@@ChrisPBacon-ou1bv Of course! TH-camrs are known for being perfet in every way and when anyone who tries to criticise them are wrong and, in fact, are idiots. (should probably say, this is sarcasm)
I can't stop appreciating philip for the effort he puts in his videos. I can't imagine myself installing and uninstalling graphics cards just to show some plebs that they will barely play CS2. And btw I love watching you either before sleep or after I wake up philip. Your narratives always calm me.
@@3kliksphilip Just keep doing what you are doing, be sure that there are people like me who love listening and watching your analysis on "the guts" of our beloved games.
@@3kliksphilip i second @innerFire’s comment about the time this video had to of consumed. Props to you for that Philip, u & @TurboMotionZ should collab on csgo sometime, his channel has been suffering from yt algorithm not pushing his cs videos lately
@@3kliksphilip i dont even play csgo and barely watch people playing it, but your analysis on it and testing makes me watch your videos as it is interesting to me. Thanks, Philip!
@@Bootymuncher23 you dont need to upgrade for cs2 man 1080 it's just fine myself i have 1070 don't worry, if you buy new cards it's for other AAA games.
Thanks, Philip, for linking to the AMD Vega video, it caught me off guard! I love the attention you put into your custom subtitles, I always make a point to watch all your videos with them switched on because of the cool things you sometimes add... :)
That clip from Going Low made me unexpectedly nostalgic and somewhat melancholic. I can't believe how many years have gone by since that series has ended. Thanks for keeping your channels going though, you're one of the rare creators who I haven't lost interest in over the years
@@tanphan1848 i'm glad to hear it! i tend to run mine with a modest power limit so i'll likely get similar results to his 56 tests while running a little cooler
I had a Vega 56 for a few years. A lovely card! (with some voltage/power tweaking) I recently upgraded to a 6700xt for below 300. If I hadn't found this deal, I would still happily play with my retired Vega card.
I have 1660 TI but on a laptop, which is less powerful than the desktop version and cant say I am having a lot of FPS. But again for CSGO, the processor I think is more important.
Pretty sure we'll have some improvements in regards of performance, its a limited beta, majors of updates will be necessary until we get a perfect cs2 and would love to see these comparations
Don't forget you're only testing dust2. The only available in cs2 of course, but at least in csgo performance differs greatly between maps as you know. Some maps halves the fps from dust2
I'm still using a Vega 56 with a 2560x1440 monitor and it's doing just fine. If you can live with using mid settings instead of high you can still play modern games on it and have a lot of fun.
I’m using a vega 64 and it ages incredibly well from what i’m seeing. It keeps getting faster and faster over the years. Also on my way to a 2k high refresh monitor in 1-2 weeks.
True! I hope in another ten years we're having this same conversation about CSGO then vs now performance except with CS2 then vs now performance! I can't wait to see what they get around to adding later on. A whole part of why they're making the shift is because they want headroom for new stuff. Exciting times in the world of CS!
I am using my gtx 1060 6gb for like 6 years, and it's still enough to play 1440p high in most of the popular games like cs:go, valorant, overwatch or minecraft. I'll probably play cs2 with my 1060 too. It can get me 180 fps on most of the maps, and I don't need more because I have 180hz monitor, so thanks for these tests :)
Seeing the great long term quality of older cards vs the nickel and diming of modern cards just makes me sad for times gone by. I feel like cards as of late are only designed to last two - three years tops.
I am rocking Vega 64 and it is a pretty powerful card. But the blowie design means every time I want all the performance I have to get ready for jet takeoff
The Vega64 is such an underrated beast. Got one for around £80, thermal modded already. Runs every single game at ultra on 1080p while undervolted! AMD drivers are AMD drivers but it's still worth it.
If you think that's bad, I started playing CSGO on an old GeForce 7800 GT & Intel Core 2 Duo 6400. It would drop into single digit stutters when nades went off scattering weapons with physics calculations. The cheapest imaginable upgrade was a blessing at the time.
no cap. next time you do this benchmark stuff, it could be to collab with Linus Tech Tips, they have all the cards which make it cheaper, and I'm sure they are happily doing it
For another type of benchmarking, sort of; in my experience the CS GO bots tend to use the same routes in the first rounds of CS. Maybe it's just my imagination but you could try this for yourself. CS 2 is sadly out of my mere mortal grasp at the moment, so I'm not familiar with the bots there. Anyways, always a pleasure seeing your videos, cheers!
