P30 Optic Mount Comparison: LTT RDO vs Wright Armory iDot (Sunday Gear Review)
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We also have the 509T and will have the EPS plates very soon.
If I get the RDO slide cut now (with the RMR footprint), will I be able to swap out to an EPS plate when its available or is the slide cut differently for an EPS?
@@jerred Yes, you will be able to buy a plate kit and change out the plate and front sight.
I’ve waited to buy a p30 for years waiting for a better reset and optic cut. Stumbled on a video this morning of the LTT p30 and ordered right away. I have one of his 92s and the man is good at what he does.
Did you get it yet? If so, any feedback? I have a LTT P30L coming this week.
LTT technically aren’t responsible for the trigger upgrade. That’s all on gray guns which has been around for a few years already. They just came out with a way to cut the slide, and added in the gray guns trigger
I already bought & paid for my P30 LEM slide cut at LTT. Now, I am conflicted on sending it now or waiting till I use it in a class next week! Decisions Decisions! I can’t wait for both! Lol. Thanks for the info.
Huh, had no idea this was even an option. Thorough review! Excellent information and I plan to send off my P30 ASAP.
Alternately, you could send your P30 to either of them to have it milled.
Wright Armory also does USP's. I sent them my USP9T along with a Trijicon SRO. They will cerakote, mount, laser bore sight, & lower 1/3 Co-witness before sending it back. They've had it about a month. Shouldn't be too much longer until I get it back. I am also on the waiting list for the P30L from Langdon Tactical when it comes back in stock. I could have bought a P30L somewhere else and mail it to them but I'd rather buy it from them and get them to do all of the work just like your P30 (Milling, Cerakote, straight trigger, short reset, trigger pull weight) Both companies have excellent customer service. I heard about both companies from your channel from previous reviews. Thanks for the excellent review and comparison.
Excellent on both. I got my USP back right after that post and the P30L came back in stock at Langdon Tactical. I mounted a RMR on the USP9T and a SRO on the P30L. Both guns shoot great. Great quality work from both companies. Both have excellent Back up iron sights that sit low in the window. @@paddypibblet846
awesome, thanks for the video
I got mine with wright's set up for a 509. I guess even if i wanted to i couldn't have done the langdon due to it not being rmr footprint. But they both look amazing and hopefully help as an "unnoficial relaunch" of the p30 line.. these are fantastic pistols to be considered when buying a defensive tool
Love the color of that Wright Armory cerakote! 💛💛🖤🖤
It is a good looking slide.
I’m curious if you have any experience with APO (Ashbury Precision Ordinance), they appear to do quality work? I’m sitting on the fence as to which of the three to send my P30s to.
I love the riton prd that came on my gx4,hate the trigger pull,love the size/weight,although Almost too small. Thinking about getting the xd40 and glock 17 cut If, I can afford it!
I'm a fan of having the slide milled for the exact optic. Upside is that it sits lower because there's no adapter plate and there's one less thing to break, downside is that it's a permanent cut and you can't play with other optics. I bought a non-optic Shield Plus and had it milled exactly for a Holosun 507k. The Holosun checks all the boxes I need so I don't feel like I'm missing out by not being able to change to an RMR or whatever.
I hear that, but I honestly don't think that sitting lower really provides any advantages in 2022.
What is the finish on that slide? Looking at milling options and SAS offers a battle worn cerakote.
i took advantage of Wright Armory’s black friday deal for the i-DOT for 350. seems like a solid mounting solution
I stopped by Wright today on a work break to ask about this exact Black Friday sale and ended up ordering a P30L, really looking forward to trying it out
setting a reminder for later this year for this sale thanks.
Would be awesome if we can get a long term update on these optic plates! I’m curious to see if there have been any issues with plates loosening, deformation of plate (I remember reading the WA plate is aluminum), etc. thanks as always for the terrific content!
So far no challenges detected with either. My WA plate has about 47000 rounds downrange and that's not an exaggeration.
@@ASPextra impressive testimonial!
Hi John awesome review! Was trying to compare LLT and Wright and found your comparison video. Great job.
I am looking to place a SRO on my p30L but was concerned about the optic hanging over the ejection port. How much distance is there between the front of the cut and the ejection port for both cuts? Do you think the SRO length is an issue with the ejection port?
Thanks in advance for your help! Keep up the p30 content it is awesome!
I would guess it would be fine. I don’t have a great way to measure it precisely.
Thanks for the comparison and contrast! I'm putting the LTT P30 with LEM on my list. I'm a fan of the Holosun 507c with ACSS reticle as this works out great for my personal preference.
Good choice!
I am very happy with my P30sk (Gray Guns) and the iDOT system from Wright Armory. It is a solid set up in every respect. As I think you mentioned, switching from the RMR footprint necessitates the purchase of a different plate ($112.99 plus tax and shipping for any and each of the three options other than the one you chose when first purchased).
Which holster and which dot do you have on your SK? I’m interested in doing the same to mine…
I have an RMR and use a G-Code.
@@colewestwood2906 Hey do you have the eclipse or incog holster? And how do you like it?
@@DeadlyMoogle I have the Eclipse. I prefer the clip placement over the Incog. It is excellent.
John, what exactly does LTT trigger job entail, compared to a stock LEM?
