear distinction between addiction and dependence. the withdrawal is upregulation and downregulation of receptors. often addiction is not even present. No cravings present. I would say the chemical action of each drug and potency depends on the drug itself. Some can come off cold turkev (not recommended obviously) or quickly and experience zero withdrawal symptoms. What's damaging with the word addiction is it places blame on a good patient for simply following drs orders. I've met addicts. they'll lie, cheat, and steal for their drugs.... people who have iatrogenic illness and withdrawal typically do not... unless there is addiction present. The feeling of withdrawal is the lack of a synthetic chemical there, which I know you know. it gets very complex, but it's possible to slowly taper patient safely. Also, looking into SERT occupancy for drugs like SSRI's is very interesting, to look at how the taper rate truly affects the patient and how much of the the drug drops. Which is thought to be the reason for withdrawal. it is hell. but I'm living proof any human can heal.
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Im waking up, thanks for the video ❤
Thank you, for bringing out the truth 🙏
There's the urgent need for informed consent. Always expose risk vs. benefits and let the people decide for themselves
Forced treatment must be abolished!
Bravoooo and many thanks for spreading the truth!
This is the best video i have ever seen....
Yes my boyfriend when we were 23 had schizophrenia and he did go mad i lived with him..he would throw me across the room. I knew it wasn't really him...they did take him from me in a straight jacket.😭😭😭 he was on lithium..and he was able to get off and was a computer graphic artist and ended up with a normal life.
Excellent stuff, thank you! 👍
Thank you so much. This is such an informative video and the issues raised are so important.
I have always been told to just stop my ADs by my British Pdocs. Even Duloxetine which is one of the type five hardest SSRIs to come off.
Any tips for titrating off duloxetine? It really hurts my mom’s stomach.
I got damaged by psychiatry in late 2006, as a comedy or errors and some intrigue. I get to struggle with Drug Induced Parkinson's, as a cynical expression and discount. No one was supposed to know what medication I got, about 30 grams of Lithium and Risperdal over 4-5 weeks.
Have you found anyone with reccomendations to reverse it?
I have found Vitamin B1 Thiamine and Vitamin B spectrum supplements to be very helpful. I was prompted by a video "Fighting Parkinson's Disease with Vitamin B1: Interview with Author Daphne Bryan". It contains a video clip of treated patients at about the 2:30 minute mark. @@tammyhavlik1015
@@tammyhavlik1015 Iodine helps in removing stuff from your system.
Wow. This is such an affirming discussion. I firmly believe that abuse which includes financial has a huge effect on our mrntal and physical health.
Heartbreaking.
Eugenics Medicine
One big experiment on we the people
I appreciate you.
I’d love to see all these psychiatrists taking the meds they prescribe & then taken off cold turkey! I think pharma & psychiatrists are responsible for many deaths due to these issues! How can they care so little for their fellow human beings? For the damn money? They couldn’t possible spend all they’ve made!
Exactly my feeling!!
I think you have hit upon the "Perfect Punishment" no only for the "psycho-tists" who invented and prescribe their poison but those NWO/WEF/WHO/CDC/NIAID, State Medical Boards and the large Hospital Chains whose Covid 19 protocol killed millions around the world!
Psychiatrists are just garbage type of people. They have no compassion, no morality, no ethics.
Peter Gøtzsche is a hero!
Læger uden sponsor (doctors without sponsors) are heroes!
1st time i took a flu shot was the 1st time i had a lung infection 4 months later. I never took a 2nd. I stopped shots after 4th Covd MRNA ones. Hopefully i havent damaged myself. So far i apoear to have been lucky.
Thank you so much for that information
Is there an audio book? Through these withdrawal even with a safe taper I can barely focus on my own breath
Thanks
Listened to the end but no alternative offered. What are people supposed to do when struggling with a sever psychotic situation?
Support. Social support from a compassionate community prevents trauma from becoming mental illness 100% of the time. It also helps the mentally ill heal. How to find a supportive community... ? No idea.
Please, find a solution for withdrawal. I have been in withdrawal for 17 months now, please help
I think that you need to accept that you are going through withdrawal, and realise that it won't last forever; you will get past it. Try to help yourself by rewarding yourself with something that will make you feel good.
Dr Peter Breggin always recommends to reduce your drugs (meds) slowly over a period of time.
