The fourth owner was Dave, a promising High School athlete who held the county 400m hurdles record for a number of years. He trained to become an accountant and held down a position of some responsibility in the office of a medium-sized engineering company but he never forgot his love of sporting competition. He liked jazz, but not the modern stuff. Dizzie, Louis, Basie - the classics. At age twenty-four became a vegetarian - although he occasionally eats line-caught fish, none of the farmed stuff. In later years...
I'll have to be financially stable in every sense before purchasing my first supercar. The best thing to do with your money is to invest rightly till then
The best advice that i learned from Manny Koshbin is don't buy a Super or luxury vintage car until you have 10 times the price of it in your Bank account, when you purchase a Super car you add a car to your garage but u add also maintenance and unexpected damages that can happen in future
I understand Manny advice but that's overkill. If most people did that - they would never own one. The 10-15% rule is enough - especially if you make even more with multiple streams of income. My investment properties pay for my exotics cars. It's many different things you can do to afford easily and responsibly. You don't need a million cash to afford a cheap 100k car, My first exotic was 100k put down 20k- financed 80k. Then traded up to more expensive cars. Now I have an Aventador, so it's not hard at all, Especially if you are making 20-25k plus a month with little to no debt with multiple streams and assets that produce income.
If you have that much money sitting in your bank account, that means that you are not investing your money properly. Money sitting in the bank doesn't really do anything for you because interest rates are so slow. It's better to have $1 million in a place where it can make you 5% on returns rather than having that $1 million sitting in your bank account making you 0.5% returns.
My friend and engine builder, Dave Tatum, used to race the 356 for the Porsche racing team in Germany around 1963 . He had some great stories of those days. Dave passed away last year, at 85.
@@jeffclark2725I haven't found anything on Dave on TH-cam, but his last several years was spent as a Flathead Guru , so Im sure some of the engines he built are in cars featured here. I don't think he was well known outside the racing community, but he knew some of the greats like Shelby, Miles, Gurney and Roush. He worked for Kar Kraft on the GT 40 project and was at the track the day Ken Miles died. He had raced against Miles and said you really had to work to keep up with him. Dave was one of those guys you talk to that seems to have done it all and you start to wonder if he's full of sh*t... But then you look at all the pictures on the wall of his Flathead shop and he's there with all the racing greats.
Jay Leno keeps talking about his Carerra like it’s just another option. That 4 cam engine is an impossible monster to maintain and J L is one of very few who could afford to drive it to the next service interval. 356’s are wonderful because plugs points and valve adjustment can be a Saturday morning job with the tools and time it takes to do a beetle. If they only built the 4 cam they’d all be gone and nobody would recognize the car. If they never built it nobody would’ve missed anything except a few high level racers. This SC is a gem.
In high school, my French teacher brought a red '65 SC home from Europe. I was always impressed with the door, hood, and engine cover gaps - simply incredible workmanship.
That's the sign of a gearhead in the making. When I was in high school I was wowed by specs and looks. I would never have thought of looking at panel gaps unless there were light shining through... But then I never went full gear head and grew up to look at cars like transportation from point A to point B. The most important for this is that they are reliable. Next up is economical, practical, and far far down the line are looks, comfort and performance.
In 1968 I bought a red 1952 356 as my first car ($750). It was the Porsche or a Jag XK120 for the same price. I chose the 356 because it seemed in a bit better condition. Then about a month later the crank broke in half (but it still ran, just a little rough) and it took the rest of the summer to find a replacement from a salvage yard in Texas. I was 18 and working as a mechanic at European Motors in Seattle. It had gray rubber Pirelli Rolle tires that may have been almost as old as the car. Almost no traction but very fun to drive. All oversteer. Loved that car. Wish I had it now. It appears easier to find parts for the vintage Porsche's now than it was then when it was only 16 years old.
Thats probably my favorite aspect of porsche as a company, they still care immensely about their old cars, the support they have for restoration projects, and just maintenance for these things is impressive. Its a nice change from other car companies that completely stop making parts for a five year old car. You can still get an old mercedes 300sl serviced by mercedes for relatively cheap, however you can hardly get parts for a mercedes mclaren SLR. They don’t even make brakes for those things anymore. Everything that isnt shared with another car literally cannot be found. Thats why i will always love porsche
Funny how that worked out, the parts. My 3rd car, maybe, was a 912. I bought it in like December and was up in the mountains driving in snow within weeks. I learned all the quirks of sticking the tail out under throttle. Lord All Mighty what a fun car. Not "fast" but it handled so well... Porsche for life.
@@imtheonevanhalen1557 Not true. The crank broke across the casting between two bearings so it contued to rotate and the broken parts forced each other to turn. It did make a bit of noise but old air-cooled VW/Porsche engines made a lot of mechanical noise anyway. I drove it around Seattle that way for at least a week before taking it apart. Quite surprised when the crank fell out in two pieces when I split the cases. I was rebuilding two or three engines, mostly Mercedes, every week back then and had never seen a broken crank like that. The replacement crank had apparently been used for drag racing because the locating pins that located the flywheel had been ripped out of the end of the crank so I had to weld up the flywheel end of the crank and remachine it with new holes for the pressed in pins which were in an asymmetrical pattern so the flywheel only fit in one position. Somewhat complicated. And the cylinders were chrome plated aluminum bores sold only as a set with new individually fitted pistons but fortunately were in good enough condition to use as they were. A lot of complexity for not very much power.
European Motors did a ton of work on my '88 535i. Small world! I was always told to avoid "Herman the German" the shop in the U-district with a reputation for not replacing parts that they said they replaced. 😅
And it's not like they're even the original tires. They're just really old replacements. There's no added value in keeping them on the car. He really should've put new tires on it a long time ago. I definitely wouldn't be doing 80 on the freeway with those tires.
Jay: "So that's kinda dangerous, right?" Guy: "I'm the 5th owner." Jay: "Can't be particularly safe, being 40 years old." Guy: "All original except the seats." Jay: "I think we better head back." Guy: "I keep it in the garage." Collectors who masquerade as car guys are the worst. "The tread looks good." Jfc.
He wants to sell the car and not spend any money on new tires. The next owner will probably not drive the car anyway. Which is a shame cars should be driven and enjoyed.
