When the Orioles do spend, it always bites us. Chris Davis, Albert Belle, Miguel Tejada wasn't stellar. He didn't exactly suck, but I think his production wasn't worth the money. I am not at all saying this should deter us, we just need to do better. Lol.
@@therlowfoy9738 They're winning now, 2 months into the season. They have no legit 5th starter right now and 2-3 guys in that bullpen have been covering up for the mediocre to bad seasons from the rest of the 'pen. That ain't gonna work for a full season. Just because they have a good record right now doesn't mean you don't try to improve.
Tyler wells has been very solid and bradish shows some signs of a potentially good starter. Our rotation so far has not been stellar but they’ve been getting it done so far. The main issue is we don’t have a true innings eater. We traded for Cole Irvin who was supposed to be that guy but after having a10+ era to start the season, he’s basically just been sitting in AAA with the exception of one brief bullpen appearance. We have potentially a good rotation in the making but ngl I wanna see some more aggressive moves to improve. We are literally good in every other facet and while the starters have gotten it done so far, their lack of going deep has caused fatigue in the bullpen. Action simply needs to be taken now to make this team fulfill its potential
Irvin has been doing well in AAA. 6-1, 3.21 ERA, 22Ks in 42IP, with a WHIP of 1.05. With Grayson being sent down it wouldn't surprise me if Irvin gets another shot
@@darkwulf2k I think last year is about as good as it gets with kremer. Don’t get me wrong, that’s not at all bad, I just think the rotation is full of 4 level guys when we need at least a level 1, possibly a level 3 to boot.
@@davesravens47 I feel means is capable of being a 1, gibson is def a 2 at least, though in some ways pitching as a one. Wells has been pitching extremely well, outside of that last start vs the Yankees, and let's face it that Yank line up can make anyone look bad if your having an off day. A solid true 1 might be worth going for, but who can we snag that would be good enough from a team that will be willing to sell?
I expect the O's to be buyers at the deadline. Just remember one of our best pitchers is still on the DL in John Means. Gibson, Means, Wells make for a strong trio, Kramer has had some really good outings, and had a nice streak of 3 where he only gave up like 2-3 runs total. Braddish has the potential, and if he ends up the worst of the pitchers, it's fine. He has shut down potent offenses like Houston's last year, so the stuff is there.
Thank you! I saw your video come out about the Orioles when I was almost done editing this and was worried ppl would think I copied the idea/thumbnail concept haha, so Im glad you liked it!
Great video, the editing was fantastic! As an O's fan, this team continues to pleasantly surprise me, considering we made basically no impactful moves last offseason. Hopefully we can continue to add to this team through deadline deals and other acquisitions, but I've got some faith this team could make some noise in October.
John Angelo's is a joke. Wants the prestige of owning a team but doesnt want to put out for a winning franchise. He actually wants to move the team to Tenn. His dad never put money back into the team. And now he does the same thing. (Nothing) This young team is from the farm clubs. Watch when their initial contract runs out. Elias and Angelo's will trade out the good players for prospects that never turn out. I've been an O's fan since 1969. The Angelos dont care about the fans or the club. It's all about the money.
As a big orioles fan this Is an incredibly well edited video, I was like alright this guy is gonna have a few million subs, but no below 1000. Man keep it up and I'm sure you will blow up in no time. Thanks for this video!
if Gunnar stays hot and Adley picks up his power just a little we will be even scarier then we are. Hays is consistent af. Our bench guys and bottom of the order has been a Godsend. Hicks was a steal. Yes we need pitching but I love this team.
Definitely. A month later and all this is happening. Gunnar will win ROTY. Josh Jung fractured his thumb on a double play yesterday and I could’ve seen him as Gunnar’s main competition. This is a special team and they’re going to get better when Mullins and Means come back (Mullins returning soon). I’m not saying they’re the absolute best team in the MLB, the Braves are obviously excellent, but they’re both the only S tier teams rn. Os are more than capable of beating any team in the league.
Huge orioles fan here, great video loved the points you hit on. I will say though, Rodriguez is only 23 and will have some rough times but his stuff is very good. He has a good chance of being our ace in the future. I’ve always been 50/50 when it comes to this team spending money. Would it be nice to have a really good starting pitcher who we can rely on day in and day out? Yes. But, this is one of the best young cores that I’ve have seen in a long time. I don’t really like the idea of signing a big name free agent to a huge contract and have it eat up cap room for when we need to sign our young guys in the future. I have complete trust in Ellias so we’ll see what the future holds. Whatever it might be I can’t be more excited.
This is a Baltimore thing. Ken Burns' BASEBALL talks about the early days of pre Oriole baseball where the plan is to keep the fans coming back with thoughts of " we'll get there next year." No big spending. Remember when Reggie Jackson played on the Orioles?
Yup. 76 I think he hit twenty seven homers that year. .. But they finished second to the yankees who in turn Got swept by Cincinnati in the World Series.
Elias is so good at his job and so smart he will get the Orioles to win even if the owner balks. Elias is going to be a legend in this industry before too many more years go by.