I bought a 4080 and 5800X3D specifically for the source 2 engine, besed on the performance of Dota 2. The 5800X3D was 100fps better than the 12900ks in Dota 2 and it even beat the 13700k there.
Bro has an i9 13900k and 64GB DDR5. Definitely has an effect on things - even a 680 is kind of beasting. Lower resolution=more CPU=more FPS with this setup. Higher resolution+graphics=more GPU dependant.
I had to throw away my old 1600x CPU for a new (like 3 years old new) 5600x to play CS2 MM comfortably on highest settings in 144hz. CPU is more important for CS2 as it was for the CSGO, my GPU is 2070 super.
@@wapuh6371 1280x960 4xmsaa occlusion and particles on medium, the rest on high, HDR on performance, FSR off, NVIDIA reflex on+boost, on Mirage running around alone ~600 fps, ~288 99% fps .
I'm not a nerd of graphics but it's always good to learn and educate myself in that matter. Anyways, I hope my GTX card runs CS2 with a decent performance.
Nice to see a modern game not trying to kill midrange cards. But yeah, CS Go 2 should run on everything. As in everything with a decent enough graphics card and cpu. Because this game needs to be able to be played by MANY players. I do like the future upgrades, but I am sure the pro gamers will shut pretty much all of them down for even more FPS.
@@lyndonhayes3311 you can plug in a mouse+kb. I did this while visiting my parents to play Valheim. I hate building+inventory management on joysticks, it felt just like using my pc.
I had a friend that used to say that nobody is playing cs at 1080p anyway. Sadly, he passed this year and i think this statement passed together with him as he never saw CS2 :/
I can say with my i5-8600K RX480 playing 4:3 1280x1024 with everything on low except shadows high and MSAAx2, I am getting 140-220 FPS in real games depending how much action there is. I am now considering a new GPU, but apart from an old video Gamers Nexus did, its hard to find good benchmarks, because the game have seen a number of updates since the Gamers Nexus video.
I really hope you will also make a "CS2 vs older CPUs" because as a i5 6600 user with radeon r9 380x I am really wondering if a GPU upgrade would be enough in order to get higher fps.
Still rocking the vega 56 I got for 200€ in 2019 and its still pretty good even in more demanding games. Unfortunately there are still no better cards at this price point. Mine does not have coil whine that bad, but the blower fan itself is quite loud, so if you get a used one I would also recommend one with normal fans. Also try undervolting it, as that can give about 10% performance increase at the same power.
Yep, Vega 56 is still holding strong to this day! I am looking to upgrade, but it's still good enough to where i keep looking at it and thinking "I'll just wait to see what comes out next gen, i'm in no rush". Tho, assuming AMD doesn't completely screw up with the RX7700/RX7800, it'll probably be replaced soon. The coil-whine will be missed :(
"Representative of real world performance": - molotov at spawn - one guy shanks his temmate and gets instantly kicked - teamflashes Counter Strike in its purest form
My pc works fine right now for csgo (i7-4790 @3.6Ghz, GTX 980 and 12gb of ram) been "stuck" on this system for years now as its the newest gpu my mobo will allow, and i've had many other more urgent spendings to have had to spend my money on. As a student, now graduate and just started working, I didn't have a lot of money to just upgrade my system. Especially since my system worked perfectly fine handling game editors like UE4, 5 and other 3D software that can get quite heavy like houdini. Now I agree with you that you shouldn't expect old systems/cards to work just as well on cs2, but some people are just not in a situation to have the mindset of "it's time to upgrade". It's different for everyone
@@3kliksphilip Weird it just disappeared again, but this time i copied it before i sent so here you go again: Weird, I tried twice and twice my comment was gone the next day... Roughly what I said was that I made an error, it was supposed to say that my mobo can't handle a newer cpu, but I also checked the mobo compatabilities with graphics cards and the only ones I would be able to upgrade to are 1060 Ti, 1070/80 or some of the Titan cards (checked through the official MSI website by searching the mobo and then going through compatability, I'll refrain from sending a link again because I guess that's why it got deleted? But my mobo is B85M-E43 DASH so you can check it under support>compatability>vga). However, I actually very much doubt that they would work in reality as my current card is almost too big for the mobo as it's blocking the locks from the ram ports in place already and I'm guessing the other cards are bigger seeing as they're newer. So yeah, just holding on to my good ol' pc, hoping it will survive while i save up now that I'm earning money :D
