Another great and informative video thanks. The easy explanation and visual aid really takes the guesswork out when setting up a new ride as I’m currently doing. Thanks again cheers
Hi, is it possible to put 34/36 chainring from XT/SLX to deore 1x12 crankset? They use the same direct mount but Shimano site states "deore chainrings only to deore crank" etc. However it shouldn't really matter.
Thx for the explanation, this is something that you will just have to experiment with and probably end up with a few redundant parts, but you can always sell them, till you get it correct for your particular bike. I think it's fine to mix and match parts to get the chain line 'centered' in relation to the cassette and to have the chainring and crank arms clear the frame.
Thanks for the video. I thought 52mm chain line was for 148mm boost (not 55mm). I got the M7100 crank for my bike (boost rear end). Should I have got the M7120?
Shimano lists both m7100 (52mm) and m7120 (55mm) for "boost". I suppose it really depends on your frame clearance. Shorter chain stays and wider tires keep pushing the chain lines further out.
Thanks for the explainer. I’m not sure I understand why the hub spacing has any affect on the clearance on the chainring and chainstay though. Wouldn’t that clearance be totally dependent on the tire clearance the frame was intended for as well as things like how thick the tubing is? I get that the hub spacing affects the chain line in the sense that you want the chainring centered on the cassette and that will change with hub spacing though.
I dont fully understand it. I actually use a shimano xt boost crank, which means 121mm with two spacers. So if I would buy a 115mm the crankarms and the chainring would be to close to the frame of the bike ? Am I correct? Because If so I just learned something from your nice video. Thanks
Hi Mate, so basically if I want to get SLX 1x12 for my Nukeproof Scout V3 Boost. I need to pick the M7120, but the chainline with that is 55mm instead of 52mm. So I will need a 3mm offset chainring to get the chainline right?.
Thanks for that super informative video! Luckily I got the M7100 for my 2008 SLX upgrade. I still have some issues with the chain line that I need to understand… 🤯 as now, the chain runs straight when it’s on the 4th smalles gear on the cassette which I assume shouldn’t be the case 🤔
Great video, i cant work out if i need a m7100 or m7120? My bike is a transition sentinel v1 boost. I'd also like to run an oval chainring. max tyre size is 2.5
Bike manuf said my bike is 52mm CL. The 510 crank Q is 177. If 7100 is 52 not only am i tight on frame my W is down 6mm. Is 7120 52/55 as opposed to 55 only? Thx. -U10
Hi sir what model could you recommend for me my bike is a non boost frame and Im using a 104 bcd crank so when I install a chainring I can only fit a 38t oval inside so the chain is aligned and 42t outside now here’s the problem if i buy the m7100 Im worrying if the only chairing I can get is below 38t but if i buy the m7120 the spindle is too long or the spacers can do it fine but when I buy my bike before it using a squre tapered bb and a 3x setup so Im thinking that the m7120 can do it just fine ny bike is a cannondale trail 7 2014
Hi, thanks for the explanation. Do you know if an M71xx crankset would work with an 11 speed casette? If so, which would be the chain to use, 11 or 12speed? Thanks.
No, left crankarm is the same but you need spacers : the M7120 axle is 6mm longer than M7100 ; therefore one spacer of 3mm on the left and one on the right side
@@stefanocspt6732 hi, i'm confused. If you use a 3mm spacer on your drive side you move your chainline aswell?! I'm have sort of that problem trying to work out what crank to use on my Supercaliber'23 model. This case it's XT m8100 or m8120. 8120 seems to long axle wise
@Danny van Veldhoven Yes, assuming we talk about single chainring configuration, with FC-M8120 (or m7120) you have to install a special Shimano 3mm spacers on both side to get 55mm chainline , cause the axle is 6mm longer ; with M8100(or m7100) you have 52mm chainline without spacers. Both are for Boost frames . Maybe some frames are designed to accomodate larger tires , so someone invented 55mm chainline option to avoid larger chainstays . I see the Trek Supercaliber XT specs (i think 2022 model) : i read Shimano M8100 crank with 52mm chainline. Max tire size 2.20"
Hi I've got a 148 rear dropout so guessing I need the m7120 but I want to run a oval chainring which have a 3mm or 6mm of set, any ideas on what I need it's all very confusing lol
Good simple explanation. Im upgrading a 2008 specialized to 1x and wasn't aware of the difference in part nums. You saved me a lot of frustration
Your explanations are some of the most complete, clearly spoken ones I've found! Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and experience!
Perfect explanation, answered all my questions and provided me with a solution re: spindle width (I need to remove 3x spacers).
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Another great and informative video thanks. The easy explanation and visual aid really takes the guesswork out when setting up a new ride as I’m currently doing. Thanks again cheers
OMG this answered SO MANY questions for me bc about super boost
thanks a lot!!!!! Very important information!!!
Hi, is it possible to put 34/36 chainring from XT/SLX to deore 1x12 crankset? They use the same direct mount but Shimano site states "deore chainrings only to deore crank" etc. However it shouldn't really matter.
Thx for the explanation, this is something that you will just have to experiment with and probably end up with a few redundant parts, but you can always sell them, till you get it correct for your particular bike.
I think it's fine to mix and match parts to get the chain line 'centered' in relation to the cassette and to have the chainring and crank arms clear the frame.
Thank you! Great info!
So helpful. Thank you!!
