I have three of those…gen 3 Milwaukee Skil and dewalt…they are all great tools but I usually grab the Milwaukee but never regret grabbing the Skil and since it’s less than half the price Skil is by far the best bang for your money in almost any tool line
Skil has been upping its game lately. Last night, Lowes had Skil brushless 10 tools set for sale at $149. I grabbed two sets as a gift for my relatives. You can't beat the price and performance of Skil. It's not professional, but for a homeowner, it's plenty. I would've bought a set if I hadn't invested 90% in Milwaukee.
I own the drill, impact, circ saw and multi-cutter already or else I would probably jump on the that kit pretty quickly. They have some decent stuff for sure, but the saw isn't something that I would recommend to anyone. I need to do a review of that.
@@TinkerWithTools The saw is weak because of the battery. That's my theory. The same goes for the new generation 2 Milwaukee circular saw. The 2.5 HO is definitely half the power of the 5.0 HO when it comes to cutting. If Skil comes out with HO batteries later, it will improve their tool power. But given how much Skil has been improving lately, I definitely invest in them as a home diyer if I have to start over. My Milwaukee investment is eating up my wife's allowance budget.
You got a great buy. I purchased the same set a day later for 199.00. I have yet to open it and was thinking of returning the kit. I do not really care for the fan, hacksaw, inflator and the lights. Let me know if you have used the items that I mentioned and tell me if it is worth keeping them. Thank you..
@@MB-ir8xf Well, I bought it as a gift for my relatives, so I didn't get a chance to use it. I bet the saw is good with a bigger battery, like 4Ah or more. 2Ah and less are not meant for anything with a power draw tool like a saw. I have a similar Ryobi fan, and I use it every day to cool down my kids' foods and as a personal fan by my desk. The light is subjective since I own about 30 different types of light (I know I need help), so I don't imagine myself using the Skil light and using that battery for something else.
Nice about Skil, like some Ryobi impact drivers they have bright led lights on head. Nice for seeing what you are screwing in the dark. No puns intended . 😊
I have almost all Milwaukee, and some Bosch and Skil. I’ve been very impressed with Skil’s 12v and 18v tools’ aesthetics/ergonomics/performance, especially for how inexpensive they are. Thanks for making this comparison video. 👍
I think skil has a real gem on their hands with the 12v line, almost to the point I'd argue as a brand they should focus on it more so than the 20v line. The new 12v battery has a fast charge usbc port on it, like honestly its just the perfect homeowners line. 5 inch circ saw is plenty for cutting sheet goods, drill and impact are fine for around the house chores. Things like fans, lights and radios do not need more voltage. Any battery automotive tool would work double duty corded or cordless without a voltage converter as you would have battery power and car power being the same voltage. Tire inflator, 120v inverter (120w, 10a is perfectly feasible for these batteries), small wet/dry vac and even a battery powered jack. An automotive style 12v charger would also be really good for the brand as there's no inverter needed, just take the 13-14 nominal volts of a car's electrical system with some protective circuitry and batteries would charge 1 to 1, the charger would be like 10 dollars new. Even things like heated apparel, compact OPE like sheers, hedge trimmers, sprayers and compact blowers would be huge. If skil wants to go after ryobi, they need to hit ryobi where it hurts, the homeowner segment where ryobi spams random things and sees what sticks. 12v tools will always be cheaper than 18/20v and ryobi abandoning their mid voltage tools will bite them if skil fills the gap.
Chervon (the Skil/Kobalt/Flex parent company) has some really good tools and at varying price points. But their in person exposure is really lacking. I want to see them succeed if nothing more than to push other brands while still offering good value. I agree with you about the Skil 12v tools. There hasn't been a whole lot of incentive for me to get into their 20v lineup but I currently own 4 or 5 of their 12v tools.
@TinkerWithTools yeah skil's biggest issue is sharing a shelf with kobalt and craftsman, two way more well known brands that have way more tools on their platform. The 12v being unique as the only diy 12v brand gives them a leg up over ryobi and craftsman
I have every single one of those 12 Volt tools and have used them all extensively. I have pretty much come to the same conclusions as you regarding each tool. Milwaukee has established itself as the king of the 12 volt field, with Skil offering great value, but I also really like the DeWalt Extreme impact and drill combo as well. I often use it with the 3 AH battery and to me it's a great tool that's part of a decent lineup that isn't a bad choice for homeowners or non demanding professionals alike. Does it beat out the Milwaukee which is the king of 12 volt tools? Nope, but not everyone needs the top of the line tools and many will find the DeWalt ergonomics better than the Milwaukee so they'll enjoy using it more.
