Yes torture with AD and AP cause emotional blunting and incurable side effects, brain damage, erectil dysfunction. This shit is called help and therapy. Psychiatrists are monsters.
@@clausmehl8731 Psychiatrists have been enabled to brand people with disease-like labels, then neurotoxic drugs or ECT - while proclaiming how much they are "helping" people. Actually, these doctors are helping themselves - by creating long term cash cows!
The majority of psychiatry intentionally cause conditions that cause or make people worse whom they have already diagnosed mentally ill. Anyone who refuses to take Anti-Psychotic drugs are denied all other mental health services and that includes losing or being denied housing, and they will be persecuted even if it is denied and does not appear that way.
Right off the bat Peter Goesche says he bases in science anything not his own. I have seen other vids of his and his own ideas do not include spirituality and he can be very cold, impersonal towards suffering. He has not attempted to include God in anything he does, and even anything that resembles humanitarian thought, such as discussing abuse of the mentally ill in his talks is all based on scientific fact gathering about it, and not any personal concern.
Yes, any normal mental emotional reactions to awful/scary situations..yet the psychology system's worst flaw seems to be gaslighting people for perceived overreactions. That is controlling/intrusive/unfounded, abusive and dangerous
I survived a hurricane back in 1995. Traumatic for sure but nothing some counseling couldn't have helped. Put onto these poisons and spent the next two decades gradually losing myself and my life. I am now 4 months post-taper. I am gradually emerging. This is a global holocaust that must not only end but the perpetrators brought to justice.
@@TheVaporChronicles Thank you for this. Today is my 54th birthday. 3rd birthday in this compromised state. I am grateful to no longer be languishing in the 9th circle of hell that was my reality from June 2016- December 2018. Maybe by my next birthday I will be free. Thanks again for the encouragement.
You are so brave to have walked through the hell of this kind of drug withdrawal; and I'm happy to report, there's new life after psych med injury - as it sounds like you're finding. Congratulations! Many cannot get off their drugs, especially the elderly, because the withdrawals could end their life. I withdrew from a tricyclic antidepressant and a benzo one right after the other (then prednisone withdrawal), and it almost took me out. I'm and RN, so I've experience both treating patients with these drugs and being a patient myself ... I've never felt so strong and resolute about the HOAX that psychiatric mediation is.
@@ryanhikes14ers Thanks so much for your words here Ryan. I am so proud of you knowing personally what endurance is required to pull through something as unfathomable as this injury. Like you I had consecutive psych drug injuries which certainly compounds the healing process. But I am glad to report that today, at 14.5 months post benzodiazepine taper I am actually recognizing real recovery. As you know the injury itself is only half the story. The dismissal from the medical establishment is a whole other aspect of this. You're in a unique position being an RN in that MDs may be more apt to listen to warnings from a colleague as opposed to laypeople. But even with that I do my part every chance I get to plant the seeds of warning to all that will hear me.
What a hero this man is. I am surprised he has not died or disappeared mysteriously yet. I will buy all of his books before they are taken off the market
Psychiatrists are criminals they should be in prison. The harm they have done to millions of people with fraud in the name of helping them is crimes against humanity.
@@capresti3537 remember when using LEECHES to drain blood was the "standard" of care??? Those doctors were not crooked or evil in intention. Rather, they were brainwashed into that practice as a sensible thing to do...😉😃
@@OnlineMD After years of clinical experience with patients and no cure and only harm, psychiatrists continue to drug and harm their patients with pseudoscience not caring of the harm they do.
Exactly, that is the business model of big Pharma, recurring revenues. Exactly what they hope to achieve with yearly flu vaccines, would be nice for big Pharma profits if those were government mandated too. Where getting there...
@@RHTWiese thank you for agreeing. Official sides like deutsche depressionshilfe try to push people to seek help by psychiatrists. They prefer to say depression is a chemical imbalance which have to be treatet with psychopharmaka.
A rude and awful neurologist in MN put my mother with early onset dementia/Alzheimer’s on these antipsychotics and dementia drugs and she died within 4 years at 65. Thank you for this information.
@@joshuahandfinger9154 This is the Professional Ethics of textbook doctors- who are too hubristic to think about the real effects of what they're doing to people. Peter Gotzsche calls this Organized Denial!
And her cause of death was not declared as the drugs, but as something else. It is amazing how the mortality statistics officially state not a single person dies from adverse drug events.
That disturbed woman who was screaming was treated with the utmost respect, a stunning example of human decency. In contrast, in any psych hospital, the animalistic staff would have immediately escalated the matter, which would then be disingenuously used as an excuse to drug the person against their will, traumatizing them deeply. They would then be gaslit into believing that it was the only thing that could have been done. Outstanding behavior by everyone in the room. True role models.
Harry Stack Sullivan would have sat her down - and started to talk to her, about what was bothering here and then about possible changes. Like Wayne Dyer, Sullivan was of agapeic intention - and was not for Triage modeled custodial debasement!
Oh, come on, you both exaggerate. I do understand him. He was very focused on his presentation and she just burst into his speech. Of course it disturbs. Otherwise he could have let her say very shortly what she wanted and and reply - hey, I really need to focus on my presentation. Please forward you questions first after the presentation. It's impossible for me to answer them now - Instead he was just trying to overpower her with his voice and silence her as if she attacked him. She was already saying sorry and seemed to understand the situation. - He, annoyed, still utters: 'Could you be quiet?!' meaning shut up finally! He could definitely have handled it in a way more relaxed/human way. I found it annoying how he treated her - like a small child that has to shut up right away. - Otherwise she burst into his presentation without raising her hand and kept blathering. Just disturbing...
Not sure what you are talking about - just as he was discussing involuntary confinement he was requesting that the woman be escorted away from the space...
I experienced tremendous stress in a toxic workplace. The doctor tried to put me on powerful psychiatric meds and told me to consider disability so I could heal. I thought to myself she is nuts! Walked out and never went back. She only saw $$$$. Could not have cared less about healing.Haven’t seen a doctor in years.
I was put on a cocktel of drugs for asking for help with my family's abuse. When I asked for help with the numerous physical issues the drugs caused me, the doctors gaslighted me. When I asked my psych for a brain scan after reading about the fact that APs are linked to cerebral atrophy, she refused. When I got a scan despite her refusal and it showed cortico-subcortical brain atrophy, she ghosted me. The neurologist and the other doctors gaslighted me about it, saying that "it wasn't that bad", that it was my fault for being ill and that I had to "eat healthy, exercise and study". My gaslighty family took the doctor's side. When I complained about the drugs and the gaslighting, the doctors put on my charts that I needed psychiatric intervention even after knowing about the psych drugs. I have had doctors that have gaslighted me about the brain atrophy even after the scans showed up, saying that "the scans were wrong because I have a big skull" or that "that kind of test cannot show brain damage", and when shown that the test is actually one that can show brain damage, they'd move on with their next gaslighty tactic. Invalidation -> minimization -> victim blaming. I lost my 4 grandparents and my dog while I was unconscious from those drugs. I'm still recovering my consciousness after 8 years in the drug limbo. I'm scared of becoming aware of this only for them to use my reaction as an excuse to harm me even more. I lost my university degree and I became economically dependant on my family due to this. My dog was diagnosed with cancer and I begged them to take me off those drugs so I could give him a proper goodbye and they coerced me into taking them for another whole year. He died that year. He died in my arms while I was completely gone. I had terrible thoughts with those drugs that I never had before and I lost my reality to the point that I didn't know what emotions were anymore. I experience a level of inhumanity from my family and the doctors that I never even deemed possible.
I also was treated in Monash medical hospital, Clayton, Melbourne in the early 1990s !!! Im still deeply scared by the inhumane treatment i received . I was given a cocktail of drugs and shock treatments against my will or concent. Only for the fact my mother and family discovered I was being held by them against my will I dont think i would be here today!! I completely lost myself, the treatment rendered me a totally broken shell of a human being a dribbling psychotic wreck. Unfortunately my Mom has passed away as have the other amazing people fighting my corner against monash medical Centre.In recent times I have tried with the help of a physiatrist to get hold of my records from Monash hospital archives only to be told they have no record of me, which I find so deeply offensive and deeply traumatic considering the harm they caused myself and my family. I consider the treatment and harm done to me a crime against humanity. Thank you for posting this amazing talk.
Antipsychotics create disability, dysfunction and lifelong patients. Shockingly in UK people aren't being given the choice and are routinely forced these neurotoxic drugs in the community, they aren't afforded the same rights as a criminal has in court.
these are the biggest drug dealers out there I ws on citlpram for 3 months and it caused mayhem and akathisia please do not take these life destroying drugs when I get better I'm going to put my life in to education to people about these drugs thxs to TH-cam for this
Salute to Peter for holding a firm stance against the religious secterism going on in psychiatry. Psychiatry is a ridiculously flawed field of "science"
I do not consult doctors or take prescription drugs of any kind. I do take supplements and herbal. I'm 76, in good health, normal weight and usually walk 20 to 25 miles/week. I'm also cooking every meal from scratch with fresh vegetables, fish or meat, herbs!
