This is such an important topic, the more you can beat this drum the better. People should just answer back when they beat the Sabbath drum, like Academy Apologia does you have a False Gospel and a False Christ.
Truly. Because they can go round & round all day on the Sabbath subject spouting proof texts, talking points & refusing to discuss anything else even when it's WAAAAAAAAY off topic. False Jesus, false Gospel, false prophecy, false theology. There's just no way around it. They are not Christian.
Book of Okapi James 6:66 "Thou shalt not worship anyone but the goddess Ellen G. White riding on the seven-headed beast of the seventh-day Sabbath. Thou shalt never close thy mouth about tattoos, as they are more important than anything else, even the Sabbath and goddess Ellen G. White!"
@@DamonNomad82 Oy in his latest missive Saint Okapi delves into the virtues of VD 👀 I'm glad I blocked him, but I can still see his OP. He has grown ever more vulgar as time goes by. I don't know why Myles puts up with him. He is not here to engage in productive dialogue (like many others I could name, but at least they don't engage in gutter sniping).
@@okwijames947 aw yes, I always love the fact SDA claim the book of Revelation as vindication just because it mentions in passing the 3 Angels. Meanwhile, their 3 Angels Message is completely different than the Gospel of the Bible in that it targets a specific demographic group (aka Apostate Protestants) while the real Gospel was given to all of Humanity period. And Galatians 1:8 says people are cursed by preaching a different Gospel, and this is something Adventists actually admit to from EGW to various modern magazines preaching on the 3 Angels message.
Awesome comment. Show her the quotes anyway, then give her a can of Fri-Chik. She'll be all right. Nothing says "I love you" to an Adventist quite like a can of fake meat. 🤣
My wife was from S.Kore. She became a Korean SDA wife, and I'd get Tae Kwon Do'ed many times. It started in 1983, and she stopped the SDA thing in 1996.
Heads up: Hillsdale is offering a free (online video) course on "Paradise Lost." Should be interesting. I've long suspected that at least one of their religion professors might be SDA in disguise, so I'm wondering what their take on "Paradise Lost" will be?
All heresies begin at the failure to understand trinitarian theology and christology. False Trinitarian theology leads to false doctrine. False Doctrine leads to false worship and adherence
heresy actually begins with not following Scripture -- meaning a comprehension of the -'trinity'- Godhead. God the Father is not the Holy Spirit, and the Spirit is not Jesus Christ -- they are individual, as Scripture clearly shows us.
@@tony1685 so you’re not a trinitarian? What’s your version of “biblical God”? Is jesus and the Holy Spirit different forms of the father or was Jesus a created being? Or are there 3 beings ?
@tony1685 I’m glad you’re contributing to these discussions. If anything it’s making it pretty clear how much SDA and Christianity differ. I’ve mentioned before I used to think Adventism was a Christian denomination, close enough that I even dated an Adventist. My conversations with her, listening to former Adventists fellowship and Answering Adventism, reading my Bible and now reading the responses from other Adventists on this forum has been a huge lesson in my life. Now I know really how Adventists see non Adventists and it has become clear to me SDA are outside biblical Christianity in a similar way that Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons are. To SDA ‘s credit I don’t think you’re as far off as those other 2 groups. I’m sure there are many true followers of Jesus within the group. I now make it a point to warn my Christian friends about Adventism and not to consider them fellow brethren though , at least as far as the official doctrines. My attitude now is to pray for you . I’ll try not to be snarky or condescending though . That’s not right and I’m sorry for the times I have been.
@ wrong, but thanks for playing. Adventists are not Christians. Adventists are blasphemous heretics with a fraudulent Jesus that saves no one, and a bastardized gospel that is not good news, and a scapegoat sin bearer named Satan. Adventists are disgusting pompous Pharisees who Jesus loathes.