As of today (August 7th), both the Braves and Os are the only teams with 70 wins. Just a month ago, the Braves were in a top tier by themselves in the MLB. At this rate, by the time August is over, the Orioles will be the best team in baseball. They’re playing that well from top to bottom. They start their series with Houston tomorrow and I think they’re gonna take care of business like they’ve been doing consistently all season.
This video was really really good! My advice would be to work on having the ending be a little smoother and tie things together before just stopping the video. Ending felt very abrupt but the rest of the video was top notch! Great job.
It’s feels so good to be a Orioles fan right now. We have had so many bad years recently and it seems that we are finally turning it around. If we can get an ace that would be perfect.
Although the Os don't have the starting pitching, they have the young guys that have created a hungry clubhouse. I still feel good about where they're headed Go Os!
Gibson has been great and everyone else is like watching a rollercoaster going up and down with every start. There are a lot of decisions that Elias will have to make, with Santander, Urias, Mateo, and Mountcastle being at the top of the list of decisions that need to be made. If Henderson is going to be the expected everyday 3rd baseman and Holliday is the SS of the future (2024), then the team needs to start making decisions that bring better bats into the lineup, via their prospects, while putting together some current roster players and a prospect or two for at least one starting pitcher. It's nice to want to have "gold glove" defense, but with all of the great defensive infielders in their system, they need to start getting the best bats into the lineup as well. With the massive position player depth that they have, they need to start capitalizing on that and also start making room for other guys to develop, while using that depth to get Starting pitching since Angelos doesn't want to spend in Free Agency, it seems.
Cedric Mullins was an average player up until his 30/30 season. Back in 2019 he got sent down all the way to AA. That 2021 season he quit switch hitting and stuck with batting lefty and he's been crushing it ever since.
I have been an Orioles fan for 57 consistent years and I've watched this family exploit this franchise, like father like son. So disappointing to watch year after year the distruction of my hometown team. Before competition to the Baltimore area with the Washington Nots, this ownership exploited the fan base. In spite of the greed of this family these players have come together because they ARE winners at heart, but rest assured they will desinagrate if funds aren't released. Can anyone say "Mike Mussina" ?
This has not aged well. The Os have clinched a spot, they’re leading the American League by two with a bakers dozen to go, and the pitching is heating up. They now have the chance to knock the Astros down into a WC spot. And they came from behind to force a split with the Rays while winning the tiebreaker over them. They’re primed to possibly do something magical. Oh and Gunnar is running away with the ROY. All with Bautista out with a UCL.
It's kinda surprising that all of their young core stars are American players. That seems pretty rare these days. Rutschman, Henderson, Cowser, Westberg, Holliday, Kjerstad. Come to think of it the only non-American position players on the whole team are Mateo and Santander.
Pitching has been our Achilles heel for a long time but there is a lot of potential for us...we are doing better than many expected...last season was a surprise for me and for others...this is going to be a major test for us and I wish the Angelos family would open their wallets and let some air in it
Cowser is not ready. Constantly batting in 2 strike counts striking out at an enormous rate avg dropped below .100 Needs to attack 1st or second strikes.
im not even an orioles fan, but even i thought theyve shouldve spend some money this past offseason. they were ready for it, now even moreso. won't be any more excuses to not spend money this offseason
All of those pitchers are having terrible seasons though. So why mention them? They’re going to get pitching through trades, as they always were going to. They’ll target someone young and controllable, as they always should have. Not a precariously-healthy and overpriced free agent. They nave a glut of quality middle-infield prospects. I think we should wait until after the deadline to keep exploiting this narrative of cheap ownership for clicks but that’s not how the internet works I guess. BTW it’s their bullpen that’s absolutely killing them right now, not the starters.
The orioles feel like the 2015 Astros. A couple holes, but a young and mega talented team. Might not be this year but they’re set up to be the real deal for several years
I tried to tell everyone about this Team last year when they fought all yr long and almost made the playoffs. Since i was born in 87 this Franchise has never really spent money. Us fans here in Baltimore have always kinda been use to it. I was lucky enough to get a chance to go see Jackson Holiday play ball in Aberdeen and he is already making noise. Ripken Stadium is not a hitters park but he seems to be ahead of progress compared to where most scouts thought he would be. From this point on it isn’t going to be so easy for the youngster like it has been his entire young playing career. Kids a sponge is the rumor
Orioles were top 10 in payroll during the tail end of the Showalter era, to say nothing of how much was wasted on the likes of Albert Belle and Rafael Palmeiro. It’s dishonest to say they’ve never spent money, it’s more that they haven’t spent money well (see Davis, Chris as the most recent example)
@@nuttybuddy7928 yeah they always spent money on players that were past their prime and several players the O’s paid big money for were average players. Adam Jones is a example of paying average Players big contracts to go along with Davis who you mentioned. Belle and Palmeiro were in the 90s bro. Half the people that Know this O’s team today couldn’t list 10 players from that decade.