Is he smoothing the pull, coating parts, shortening reset? Or does it deal with trigger pull weight only?
Thanks
Short reset and changes the break weight.
My AREX Delta M has the red dot cut in it as well. Perfectly mounted my holosun it right out of the box. Thanks again for switching me over to HK it's a beautiful and magnificent gun! Holosun has the larger window, if you go with the boxy trijicon rmr your getting a smaller window and a nasty looking dot. However it is designed for military and can take a little more of a beating than the Holosun, however for EDC the Holosun still can take a great beating, it's no sissy, just isn't true milspec. But if you're beating your dots up that much I think there are a slew of other issues you're going to have to worry about. Milspec on an edc isn't needed in 99% of cases.
Scott, the Arex is not a HK. It is a different gun.
@@ASPextra I fixed that error. So instead of writing a novel of my error.
John I have been contemplating switching to the P30, now that there are 2 viable red dot options I will be making the switch. I saw on Wright Armory’s sight they also offer the cut on a P30SK where as LTT specifically notes its not available on the SK. Would you know why one could offer it the other can’t? I’d like to buy one of each.
The spring location on the SK is a little different, so the guys at Wright believe they can do it well and it seems Langdon felt that they couldn't do it justice.
@@ASPextra Thank you John!
LTT is offering a Nitride finish on the HK with an optic cut? I was assuming it would be Cerakote, like with the Beretta 92s...
Check with them...I thought Nitride, might be cerakote. I am not an expert there.
It is also worth pointing out that LTT does not offer RDO for the P30SK, while Wright does do a cut for the P30SK. So those who prefer a smaller gun, Wright is the way to go.
I'm going to save up for the LTT P30SK with factory sights, then send it in to WRight for the RDO cut. :D
the other issue is that with those idiotic fixed rear sights, you're stuck with whatever height they choose and they design around the SRO height which means if you want an RMR the sights are going to take up considerably more of that window....the Wright Armory is a better choice based on that alone.
Have you experienced any issues with ejection patterns and/or casings hitting the optic etc?
A2Z Tactical said he had issues with his Wright optic setup causing forward ejection patterns.
I’ve been running the early version of the iDot on my P30 for 2 years. No problems detected.
good afternoon i need to install a RED DOT to my HK P30L OR HK PSK
how or who is the best option to send or to do
just by a crimson trace 1500
Not sure what you mean with the CT, but to install a dot mounting option on a P30 I would recommend Langdon Tactical Technology or Wright Armory.
Here's a dumdum question: if your plate-mounted rear BUIS needs to be drifted to zero it or remove it, how do you do so? None of the methods for doing so seem like they would work if the plate is off the gun, but it doesn't seem like a good idea to apply lateral force to the plate when it's screwed to the slide.
The LTT plate has a fixed rear sight so it can't be adjusted. That's not a problem though, really. The iDot is a dovetail mount that you could use a sight pusher I think no problem on. I don't think I would beat it with a hammer though. :)
Write will also I-dot a sk that is presently not available from LTT.
Wright armory is my go to gun smith. Best in town.
Can either company do a P30SK?
Wright Armory does.
I do love wright armory does 45 series where as langdon does not
I don’t think retention holsters are being made for a p30 with an optic is there?
C&G Holsters gives the option of a Red Dot cut on their Kydex holsters
Langdon teased a Safariland light-bearing that fit the P30 with optic, but I haven't seen that in the wild yet.
I think but I'm not sure that Vedder Holsters does too
RDR Gear sells custom safari land models
Safariland GLS or various leather options with a thumb break.
Are the holosun red dots good?
Yes.
Good enough to be my everyday carry optic. Highly durable and good glass clarity at a good price.
Yeah, people are ditching their Trijicon rmr’s for the latest 507c ACSS VULCAN’S. So yeah, they’re good!
I've gotta question about both optics cuts: Do they come with a cover plate to keep the slide covered up if you have to remove the optics plate? Like if I had to send something back for exchange or repairs.
No. Both integrate the rear sight into the plate so if you have to send the plate back, send the whole slide.
I’m kinda amazed that any red dot works at all on pistols. I mean, if you practice, that little optic is gonna slam back and forth thousands of times. I think it’s kinda amazing that they can stay zeroed for any length of time.
It’s really a testament to modern engineering because the G forces they are subject to are incredible.
Update, LTT offers more than just the RMR footprint now.
Yay!
Another thing worth noting is that Landon’s Tactical WILL NOT work on the “S” models (safety lever) models.
The internals are different and cutting the optic is from what I hear, impossible.
@@ASPextra yeah that is what LTT also told me. However I just received confirmation from Wright Armory that the way the do their cut makes it possible on the models with safety lever so, I’ll be sending mine off. The comparison video was much appreciated and very helpful. 🤘
If only hk would make a p30sk in .40
I think the 40 has pretty much lived it’s life. Might be time to consider a change.
Yeah but nobody wants that in their pocket of course like I carry my glock 42 and 380 ACP I need it to slide right out when I need it no holder needed.
These are not pocket guns. They're guns to be carried on the waist.
You carry without anything covering your gun's trigger? You carry without anything keeping it from shifting around?
Your comment is out of touch (i.e. unrelated) with the actual content of this video.