received some of these from you last week, the connectors are in great shape!! Love how the whole thing is wrapped in the aluminum sealed inside the plastic with only two leads out. Thanks Jehu!!
For a vehicle, I liked it. For a power outage, I like it. To reduce pollution by recycling is another reason to build it. For info, I am glad this video is here. Just make sure this is feasible in your area. $125/Kwh per 1000 (?) full cycles = 12.5 cents per kWh. That's about the same rate we pay in Florida for FPL.
I know you did this video a long time ago, but some of my tips will still apply to future endeavors. It is almost always a good idea to put a series resistor in a micro controllers serial line. I use a 1000 ohm resistor most of the time, unless you use a very high baud rate (115200 baud or more), then a lower value resistor is called for. Now, you can get a high voltage of the old reliable LM317 regulator, I think it is an LM317V. I use them to power micro controllers inside my solid state power amplifiers that use 48VDC. The regulator has a 60VDS limit. An LM317V and a couple components and you can make yourself a 3.3V (or higher) regulator.
For anyone who cannot get their pack to wake up, here is what worked for me; the packs seem to have a lockout, which Jehu tripped when testing with the inverters. If you trip this lockout, connect the arduino as he showed in the video, then give the pack power on the smaller connector, the larger one does not work at all when the lockout is tripped, at least for me.
@@theman56 Before charging the meter read about 15 V, which I believe is just some leakage through the mosfets. In reality, it was at about 33V, which I could only see once it had started charging and the mosfets had turned on.
Badass setup!, can imagine running a few of those with a decent pure sine wave inverter and solar panels to match the power Wao so much power in such compact enclosure. Thanks for the video!!
Hi, the code for some reason is not working i tried multiple Arduino and i double checked all my connections and everything is correct . still not keeping the pack alive, please help
Very informative video as always, I am in look out for similar sealed batteries for my home inverter. Right now I am using a 900VA, 220 Volt inverter and a 150AH lead acid battery which manages to support 5, 6 hours of back up. How ever owing to frequent power cuts, the battery life is very short and its quiet expensive (to Indian standards) to replace every couple of years. I am considering to pick 3 or 4 of these sealed battery packs if you will be able to ship them to India. I have an Uno and a Nano which i bought for project. I am an Old timer so not so much into these online transaction and/or social media stuff. I apologize if this is an odd post here.
Ya led acid batteries aren't supposed to get low in voltage it makes there life expectancy drop every time only deep cycle have larger plates inside and can handle it so invest asap in different bats if you don't believe me look up car batteries for solar storage it'll explain everything
The arduino has multiple outputs. Just make new code sending individual signals and wire them individually to each output pin.. the uno has more pins than the smaller one..
So I’ve started prototyping a nice plug and play solution for people who just want to have a no fuss operation of this battery’s. Dose anyone have more information on the BMS like chip IDs. As I also want to build a smart version that will hopefully give us some battery information from the BMS
Jehu, is it possible you are seeing resistance build up on the DC Power strip? maybe that is why you show a lower amperage the further down the line you go as you test.
@@ItchyKneeSon Center tapping between the 2 strips instead of daisy chaining 2 in line would cut it significantly... other than that just have to beef up the conductors to stop voltage loss
Hi Jehu I am new to your channel. Cool stuffs you've got. Quick one. Can you have this system setup and have them for sale for some of us overseas where sourcing couple of DIY stuffs are challenging?
For integration with an existing grid tie inverter (Sunny Boy 5kW) would it be safe to wire 4 of these batteries in series. The inverter requires a minimum 120vdc to start. If that’s safe, any recommended BMS to allow for safe, automatic daily recharging when the sun is up (looking at Victron 250v MPPT Charge Controller but thinking it still needs BMS to keep each of the 4 packs in balance). Thanks for the great information!
thanks for the video.i noticed you used a xt60 for the charge connector.question is could i use 2 wires from there what do you do with the other 3 wires??