So many young people are often prescribed antipsychotics for symptoms they felt pressured to admit, even if their understanding of those symptoms differs or they were reported by someone with limited vocabulary. After years of treatment, the result can be tardive dyskinesia, a debilitating condition caused by the misdiagnosis. Who is responsible? Unfortunately, no one can be held accountable, as the misdiagnosis has been entrenched for decades.
Saw the movie, excellent!
Without antidepressants I would of done the dutch already. I don't like to drink them but side effect not as bad as depression and anxiety. I take benzo sometime. But agree with Doc that mental patient given too many dangerous drug
How about trying trying something holistic
Sadly, many psychiatrists still tell people that ssris are not addictive..this is so terrible! Especially the young people are in great danger when they are told such things by "doctors", this infuriates me so much, there is so much suffering created by this system which would not be there otherwise, instead of helping it ruins peoples' lives. 💔
They actually aren't addictive, by definition. This is where the importance of terminology comes in. They cause physical dependence.
@MedicatingNormal the same as with tabbaco then, would anyone say it is not addictive?? And for these drugs which cause so much damage, who gave them the right to fool and hurt people they are supposed to heal, by playing semantic games? It is clearly a deception and misuse of authority on mass scale.
No meu país funciona assim: Você recebe uma prescrição em um hospital público, muitas vezes sem ao menos ter contato direto com o médico ou psiquiatra, a avaliação é feita por técnicos de enfermagem muitas das vezes, e passa a tomar essa medicação indefinidamente, você apenas vai no posto de saúde pegar a medicação, não é feito nenhum acompanhamento.
Conheço pessoas que tomaram psicotrópicos por toda a vida e nunca foram avaliadas adequadamente.
Por aqui fluoxetina e paaxil são distribuídos pelo governo como se fosse aspirina.
_Translation of Eduardo's post_ "In my country it works like this: You get a prescription in a public hospital, many times without even having direct contact with the doctor or psychiatrist, the evaluation is done by nursing technicians many times, and you start taking this medication indefinitely, you just go to the health center to get the medication, no follow-up is done.
I know people who have taken psychotropic drugs all their lives and have never been evaluated properly.
Around here fluoxetine and paaxil are distributed by the government as if they were aspirin."
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Typical of government run places!
Você está falando do Brasil?
29:20 medication spellbinding
I tried to "like" this video, but the "like" button isn't working. Why is this?
Not sure! Try refreshing the page, perhaps? It worked for us!
@@MedicatingNormal - I went back and tried again and this time was able to "like." Thanks again for a great interview! I wish your important content had a much larger audience.
Really interesting, the thing is once your dependent on a benzo, there's hope you can get off it, i hope.
You can do it. It hurts like hell. But subsides after about 5 years.
In Czech Republic is a lady who is the owner of 7 Pharma stores,
she made an interview about a year ago, after the covid, saying that often she meets elderly people
She is telling them good advice, please get off the medications as much as possible,
Dont watch the news at night, to get nervous, because it triggers you to eat sleep pills,
Rather spend time in nature, go for a walk, exercise.
Even pharma owners as she is, are against the overuse of drugs. She saw an elderly couple eating the same set of drugs, because it was convenient for the couple, to go to a pharma store and save time, or whatever reason they had. Dont be fooled by the system. Its ridiculous. Two people can not have the same diagnosis.
They may have the same symptoms from the same drugs... But not the same cause of illness. Everybody is different.
Drugs should be short-term, but not long-term.
Drugs should heal, not cause other health problems.
Thanks for this interview. I would just have liked a bit more hope of recovery for who stopped the drugs and still suffer the wd.
Yea, I wish there would be more information about treatments that actually work. Meds, cbt, meditation, exercise, etc are not the "actual" treatment for mental illnesses. Is there really no proven way to treat the root of these disorders and keep them away for good?
@@suzychocolate7 I would recommend that you find a holistic doctor, one who is interested in finding the root cause AND treat it rather than the symptoms.
All the best.