@@madelynhernandez7453 That's EXACTLY the point that Mr. Stutz & I were addressing on another feature RE: psych meds (u made a comment that I construed as a "pro-psych med" stance). If u might recall; I replied 2 u by saying "Excuse me? Did I miss something here?" Again; u & I r in complete agreement RE: the harmful effects of psych meds. I outta know; having been on 30+ different psych meds (starting w/Ritalin @ age 4 in 1971) ovr a 40+ yr period b4 becoming psych med-free on 1/1/2017. The cumulative negative side effects practically did me in yet the medical/mental health personnel were so dismissive 2wardsy my concerns & my family (especially my parents whom r an "only child" from their respective families whereas I have an older sister) believed the medical advice that was gvn RE: the "benefits" of psych meds outweighing the negative side effects. They couldn't care less how the psych meds negatively affected me.
There is no accountability in the Mental Health Industry {their term} - for helping the patient develop a mental and emotional cathexis - which is what mental health is. Yet, what psychiatrists are actually doing to patients is not a waste of time - since making people into cash cows is both Ethical and enriching!
@@billybandyk0720 Ya Billy! Everyone can develop a mental & emotional cathexis and then become a happy genius - while not becoming cash cows within a top-down feudal system!
@@billybandyk0720 Training and educating people would also be good employment opportunities. If former Michael Landon were in charge of Mental Health - that would be his System!
BRILLIANT PRESENTATION Comment from someone who has been threatened by her Medical physician with the NEWEST PSYCHIATRIC DISORDER: *"PATIENT NONCOMPLIANCE SYNDROME"* Why...? I ask questions. I research. I am responsible for my personal decisions. @WriterMaven
@@vxvp5642 The worst anyone can threaten me with is this new label. My medical history and the decisions I made speak for itself. Every physician who ever said, find a new doctor if you won't do as I say has lived to regret it. One even said everything I ever said is 100% accurate as medical tests & exrays have shown. He suggested I seek alternative treatments and holistic medical treatments! I am NOT against western medicine per se. I ➡️♾AM AGAINST naking deities out of practitioners out of conventional western medicine/♾⬅️!
There were 384 Disorders in DSM5. After the Penn State sex scandal of 2011, psychiatrists voted in Histrionic Personality Disorder for 385 - instead of child molestation. Is Patient Noncompliance Syndrome now #386?!
That woman that interupted is what a victim of the psychiatric industry looks like. That woman probably experienced years maybe decades of mistreatment against her will if you listen to what she says 42:45. Thats the kind of trauma the psychiatric industry creates. The medical industry shouldnt invalidate people and mistreat them with drugs . It creates that kind of outburst and pain. Hope she finds her peace.
Thanks Peter one of the few voices of "Reason" we have in this World when it comes to pointing out the facts about Psychiatric drug treatment. I also thank Robert Whitaker for all the good work he has done in this field as well. Sad that their was a women interrupting this presentation. I do understand her frustration. sadly i feel it will take many years before we get real action especially with regards forced psychiatric treatment. Governments like my own like to use Psychiatry as a form of control over the populous so its not going to be easy it will take time. Don't worry the truth will come out in the end it always dose! And human rights will also win out in the end i hope their is to much at stake here!
Hi cameron E, I was the outspoken lady listening to Peter talk and I have had years on psychiatric drugs and since 2010 have been attempting to become drug free and still I am on an even higher dose of Haldol injection. I do get psychotic and have since the age of 17 and am now 67 this year 2019 but I haven't given up attempting to be drug free and I haven't given up on my son who feels he has been damaged by psychiatry and that his life is very limited. It is so true we have a way to go but like others who have fought for justice time will out and we will succeed just like you say in your comment too. The very best Anne
@@annewatmough9163 hun-high dose vitamin c helped me out of protracted withdrawal HELL-brain damage etc-please try it xxx also use coconut oil everyday.And caster oil-pour into a bath and let it soak in.Try the keto diet-lots of fats-and juice lettuce with a juicer-I know it’s sounds simple but this can be powerful x
You're legislating misbehavior, organising it, and calling it a medical disease. There's strict criteria on what constitutes a disease. Dealing w_ syndromes or disorders.
@@annewatmough9163 forced psychiatric drugging is one of the worst evil laws governments like to engage in they (government) think that it answers alot of problems but in the end it only causes alot more problems and solves nothing... forced treatment will have to go the way of the dinosaurs and become extinct of humanity is to move forward and human rights just have to come first and foremost its just that important and that simple... Keep fighting to be drug free its the only way to be Anne!
THANK YOU THAT SOMEONE IS STANDING UP AGAINST THESE POISONS, AND THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY, COVER UPS, & REFUSAL TO EVEN HELP THOSE WHO ARE HARMED....(through denial that the drug has harmed them ! )
Have you seen the Tucker Carlson Show of 7/25/22 - on SSRIs, etc.? Also, Allen Francis said, "Psych drugs cause mass shootings" - after the Sandy Hook massacre of 26 in 2011. Maybe Francis learned something after his installment of DSM-4, that James Davies covers in his DSM video!
Two people i know spontaneously tipped into florid psychosis after 6 - 8 months on ssris. Of course then they were given antipsychotics. Both were grieving loss of loved ones.
I had diagnosed with depression when i went through tine off my life divorce. Loosing home. Parent death... stupid gp wrote this on my files... i told her i grieve plus in my cultur it takes up to 2 years... so what the hell... shocking .. hate psychitry more and more
I pray. Nuremberg code. Patient rights are ignored. Courts force cruel and unusual punishment for grief or upset by abuse behavior labeling human emotions as being bad and no compassion just blame and shamed and poison Forced. Criminal behavior by deception and evil forces.
Have wondered this for years What makes babies & toddlers & many of children in their preteens happy, giggly, jolly for no apparent reason most of the time Prerequisites merely being not hungry, hurt & not sick There's got to be some natural chemical balance that does this
Prozac gave me terrible anxiety. They changed to Cytalapram which was even worse and after reassurance that it didnt cause anxiety. I was told that if I didnt carry on for two years it would make things worse. I did and it took many years fir the abxiety to subside.
Yes, it's common sense not to denounce people with disease-like labels & then force them to take neurotoxic drugs or ECT. Instead, they must be enlisted to take up aesthetic talent training - like via the Emphatic Talent training provided by Peter Breggin and Howard Glasser or a Laughter Yoga approach. Once happiness & physiology are experienced together - sad people can soon develop a dedicated mental + emotional cathexis - which is what Mental Health is!
My late partner a war vet had serious adverse reactions to an anti depressant one of five meds. When a new doc took him off all but one at a minimum dose many symptoms which had been attributed to PTSD disappeared. But 20 years of adverse reactions had taken their toll; for instance embarrassment at becoming hyper when on the A.D.s.
This video has the date as 2015 - yet - here in the UK only recently a man has been forcibly admitted to a psych unit and forcibly injected against his will even though he is not psychotic and he is now held against his will - he does have a few odd mannerism of speech - but that is not psychosis nor a danger to himself or to others. He has however - some views on chem trails and other current topics which are not popular. He was waiting to be housed - has some opportunistic doc taken advantage here ? Time will tell. There is a law apparently in the UK that allows force and claims it is for a persons own good and will be done with dignity etc - this is not the experience of the individuals subjected to this. People are still not being treated safely or fairly and society is still damaging health and freedom. Also psychotherapy is recommended here - even though psychotherapy for the most part is misused and the "clinicians" write false, slanderous and accusatory things in patient records. There are a few techniques like CBT that can have some helpful outcomes for a few people - but - groups and many of the therapies based on Freud . Jung etc are very flawed and are dangerous as are Eastern Mysticism dressed up as therapies. There are too many flaws and too many abuses in the so called mental health system and they provide lucrative jobs for some and big profits for others - people were not designed to go through all this. But human nature is perverse, greedy, corrupted and will continue to be until the end of time. No politician, religious leader or group will fulfil utopian promises. People get jobs and want and need to support themselves and their own and the level of flaws is so widespread now, only Almighty God will resolve them. Listen to people, but believe none.
My psychiatrist drinks alcohol, I told him I do not like this! And because I complained to the committee, I am no longer treated, and i also received severe strong medication within 3 weeks without any diagnosis,why do they want to give medicine so fast !! they dont even know my story and my problems ?! also the first intake they told me i shoud go and talk to my familie about my problems !!