Great idea, can someone recommend good and more powerful inverters for this setup? I Don't like the idea of having a lot of inverters. I rather have few but more powerful. Thanks
Do not connect a non-5v tolerant serial line to a 5v output. Even with paralleling them all together, it makes no difference as the serial receivers inside the BMS draw virtually no current from the line, so you can never 'pull the data line voltage' down far enough to be within the 3v3-3v range. At best, the receivers are 5v logic tolerant, at worst the receivers will eventually be blown out after being pushed beyond spec and you will have effectively killed the BMSs.
@@OHydroTsunamiO You'd need new ones that play nice with the exact type of batteries otherwise you have fire hazard and / or kill the batteries. jehugarcia seems not really very proficient with electronics which is sad because the idea is great.
The Amazon link for the inverter is no longer working. Can you recommend a cheap inverter that can be grid tied? And how could I change how much power is being supplied by the system to the grid?
I bought two, but why do I measure 0.0V on the charging port? Is that bad or is it being disconnected to protect the low batt because it's hibernating... The discharge port reads ~5.5v so description says that means it's hibernating but I didn't see anything whether I can test actual battery voltage without opening it up
I got them charged no problem, just applied 42V power pack from my "40V lawn mower" and it held since yesterday. Just will need the serial code in order to use higher than 1A output
@@RichardGreco .........SO you can cheaply buy a STEP down Buck Convertor , and have to find a 36 volt version to step down to 12v . They are available , can also look for 24V lithium battery packs , and get the 24v to 12 v buck converter ......
This may not be the way to do this but does anyone know why on his site I would be having trouble placing an order trying to buy some scooter packs but it’s not letting me push any buttons thank you very much
This is an awesome update. So if I get a 4 Pack and wired the charge ports in parallel I can use a 42v 20A Charger? Since each battery is limited to 5A?
@@jehugarcia Sick! So the discharge port can be used to charge and discharge. I appreciate the info man, Been watching you for so long and learning so much!
@@jehugarcia if you charge via the discharge port, aren't you bypassing some of the protections the BMS is there for? Like over voltage protection? If you can go faster but it's because you're feeding power right into the cells... I'm just not sure that you should be advising people to do that without some warning.
@@PablumMcDump Yes, I have some of these batteries and when charging over the larger connector the BMS does not seem to be able to disconnect the charger on over voltage. Only on the smaller charge port does it properly disconnect on over voltage.
Pretty dangerous choice of ac output sockets in those grid tie inverters. Why not choose male panel connectors instead,, as old PC power supplies used to have for powering the monitors..
hi Jehu... interested in how these might work out for a 12 v system in a tin top vanagon camper setup ( fridge computer ipad drone charging) and charging ryobi off an inverter for tools or would it be simpler to convert these to 120 volts system convert back to 12v? i eard of these battery packs from a friend who tipped me of to your video on them. i am in ontario calif. do you ever do any seminars?
Hello, Wanting to build a power wall. I have 54 245watt solar panels that are currently grid tied with 1200watt micro inverters on 4 panels each. I want to be able to store power. Any suggestions? thanks...
I have a bus I'm working on converting to an rv and I'm extremely interested in this How can I contact you to get more info and for you to teach me more? This seems so much more affordable rout possibly for me
I'm designing a tiny circuit board, about the size of a quarter that can run directly off the battery pack to do what the arduino is doing so the battery can be turned on and off with a simple switch. Would that be something you would be interested in? Should be cheaper and smaller than the arduino and will run off the high voltage just fine
@@Sirus20x6 can you upload the files for the design? Just placed my order, wanting to run the packs in series in the future wondering if the board can handle that
thanks for making this vid i have been looking at buying the packs but i wanted to use the original plugs and bms for my solar washer/dryer trailer on my camper semi outdoor setup
Obviously would need a different BMS than what's built in, but sure cells is cells. I just don't know how easy it is to take them out or rewire cells in here (I haven't taken it apart)
question for anyone who know about the watts and all, I have been kicking around the idea of building a solar generator. How does the 24 kwh compare to the lets say BLUETTI 2000w one?
The 24 kwh option or 24 “kilowatt” (1000 watts = 1 kwh) is 12 times more power then the Bluetti 2000w or 2kwh option. That’s like having 12 BLUETTI 2000w units. I hope that helps!