Oddly enough, this guy reminds me of my wife. When I ask a question, I have the pleasure of hearing a long, drawn out, pointless winding without a purpose. The question, ultimately, is never answered or heard of again. Mostly, I just make "statements" now. LOL!
Ever since Need for Speed Porsche Unleashed, I've always wanted a 356 A Speedster. They're were just such beautiful cars. But of course all the 356s were beautiful.
I met a guy who bought one in the early 70’s for $1500 and had owned it ever since. When I met him a few years ago the car was unrestored and had something like 200k miles on it. Ran great, he drove it all over the place, but it had faded paint, the top was non existent, interior was rough. Beautiful patina of the best kind. It was such an awesome car to me. Just a testament to this man’s love and enjoyment over a lifetime of experiences. I guess I envy that love and experience even more than the car itself, and stories like that are more the norm than the exception with cars like this. I would estimate that even in the poor cosmetic condition the car is still worth $125k-150k in today’s market.
I was 15 when I helped rebuild the engine in a '63 356C, red/black like this little car. It was purchased new by one of Werner Von Braun's launch pad architects. Bob maintained his car meticulously, and I'm sure he had it to the day he passed. How much I contributed to the effort I couldn't gauge. He routinely drove the car from North Alabama to Ontario and back, said it would do 100 mph all day.
I was a young soldier stationed in Germany and wanted a Porsche . My wife thought it was too much money so we bought a brand new 1964 Red Beetle . I still wish I had gone for the Porsche and the one I wanted was Red .
True. But personally, I always try to find out the history of anything vintage or antique purchased. If I had been a purchaser of a vehicle like this, I would have definitely taken notes about its history! 😁✌️❤️🦋🙏
Sounded like my dad who gives a full autobiography of the previous owner and his wife anytime he talks to someone about his car. I just roll my eyes and laugh at whoever asked
Thank you Mr. Leno for another amazing Car review, only thing missing was a new set a tires! I can’t believe that guy was driving it at 80 miles an hour with 40 year old tires on it🙏🏽
Yes...very irresponsible, and dangerous!...but lots of people are not aware that a person should replace the tires every 8 years, whether they look good, or not.
@@curbozerboomer1773 Depends on the manufacturer; I had a 10 year old barely worn Korean made Hankook tyre blow out due to carcase failure, whereas I've used Japanese made Bridgestone tyres made in the 80's that lacked traction because of hardened rubber but when I cut them in half, the carcases were in perfect condition.
well, speaking of irresponsible… Jay was really pounding that thing for a car with 40-year-old tires and all of discussion about how tires get rotten after 10 years, didn't seem to stop them from driving the thing or from the owner From driving 40 miles at 80 mph. Wow
Jay forgot the S90 engine option. Available pushrod engines from the factory in the later 356 models were all 1600 cc. The base touring engine was called “Die Damen” ( The Lady) in German and was rated at 60 horsepower DIN (75 SAE). It was fitted with twin Solex twin throat 32 NDIX carburetors. Top speed was 100-105 mph. The next step up was the “Super” 75 horsepower DIN also with twin Solexes. The Super was good for 110-115 mph fitted with an aftermarket exhaust. Above that was the Super 90 ( 90 hp DIN) variant. The top pushrod engine was the SC 105 hp DIN as in our featured car. It was only available for a couple years in the 356 and went on to power the 912. While based on the same basic motor, the higher outputs were obtained by higher compression, hotter camshaft, bigger carburetors, bigger valves and ports, and a higher red line. The Dr Fuhrman designed 4 cam race motor that Jay refers to in his own 356 B was very expensive to buy, build, and maintain. Few were sold to the public. This helps explain why the Carrera variant is so valued by Porsche collectors today. If you intend to actually drive a 356 on the road today, you will want a pushrod motor. As you might expect, the lower the rated power output, the longer the engine will last and stay in tune. As these cars have become very expensive, some owners pull the valuable original engine, put it in protective long term storage, and replace it with a much cheaper but considerably more powerful VW based variant of up to 2200cc displacement. The Porsche transaxle is quite strong, and can handle the big torque and power upgrade if it is in good condition. This strategy preserves the original motor and allows the owner to flog the replacement VW motor without undue concern. It worked for me.
I agree with most of your comment except for a few things. If you do build up a higher output 356 engine, do yourself a favour and spring for a counterbalanced crank, it'll be a much happier and longer lasting engine. If you change the oil every 1000 miles, the engines tend to last for a long long time. The transmission is reasonably durable until you get to the crown gear carrier, that is the same as an old VW Beetle and it inevitably cracks through the spider gear shaft locking pin hole if it's subjected to much more than 50 horsepower.
Rubber losing flexibility and cords becoming brittle are far more important than tread depth, but I sure Jay and most of you know that! Few things sound as sweet as a flat four at full song, and even though I only have a Karmann Ghia, the balanced and blueprinted 1.6 sounds amazing in tunnels.
I hope you have one of those glass-pack VW headers, that were so popular in the 60s-70s...My Ghia only had the 1200cc, 40hp engine, but it sounded quite badass!
That guy was pretty ballsy(stupid) going 80mph on 50+ year old tires. Is he that cheap he couldn't spring for new rubber. Notice the short, quick, no spin through the foothills test drive.
Lovely example and the red suits her very well. The 911 was introduced in Sep. 1964. For at least one year the last of the 356s and the first series of the 911s have been produced side by side actually. Anyway, thank you gentlemen for sharing this one for us to enjoy.
Amazing how all these beautiful stories of 'beautiful' people buying and passing on classic cars to each other over the years until somebody just sticks it away and forgets about it. Almost ALL sports cars are used HARD by the first owner. Same with less maintenance by the second owner etc and by the time you get to the fourth or fifth owner a sports car is trash and has to be completely rebuilt. But apparently not in the US..... !!! LOL. The great majority of sports cars that are put away are put away because they have an issue, they are old and the owner has other priorities. Its then "uncovered" and restored by some enthusiast. I suspect much the same happened for this car. Ground up restoration.
@@Team33Team33 Southern California air is very dry, unless you're right up against the coastline. There may have been some mechanical maintenance needed, but it's likely the body and chassis had minimal rust, if any.
@@winstoncundiff Haha and when Jay called Dusty a stripper I was like c’mon Jay you never heard of Dusty Rhodes? But then we found out it was a different Dusty.