Check out Chris Palmer - he’s all over TH-cam - and his use of the Ketogenic diet- he gives hope!!
thank you both, I have recently found your channel. the last close to 2.5yrs of mine have been a fight to gain back my brain after what I believe was one of the most unethical treatments of my life. I had no idea the meds I have been on over 15 years, my adult life, were so dangerous. I had a psychiatric dr cold turkey me off 400mg Lamictal, 2mg/xanax, 40mg Lexapro and 12.5of ambien daily. w/I a week I was begging to save my brain, w/I 2, I was unable to answer questions and would forget what I was saying mid sentence. I started have ambulatory problems, brain zaps, intense panic and then a full psychotic break. w/I 4 weeks, I could only say Beep and Boop. and he discharged me from his "care". it's taken me this long to formulate cogent ideas, I have panic attacks out of nowhere, phantom pains, dereliction (I often fear that I died under his care but was reincarnated in the same body)... but now, I'm angry. My general practioner scrambled to get me back on my med regime which had me stable my whole adult life, but I suspected that I had severe brain damage. The last few weeks, I happened to stumble upon benzo injuries and have extrapolated that I clearly have that, but suspect that due to the heavy psychiatric regimen I was, not only the benzo, but each medication carried the same destructive capabilities. my regular psychiatrist thinks that said doctor was completely inhumane and has no idea how any circumstances would warrant such a drastic change given that each med needs to be carefully withdrawn over months, maybe years. I have longer bouts of clarity now, buy the growing anger is palpable. am I wrong to consider this akin to medical malpractice? I had 4 bachelor's and a master's specialization on my previous brain.
Sad. You'll recover.
The material world is such a cruel place to be. Those doctors who should give solace to suffering people are geting them into even much bigger problems. My personal advice is to chant Hare Krsna mahamantra and gradualy recover developing the mode of goodness taking care of oneself and those around. Depression pills could have damaged the brain and body but they cannot harm the Supersoul. And every living being is a spiritual soul. The body is just an instrument. Do not worry if the instrument is not fit to enjoy in this world. Just try to get the hell out of it developing the apropriate knowledge. Life is not just about eating, sleeping, mating and defending. Hare Krsna!
So what is the answer for people with severe depression or other mental disorders? I know what you don't approve of but what is your alternative?
Respect.
The alternative is the No-Plant Gaps Nutritional Protocol by Dr.Natasha Campbell McBride. It cures severe mental illness by healing the gut.
Never argue with doctors. Why are you going to doctors? Start there. The people pleasing and BELIEF in ‘experts’ leads to these defensive postures. Why not go for a walk instead? Count your blessings! Walk barefoot. Be glad that you’re alive!
Walk barefoot in the sun, drink clean water, avoid processed foods, and sleep in real darkness. Try to minimize the amt of pharmaceuticals. It’s amazing how many ailments will resolve with a proper diet…. But you must find a doctor who understands the value of “de-prescribing”.
No doctor knows how
been on meds for 26 years
on clozapine for 15
came off them and have not slept for a month 2 weeks and 2 days. my body is going bad.my nightmares won't let me sleep. no drugs
if anyone has any ideas for me please let me know. 🙏god bless
Go watch the insomnia coach. Get on a schedule of rest and try not to worry.
@@wednesdayschild3627 thank you 🙏
@@ScottTheKrusher how are you doing?
Get off sugar. There's a psych Dr on YT that talks about this. Christopher Palmer
My opiniom is that you’re brain has adapted to those drugs and youre dependant, it takes time to unadjust it, it took months but has led me to health, i weny through. Strong depresion as well, my husband provided me food, i did not wash myself, ate only vege first months, it was hell, never begore felt So bad
Psychiatry is a vehicule for eugenism
Who made the withdraw and how? Please share.
I want to withdraw from invega sustenna after 4 months is it safe pls answer me.i was taking drugs and now i stop it .
Some people take invega sustenna injection for 4 months and we are going down gradually with dozes is it safe to stop it after six months.Afraid from relapse.please neex an advice.
So true. This industry destroyd my whole life. But I dont give up. 60 years before the life and intelligence of our mother was damaged. Nothing had really changed. I have to live with my depressions and now in older age with poverty because not able to find a job l anymore. What doing? Fresh air. Running, swimming and cycling, learning. Trying to eat biological good food. Some doctors I guess together with some people "addicted" to power and stupidness of capitalism are not healing they are destroying talents. To those who are harmed by psychiatry: You can go out of this. Depressions has reasons mostly trauma, dont give up, look for good friends and good psychotherapies. Thanks for telling the truth.
The wounded surgeon plies the steel
That questions the distempered part;
Beneath the bleeding hands we feel
The sharp compassion of the healer’s art Resolving the enigma of the fever chart.