I’m interested in learning about procuring / purchasing some salvaged 18650 batteries/modules to build a power wall. Can I communicate with you privately or what do you advise me. I live in Puerto Rico, which is part of the US but most merchants don’t realize it, so it makes it very difficult for me to get started on any kind of project, Can you help me get started? A prompt response will be greatly appreciated.
Do you know what the OEM connectors are? What size heat shrink did you use to go around the battery? Do you have to charge using the charging port? What's the deal with that? Thanks for the vids!
Hey Jehu, thank you for your contents. Did you try to firstly do all the connections with the batteries shut off and only after that wake up the batteries with the arduino to solve the inrush problem (arduino externally powered)? Another question: is there any another cable on the discharge connector beyond +48v, gnd and TX? I'm wondering if there's a Vcc rail there (3.3/5/12v). On the scooter there must be a way to power the main board even with the battery shut off. Otherwise how can the main board switch on the batteries without being powered? (Something like BEC on ESC)
The battery always remains on. Only shuts off with large 1-2A loads without signal. That’s how it runs systems. There is tx, rx, alarm & positive /negative load leads. That’s it
@@jehugarcia haha ok. Nothing found online anyway. It could be something like an electric lock. I think the only way to figure it out is to test and reverse engineer the unit
@@jehugarcia I just got a few of these from you (thank you) and noticed that both were on at about 15v on the discharge terminals... is this expected? For what I need, 15v is actually perfect. Do I need to only wake it up to charge? Or is the signal only required if I want to discharge at 42v or greater than a few amps? Thanks
Hey Garcia, I really enjoy watching your videos. I am very interested in purchasing a set of these batteries for an electric sport bike that I am trying to restore. The bike is a 72v with a 2000watt motor which uses 6-DZF-20 batteries and I’m interested in converting it to use lithium batteries. Can you direct my in the right direction. Thank you.
Hi there, we will be importing these into Canada again, please contact AffordableEbikes@gmail.com Subject : Powerwall Packs + Quantity Desired They will be priced at $100CDN + shipping which covers import taxes Please respond at earliest convenience so we can get proper estimate of numbers for import
@@jacquesdorval8173 Hi there, we will be importing these into Canada again, please contact AffordableEbikes@gmail.com Subject : Powerwall Packs + Quantity Desired They will be priced at $100CDN + shipping which covers import taxes Please respond at earliest convenience so we can get proper estimate of numbers for import
@@musicwiz40 Hi there, we will be importing these into Canada again, please contact AffordableEbikes@gmail.com Subject : Powerwall Packs + Quantity Desired They will be priced at $100CDN + shipping which covers import taxes Please respond at earliest convenience so we can get proper estimate of numbers for import
I am such a noob. Have to set the the profile to Nano within the software. But my issue now is even without the Arduino, my pack is reading half of the voltage from the port. For example, even without the Arduino the voltage reading from the port is 14v. When I measure it from the battery its 28v. ???
@@chumanji9 I'm having the same issue with mine, where connecting the arduino makes no difference. I haven't figured out what's going on yet, unfortunately.
I was working on my pack some more, and I think I found the solution. These packs seem to have a lockout, which Jehu tripped when testing with the inverters. I think we both tripped the lockouts on our packs. To reset mine, I connected the arduino, then gave the pack power on the small connector. After a few seconds, the pack started up and is now working great.
@@jehugarcia That is disappointing. How does one monitor 10s packs? I have two arriving today (from you !!). I have a 10s BMS. I have a meter that can see the whole battery but nothing to monitor each of the ten.
Are you in the commercial complex of Arrow av. In between Helman and Vineyard in RANCHO? if so I will love to visit you... I have too many questions for you!
I had to reUpload this because Brad's phone number was visible and idiots were calling him. You guys are terrible.
lol
I saw hi number visible, thought of saying something, but didn't think battery fans would be like that.
👍
smh
a**holes! dude wtf! idiots indeed!
this is the 7th best powerwall Ive watched this weekend
received some of these from you last week, the connectors are in great shape!! Love how the whole thing is wrapped in the aluminum sealed inside the plastic with only two leads out. Thanks Jehu!!