Great car. Nice laid-back owner who knows his car and many details about the history. It's sad when the owner doesn't know the basics about his car. Another great car. Thanks Jay!
Back in 1966 when I was 17 I got to drive a 63 Super 90 for about half an hour. Compared to my 56 Beetle it was like driving a super car. So I had to have one. A few years later I acquired a 1960 356B 'Normal' (60 hp) for $500. I loved that car but had to part with it when I became a broke student again. It would do 103 mph (indicated) flat out and it was so light and nimble...a true pleasure to drive. Fast forward to 2023 and I've just bought a gen 3 MR2 Spyder with a138 hp 1.8 Corolla engine and 6 speed close ratio Celica box. After 53 years I've finally found a car that's as nimble and as much fun as that 356 of so many years ago. In fact, it's actually better.
In 1977 I paid $3900 for a 1960 356B Roadster. 1600 "Normal" (60 DIN hp - the "Super" was 75 DIN hp and the "Super 90" was, you guessed it, 90 DIN hp). The "Roadster" replaced the one-year-only 1959 356A "Convertible D" which succeeded the Speedster. It was Ivory White with a black top and interior. The Roadster is, in my mind, the most beautiful of all the 356's. And the "Twin Grille" 1962, of which only a handful were made, is the "Holy Graille". I stupidly sold it in 1983 for $8500. The beauty of the Convertible D and the Roadster was the slightly higher roof and wind-up windows which made it a lot more "livable" than the Speedster. It was my daily driver all those years!
Just wanted to say thank you very much, I can’t express in words how much I appreciate your work, specially this series of jay’s garage, this is automobile history with true passion.
Thank you for this awesome video! I own a 85‘ SC911 Matching Numbers. White/brown. The only one in that perfect condition and equipment. Everything electrical . I love it and never had a Porsche before 😍 Regards from Germany Frankfurt
I love it when Jay's in test drive mode. With his tilted back a little, I can tell his taking in every sound, smell and feel the car has to offer. Yes I also like hearing about the history of a car. Thanks Jay and Thanks to All Who bring their cars for us to see!
Dear nichnicu. Exactly! 2) After I watched the last video with Jay Leno (about the ongoing restorations), I became concerned about the health of this great guy. He often left away the endings of words. Hope everything is alright and I wish him all the best and especially health. Best regards, luck and health in particular.
1963 Porsche 356 SC a beautiful piece of rolling automotive art. A bygone era in automotive design and history for Porsche. Porsche, There is no substitute.
Jay you are a brave man driving this car on those old tires. I wouldn't do it. I can't believe he was doing 80 on these. That's just crazy! I now know why this is so short of a test drive.
Yikes! I don’t want to drive on 15-year old tires. Early this year I realized I’d never changed the spare on my 2001 BMW Z3. 22 years was much to old for me to have confidence.
This is probably my favourite car that’s ever been on Jays show (yes, EVER) !!! I love it, would ideally like it in black but given that I’ll ever even get a sniff of owning one, red will do 😂. I just love this, I just love Porsche in general. I’ve been inspired to put a Euro Millions ticket on this week 🤞
What a beautiful 63. At 16 my father bought a 356 Cabriolet for us and still today my memories of that car were it's the most fun car I've ever driven especially on back winding roads. Thanks for bringing back such wonderful memories with this 1963 bit more powerful version so close to ours!! I'm saving this one!
That’s a fact. If you follow the oem owner’s manual service routines and intervals with porsche and VW they will last basically forever because it is constantly being renewed.
Yeah, including maintenance like new tires. I have to assume all the bushings, seals, and other rubber are "original" too, so he can claim a totally original car. That's not a maintained car then, that's just garage art.
Very nice near-original classic. The best kind. Haven't heard the name Otto Zipper for a very long time. He died rather young as I remember it. I bought a new 1971 BWM 2800CS from him, but shortly after moved to the Bay Area so never returned to him for service. Put 120K miles on it. Like most German cars, max cruise speed was at redline.
Bought a 1961 VW Beetle back 1972 that had a Bosch gasoline heater. I remember it had a ignition coil, fuel pump and spark plug. When you turned it on it would it make a small bang but you had instant heat which was great in the midwest with cold snowy winters.
Back in the 70s I had one of these with a Beetle engine converted to 12 volt. Sadly l drove it too fast and totaled it. Fun car to drive. Saw the 1st Star Wars film and driving that after gave me a thrill. ❤❤❤
While going to Palmer College in1973, a lady class mate from New York had a 356 and complained she couldn't stay warm in the winter. After looking under the layers of floor mats it seems there was not much of the original steel floors left. Some galvanized sheet metal and some roofing tar got her through her last 2 years in Iowa. The only original 356 I ever drove. I would settle on a Beck 356 speedster now.
On a car that's got the collition protection properties of a sardine tin. On a busy motorway. Suddenly, your front tyre goes bang, and you inadvertently swerve right in front of that 40 ton articulated lorry in the lane next to you... No, I can't see anything wrong with that, except for just about everything, so he should be good...
for the money he most likely spent on the car (and will be putting it up for sale) - not sure why he didn't install new tires! He'll get the money back - and then some.
Jay's Mercedes tire blowout reminds me when I was going up a mountain in West Virginia in my 66 Mercedes 250se Cabrio and the tire went "BAM" and I put on the spare and 20 minutes later the spare goes "BAM" What a day.
These cars are almost priceless! We had a 58 fast back . When we were going around corners , we thought we were sure to die , but nothing would happen!
….That brings me to the 7th owner. A fellow named Michael, but who went by Mike because his father was also Michael and his mother didn’t want them to be confused and also didn’t want to always be asking “Big Michael or Little Michael?” Funny story about that, his best friend also went by Mike so he still didn’t escape confusion. His wife’s name was Emily and HER father was Michael as well…
Very thankful of these guys that have original, unrestored vehicles. This one is just beautiful. Always gets me when they have an immaculate looking vehicle that's a mess under the hood. Status symbol. Shame the guy's just flippin' it, who knows how the next owner will treat it. I used to work with a jerk that had European cars, mostly Porsches. He trashed every one he had, and would just buy another.
It is a time bomb. Wouldn't be all that bad if all he did was drive it slowly on a quiet backroad every now and then, but this guy took it out on a busy motorway and cruised at a steady 130 km/h. That's inexcusable behaviour. For blindingly obvious reasons.