Perhaps. Hebrews 1:2 indicates that it was the Son through whom God made the worlds, while Hebrews 1:5 indicates that, at some point in time, YHWH and his Word became Father and Son. If so, then, YHWH takes the Preeminence over the Son, Yehoshua. "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" Luke 3:22
@questor5189 that's right hebrews 1:5. I will be a father he will be a.son. future tense. At the incarnation there was a change in relationship. Father and son only express God's relationship with humanity. Jesus said God is spirit. G Father son cat dog grass trees mean nothing outside creation. God always was and will be three distinct and undivided personas eternally existing from eternity into eternity. YHWH bless you. And a change in relationship is not a change in person. The son 100% man is still 100% Deity.
@@questor5189 I just do not hold to eternal sonship doctrine. I believe YHWH was and is and always be three personas simultaneously existing sharing the same nature. The flesh profits nothing.
After Incarnation Christ received honour above that which He already had in Eternity Past. Christ however spent a short time in a humbled Servant role and this causes trouble with anti Trinitarians to no end.
@Say-hey24 Phil 2:8-10: "He humbled himself, by becoming obedient to the point of death - even death on a cross! As a result God exalted him and gave him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow - in heaven and on earth and under the earth -"
If you had put a little more honest effort in your research you would have come to the conclusion that EGW never said anything other than that Christ had always been in the position of complete equality with the Father as the supreme Sovereign of heaven, but because of the defection of Lucifer and because of his subtle insinuations a special reiteration of Christ’s exalted position was necessary. The very fact that the loyal angels urged the unchanged status of Christ as an argument for accepting the Father’s announcement proves that the announcement was not the inauguration of something new, but a definition and declaration of the position which Christ had always sustained. That this is the only tenable interpretation of the passage is effectively demonstrated by reference to a parallel passage in Patriarchs and Prophets: “The exaltation of the Son of God as equal with the Father was represented as an injustice to Lucifer, who, it was claimed, was also entitled to reverence and honor. If this prince of angels could but attain to his true, exalted position, great good would accrue to the entire host of heaven; for it was his object to secure freedom for all. But now even the liberty which they had hitherto enjoyed was at an end; for an absolute ruler had been appointed them, and to his authority all must pay homage. Such were the subtle deceptions that through the wiles of Lucifer were fast obtaining in the heavenly courts. There had been no change in the position or authority of Christ. Lucifer’s envy and misrepresentation, and his claims to equality with Christ, had made necessary a statement of the true position of the Son of God; but this had been the same from the beginning.(White, Patriarchs and Prophets pp. 37, 38.) This passage is in complete agreement with the former one. The Spirit of Prophecy, Volume 1, was published in 1870 and Patriarchs and Prophetsin 1890, but the view of the question as presented in both is identical. The proclamation by the Father of the position of the Son was a necessary restatement of a situation that had never been otherwise. If Ellen G. White had intended to convey that Christ was elevated by the Father to His position of equality she would have been contradicting her other utterances to the effect that "Christ was God essentially, and in the highest sense. he was God from all eternity, God over all blessed forevermore…."G. White, R&H "The Word Made Flesh," (April 5, 1906),
Thanks for proving yet again that SDAs are not Christian. False Jesus, false Gospel, false theology fabricated by a false prophet. And congratulations on the sudden improvement in your English SDAanon 👏 😅
@@KelvinBautista-d8n LOL yes a QUOTE by definition is removed from its context to draw attention to a specific section of the whole, else you'd have to reference the entire book & let people GUESS what specific thing you are referring to. You do realize that even SDA scholars take quotes "out of context" when they write articles & other treatises?
OMG, did I hear that right, Jesus is a created son of God!!!!!!!!! I cant listen to that heresy any longer, that sounds like JW doctrine to me...... I dont know about what you guys believe in the bible, but I stand firm that Jesus Christ is as much God as God is as much Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ is Alpha and Omega...........
@@job38four10 no, they don’t claim he was created, but Ellen white believed early on (like the SDA pioneers did) that Jesus was subordinate to the Father in equality. Only the Father was the Almighty. The SDA church has sought to distance themselves from this in the modern day, but they can escape their prophetess claiming God showed her this.