I use a bosh multi head driver (non impact) and the 6ah battery really wakes it up for cabnet and pannel install with trim screws. I do use the skill auto hammer and agree the 4ah makes a world of difference. If I got a skill 12v impact at ridiculous price I may try it. The m12 surge and 3rd gen take the cake for most used impact I see and use. They really do 90% of what many of us need. The only time I use my triple hammer or dcf850 is big decks or tons of headlocks. I think people can beat the middleman here and buy the m12 3rd gen at the 99 dollar annual sales and get the best of both worlds. I saw someone comment talk to me after 5 years well my surge is pretty much 6 years old work like a champ has had a boot on it asap. They do last even under heavy use spend up on what you want and the platform that will help you in the long run.
Thanks for a great video once again. For a lot of jobs too much speed and strength can actually be a problem, and I have found that the DeWalt DCS850 is too strong even in PrecisionDrive mode. Therefore I have found my self reaching for an older less powerfull compact option like one of the first generations Bosch Impact drivers. Instead of only testing the speed, it would be nice to see examples of more delicate precision work on small screws, and by that avoiding a snapped screw head.
I agree. If overdriving was an Olympic sport, I’d be in the medal round. When I watch these videos I’m more interested in what a particular tool can and can’t do and not really how fast it can do it.
I actually found the 12v combo drill/impact driver with battery and charger at a local Lowe’s for $54.97. Couldn’t pass it up! Still listed at $99 at all the other Lowe’s.
@@richparkinson9647 - The one you got is on clearance (Just bought it myself as a matter of fact). It's the discontinued version with the traditional slide charger. The full price one is the replacement with a USB charger (like your phone has). Two different items.
Un atornillador inalámbrico para todo 👍 y un atornillador de impacto para todo lo demás A cordless screwdriver for everything and an impact driver for everything else 💪
Thanks for the video. That Skil looks compelling for sure. Is the model number: ID6744A-10 ? I'm looking for a sub compact (less than 5" head) driver that is very ergonomic. It doesn't have to be powerful. I'm looking at this Skil, as well as the Dewalt DCF 850.
@@TinkerWithTools Yes, the kit. Just wanted to make sure it was the correct model of impact driver, since Skil has several similar ones listed on their website. Thanks so much!
I love my skil 12v stuff, I use it all the time professionally in HVAC and Low Voltage. I tried the m12 stuff, tis nice but I cant get use to the handle and I see m12 stuff grow legs all the time.
I am not expecting it to be more compact than their current offerings in the impact space but I will be ordering it when available. I have been waiting for a company with a newer Hydraulic impact driver and force Milwaukee to do a Gen 2 model of their surge.
Mind sharing some of videos where it won? Given that it's down a decent amount of RPMs the Milwaukee I would be interested in seeing how they tested it to produce a win
There’s a new Bosch 18v gdr220c which I got off eBay which is pretty nice. Be cool to see you compare it as well but I’m not sure when it’ll be available in the states
I have the drill driver, drill, and saw. After 1 year, all 5 of my batteries are no good, and not even a jump start helped. So, now, I have useless tools, no batteries. Just switched to M12.
I have the older Skil and older Dewalt 12 volt both work good for when you want a light weight impact. I have and old 18 volt Dewalt and the new Atomic 20 volt 850 witch is my new goto impact driver. Also have the Bosch freak that is ok.
If those Skil tools had been available 6 years ago when I replaced my Porter Cable cordless tools, I most definitely would have picked them. I'm not at all unhappy with the Milwaukee tools, but they are really overkill for the amount of use that I give them.
I agree they are both great tools. This video was just more sticking to traditional impact drivers. I might have to do a video just for the traditional impact/drill alternatives.
Amazon has them for right at 50 right now but then they do go on sale quite often. If you compare that to the most premium brands even at full price it’s a deal.