Sometime around 1973 I bought a 1960 356B for $900.00, It was my daily driver for a year before I traded it and $3000.00 for 1970 911 S. That car was rough but I drove it daily until 1976. I traded it in for a new Jeep. Of both of those Porsches, I wish I had kept the 356. It was easy to work on and to maintain.
"Max Factor is a line of cosmetics from Coty, Inc. It was founded in 1909 as Max Factor & Company by Maksymilian Faktorowicz." . Max started doing greasepaint for movies ie Ben Hur Maybe Ted was related ?
I remember being at the Ventura Porsche Swap meet. I think it was 2005. Some guy tried to sell my a white 60's 356 like that. He told me he needed to sell since he has a newborn baby. He wanted $20,000. I think that is what they went for then.
This looks to be the exact same engine in my 1968 Right Hand Drive Porsche 912 in the UK. I too made the conversion to twin 40 IDF Webbers that came off an Alfa Romeo Alfasud, where I had to modify the intake manifold to make them fit. I too have the original Solex carbs in storage. What's missing here in the detail. I suspect this car runs or ran originally, a dynamo and will have a regulator. This is how my 912 is. Disk brakes all round not servo assisted and dynamo powered electrics. Wonderful.
that's exactly what I was thinking by the way Jay was speaking and the owner was talking. The next owner of this car will be Jay Leno. And he will put new tires on it right away ha ha ha
I started watching this show about a year ago, and am now a Leno addict. I even bought myself a denim western shirt. Recently I visited the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Museum after learning about these wonderful cars from Jay. He is a real expert and a great guy. Thank you.
As a child I lived in a rental house in the Bronx where a big rig driver rented the garage for his red 356SC He kept it in meticulous condition and would load in a trailer one way and drive back to NY in it, or drive to other jobs around the country. It had hundreds of thousands of miles on it in a few years. He also showed me a pile of speeding tickets from all across the US. (Pre computer info exchange era good times). Even as a 10 year old, the unusual sleek beauty of that body entranced me and the ride he gave me blew my mind. And here I am Jay, still smiling at the sound of one, 60 odd years later.
I graduated high school in 1959 and later saved my few bucks, looking to find one I could afford. Then i was given a new job with the US Army which paid enough to buy beer.
I drove a early 70's bug from San Antonio Texas to Houston on interstate 10 with the gas pedal on the floor and never let up the whole way, it over 150 miles. I was going to school for VW in San Antonio and lived near Galveston...
The fourth owner was Dave, a promising High School athlete who held the county 400m hurdles record for a number of years. He trained to become an accountant and held down a position of some responsibility in the office of a medium-sized engineering company but he never forgot his love of sporting competition. He liked jazz, but not the modern stuff. Dizzie, Louis, Basie - the classics. At age twenty-four became a vegetarian - although he occasionally eats line-caught fish, none of the farmed stuff. In later years...
I came to the comments looking for funny stuff like this!
Nicely done.
Hahaha! Brilliant.
Well done!!!
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Lol
What a gorgeous car. 60 years old is unbelievable. Sounds fantastic too.
That's not a car, that's a masterpiece, I really can't wait to have enough to afford such a beautiful piece.
I'll have to be financially stable in every sense before purchasing my first supercar. The best thing to do with your money is to invest rightly till then
The best advice that i learned from Manny Koshbin is don't buy a Super or luxury vintage car until you have 10 times the price of it in your Bank account, when you purchase a Super car you add a car to your garage but u add also maintenance and unexpected damages that can happen in future
I understand Manny advice but that's overkill. If most people did that - they would never own one. The 10-15% rule is enough - especially if you make even more with multiple streams of income. My investment properties pay for my exotics cars. It's many different things you can do to afford easily and responsibly. You don't need a million cash to afford a cheap 100k car, My first exotic was 100k put down 20k- financed 80k. Then traded up to more expensive cars.
Now I have an Aventador, so it's not hard at all, Especially if you are making 20-25k plus a month with little to no debt with multiple streams and assets that produce income.
If you have that much money sitting in your bank account, that means that you are not investing your money properly. Money sitting in the bank doesn't really do anything for you because interest rates are so slow. It's better to have $1 million in a place where it can make you 5% on returns rather than having that $1 million sitting in your bank account making you 0.5% returns.
My friend and engine builder, Dave Tatum, used to race the 356 for the Porsche racing team in Germany around 1963 . He had some great stories of those days.
Dave passed away last year, at 85.
Rest in peace to your friend Dave sir.
I bet he did well in france ;)
Alive and well in your heart
Oh the stories he had, is there a You Tube channel about him?
@@jeffclark2725I haven't found anything on Dave on TH-cam, but his last several years was spent as a Flathead Guru , so Im sure some of the engines he built are in cars featured here.
I don't think he was well known outside the racing community, but he knew some of the greats like Shelby, Miles, Gurney and Roush. He worked for Kar Kraft on the GT 40 project and was at the track the day Ken Miles died.
He had raced against Miles and said you really had to work to keep up with him.
Dave was one of those guys you talk to that seems to have done it all and you start to wonder if he's full of sh*t...
But then you look at all the pictures on the wall of his Flathead shop and he's there with all the racing greats.
Jay Leno keeps talking about his Carerra like it’s just another option. That 4 cam engine is an impossible monster to maintain and J L is one of very few who could afford to drive it to the next service interval. 356’s are wonderful because plugs points and valve adjustment can be a Saturday morning job with the tools and time it takes to do a beetle. If they only built the 4 cam they’d all be gone and nobody would recognize the car. If they never built it nobody would’ve missed anything except a few high level racers. This SC is a gem.
In high school, my French teacher brought a red '65 SC home from Europe. I was always impressed with the door, hood, and engine cover gaps - simply incredible workmanship.
That's the sign of a gearhead in the making. When I was in high school I was wowed by specs and looks. I would never have thought of looking at panel gaps unless there were light shining through...
But then I never went full gear head and grew up to look at cars like transportation from point A to point B. The most important for this is that they are reliable. Next up is economical, practical, and far far down the line are looks, comfort and performance.
