Wankel Engine: NSU Spider - Jay Leno's Garage

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  • @captaccordion
    @captaccordion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +618

    This is Jay Leno's Garage at it's best. An interesting and unmodified old car, and a bit of a history lesson. Also, the absence of another person keeps the focus on the car, and Jay doesn't feel the need to recycle all his anecdotes to a new guest!

    • @KelikakuCoutin
      @KelikakuCoutin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      'Its' is a pronoun and "it's" is a contraction, actually the two words "it"+"is." When we add an apostrophe, we're implying that there are the two words "it" and "is."
      So your sentence "This is Jay Leno's Garage at it's best" would translate out to "This is Jay Leno's Garage at IT IS best." Which I'm certain you did not intend for it to say. In the future it may profit you to use the personal pronoun "ITS" instead of the contraction "IT'S."
      Hope this helped.

    • @malcolmjcullen
      @malcolmjcullen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      OK, who installed Clippy into TH-cam?

    • @JoeR203
      @JoeR203 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@KelikakuCoutin Wow! You must have a seizure when you see people misuse "There", "They're" and "Their".

    • @bucko1001
      @bucko1001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Autocorrect strikes again 😊

    • @jamesdellaneve9005
      @jamesdellaneve9005 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Agreed. The USs auto docent.

  • @chuckfinley3542
    @chuckfinley3542 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    Jay’s NSU is just as exciting as some unobtainable 1200 hp monstrosity.

    • @bigduphusaj162
      @bigduphusaj162 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      all production cars over 1000bhp are peaky as F@#£ The Bugatti might be an exception but its a lazy engine that w16.

  • @btolley100
    @btolley100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

    I like it when Jay does his own cars. Best thing about COVID was Jay doing his own cars and filming it himself.

    • @Mo-mc3mw
      @Mo-mc3mw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I still despise him for the whole tonightshow-debacle

    • @chadchadchadchadchad
      @chadchadchadchadchad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There were a ton of great things about COVID, but you're right, those episodes were the best.

    • @chadchadchadchadchad
      @chadchadchadchadchad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Mo-mc3mwDang. Hopefully he doesn't read your comment. He may burn his car collection to the ground when he finds out you're still pissed about that Tonight Show debacle.

    • @danielt.8573
      @danielt.8573 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mo-mc3mw It was NBC's fault, not his. Conan overreacted based on bad assumptions and people went along with it.

  • @donmoore481
    @donmoore481 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    I have not seen one of these in years. In 79 - 82 I was stationed in Germany and had a 50 Km commute daily, half of which was on the autobahn, the other half through the Tanus mountains. I picked up a 1970 NSU Prinz 100 TT, which was a blast to drive, 1000 cc air cooled, 2 doors, and raced by a few local NSU clubs. It looked like a shrunken early Chevy Corvair. You could unbolt the engine and bring it downstairs to the basement and work on it. We would race the NSU Spiders, and could hold our own most of the time. The Spider handled the twists better, but the 100 TT had lots more power. A friend had a NSU RO Wankel which could easily eat our lunch on the autobahn, but we ruled the mountains. We took a trip to Neckarsucm to visit the old NSU factory and toured their assembly line and museum. By then Audi had taken over the brand.

    • @AmericasChoice
      @AmericasChoice 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Good years to be in Germany.

    • @dannyhilarious
      @dannyhilarious 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds you made the best during your duty time. Congrats!

    • @philipbanks6542
      @philipbanks6542 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In the 80s I always thought Mazda developed the rotary engine with the rx 7 I never knew until watching this video thanks

    • @stijnbrowaeys8328
      @stijnbrowaeys8328 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤩 nice story ! I think that the tt is a 1200cc not a 1000 cc 😁

  • @seanhoward8025
    @seanhoward8025 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    Jay, the AMC Pacer was designed to have the GM Wankel installed in it, which would’ve greatly improved the power-to-weight ratio. I believe the Mercedes you eluded to was the C111. And I remember as a kid, reading in MT or C&D or R&T around 1975, GM actually was considering making a Wankel-powered Corvette, long before Mazda’s RX-7.

    • @Charlesb88
      @Charlesb88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      AMC had designed the Pacer originally to accept a Wankel engine that would be designed by Curtis-Wright but then later decide to go with a upcoming Wankel engine that GM was planning to use in some of their own upcoming car designs. Unfortunately, GM canceled their Wankel project in ‘74 for various reasons including durability, tooling costs, and gas millage issues (the fuel crisis was in full swing at the time). This forced AMC, who had already put way to much money into the Pacer project to back out, to hastily redesign the Pacer to use their own straight-six engine which was dinged by car reviewers of the Pacer at the time of it’s introduction.

    • @snowrocket
      @snowrocket 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      There was a show car Corvette around 1973 that was a four rotor Wankel mid-engine car. So WAAAY before the Corvette became a mid-engine car just a few years ago, Chevrolet was considering it in the 1970s.