@@3kliksphilip Oh ok fair enough! And yeah indeed my case is quite small and it barely fits my gpu, but I actually also do mean the graphics card itself is locking my ram slots/locks in place. If I want to add/remove ram, i need to first take out my gpu
Lately I got back into modded Skyrim, it's really hard to find modpacks that have great graphics at low cost on performance AND contain a lot of awesome custom content. Licentia is barely playable on my laptop's gtx1060, i found septimus which looks great at low performance cost (i stay mostly 35+ fps) but I dislike simonrim. Would be cool to see you compare Skyrim's popular wabbajack modpacks across many GPUs and assess what you find causes more lag overall because it appears most modpack makers are limited in the testing they can do to their own computer's specs and I personally keep finding lists that lag a ton when they could take a quarter of the computing power, but modders with a beefy computer can't just tell one mod at a time unless they swapped pc every time they release an update. Would be fun to see you compare stuff like vram speed vs vram size vs ram vs pagefile vs extra textures vs higher res textures vs extra meshes vs remeshes vs enb vs shader vs weather vs lighting vs followers vs new quests, new areas, new animations etc, etc, etc.
Great video, very interesting to see how the graphics cards compare in CS2. I hate to be this parasocial guy, but I noticed you sound a little different in this video. Not a problem, just noticed it. Keep up the great work, Philip!
my r9 fury nano card recently started dying, crashing often, so i replaced it temporarily with a 2gb gtx 960 and i am honestly very surprised with how well this old old card preforms in csgo at 1440p. i lowered the anti aliasing a bit and i get framerates i am very happy with. especially great since i paid a whopping 10 euros for it, with it listed as "non working" but i have never had a single issue with it. now let's hope i find a 2060 super or something like that listed for a good price used before cs2 launches
I'm suprised the new source 2 engine runs so well. Most titles that run on current modern engines run like shit I can see some good programmers made this engine. I guess because its previous purpose was to run VR games, it had to have been so well optimized to be able to have games that look great but also be playable at 120fps 4k resolutions on vr headsets. This engine has so much potential, because it is very modern, They utilize the latest technology and optimizations techniques, unlike other engines which are built on a very old base and are flooded with unnessesary crap.
it's nice to see 3kliksphilip and 2kliksphilip collaborating.
They are brothers after all.
@@CatsT.M proove it
@@mokmokfish2910 One (or both) of them have said so and they would never lie to us, they are TH-camrs!
@@CatsT.M Ah yes, perfect proof. TH-camrs would never ever lie to anyone!
@@ChrisPBacon-ou1bv Of course! TH-camrs are known for being perfet in every way and when anyone who tries to criticise them are wrong and, in fact, are idiots. (should probably say, this is sarcasm)
I love that Philip thinks of his entire viewership watching him when eating their lunch
I am
He isnt wrong though
@@GlinFilm what you havin
lunch gang
Same just ate spaghetti haha.
I can't stop appreciating philip for the effort he puts in his videos. I can't imagine myself installing and uninstalling graphics cards just to show some plebs that they will barely play CS2. And btw I love watching you either before sleep or after I wake up philip. Your narratives always calm me.
@@3kliksphilip Just keep doing what you are doing, be sure that there are people like me who love listening and watching your analysis on "the guts" of our beloved games.
@@3kliksphilip are you brother with 2kliksphilip?
@@3kliksphilip i second @innerFire’s comment about the time this video had to of consumed. Props to you for that Philip, u & @TurboMotionZ should collab on csgo sometime, his channel has been suffering from yt algorithm not pushing his cs videos lately
@@9ravecs he thinks so but bro is bipolar
@@3kliksphilip i dont even play csgo and barely watch people playing it, but your analysis on it and testing makes me watch your videos as it is interesting to me. Thanks, Philip!
So should we test different old vs new CPUs next??
Yes please!
i7 2600k enters the room
@@djukic921 i5-2520 exits quietly lol
@@__Who-am-i__ Q6600 ?
@@djukic921 What a beast that one is! Great CPU!