In 1968 I bought a red 1952 356 as my first car ($750). It was the Porsche or a Jag XK120 for the same price. I chose the 356 because it seemed in a bit better condition. Then about a month later the crank broke in half (but it still ran, just a little rough) and it took the rest of the summer to find a replacement from a salvage yard in Texas. I was 18 and working as a mechanic at European Motors in Seattle. It had gray rubber Pirelli Rolle tires that may have been almost as old as the car. Almost no traction but very fun to drive. All oversteer. Loved that car. Wish I had it now. It appears easier to find parts for the vintage Porsche's now than it was then when it was only 16 years old.
Thats probably my favorite aspect of porsche as a company, they still care immensely about their old cars, the support they have for restoration projects, and just maintenance for these things is impressive. Its a nice change from other car companies that completely stop making parts for a five year old car. You can still get an old mercedes 300sl serviced by mercedes for relatively cheap, however you can hardly get parts for a mercedes mclaren SLR. They don’t even make brakes for those things anymore. Everything that isnt shared with another car literally cannot be found. Thats why i will always love porsche
Funny how that worked out, the parts. My 3rd car, maybe, was a 912. I bought it in like December and was up in the mountains driving in snow within weeks. I learned all the quirks of sticking the tail out under throttle. Lord All Mighty what a fun car. Not "fast" but it handled so well... Porsche for life.
Ummm....if the crankshaft broke IN HALF.....it didn't run, trust me
@@imtheonevanhalen1557 Not true. The crank broke across the casting between two bearings so it contued to rotate and the broken parts forced each other to turn. It did make a bit of noise but old air-cooled VW/Porsche engines made a lot of mechanical noise anyway. I drove it around Seattle that way for at least a week before taking it apart. Quite surprised when the crank fell out in two pieces when I split the cases. I was rebuilding two or three engines, mostly Mercedes, every week back then and had never seen a broken crank like that. The replacement crank had apparently been used for drag racing because the locating pins that located the flywheel had been ripped out of the end of the crank so I had to weld up the flywheel end of the crank and remachine it with new holes for the pressed in pins which were in an asymmetrical pattern so the flywheel only fit in one position. Somewhat complicated. And the cylinders were chrome plated aluminum bores sold only as a set with new individually fitted pistons but fortunately were in good enough condition to use as they were. A lot of complexity for not very much power.
European Motors did a ton of work on my '88 535i. Small world! I was always told to avoid "Herman the German" the shop in the U-district with a reputation for not replacing parts that they said they replaced. 😅
Classic 1960's styling. What a beauty! Thanks, Jay!
Jay: "Are these brand new tires?"
Guy: "Nope they are 40 years old"
Jay: *U-turns back to the shop*
"The tread looks good"
Worst car guy opinion 🤦♂️
And it's not like they're even the original tires. They're just really old replacements. There's no added value in keeping them on the car. He really should've put new tires on it a long time ago. I definitely wouldn't be doing 80 on the freeway with those tires.
Jay: "So that's kinda dangerous, right?"
Guy: "I'm the 5th owner."
Jay: "Can't be particularly safe, being 40 years old."
Guy: "All original except the seats."
Jay: "I think we better head back."
Guy: "I keep it in the garage."
Collectors who masquerade as car guys are the worst. "The tread looks good." Jfc.
He wants to sell the car and not spend any money on new tires. The next owner will probably not drive the car anyway. Which is a shame cars should be driven and enjoyed.
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Oddly enough, this guy reminds me of my wife. When I ask a question, I have the pleasure of hearing a long, drawn out, pointless winding without a purpose. The question, ultimately, is never answered or heard of again. Mostly, I just make "statements" now. LOL!
I'd swear looked like Jay visibly aged as the list of previous owners - and those they knew -or might have known - was added to posterity.
That was great to hear the story of the owners and the life that that car had. Really sharp looking car. I think I’m in LOVE ! ❤️
Ever since Need for Speed Porsche Unleashed, I've always wanted a 356 A Speedster. They're were just such beautiful cars.
But of course all the 356s were beautiful.
I met a guy who bought one in the early 70’s for $1500 and had owned it ever since. When I met him a few years ago the car was unrestored and had something like 200k miles on it. Ran great, he drove it all over the place, but it had faded paint, the top was non existent, interior was rough. Beautiful patina of the best kind. It was such an awesome car to me. Just a testament to this man’s love and enjoyment over a lifetime of experiences. I guess I envy that love and experience even more than the car itself, and stories like that are more the norm than the exception with cars like this. I would estimate that even in the poor cosmetic condition the car is still worth $125k-150k in today’s market.
I am right there with you! Although in Europe it was called Need for Speed Porsche 2000
I was 15 when I helped rebuild the engine in a '63 356C, red/black like this little car. It was purchased new by one of Werner Von Braun's launch pad architects. Bob maintained his car meticulously, and I'm sure he had it to the day he passed. How much I contributed to the effort I couldn't gauge. He routinely drove the car from North Alabama to Ontario and back, said it would do 100 mph all day.
I was a young soldier stationed in Germany and wanted a Porsche . My wife thought it was too much money so we bought a brand new 1964 Red Beetle . I still wish I had gone for the Porsche and the one I wanted was Red .
The short answer would’ve been “he was the fifth owner”. 😂
I know, I almost dozed off during that.
I had to fast forward through that. What the hell man!? Editing could have clipped that down to 15 seconds
"The fourth owner? His house burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fifth? That stayed up!"
True. But personally, I always try to find out the history of anything vintage or antique purchased. If I had been a purchaser of a vehicle like this, I would have definitely taken notes about its history! 😁✌️❤️🦋🙏
Sounded like my dad who gives a full autobiography of the previous owner and his wife anytime he talks to someone about his car. I just roll my eyes and laugh at whoever asked
Thank you Mr. Leno for another amazing Car review, only thing missing was a new set a tires! I can’t believe that guy was driving it at 80 miles an hour with 40 year old tires on it🙏🏽
Yes...very irresponsible, and dangerous!...but lots of people are not aware that a person should replace the tires every 8 years, whether they look good, or not.
@@curbozerboomer1773 Depends on the manufacturer; I had a 10 year old barely worn Korean made Hankook tyre blow out due to carcase failure, whereas I've used Japanese made Bridgestone tyres made in the 80's that lacked traction because of hardened rubber but when I cut them in half, the carcases were in perfect condition.