@@answeringadventism being subordinate doesn't mean less than equal...you still don't understand the mind of Christ... please read philippians 2 especially verse 5 and 6 Jesus always made himself of no reputation and he change not ...that's just his character from eternity past to future Paul believe the same as sda do ..just look at his statement below....I'll advise you to read your Bible more instead of focusing on Ellen white...if you don't know the Bible you'll always find contradiction in Ellen white 1 Corinthians 15:27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 1 Corinthians 15:28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
@@christophersukhdeo1538 _"being subordinate doesn't mean less than equal."_ For obvious reasons, critical thinking skills is not one of your strong points. Right? _"Paul believe the same as sda do"_ So what can be the reason then be that you refused to preach the everlasting gospel as what Paul did?
@@nonconformist4802 what is the point you trying to make in your first statement??? We do preach the same gospel as Paul .... now let me ask you a question....Paul and John believe the same thing but did Paul preach the same message as John did in revelation??? Everybody is preaching the same message in the new testament until we get to revelation...does that make john message false???
@@christophersukhdeo1538 _"We do preach the same gospel as Paul ."_ NO YOU DON'T!!! Go read Review and Herald Nov 29 1890 Its not for us to preach the everlasting gospel as was preach by Noah, by Abraham, by Paul and Peter You are deceiving only yourself, not me.
I was just on adventists defense league, and asked them if they'd ever do a debate with you and they said they already tried, but you backed out, why? I figured you'd smoke them. Why would you back out?
He backed out because he takes eg Whites quotes out of context and is a master manipulator who is a savant in chopping up quotes and videos making five minute videos and within that time he destroys adventism but in a real debate with a knowledgeable adventist he would hide under a rock and shut down answering adventism I can't wait until they pass a Sunday law in this country and see the look on his face
(sigh) This has already been dealt with a million times in past community posts & videos. Try to stay on topic please. This is not a community bulletin board.
@kimartist oh sorry I didn't mean to drag on something that's already been taken care of, i'm just new around here, and i'm trying to learn what i'm talking about so I can help a friend out of this 😅
@@kimartist yea that's me 😅, she really is great. She's only second generation, so it's not like drilled into her head as much as somebody who's been in it for longer, but still she's promised me that will study it together, and I've already made it clear that I'm not marrying somebody i'm unequally yoked to, but I'm trying to take this seriously. I have to say miles's channel has been a real help. When I first came upon miles's channel, he was talking about the whole Sunday law persecution of the SDA church you know, I thought that was ridiculous and there's no way it's true and then I brought it up to her and she said, actually it is, and that just sent me in shock that she actually believes that. So now i'm watching these videos constantly
Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their testimony and they not their lives unto death " As long as you don't quote full page WRITINGS by sister white, SDAS will overcome you tattoos by the blood of the lamb
Book of Okapi James 6:66 "Thou shalt not worship anyone but the goddess Ellen G. White riding on the seven-headed beast of the seventh-day Sabbath. Thou shalt never close thy mouth about tattoos, as they are more important than anything else, even the Sabbath and goddess Ellen G. White!"
A rebellion is on, and Jesus will not be a part of it. Who would one love more than oneself? One's child! Who should one love even above one's child? God! - The One who gave His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to die so as to save us (although He afterward raised Jesus from the dead - Gal. 1:1), given that He Himself could not die, being the blessed and only Potentate, who only hath immortality (1 Tim. 6:15, 16). The rebellion seeks to put God aside, but Jesus will not join the rebellion. He maintains that He came to earth, sent by His Father, to do His Father's will, and to reconcile us to His Father. The rebel leader hates Ellen G. White because the rebellion was revealed to her in vision in 1858, repeating what was showed to her ten years earlier, and making her know that the rebel leader would try to kill her, to prevent her telling anyone else about it. She wrote it out but those who are custodians of her writings do not even realize the significance of it and have diluted what she saw in vision, that many people today who even claim to accept Ellen G. White have missed the understanding of the rebellion, and have joined it unwittingly. The new strategy of the rebel leader is to represent Jesus, the Son of God, as God Himself, as though the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ does not exist, effectively casting Jesus in a similar mould like himself when he sought to replace God or be like the Most High. Unfortunately, those who join the rebellion, unless they repent, will hear from Jesus that He never knew them. Do not be deceived, the incarnation of Christ did not change Christ's position as being subject to His Father because even as a human baby, He was above the angels and God commanded the angels to worship Him (Heb. 1:6).