    • @fishhuntadventure
      @fishhuntadventure 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Charlesb88
      Dinged?
      The 258 is a fantastic motor with plenty of horsepower

    • @Charlesb88
      @Charlesb88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@fishhuntadventure That engine wasn't dinged for it power output but rather it's low gas milage at a time when the fuel crisis was in full swing

    • @panamafloyd1469
      @panamafloyd1469 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      From my '70s chlidhood memories, I could swear that the original GM H-body (Vega/Astre/Monza/Sunbird/Starfire/Skyhawk) was designed by engineers who also expected the GM rotary to show up as well. I actually owned a Sunbird for half a minute in high school, had the Buick 231 in it. As an import guy - loved that Jay mentioned that Mazda originally advertised the rotary as a NVH solution. In SCCA, we had a joke about those ads. "The little piston engine goes boing-boing-boing..but the Mazda rotary goes AAAAAAAHH!"
      I still think the reason my left ear is better than my right was that I was on a corner, and assigned to blue flag, when an RX-3 lost its muffler on a downshift (flame blast like a turbo on a bridge-port). We all bent over in pain, and the tower (Road Atlanta T1, the tower can see it from there) called to see if we were all OK.

  • @BoostedAutoSpecs
    @BoostedAutoSpecs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Love watching Jay Leno showing all these goodies...

  • @AndréFournier-k1w
    @AndréFournier-k1w 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    This is why I love “Jay Leno’s Garage”. So much GREAT information about odd modes of transportation and the restoration blog. New Super cars are interesting but the old ones take this channel over the top. Keep them coming!!

  • @docr59
    @docr59 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    My grandfather was the head of NSU when this Spider and the Ro 80 were developed and built. My aunt had the hand-built pre-production model, a gorgeous azure-blue car with wooden steering wheel, which she took me into the Italian alps with. Great memories!

    • @tulliogarzetti1806
      @tulliogarzetti1806 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      RO 80 è stata una delle più belle auto mai progettate!

    • @dalewier9735
      @dalewier9735 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What a great memory thank you

    • @stijnbrowaeys8328
      @stijnbrowaeys8328 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you have a nsu ?

  • @roelsiebrand7181
    @roelsiebrand7181 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Terrific car. I recently had a ride with a NSU Ro80 which is also rotary powered and it's only a three speed but you really don't notice that. The ride I had, the guy who drove it didn't get out of second gear. It's an extraordinary vehicle.

  • @lilredcummins
    @lilredcummins 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +194

    Jay, I am so happy that you drive these old cars. Many people keep them as museum pieces which is ok, but they are cars, which means they were meant to be driven. Still driving my Model T and it is 100 years old now! Keep up the good work!

    • @bobjohnson205
      @bobjohnson205 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I know exactly what you mean. I'm still driving my Volvo and it's over 30 years old! It SHOULD be in a museum! lol

    • @angelperez7891
      @angelperez7891 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is your Ford T a 1923 season model?

    • @lilredcummins
      @lilredcummins 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it is a 1923 Touring model@@angelperez7891

    • @DivineVegan
      @DivineVegan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@angelperez7891yes 1883

    • @MrWolfSnack
      @MrWolfSnack 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Leaving a car sit untouched will do the car more harm than saving it. They HAVE to be driven. Find an abandoned racetrack or get into a track day event and just run a couple laps every week.

  • @cjtr83
    @cjtr83 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    What a fantastic little car. Jay, Thank you for sharing everything you do. You're an incredible custodian and educator in the automotive world. You keeping these old vehicles running so they can be seen, appreciated and enjoyed for many generations to come is hugely admirable. Your efforts in making these videos i believe is your finest work. A true natural passion. Thank you 🙏🏻

    • @ronaldgreen5292
      @ronaldgreen5292 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes! He's the greatest!!!💯💯✌️✌️👍👍👍

    • @reasonablespeculation3893
      @reasonablespeculation3893 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Looks like it was pulled of the tracks of a 1960s amusement park ride
      ..... then, to everyone's amazement, it's driven down the road, with the real cars

  • @dwayneclemans8853
    @dwayneclemans8853 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Great episode, It’s amazing how small the car looks when Jay is standing next to it.

  • @74Husky
    @74Husky 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    WOW Jay - that certainly brought back memories for me. One of my high school teachers had this exact same car! Even in that same color. This teacher was over 6 foot tall and it was always interesting watching him slide into it. I always thought it was a great looking car.
    You reminded me of the unique sound it had when it 1st started up. Yes, it did sound a bit like an outboard motor. Being taken for a ride, I was impressed how smooth it rode and accelerated. Being so low to the ground and small, I am sure it felt a lot faster then we were actually travelling.
    Little did I know years later one of my University roomates would have a brand new NSU 1200 TT. That was a great car, really rare in Boston. I have always loved unusual vehicles.
    Jay you neglected to mention that NSU made a lot of motorcycles.

    • @geoffreymonk2843
      @geoffreymonk2843 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And that 1200 engine was used in munch mammoth motorcycle

  • @6rimR3ap3r
    @6rimR3ap3r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My dad learned car mechanic as an apprentice here in Germany, with some courses by NSU in the late 60s, early 70s when the Wankels were around. His first own cars were two NSU Prinz 4, one after the other.

  • @NeueKlasseGuy
    @NeueKlasseGuy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    My Dad was a dealer for NSU and I got to spend a lot of seat time in one of these. Great little car!

    • @Jason.cbr1000rr
      @Jason.cbr1000rr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You like bmws?? Me too! They're really the "ultimate driving machine" what model do you drive and like? 🙂

    • @Gr8Layks
      @Gr8Layks 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In which city was your father’s dealership?