Our only health is the disease
If we obey the dying nurse
Whose constant care is not to please
But remind of our, and Adam’s curse,
And that, to be restored, our sickness must grow worse.
The whole earth is our hospital
Endowed by the ruined millionaire
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Can't google Luc Montaigu at all( with different spellings) , nor find him on TH-cam... so either all info is censored or you have mistaken the name . Wasn't it Luc Montagnier, the French Nobel prize you ment?
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If I am asked, "Have you had your flu shot". I reply, "Is my name on it? Did I ask for it"? Or, why do you ask? Have you had a flu shot? Does it make you feel safe? ARe you sorry for taking it.??? etc. etc.
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My son ended up in a mental hospital for 7 months after stopping his clozapine. They did court ordered electric shock treatment to get him to agree to take the clozapine again. He is stable and back home but he calls his medication fentanyl because he says it’s bad and going to killing him. I’m looking into magic mushrooms to see if they can help him. He says he’s going to just kill himself in the future.
How is your son doing? Is he an adult or child?
I’m so sorry, the govt institutions & the courts are working against parents & families. Often at the behest of pharma interests.
You sound like a loving, committed parent- God Bless!
@@MK-ih6wp he is hard to live with. He is 39 but acts like he’s 14. I wish I could figure out how to make his brain improve. I’d like him to try a keto/ carnivore way of eating to see if it would help.
As usual l have to point out that neuroleptics are every bit as addictive as benzos or SSRIs and just as dangerous.
Yes, and our channel reflects that. There are many videos about the other drug classes, aside from benzos.
Also, 'addictive' is really the wrong term. The drugs mostly cause prescribed physical dependence. Addiction or 'substance use disorder,' as they call it now, has a behavioral component that is often not present in those taking their prescribed medications as directed.
@@MedicatingNormal l have a very strong dépendance on neuroleptics but l have never ever given my consent. These drugs have been used on me uniquely by force and coercion. If l come off too quickly l can be a danger to myself or others. Let’s say It’s a form of addiction and most certainly a very strong dependance.
I was on neuroleptic - olanzapine. I stopped taking them secretly. I just spit them. Do you think it's dangerous to quit them cold turkey? I just feel myself so good without them that I don't want to take them
@@MedicatingNormal The fact that if l stop the drugs abruptly l will,after approximately 8 weeks, have behavioural issues from my physical dependance to them seems very much like addiction to me. For the moment if l don't get a dose regularly, l literally go mad, if that's not a form of addiction, l really don't know what is...
@@johnherbert6497 it's literally the definition of physical dependence. Withdrawal symptoms do not equal addiction by definition. Addiction has a behavioral component - are you stealing to get your drug in spite of consequences? Are you using it to get high? Are you able to taper it slowly, with control, without going on a bender and taking 5x as much as you were prescribed? Your answers to those questions indicate if you're addicted or just physically dependent.
Thank you! Watching from Denmark ...
Ha ha prolonged grief disorder. My natural time is 6 months to 2yrs. Usually18 months every single time. I never took a drug. Icried talked alot an awful lot. Others might have liked me to shut it. I didnt. Lost potential friends. I now think they were too weak to support me and preferred to label me with self pity or depression. They were ALL wrong. Im fine now. It just took 18 mnths. That was MY NORMAL each time.
Medical spellbinding. 😢
How can I come back in my next incarnation and have Peter S my father
The damage to fertility and sexual ability is true for the adhd drug methylphenidate (ritalin) as well.
Im coming off ritalin...im mad at myself for taking it.
@@aprilhassell1747 I hear you. I feel so stupid. And violated.
How did it affect you? Here if you want to talk. Can chat privately too. Edit: It's been 14 months since for me, if you want to know anything just ask.
@TheDavveponken are you currently on any other medication? Ive only taken concerta. But before that my lifestyle was horrible and was a big drinker for 20 years. Thanks for being so nice. I might take you up on that chat. Im in United States...you?
@@aprilhassell1747 I'm on 5mg cialis daily as I've read it's good for vascular health (for sexual dysfunction, stroke patients and atherosclerosis) and it seems to help. Exercise helps too ofc. I've been taking it on and off for a few months now, but only daily for about a week as I felt I had to do something to speed the process along. Headaches and blunting have been bad. In hindsight I should have been on it sooner, but I was apprehensive of taking another drug doled out carelessly. I also take vitamin and mineral supplements including NO (nitric oxide) promoting amino acids such as l-arginine and l-citrulline, among others, which help vasodilation and regeneration.