Many people don't know scriptures like this exist in the Bible because they prefer to watch videos of people opinion than read the Bible 1 Corinthians 15:27 For the Scriptures say, "God has given him authority over all things." (Of course, when it says "authority over all things," it does not include God himself, who gave Christ his authority.) 1 Corinthians 15:28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
2:55 -- God is 'one being' -- kinda like the catholic concept of of the Egyptian: orisis, horus, isis (ra) or set (ihs) or like the Greek: zeus, apollo, athena. the Indian: brahma, vishnu, shiva. or jupiter, mars, venus. this is why you all should stick with the Godhead, not 'trinity'. see, when you all don't even start by walking in Truth -- Psalm 119:142, 151 you start off lost and remain lost and following nonsense like this.
Revelation 13:8 And All that dwell on upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the lamb slain from the foundation of the world " they shall worship him whose names are not written in the lamb's book
@LoCoWi you have been deceiving people about ways you people claim to bare the holy Spirit 😁😁 others vibrate in church, others are possessed, others sell so called holy water, oils, others Carry snakes on pull pit, others get power from tattoos, others burn christians, others burry them alive, other 38 pastors are implicated for sex trafficking with sean Combs 🤣🤣 your so called holy Spirit is Seen, but quick in spreading lies
It sounds you are denying that Jesus is God and the Son of God. How many gods do you guys worship anyway? If I declare, today, that Jesus is God, does that mean He only BECAME God just today, because I just said it? Or rather I have proclaimed the existing fact today? I may just proclaim it more than once today, Tomorrow even. Yesterday certainly... The fact remains. When God set Jesus on His throne and declared, "This is my Son", does not mean Jesus became God's Son only that moment. Nor at His baptism.
My dear brother I believe you have to asking the Holy Ghost for a real answer to your words. Your words have no meaning or purpose what the reality the Jesus is Christ and the son for the Lord Father. Remember the Jesus is God and make Himself as a Man for our salvation. In the beginning He was the Verb and the Verb make human for our own sake. He is The King and Lord with his Father. So get your facts straight.
We do not come with words of eliquint wisdom lest the cross be emptied of its power but we preach christ and him crucified!
Thanks!
This is such an important topic, the more you can beat this drum the better. People should just answer back when they beat the Sabbath drum, like Academy Apologia does you have a False Gospel and a False Christ.
Truly. Because they can go round & round all day on the Sabbath subject spouting proof texts, talking points & refusing to discuss anything else even when it's WAAAAAAAAY off topic. False Jesus, false Gospel, false prophecy, false theology. There's just no way around it. They are not Christian.
Revelation 22:14 will tell you that you are wrong plus tattoos
Book of Okapi James 6:66 "Thou shalt not worship anyone but the goddess Ellen G. White riding on the seven-headed beast of the seventh-day Sabbath. Thou shalt never close thy mouth about tattoos, as they are more important than anything else, even the Sabbath and goddess Ellen G. White!"
@@DamonNomad82 Oy in his latest missive Saint Okapi delves into the virtues of VD 👀 I'm glad I blocked him, but I can still see his OP. He has grown ever more vulgar as time goes by. I don't know why Myles puts up with him. He is not here to engage in productive dialogue (like many others I could name, but at least they don't engage in gutter sniping).