    • @NeueKlasseGuy
      @NeueKlasseGuy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Gr8Layks Wayzata, MN

  • @bustinbass78
    @bustinbass78 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hope one day whenever Jay's cars are on public display, these videos will also be viewable with each car

  • @carolynhotchkiss4760
    @carolynhotchkiss4760 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I remember back in the 70s my father had a fleeting interest in getting a car with a Wankel engine (not sure if it was a Mazda, probably was). The dealership had these little plastic models of the engine rotary system that they gave out, about the size of a coaster. That's what you needed, Jay, to demonstrate with! Much lighter than the actual assembly, lol! (I used to play with it for hours, turning it around and around, I was easily amused.)

  • @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
    @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Down here in Australia, (where everything is upside down and hamburgers eat people) exists a rotary engine subculture that's been front and centre of the custom car and racing scenes for decades... We have some of the best rotary builders in the world down here, such as: PAC Performance, RaceOnly and Rotor Master; but to name a few.
    I'm not sure if we have a higher percentage of "elite level" custom cars being powered by Wankels or not (someone should really do a PhD on the Aussie car culture 🤔) or not. But it definitely seems as though, as with many things that evolve on this vast island, the local bred builds pack a little extra venom and a lot of extra attitude.
    The rotary boys tend to make up for their lack of size in the top trumps game, by brawling with the big V8s... Best described as extreme violence when challenged, and a willingness to push that extra few hundred RPM or that last handful of metres before the braking zones.
    Whenever I see a big power rotary step up at a PowerCruise, or assorted racing event, I always have a "oh yeah, I forgot how wild those little things are" moment before wondering why I've never had one in my life.
    May have to look into rectifying that in the not too distant future. Hmmmmm. 🤔

  • @heroesofthelandstrasse
    @heroesofthelandstrasse 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    A friend of mine has three of them. One with two rotor, one with Prinz engine and one in parts. I testdrove the two rotor one with 130 hp. Nice ride with great Power to weight ratio and more spacious than I thought. It was also upgraded with Miata seats.

  • @jims6323
    @jims6323 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool beans! My friends dad had one back in the 70's. He worked in the engine test cell at NASA's Lewis research center, Cleveland, Oh. On his garage wall was a 8x10 picture of a Curtiss Wright aviation Wankel with the exhaust manifolds cherry red, being wrung out on the dyno. These engines ran like a "raped ape".

  • @ulrichskaarsgard7848
    @ulrichskaarsgard7848 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    NSU was the predecessor to AUDI. They and DKW had incredible engineering for their time. I have a NSU Quickly moped from the 1950's that still gets 100+ MPG!

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow

    • @johnbriggs3916
      @johnbriggs3916 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Not really. It would be more accurate to say that Auto Union was the predecessor. Volkswagen merged Auto Union with NSU to form the present Audi. (Audi had been one of the four companies in Auto Union.)

    • @ulrichskaarsgard7848
      @ulrichskaarsgard7848 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@johnbriggs3916
      Yes, and I should have said NSU was ONE OF THE predecessors to AUDI....

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NSU Motorenwerke GmbH. went completely bankrupt because of the Wankel engine and was acquired by Volkswagen who merged NSU with Audi.
      Audi still occupys several former NSU sites.

    • @henrydegan6204
      @henrydegan6204 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's more than that. NSU had 2 cars when they got bankrupt. One was the RO80 which was first sold as Audi RO80 but soon was discontinued. The shape and style of the RO80 though lives on in all modern Audi.
      The second car was called K70 and that was not yet on the market. The K70 was taken by Volkswagen and sold as VW K70, the first ever modern VW, first inline 4, first front engine, first front driven and first watercooled VW.
      VW would still build air-cooled boxer rearmounted cars if not for NSU.

  • @bryand4826
    @bryand4826 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember reading about the NSU Sport Spider in an old Popular Mechanics magazine. It's a treat to get to see one in action.

  • @FallGuyManiac
    @FallGuyManiac 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Jay Leno- worth millions, sees used spark plug on eBay for $80, says “no thanks, I’ll look elsewhere.” Classic Jay- being frugal even when he doesn’t need to be! 😂

  • @jackbilger6858
    @jackbilger6858 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ~30 years ago, I had a Johnson Phantom snowmobile with the rotary engine and that surface gap spark plug. It took a lot of time and diag to get it running. We didn't have much snow that year, so we only got to ride it twice but wow did it ever have power -- 35 HP by my research

  • @theclocker7406
    @theclocker7406 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The NSU Spider is an absolutely fabulous car, that most people have never heard of, so thanks for posting a great video about it! I'm a huge fan of all Wankel engined cars, and I love NSU's. Used to own an NSU 1000C, another great little german car, and belonged to the club. I've only ever seen two of the Spiders in the flesh, but was lucky enough to get a ride out in an NSU RO80, which is an fantastic car, years ahead of its time as the engine is so smooth - truly glorious. You should definitely get one!

    • @UberLummox
      @UberLummox 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is this not called a Prince Spyder? Or is it just based on the Prince?

    • @theclocker7406
      @theclocker7406 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I understand your confusion with this. The NSU Spider is the car featured in Jay's video. This was a cabriolet model, which was fitted with the awesome little single rotor Wankel engine. The NSU Sport Prince was a coupe only version of the same car, but unlike the Spider, it was only ever fitted with the 598cc twin cylinder air-cooled engine (also fitted to the NSU Prince - a saloon model). I hope that helps to answer your question.