@@curbozerboomer1773 Tires last much longer if they aren't exposed to the sun.
well, speaking of irresponsible… Jay was really pounding that thing for a car with 40-year-old tires and all of discussion about how tires get rotten after 10 years, didn't seem to stop them from driving the thing or from the owner From driving 40 miles at 80 mph. Wow
@@curbozerboomer1773 Mine are 8-9 yrs old less than 100 mi always garaged. I know they need to be replaced before hitting the road.
I worked in a VW & Porsche shop in the early 70's and this was the car to have then. Great to see an unmolested survivor.
Jay forgot the S90 engine option. Available pushrod engines from the factory in the later 356 models were all 1600 cc. The base touring engine was called “Die Damen” ( The Lady) in German and was rated at 60 horsepower DIN (75 SAE). It was fitted with twin Solex twin throat 32 NDIX carburetors. Top speed was 100-105 mph. The next step up was the “Super” 75 horsepower DIN also with twin Solexes. The Super was good for 110-115 mph fitted with an aftermarket exhaust. Above that was the Super 90 ( 90 hp DIN) variant. The top pushrod engine was the SC 105 hp DIN as in our featured car. It was only available for a couple years in the 356 and went on to power the 912. While based on the same basic motor, the higher outputs were obtained by higher compression, hotter camshaft, bigger carburetors, bigger valves and ports, and a higher red line. The Dr Fuhrman designed 4 cam race motor that Jay refers to in his own 356 B was very expensive to buy, build, and maintain. Few were sold to the public. This helps explain why the Carrera variant is so valued by Porsche collectors today. If you intend to actually drive a 356 on the road today, you will want a pushrod motor. As you might expect, the lower the rated power output, the longer the engine will last and stay in tune. As these cars have become very expensive, some owners pull the valuable original engine, put it in protective long term storage, and replace it with a much cheaper but considerably more powerful VW based variant of up to 2200cc displacement. The Porsche transaxle is quite strong, and can handle the big torque and power upgrade if it is in good condition. This strategy preserves the original motor and allows the owner to flog the replacement VW motor without undue concern. It worked for me.
I agree with most of your comment except for a few things. If you do build up a higher output 356 engine, do yourself a favour and spring for a counterbalanced crank, it'll be a much happier and longer lasting engine. If you change the oil every 1000 miles, the engines tend to last for a long long time.
The transmission is reasonably durable until you get to the crown gear carrier, that is the same as an old VW Beetle and it inevitably cracks through the spider gear shaft locking pin hole if it's subjected to much more than 50 horsepower.
In my worthless opinion the 356 is the prettiest car ever to come out of Europe. Especially the pre-A, but they're all gorgeous!
Rubber losing flexibility and cords becoming brittle are far more important than tread depth, but I sure Jay and most of you know that! Few things sound as sweet as a flat four at full song, and even though I only have a Karmann Ghia, the balanced and blueprinted 1.6 sounds amazing in tunnels.
I hope you have one of those glass-pack VW headers, that were so popular in the 60s-70s...My Ghia only had the 1200cc, 40hp engine, but it sounded quite badass!
That guy was pretty ballsy(stupid) going 80mph on 50+ year old tires. Is he that cheap he couldn't spring for new rubber. Notice the short, quick, no spin through the foothills test drive.
My first car was a 1970 KG. I wish I had it now!
Lovely example and the red suits her very well. The 911 was introduced in Sep. 1964. For at least one year the last of the 356s and the first series of the 911s have been produced side by side actually. Anyway, thank you gentlemen for sharing this one for us to enjoy.
Amazing how all these beautiful stories of 'beautiful' people buying and passing on classic cars to each other over the years until somebody just sticks it away and forgets about it.
Almost ALL sports cars are used HARD by the first owner. Same with less maintenance by the second owner etc and by the time you get to the fourth or fifth owner a sports car is trash and has to be completely rebuilt.
But apparently not in the US..... !!! LOL.
The great majority of sports cars that are put away are put away because they have an issue, they are old and the owner has other priorities.
Its then "uncovered" and restored by some enthusiast.
I suspect much the same happened for this car.
Ground up restoration.
@@Team33Team33 Southern California air is very dry, unless you're right up against the coastline. There may have been some mechanical maintenance needed, but it's likely the body and chassis had minimal rust, if any.
Dusty Rhodes???😂 I was thinking of the legendary professional wrestler!
So did I!
In my mind it was spelled Dusty Roads
Here’s a link to Dusty Rhodes.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusty_Rhodes
@@winstoncundiff Haha and when Jay called Dusty a stripper I was like c’mon Jay you never heard of Dusty Rhodes? But then we found out it was a different Dusty.
I don't think Dusty would have fit in to that car.
Great car. Nice laid-back owner who knows his car and many details about the history. It's sad when the owner doesn't know the basics about his car. Another great car. Thanks Jay!
that's not his car. Did you even listen?
@@loxety It is his car. "Caretaker" is what pretentious classic car owners call themselves.
@@boo_ Thank you for the clarification!
The look of the basic steel dash is a good reminder that this is essentially a beetle. Just a very nice one.
"Hey these tires could blow out". "They sure could". Keeps on driving.
Jay Leno is a living Legend.
I agree. This guest/owner is boring .
he seems kind of characterless. Intent on only flipping the car to the next owner. At least Jay enjoyed the drive.
yes I love his car in Gran Turismo PS 2
Back in 1966 when I was 17 I got to drive a 63 Super 90 for about half an hour. Compared to my 56 Beetle it was like driving a super car. So I had to have one. A few years later I acquired a 1960 356B 'Normal' (60 hp) for $500. I loved that car but had to part with it when I became a broke student again. It would do 103 mph (indicated) flat out and it was so light and nimble...a true pleasure to drive. Fast forward to 2023 and I've just bought a gen 3 MR2 Spyder with a138 hp 1.8 Corolla engine and 6 speed close ratio Celica box. After 53 years I've finally found a car that's as nimble and as much fun as that 356 of so many years ago. In fact, it's actually better.
Thanks Jay. Not as lucky as you though, LOL. @official-JayLenosGarage..
In 1977 I paid $3900 for a 1960 356B Roadster. 1600 "Normal" (60 DIN hp - the "Super" was 75 DIN hp and the "Super 90" was, you guessed it, 90 DIN hp). The "Roadster" replaced the one-year-only 1959 356A "Convertible D" which succeeded the Speedster. It was Ivory White with a black top and interior. The Roadster is, in my mind, the most beautiful of all the 356's. And the "Twin Grille" 1962, of which only a handful were made, is the "Holy Graille". I stupidly sold it in 1983 for $8500. The beauty of the Convertible D and the Roadster was the slightly higher roof and wind-up windows which made it a lot more "livable" than the Speedster. It was my daily driver all those years!