For a vehicle, I liked it. For a power outage, I like it. To reduce pollution by recycling is another reason to build it. For info, I am glad this video is here. Just make sure this is feasible in your area. $125/Kwh per 1000 (?) full cycles = 12.5 cents per kWh. That's about the same rate we pay in Florida for FPL.
I know you did this video a long time ago, but some of my tips will still apply to future endeavors.
It is almost always a good idea to put a series resistor in a micro controllers serial line. I use a 1000 ohm resistor most of the time, unless you use a very high baud rate (115200 baud or more), then a lower value resistor is called for.
Now, you can get a high voltage of the old reliable LM317 regulator, I think it is an LM317V. I use them to power micro controllers inside my solid state power amplifiers that use 48VDC. The regulator has a 60VDS limit. An LM317V and a couple components and you can make yourself a 3.3V (or higher) regulator.
If you want to avoid high amp arching you can use one of those marine battery isolating switches, they can take some huge amperage.
Can you charge one up and discharge so we can see it’s actual wh and bms cut off voltage etc?
Wish we had someone like you in New Zealand.
For anyone who cannot get their pack to wake up, here is what worked for me; the packs seem to have a lockout, which Jehu tripped when testing with the inverters. If you trip this lockout, connect the arduino as he showed in the video, then give the pack power on the smaller connector, the larger one does not work at all when the lockout is tripped, at least for me.
Did you take any voltage readings when you received the batteries (before charging) if so what voltage was it?
@@theman56 Before charging the meter read about 15 V, which I believe is just some leakage through the mosfets. In reality, it was at about 33V, which I could only see once it had started charging and the mosfets had turned on.
you can also use a cheaper means which NE555 configured in astable mood
Definitely something curious that makes sense. I love the idea and need to build one
Badass setup!, can imagine running a few of those with a decent pure sine wave inverter and solar panels to match the power Wao so much power in such compact enclosure. Thanks for the video!!
Awesome information on great educational video!! Thanks for sharing.
Appreciate the effort at 4:45am good work
Haha. Thanks for fixing that 😅
Hi, the code for some reason is not working i tried multiple Arduino and i double checked all my connections and everything is correct . still not keeping the pack alive, please help
Thanks for the info, much appreciated . Have a great weekend. M
I wonder if you could make a 555 timer circuit do the job.
Lol the amount of scooter batteries you have is insane!!
The whine at 19:18 when it all started to bug. WEEEEET!
Very informative video as always, I am in look out for similar sealed batteries for my home inverter. Right now I am using a 900VA, 220 Volt inverter and a 150AH lead acid battery which manages to support 5, 6 hours of back up. How ever owing to frequent power cuts, the battery life is very short and its quiet expensive (to Indian standards) to replace every couple of years.
I am considering to pick 3 or 4 of these sealed battery packs if you will be able to ship them to India. I have an Uno and a Nano which i bought for project.
I am an Old timer so not so much into these online transaction and/or social media stuff. I apologize if this is an odd post here.
Ya led acid batteries aren't supposed to get low in voltage it makes there life expectancy drop every time only deep cycle have larger plates inside and can handle it so invest asap in different bats if you don't believe me look up car batteries for solar storage it'll explain everything
Is that a barn door in the background WHOA
The arduino has multiple outputs. Just make new code sending individual signals and wire them individually to each output pin.. the uno has more pins than the smaller one..
Only one is labeled tx can other pins act as tx?
@@jehugarcia an uno only has one set of serial pins but a mega 4 sets of serial pins
How to create a battery backup for a 7.5 kwh solar panels system
Hi, What is the weight of one pack with aluminum casing?
10lbs
Where did you get that arduino hex numbers from? Kinda interested how it was reversed
So I’ve started prototyping a nice plug and play solution for people who just want to have a no fuss operation of this battery’s. Dose anyone have more information on the BMS like chip IDs. As I also want to build a smart version that will hopefully give us some battery information from the BMS
Definitely interested in this!