    • @UberLummox
      @UberLummox 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@theclocker7406 Yes, thank you!

  • @spechti2045
    @spechti2045 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its just great to watch this channel for so long. i have been watching since 2014. nothing changed. just a good time

  • @chartreux1532
    @chartreux1532 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    My Grandfather here in Germany had exactly one of those, even in the same Colour! Sadly he sold it a long time ago in the early 90s.
    Either way, thanks for reminding me of this Jay and as a German i'm always happy when i see any NSU Car being taken care of and driven in the USA.
    In Germany that's not too uncommon to see, especially with all the NSU Car Meetings and Touring Events but i bet it's a rather rare sight in the USA, especially in such a great Condition!
    Thanks for sharing this one with us, Jay!
    Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps

    • @Fastvoice
      @Fastvoice 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The (stock) ticker symbole for Audi in Germany is still NSU. 😉

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's interesting. I follow a German channel that restores modern BMWs, called M539 Restorations, and he didn't even know what an NSU is. But I know what they are and have known for a long time, and I'm in the US and have never even seen one in person!

    • @tiki_trash
      @tiki_trash 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you know who designed the body? I think it's a good looking car.

    • @JoeC88
      @JoeC88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the information, cheers from down under 🦘

    • @Fastvoice
      @Fastvoice 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@tiki_trash It's mentioned in the video: Bertone. It derivated from the former model NSU Sport Prinz Coupé - also styled by Bertone.

  • @motorradmike
    @motorradmike 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These were called surface gap plugs and were commonly used on two strike outboard marine engines.

  • @burchardisbasement2671
    @burchardisbasement2671 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So much more interesting with these smaller cars, than with 600 hp. multi million dollar builds. Thank you so much for y’et another great video.

  • @Imnotplayinganymore
    @Imnotplayinganymore 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the reason Jay keeps going back to the aquatic theme is because it sounds for all the world like a little 1950's outboard.

  • @bennyhannover9361
    @bennyhannover9361 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Design is from Bertone. Sergio Sartorelli sketched it. It is a Cabrio version based on the Sport Prinz . A Little 600 cc 2 cylinder 30 bhp vehicle produced between 1959 and 1967

    • @stevenluftman1971
      @stevenluftman1971 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m pretty sure Franco Scaglione designed it at Bertone. Sarorelli was working at Ghia at the time.

  • @uweziegenbein3114
    @uweziegenbein3114 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dear Jay, thanks for taking us with you on the small journey in these
    spectacularly engineered small car!
    Greetings from Germany

  • @CasperthefriendlyG10T
    @CasperthefriendlyG10T 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The Geo Metro came with 55 horsepower, but it was 1750lbs. So you should be able to kick Metro butt in a race. Nice car Jay

    • @HolbrookStark
      @HolbrookStark 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Metro had a sexy power curve reaching that 55hp tho believe it or not
      Plus you could get a 5 speed metro
      I think it would be a good fair race 🙏

  • @melvinburwell8202
    @melvinburwell8202 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is what I like Jay. You. Your garage.And your cars. Those other guests. OK sometimes. Meh. Cool little car. Piece of history. 🤑💙👍😎

  • @aaronlopez492
    @aaronlopez492 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As i hear the tiny NSU Wenkel engine it reminds of the children's song and story of the The little red engine that said " I think, i think I know can". Great one Jay Thank you.

  • @ToothyFilms
    @ToothyFilms 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first car was a Mazda 73 Rx3 with the Wankel/rotary. It was yellow and a friend nicknamed it the Screaming Canary due to the sound it made getting up to speed. It had almost no torque...but with no redline once going it could keep up w/the Porsches on the highway. Sadly it died when coolant started going into the engine.

  • @MrMezmerize
    @MrMezmerize 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Gotta love NSU. I picked up a 200cc NSU Lux bike right there in Neckarsulm a cpl weeks back and what shall I say, it still runs like a charm 70yrs after it was produced. Really fine engineering

  • @HoboHeaven
    @HoboHeaven 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw NSU sometimes here in Germany and Oldtimer Meetings. And we are not all wearing Lederhosen!

  • @scottimusgarrett15
    @scottimusgarrett15 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    What a wonderful little car! I miss the days when a manufacturer could make a light small runabout and not have to worry about all the regulations and packaging of electronics, etc. Cars are big and heavy now just to fit all that crap in! Thanks, Jay and Crew, for another great episode! I love it when Jay shows off a piece of his collection!✌️❤️🙂🇨🇦

  • @johnkimbrell2378
    @johnkimbrell2378 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for bringing us these unique cars, I had an RX seven it was a great car smoothest engine I’ve ever had. But you’re right I didn’t get good gas mileage especially if you keep your foot it.

  • @mattpierce5009
    @mattpierce5009 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I like the oddball cars too, definitely ones with interesting engines and backstories. Thanks for preserving these funky gems Jay, not just by caring for them in your garage but also showing them to the world and educating us about their history.