@@howardcraigiv518 which proves my point, it’s not that the Orioles haven’t spent money, it’s that Peter Angelos hasn’t been spending it wisely. I know his son has claimed he doesn’t want to spend big money but I have faith that Mike Elias will convince the Angelos family to make the smart investments in extending the players we have, not overspending on the likes of a Davis anymore. They’re on the same trajectory as the Astros and I won’t let myself be sucked into the negativity of past regimes where you could see the writing on the wall, this group will be different. Call it a gut feeling, one not seen since ‘83
@@nuttybuddy7928 Ive been trying to get out to a Iron Birds game to see Jackson Holiday Play. Just haven’t made the free time to do so. Life has been crazy as of late but i hope to get out there with in the next two weeks.
Good news and bad news for the Orioles since this video came out: Good is Gunnar has really found his stride and he looks completely different from the start of the season. Bad is that Mullins is hurt and Mountcastle is still slumping.
I know this comment is a month old, so a lot has happened. Mountcastle dominated the Blue Jays, Orioles have has a whole this year. Mullins should be back around mid August. Down playing for Bowie for his rehab and he’s been killing it and looking great, just robbed a HR down there and appears to be flying around the field. With the Os playing great, there’s no reason to rush him back. Pitching has been stellar, 8-2 in our last 10 games thank to our bullpen. Everything is looking excellent for them right now. Just got to 70 so they’re tied for most wins in the MLB. This teams can beat anyone, and that’s including the Braves. I could see them having the best record in baseball before August is over, and that’s not just a homer take.
While I love any video about my Orioles, I just gotta touch on one thing. You talk about Ryan mountcastle coming up in 2020, than skip to his 2022 season, completely ignoring that he had a solid 2021 season. He had 33 homers and a 114 ops+, which is not amazing, but is 14 points above league average. He’s a pull hitter, so once Camden yards moved the left field wall back, he saw a drop in production. I’ve seen videos showing some of his swings from 2022 that were pop ups, but would’ve been home runs the previous year. I have faith he will get there again. He’s still young, just like the rest of the guys. He’s only in his third full year. And he’s shown flashes of brilliance, I.e. his 2 home run (one being a grand slam) and 9 RBI night against Oakland. Just sayin, you can’t talk about him without acknowledging his 2021 season and the set back that is the left field wall for him. Other than that, I love the video.
Mountcastle was robbed of ROY by Arrozerena. Should have won based on comparing that regular season stats. Arrozerena only won because of the previous post season performance.
The Angelos legacy has been a bad one. John is just like his father Peter, both very greedy with money and unwilling to spend on a team that clearly has the pieces to be a dynasty throughout the next 5-10 years.
Peter was willing to spend. They had the highest payroll in baseball in the late 90's for a year. Then had the payroll up to $170 mil a few years ago. His son seems like he's not willing to do that.
@@brandondillman5841 yea Peter wasn’t as cheap as everyone tries to make it seem. His problem is he wouldn’t spend on pitching, only on aging home run hitters like Albert belle, Sammy sosa, Chris Davis which is just a waste of money.
@@davesravens47 I'd give him a pass on the Belle signing. He was a stud for 2 years before his career was cut short due to injury. Sammy Sosa I believe was a trade. I don't remember how much of his contract they paid and it was probably more of an attempt to draw fans. The Chris Davis contract stings. He was the best power hitter in baseball at the time, he was in phenomenal shape and was a great guy in general. Nobody could have foreseen him falling off like he did that fast. It is strange how they never make any attempt to go after top tier starting pitching. Thinking back, the last real Ace they had was who, Erik Bedard? Before that Mike Mussina?
@@brandondillman5841 Erik bedard was only good for like 2-3 or years so I don’t fault them for using him as trade bait after all we ended up getting so much value back anyway. But yea I can’t remember a single ace pitcher being signed here. Like they just went to the clearance rack to find a diamond in the rough is about the most they would do to address pitching. We sure as hell have always had good bullpen guys though lol.
@@davesravens47 We also can't develop starting pitching at all. Even guys like Jake Arrieta and Kevin Gausman who came up through the O's system weren't great until they went somewhere else. So far, DL Hall and GRod have struggled badly at the major league level. They need to figure out how to develop starting pitching if they ever hope to consistently compete.
Should have seen that coming. So which starting pitchers should they have signed? deGrom? Rodon? If you're going to whine about the payroll. At least tell us who they should have spent money on. Most of the free agent SPs have been hurt or underperformed. But feel free to list off who you think someone else should have spent their money on. Feel free to cherry pick those pitchers who actually have pitched well. Hindsight is 20/20!
Did i forget Mullins and Urias kickin some ass again too??? Not a fan of the lanky goonish 10 million dollar signing of that starting pitcher we picked up...but Kremer, Coloumbe, Irvin, etc are all solid too
Orioles payroll from 2012-2018: 80 (2012), 91 (2013), 107 (2014), 110 (2015), 147 (2016), 163 (2017), 143 (2018). They have a track record of increasing their payroll when they are winning over a period of time. I think they will gradually increase their payroll over the next 5-6 years in a similar way. If their payroll this year is 60-70 million, I think it will be around 90 next year, 105-110 in 2025, 135-145 in 2026, 155-165 in 2027 and 175-190 in 2028 before steadily staying around 185-195 in 2029 to 2034
I'd be careful assuming they're going to spend like they did when Peter Angelos was in charge. His son is running the show now, and he said he wants to spend more like the Rays and Brewers going forward. I'll believe John Angelos is serious about winning when I see it.