My lifestyle was getting better during the year before I started the drug, but before that I had neglected my health for a number of years due to various stressors, student, shitty job, shitty girlfriends^^ I should have realised my problem was just my shitty situation and relationships (parents included). But I digress! I'm in Sweden. But I'm sure we could arrange something. And no problem. There aren't many whom understand what we're going through.
Let me know if you want to know more about what I take. Cialis and NO-related amino acids could potentially be dangerous together, they drop blood pressure, so make sure to be careful.
Edit: acupuncture also helped me. Anything to activate the parasympathetic nervous system (calm/healing). I've got so much to say on the topic I'm considering making a video:/blog...
Ok dropping the mood stabilizers on 3 2 1. All is now peachy
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What is everyone's experience with ambien? I know it can be addictive, but is it harmful otherwise?
Hi, The Ashton Manual mentions Ambien (which is a Z-drug). You can see in the manual that the Z-drugs have a Valium equivalent for tapering. Ashton says, "These drugs are chemically different from benzodiazepines but have the same effects on the body and act by the same mechanisms." See: www.benzo.org.uk/manual
Also, there's a difference between addiction and physical dependence. Mostly, benzodiazepines and Z-drugs cause physical dependence and not addiction. True addiciton, or substance use disorder, from benzodiazepines is quite rare (about 2% of users in one study).
Ambien makes people forget they are awake. Researchers were watched insomniacs on camera, and they did not sleep any better. They just forget they are awake. Being forgetful cannot be good.
@@wednesdayschild3627Absolutely true. Ambien induces amnesia for me, it doesn’t seem like i’m sleeping any better on it.
@@MedicatingNormal - i'm addicted to ambien- I crave and crave more each day - From 1 to 6 to 7- lost everything...need help. there should be more informed consent. They didn't tell me this.
I did not want mental health professionals forcing me to accept my labels and illness for 10years i was monitored inorder to accept my label and understand that i needed to take their drugs for the rest of my life....in other words i needed to take responsibility for my life and take my meds...it was against my will...here in Australia...these drugs made me disabled and unable to work...
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Oh the DSM. Effing crazy manual. It toom me 18 months to get over each pet i had that died. I wasnt crazy. I was just being me.
Do people feel as negatively about cannabis as SSRI drugs? I know people who self medicate on cannabis 🤔
Psychologist killed my brother with their drug treatments, by suicide
Their "medicine" based on a lie and cherry-picked results. Studies show that invalidation/gaslighting causes depression, and the "chemical emballance theory" has been solidly and repeatedly debunked. But, they're still pushing these neutoxic placebos.
Clearly medications can be very harmful long term. But it's also true that severe depression & anxiety does not go into remission without them. Many people simply cannot function without psychiatric drugs. Also, alternative treatments cannot even begin to make a dent in moderate to acute cases.
It seems to me that we are no further ahead of understanding & treating poor mental health than we were in 50's
"severe depression and anxiety does not go into remission without psychiatric drugs"
Anyone who's studied trauma, meditation, and brain neuroplasticity would respectfully disagree.
Psych drugs are one form of treatment, best reserved for intense states of mind and even then, for only a short amount of time. Beyond that, psych drugs mask and repress our emotions which makes any true healing very difficult.
@@cowboyjohnsontown @chrishoughtonart - Well, I speak for myself, my two parents, my four siblings and a few friends who never experienced remission without drugs. It's true psych drugs mask & repress our emotions, but that's a HELL of a lot better way to go through life than living with relentless unbearable torture of Severe, Chronic Depression. As far as healing without drugs, I've given it 64 years so far, any idea how much longer I should give it?
@@montesa9136 I absolutely hear you. And I'm sorry to hear you and multiple family members have suffered like you have. I also can only speak through personal experience. I've been on antidepressant for 23 years but a few years ago had a horrible reaction to a doubling of my dosage. I eventually learned more about SSRIs and realized maybe they were getting in the way and actually making my symptoms worse in the long run. I also experienced mania and suicidal thoughts when my dosage of paroxetine was doubled.