  • @Erwinhooi
    @Erwinhooi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Mazda wankel just injects extra oil into the engine like a dual stroke to extend the life of the engine, but this is the original. Beautiful car, sleek design!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @hammer-r
    @hammer-r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The RO80 was a beautiful car, styling ahead of its time. But yea the engine would only last about 60,000 miles before a replacement was installed by the dealer under warranty. I saw them in Germany when I was a kid, decades ago. My last visit to Germany a couple years ago, I did see a RO80 so they are still around. But very rare. Tks Jay for keeping these cars in the minds of enthusiasts.

  • @joesullivan-y9r
    @joesullivan-y9r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only Jay can get away with telling the world he won't pay "some guy on ebay" $80 for a spark plug while surrounded by his $100,000,000 car collection.

  • @bennyhannover9361
    @bennyhannover9361 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The engine was also used from Citroen for a coupe based on the Citroen Ami 8 only as a prototype called Citroen M 50

  • @dyanissimo1972
    @dyanissimo1972 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi Jay. Instead of the NSU RO80 you can also go for the Citroen GS Birotor. Same twin rotor wankel engine. Really rare but a more interesting story. And as a big bonus you have the hydropneumatic suspension.

    • @snowrocket
      @snowrocket 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's not the same engine as far as I know. NSU built their own. Citroen's was by Comotor. Comotor was some sort of joint venture and I think their Wankel was different from the NSU engine. Citroen thought the Birotor was such a disaster that they tried to buy up all of those and crush them. A few still survive.
      While standing in front of several Citroen cars a few years ago at the Imports at Carlisle (Pennsylvania) car meet, I was talking with another Citroen enthusiast. We both simultaneously remembered the Citroën Birotor and had a good laugh. We realized we were probably the only two people in the USA having that conversation...and likely the only two who cared. It was one of my best memories of the car show!

  • @barryandbonnievandergreft2265
    @barryandbonnievandergreft2265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Always enjoy the "odd ball" cars, Jay! Engine placement reminds me of the V.W. Type 3s'. Remember the old t.v. add with Dustin Hoffman trying to find the engine in a type 3 Fastback? Would have been neat to see her up on the hoist for a look. Thanks, Jay for featuring this car, keep the good work.

    • @stewartdallas464
      @stewartdallas464 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/video/lGdf9ea2olQ/w-d-xo.html Here's the TV commerical you mentioned.

  • @grandcarriage1
    @grandcarriage1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a GORGEOUS little car

  • @polaritDK
    @polaritDK 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i used to drive around in one of these - as a kid, my father had one of these and the RO80, while he was working for NSU as a engineer - good times
    They tested the DKM version to 55.000 RPM in a reinforced testcell

  • @nineteenandfortyone
    @nineteenandfortyone 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks sir for an excellent glimpse at a bit of what could have been the future from the times when anything was possible if the money was right. One of the dreams that this child would get from the pages of Popular Science or Popular Mechanics.

  • @OsbornTramain
    @OsbornTramain 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Always loved these....the front end styling looks a lot like the Raymond Lowey Studebaker Coupe of 1953

    • @andreguerin2461
      @andreguerin2461 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And a litle bit of Kalman Ghia design. 😊😊

  • @roberta.6399
    @roberta.6399 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That car is incredibly small! Very COOL

  • @1SaG
    @1SaG 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When I had an RX-8 in for review, the press car came with multiple warning labels (interior, engine compartment, fuel filler, IIRC) to *frequently* check the oil level - and with one or two containers of motor-oil in the trunk. :D So it doesn't seem to me that they ever truly perfected the rotary/Wankel. It's an interesting concept with lots of strong points - but asking folks to do oil-checks this frequently ..? Besides: When I check Mazda-enthusiast channels, it seems to me that even their latest iterations will still need plenty of in-depth maintenance and - every few years or so - a complete rebuild. Plus there's the whole thing about gas-mileage. That RX-8 was lots of fun, but it got pretty horrible mileage compared to non-rotary sporty cars - even ones with much more power. On public roads, I think I managed about the same MPG with it as I did with a 997.2 Carrera 4S.

  • @bradfordbarrettluckotheIrish
    @bradfordbarrettluckotheIrish 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the engine demo Jay

  • @hesstwentyone
    @hesstwentyone 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I find cars / videos like this FAR more interesting than anything modern (i.e. hypercar, any new-ish Ferrari, etc.)

  • @stevenicoson6670
    @stevenicoson6670 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for another great video Jay. It was interesting for sure.
    What a cute little car. Love the sound of that engine. It is interesting that engine never caught on in America. Oh well.
    Thanks for telling us about this car and engine. Found it very interesting. Thanks again Jay.
    Retired Air Force veteran.

  • @martinda7446
    @martinda7446 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I used to love looking at that car in the Science Museum in Kensington London, when I was a kid... Hope they still have it, the last time I went the displays were atrocious compared to the 70s 80s...

  • @BMWRRT-kg5pd
    @BMWRRT-kg5pd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to see Jays cars. Amazing collection!

  • @charlesflint9048
    @charlesflint9048 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I remember in the early ‘70s having a ride in an NSU Ro 80 and It sounded and felt like sci fi future. So smooth and such a nice sound!.

  • @MF_UNDERTOW
    @MF_UNDERTOW 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think most Mazda mechanics would refute the idea that Mazda perfected the rotor seals.