Thanks for the video. I thought 52mm chain line was for 148mm boost (not 55mm).
I got the M7100 crank for my bike (boost rear end).
Should I have got the M7120?
I'm wondering the same thing. Update: I got the M7120 for my Fuse Comp 29 (2021) works perfectly.
HI mate, any issues on your bike?
Shimano lists both m7100 (52mm) and m7120 (55mm) for "boost". I suppose it really depends on your frame clearance. Shorter chain stays and wider tires keep pushing the chain lines further out.
Thanks for the explainer. I’m not sure I understand why the hub spacing has any affect on the clearance on the chainring and chainstay though. Wouldn’t that clearance be totally dependent on the tire clearance the frame was intended for as well as things like how thick the tubing is? I get that the hub spacing affects the chain line in the sense that you want the chainring centered on the cassette and that will change with hub spacing though.
I dont fully understand it. I actually use a shimano xt boost crank, which means 121mm with two spacers. So if I would buy a 115mm the crankarms and the chainring would be to close to the frame of the bike ? Am I correct?
Because If so I just learned something from your nice video. Thanks
Brilliant explanation thank very much
very cool, thanks for the info!
Great video.
The best.
Hi Mate, so basically if I want to get SLX 1x12 for my Nukeproof Scout V3 Boost. I need to pick the M7120, but the chainline with that is 55mm instead of 52mm. So I will need a 3mm offset chainring to get the chainline right?.
If I have the m7120, can I opt out of using the 2-3mm spacers if I would to adjust the chainline?
Thanks for that super informative video! Luckily I got the M7100 for my 2008 SLX upgrade.
I still have some issues with the chain line that I need to understand… 🤯 as now, the chain runs straight when it’s on the 4th smalles gear on the cassette which I assume shouldn’t be the case 🤔
hi my bike has the prowheel MPX-CR095A-TT, with a PW-BB92 the m7100 would fit to replace it?
thank you for this information
Can you get a chainring that gives you the extra 3mm space you need when you use a m7100 on a boost frame and hub?
No not that I’m aware of!!
Go for 0mm offset chainring.
Same question with the rest here , can i use m7120 to a non boost hub?
Great video, i cant work out if i need a m7100 or m7120? My bike is a transition sentinel v1 boost. I'd also like to run an oval chainring. max tyre size is 2.5
I would go with the M7120 especially if the bike has a 148 rear end!
@@FreeToCycle Thanks, its strange there $50 more expensive
Bike manuf said my bike is 52mm CL. The 510 crank Q is 177. If 7100 is 52 not only am i tight on frame my W is down 6mm. Is 7120 52/55 as opposed to 55 only? Thx. -U10
Hi sir what model could you recommend for me my bike is a non boost frame and Im using a 104 bcd crank so when I install a chainring I can only fit a 38t oval inside so the chain is aligned and 42t outside now here’s the problem if i buy the m7100 Im worrying if the only chairing I can get is below 38t but if i buy the m7120 the spindle is too long or the spacers can do it fine but when I buy my bike before it using a squre tapered bb and a 3x setup so Im thinking that the m7120 can do it just fine ny bike is a cannondale trail 7 2014
Hi, thanks for the explanation. Do you know if an M71xx crankset would work with an 11 speed casette? If so, which would be the chain to use, 11 or 12speed? Thanks.
Yes the M7100 chainset works fine with a 11 speed cassette, you will need to use the 11 speed chain.
@@FreeToCycle Many thanks, your channel has helped me several times with setting up Shimano drivetrains!
works fine, used the m7100 to replace the older m7000
Thx mate, problem solved.
Hi, can you use the m7120 on a 142mm rear end?
can i still use my m7100 with 148mm rear hub???
Yes!
So, could one fit a left-sided M7100 crankarm onto an M7120 spindle/axle without any spacers?
No, left crankarm is the same but you need spacers : the M7120 axle is 6mm longer than M7100 ; therefore one spacer of 3mm on the left and one on the right side
@@stefanocspt6732 Good to know! I appreciate your reply!
@@stefanocspt6732 hi, i'm confused. If you use a 3mm spacer on your drive side you move your chainline aswell?!
I'm have sort of that problem trying to work out what crank to use on my Supercaliber'23 model. This case it's XT m8100 or m8120. 8120 seems to long axle wise
@Danny van Veldhoven Yes, assuming we talk about single chainring configuration, with FC-M8120 (or m7120) you have to install a special Shimano 3mm spacers on both side to get 55mm chainline , cause the axle is 6mm longer ; with M8100(or m7100) you have 52mm chainline without spacers. Both are for Boost frames . Maybe some frames are designed to accomodate larger tires , so someone invented 55mm chainline option to avoid larger chainstays . I see the Trek Supercaliber XT specs (i think 2022 model) : i read Shimano M8100 crank with 52mm chainline. Max tire size 2.20"
@@dannyvv75 According to Trek site, Supercaliber XT version has M8100 with 52mm chainline
Hi I've got a 148 rear dropout so guessing I need the m7120 but I want to run a oval chainring which have a 3mm or 6mm of set, any ideas on what I need it's all very confusing lol
You would need the 7120 to run an oval chainring!
Clear as mud .............. unless you already know what all these numbers mean ...... I don't
Can i use m7120 on a non boost??
So, I am converting a city bike to 1x12 ---- which one do I need? I was "born" with cheap shimano
M7100 if the frame has 135mm rear dropout’s!!