Just wanted to say thank you very much, I can’t express in words how much I appreciate your work, specially this series of jay’s garage, this is automobile history with true passion.
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Thank you for this awesome video! I own a 85‘ SC911 Matching Numbers. White/brown. The only one in that perfect condition and equipment. Everything electrical .
I love it and never had a Porsche before 😍 Regards from Germany Frankfurt
That car sounds so good. I can listen to it all day.
I love it when Jay's in test drive mode. With his tilted back a little, I can tell his taking in every sound, smell and feel the car has to offer. Yes I also like hearing about the history of a car. Thanks Jay and Thanks to All Who bring their cars for us to see!
They are so incredibly much fun to drive, these beautiful 356's.
Hi jay. Never watched your late show if I’m honest. But love what you do now, the perfect chap to look after all the beautiful car you have
I bought one of these awesome cars back in 1973 frm SAAB dealership in Lawrence, MA, it was a 1965 1600C and possibly the best car I’ve ever owned.
It doesn’t matter how many times the guy is telling Jay it’s 69K miles,for Jay it’s 75K! 😂😂😂
He’s upping the miles trying to get a better price on it lol.
Dear nichnicu.
Exactly! 2) After I watched the last video with Jay Leno (about the ongoing restorations), I became concerned about the health of this great guy. He often left away the endings of words. Hope everything is alright and I wish him all the best and especially health.
Best regards, luck and health in particular.
Jay has a few miles on the clock as well after all....
Someone rolled the odometer back 6k miles, you can fool Jay.
Don't worry about Jay. The work keep him young. It's the people who just end up sitting in the house that get sick.
What's up with the new editing style? Also the thumbnails are so teeny style now. Please keep up the Gentleman-Style in this series Jay!
1963 Porsche 356 SC a beautiful piece of rolling automotive art. A bygone era in automotive design and history for Porsche.
Porsche, There is no substitute.
Beautiful 356 congratulations - keep driving her
My every day driver, is a 1971 Karmann Ghia….!
I love seeing cars like this , because I feel like we are all on a level playing field…….👍🏻❤️👍🏻
Karmann
@@johnbriggs3916 😄yes I Know...
( speak and spell thinks it is spelled like this...! )
This 356 with the bright red paint looks really nice there on the road. I do like the style ( and sound ) of this one.
Jay you are a brave man driving this car on those old tires. I wouldn't do it. I can't believe he was doing 80 on these. That's just crazy! I now know why this is so short of a test drive.
Yikes! I don’t want to drive on 15-year old tires. Early this year I realized I’d never changed the spare on my 2001 BMW Z3. 22 years was much to old for me to have confidence.
I would have ended the drive even earlier...that dude was rather ignorant, IMO.
The Porsche 356, one of my dream cars. This one is a beauty.
Thanks, Jay, for another awesome installment into automotive history 👏
This is probably my favourite car that’s ever been on Jays show (yes, EVER) !!! I love it, would ideally like it in black but given that I’ll ever even get a sniff of owning one, red will do 😂. I just love this, I just love Porsche in general. I’ve been inspired to put a Euro Millions ticket on this week 🤞
My favorite Porsche model. 👍
What a beautiful 63. At 16 my father bought a 356 Cabriolet for us and still today my memories of that car were it's the most fun car I've ever driven especially on back winding roads. Thanks for bringing back such wonderful memories with this 1963 bit more powerful version so close to ours!! I'm saving this one!
Thanks Jay it is amazing how long a car can last if it is just maintained.
Not all cars.
That’s a fact. If you follow the oem owner’s manual service routines and intervals with porsche and VW they will last basically forever because it is constantly being renewed.
I have two cars that are over 25 years old...but they still look and run great, it is just a matter of doing the maintenance.
Yeah, including maintenance like new tires. I have to assume all the bushings, seals, and other rubber are "original" too, so he can claim a totally original car. That's not a maintained car then, that's just garage art.
Very nice near-original classic. The best kind. Haven't heard the name Otto Zipper for a very long time. He died rather young as I remember it. I bought a new 1971 BWM 2800CS from him, but shortly after moved to the Bay Area so never returned to him for service. Put 120K miles on it. Like most German cars, max cruise speed was at redline.
Died in 1979, aged 64.
Dusty roads, the American dream baby!
Bought a 1961 VW Beetle back 1972 that had a Bosch gasoline heater. I remember it had a ignition coil, fuel pump and spark plug. When you turned it on it would it make a small bang but you had instant heat which was great in the midwest with cold snowy winters.
Back in the 70s I had one of these with a Beetle engine converted to 12 volt. Sadly l drove it too fast and totaled it. Fun car to drive. Saw the 1st Star Wars film and driving that after gave me a thrill. ❤❤❤
thanks for the ride.
Beautiful color. People dont know this was the car before the 911. Has a distinct look. Fabulous sound. Cool man. ❤❤👍😎
yep, there was no such thing as 911, 912, 928, etc. They were just Porsches. 356 was just an internal code more or less.
While going to Palmer College in1973, a lady class mate from New York had a 356 and complained she couldn't stay warm in the winter. After looking under the layers of floor mats it seems there was not much of the original steel floors left. Some galvanized sheet metal and some roofing tar got her through her last 2 years in Iowa. The only original 356 I ever drove. I would settle on a Beck 356 speedster now.
80mph on 40 year old tires? What could go wrong…🤔
On a car that's got the collition protection properties of a sardine tin. On a busy motorway. Suddenly, your front tyre goes bang, and you inadvertently swerve right in front of that 40 ton articulated lorry in the lane next to you...
No, I can't see anything wrong with that, except for just about everything, so he should be good...
for the money he most likely spent on the car (and will be putting it up for sale) - not sure why he didn't install new tires! He'll get the money back - and then some.
My favourite car. I bought a 356sc in the 1960s. My biggest regret has been selling the 356sc.
What a great 356 the ultimate one in my book.These are on my wish list thats for sure.
I just love the sound of the older Porsche engine!