@@okwijames947 aw yes, I always love the fact SDA claim the book of Revelation as vindication just because it mentions in passing the 3 Angels. Meanwhile, their 3 Angels Message is completely different than the Gospel of the Bible in that it targets a specific demographic group (aka Apostate Protestants) while the real Gospel was given to all of Humanity period. And Galatians 1:8 says people are cursed by preaching a different Gospel, and this is something Adventists actually admit to from EGW to various modern magazines preaching on the 3 Angels message.
If I were to show these quotes to my SDA wife, I’m sure I’d get a 404 Error code.
Same with my SDA wife
Awesome comment. Show her the quotes anyway, then give her a can of Fri-Chik. She'll be all right. Nothing says "I love you" to an Adventist quite like a can of fake meat. 🤣
😂😂😂 same (🥲🥲🥲)
My wife was from S.Kore. She became a Korean SDA wife, and I'd get Tae Kwon Do'ed many times. It started in 1983, and she stopped the SDA thing in 1996.
can you explain aways the Sabbath for your wife, Sir?
do you follow Christianity?
Heads up: Hillsdale is offering a free (online video) course on "Paradise Lost." Should be interesting. I've long suspected that at least one of their religion professors might be SDA in disguise, so I'm wondering what their take on "Paradise Lost" will be?
All heresies begin at the failure to understand trinitarian theology and christology. False Trinitarian theology leads to false doctrine. False Doctrine leads to false worship and adherence
Sobering and heavy words. You have gone straight to the rotten core of heresy.
heresy actually begins with not following Scripture -- meaning a comprehension of the -'trinity'- Godhead.
God the Father is not the Holy Spirit, and the Spirit is not Jesus Christ -- they are individual, as Scripture clearly shows us.
@@tony1685 so you’re not a trinitarian? What’s your version of “biblical God”? Is jesus and the Holy Spirit different forms of the father or was Jesus a created being? Or are there 3 beings ?
@tony1685
I’m glad you’re contributing to these discussions. If anything it’s making it pretty clear how much SDA and Christianity differ.
I’ve mentioned before I used to think Adventism was a Christian denomination, close enough that I even dated an Adventist.
My conversations with her, listening to former Adventists fellowship and Answering Adventism, reading my Bible and now reading the responses from other Adventists on this forum has been a huge lesson in my life.
Now I know really how Adventists see non Adventists and it has become clear to me SDA are outside biblical Christianity in a similar way that Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons are.
To SDA ‘s credit I don’t think you’re as far off as those other 2 groups. I’m sure there are many true followers of Jesus within the group.
I now make it a point to warn my Christian friends about Adventism and not to consider them fellow brethren though , at least as far as the official doctrines.
My attitude now is to pray for you .
I’ll try not to be snarky or condescending though . That’s not right and I’m sorry for the times I have been.
@ wrong, but thanks for playing. Adventists are not Christians. Adventists are blasphemous heretics with a fraudulent Jesus that saves no one, and a bastardized gospel that is not good news, and a scapegoat sin bearer named Satan. Adventists are disgusting pompous Pharisees who Jesus loathes.
Adventism has a very bad ending.
It's ending is eternal life Revelation 22:14
how so?
@@okwijames947 very well stated, Sir.
@@okwijames947
Eternal life in hell yes
How so? A false Jesus, false Gospel, false theology given by a false prophet cannot end well except as a giant SPLOOSH 💦🔥💦 in the lake of fire.
Heresy. Before the incarnation was the eternal word, second persona of YHWH. THE WORD BECAME THE SON AT THE INCARNATION. Not prior to incarnation.
Perhaps. Hebrews 1:2 indicates that it was the Son through whom God made the worlds, while Hebrews 1:5 indicates that, at some point in time, YHWH and his Word became Father and Son. If so, then, YHWH takes the Preeminence over the Son, Yehoshua. "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" Luke 3:22
@questor5189 that's right hebrews 1:5. I will be a father he will be a.son. future tense. At the incarnation there was a change in relationship. Father and son only express God's relationship with humanity. Jesus said God is spirit. G
Father son cat dog grass trees mean nothing outside creation. God always was and will be three distinct and undivided personas eternally existing from eternity into eternity. YHWH bless you. And a change in relationship is not a change in person. The son 100% man is still 100% Deity.