I get what you are saying and largely in the replies to this you have answered the issue with that sort of testing. I can tell you that the M12 Gen 2 (older model) here is roughly 5-6 years old and still works well (except for speed 1 seems a bit underpowered in testing for some reason). The additional problem for someone that is always testing/reviewing new and different tools is rarely will a tool get 5 years of use even in a 5 year time period. If I ever come up with a cost/time effective way to test tools in that way, I will be sure to include it.
For what you should be using a 12v platform for imo longevity is not as big of a deal. I promise you I can kill any 12v after a few hours of running Sammie’s into I beam’s. To me these tests show which ones can I get away with running one or two bigger fasteners and save a trip to the truck to get my 20v stuff.
Fair question.. Albeit by the formulation of your comment you were unlikely to ever consider changing what seems like a pre-established bias/prejudice anyways.
If its something your using rarely, buy cheap. If its something you use occasionally, buy mid tier. If youre using it to make money, buy quality. I personally so this with Ryobi, Hercules, and Milwaukee
I don't think it's what you are going to use the tool for the majority of the time. The use of larger fasteners in testing is to help illustrate power and performance differences in testing.
Yes more expensive means longer life, but not always. Ive had one Ryobi and Dewalt oscillating tools fall apart. And many Dewalt failures. I think newer tools by high end brands are being made cheaper today and less reliable.
I think you can get quality tools at all price points (and also junk tools). What I have also found is that you typically get more advanced tools at higher price points. Whether that is with better safety tech or with more cutting edge technology. Lower price points can produce power but making to a price point usually sacrificing those.
@@TinkerWithTools I totally agree. It would be a waste of time and money to show the obvious fact that HT lacks the edge of beating out brands like these. Skil 12v is the true under dog but I worry about their future. I hope Chervon will keep this line alive but only time will tell. Ty for this video
Eventhough Bosch is the lowest on all the tested performanced , But if i did't hearded wrong , somehow it was the quited impact compared to competitors , quiter than Dewalt Skil and Milwaukee the loudest
This is true. Milwaukee also has their Surge impact drivers (which is what I own) which are a bit lower-powered but a lot quieter as well. The Bosch tools are really nicely made, they just need an injection of power to remain competitive.
@@dperreno agreed, that Bosch needs updating. It's been in the market for about 7 years and it's no longer competitive with other 12V brands unless you only work with 3" and shorter screws
I think being quieter in part comes from hitting 50% less fast and hard. There is a place for a tool like the Bosch and plenty of people do like it's solid build and reliability, but the combination of lacking performance and also some odd ergonomics for me is the deal killer.
@@dperreno That true , Bosch 12V lineup maybe has been forgotten because the lacking performanced when compared to other competitions , it still nice to me but in some case it can't done the job as fast as others , Surge or Oil-pulsed impact driver is still a lot quieter than Normal impact driver , i have ones but come from Makita LXT , love it
@@engineer_alv for somehow , i don't think this Bosch Brushless 12V impact driver is an update version from Brushed one , just because the Lacking performanced , brushless motor is still an update , but the power make me disapointed
Spend top dollar like Festool or Hilti…no you don’t need to, but if you drop right down to budget tools you get what you paid for. For power tools I recommend sticking to tried and true good quality tools which you’ll enjoy using instead of cursing a poor tool’s inadequacies. DeWalt, Milwaukee, Makita will see you right for every tool with the power to make light work of every use. You can buy others, but how good they are usually varies from tool to tool. Personally I believe in buy once cry once….DeWalt is near double the price of Ryobi, but you’ll enjoy using the tool and have confidence in it. Avoid at all costs the cheapest near toy grade tools. They will be under powered, often inaccurate where it matters and probably not last long. Best advice…research YT tool user channels before spending out…it might save you buying a lemon!
Ok I've read this twice and here's my theory. You are a AI bot that's been prompted to be a non-native English speaker using a another AI bot to check for grammar but not coherence.
The whole pro vs prosumer is no longer a talking point. Pros are ysing lower brands because they get the job done at half the price. Amatuers are using the so called pro tools do to wanting the name brand.
I have M12 for my HVAC work and love it. The Skil 12v stuff is great. I have the drill, the right angle impact driver and the jigsaw.