Jay's Mercedes tire blowout reminds me when I was going up a mountain in West Virginia in my 66 Mercedes 250se Cabrio and the tire went "BAM" and I put on the spare and 20 minutes later the spare goes "BAM" What a day.
These cars are almost priceless! We had a 58 fast back . When we were going around corners , we thought we were sure to die , but nothing would happen!
A local doctor in upstate ny has one just like this! I love these classic porsches😊
That's a nice one! 😎😎😎
I love this car so much, it's one of my all time dream car. beautiful example.
Great video. I fell in love with these cars when I was 6 years old from playing Need for Speed Porsche. The 356A and 356B are some of my dream cars.
….That brings me to the 7th owner. A fellow named Michael, but who went by Mike because his father was also Michael and his mother didn’t want them to be confused and also didn’t want to always be asking “Big Michael or Little Michael?” Funny story about that, his best friend also went by Mike so he still didn’t escape confusion. His wife’s name was Emily and HER father was Michael as well…
Very thankful of these guys that have original, unrestored vehicles. This one is just beautiful.
Always gets me when they have an immaculate looking vehicle that's a mess under the hood. Status symbol. Shame the guy's just flippin' it, who knows how the next owner will treat it. I used to work with a jerk that had European cars, mostly Porsches. He trashed every one he had, and would just buy another.
These guys with old cars are kind of CRAZY. Driving on 40 year old tires just seems like driving a time bomb.
It is a time bomb. Wouldn't be all that bad if all he did was drive it slowly on a quiet backroad every now and then, but this guy took it out on a busy motorway and cruised at a steady 130 km/h. That's inexcusable behaviour. For blindingly obvious reasons.
1:21 Richard, 'owned the car for 50 years'.. Jay, 'was he the original owner?' the car is 60 years old.. 😁
That's a fabulous soundtrack for a four cylinder.
Jay's automobile knowledge always stuns me. I wish we could down load it for posterity.
He uploads it every week!
Sometime around 1973 I bought a 1960 356B for $900.00, It was my daily driver for a year before I traded it and $3000.00 for 1970 911 S. That car was rough but I drove it daily until 1976. I traded it in for a new Jeep. Of both of those Porsches, I wish I had kept the 356. It was easy to work on and to maintain.
Now your first car is $300.000,00
What a beautiful car! If I had that kind of money and the knowledge to work on it, I’d put down an offer immediately.
One of the All Time Great automobiles. Without this car, we would not know what much of the sports car tree's branches would have been like.
got the same dealer installed Sapphire ll (am/fm 6V ) radio as my '64 C coupe built in Oct 1963!
Thanks, one of the most iconic and beautiful cars ever build
"Max Factor is a line of cosmetics from Coty, Inc. It was founded in 1909 as Max Factor & Company by Maksymilian Faktorowicz."
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Max started doing greasepaint for movies ie Ben Hur
Maybe Ted was related ?
This car longs to go home in Europe where i will cherish it for the rest of its life. 😄
I remember being at the Ventura Porsche Swap meet. I think it was 2005. Some guy tried to sell my a white 60's 356 like that. He told me he needed to sell since he has a newborn baby. He wanted $20,000. I think that is what they went for then.
This looks to be the exact same engine in my 1968 Right Hand Drive Porsche 912 in the UK. I too made the conversion to twin 40 IDF Webbers that came off an Alfa Romeo Alfasud, where I had to modify the intake manifold to make them fit. I too have the original Solex carbs in storage. What's missing here in the detail. I suspect this car runs or ran originally, a dynamo and will have a regulator. This is how my 912 is. Disk brakes all round not servo assisted and dynamo powered electrics. Wonderful.
Similar, both Type 616 based, however the 912 version revs 1000 rpm higher, to 6200 stock
Thank you for the up-date, this I did not know.@@rickbecker6776
That's a beauty classic car... congrats!
Enjoyed the clip. Nice car, seems like fun to drive. I owned a 78 Targa and a 80 911 SC.
Jay is definitely buying this car!!
that's exactly what I was thinking by the way Jay was speaking and the owner was talking. The next owner of this car will be Jay Leno. And he will put new tires on it right away ha ha ha
Old Porsches never die!
Sure they do, just like all cars
9/11 Never Forget...
Hey Jay, have you ever thought of doing a willy's jeep rat rod?
Or for the power hungry, a 4x4 humvee rat rod...😁
I have this exact car in a 1:24 scale and would love to own this. But I’m a minimalist too with only 2 cars. 😁
Nothing better than an original survivor; great car! Love the 356! Thanks, Jay and crew!✌️❤️😄🇨🇦
Another great Porsche video, Jay !!!
Wow. What a beauty. Love the colour. A winners colour. Thanks Jay
I started watching this show about a year ago, and am now a Leno addict. I even bought myself a denim western shirt. Recently I visited the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Museum after learning about these wonderful cars from Jay. He is a real expert and a great guy. Thank you.
As a child I lived in a rental house in the Bronx where a big rig driver rented the garage for his red 356SC He kept it in meticulous condition and would load in a trailer one way and drive back to NY in it, or drive to other jobs around the country. It had hundreds of thousands of miles on it in a few years. He also showed me a pile of speeding tickets from all across the US. (Pre computer info exchange era good times). Even as a 10 year old, the unusual sleek beauty of that body entranced me and the ride he gave me blew my mind. And here I am Jay, still smiling at the sound of one, 60 odd years later.
What a beautiful car.
I graduated high school in 1959 and later saved my few bucks, looking to find one I could afford. Then i was given a new job with the US Army which paid enough to buy beer.
I'm forever forgetting about my Porsches too. Geez..
Would like to see you do a video on your 4 cam. The 4 cam engine is a very interesting design.
Nice!
The greatest of all time Jim Clark drove a 356A in his early days🏁
Sean Connery drove a 356 as well
Jim Clark also drove a DKW too in those early days!
Yeah, me too! 😂 I was just going to write that this reminds me of growing up! Lol - and you said it!
" 8:19 Hit me, kick me, shoot me, stab me - just don't ******* bore me!"
Gunny Highway
When he said Dusty Rhodes ... I assumed it was the American Dream. Hard times 💪🏽
I drove a early 70's bug from San Antonio Texas to Houston on interstate 10 with the gas pedal on the floor and never let up the whole way, it over 150 miles. I was going to school for VW in San Antonio and lived near Galveston...