Yeah, they said they were opening the piggy bank, but only picked up Gibson. No one should have expected Means to be back this year. I also feel they are putting too much into young pitchers coming up and peforming like seasoned vets. Wells, Kramer, and Brandish are all middle of the rotation guys. They still don't have that ace. This team, as is, with DeGrom would the team to beat. If had to play a best of 7 and had to go through DeGrom, Gibson, Wells, and then either Kramer or Brandish...Yikes. I would also say Gibson has pitched better than expected.
We just wish he would be a little bit more mindful of breaking balls. He swings at a lot of stuff that he shouldn't. But he hits a lot of homers so, hey :D
To no surprise the orioles have the #1 farm system in all of baseball.” Damn man, you just assume it’s easy to draft the right guy, not just once, but several times?
This was a pretty basic take, with no real analysis, and several mistakes as well. Santander was shown as one of the players the Orioles drafted and developed, when he was a Rule 5 pick. The video stated Mullins was the only Oriole to ever homer in his first game,. That is incorrect-Larry Hainey, Jonathan Schoop and Trey Mancini all did as well. Every Orioles fan knows Angelos only cares about profits, not winning pennants so that is hardly news. How about showing some examples of how the Orioles could have been "unstoppable"? Who should they have signed? Rodon? $30 million a year for six years and has yet to throw a pitch. Verlander? Vastly underperforming relative to his salary. DeGrom? $30 million plus and now out until 2025. If the Orioles had signed any one of those guys the fan base would be up in arms about how much money was wasted and how it will cripple the O"s financially for years. This was the visual equivalent of a high school book report written by reading the cover flap.
I am not at this point concerned about pitching and I would love to see The Orioles win the world series but that is not my major concern My major concern has a lifelong Oriole fan is ownership not paying these young guys and keeping them in an oil uniform for their entire career I already can see Henderson being gone rushman being gone and it really worries me that they're not going to keep the nucleus of this team together like the Yankees did with Jeter Rivera in that whole bunch
Peter Angelos has sucked this team and city dry for long enough. The only good decision he's made in the last few years is Ellias and Hyde. Besides that get out of their eay and sign checks. What is like to see is a veteran presence in the locker room especially one with lots of playoff experience.
"This team would be doing better if they had an owner willing to spend." Every Os fan knows it, but it stings every time we hear it
When the Orioles do spend, it always bites us. Chris Davis, Albert Belle, Miguel Tejada wasn't stellar. He didn't exactly suck, but I think his production wasn't worth the money. I am not at all saying this should deter us, we just need to do better. Lol.
Truth…
I disagree. They are winning now and adding a part time pitcher won't make a huge impact.
@@therlowfoy9738 They're winning now, 2 months into the season. They have no legit 5th starter right now and 2-3 guys in that bullpen have been covering up for the mediocre to bad seasons from the rest of the 'pen. That ain't gonna work for a full season. Just because they have a good record right now doesn't mean you don't try to improve.
@@Trumpisscum-420 You have no idea if it will work or not. Wait until the season ends and then we'll know. This ain't fake/fantasy sports...
Tyler wells has been very solid and bradish shows some signs of a potentially good starter. Our rotation so far has not been stellar but they’ve been getting it done so far. The main issue is we don’t have a true innings eater. We traded for Cole Irvin who was supposed to be that guy but after having a10+ era to start the season, he’s basically just been sitting in AAA with the exception of one brief bullpen appearance. We have potentially a good rotation in the making but ngl I wanna see some more aggressive moves to improve. We are literally good in every other facet and while the starters have gotten it done so far, their lack of going deep has caused fatigue in the bullpen. Action simply needs to be taken now to make this team fulfill its potential
Irvin has been doing well in AAA. 6-1, 3.21 ERA, 22Ks in 42IP, with a WHIP of 1.05. With Grayson being sent down it wouldn't surprise me if Irvin gets another shot
@@nickfraver5638 I agree. At least give him a shot til the deadline. It’s better than having a bullpen game every fifth day.
Kramer also has potential. He has show he can be dominant this season with some very solid starts.
@@darkwulf2k I think last year is about as good as it gets with kremer. Don’t get me wrong, that’s not at all bad, I just think the rotation is full of 4 level guys when we need at least a level 1, possibly a level 3 to boot.
@@davesravens47 I feel means is capable of being a 1, gibson is def a 2 at least, though in some ways pitching as a one. Wells has been pitching extremely well, outside of that last start vs the Yankees, and let's face it that Yank line up can make anyone look bad if your having an off day. A solid true 1 might be worth going for, but who can we snag that would be good enough from a team that will be willing to sell?
Sadly, no matter how strong your homegrown talent is, there’s a glass ceiling if you aren’t willing to spend on pitching.
I expect the O's to be buyers at the deadline. Just remember one of our best pitchers is still on the DL in John Means. Gibson, Means, Wells make for a strong trio, Kramer has had some really good outings, and had a nice streak of 3 where he only gave up like 2-3 runs total. Braddish has the potential, and if he ends up the worst of the pitchers, it's fine. He has shut down potent offenses like Houston's last year, so the stuff is there.