Sign me up
stm32 chip runs the bms
have a browse on this site to get some info in the battery
scootertalk.org/forum/
Xiaomi M365 36v batteries don't require any external methods of powering them and keeping them on
That battery’s shown in the video need a enable command sent every 5 seconds to keep them enabled
Jehu, is it possible you are seeing resistance build up on the DC Power strip? maybe that is why you show a lower amperage the further down the line you go as you test.
correct
How could this be mitigated?
@@ItchyKneeSon Center tapping between the 2 strips instead of daisy chaining 2 in line would cut it significantly... other than that just have to beef up the conductors to stop voltage loss
The inverter is no longer available, do you have any other suggestions?
Hi Jehu I am new to your channel. Cool stuffs you've got. Quick one. Can you have this system setup and have them for sale for some of us overseas where sourcing couple of DIY stuffs are challenging?
For integration with an existing grid tie inverter (Sunny Boy 5kW) would it be safe to wire 4 of these batteries in series. The inverter requires a minimum 120vdc to start. If that’s safe, any recommended BMS to allow for safe, automatic daily recharging when the sun is up (looking at Victron 250v MPPT Charge Controller but thinking it still needs BMS to keep each of the 4 packs in balance). Thanks for the great information!
Jehu can you share the mating connector information and part numbers?
Small one and large one for batteries that do not come with them.
thanks for the video.i noticed you used a xt60 for the charge connector.question is could i use 2 wires from there what do you do with the other 3 wires??
Great idea, can someone recommend good and more powerful inverters for this setup? I Don't like the idea of having a lot of inverters. I rather have few but more powerful. Thanks
Commercial home power backup inverters? I can easily find inverters upto 1200 KVA in the Indian market
Do not connect a non-5v tolerant serial line to a 5v output. Even with paralleling them all together, it makes no difference as the serial receivers inside the BMS draw virtually no current from the line, so you can never 'pull the data line voltage' down far enough to be within the 3v3-3v range. At best, the receivers are 5v logic tolerant, at worst the receivers will eventually be blown out after being pushed beyond spec and you will have effectively killed the BMSs.
Wouldn't it be easier to just replace the BMS on the scooter batteries? Avoid all the problems in the video.
@@OHydroTsunamiO You'd need new ones that play nice with the exact type of batteries otherwise you have fire hazard and / or kill the batteries.
jehugarcia seems not really very proficient with electronics which is sad because the idea is great.
First smart suggestion I heard in all this chatter! Good luck taking those batteries out of that aluminum casing.
Did you make that charger 🔌 with that yellow connection ?
Its usually not a good idea to be doing that on the carpet, due to static discharge you could fry the circuit of the board..just a heads up :D
The Amazon link for the inverter is no longer working. Can you recommend a cheap inverter that can be grid tied? And how could I change how much power is being supplied by the system to the grid?
I would love a big system for a remote property in New Zealand 🇳🇿, would that be possible🤷🏼♂️‼️🙏🏻
New Zealand sweet!,i'd love too visit their!
jump scooters here in nz same battery's same code to wake
@@Buddasticks cost?
@@james-williambraithwaite1095 how many you want ?
@@Buddasticks need to run an off grid home in the Marlboro Sounds. 🤷🏼♂️
Love your videos
All, can these batteries be put in series by two three without problems?
Yes
Wow that is a good price with BMS.
Awesome. Good job.
I bought two, but why do I measure 0.0V on the charging port? Is that bad or is it being disconnected to protect the low batt because it's hibernating... The discharge port reads ~5.5v so description says that means it's hibernating but I didn't see anything whether I can test actual battery voltage without opening it up
I got them charged no problem, just applied 42V power pack from my "40V lawn mower" and it held since yesterday. Just will need the serial code in order to use higher than 1A output
I would love a stack of these for my camper. How would I go from the 36v down to 12v?
You go from the batteries to a power inverter 120v ac And plug in your whole camp or to it.
You need a step down converter. They're pretty cheap. I wouldn't necessarily buy the CHEAPEST one off of aliexpress though. 😉😎👍
Did you find the device that you was looking for your needs?
@@MrSeth166 no I haven’t. I would like to replace the 12v battery and add a Li pack.