Me I love my SKIL POWER CORE 20 ESPECIALLY the HALO LIGHT
I have three of those…gen 3 Milwaukee Skil and dewalt…they are all great tools but I usually grab the Milwaukee but never regret grabbing the Skil and since it’s less than half the price Skil is by far the best bang for your money in almost any tool line
I agree with. They are bringing it on the bang for buck.
That skil looks great would buy it and the price is great
Skil has been upping its game lately. Last night, Lowes had Skil brushless 10 tools set for sale at $149. I grabbed two sets as a gift for my relatives. You can't beat the price and performance of Skil. It's not professional, but for a homeowner, it's plenty. I would've bought a set if I hadn't invested 90% in Milwaukee.
I own the drill, impact, circ saw and multi-cutter already or else I would probably jump on the that kit pretty quickly. They have some decent stuff for sure, but the saw isn't something that I would recommend to anyone. I need to do a review of that.
@@TinkerWithTools The saw is weak because of the battery. That's my theory. The same goes for the new generation 2 Milwaukee circular saw. The 2.5 HO is definitely half the power of the 5.0 HO when it comes to cutting. If Skil comes out with HO batteries later, it will improve their tool power.
But given how much Skil has been improving lately, I definitely invest in them as a home diyer if I have to start over. My Milwaukee investment is eating up my wife's allowance budget.
Yeah. It’s the only tool I have tried from them (aside from the 1st gen drill) that I haven’t been as impressed with.
You got a great buy. I purchased the same set a day later for 199.00. I have yet to open it and was thinking of returning the kit. I do not really care for the fan, hacksaw, inflator and the lights. Let me know if you have used the items that I mentioned and tell me if it is worth keeping them. Thank you..
@@MB-ir8xf Well, I bought it as a gift for my relatives, so I didn't get a chance to use it. I bet the saw is good with a bigger battery, like 4Ah or more. 2Ah and less are not meant for anything with a power draw tool like a saw.
I have a similar Ryobi fan, and I use it every day to cool down my kids' foods and as a personal fan by my desk. The light is subjective since I own about 30 different types of light (I know I need help), so I don't imagine myself using the Skil light and using that battery for something else.
Skil is a great drill for the price and for everyday use
Always love your reviews… real world stuff. Thanks!❤
Thanks. I appreciate you saying it!
Nice about Skil, like some Ryobi impact drivers they have bright led lights on head. Nice for seeing what you are screwing in the dark. No puns intended . 😊
Wow, that bosch had me laughing more than a couple times in this contest
I believe it will outlive all of them
I have almost all Milwaukee, and some Bosch and Skil. I’ve been very impressed with Skil’s 12v and 18v tools’ aesthetics/ergonomics/performance, especially for how inexpensive they are. Thanks for making this comparison video. 👍
Agreed!
A very ‘SKILful’ and well done comparison and review, Tinker !!! 😆👍🤝🇺🇸😊
Thanks George!
I think skil has a real gem on their hands with the 12v line, almost to the point I'd argue as a brand they should focus on it more so than the 20v line. The new 12v battery has a fast charge usbc port on it, like honestly its just the perfect homeowners line. 5 inch circ saw is plenty for cutting sheet goods, drill and impact are fine for around the house chores. Things like fans, lights and radios do not need more voltage. Any battery automotive tool would work double duty corded or cordless without a voltage converter as you would have battery power and car power being the same voltage. Tire inflator, 120v inverter (120w, 10a is perfectly feasible for these batteries), small wet/dry vac and even a battery powered jack. An automotive style 12v charger would also be really good for the brand as there's no inverter needed, just take the 13-14 nominal volts of a car's electrical system with some protective circuitry and batteries would charge 1 to 1, the charger would be like 10 dollars new. Even things like heated apparel, compact OPE like sheers, hedge trimmers, sprayers and compact blowers would be huge.
If skil wants to go after ryobi, they need to hit ryobi where it hurts, the homeowner segment where ryobi spams random things and sees what sticks. 12v tools will always be cheaper than 18/20v and ryobi abandoning their mid voltage tools will bite them if skil fills the gap.