@RocknRollStrutnStroll Or, the 100% Divinity has made it's home in the 100% Man, Exodus 25:8; John 2:21; Hebrews 10:5.
@@questor5189 I just do not hold to eternal sonship doctrine. I believe YHWH was and is and always be three personas simultaneously existing sharing the same nature. The flesh profits nothing.
After Incarnation Christ received honour above that which He already had in Eternity Past. Christ however spent a short time in a humbled Servant role and this causes trouble with anti Trinitarians to no end.
So almighty God got an upgrade? Perfect God was elevated to a higher position? I don’t see how. Can you explain?
@Say-hey24 Phil 2:8-10: "He humbled himself, by becoming obedient to the point of death - even death on a cross! As a result God exalted him and gave him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow - in heaven and on earth and under the earth -"
@ touché Adrian. A powerful scripture. The text certainly teaches obedience resulted in exaltation.
@Say-hey24 I would go with a heroes welcome, but I can accept your interpretation.
If you had put a little more honest effort in your research you would have come to the conclusion that EGW never said anything other than that Christ had always been in the position of complete equality with the Father as the supreme Sovereign of heaven, but because of the defection of Lucifer and because of his subtle insinuations a special reiteration of Christ’s exalted position was necessary. The very fact that the loyal angels urged the unchanged status of Christ as an argument for accepting the Father’s announcement proves that the announcement was not the inauguration of something new, but a definition and declaration of the position which Christ had always sustained. That this is the only tenable interpretation of the passage is effectively demonstrated by reference to a parallel passage in Patriarchs and Prophets: “The exaltation of the Son of God as equal with the Father was represented as an injustice to Lucifer, who, it was claimed, was also entitled to reverence and honor. If this prince of angels could but attain to his true, exalted position, great good would accrue to the entire host of heaven; for it was his object to secure freedom for all. But now even the liberty which they had hitherto enjoyed was at an end; for an absolute ruler had been appointed them, and to his authority all must pay homage. Such were the subtle deceptions that through the wiles of Lucifer were fast obtaining in the heavenly courts. There had been no change in the position or authority of Christ. Lucifer’s envy and misrepresentation, and his claims to equality with Christ, had made necessary a statement of the true position of the Son of God; but this had been the same from the beginning.(White, Patriarchs and Prophets pp. 37, 38.) This passage is in complete agreement with the former one. The Spirit of Prophecy, Volume 1, was published in 1870 and Patriarchs and Prophetsin 1890, but the view of the question as presented in both is identical. The proclamation by the Father of the position of the Son was a necessary restatement of a situation that had never been otherwise. If Ellen G. White had intended to convey that Christ was elevated by the Father to His position of equality she would have been contradicting her other utterances to the effect that "Christ was God essentially, and in the highest sense. he was God from all eternity, God over all blessed forevermore…."G. White, R&H "The Word Made Flesh," (April 5, 1906),
Thanks for proving yet again that SDAs are not Christian. False Jesus, false Gospel, false theology fabricated by a false prophet. And congratulations on the sudden improvement in your English SDAanon 👏 😅
@@kimartist he made a good rebuttal with sources, yet all you can say is false. Thanks for showing you don’t know what you’re talking about
@@KelvinBautista-d8n Did you watch the video?
@ yes I did. Just quotes taken out of context
@@KelvinBautista-d8n LOL yes a QUOTE by definition is removed from its context to draw attention to a specific section of the whole, else you'd have to reference the entire book & let people GUESS what specific thing you are referring to. You do realize that even SDA scholars take quotes "out of context" when they write articles & other treatises?
OMG, did I hear that right, Jesus is a created son of God!!!!!!!!! I cant listen to that heresy any longer, that sounds like JW doctrine to me......