Good to know the 4090 can scrape by in CS2, got the card to play singleplayer sight seeing titles but you already know its gonna end up being 99% CS
I use mine for TH-cam...
@@crylune can we trade my 1080 runs perfect on youtube
@@Bootymuncher23 i'm good thanks
@@Bootymuncher23 you dont need to upgrade for cs2 man 1080 it's just fine myself i have 1070 don't worry, if you buy new cards it's for other AAA games.
@@kroooassant9899 what CPU do you have? My 1080 doesn't perform well in CSGO, especially not on the updated/new maps. Drops down to 100 are common
the editing, the voice, the pleasant music - this guy's videos always make me feel at home
Has to be noted - same framerate doesn't necessarily mean same input lag. Hopefully CS2 in better in this regard.
Honestly if it wasn't for cycles I think you could maybe turn down the bloom? Try and add more geometry and make sure the topology is good
@@vilmfilm why are you talking about blender here
@@nirybiry shhhh hush
There are more factors that go into input lag than most people know.
GPU usage, frametimes, power states and that's just on the GPU side.
i would prefer csgo performance even through specially for higher refresh rate expereince
an absolute legend he showed the results in the first 5seconds of the video
That clip of ultimate competitive griefing at round start will never cease to be funny
lol, same everytime..
Where is it from?
@@Pcvro 'going low in csgo' i thinbk
Can someone put a timestamp?
@@Brigand178:37 and 8:55
Great vid! Will need to be updated once CS2 drops tho, the limited test ran on "old" build by now so Hopium
Thanks, Philip, for linking to the AMD Vega video, it caught me off guard! I love the attention you put into your custom subtitles, I always make a point to watch all your videos with them switched on because of the cool things you sometimes add... :)
That clip from Going Low made me unexpectedly nostalgic and somewhat melancholic. I can't believe how many years have gone by since that series has ended. Thanks for keeping your channels going though, you're one of the rare creators who I haven't lost interest in over the years
as a vega 64 owner, i'm glad to see representation (of its power and coil whine) in a video like this about a game i really want to play
Also using vega 64 here. He's testing the 56 so its safe to say our GPUs are a bit faster than this especially with some tuning and HBM OC.
@@tanphan1848 i'm glad to hear it! i tend to run mine with a modest power limit so i'll likely get similar results to his 56 tests while running a little cooler
The collab nobody saw coming yet we all needed
I had a Vega 56 for a few years. A lovely card! (with some voltage/power tweaking)
I recently upgraded to a 6700xt for below 300. If I hadn't found this deal, I would still happily play with my retired Vega card.
I save all your videos to my watch later playlist to eat alongside with
@3kliksphilip Occasionally, however in my tiers of videos to watch, your videos are at the top reserved for dinner 😏
I have 1660 TI but on a laptop, which is less powerful than the desktop version and cant say I am having a lot of FPS. But again for CSGO, the processor I think is more important.
I have the same card (Asus tuf f15, I5 10300h gtx1660ti maxq, 16 GB RAM) i think valve will optimize the game so we can be happy. Souce 2 forever ❤️💪
Same card here, and with a Ryzen 7 2700x I have no FPS issues. You're right, the CPU is definitely important.
yeah for CSGO, but for CS2 GPU will be as important. I have 300-400 FPS all on high on CSGO but I have around 170 on CS2 Dust 2
thermals... maybe
@@pisiciculapte4251But will it run on a 486?
Pretty sure we'll have some improvements in regards of performance, its a limited beta, majors of updates will be necessary until we get a perfect cs2 and would love to see these comparations
Always a good day when you post an upload 🙏
Don't forget you're only testing dust2. The only available in cs2 of course, but at least in csgo performance differs greatly between maps as you know. Some maps halves the fps from dust2
That the Vega does so well is crazy. Can you do some 1440p testing. That performed like crap in the 1% lows in cs go ...
The beginning caught me so off guard, I'm literally half way through my sandwich and decided to watch this
I'm still using a Vega 56 with a 2560x1440 monitor and it's doing just fine. If you can live with using mid settings instead of high you can still play modern games on it and have a lot of fun.
I’m using a vega 64 and it ages incredibly well from what i’m seeing. It keeps getting faster and faster over the years.
Also on my way to a 2k high refresh monitor in 1-2 weeks.