Great video, love the editing/presentation!
Thank you! I saw your video come out about the Orioles when I was almost done editing this and was worried ppl would think I copied the idea/thumbnail concept haha, so Im glad you liked it!
Great video, the editing was fantastic! As an O's fan, this team continues to pleasantly surprise me, considering we made basically no impactful moves last offseason. Hopefully we can continue to add to this team through deadline deals and other acquisitions, but I've got some faith this team could make some noise in October.
John Angelo's is a joke. Wants the prestige of owning a team but doesnt want to put out for a winning franchise. He actually wants to move the team to Tenn. His dad never put money back into the team. And now he does the same thing. (Nothing) This young team is from the farm clubs. Watch when their initial contract runs out. Elias and Angelo's will trade out the good players for prospects that never turn out. I've been an O's fan since 1969. The Angelos dont care about the fans or the club. It's all about the money.
As a big orioles fan this Is an incredibly well edited video, I was like alright this guy is gonna have a few million subs, but no below 1000. Man keep it up and I'm sure you will blow up in no time. Thanks for this video!
if Gunnar stays hot and Adley picks up his power just a little we will be even scarier then we are. Hays is consistent af. Our bench guys and bottom of the order has been a Godsend. Hicks was a steal. Yes we need pitching but I love this team.
Definitely. A month later and all this is happening. Gunnar will win ROTY. Josh Jung fractured his thumb on a double play yesterday and I could’ve seen him as Gunnar’s main competition. This is a special team and they’re going to get better when Mullins and Means come back (Mullins returning soon). I’m not saying they’re the absolute best team in the MLB, the Braves are obviously excellent, but they’re both the only S tier teams rn. Os are more than capable of beating any team in the league.
Fantastic Video
Huge orioles fan here, great video loved the points you hit on. I will say though, Rodriguez is only 23 and will have some rough times but his stuff is very good. He has a good chance of being our ace in the future. I’ve always been 50/50 when it comes to this team spending money. Would it be nice to have a really good starting pitcher who we can rely on day in and day out? Yes. But, this is one of the best young cores that I’ve have seen in a long time. I don’t really like the idea of signing a big name free agent to a huge contract and have it eat up cap room for when we need to sign our young guys in the future. I have complete trust in Ellias so we’ll see what the future holds. Whatever it might be I can’t be more excited.
Glad you feel that way but could you use a capitol "O" when spelling out Orioles please.
Ten days Later & Gunner is hitting .236 . He'll be fine! Go O's!! JJ
Bro I don't know what you're talking about. We are unstoppable. Nobody in the American League is touching us. Stop hating.
This is a Baltimore thing.
Ken Burns' BASEBALL talks about the early days of pre Oriole baseball where the plan is to keep the fans coming back with thoughts of " we'll get there next year."
No big spending.
Remember when Reggie Jackson played on the Orioles?
Yup. 76 I think he hit twenty seven homers that year. .. But they finished second to the yankees who in turn Got swept by Cincinnati in the World Series.
@@dontbeasucka.61 💕💕💕💕
Not only do I remember but waited till 12 o'clock am to get his autograph. Met him, his niece and grandmother.
your vidz are mad entertaining keep em up 👌
Tyler Wells has also been pretty good for the Orioles this year. Just above a 3 ERA and the lowest WHIP in the MLB.
Elias is so good at his job and so smart he will get the Orioles to win even if the owner balks. Elias is going to be a legend in this industry before too many more years go by.
And now Gunnar is on fire 🔥🔥🔥
As of today (August 7th), both the Braves and Os are the only teams with 70 wins. Just a month ago, the Braves were in a top tier by themselves in the MLB. At this rate, by the time August is over, the Orioles will be the best team in baseball. They’re playing that well from top to bottom. They start their series with Houston tomorrow and I think they’re gonna take care of business like they’ve been doing consistently all season.
This video was really really good! My advice would be to work on having the ending be a little smoother and tie things together before just stopping the video. Ending felt very abrupt but the rest of the video was top notch! Great job.
thank you, and I’d agree! Always trying to find the balance of writing something flows well but that also doesn’t drag on forever
This hasn't aged well....
It’s feels so good to be a Orioles fan right now. We have had so many bad years recently and it seems that we are finally turning it around. If we can get an ace that would be perfect.
this year fa class for pitching is ever good so if the owner wants to spend there good pitching out there
any other good youtube sports channel that make video essays/explainers like this? for baseball or other sports? love this stuff
Can you do a Miami Marlins video some point I'm a huge Marlins fan
3:00 Gunnar also hit a home run in his first game and I’m sure that many others have as well
Well Cedric did it for the first time in franchise history at the time, I wasn’t trying to say that no one’s done it since
Although the Os don't have the starting pitching, they have the young guys that have created a hungry clubhouse. I still feel good about where they're headed Go Os!