I dont know about what you guys believe in the bible, but I stand firm that Jesus Christ is as much God as God is as much Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ is Alpha and Omega...........
@@job38four10 no, they don’t claim he was created, but Ellen white believed early on (like the SDA pioneers did) that Jesus was subordinate to the Father in equality. Only the Father was the Almighty. The SDA church has sought to distance themselves from this in the modern day, but they can escape their prophetess claiming God showed her this.
@@answeringadventism being subordinate doesn't mean less than equal...you still don't understand the mind of Christ... please read philippians 2 especially verse 5 and 6
Jesus always made himself of no reputation and he change not ...that's just his character from eternity past to future
Paul believe the same as sda do ..just look at his statement below....I'll advise you to read your Bible more instead of focusing on Ellen white...if you don't know the Bible you'll always find contradiction in Ellen white
1 Corinthians 15:27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
1 Corinthians 15:28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
@@christophersukhdeo1538
_"being subordinate doesn't mean less than equal."_
For obvious reasons, critical thinking skills is not one of your strong points. Right?
_"Paul believe the same as sda do"_
So what can be the reason then be that you refused to preach the everlasting gospel as what Paul did?
@@nonconformist4802 what is the point you trying to make in your first statement???
We do preach the same gospel as Paul .... now let me ask you a question....Paul and John believe the same thing but did Paul preach the same message as John did in revelation???
Everybody is preaching the same message in the new testament until we get to revelation...does that make john message false???
@@christophersukhdeo1538
_"We do preach the same gospel as Paul ."_
NO YOU DON'T!!!
Go read Review and Herald Nov 29 1890
Its not for us to preach the everlasting gospel as was preach by Noah, by Abraham, by Paul and Peter
You are deceiving only yourself, not me.
I was just on adventists defense league, and asked them if they'd ever do a debate with you and they said they already tried, but you backed out, why? I figured you'd smoke them. Why would you back out?
He backed out because he takes eg Whites quotes out of context and is a master manipulator who is a savant in chopping up quotes and videos making five minute videos and within that time he destroys adventism but in a real debate with a knowledgeable adventist he would hide under a rock and shut down answering adventism I can't wait until they pass a Sunday law in this country and see the look on his face
(sigh) This has already been dealt with a million times in past community posts & videos. Try to stay on topic please. This is not a community bulletin board.
@kimartist oh sorry I didn't mean to drag on something that's already been taken care of, i'm just new around here, and i'm trying to learn what i'm talking about so I can help a friend out of this 😅
@@RemingtonTripp Oh are you the one with the girlfriend? Funny I don't remember names, but situations & have been praying for you 🙏🤍🕊
@@kimartist yea that's me 😅, she really is great. She's only second generation, so it's not like drilled into her head as much as somebody who's been in it for longer, but still she's promised me that will study it together, and I've already made it clear that I'm not marrying somebody i'm unequally yoked to, but I'm trying to take this seriously. I have to say miles's channel has been a real help.
When I first came upon miles's channel, he was talking about the whole Sunday law persecution of the SDA church you know, I thought that was ridiculous and there's no way it's true and then I brought it up to her and she said, actually it is, and that just sent me in shock that she actually believes that. So now i'm watching these videos constantly
Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the lamb and by the word of their testimony and they not their lives unto death " As long as you don't quote full page WRITINGS by sister white, SDAS will overcome you tattoos by the blood of the lamb
Book of Okapi James 6:66 "Thou shalt not worship anyone but the goddess Ellen G. White riding on the seven-headed beast of the seventh-day Sabbath. Thou shalt never close thy mouth about tattoos, as they are more important than anything else, even the Sabbath and goddess Ellen G. White!"
Satan is furious with the remnant & but the victory will always remain with Christ's church Rev 12: 17, 18
Born the son of a king and showing oneself worthy of being king are very different issues.