@@tanphan1848 yeah amd card age like fine wine, the performance went up like 30% to even sometimes 40% in some games over the years.
this leaves so much room for valve to upgrade cs2 to cs2.1
True! I hope in another ten years we're having this same conversation about CSGO then vs now performance except with CS2 then vs now performance! I can't wait to see what they get around to adding later on. A whole part of why they're making the shift is because they want headroom for new stuff. Exciting times in the world of CS!
Cs2: episode 1 you mean
It's not a sandwich today, it's a double mcplant, some fries and a mcflurry, good video too!
😢🤤🫠
I’m still watching the whole video but W move to give people what they wanted without watching a 10 minute video
I was not prepared for Philip's unusually extra smooth voice in this video.
Still rocking your music cut. I love your content.
Congratulations for the next chapter of your life Phil
I like the outro music... I hope we'll soon have "Audio Crime v2"
I don't know if it's a me problem, but I think the subtitles are broken. Also, I see that you have gotten better!
They are working on for me, maybe a refresh is needed?
@@dutifulbarrel9084 done it 5-6 times, probably issue for only me I guess
yeah they're also broken for me... weird
Seeing that MSI GTX 680 lightning gave me a nostalgia trip so hard I broke my hip
GTX 960 2GB is my current card for CS. 4790k as well.
The amount of dedication this man has to his videos to spend 200 pounds for a brand new gpu just for testing. great quality of video!
so my 9 year old GTX 950 could run CS2 with high settings at avg 100fps, but can barely run 60fps on roblox with mediocre settings. Man.
Yooo that's absolutely crazy, Wouldn't call myself a "kid" at my age but I'm eating a sandwich and that intro was like what on earth
The captions at the start are quite useful
I am using my gtx 1060 6gb for like 6 years, and it's still enough to play 1440p high in most of the popular games like cs:go, valorant, overwatch or minecraft.
I'll probably play cs2 with my 1060 too. It can get me 180 fps on most of the maps, and I don't need more because I have 180hz monitor, so thanks for these tests :)
You are getting 180 fps with 1060 in cs2? What processor do you use?
I was drinking a beer, and I'm happy for the intrusion by Philip
You sound relaxed happy and healthy Phillip! Hope you're doing good!
Really enjoyed watching this while eating a milanesa napolitana (you should try it, it's great!)
Very informative. Thank you.
the yellow MSI GTX Lightning was so dope😍
Seeing the great long term quality of older cards vs the nickel and diming of modern cards just makes me sad for times gone by.
I feel like cards as of late are only designed to last two - three years tops.
@@3kliksphilip please do make a vid on this! I've only scratched the surface myself and would really enjoy seeing your indepth take on this!
I am rocking Vega 64 and it is a pretty powerful card. But the blowie design means every time I want all the performance I have to get ready for jet takeoff
it was a 4 cheese pizza and it was very good, the video length was perfect for the amount i had left!
i was eating mac and cheese
"no"
@@nickg.580 i thought it was mac and cheese
The Vega64 is such an underrated beast. Got one for around £80, thermal modded already. Runs every single game at ultra on 1080p while undervolted! AMD drivers are AMD drivers but it's still worth it.
4:38 "In a game at the end of its lifetime"?
*CS 1.6:* "Blyat, comrade!"
Have you tested the CS2 smoke on older cards? Apparently the volumetric smoke can be up to half of the gpu frame budget!
I literally took a bite of a sandwich just before 0:09
just me or does this good man sound sick?
Still blown away that I can run a Source2 game at 1440p at max settings on a 1080ti. This engine is really well optimized, imo.
im startled by the performance of the RX 6500 XT and by the fact that you know that I watch(ed) this video while eating a sandwich
that coil whine feature is sick
i wish I had a coil whine-o-meter
i have the 1060 6gb, thanks for the video. maybe i can squeeze some years from this computer still
If you think that's bad, I started playing CSGO on an old GeForce 7800 GT & Intel Core 2 Duo 6400. It would drop into single digit stutters when nades went off scattering weapons with physics calculations. The cheapest imaginable upgrade was a blessing at the time.
no cap. next time you do this benchmark stuff, it could be to collab with Linus Tech Tips, they have all the cards which make it cheaper, and I'm sure they are happily doing it
For another type of benchmarking, sort of; in my experience the CS GO bots tend to use the same routes in the first rounds of CS. Maybe it's just my imagination but you could try this for yourself. CS 2 is sadly out of my mere mortal grasp at the moment, so I'm not familiar with the bots there.