Honestly i can see why both of you messed up. For one just because of disagreeing with a person's life style does not justify drug's. Two if the person drinks alcohol that's not your business or anyone else.
@@shanestrickland5006 Scroeffie spoke out against the psychiatrist's alcohol use bc the psychiatrist must've been under the influence of alcohol in Scroeffie's presence. There's protocol 2 report this type of misconduct. Otherwise, I do agree that it's none of Scroeffie's biz RE: the psychiatrist's alcohol use. W/that said; it's my understanding that the psychiatrist was drunk @ the place of employment (the office) while dealing w/Scroeffie so I slightly disagree w/u that Scroeffie "messed up". If anything; it's clearly a whistleblower violation by the psychiatrist.
I am 66 years of age. Never had any 'disease'. I haven't had or seen a 'doctor' in 40 years! I haven't consumed a single pharma 'product' over the same period. In all that time I haven't had a single day of illness.
In the minds of well-paid + esteemed psychiatrists - they believe they are "helping people!" They are hubristic and delirious yet are enabled to make sad people into long-term cash cows - because, as Thomas Szasz said, 'we in society ask them to do so!'
The woman screaming and interrupting should be in mental institute and not in that conference. She's probably on the same drug that the doctor is talking about, a perfect example of the drug's danger.
What Gotzsche is speaking about was proven in the 1970's when all the hospital workers in Los Angeles county went on strike. The result was... in a population of 10 million, all the hospitals were shut down. After the strike was over the hospitals opened up again... The point is, in insurance actuarial statistics, one year later, it showed when the hospitals shut down, the death rate went down also, and when they opened back up again, the death rate rose back to its ""normal"" level.
My son went in to hospital currently prescribed 6 drugs ,2 they are fast track tapering him from. His struggles with these ended with police involved,due to hallucinations, mania and akathisia, drug induced psychosis. The more they dont work,the more new drugs. But I see that doctors are under pressure. The critical point in withdrawal titration seems to be at the lower end of dosing- from 15mg down. My relative is starting Clozapine .He is 22. It is one of the most dangerous. But his experience has been so awful he believes it will be worth it for his 'treatment resistant' diagnosis. Shame speaker was interrupted in this way.
Update: home now.. survived for now. I do think doctors are under pressure but I am not sure who by- police,parish...families..? A lite side note. If you are taking anti psychotics you can get Omega 3 and Vitamin D + Bs prescribed by pharmacy. I found an old paper on Naudicelle and MS + Alzheimers ( UK MP address to Parliament) recommending it be made available as it was supposed to be very good for brain lesion reduction with MS patients. We try Nordic Naturals Pro Omega 3 + Vitamin D as its got best efficacy rating and not much more expensive than other brands but Naudicelle is covered on some health plans + public health/ medical card ( UK/ Ireland).
Lenore Paletta Thank you for your kind advice. We /I am trying but no professional support here to do this formally. I notice w these meds that compulsive eating/smoking is a feature -but this seems to be neatly kicked back into patients basket of personal responsibility/choice terrain.
Be careful clozapine had a side effect on me, which it produced an infectious myocarditis. I spent a month in the hospital and now my heart beats are very low, im in waiting list for heart transplant
The host should have immediately taken care of the disruptor. He should have immediately gone over to her and spoken to her privately, allowing Peter to continue. It isn't up to the speaker to control people like that.
What I did not understand was that she seemed to be totally agreeing with him was she not? Yes , the law does need changing... but the corruption is too deep!
It is like the Champix (Canadian name) for drug to quit smoking)....class action lawsuit that was cancelled years after my son's death (not suicide).....where his mental health et al was severely damaged after completing the 12 weeks of Champix. Anyway....there was going to be a blackbox warning mandated on drug....for people who had been depressed before beginning the drug! So I got a letter from the lawyer who said the lawsuit was cancelled ! The FDA had 'ordered' Pfizer (of course no conflict of interest there !) to do another study on the matter of this depression.....Pfizer miraculously found very little correlation.....So FDA in their great wisdom CANCELLED THE BLACK BOX WARNING......which effectively cancelled the class action lawsuit !
If someone is distracted or depressed - then enlist him into taking up aesthetic training, so he can develop a dedicated mental + emotional cathexis. The 1st classes should be with enthusiastic drum music, where everyone starts clapping + stomping (PBS T.V., 2006). Soon, people are laughing - since happiness & physiology are being triggered together, which the subconscious mind takes literally. / After many such Laughter Yoga sessions, he could begin learning a musical instrument and then rehearse with others {The Cares Cafe in Shanghai, where Autism types also work and practice courtesy there.}. People could also sing in Glee Clubs or learn vocational skills - The point about Mental Health needs to be: stop acting like a childish delinquent, and instead develop a dedicated Cathexis. A cathexis is what mental health is - thus anyone can become a happy genius!
@@bobjary9382 Actually Bob - the scorn that I, Peter Gotzsche, Peter Breggin and Carolyn Leaf have received is nothing but pretense made dogmatic. We've seen the crocodile tears of psychiatrists, heard their positivist assertions and learned about their results - like Tardive Dyskinesia, which is jerky & uncontrolled movements caused by neurotoxic drugs. When cornered, psychiatrists resort to authoritative pronouncements - when spotlighted more truth about how their "treatments" are 2nd Degree Assault - they flip into Blazing Indignation! / I'd love to debate a menticide psychiatrist publicly!
Because there s interest in money, interest in drugging people, interest in numbing them down, interest to control certain population.Population that behaves different is always on look out from these people.In the past it was treated as illness any disobeyance.They even force any people to do this,to send them to hospital and drug them.It s considered as abuse, forcing them from the streets.Its crime.And noone from psyciatrist has paid for this.They are just emotionless and do whatever they would like.
Giving people disease-like labels, then drugs or being enabled to threaten such - gives Mental Health Professionals a place in the effort to create a top-down feudal System!
She needed to be led to the side of the room and quietly spoken to - by someone who believes in her potential. The actor Michael Landon would have been good here!
There's one sure fire way to destroy psychiatry. That is work out the exact mechanism of action and then it'll be easier to figure out the antidote to each of these toxins.
43:21 Obviously, this woman has been seriously harmed, as most have, including those who chose psychiatry as a profession, and then refused to hear their own patients (although their victimhood is truly a stretch considering the power imbalance, the authority abused, and the institutionalized callousness). She cannot see thru her pain and loss that this man dissects what is so repugnantly wrong FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL.
She should have been helped over to the side and talked to by someone who believes in her potential. Actor Michael Landon would have handled her that way. Then a question could have been submitted for her!
Life is often unpredictable. To say that psychiatric drugs can mitigate that fact of life easier than we can when universal health care does not cover the cost of prescriptions and while doctors are not infallible while being able to detect lies always too is so very foollish. Nothing can make us feel less healthy faster than having to cope with more than one person around trying to control us while they are not providing anything to empower the person for real.
We can try to reason these kind of people, but results will be always the same.They are controlers and big liars.No emotion people who feed on victims.Every kind of psyciatrist do these.You aren't even aware what kind of people they are and they are supported.Asking them for advice is nonsense.
@ 38:30 - Don't harm other species of animals. :( They just want to be left alone. Similarly, don't flush your Psychotropic Pharmaceutical pills and pregnancy-control pills down the toilet/sink. Take it back to your local Pharmacy. A hyperbolic taper clinic still doesn't exist. I'm desensitized to this extremely disturbing subject matter. But I understand the woman in the audience.
Jeanie B.; More often than not, the medication (drug) causes the condition (illness) which, in turn, contributes 2 suicides & homicides (murders). Medication's involvement in suicides & homicides r so severely downplayed/denied that it begged ur "?".
@@hannah990 Peter Breggin, James Davies, Robert Whitaker, Howard Glasser, Julia C. Christensen, Gary Greenberg, the CCHR, OISE Toronto and others are good at exposing menticide, also with Empathic Talent Training, dance therapy, biofeedback training, etc. The main thing: is to have people develop a dedicated mental and emotional cathexis!
This just talks about one side of the topic. There were numerous people who were also saved by antidepressants. It's good to be critical but it shows only one side of the coin.
Nonsense. Antidepressants save no one, it destroys lives and the science proves it. Anyone who claims antidepressants saved their lives are intoxicated and deluded.
60 Minutes did an interview with Dr. Irving Kirsch, Associate Director of the Placebo Studies Program at Harvard Medical School where he shared his decades of research on the placebo effect which reported antidepressants do not provide a clinically significant benefit over placebo. th-cam.com/video/Zihdr36WVi4/w-d-xo.html
No that is only true in that they got a placebo effect. The studies are clear that the benefits from antidepressant drugs have zero to do with the drug. These studies were falsified and not reliable. The central hypothesis of chemical imbalance has been entirely disproven, and turns out to never had any evidence to support it.