A rebellion is on, and Jesus will not be a part of it. Who would one love more than oneself? One's child! Who should one love even above one's child? God! - The One who gave His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to die so as to save us (although He afterward raised Jesus from the dead - Gal. 1:1), given that He Himself could not die, being the blessed and only Potentate, who only hath immortality (1 Tim. 6:15, 16). The rebellion seeks to put God aside, but Jesus will not join the rebellion. He maintains that He came to earth, sent by His Father, to do His Father's will, and to reconcile us to His Father.
The rebel leader hates Ellen G. White because the rebellion was revealed to her in vision in 1858, repeating what was showed to her ten years earlier, and making her know that the rebel leader would try to kill her, to prevent her telling anyone else about it. She wrote it out but those who are custodians of her writings do not even realize the significance of it and have diluted what she saw in vision, that many people today who even claim to accept Ellen G. White have missed the understanding of the rebellion, and have joined it unwittingly. The new strategy of the rebel leader is to represent Jesus, the Son of God, as God Himself, as though the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ does not exist, effectively casting Jesus in a similar mould like himself when he sought to replace God or be like the Most High.
Unfortunately, those who join the rebellion, unless they repent, will hear from Jesus that He never knew them.
Do not be deceived, the incarnation of Christ did not change Christ's position as being subject to His Father because even as a human baby, He was above the angels and God commanded the angels to worship Him (Heb. 1:6).
Many people don't know scriptures like this exist in the Bible because they prefer to watch videos of people opinion than read the Bible
1 Corinthians 15:27 For the Scriptures say, "God has given him authority over all things." (Of course, when it says "authority over all things," it does not include God himself, who gave Christ his authority.)
1 Corinthians 15:28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
False Jesus, false Gospel, false theology made up by a false prophet means SDA is not Christian.
2:55 -- God is 'one being' -- kinda like the catholic concept of of the Egyptian: orisis, horus, isis (ra) or set (ihs)
or like the Greek: zeus, apollo, athena. the Indian: brahma, vishnu, shiva. or jupiter, mars, venus.
this is why you all should stick with the Godhead, not 'trinity'.
see, when you all don't even start by walking in Truth -- Psalm 119:142, 151
you start off lost and remain lost and following nonsense like this.
@@tony1685 Yes God is one being composed of three eternal and equal Persons having in them all the qualities of the Godhead.
When did the holy Spirit descend on this Guy (tattooed beast)who has siphilis on his hands So that we approve of his gospel 😅😅😅😅😅
@okwijames you really are a mean spirited person. Thanks for coming on this platform and showing us all what SDA's can be like.
@@LoCoWi
That's the true colour of Adventist fanatics!
Revelation 13:8 And All that dwell on upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the lamb slain from the foundation of the world " they shall worship him whose names are not written in the lamb's book
@LoCoWi you have been deceiving people about ways you people claim to bare the holy Spirit 😁😁 others vibrate in church, others are possessed, others sell so called holy water, oils, others Carry snakes on pull pit, others get power from tattoos, others burn christians, others burry them alive, other 38 pastors are implicated for sex trafficking with sean Combs 🤣🤣 your so called holy Spirit is Seen, but quick in spreading lies
@okwijames947 You are a joke man.
It sounds you are denying that Jesus is God and the Son of God. How many gods do you guys worship anyway?
If I declare, today, that Jesus is God, does that mean He only BECAME God just today, because I just said it? Or rather I have proclaimed the existing fact today? I may just proclaim it more than once today, Tomorrow even. Yesterday certainly...
The fact remains. When God set Jesus on His throne and declared, "This is my Son", does not mean Jesus became God's Son only that moment. Nor at His baptism.
Such a convolution of the simple gospel.
My dear brother I believe you have to asking the Holy Ghost for a real answer to your words. Your words have no meaning or purpose what the reality the Jesus is Christ and the son for the Lord Father.
Remember the Jesus is God and make Himself as a Man for our salvation. In the beginning He was the Verb and the Verb make human for our own sake. He is The King and Lord with his Father. So get your facts straight.
You are not doing the gospel of God.. you are creating hatred everywhere.. just shut down this channel