This experience led me to learning about things like meditation, yoga, trying an anti-inflammatory diet, cannabis, journaling, cold therapy, etc. These practices not only help with symptoms but some seem to help get to the root cause of the fear or trauma.
I wish you well and certainly don't mean to invalidate your experience. I certainly defended my antidepressant for years because it DID help me! The problem was that the pills helped me but eventually started hurting me. And once you're on the pills, it's difficult to get off because one must fight thru physical dependency/withdrawal while also facing the underlying issues that made the person get on the pills in the first place. 🙏
@@cowboyjohnsontown @chrishoughtonart - Wow! Your comment is by far the most honest & understanding I've ever had. I'm glad you are finding some success in your alternative treatments. I've tried them all but found them useless. I believe in my case there is no underlying cause for depression, other than everyone in my family has it. Without a doubt when 6 people have it there is a strong genetic component to the disease. Nothing will ever change that!
I'm looking forward to my decision to go ahead with Physician Assisted Suicide. I believer poor mental health leaves most of us in impossible situations where we spend your entire life trying every treatment possible, clinging to the false hope that one day we will live a normal life. Personally, I don't know a single person who has risen above this insidious disease & gone on to realize their goals
@@montesa9136 I appreciate your reply and my heart goes out to you. If I could recommend one book to you, it would be "Your Drug May Be Your Problem" by Dr. Cohen and Dr. Bregin. It's an in-depth read about how psych drugs can exacerbate mental health issues, including suicidal ideation. My SSRI made me suicidal for months and months and I was convinced it was simply my "broken brain" and my preexisting "chemical imbalance." I've since learned that psych drugs can cause all sorts of chemical imbalances in our brains and it makes it very difficult to distinguish what is a "mental health" symptom and what might simply be a side effect of these powerful psych drugs.
I would also respectfully suggest you look into a simple gut health regimen. Eating a strict non-inflammatory diet and adding in pre/probiotics can do wonders for depression. Most of our serotonin lives in our guts, rather than our brains so diet has a massive influence on how we feel. You may have gut issues or food sensitivities that are worsening your symptoms.
I wish you love, strength, and support. Life can be so difficult and I can hear how much you've already struggled. I'll keep you and your progress in my prayers. 💚
@25:36
New York Times article When Rage Explodes zBrain Damage May Be The Cause." 1990.
Double like ...
One thing he is wrong is that for severe bipolar and schizophrenics meds are the difference between life and jail
Mentally I’ll people don’t go to jail. Dialysis is not worth feeling dead every day.
Actually you are wrong about schizophrenia. Studies shows that if drugs given only if necessary outcomes of schizophrenia better than with constant use of neuroleptics. You can google Whitaker A schizophrenia mystery solved
I wanted to say that my father used to hit my mother! and they were a broken glasses and broken plates that went flying! And one of them hit my sisters eyebrow! She was four years old and she was bleeding! This is the way I grew up! All the time fighting and I was so afraid of my father, he would beat us for no reason for stupid things! This is how I grew up!😢
Psychiatry killed me via constipation
I too have constipation after having anti psychotics .
@@hnp706a dear friend has convinced me that constipation is often caused by unbalanced electrolytes. I think he is actually on to something.
Can you invest in one of those electrolyte powders? Like LMNT? They sell some at Costco.
Yeah Dr....I’ll just go through years of the agony of withdrawal symptoms after 30 years of being on a supermarket of drugs,with the very very very slim chance of one day feeling a bit better.From a 60 yr old sufferer of Clinical ptsd depression...and a host of chronic physical diseases...bulldust Buddy.Heard it all before.Send in another QUACK!!!
I believe if that is working for you then stay on it, absolutely. I am in a similar situation, however, on only one Effexor. But I went through Klonopin withdrawal 9 years ago and I don't want to go through anything like that again. I have absolutely no problem taking the medication for the rest of my life. I just have, in the back of my mind, a concern that a time might come when it will be unavailable (any number of scenarios; natural disaster, civil emergency, etc.).The last thing I would want to experience at 63 years old, is having no access to my medication in a situation where having my wits intact would be the most crucial.
Also we didn't want to do the injection again because even though her symptoms were gone she was like a zombie.
Lol the origin of religions. Hearing voices. Pity the vouce didnt say dont tell anyone and we would be better off
@Yyamma123, Pro found!