"i have a right to protest." Yes, but what are you protesting and where? You're at a talk of someone who agrees with you. Why protest your ally? A lecture is not a conversation. It is not a political rally.
well for a Professor of Clinical Research and Design he makes a basic gaffe. At about 30 min onwards he conflates practical with statistical significance, calling for the ignoring of p values when considering Fatalities. His analogy with someone falling out of an aircraft is unsound. We do not need to run a statistical test to determine that there is something odd about someone falling out of an aircraft . However one does with deaths in a clinical trial, as deaths may occur in any case. Only with a statically significant result can a causal relationship be deemed likely. That he should make such a basic gaffe suggests that he is not assessing the data fairly or accurately and his claims are suspect.
if yr not completly brainwashed, u should take some drugs, and you`ll know it makes u worse. if not the first, then the second or third. why ban or alterate all natural medicine? .
Pharma and its associates are very good at manipulating statistical data. As they distorte standard deviations, hide side effects, and put people on toxic drugs for years when they are only tested for weeks in patients. Psychiatric drugs are completely experimental and not based in sound scientific analysis, and promote an ideology of torturing fragile and defenseless people, who are silenced and ignored when they complain about the terrible side effects they experience.
The point he was making is that it depends on the circumstances of the harm.If there is a demonstrable causal link evidenced by an independently established mechanism of action the p value is secondary or irrelevant.
Pete Watts, I'm going to guess you didn't spend 35 years psychiatrically drugged, had your entire life destroyed because of it, and now forced to watch your own children also heavily drugged having their lives thoroughly destroyed. Have you ever had your mind mentally tortured, almost to death, during withdrawals? My best guess is NO, you'd rather find any fault you can with Peter Gotzsche and his findings. He's giving voice to us psychiatric drug survivors after our Psychiatrists and mental healthcare workers silenced us. To us, Peter Gotzsche is a H-E-R-O.
I can see what he's saying but on the other hand getting rid of psych hospitals and forced admissions has led to millions of homeless drug addicts all over the streets everywhere.
1. We actually have more coercive psychiatric beds than ever before if you count private hospitals. Rob Wipond wrote about it; look up "The Myth of Deinstitutionalization." 2. The homeless numbers mostly have to do with awful economic policy, and the mental breakdowns/drugs are resultant, less so causal. 3. Psychiatry actually disabled a lot of those people. I've known myself and someone else who went from being in STEM university programs to being almost or fully homeless because of psychiatry, and Wipond's reporting showed that the homeless are fleeing forced treatment. Homeless people get treated like shit in psych wards as they have even less power than the other inmates. 4. And most importantly, they are on the streets because they find that better than the horrible so called hospitals and rehab centers they have access to. Also 5. Housing first is cheaper, more humane, and ends up saving money in the long run due to reducing crime and despair.
Shayan Azizi; U must believe that mental health conditions r chemical imbalances. That's bullshit, Peter Gotzsche is NOT BULLSHITTING @ ALL. Whether he got paid 4 this speech is IRRELEVANT.
@@stevekaylor5606 U betcha, Steve. While we've had slight differences in our respective approaches, we both do agree that mental health conditions r ENVIRONMENTAL IMBALANCES (NOT CHEMICAL IMBALANCES)!!!!! Keep up the crusade, Steve; I have ur back on this FBS that needs 2 b exposed.
@@billybandyk0720 Along with the training and education of everyone - the environment can be improved via an Economic, Scientific and Cultural Paradigm Shift - bigger than the Florentine Renaissance! / The idea that sad people have a Chemical Imbalance - sounds like a 1-page paper written by a Middle School student. This construct was made up by Gregory Bateson, who was husband to Margaret Mead - yet is still parroted by Mental Health professionals, as part of their program to make more people into cash cows! / I'm looking for a video by Robert Whitaker. {I've seen several by Atty. Carmen Miller. With the CCHR FL, she talks about how the Baker Act in FL allows many people to be Red Flagged. I've watched Thomas Szasz debate with other psychiatrists from 1998!}
This guy is a total joke. No ability to critically appraise statistics, which is unfortunate for a former Cochrane researcher. He basically says that because a certain amount of people die by suicide on antidepressants this equates to those deaths being caused by the medication. Where does one even start with that. The last point sums it up, “very few people die from narcotics compared to psychiatric drugs.” Lets see Peter, in the US in 2021 there were 80 000 opiate overdoses accounting for 75% of all overdose related deaths. Not a rare occurrence. There are good criticisms to be made of psychiatry but they are better heard by others, not from this (straw)man.
I guess you must be a special kind of retard. Because his point was clearly about how these so-called antidepressants which all claim to decrease suicidality actually did none of that and even increase the risk of actual suicide due to other side effects.
I doubt he is denying the death from opioids. But remember, the opioids epidemic was brought to us from the medical establishment and the lies told about opioids being "not addictive." But his argument is that death from psychiatric drugs is higher. But obviously the deaths must be higher than from suicide. I have not read his book on psychiatry. Is it listed in his book where he says these different deaths come from?
Antipsychotics need to be destroyed and completely banned.
I'm so happy Peter Gotzsche has a firm stance against psychiatric torture.
Yes torture with AD and AP cause emotional blunting and incurable side effects, brain damage, erectil dysfunction. This shit is called help and therapy. Psychiatrists are monsters.
instaBlaster.
@@clausmehl8731 Psychiatrists have been enabled to brand people with disease-like labels, then neurotoxic drugs or ECT - while proclaiming how much they are "helping" people. Actually, these doctors are helping themselves - by creating long term cash cows!
@@clausmehl8731I hate all doctors who believe in them.
Right. Diagnosing natural grief as a mental health condition should be a crime.
But it's not sadly.
Giving sad people a disease-like label from DSM - and then drugs, etc. is really 2nd Degree Assault!
The majority of psychiatry intentionally cause conditions that cause or make people worse whom they have already diagnosed mentally ill. Anyone who refuses to take Anti-Psychotic drugs are denied all other mental health services and that includes losing or being denied housing, and they will be persecuted even if it is denied and does not appear that way.
Right off the bat Peter Goesche says he bases in science anything not his own. I have seen other vids of his and his own ideas do not include spirituality and he can be very cold, impersonal towards suffering. He has not attempted to include God in anything he does, and even anything that resembles humanitarian thought, such as discussing abuse of the mentally ill in his talks is all based on scientific fact gathering about it, and not any personal concern.
Yes, any normal mental emotional reactions to awful/scary situations..yet the psychology system's worst flaw seems to be gaslighting people for perceived overreactions. That is controlling/intrusive/unfounded, abusive and dangerous
I survived a hurricane back in 1995. Traumatic for sure but nothing some counseling couldn't have helped. Put onto these poisons and spent the next two decades gradually losing myself and my life. I am now 4 months post-taper. I am gradually emerging. This is a global holocaust that must not only end but the perpetrators brought to justice.
THX 1138 Hang on no matter what. The road can be long and winding but you can get through anything. You are strong.
@@TheVaporChronicles Thank you for this. Today is my 54th birthday. 3rd birthday in this compromised state. I am grateful to no longer be languishing in the 9th circle of hell that was my reality from June 2016- December 2018. Maybe by my next birthday I will be free. Thanks again for the encouragement.
You are so brave to have walked through the hell of this kind of drug withdrawal; and I'm happy to report, there's new life after psych med injury - as it sounds like you're finding. Congratulations! Many cannot get off their drugs, especially the elderly, because the withdrawals could end their life. I withdrew from a tricyclic antidepressant and a benzo one right after the other (then prednisone withdrawal), and it almost took me out. I'm and RN, so I've experience both treating patients with these drugs and being a patient myself ... I've never felt so strong and resolute about the HOAX that psychiatric mediation is.
@@ryanhikes14ers Thanks so much for your words here Ryan. I am so proud of you knowing personally what endurance is required to pull through something as unfathomable as this injury. Like you I had consecutive psych drug injuries which certainly compounds the healing process. But I am glad to report that today, at 14.5 months post benzodiazepine taper I am actually recognizing real recovery. As you know the injury itself is only half the story. The dismissal from the medical establishment is a whole other aspect of this. You're in a unique position being an RN in that MDs may be more apt to listen to warnings from a colleague as opposed to laypeople. But even with that I do my part every chance I get to plant the seeds of warning to all that will hear me.
I think many psychiatrists are well-meaning duped true believers. Others I think are evil. It's Big Pharma and government collusion
What a hero this man is. I am surprised he has not died or disappeared mysteriously yet. I will buy all of his books before they are taken off the market
Happily he was treated very lightly: they just kicked him out of the organization he himself co-founded!
Psychiatrists are criminals they should be in prison. The harm they have done to millions of people with fraud in the name of helping them is crimes against humanity.