  • @HarborLockRoad
    @HarborLockRoad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I had a 2cyl regular 2door saloon prinz, a 59 and 60. That engine was from the 500cc sportmax motorcycle, it was so modern with no belts or clutter, there was nothing wrong with it. The wankel killed this company it was supposed to save, just like the Avanti finished off Studebaker. Nsu got bought out by VW who didnt want in house competition for their small cars, and folded nsu in with porsche/ audi. So, if you drive one of those, it may be mfgd in the old neckarsulm plant , the last nsu prinz was made in 1976... The first postwar car was the prinz for 1958 made in the fall of 57. Prewar, theyd made motorcycles, mopeds, bicycles, and, originally in the 1890s, sewing machines. They also made the motorcycle and scooters postwar, but, like zundapp, it also faded away eventually. There was also a separate nsu/ fiat company for a while, making fiat/ nsu cars under license . The last NSU designed car eventually became the Audi fox . I still have the hood ornament from my last 1960 prinz 3, the 1962 corvair like rework didnt catch my eye. The original, and these sport prinzes by Bertone were the cream of the crop. The ro 80 was magnificent and modern, and many survivors have ford v4 engines as replacements. Pity such a great company was lost, but always in my heart. ❤️👍

  • @rjnation5042
    @rjnation5042 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a wonderful little convertible, didn't know that one existed, knew of the Ro80 but didn't realise they made the Spyder, Rj in Oz

  • @SteveTheFordGuy985
    @SteveTheFordGuy985 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hello Jay,
    I have never heard of the NSU until now. I like it, nice little convertible . I purchased a 1983 Mazda RX-7 from the original owner way back in 1985. It was pamperd,
    Garage kept, just 32k on the clock. It was a twin rotor engine 12-A , had 4 spark plugs, two plugs per cylinder, or rotor , one plug was the lead, and the second plug was the trail. Fired within seconds of each other. I loved that car. It had great acceleration and fun to drive. Thanks, Jay, for sharing your NSU .

  • @markspence3750
    @markspence3750 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is amazing....

  • @domfer2540
    @domfer2540 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for showing the car. Many people have not heard of NSU or forgot about them. I had the pleasure to drive one in the early 70’s.

  • @peterk8874
    @peterk8874 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    NSU started as bicycle manufacturers. At some time they where the largest in the world.
    Only relatively late after the war they started to build cars as well.

  • @mjrippe
    @mjrippe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have been a fan of the Wankel for some time and really appreciate seeing this car in action. However, I must admit that the first shot of Jay next to the vehicle made it look like a pedal car!

  • @WiSeNhEiMeR-1369
    @WiSeNhEiMeR-1369 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks
    COOP
    ...

  • @toobalicious
    @toobalicious 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That NSU Wankel really brought a smile to my face. No, it's not the fastest, fanciest, or best handling car out there, but talk about a fun segment. Thanks for sharing this cool little car with us!

    • @explorer914
      @explorer914 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah a lot of car enthusiasts do videos about the fast cars. But not many does the quirky cars. And that's the reason I like Jay's channel. 😊

  • @JohnGood-fz3vm
    @JohnGood-fz3vm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Seems to me, that when I was still in High School here in Canada, someone had one of these NSU Wankel Engine Cars. We were so impressed, when he "revved the engine" & told us that "it revved to 10,000 rpm" at the time. 🤣 BUT, most of us believed him at the time! 🤭

  • @donparker1823
    @donparker1823 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for sharing this with us Jay. Pretty cool.

  • @DiegoDeschain
    @DiegoDeschain 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a cool, cute design.

  • @godfellas483
    @godfellas483 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love that it has a shortwave radio receiver in the dash...the car sounds like a bubble machine tho....thanks Jay...!

  • @me109freak
    @me109freak 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very nice car you got there, Jay👍👍
    There will be an International NSU Meeting in 2024 in Austria, organized by the RO80 Club Germany. In case you might be interested, just take a look on their website. Unfortunately YT does not like links posted in comments, but maybe some key words might help to find their site: NSU Treffen Fieberbrunn 2024.
    Stay healthy and strong, an keep up with your interesting footages👍👍

  • @paulvanobberghen
    @paulvanobberghen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My father had 2 NSUs, a 1000TT and a 1200TT. A family of 4 travelled 600 miles to holidays in South of France from Brussels, Belgium and back in these minuscule cars. He was dreaming of having a RO80 but could never afford one. Biggest issue with Wankel is lack of torque.

    • @jimsykes4615
      @jimsykes4615 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      0-60 the car is low on torque. From 60-120 it's hang on. Mine is the rare American version Ro80 with 24,704 miles on it.

  • @lordbogus6709
    @lordbogus6709 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My dad has a NSU motorcycle, a Konsul 350cc. A pretty uncommon bike, we put a sidecar on it and we get all the looks!
    He also is a member of the NSU club (Netherlands) but its pretty small, NSU didnt make many great cars. Ppl in the club are only part of the club because they either had a NSU when they were young or if their dad had one. So there is no fresh blood coming in. Sadly its a dying breed. I myself have a classic BMW car, ppl buy a BMW when they never had a classic car and they want something nice. Those same ppl would never buy a NSU because there is simply no appeal. The cars are just too small, too dingy, not that pretty and really basic
    Its not that I myself am a massive NSU fan, so even me as probably the youngest guy there will only keep my dads bike and nothing more. Its pretty telling of the suituation

  • @richmeyer2064
    @richmeyer2064 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The sound of your NSU brought back fond memories of our Honda outboard cruising the lake.