Chervon (the Skil/Kobalt/Flex parent company) has some really good tools and at varying price points. But their in person exposure is really lacking. I want to see them succeed if nothing more than to push other brands while still offering good value. I agree with you about the Skil 12v tools. There hasn't been a whole lot of incentive for me to get into their 20v lineup but I currently own 4 or 5 of their 12v tools.
That little circ saw rips!
@TinkerWithTools yeah skil's biggest issue is sharing a shelf with kobalt and craftsman, two way more well known brands that have way more tools on their platform. The 12v being unique as the only diy 12v brand gives them a leg up over ryobi and craftsman
@@james2042 i think its more the bad wrap they gotta come out of lol
@codustv1465 but I've never seen a bad review of a skil tool. They're always a "nothing fancy but it works and it's cheap"
I have every single one of those 12 Volt tools and have used them all extensively.
I have pretty much come to the same conclusions as you regarding each tool.
Milwaukee has established itself as the king of the 12 volt field, with Skil offering great value, but I also really like the DeWalt Extreme impact and drill combo as well. I often use it with the 3 AH battery and to me it's a great tool that's part of a decent lineup that isn't a bad choice for homeowners or non demanding professionals alike.
Does it beat out the Milwaukee which is the king of 12 volt tools? Nope, but not everyone needs the top of the line tools and many will find the DeWalt ergonomics better than the Milwaukee so they'll enjoy using it more.
Good way to look at it.
I use a bosh multi head driver (non impact) and the 6ah battery really wakes it up for cabnet and pannel install with trim screws. I do use the skill auto hammer and agree the 4ah makes a world of difference. If I got a skill 12v impact at ridiculous price I may try it. The m12 surge and 3rd gen take the cake for most used impact I see and use. They really do 90% of what many of us need. The only time I use my triple hammer or dcf850 is big decks or tons of headlocks. I think people can beat the middleman here and buy the m12 3rd gen at the 99 dollar annual sales and get the best of both worlds. I saw someone comment talk to me after 5 years well my surge is pretty much 6 years old work like a champ has had a boot on it asap. They do last even under heavy use spend up on what you want and the platform that will help you in the long run.
I appreciate you sharing. Especially about the longevity bit.
Thanks for a great video once again. For a lot of jobs too much speed and strength can actually be a problem, and I have found that the DeWalt DCS850 is too strong even in PrecisionDrive mode. Therefore I have found my self reaching for an older less powerfull compact option like one of the first generations Bosch Impact drivers. Instead of only testing the speed, it would be nice to see examples of more delicate precision work on small screws, and by that avoiding a snapped screw head.
The 12v impacts are nice for that reason. For me it’s the weight decrease and overall compactness of some of these models over rhe 18v counterparts.
I agree. If overdriving was an Olympic sport, I’d be in the medal round. When I watch these videos I’m more interested in what a particular tool can and can’t do and not really how fast it can do it.
The skil is on sale right now at Lowe’s for $30. I don’t even need one, but I’m seriously considering it.
Lowe’s is a great place to pick up some cheap tools at times. If I didn’t own it already I wouldn’t be able to pass it up for that.
Dang, I would’ve bought it too if I hadn’t missed the deal.
Not that I need another impact (currently have 4, but why not pick up another?!):
I actually found the 12v combo drill/impact driver with battery and charger at a local Lowe’s for $54.97. Couldn’t pass it up! Still listed at $99 at all the other Lowe’s.
@@richparkinson9647 - The one you got is on clearance (Just bought it myself as a matter of fact). It's the discontinued version with the traditional slide charger. The full price one is the replacement with a USB charger (like your phone has). Two different items.
Un atornillador inalámbrico para todo 👍 y un atornillador de impacto para todo lo demás
A cordless screwdriver for everything and an impact driver for everything else 💪
Thanks for the video. That Skil looks compelling for sure. Is the model number: ID6744A-10 ? I'm looking for a sub compact (less than 5" head) driver that is very ergonomic. It doesn't have to be powerful. I'm looking at this Skil, as well as the Dewalt DCF 850.
The listing I can see for the product is showing ID6744A-00 for the tool only. I am guessing the number you have is the Kit itself?
@@TinkerWithTools Yes, the kit. Just wanted to make sure it was the correct model of impact driver, since Skil has several similar ones listed on their website.
Thanks so much!