They are not criminals. They follow what the "profession" maintains as the "standard of care." The psych drug industry controls those "standards."
@@OnlineMD You are correct but they know the standard of care of the psych industry is crooked dishonest and underhanded. Yet they still do it.
@@capresti3537 remember when using LEECHES to drain blood was the "standard" of care??? Those doctors were not crooked or evil in intention. Rather, they were brainwashed into that practice as a sensible thing to do...😉😃
@@OnlineMD After years of clinical experience with patients and no cure and only harm, psychiatrists continue to drug and harm their patients with pseudoscience not caring of the harm they do.
😮hi
"Turn a lot of temporary problems into chronic ones." Nicely phrased
Lifetime depression is not temporary problem
Antidepressants are chronifying depressions
Exactly, that is the business model of big Pharma, recurring revenues. Exactly what they hope to achieve with yearly flu vaccines, would be nice for big Pharma profits if those were government mandated too. Where getting there...
@@RHTWiese thank you for agreeing. Official sides like deutsche depressionshilfe try to push people to seek help by psychiatrists. They prefer to say depression is a chemical imbalance which have to
be treatet with psychopharmaka.
@@stephieg.2580 are you suffering from antidepressants use especially emotional blunting.
A man after my own heart. He speaks my language.
A rude and awful neurologist in MN put my mother with early onset dementia/Alzheimer’s on these antipsychotics and dementia drugs and she died within 4 years at 65. Thank you for this information.
So sorry to you.
sadly most convention allopathic “ pharma care in america is like that
@@joshuahandfinger9154 This is the Professional Ethics of textbook doctors- who are too hubristic to think about the real effects of what they're doing to people. Peter Gotzsche calls this Organized Denial!
It was a blessing. My dad had Alzheimers and went from 220 down to 115 before he starved himself to death. 😢 I’m sorry for your loss though.
And her cause of death was not declared as the drugs, but as something else. It is amazing how the mortality statistics officially state not a single person dies from adverse drug events.
peter goetzche, one of the few using data and evidence ✊
James Davies and Peter Breggin are good at opposing the DSM labeling system!
DSM ought to have a classification for generational illness passed down to each succeeding generation. It will never stop until it's recocnized.😮
That disturbed woman who was screaming was treated with the utmost respect, a stunning example of human decency. In contrast, in any psych hospital, the animalistic staff would have immediately escalated the matter, which would then be disingenuously used as an excuse to drug the person against their will, traumatizing them deeply. They would then be gaslit into believing that it was the only thing that could have been done. Outstanding behavior by everyone in the room. True role models.
Harry Stack Sullivan would have sat her down - and started to talk to her, about what was bothering here and then about possible changes. Like Wayne Dyer, Sullivan was of agapeic intention - and was not for Triage modeled custodial debasement!
Oh, come on, you both exaggerate. I do understand him. He was very focused on his presentation and she just burst into his speech. Of course it disturbs. Otherwise he could have let her say very shortly what she wanted and and reply - hey, I really need to focus on my presentation. Please forward you questions first after the presentation. It's impossible for me to answer them now - Instead he was just trying to overpower her with his voice and silence her as if she attacked him. She was already saying sorry and seemed to understand the situation. - He, annoyed, still utters: 'Could you be quiet?!' meaning shut up finally! He could definitely have handled it in a way more relaxed/human way. I found it annoying how he treated her - like a small child that has to shut up right away. - Otherwise she burst into his presentation without raising her hand and kept blathering. Just disturbing...
Not sure what you are talking about - just as he was discussing involuntary confinement he was requesting that the woman be escorted away from the space...
@@sonibraun4971 And you are also wrong, because she was in fact being annoying. He had every right to tell her to shut up. It was rude.
Exactly
I experienced tremendous stress in a toxic workplace. The doctor tried to put me on powerful psychiatric meds and told me to consider disability so I could heal. I thought to myself she is nuts! Walked out and never went back. She only saw $$$$. Could not have cared less about healing.Haven’t seen a doctor in years.
Bravo! God bless!
@@xb4439Yes!
What if your own mother tried to do that and also tried to get you on disability?
I was put on a cocktel of drugs for asking for help with my family's abuse.
When I asked for help with the numerous physical issues the drugs caused me, the doctors gaslighted me.
When I asked my psych for a brain scan after reading about the fact that APs are linked to cerebral atrophy, she refused.
When I got a scan despite her refusal and it showed cortico-subcortical brain atrophy, she ghosted me.
The neurologist and the other doctors gaslighted me about it, saying that "it wasn't that bad", that it was my fault for being ill and that I had to "eat healthy, exercise and study".
My gaslighty family took the doctor's side.
When I complained about the drugs and the gaslighting, the doctors put on my charts that I needed psychiatric intervention even after knowing about the psych drugs.
I have had doctors that have gaslighted me about the brain atrophy even after the scans showed up, saying that "the scans were wrong because I have a big skull" or that "that kind of test cannot show brain damage", and when shown that the test is actually one that can show brain damage, they'd move on with their next gaslighty tactic.
Invalidation -> minimization -> victim blaming.
I lost my 4 grandparents and my dog while I was unconscious from those drugs. I'm still recovering my consciousness after 8 years in the drug limbo.
I'm scared of becoming aware of this only for them to use my reaction as an excuse to harm me even more.
I lost my university degree and I became economically dependant on my family due to this.
My dog was diagnosed with cancer and I begged them to take me off those drugs so I could give him a proper goodbye and they coerced me into taking them for another whole year. He died that year. He died in my arms while I was completely gone. I had terrible thoughts with those drugs that I never had before and I lost my reality to the point that I didn't know what emotions were anymore.
I experience a level of inhumanity from my family and the doctors that I never even deemed possible.
I also was treated in Monash medical hospital, Clayton, Melbourne in the early 1990s !!! Im still deeply scared by the inhumane treatment i received . I was given a cocktail of drugs and shock treatments against my will or concent. Only for the fact my mother and family discovered I was being held by them against my will I dont think i would be here today!! I completely lost myself, the treatment rendered me a totally broken shell of a human being a dribbling psychotic wreck. Unfortunately my Mom has passed away as have the other amazing people fighting my corner against monash medical Centre.In recent times I have tried with the help of a physiatrist to get hold of my records from Monash hospital archives only to be told they have no record of me, which I find so deeply offensive and deeply traumatic considering the harm they caused myself and my family. I consider the treatment and harm done to me a crime against humanity. Thank you for posting this amazing talk.
It is definitely a crime ! 😢
Criminals are trying to kill us with man made viruses and unnecessary drugs WHO have blood on their hands
Thank you Dr Gotzsche Truth spoken with courage and eloquence.
There’s No money to be made from people being healthy
Think about it ....
Antipsychotics create disability, dysfunction and lifelong patients. Shockingly in UK people aren't being given the choice and are routinely forced these neurotoxic drugs in the community, they aren't afforded the same rights as a criminal has in court.
Our politice doesnt care.
As Pam Popper says: "frequent doctor visits are not related to longevity!" She is a guest on CCHR videos.
these are the biggest drug dealers out there I ws on citlpram for 3 months and it caused mayhem and akathisia please do not take these life destroying drugs when I get better I'm going to put my life in to education to people about these drugs thxs to TH-cam for this
God bless this Gentleman, hear, hear!
Salute to Peter for holding a firm stance against the religious secterism going on in psychiatry. Psychiatry is a ridiculously flawed field of "science"
Very contrived - the conjuring of crocodile tears can also be convincing!
Far better than authoritarian Christians.
I do not consult doctors or take prescription drugs of any kind. I do take supplements and herbal. I'm 76, in good health, normal weight and usually walk 20 to 25 miles/week. I'm also cooking every meal from scratch with fresh vegetables, fish or meat, herbs!
this guy may of just saved me life! top scores for peter!
@Frans Delt By providing the info of the harmful effects of psych meds.
Yes, but the problem is that many people and parents still trust the doctors
@@madelynhernandez7453 That's EXACTLY the point that Mr. Stutz & I were addressing on another feature RE: psych meds (u made a comment that I construed as a "pro-psych med" stance). If u might recall; I replied 2 u by saying "Excuse me? Did I miss something here?" Again; u & I r in complete agreement RE: the harmful effects of psych meds. I outta know; having been on 30+ different psych meds (starting w/Ritalin @ age 4 in 1971) ovr a 40+ yr period b4 becoming psych med-free on 1/1/2017. The cumulative negative side effects practically did me in yet the medical/mental health personnel were so dismissive 2wardsy my concerns & my family (especially my parents whom r an "only child" from their respective families whereas I have an older sister) believed the medical advice that was gvn RE: the "benefits" of psych meds outweighing the negative side effects. They couldn't care less how the psych meds negatively affected me.
God protect this man!