  • @jamespaul2587
    @jamespaul2587 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe Mazda's commercials back in the day said you don't need pistons going up and down to make your wheels go round and round 😊

  • @LaurentdOREY-h8i
    @LaurentdOREY-h8i 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is what we love Jay! A breath of fresh air in an electrifying world 👌

  • @Shadow0fd3ath24
    @Shadow0fd3ath24 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    $3600 for this was insane tbh........in 1966 a top of the line 289ci mustang GT was sub 3550 FULLY loaded with everything performance wise and comfort wise, and power everything and heat/ac(sub 2900 with just the 289 v8 and auto), a Chevy II Nova base model was 2200, a Corvair Monza was 2100, v8 Pontiac gto 335hp was 2700, corvette was 4000

  • @ronlynch7744
    @ronlynch7744 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Unique sounds, cool one Jay. Thanks. 😎👍😎

  • @beyondmaintenance
    @beyondmaintenance 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve got a ‘59 NSU in storage (for 24 years now). Sliding door windows. Planning on bringing it into the main shop for the winter. Maybe it should get a wankle swap. ✌🏽😎

  • @heatherwhatever7714
    @heatherwhatever7714 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This looks fun. My my alarm is set.

    • @stevenkelby2169
      @stevenkelby2169 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Jay looks like he's having a fun wankel in the thumbnail!

  • @deandee8082
    @deandee8082 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    one day that may be your main squeeze Jay so stock up on plugs and parts.. gas doesn't start getting right here thats going to be your main grocery getter.. plus its a WAY cool car and you look right in it..
    there is or was a 1970 NSU RO 80 for sale in ireland on carandclassic, pretty cool and clean as a paper cut .. the RO is a twin rotor like 110hp 140 lbs T.. 2700 lbs curb weight.. thing is it's a luxury sport for the day, it won car of the year in 70 or 71? 4 door sedan, like A and B pillar that's it, but it has these wing windows in the back, look good in your stable parked next to the spider ...
    for comparison it's going to outrun your 1st gen Honda Civic SI's and hang with the Escorts as well, not the UK cosworths of course but it's right up there with any of the USA compact counterparts and with a little work can take em to school rather quickly, say a billet 4 or 5 rotor all aluminum? 500-800hp all motor.. very reliable and very streetable till you uncap the exhaust and pedal it... talk about a sleeper, fullboost on utoob can hook it all up too, prolly bolt right up to trans... you could go with a 4 rotor in the spider like 350hp but being a convertible you may need to really strap it up so she doesn't twist up, roll bar, but then you would have grip issues all the time.. 2700 mo betta than 1700, plus you can get 4 passengers in the RO for added weight, get thru them canyons in a jif... C'MON JAY just be another project!!! :-)

  • @gapcityracing6086
    @gapcityracing6086 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Really 31+ hrs this premieres thing is getting outta hand

    • @20alphabet
      @20alphabet 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's what I thought.

    • @DivineVegan
      @DivineVegan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Have a Wankel while you wait

    • @SiR2Dean
      @SiR2Dean 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yup, ridiculous isn't it. But yet here we are... 😆

    • @jesuschrist2284
      @jesuschrist2284 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait until we have premiers of premieres

    • @HRM.H
      @HRM.H 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      No one forces you to wait. Its just a notification. Get a grip

  • @spinnetti
    @spinnetti 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Cool! My uncle had one - The original engines didn't last long due to poor apex seals; amazing this one runs. In the early 70's he made it into a hybrid with his own design rotary that ran purely as a generator.

    • @martinda7446
      @martinda7446 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Seriously? any photos? He could have been the first....Well he sure would have been the first rotary hybrid in the world! That is something..

    • @stevek8829
      @stevek8829 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The engine can't be the generator, it can only drive the generator. Where did he put the big generator and battery?

    • @martinda7446
      @martinda7446 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stevek8829Well semantics, the engine/generator, package. Even in 1970 a suitable generator need only weigh a few pounds driven by a belt to deliver enough charge for what would be a bank of lead acid batteries. Would like to know the voltage he settled on, but there really isn't much space for more than ten batteries which would give a peak of 60KW. And of course he doesn't really need that many as he has the generator. I think it would have been absolutely doable in 1970. he would have been hampered by available motors probably a brushed DC motor..and power, available methods for engineering throttle (mechanical or electronic) and weight of what was a lightweight vehicle. People all over the world were experimenting and almost nothing under the sun is new. Most things have been tried and tested a hundred times before it becomes a 'new thing'.
      Remain cynical though, that is generally a wise thing.

    • @toomanyhobbies2011
      @toomanyhobbies2011 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Keep making stuff up. Someday you might find out what the real world is like.

    • @stevek8829
      @stevek8829 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@martinda7446 just generating 20 hp requires a 15,000 watt generator, what about 50 hp? That's a bit large to just add. Then add the batteries. And, wouldn't you also need the output electric motor? The OP was posting BS and he ain't going to try defending. Whats odd is, these fantasy posts always have one defender.