@@RichardGreco .........SO you can cheaply buy a STEP down Buck Convertor , and have to find a 36 volt version to step down to 12v . They are available , can also look for 24V lithium battery packs , and get the 24v to 12 v buck converter ......
Can these be safely charged in parallel using the discharge port?
Yes
This may not be the way to do this but does anyone know why on his site I would be having trouble placing an order trying to buy some scooter packs but it’s not letting me push any buttons thank you very much
Where can I find the connector that connects into these packs?
aliexpress, banggood
www.mutuallc.com/L513-screw-locking-5-pin-Battery-connector-pd43402085.html
@@CoryTaylor904 Thanks! do you know what the smaller connector is?
@@theman56 it's on the same site. They won't have it in stock untill someone places a large order.
@@theman56 www.mutuallc.com/Z409F-4-pin-Battery-connector-pd40602085.html
Should you not have taken the - from the far end of your pack?
Jehu you are a legend
You sell 100A BATTERY ISOLATOR KILL switch. It is switching of only + or - . Should it cut both ( According to the regulations
)?
Where can I buy bulk stuff like that? Or if you wanna just float me some scraps ill take them off hour hand lol
Just bought 6 packs in the sale!
Do you know what the voltage of the batteries were when you received them?
Can we get some similar battery in europe? looking for a good fit for an atv electric conversion
This is an awesome update. So if I get a 4 Pack and wired the charge ports in parallel I can use a 42v 20A Charger? Since each battery is limited to 5A?
Yes
Or 100a using the discharging point
@@jehugarcia Sick! So the discharge port can be used to charge and discharge. I appreciate the info man, Been watching you for so long and learning so much!
@@jehugarcia if you charge via the discharge port, aren't you bypassing some of the protections the BMS is there for?
Like over voltage protection?
If you can go faster but it's because you're feeding power right into the cells... I'm just not sure that you should be advising people to do that without some warning.
@@PablumMcDump Yes, I have some of these batteries and when charging over the larger connector the BMS does not seem to be able to disconnect the charger on over voltage. Only on the smaller charge port does it properly disconnect on over voltage.
Pretty dangerous choice of ac output sockets in those grid tie inverters. Why not choose male panel connectors instead,, as old PC power supplies used to have for powering the monitors..
Because 2000w @220vac is only 9A, that plug can handle 15A
@@jehugarcia I mean especially because of shock hazard. The male connector on the other hand has the poles out of reach.
The correct SI spelling is kWh and not Kwh as in the title. Watt is with a W to honor Mr. Watt. The SI prefix for thousand is a lower case k.
hi Jehu... interested in how these might work out for a 12 v system in a tin top vanagon camper setup ( fridge computer ipad drone charging) and charging ryobi off an inverter for tools or would it be simpler to convert these to 120 volts system convert back to 12v? i eard of these battery packs from a friend who tipped me of to your video on them. i am in ontario calif. do you ever do any seminars?
Hello, Wanting to build a power wall. I have 54 245watt solar panels that are currently grid tied with 1200watt micro inverters on 4 panels each. I want to be able to store power. Any suggestions?
thanks...
how is that isdt working in the 48v range? I cant get anything above 8s range.
Wish i could have got a few of these delivered is there a reason you are not shipping international ?
too many restrictions on batteries
@@jehugarcia Fair call 😉
This is pretty awesome! Do you build batteries up and sell them off?
Putting electronics on the carpet is not good for a bare board. ESD could zap the board or cause a failure later on.
god bless you i love that you though of the needy
hi jehu , do you still have those scooter batteries ? , your shop says they are sold out.. are they coming back?
And for my next power wall
I have a bus I'm working on converting to an rv and I'm extremely interested in this
How can I contact you to get more info and for you to teach me more? This seems so much more affordable rout possibly for me
You have to do your own research, you can start by watching all my videos.
I'm designing a tiny circuit board, about the size of a quarter that can run directly off the battery pack to do what the arduino is doing so the battery can be turned on and off with a simple switch. Would that be something you would be interested in? Should be cheaper and smaller than the arduino and will run off the high voltage just fine
Yes make it, we’ll all buy it from you
@@jehugarcia ok, might have the design done tonight or tomorrow. 30 test boards take about 10 days from china. I'll keep you informed.