Gibson has been great and everyone else is like watching a rollercoaster going up and down with every start. There are a lot of decisions that Elias will have to make, with Santander, Urias, Mateo, and Mountcastle being at the top of the list of decisions that need to be made. If Henderson is going to be the expected everyday 3rd baseman and Holliday is the SS of the future (2024), then the team needs to start making decisions that bring better bats into the lineup, via their prospects, while putting together some current roster players and a prospect or two for at least one starting pitcher. It's nice to want to have "gold glove" defense, but with all of the great defensive infielders in their system, they need to start getting the best bats into the lineup as well. With the massive position player depth that they have, they need to start capitalizing on that and also start making room for other guys to develop, while using that depth to get Starting pitching since Angelos doesn't want to spend in Free Agency, it seems.
Cedric Mullins was an average player up until his 30/30 season. Back in 2019 he got sent down all the way to AA. That 2021 season he quit switch hitting and stuck with batting lefty and he's been crushing it ever since.
I have been an Orioles fan for 57 consistent years and I've watched this family exploit this franchise, like father like son. So disappointing to watch year after year the distruction of my hometown team. Before competition to the Baltimore area with the Washington Nots, this ownership exploited the fan base. In spite of the greed of this family these players have come together because they ARE winners at heart, but rest assured they will desinagrate if funds aren't released. Can anyone say "Mike Mussina" ?
This has not aged well. The Os have clinched a spot, they’re leading the American League by two with a bakers dozen to go, and the pitching is heating up. They now have the chance to knock the Astros down into a WC spot. And they came from behind to force a split with the Rays while winning the tiebreaker over them. They’re primed to possibly do something magical. Oh and Gunnar is running away with the ROY. All with Bautista out with a UCL.
It's kinda surprising that all of their young core stars are American players. That seems pretty rare these days. Rutschman, Henderson, Cowser, Westberg, Holliday, Kjerstad. Come to think of it the only non-American position players on the whole team are Mateo and Santander.
Pitching has been our Achilles heel for a long time but there is a lot of potential for us...we are doing better than many expected...last season was a surprise for me and for others...this is going to be a major test for us and I wish the Angelos family would open their wallets and let some air in it
Can you make a nationals video
The Orioles are not pushovers anymore, but they still aren’t playoff-caliber yet.
I Know their World Series Caliber, to win it. I ll have what you are drinking.
@@MrBaltimoreRon, they will be in a couple more years. The BA/RISP remains a problem, along with a pitching staff that has many declining pitchers.
Let’s go I’ve been ready😂
Cowser is not ready. Constantly batting in 2 strike counts striking out at an enormous rate avg dropped below .100 Needs to attack 1st or second strikes.
Great video. It's great that the Orioles are doing good but it's a shame these cheap owners are being rewarded
OHearn my o's MVP. He and Frasier r 2 strike count magicians.
im not even an orioles fan, but even i thought theyve shouldve spend some money this past offseason. they were ready for it, now even moreso. won't be any more excuses to not spend money this offseason
You should do a vid on the diamondbacks next
Great video. But I think you should have mentioned the pitches they could have signed in the offseason
Thank you! And good point, I’ll keep that in mind next time
All of those pitchers are having terrible seasons though. So why mention them?
They’re going to get pitching through trades, as they always were going to. They’ll target someone young and controllable, as they always should have. Not a precariously-healthy and overpriced free agent. They nave a glut of quality middle-infield prospects.
I think we should wait until after the deadline to keep exploiting this narrative of cheap ownership for clicks but that’s not how the internet works I guess.
BTW it’s their bullpen that’s absolutely killing them right now, not the starters.
I’m 22 years old and iv never seen the orioles have an ACE
The orioles feel like the 2015 Astros. A couple holes, but a young and mega talented team. Might not be this year but they’re set up to be the real deal for several years
kinda like the 2018 braves honestly maybe even a bit better
I tried to tell everyone about this Team last year when they fought all yr long and almost made the playoffs. Since i was born in 87 this Franchise has never really spent money. Us fans here in Baltimore have always kinda been use to it. I was lucky enough to get a chance to go see Jackson Holiday play ball in Aberdeen and he is already making noise. Ripken Stadium is not a hitters park but he seems to be ahead of progress compared to where most scouts thought he would be. From this point on it isn’t going to be so easy for the youngster like it has been his entire young playing career. Kids a sponge is the rumor
Orioles were top 10 in payroll during the tail end of the Showalter era, to say nothing of how much was wasted on the likes of Albert Belle and Rafael Palmeiro. It’s dishonest to say they’ve never spent money, it’s more that they haven’t spent money well (see Davis, Chris as the most recent example)
@@nuttybuddy7928 yeah they always spent money on players that were past their prime and several players the O’s paid big money for were average players.
Adam Jones is a example of paying average Players big contracts to go along with Davis who you mentioned.
Belle and Palmeiro were in the 90s bro.
Half the people that Know this O’s team today couldn’t list 10 players from that decade.