Anyways, always a pleasure seeing your videos, cheers!
I bought a 4080 and 5800X3D specifically for the source 2 engine, besed on the performance of Dota 2. The 5800X3D was 100fps better than the 12900ks in Dota 2 and it even beat the 13700k there.
Played CSGO on GTS450 untill three years ago, that was a beast lol
You sound sick Philip. I hope you get better.
Bro has an i9 13900k and 64GB DDR5. Definitely has an effect on things - even a 680 is kind of beasting. Lower resolution=more CPU=more FPS with this setup. Higher resolution+graphics=more GPU dependant.
Vega is so cool, I''m happy I grabbed one for cheap recently
I had to throw away my old 1600x CPU for a new (like 3 years old new) 5600x to play CS2 MM comfortably on highest settings in 144hz. CPU is more important for CS2 as it was for the CSGO, my GPU is 2070 super.
good to hear, i also have the ryzen 5 5600x
@@wapuh6371 1280x960 4xmsaa occlusion and particles on medium, the rest on high, HDR on performance, FSR off, NVIDIA reflex on+boost, on Mirage running around alone ~600 fps, ~288 99% fps .
I used to love my vega 56, got it for a bargain when they were clearing them, but I hated the coil whine
I'm not a nerd of graphics but it's always good to learn and educate myself in that matter. Anyways, I hope my GTX card runs CS2 with a decent performance.
so i made myself scrambeld eggs and its fantastic. love to eat while whatching you
Nice to see a modern game not trying to kill midrange cards.
But yeah, CS Go 2 should run on everything. As in everything with a decent enough graphics card and cpu. Because this game needs to be able to be played by MANY players.
I do like the future upgrades, but I am sure the pro gamers will shut pretty much all of them down for even more FPS.
Valve does some impressive optimization in the end of all things considered
Would be interesting to see how the Steam Deck handles CS2.
playing counter strike on joysticks has gotta be a horrible experience
@@lyndonhayes3311 you can plug in a mouse+kb. I did this while visiting my parents to play Valheim. I hate building+inventory management on joysticks, it felt just like using my pc.
NVIDIA likes this
Great video
that CC at the start 💀
I had a friend that used to say that nobody is playing cs at 1080p anyway. Sadly, he passed this year and i think this statement passed together with him as he never saw CS2 :/
I can say with my i5-8600K RX480 playing 4:3 1280x1024 with everything on low except shadows high and MSAAx2, I am getting 140-220 FPS in real games depending how much action there is. I am now considering a new GPU, but apart from an old video Gamers Nexus did, its hard to find good benchmarks, because the game have seen a number of updates since the Gamers Nexus video.
Great timing! Eating 5 eggs
this is what i need to see. I want to see how CS2 perform in my current geforce 1060 😂
I really hope you will also make a "CS2 vs older CPUs" because as a i5 6600 user with radeon r9 380x I am really wondering if a GPU upgrade would be enough in order to get higher fps.
Still rocking the vega 56 I got for 200€ in 2019 and its still pretty good even in more demanding games. Unfortunately there are still no better cards at this price point. Mine does not have coil whine that bad, but the blower fan itself is quite loud, so if you get a used one I would also recommend one with normal fans. Also try undervolting it, as that can give about 10% performance increase at the same power.