Yes very much interested.
@@byronlovesdrifting1 www.etsy.com/listing/905013328/es-90-battery-activator?ref=shop_home_active_1
@@Sirus20x6 can you upload the files for the design? Just placed my order, wanting to run the packs in series in the future wondering if the board can handle that
Portable charger for the Chevrolet Volt Owners.
hey jehu, do you offer these in a kit yet?
wow i wanna buy some soon
Battery is dead,change cycle is 800 to 1000 ,in rental this has been accomplished.
thanks for making this vid i have been looking at buying the packs but i wanted to use the original plugs and bms for my solar washer/dryer trailer on my camper semi outdoor setup
can i gut out the internals and just arrange the cells to turn it to a 12v battery
Obviously would need a different BMS than what's built in, but sure cells is cells. I just don't know how easy it is to take them out or rewire cells in here (I haven't taken it apart)
Can i wake the batterys up by taking them apart and putting them in a smart charger like a loketta 4 slot charge
Yes, they are just 40 lithium cells inside. You can take them out and charge them separately.
But only for individual use of batteries, not for charging a large pack.
LTO cells - whats your opinion please ?
the battery wiring should be first in last out. That should be more balanced.
question for anyone who know about the watts and all, I have been kicking around the idea of building a solar generator. How does the 24 kwh compare to the lets say BLUETTI 2000w one?
The 24 kwh option or 24 “kilowatt” (1000 watts = 1 kwh) is 12 times more power then the Bluetti 2000w or 2kwh option. That’s like having 12 BLUETTI 2000w units. I hope that helps!
@@christianperi 100% does! just have to plan a build and use those for a solar generator. ( not offgrid but for use now and then when power fails)
I’m interested in learning about procuring / purchasing some salvaged 18650 batteries/modules to build a power wall. Can I communicate with you privately or what do you advise me. I live in Puerto Rico, which is part of the US but most merchants don’t realize it, so it makes it very difficult for me to get started on any kind of project, Can you help me get started? A prompt response will be greatly appreciated.
So this pack has bms in it already right? I can simply replace it with my 36v bike battery?
Do you know what the OEM connectors are?
What size heat shrink did you use to go around the battery?
Do you have to charge using the charging port? What's the deal with that?
Thanks for the vids!
Those yellow connectors are called XT60.
@@radfordra right, those are standard connectors. Still looking for the "OEM" connectors as mentioned.
www.mutuallc.com/L513-screw-locking-5-pin-Battery-connector-pd43402085.html
I want to convert a Hinda CRX to electric, how would it be done?
probably not by asking in youtube comments
@@zachhoy Smart ass.
Yes pleaseee sell a kit so we can charge our packs
6:00 why it is blurred out
can i ask you some questions on a particular battery?
Is there a rechargeable cr435 pin battery?
Simply put. You are bypassing the BMS and basically connecting directly to the battery without any safety circuit.
is that safe?
Is it inrush, or they don’t like the common ground through the arduino?
Inrush, when I preCharged the caps then it runs
Still got any to buy and have you sorted out PayPal...????
Hey Jehu, thank you for your contents. Did you try to firstly do all the connections with the batteries shut off and only after that wake up the batteries with the arduino to solve the inrush problem (arduino externally powered)? Another question: is there any another cable on the discharge connector beyond +48v, gnd and TX? I'm wondering if there's a Vcc rail there (3.3/5/12v). On the scooter there must be a way to power the main board even with the battery shut off. Otherwise how can the main board switch on the batteries without being powered? (Something like BEC on ESC)
The battery always remains on. Only shuts off with large 1-2A loads without signal. That’s how it runs systems. There is tx, rx, alarm & positive /negative load leads. That’s it
@@jehugarcia Thanks for your reply. And what is alarm cable supposed to do?