Thanks for a great presentation Peter
Peter Breggin flew to Denmark - to speak at a Conference with Gotzsche!
"That's because they don't work, so they up the dosage."
Psychiatry in California, from my experience, is all about making money and not giving two shits about the patient. An absolute waste of time.
Likewise here in Michigan.
There is no accountability in the Mental Health Industry {their term} - for helping the patient develop a mental and emotional cathexis - which is what mental health is. Yet, what psychiatrists are actually doing to patients is not a waste of time - since making people into cash cows is both Ethical and enriching!
@@stevekaylor5606 Completely agreed, Steve. So SPOT-ON U R!!!!!
@@billybandyk0720 Ya Billy! Everyone can develop a mental & emotional cathexis and then become a happy genius - while not becoming cash cows within a top-down feudal system!
@@billybandyk0720 Training and educating people would also be good employment opportunities. If former Michael Landon were in charge of Mental Health - that would be his System!
Diagnosing trauma symptoms from chronic child abuse as manic depression should be criminalized.
So true, this happens a lot!
BRILLIANT PRESENTATION
Comment from
someone who has been threatened by her Medical physician with the NEWEST PSYCHIATRIC DISORDER:
*"PATIENT NONCOMPLIANCE SYNDROME"*
Why...?
I ask questions.
I research.
I am responsible for my personal decisions.
@WriterMaven
invoulantry hold
Noncomplaince always results in more drugs.No matter how reasonable you are.
I was given non compliant syndrome too and I shall remain with this syndrome by choice.
@@vxvp5642
The worst anyone can threaten me with is this new label.
My medical history and the decisions I made speak for itself.
Every physician who ever said, find a new doctor if you won't do as I say has lived to regret it. One even said everything I ever said is 100% accurate as medical tests & exrays have shown.
He suggested I seek alternative treatments and holistic medical treatments!
I am NOT against western medicine per se.
I ➡️♾AM AGAINST naking deities out of practitioners out of conventional western medicine/♾⬅️!
There were 384 Disorders in DSM5. After the Penn State sex scandal of 2011, psychiatrists voted in Histrionic Personality Disorder for 385 - instead of child molestation. Is Patient Noncompliance Syndrome now #386?!
That woman that interupted is what a victim of the psychiatric industry looks like. That woman probably experienced years maybe decades of mistreatment against her will if you listen to what she says 42:45. Thats the kind of trauma the psychiatric industry creates. The medical industry shouldnt invalidate people and mistreat them with drugs . It creates that kind of outburst and pain. Hope she finds her peace.
Thanks Peter one of the few voices of "Reason" we have in this World when it comes to pointing out the facts about Psychiatric drug treatment. I also thank Robert Whitaker for all the good work he has done in this field as well. Sad that their was a women interrupting this presentation. I do understand her frustration. sadly i feel it will take many years before we get real action especially with regards forced psychiatric treatment. Governments like my own like to use Psychiatry as a form of control over the populous so its not going to be easy it will take time. Don't worry the truth will come out in the end it always dose! And human rights will also win out in the end i hope their is to much at stake here!
+cameron E Im not joking: Gotzsche deserves the Noble Prize for this. Big Pharma is involved in criminal-level FRAUD. All in the name of $$$.
Hi cameron E, I was the outspoken lady listening to Peter talk and I have had years on psychiatric drugs and since 2010 have been attempting to become drug free and still I am on an even higher dose of Haldol injection. I do get psychotic and have since the age of 17 and am now 67 this year 2019 but I haven't given up attempting to be drug free and I haven't given up on my son who feels he has been damaged by psychiatry and that his life is very limited. It is so true we have a way to go but like others who have fought for justice time will out and we will succeed just like you say in your comment too. The very best Anne
@@annewatmough9163 hun-high dose vitamin c helped me out of protracted withdrawal HELL-brain damage etc-please try it xxx also use coconut oil everyday.And caster oil-pour into a bath and let it soak in.Try the keto diet-lots of fats-and juice lettuce with a juicer-I know it’s sounds simple but this can be powerful x
You're legislating misbehavior, organising it, and calling it a medical disease. There's strict criteria on what constitutes a disease. Dealing w_ syndromes or disorders.
@@annewatmough9163 forced psychiatric drugging is one of the worst evil laws governments like to engage in they (government) think that it answers alot of problems but in the end it only causes alot more problems and solves nothing... forced treatment will have to go the way of the dinosaurs and become extinct of humanity is to move forward and human rights just have to come first and foremost its just that important and that simple... Keep fighting to be drug free its the only way to be Anne!
Totally brilliant!
THANK YOU THAT SOMEONE IS STANDING UP AGAINST THESE POISONS, AND THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY, COVER UPS, & REFUSAL TO EVEN HELP THOSE WHO ARE HARMED....(through denial that the drug has harmed them ! )
A friend of mine age 62 recently and unexpectedly committed suicide while on an SSRI.
I’m 61, 5 months free of SSRI’s, & I’m worried about the shorter days ahead!
Have you seen the Tucker Carlson Show of 7/25/22 - on SSRIs, etc.? Also, Allen Francis said, "Psych drugs cause mass shootings" - after the Sandy Hook massacre of 26 in 2011. Maybe Francis learned something after his installment of DSM-4, that James Davies covers in his DSM video!
Two people i know spontaneously tipped into florid psychosis after 6 - 8 months on ssris. Of course then they were given antipsychotics. Both were grieving loss of loved ones.
I had diagnosed with depression when i went through tine off my life divorce. Loosing home. Parent death... stupid gp wrote this on my files... i told her i grieve plus in my cultur it takes up to 2 years... so what the hell... shocking .. hate psychitry more and more
Love this man! ❤️✊✊✊
THIS IS THE THIRD OF THESE LECTURES I'VE LOST BECAUSE OF POOR SOUND! I REALLY LOVE THIS MAN!
Yes......Please find better sound system for presentations !
Thank you Peter. Thank you
Body always heals itself. Any drug is poisoning body.
'That's how neurotoxic drugs work, these wouldn't work without being nerve toxic!' - Peter Breggin.
my life destroyed by ativan. no restitution. God will avenge His child!
In Jesus' name. Amen! God bless!
I pray.
Nuremberg code.
Patient rights are ignored.
Courts force cruel and unusual punishment for grief or upset by abuse behavior labeling human emotions as being bad and no compassion just blame and shamed and poison
Forced.
Criminal behavior by deception and evil forces.
Have wondered this for years
What makes babies & toddlers & many of children in their preteens happy, giggly, jolly for no apparent reason most of the time
Prerequisites merely being not hungry, hurt & not sick
There's got to be some natural chemical balance that does this
Prozac gave me terrible anxiety. They changed to Cytalapram which was even worse and after reassurance that it didnt cause anxiety. I was told that if I didnt carry on for two years it would make things worse. I did and it took many years fir the abxiety to subside.
I really love him so much he very good DR.💚
I'm not a doctor and i know this. it's called common sense
Yes, it's common sense not to denounce people with disease-like labels & then force them to take neurotoxic drugs or ECT. Instead, they must be enlisted to take up aesthetic talent training - like via the Emphatic Talent training provided by Peter Breggin and Howard Glasser or a Laughter Yoga approach. Once happiness & physiology are experienced together - sad people can soon develop a dedicated mental + emotional cathexis - which is what Mental Health is!
I was raped by antipsychotic medication, they forced me to take it , now I am super miserable.
God help, protect and bless you!
My late partner a war vet had serious adverse reactions to an anti depressant one of five meds. When a new doc took him off all but one at a minimum dose many symptoms which had been attributed to PTSD disappeared. But 20 years of adverse reactions had taken their toll; for instance embarrassment at becoming hyper when on the A.D.s.
This video has the date as 2015 - yet - here in the UK only recently a man has been forcibly admitted to a psych unit and forcibly injected against his will even though he is not psychotic and he is now held against his will - he does have a few odd mannerism of speech - but that is not psychosis nor a danger to himself or to others. He has however - some views on chem trails and other current topics which are not popular. He was waiting to be housed - has some opportunistic doc taken advantage here ? Time will tell. There is a law apparently in the UK that allows force and claims it is for a persons own good and will be done with dignity etc - this is not the experience of the
individuals subjected to this.
People are still not being treated safely or fairly and society is still damaging health and freedom. Also psychotherapy is recommended here - even though psychotherapy for the most part is misused and the "clinicians" write false, slanderous and accusatory things in patient records. There are a few techniques like CBT that can have some helpful outcomes for a few people - but - groups and many of the therapies based on Freud . Jung etc are very flawed and are dangerous as are Eastern Mysticism dressed up as therapies.