Thank you 3Kliksphilip for making a nice video so that I can watch while I eat my breakfast
We need Philip to go down the ULMB rabbit hole 💀
Yep, Vega 56 is still holding strong to this day! I am looking to upgrade, but it's still good enough to where i keep looking at it and thinking "I'll just wait to see what comes out next gen, i'm in no rush". Tho, assuming AMD doesn't completely screw up with the RX7700/RX7800, it'll probably be replaced soon. The coil-whine will be missed :(
GOD'S WORK
"But if you haven't finished your sandwich" someone gets me
"Representative of real world performance":
- molotov at spawn
- one guy shanks his temmate and gets instantly kicked
- teamflashes
Counter Strike in its purest form
why am i even watching these kinds if videos if i have a gt 730
"but if you haven't finished your sandwich"
right as i take the last bite of my tuna sandwich 💀
My pc works fine right now for csgo (i7-4790 @3.6Ghz, GTX 980 and 12gb of ram) been "stuck" on this system for years now as its the newest gpu my mobo will allow, and i've had many other more urgent spendings to have had to spend my money on. As a student, now graduate and just started working, I didn't have a lot of money to just upgrade my system. Especially since my system worked perfectly fine handling game editors like UE4, 5 and other 3D software that can get quite heavy like houdini. Now I agree with you that you shouldn't expect old systems/cards to work just as well on cs2, but some people are just not in a situation to have the mindset of "it's time to upgrade". It's different for everyone
@@3kliksphilip seems like my reply got flagged as spam again 😬
@@3kliksphilip Weird it just disappeared again, but this time i copied it before i sent so here you go again: Weird, I tried twice and twice my comment was gone the next day... Roughly what I said was that I made an error, it was supposed to say that my mobo can't handle a newer cpu, but I also checked the mobo compatabilities with graphics cards and the only ones I would be able to upgrade to are 1060 Ti, 1070/80 or some of the Titan cards (checked through the official MSI website by searching the mobo and then going through compatability, I'll refrain from sending a link again because I guess that's why it got deleted? But my mobo is B85M-E43 DASH so you can check it under support>compatability>vga). However, I actually very much doubt that they would work in reality as my current card is almost too big for the mobo as it's blocking the locks from the ram ports in place already and I'm guessing the other cards are bigger seeing as they're newer. So yeah, just holding on to my good ol' pc, hoping it will survive while i save up now that I'm earning money :D
@@3kliksphilip Oh ok fair enough! And yeah indeed my case is quite small and it barely fits my gpu, but I actually also do mean the graphics card itself is locking my ram slots/locks in place. If I want to add/remove ram, i need to first take out my gpu
@@3kliksphilip yeahh it happens, but ah well, anyway thanks for the great vids!and also.. silly youtube 🤦♂️
You literally published this 8 minutes before I got my sandwich, thanks, the video lasted exactly 1 sandwich time.
did you include smoke grenades in your tests? the new smokes raymarched rendering is probably brutal on older cards.
Lately I got back into modded Skyrim, it's really hard to find modpacks that have great graphics at low cost on performance AND contain a lot of awesome custom content. Licentia is barely playable on my laptop's gtx1060, i found septimus which looks great at low performance cost (i stay mostly 35+ fps) but I dislike simonrim. Would be cool to see you compare Skyrim's popular wabbajack modpacks across many GPUs and assess what you find causes more lag overall because it appears most modpack makers are limited in the testing they can do to their own computer's specs and I personally keep finding lists that lag a ton when they could take a quarter of the computing power, but modders with a beefy computer can't just tell one mod at a time unless they swapped pc every time they release an update. Would be fun to see you compare stuff like vram speed vs vram size vs ram vs pagefile vs extra textures vs higher res textures vs extra meshes vs remeshes vs enb vs shader vs weather vs lighting vs followers vs new quests, new areas, new animations etc, etc, etc.
Great video, very interesting to see how the graphics cards compare in CS2. I hate to be this parasocial guy, but I noticed you sound a little different in this video. Not a problem, just noticed it. Keep up the great work, Philip!
It might be time to benchmark CS 1.6 and the CS:CZ campaign
my r9 fury nano card recently started dying, crashing often, so i replaced it temporarily with a 2gb gtx 960 and i am honestly very surprised with how well this old old card preforms in csgo at 1440p. i lowered the anti aliasing a bit and i get framerates i am very happy with.
especially great since i paid a whopping 10 euros for it, with it listed as "non working" but i have never had a single issue with it.
now let's hope i find a 2060 super or something like that listed for a good price used before cs2 launches
Yes Sir!
I thought by "old" you meant GPUs from like 2006!
2016 doesn't feel that long ago yet :^)
I'm suprised the new source 2 engine runs so well. Most titles that run on current modern engines run like shit I can see some good programmers made this engine. I guess because its previous purpose was to run VR games, it had to have been so well optimized to be able to have games that look great but also be playable at 120fps 4k resolutions on vr headsets. This engine has so much potential, because it is very modern, They utilize the latest technology and optimizations techniques, unlike other engines which are built on a very old base and are flooded with unnessesary crap.
I was like "where did you get those FPS from" and then saw 13900k in description
5:46 Look how they mascaraed my boy...