You tell me
@@jehugarcia haha ok. Nothing found online anyway. It could be something like an electric lock. I think the only way to figure it out is to test and reverse engineer the unit
@@jehugarcia I just got a few of these from you (thank you) and noticed that both were on at about 15v on the discharge terminals... is this expected? For what I need, 15v is actually perfect. Do I need to only wake it up to charge? Or is the signal only required if I want to discharge at 42v or greater than a few amps? Thanks
Hey Garcia, I really enjoy watching your videos. I am very interested in purchasing a set of these batteries for an electric sport bike that I am trying to restore. The bike is a 72v with a 2000watt motor which uses 6-DZF-20 batteries and I’m interested in converting it to use lithium batteries. Can you direct my in the right direction. Thank you.
sure, im currently working one a 72v dongle for these packs, you might find it useful, stay tuned
@@jehugarcia I most definitely will, thanks.
How many cycles can you pull out of these batteries?
I myself would guess around a thousand, depending on many factors, since they are Li-Ion packs and probably optimized for power output...
@@GantryG How did you arrive at 1,000 cycles? Are these USED packs? How many deep discharge cycles have already been consumed?
@@GantryG Gotcha, yeah Lifepo4 is a better option for a solar wall in that since you'd get 3-5k cycles.
20 feet.on a ebike! Useless
Too bad you are not shipping those to Canada...
Yes I wish I could get them in Canada
Me too guys. Sucks we can't get them here. Hopefully he will look into a way to get them here for us.
Hi there, we will be importing these into Canada again, please contact
AffordableEbikes@gmail.com Subject : Powerwall Packs + Quantity Desired
They will be priced at $100CDN + shipping which covers import taxes
Please respond at earliest convenience so we can get proper estimate of numbers for import
@@jacquesdorval8173 Hi there, we will be importing these into Canada again, please contact
AffordableEbikes@gmail.com Subject : Powerwall Packs + Quantity Desired
They will be priced at $100CDN + shipping which covers import taxes
Please respond at earliest convenience so we can get proper estimate of numbers for import
@@musicwiz40 Hi there, we will be importing these into Canada again, please contact
AffordableEbikes@gmail.com Subject : Powerwall Packs + Quantity Desired
They will be priced at $100CDN + shipping which covers import taxes
Please respond at earliest convenience so we can get proper estimate of numbers for import
CAREFUL: Don’t you have to charge via the smaller charge port in order to use the BMS?
When I upload the code. It has a copy error, I copy the code exactly. Did I missed something?
I am such a noob. Have to set the the profile to Nano within the software. But my issue now is even without the Arduino, my pack is reading half of the voltage from the port. For example, even without the Arduino the voltage reading from the port is 14v. When I measure it from the battery its 28v. ???
@@chumanji9 I'm having the same issue with mine, where connecting the arduino makes no difference. I haven't figured out what's going on yet, unfortunately.
I was working on my pack some more, and I think I found the solution. These packs seem to have a lockout, which Jehu tripped when testing with the inverters. I think we both tripped the lockouts on our packs. To reset mine, I connected the arduino, then gave the pack power on the small connector. After a few seconds, the pack started up and is now working great.
@@timfryer9408 Yup that worked for me too. Applying power to the smaller connector woke up my packs too.
How hard are they to dissasemble? I want the cases and the batteries.
I made a video showing you
0:02 - 0:10 holy fk it all makes sense now. scooooooooder batterys come from scooters. man. thanks so much for clearn that up my dude
Question : Pack is 10s but the meter is 8s. Why use the 8s BattGo meter?
To power the arduino via the USB charge port
@@jehugarcia OK. So, it there a recommended 10s meter?
Doesn’t exist
@@jehugarcia That is disappointing. How does one monitor 10s packs? I have two arriving today (from you !!). I have a 10s BMS. I have a meter that can see the whole battery but nothing to monitor each of the ten.
A regular meter, i have the one I used linked
anyone have schematics for the 24kwh diy solar setup.
they need an ignition switch
Cool 😊👍
Are you in the commercial complex of Arrow av. In between Helman and Vineyard in RANCHO? if so I will love to visit you... I have too many questions for you!
No
Stalker vision Jehu.
Not under any circumstances Fontana Service! Very unprofessional IMO.
Peace. ✌️🙏👍