@@howardcraigiv518 which proves my point, it’s not that the Orioles haven’t spent money, it’s that Peter Angelos hasn’t been spending it wisely. I know his son has claimed he doesn’t want to spend big money but I have faith that Mike Elias will convince the Angelos family to make the smart investments in extending the players we have, not overspending on the likes of a Davis anymore. They’re on the same trajectory as the Astros and I won’t let myself be sucked into the negativity of past regimes where you could see the writing on the wall, this group will be different. Call it a gut feeling, one not seen since ‘83
@@nuttybuddy7928 Ive been trying to get out to a Iron Birds game to see Jackson Holiday Play. Just haven’t made the free time to do so. Life has been crazy as of late but i hope to get out there with in the next two weeks.
Good news and bad news for the Orioles since this video came out:
Good is Gunnar has really found his stride and he looks completely different from the start of the season.
Bad is that Mullins is hurt and Mountcastle is still slumping.
I know this comment is a month old, so a lot has happened. Mountcastle dominated the Blue Jays, Orioles have has a whole this year. Mullins should be back around mid August. Down playing for Bowie for his rehab and he’s been killing it and looking great, just robbed a HR down there and appears to be flying around the field. With the Os playing great, there’s no reason to rush him back. Pitching has been stellar, 8-2 in our last 10 games thank to our bullpen. Everything is looking excellent for them right now. Just got to 70 so they’re tied for most wins in the MLB. This teams can beat anyone, and that’s including the Braves. I could see them having the best record in baseball before August is over, and that’s not just a homer take.
I'm sorry was the title clickbait?
When he was talking about starting pitchers, he completely forgot about Tyler Wells
they alrdy have 85 wins
Exactly. They should have spent $10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.00 on Rodon, Verlander, Scherzer, and De Grom!
mets be like
If the Nationals move to Nashville the O's will regain a larger market and able to spend more money.
Duh the Os are moving there.
Mountcastle ain’t just average and Mullins did become the first orioles player to homer in there first game
You should make a video how the Pittsburgh Pirates have improved their team.
well... gunnar juiced those stats lmao
Someone on the team has finally watched the movie Moneyball
While I love any video about my Orioles, I just gotta touch on one thing. You talk about Ryan mountcastle coming up in 2020, than skip to his 2022 season, completely ignoring that he had a solid 2021 season. He had 33 homers and a 114 ops+, which is not amazing, but is 14 points above league average. He’s a pull hitter, so once Camden yards moved the left field wall back, he saw a drop in production. I’ve seen videos showing some of his swings from 2022 that were pop ups, but would’ve been home runs the previous year. I have faith he will get there again. He’s still young, just like the rest of the guys. He’s only in his third full year. And he’s shown flashes of brilliance, I.e. his 2 home run (one being a grand slam) and 9 RBI night against Oakland. Just sayin, you can’t talk about him without acknowledging his 2021 season and the set back that is the left field wall for him. Other than that, I love the video.
Mountcastle was robbed of ROY by Arrozerena. Should have won based on comparing that regular season stats. Arrozerena only won because of the previous post season performance.
Hot take haven't heard that in Baltimore before
Not to mention Gunnar exploded after this video and won AL player of the week.
There’s no way Jackson Holliday gets called up this season, right?
nope not close im thinking next years september call up and opening day 2025
WE got a pitcher baby LFG
The Angelos legacy has been a bad one. John is just like his father Peter, both very greedy with money and unwilling to spend on a team that clearly has the pieces to be a dynasty throughout the next 5-10 years.
Peter was willing to spend. They had the highest payroll in baseball in the late 90's for a year. Then had the payroll up to $170 mil a few years ago. His son seems like he's not willing to do that.
@@brandondillman5841 yea Peter wasn’t as cheap as everyone tries to make it seem. His problem is he wouldn’t spend on pitching, only on aging home run hitters like Albert belle, Sammy sosa, Chris Davis which is just a waste of money.
@@davesravens47 I'd give him a pass on the Belle signing. He was a stud for 2 years before his career was cut short due to injury. Sammy Sosa I believe was a trade. I don't remember how much of his contract they paid and it was probably more of an attempt to draw fans. The Chris Davis contract stings. He was the best power hitter in baseball at the time, he was in phenomenal shape and was a great guy in general. Nobody could have foreseen him falling off like he did that fast. It is strange how they never make any attempt to go after top tier starting pitching. Thinking back, the last real Ace they had was who, Erik Bedard? Before that Mike Mussina?
@@brandondillman5841 Erik bedard was only good for like 2-3 or years so I don’t fault them for using him as trade bait after all we ended up getting so much value back anyway. But yea I can’t remember a single ace pitcher being signed here. Like they just went to the clearance rack to find a diamond in the rough is about the most they would do to address pitching. We sure as hell have always had good bullpen guys though lol.
@@davesravens47 We also can't develop starting pitching at all. Even guys like Jake Arrieta and Kevin Gausman who came up through the O's system weren't great until they went somewhere else. So far, DL Hall and GRod have struggled badly at the major league level. They need to figure out how to develop starting pitching if they ever hope to consistently compete.
Can you do a pirates video! Like this for him to see it.
Ownership is the biggest problem for our Os. The Angelos have to go. Jist thonk if they could get Ohtani?!