  • @NenadTrajkovic
    @NenadTrajkovic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I grew up surrounded by nsu, mostly with nsu 1000 and nsu 1200 and I love them. My favorite is NSU RO80

  • @Shadow0fd3ath24
    @Shadow0fd3ath24 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Videos insanely quiet.........Your audio guy needs to watch a TH-cam video at 50% volume on his PC while finishing editing to test this video vs his audio. Makes sure everyone can hear it...you can always turn it down but only can turn it up so high.

    • @TomiTapio
      @TomiTapio 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Audio level is fine compared to the youtube podcasts and lectures I listen to on my tablet.

  • @avsystem3142
    @avsystem3142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NSU? Vas ist das? When I was in high school in the early 1960's my father purchased an NSU motorcycle. He also had a car but at one time the bike was my only motorized transportation. The NSU bike was a German commuter bike. It had very deep front and rear fenders and a totally enclosed chain. The engine was a 250 cc SOHC single. The cam drive mechanism was unusual and exceptionally robust. The camshaft was driven by a connecting rod connecting to the crankshaft. That is, There was an eccentric pin on the crank and also one on the end of the camshaft. A steel link with ball bearings at each end made the connection between the two. There was absolutely no possibility of any dis-synchronization or a bent pushrod between the crank and the camshaft, totally bullet proof. I sometimes removed the muffler and would blast up Mt. Hamilton Road, in the Diablo Range east of San Jose, CA.

  • @woodyTM
    @woodyTM 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    First time watching Jay's videos on TH-cam. I appreciate the in-depth history and the way that everything is explained thoroughly. In retrospect, this car appears very small, but honestly it makes perfect sense. I love how slim the form factor of the power plant was, and it most certainly explains the appeal that Mazda took and ran with.

    • @curbozerboomer1773
      @curbozerboomer1773 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      An equivalent type of car, size-wise, would have been a 1966Karmann Ghia...with the 1300-50hp engine...Same size, similar performance--of course, VW had a tried and true, reliable product..Both small cars had a nice look to them!

    • @woodyTM
      @woodyTM 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@curbozerboomer1773 i very much agree with that comparison. You only needed do much to get you going forward

    • @flatheadV8
      @flatheadV8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am old enough to remember the when NSU Spider was around. I think from a size prospective the VW was a category larger than the NSU, at least in European eyes. @@curbozerboomer1773

  • @SaturnCanuck
    @SaturnCanuck 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was great Jay. As a child of the '70s I remember those Mazda commercials. I had a friend who had an RX-7. The Wankel was a good idea - less moving parts, smaller engine with a high power to weight ratio but…. Those damn oil leaks! And Mazda never really fixed that. Oh and I understand about Nazi’s having good ideas - cough, cough Werner Von Braun….

  • @joseaugustosmfcruz1895
    @joseaugustosmfcruz1895 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Father have a NSU TT since 1970, my birthday year. I went to university with him, it's a incredible car. We are sorry because in Portugal is very dificult to find some mechanic that realy now how to rebuild the NSU. Great video, amazing experience.

  • @LawyerCalhoun1
    @LawyerCalhoun1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I saw one in a SCCA sprint race at Lime Rock in the late 1960s. Wasn't very fast, but it wasn't the slowest car in its class.

  • @rizzlerazzleuno4733
    @rizzlerazzleuno4733 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nothings better than watching a guy in a comfortable denim snap shirt with fluffy white hair demonstrate his toys. Makes each Monday a great day. Thanks Jay. 👍👍

  • @jimhaines8370
    @jimhaines8370 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The engine failed because they are super dirty and as you said low mileage and the oil burning was obvious because they had oil injection to try to keep the seals from dying

  • @demonic477
    @demonic477 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the really sad part about the GM Wankel is they had figured out how to make the seals work and last as long as a normal engine . they had planed to sell a 4 rotor Corvette and had it ready for production when the lead of the department died. the new lead wanted nothing to do with the new engine and scrapped all the research and the engines they had already made in favor of a normal V8 . no matter what the rest of the researchers said he wanted nothing to do with it so it's all history all that time and money in development was gone and at a dump because he didn't like the idea of the Wankel engine .

  • @BobSakamoto
    @BobSakamoto 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That's the beauty of this channel. I was enough of a car nut that each year I'd buy the Cars of the World volume so I was aware of this model. But this is the only time I've ever had the chance to listen to one or see it in motion. Side comment: years ago I went to an SCCA race at MidAmerica raceway. I'm pretty sure the RX7 had not even been made yet, and the wankels that were racing were the RX3 coupes. I learned that an unmuffled wankel exhaust note quickly produced the worst headache I've ever had.

  • @Tmrfe0962
    @Tmrfe0962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love Jay, just when I think I know a lot about cars, he comes up with a zinger…beautiful Sir, thank you. As always yore a true enthusiast. And you speak direto we fellow enthusiasts. And I absolutely love how you ask, hey wanna go for a ride…like my uncle, after I express interest in his old car…thanks so much for all you do. Really great.

  • @kevinv2302
    @kevinv2302 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a 90 Mazda RX7, fast and fun to drive, but the rotary engine would put off so much heat that on long drives I could feel it on my feet coming through the floor boards, and if I parked the car on the lawn after driving it for long distances, it would leave burn marks in the grass.

  • @ifindmetal
    @ifindmetal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jay glad to see you review a car you own again , and how many times you drive over that bridge ? Lol seen same shot three times atleast 😂