There are too many flaws and too many abuses in the so called mental health system and they provide lucrative jobs for some and big profits for others - people were not designed to go through all this. But human nature is perverse, greedy, corrupted and will continue to be until the end of time. No politician, religious leader or group will fulfil utopian promises. People get jobs and want and need to support themselves and their own and the level
of flaws is so widespread now, only Almighty God will resolve them. Listen to people, but believe none.
My psychiatrist drinks alcohol, I told him I do not like this! And because I complained to the committee, I am no longer treated, and i also received severe strong medication within 3 weeks without any diagnosis,why do they want to give medicine so fast !! they dont even know my story and my problems ?! also the first intake they told me i shoud go and talk to my familie about my problems !!
Honestly i can see why both of you messed up.
For one just because of disagreeing with a person's life style does not justify drug's.
Two if the person drinks alcohol that's not your business or anyone else.
@@shanestrickland5006 Scroeffie spoke out against the psychiatrist's alcohol use bc the psychiatrist must've been under the influence of alcohol in Scroeffie's presence. There's protocol 2 report this type of misconduct. Otherwise, I do agree that it's none of Scroeffie's biz RE: the psychiatrist's alcohol use. W/that said; it's my understanding that the psychiatrist was drunk @ the place of employment (the office) while dealing w/Scroeffie so I slightly disagree w/u that Scroeffie "messed up". If anything; it's clearly a whistleblower violation by the psychiatrist.
Kanye West was just treated like this - by his personal trainer!
@@stevekaylor5606 Completely agreed on this 1, Steve. Regardless of West's celebrity status, he practically has the stance as u (in some aspects).
@@billybandyk0720 Yes, Billy! West is somewhat independent. He promotes the Common Good!
Interesting point on the placebo effect. Had no idea about that.
I am 66 years of age. Never had any 'disease'. I haven't had or seen a 'doctor' in 40 years! I haven't consumed a single pharma 'product' over the same period. In all that time I haven't had a single day of illness.
Why do they keep prescribing these drugs!?🤨💁🏼♀️
In the minds of well-paid + esteemed psychiatrists - they believe they are "helping people!" They are hubristic and delirious yet are enabled to make sad people into long-term cash cows - because, as Thomas Szasz said, 'we in society ask them to do so!'
When you want the truth, follow the $$$$$$$$$.
The woman screaming and interrupting should be in mental institute and not in that conference. She's probably on the same drug that the doctor is talking about, a perfect example of the drug's danger.
What Gotzsche is speaking about was proven in the 1970's when all the hospital workers in Los Angeles county went on strike. The result was... in a population of 10 million, all the hospitals were shut down. After the strike was over the hospitals opened up again... The point is, in insurance actuarial statistics, one year later, it showed when the hospitals shut down, the death rate went down also, and when they opened back up again, the death rate rose back to its ""normal"" level.
My son went in to hospital currently prescribed 6 drugs ,2 they are fast track tapering him from. His struggles with these ended with police involved,due to hallucinations, mania and akathisia, drug induced psychosis.
The more they dont work,the more new drugs. But I see that doctors are under pressure.
The critical point in withdrawal titration seems to be at the lower end of dosing- from 15mg down.
My relative is starting Clozapine .He is 22. It is one of the most dangerous. But his experience has been so awful he believes it will be worth it for his 'treatment resistant' diagnosis.
Shame speaker was interrupted in this way.
Update: home now.. survived for now. I do think doctors are under pressure but I am not sure who by- police,parish...families..? A lite side note. If you are taking anti psychotics you can get Omega 3 and Vitamin D + Bs prescribed by pharmacy. I found an old paper on Naudicelle and MS + Alzheimers ( UK MP address to Parliament) recommending it be made available as it was supposed to be very good for brain lesion reduction with MS patients. We try Nordic Naturals Pro Omega 3 + Vitamin D as its got best efficacy rating and not much more expensive than other brands but Naudicelle is covered on some health plans + public health/ medical card ( UK/ Ireland).
Lenore Paletta Thank you for your kind advice. We /I am trying but no professional support here to do this formally. I notice w these meds that compulsive eating/smoking is a feature -but this seems to be neatly kicked back into patients basket of personal responsibility/choice terrain.
polyannamoonbea happy to help in any way I can.
Be careful clozapine had a side effect on me, which it produced an infectious myocarditis. I spent a month in the hospital and now my heart beats are very low, im in waiting list for heart transplant
Did these drugs give him Tardive Dyskinesia yet? This is totally iatrogenic!
The host should have immediately taken care of the disruptor. He should have immediately gone over to her and spoken to her privately, allowing Peter to continue. It isn't up to the speaker to control people like that.
What I did not understand was that she seemed to be totally agreeing with him was she not? Yes , the law does need changing... but the corruption is too deep!
Just said - "quiet down, let me submit a written question for you."
It is like the Champix (Canadian name) for drug to quit smoking)....class action lawsuit that was cancelled years after my son's death (not suicide).....where his mental health et al was severely damaged after completing the 12 weeks of Champix. Anyway....there was going to be a blackbox warning mandated on drug....for people who had been depressed before beginning the drug! So I got a letter from the lawyer who said the lawsuit was cancelled ! The FDA had 'ordered' Pfizer (of course no conflict of interest there !) to do another study on the matter of this depression.....Pfizer miraculously found very little correlation.....So FDA in their great wisdom CANCELLED THE BLACK BOX WARNING......which effectively cancelled the class action lawsuit !
The lady freaking out @40:34 heckling , causes organizers to react !!!!!!!!
If someone is distracted or depressed - then enlist him into taking up aesthetic training, so he can develop a dedicated mental + emotional cathexis. The 1st classes should be with enthusiastic drum music, where everyone starts clapping + stomping (PBS T.V., 2006). Soon, people are laughing - since happiness & physiology are being triggered together, which the subconscious mind takes literally. / After many such Laughter Yoga sessions, he could begin learning a musical instrument and then rehearse with others {The Cares Cafe in Shanghai, where Autism types also work and practice courtesy there.}. People could also sing in Glee Clubs or learn vocational skills - The point about Mental Health needs to be: stop acting like a childish delinquent, and instead develop a dedicated Cathexis. A cathexis is what mental health is - thus anyone can become a happy genius!
I know those suggestions will receive scorn from many ....but I think they sound great , especially when compared to medicstion
@@bobjary9382 Actually Bob - the scorn that I, Peter Gotzsche, Peter Breggin and Carolyn Leaf have received is nothing but pretense made dogmatic. We've seen the crocodile tears of psychiatrists, heard their positivist assertions and learned about their results - like Tardive Dyskinesia, which is jerky & uncontrolled movements caused by neurotoxic drugs. When cornered, psychiatrists resort to authoritative pronouncements - when spotlighted more truth about how their "treatments" are 2nd Degree Assault - they flip into Blazing Indignation! / I'd love to debate a menticide psychiatrist publicly!
My question is how to find a good dr? It seems impossible mission.
Because there s interest in money, interest in drugging people, interest in numbing them down, interest to control certain population.Population that behaves different is always on look out from these people.In the past it was treated as illness any disobeyance.They even force any people to do this,to send them to hospital and drug them.It s considered as abuse, forcing them from the streets.Its crime.And noone from psyciatrist has paid for this.They are just emotionless and do whatever they would like.
Giving people disease-like labels, then drugs or being enabled to threaten such - gives Mental Health Professionals a place in the effort to create a top-down feudal System!
If one looks the series Painkiller of pharma Purdue then it explains a lot how the system works.
Could anyone make out what the screaming lady was going on about?
Some pro-psychiatry deluded and brainwashed moron.
Some victims of Psychiatric treatments are so immersed - they lash out at critics!
I think she was agreeing with him - she was shouting the law should be changed with regards to forced treatments and admissions
Thanks
Dear Professor Gotzsche thank you for this. Please how can Benzos and psychotherapy ally the secondary and psychotic symptoms of psychosis?
This system and its treatment methods failed too many so I wonder why it still continues?
The woman who interupts the speech is so rude. She needs to leave the room. What's wrong with her? She feels guilty for what she has been doing?
She needed to be led to the side of the room and quietly spoken to - by someone who believes in her potential. The actor Michael Landon would have been good here!
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There's one sure fire way to destroy psychiatry. That is work out the exact mechanism of action and then it'll be easier to figure out the antidote to each of these toxins.
Instead - have down-and-out people take up talent training, so they can stop being distracted or depressed!
A bad diet (too much sugar) causes depression, because it alters blood chemistry for the worse.
Also too much stress.causes depression.
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That woman is insane. She ruined his speech
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43:21 Obviously, this woman has been seriously harmed, as most have, including those who chose psychiatry as a profession, and then refused to hear their own patients (although their victimhood is truly a stretch considering the power imbalance, the authority abused, and the institutionalized callousness). She cannot see thru her pain and loss that this man dissects what is so repugnantly wrong FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL.