The Dewalt and Milwaukee 12 v are my go to for weight size.
As as a Milwaukee guy im really liking the new skil stuff i mean can't go wrong for the price and i love the Halo light
Not to mention the USB-C charging off the battery
@justinoff1 that too
I love my skil 12v stuff, I use it all the time professionally in HVAC and Low Voltage. I tried the m12 stuff, tis nice but I cant get use to the handle and I see m12 stuff grow legs all the time.
Thanks for sharing
"The best tool you can buy that doesn't get stolen" - Skil? 😆
@@GarenP well it's a lot cheaper to replace than a Milwaukee
You should get the dcf870 hydraulic for review. Looks super compact I would consider changing from my m12. Ohio power tool
I am not expecting it to be more compact than their current offerings in the impact space but I will be ordering it when available. I have been waiting for a company with a newer Hydraulic impact driver and force Milwaukee to do a Gen 2 model of their surge.
I use a 1/4 impact everyday for work, had a DCF850 with power stack 1.7 that I used for years and I own a Fuel M12 that never got used
Thanks for the informative testing! 👍
You’re welcome!
The skil has won every other match up in torque and speed just wondering how it didn’t happen in this series.
Mind sharing some of videos where it won? Given that it's down a decent amount of RPMs the Milwaukee I would be interested in seeing how they tested it to produce a win
started to sound like kickstart my heart
There’s a new Bosch 18v gdr220c which I got off eBay which is pretty nice. Be cool to see you compare it as well but I’m not sure when it’ll be available in the states
If they ever release it I'm sure I will pick it up. I really do like the Bosch drills but their impacts have always been underwhelming.
I have the drill driver, drill, and saw. After 1 year, all 5 of my batteries are no good, and not even a jump start helped. So, now, I have useless tools, no batteries. Just switched to M12.
I'm sorry to hear they went bad. Did you attempt to warranty the batteries?
@TinkerWithTools I just shelfed the tools. They lasted me 1 year
Well, here is hoping you have better luck with M12.
how do you skip the budget hyper tough 12 v line. Interesting review but still 2 narrow field when you do not cover the lower and high ends
I have the HyperTough drill - but not yet the impact driver. If I pick it up in the future, you will see it for sure.
I have the older Skil and older Dewalt 12 volt both work good for when you want a light weight impact. I have and old 18 volt Dewalt and the new Atomic 20 volt 850 witch is my new goto impact driver. Also have the Bosch freak that is ok.
That 850 is gold never touch my hammer drill 778 unless I have to go through concrete or medal I want the 601 for the lightness
usb port on the skill
DEWALT really has something with their compact Powerstack battery because it takes something like the 850 and makes it a pretty compact tool.
If those Skil tools had been available 6 years ago when I replaced my Porter Cable cordless tools, I most definitely would have picked them. I'm not at all unhappy with the Milwaukee tools, but they are really overkill for the amount of use that I give them.
I can understand that.
DCF601 12v Screwdriver or M12 Surge for me. Anything more than that, and you need a real tool anyway.
I agree they are both great tools. This video was just more sticking to traditional impact drivers. I might have to do a video just for the traditional impact/drill alternatives.
Not a lot of those 4.0ah batteries out there for less than $50 tho. Only lowes, and they're sold out
Amazon has them for right at 50 right now but then they do go on sale quite often. If you compare that to the most premium brands even at full price it’s a deal.
Please let us know how the tools handle after 5 years of use. These kind of tests doesn't say a thing to me.
@EDVERSiTY indeed. Maybe they could review the older tools they have used for years. That way we get a good impression which brand is reliable.
I get what you are saying and largely in the replies to this you have answered the issue with that sort of testing. I can tell you that the M12 Gen 2 (older model) here is roughly 5-6 years old and still works well (except for speed 1 seems a bit underpowered in testing for some reason). The additional problem for someone that is always testing/reviewing new and different tools is rarely will a tool get 5 years of use even in a 5 year time period. If I ever come up with a cost/time effective way to test tools in that way, I will be sure to include it.
For what you should be using a 12v platform for imo longevity is not as big of a deal. I promise you I can kill any 12v after a few hours of running Sammie’s into I beam’s. To me these tests show which ones can I get away with running one or two bigger fasteners and save a trip to the truck to get my 20v stuff.