Should have seen that coming. So which starting pitchers should they have signed? deGrom? Rodon? If you're going to whine about the payroll. At least tell us who they should have spent money on. Most of the free agent SPs have been hurt or underperformed. But feel free to list off who you think someone else should have spent their money on. Feel free to cherry pick those pitchers who actually have pitched well. Hindsight is 20/20!
Why have been?
Did i forget Mullins and Urias kickin some ass again too??? Not a fan of the lanky goonish 10 million dollar signing of that starting pitcher we picked up...but Kremer, Coloumbe, Irvin, etc are all solid too
Did you just seiously just disrespect Kyle Gibson? He's been our most consistent pitcher. You don't deserve this team.
and then you call irvin solid. of all people 🤮
sub count is WAY too low for this quality
Yeah the production on this is great.
Orioles payroll from 2012-2018: 80 (2012), 91 (2013), 107 (2014), 110 (2015), 147 (2016), 163 (2017), 143 (2018). They have a track record of increasing their payroll when they are winning over a period of time.
I think they will gradually increase their payroll over the next 5-6 years in a similar way. If their payroll this year is 60-70 million, I think it will be around 90 next year, 105-110 in 2025, 135-145 in 2026, 155-165 in 2027 and 175-190 in 2028 before steadily staying around 185-195 in 2029 to 2034
I'd be careful assuming they're going to spend like they did when Peter Angelos was in charge. His son is running the show now, and he said he wants to spend more like the Rays and Brewers going forward. I'll believe John Angelos is serious about winning when I see it.
@@brandondillman5841 yikes
Yeah, they said they were opening the piggy bank, but only picked up Gibson. No one should have expected Means to be back this year. I also feel they are putting too much into young pitchers coming up and peforming like seasoned vets. Wells, Kramer, and Brandish are all middle of the rotation guys. They still don't have that ace. This team, as is, with DeGrom would the team to beat. If had to play a best of 7 and had to go through DeGrom, Gibson, Wells, and then either Kramer or Brandish...Yikes. I would also say Gibson has pitched better than expected.
The Degrom portion of your comment aged poorly, he just got put on 60 day DL, likely TJ surgery required.
Their run diff suggests they aren’t as good as their record
Kyle bradish is a beast
Tyler wells is very solid
Grayson Rodriguez he’s getting there
Cole Irvin he alright
Kyle Gibson pretty good
Henderson is following the same path as Gavin Lux
2nd best record in baseball so id say thats pretty good.
Imagine thinking that 11 homers and 36 rbi to this point in the season isn't "productive" 🙄
We just wish he would be a little bit more mindful of breaking balls. He swings at a lot of stuff that he shouldn't.
But he hits a lot of homers so, hey :D
To no surprise the orioles have the #1 farm system in all of baseball.” Damn man, you just assume it’s easy to draft the right guy, not just once, but several times?
Make one about the dbacks
"Spending" is not what creates a great team.
How could you not talk about cano…………
i actually had him in the video at first but I cut it out when i was editing bc I was butchering his first name 💀
That’s it guys I’m buying the orioles
Blue jays soon?
hmm possibly
Could have? They may well be!
Dude Gunner could be ROTY lol
Hi
hi
Agree
This was a pretty basic take, with no real analysis, and several mistakes as well. Santander was shown as one of the players the Orioles drafted and developed, when he was a Rule 5 pick. The video stated Mullins was the only Oriole to ever homer in his first game,. That is incorrect-Larry Hainey, Jonathan Schoop and Trey Mancini all did as well.
Every Orioles fan knows Angelos only cares about profits, not winning pennants so that is hardly news. How about showing some examples of how the Orioles could have been "unstoppable"? Who should they have signed? Rodon? $30 million a year for six years and has yet to throw a pitch. Verlander? Vastly underperforming relative to his salary. DeGrom? $30 million plus and now out until 2025. If the Orioles had signed any one of those guys the fan base would be up in arms about how much money was wasted and how it will cripple the O"s financially for years.
This was the visual equivalent of a high school book report written by reading the cover flap.
This team is unstoppable. Y’all be feeding to much negativity everywhere. This team is nasty
Let's go O's
yea not sure if we can keep up with the yankees this year
Dodgers aren’t even top 5 in payroll anymore.
what ifs are literal wastes of energy and brain power and peoples time
Why does your voice go up at the end of every sentENCE?
Typically the intonation of a child telling a story.
This video didn't age well at all.
Angelos is a TOOL
The type of guy to not know shit about what hes talking about
lol
So wrong LOL
I am not at this point concerned about pitching and I would love to see The Orioles win the world series but that is not my major concern My major concern has a lifelong Oriole fan is ownership not paying these young guys and keeping them in an oil uniform for their entire career I already can see Henderson being gone rushman being gone and it really worries me that they're not going to keep the nucleus of this team together like the Yankees did with Jeter Rivera in that whole bunch
We are unstoppable!
What were you saying about "Could've"? Homie, they are CURRENTLY unstoppable.
Peter Angelos has sucked this team and city dry for long enough. The only good decision he's made in the last few years is Ellias and Hyde. Besides that get out of their eay and sign checks. What is like to see is a veteran presence in the locker room especially one with lots of playoff experience.