No it doesn't only takes drs and big pharma to be depressed
Difficult to hear this !
Why aren’t thay Macking that lady leave
She should have been helped over to the side and talked to by someone who believes in her potential. Actor Michael Landon would have handled her that way. Then a question could have been submitted for her!
Life is often unpredictable. To say that psychiatric drugs can mitigate that fact of life easier than we can when universal health care does not cover the cost of prescriptions and while doctors are not infallible while being able to detect lies always too is so very foollish. Nothing can make us feel less healthy faster than having to cope with more than one person around trying to control us while they are not providing anything to empower the person for real.
We can try to reason these kind of people, but results will be always the same.They are controlers and big liars.No emotion people who feed on victims.Every kind of psyciatrist do these.You aren't even aware what kind of people they are and they are supported.Asking them for advice is nonsense.
As Peter Breggin says in one of his videos - 'asking for help from a psychiatrist, is one of the worst mistakes you can make!'
@ 38:30 - Don't harm other species of animals. :( They just want to be left alone. Similarly, don't flush your Psychotropic Pharmaceutical pills and pregnancy-control pills down the toilet/sink. Take it back to your local Pharmacy.
A hyperbolic taper clinic still doesn't exist.
I'm desensitized to this extremely disturbing subject matter. But I understand the woman in the audience.
Its too easy to say a drug use/withdrawal caused suicide/homicide when we are considering mental health problems. Was it the illness or the drug?
Jeanie B.; More often than not, the medication (drug) causes the condition (illness) which, in turn, contributes 2 suicides & homicides (murders). Medication's involvement in suicides & homicides r so severely downplayed/denied that it begged ur "?".
The black box warnings say the drugs can cause suicidal thoughts (especially in the youth) and violence.
the screeching woman is likely on an anti depressant!
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+Christopher Cooper Im not joking: Gotzsche deserves the Noble Prize for this. Big Pharma is involved in criminal-level FRAUD. All in the name of $$$.
I am in total agreement with you Katherine Louise..
@@hannah990 Peter Breggin, James Davies, Robert Whitaker, Howard Glasser, Julia C. Christensen, Gary Greenberg, the CCHR, OISE Toronto and others are good at exposing menticide, also with Empathic Talent Training, dance therapy, biofeedback training, etc. The main thing: is to have people develop a dedicated mental and emotional cathexis!
Instead of telling us what psychiatrists shouldn’t do; how about finding out what they should. 🤔
This just talks about one side of the topic. There were numerous people who were also saved by antidepressants. It's good to be critical but it shows only one side of the coin.
Nonsense. Antidepressants save no one, it destroys lives and the science proves it. Anyone who claims antidepressants saved their lives are intoxicated and deluded.
60 Minutes did an interview with Dr. Irving Kirsch, Associate Director of the Placebo Studies Program at Harvard Medical School where he shared his decades of research on the placebo effect which reported antidepressants do not provide a clinically significant benefit over placebo. th-cam.com/video/Zihdr36WVi4/w-d-xo.html
No that is only true in that they got a placebo effect. The studies are clear that the benefits from antidepressant drugs have zero to do with the drug. These studies were falsified and not reliable. The central hypothesis of chemical imbalance has been entirely disproven, and turns out to never had any evidence to support it.
I'm sure you know what you tooking about ,but you are not clear at all.
"i have a right to protest."
Yes, but what are you protesting and where? You're at a talk of someone who agrees with you. Why protest your ally? A lecture is not a conversation. It is not a political rally.
well for a Professor of Clinical Research and Design he makes a basic gaffe. At about 30 min onwards he conflates practical with statistical significance, calling for the ignoring of p values when considering Fatalities. His analogy with someone falling out of an aircraft is unsound. We do not need to run a statistical test to determine that there is something odd about someone falling out of an aircraft . However one does with deaths in a clinical trial, as deaths may occur in any case. Only with a statically significant result can a causal relationship be deemed likely. That he should make such a basic gaffe suggests that he is not assessing the data fairly or accurately and his claims are suspect.
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if yr not completly brainwashed, u should take some drugs, and you`ll know it makes u worse. if not the first, then the second or third. why ban or alterate all natural medicine? .
Pharma and its associates are very good at manipulating statistical data. As they distorte standard deviations, hide side effects, and put people on toxic drugs for years when they are only tested for weeks in patients. Psychiatric drugs are completely experimental and not based in sound scientific analysis, and promote an ideology of torturing fragile and defenseless people, who are silenced and ignored when they complain about the terrible side effects they experience.
The point he was making is that it depends on the circumstances of the harm.If there is a demonstrable causal link evidenced by an independently established mechanism of action the p value is secondary or irrelevant.
Pete Watts, I'm going to guess you didn't spend 35 years psychiatrically drugged, had your entire life destroyed because of it, and now forced to watch your own children also heavily drugged having their lives thoroughly destroyed. Have you ever had your mind mentally tortured, almost to death, during withdrawals? My best guess is NO, you'd rather find any fault you can with Peter Gotzsche and his findings. He's giving voice to us psychiatric drug survivors after our Psychiatrists and mental healthcare workers silenced us. To us, Peter Gotzsche is a H-E-R-O.
I can see what he's saying but on the other hand getting rid of psych hospitals and forced admissions has led to millions of homeless drug addicts all over the streets everywhere.
1. We actually have more coercive psychiatric beds than ever before if you count private hospitals. Rob Wipond wrote about it; look up "The Myth of Deinstitutionalization." 2. The homeless numbers mostly have to do with awful economic policy, and the mental breakdowns/drugs are resultant, less so causal. 3. Psychiatry actually disabled a lot of those people. I've known myself and someone else who went from being in STEM university programs to being almost or fully homeless because of psychiatry, and Wipond's reporting showed that the homeless are fleeing forced treatment. Homeless people get treated like shit in psych wards as they have even less power than the other inmates. 4. And most importantly, they are on the streets because they find that better than the horrible so called hospitals and rehab centers they have access to. Also 5. Housing first is cheaper, more humane, and ends up saving money in the long run due to reducing crime and despair.
There are guidelines for diagnosis!!! Who would diagnose mourning a loss as depression??!!! Not a real psychiatrist- sorry!
So pretty much all of them aren't "real" psychiatrists? Or maybe they are and the entire field is a joke
he got paid for this talk, whatever he said its totaly bullshit
Shayan Azizi; U must believe that mental health conditions r chemical imbalances. That's bullshit, Peter Gotzsche is NOT BULLSHITTING @ ALL. Whether he got paid 4 this speech is IRRELEVANT.
There's nothing false about exposing the Organized Denial of psychiatrists - as they parlay sad people into cash cows!
@@stevekaylor5606 U betcha, Steve. While we've had slight differences in our respective approaches, we both do agree that mental health conditions r ENVIRONMENTAL IMBALANCES (NOT CHEMICAL IMBALANCES)!!!!! Keep up the crusade, Steve; I have ur back on this FBS that needs 2 b exposed.
@@billybandyk0720 Along with the training and education of everyone - the environment can be improved via an Economic, Scientific and Cultural Paradigm Shift - bigger than the Florentine Renaissance! / The idea that sad people have a Chemical Imbalance - sounds like a 1-page paper written by a Middle School student. This construct was made up by Gregory Bateson, who was husband to Margaret Mead - yet is still parroted by Mental Health professionals, as part of their program to make more people into cash cows! / I'm looking for a video by Robert Whitaker. {I've seen several by Atty. Carmen Miller. With the CCHR FL, she talks about how the Baker Act in FL allows many people to be Red Flagged. I've watched Thomas Szasz debate with other psychiatrists from 1998!}
@@stevekaylor5606 RE: the 1-page paper reference; probably written on TOILET paper by an asswiper. COMPLETELY AGREED!!!!!
This guy is a total joke. No ability to critically appraise statistics, which is unfortunate for a former Cochrane researcher. He basically says that because a certain amount of people die by suicide on antidepressants this equates to those deaths being caused by the medication. Where does one even start with that. The last point sums it up, “very few people die from narcotics compared to psychiatric drugs.” Lets see Peter, in the US in 2021 there were 80 000 opiate overdoses accounting for 75% of all overdose related deaths. Not a rare occurrence. There are good criticisms to be made of psychiatry but they are better heard by others, not from this (straw)man.
I guess you must be a special kind of retard. Because his point was clearly about how these so-called antidepressants which all claim to decrease suicidality actually did none of that and even increase the risk of actual suicide due to other side effects.
I doubt he is denying the death from opioids. But remember, the opioids epidemic was brought to us from the medical establishment and the lies told about opioids being "not addictive." But his argument is that death from psychiatric drugs is higher. But obviously the deaths must be higher than from suicide. I have not read his book on psychiatry. Is it listed in his book where he says these different deaths come from?