@jeroen2082 the problem with brands is they all make some duds sometimes
Fair question.. Albeit by the formulation of your comment you were unlikely to ever consider changing what seems like a pre-established bias/prejudice anyways.
If its something your using rarely, buy cheap. If its something you use occasionally, buy mid tier. If youre using it to make money, buy quality.
I personally so this with Ryobi, Hercules, and Milwaukee
I like that philosophy!
Serious question....is anyone really driving anything more than a #6, #8 or #10 screw within the range up to 3" with 12v tool?
I don't think it's what you are going to use the tool for the majority of the time. The use of larger fasteners in testing is to help illustrate power and performance differences in testing.
While Bosch is slow I suspect it will last longer than any of the others
It’s possible for sure. I like the Bosch drills for the most part but their impacts have never impressed me much in terms of performance
never understood why everyone thinks Chinese made Milwaukee tools are premium, I like Milwaukee because of the resell value everyone follows trends
Yes more expensive means longer life, but not always. Ive had one Ryobi and Dewalt oscillating tools fall apart. And many Dewalt failures.
I think newer tools by high end brands are being made cheaper today and less reliable.
I think you can get quality tools at all price points (and also junk tools). What I have also found is that you typically get more advanced tools at higher price points. Whether that is with better safety tech or with more cutting edge technology. Lower price points can produce power but making to a price point usually sacrificing those.
More expensive means faster, not always better
No 12-volt Hyper Rough I mean Hyper Tough? No line of 12v is more budget; other than Warrior 😂
Hyper Tough is an option but I don’t feel like they compete as well across the board as Skil and I really hate the charging method they have.
@@TinkerWithTools I totally agree. It would be a waste of time and money to show the obvious fact that HT lacks the edge of beating out brands like these. Skil 12v is the true under dog but I worry about their future. I hope Chervon will keep this line alive but only time will tell. Ty for this video
Eventhough Bosch is the lowest on all the tested performanced , But if i did't hearded wrong , somehow it was the quited impact compared to competitors , quiter than Dewalt Skil and Milwaukee the loudest
This is true. Milwaukee also has their Surge impact drivers (which is what I own) which are a bit lower-powered but a lot quieter as well. The Bosch tools are really nicely made, they just need an injection of power to remain competitive.
@@dperreno agreed, that Bosch needs updating. It's been in the market for about 7 years and it's no longer competitive with other 12V brands unless you only work with 3" and shorter screws
I think being quieter in part comes from hitting 50% less fast and hard. There is a place for a tool like the Bosch and plenty of people do like it's solid build and reliability, but the combination of lacking performance and also some odd ergonomics for me is the deal killer.
@@dperreno That true , Bosch 12V lineup maybe has been forgotten because the lacking performanced when compared to other competitions , it still nice to me but in some case it can't done the job as fast as others , Surge or Oil-pulsed impact driver is still a lot quieter than Normal impact driver , i have ones but come from Makita LXT , love it
@@engineer_alv for somehow , i don't think this Bosch Brushless 12V impact driver is an update version from Brushed one , just because the Lacking performanced , brushless motor is still an update , but the power make me disapointed
Good info but jus no the bosch sucks
Spend top dollar like Festool or Hilti…no you don’t need to, but if you drop right down to budget tools you get what you paid for. For power tools I recommend sticking to tried and true good quality tools which you’ll enjoy using instead of cursing a poor tool’s inadequacies. DeWalt, Milwaukee, Makita will see you right for every tool with the power to make light work of every use. You can buy others, but how good they are usually varies from tool to tool. Personally I believe in buy once cry once….DeWalt is near double the price of Ryobi, but you’ll enjoy using the tool and have confidence in it. Avoid at all costs the cheapest near toy grade tools. They will be under powered, often inaccurate where it matters and probably not last long. Best advice…research YT tool user channels before spending out…it might save you buying a lemon!
Ok I've read this twice and here's my theory. You are a AI bot that's been prompted to be a non-native English speaker using a another AI bot to check for grammar but not coherence.
The whole pro vs prosumer is no longer a talking point. Pros are ysing lower brands because they get the job done at half the price. Amatuers are using the so called pro tools do to wanting the name brand.