II I had a hat on I'd take it off, well done!!!! You have systematically worked your way through a fault diagnosis and repair.Ii know some so called engineers who may not have completed that job as competently. Why pay for someone who in my experience doesn't always replace the correct part or mis-diagnosis the fault and replaces the incorrect part. This has been hugely helpful and interesting and informative video. I may have missed this on the video, but was there a fault code displayed at the start of the problem.
Just watched your videos. I had the same problem. Bought the motor for £35 Yippee! I have heating back. Well done mate! My spring was rusted solid. When I opened the motor though it sprung apart sending bits everywhere so if you try this be VERY careful opening the motor! I had no error messages. 2 Years ago I replaced the 3 way valve assembly by watching similar videos! I have saved about £400! To the 'knockers' - 'Knickers! You never learn anything if you don't try.
heres the thing, if that was a wet pocket sensor, that water would of come out at a pressure of about 1.5 bar, not only that, it was at 80 deg temp you could of ended up with serious burns. you would have also flooded the boiler probably damaging the pcb and other electrical components, you got away with it, but you were lucky. I would of checked the divertor motor first to make sure it was moving to the heating position. the water is not getting away from the boiler, check the heating flow pipe to see if it's getting hot.
Good video. I have the same boiler and currently have hot water but no heating. Putting it in service mode (to change high/low flame) has got my heating working again however and whilst in service mode it seems fine but the boiler cycles on and of with the flame. Otherwise when you call for heating from the wireless stat the actuator valve opens but the boiler doesn’t respond. No led light on heating. No pump running. Nothing. But when in service mode it’s all working fine and rads warm up. Any idea what’s up with it? Cheers
The part I’m looking for is the left side water tap, has a black tap switch attached to it. The whole of that part is a bit leaky, so need to replace it. Any advised will be great. Thanks in advance.
Hi mark, my central heating not working, its currently showing the flame light as orange and the tap water light is green, both solid, the central heating light is off, when i put on service mode it heats up the radiators no bother, but problem is it doesnt stay on in service mode, do you have any ideas?? The heating was working fine last night, ive also tried to reset. Any help appreciated, cheers
I think it was dry because the boiler was not on hotwater mode - mine was not dry - and one of the taps was still on also... its difficult to get the thermister back in with it pissing out water... The new one came with a washer but the old one did not. I think the washer stops it fitting properly so it was extra difficult to figure that out.
Hey man , Thank you very much for your advice , I had an error E 50 so ive got the 2 sensors that I needed ,BAXI DUOTEC 24 28 33 & 40 HE & HE A SYSTEM NTC SENSOR THERMISTER 5114725 NEW and the second one Mouse over image to zoom BAXI-DUE-TEC-24HE-28HE-33HE-40HE-TEMPERATURE-SENSOR-THERMISTER-5114725, so thanks to you I've turned the water off hahaha Cheeres man
I've got mine from eBay from £4 each , you need to turn the water off only if u change the BAXI-DUE-TEC-24HE-28HE-33HE-40HE-TEMPERATURE-SENSOR-THERMISTER-5114725, not for the NTC one but u'll have to replace bought any way
Good on you Mark for having a go. I don't get why there is all the negativity. He's not touching anything gas related and is well within his right to do what he is doing. If only more people had a go at solving problems like this people would actually learn about things and be more knowledgable in the future, rather than the throw away society we live in. Its good that you have followed a logical path and ended up finding the cause of the fault learning along the way. It's this method that makes people learn and next time you will be quids in. Well done.
Hi Andrew you stated he isnt touching anything gas related and is within his right that is in fact very wrong. Just for everyone knowledge he has removed the cover to the boiler that cover has a seal around it this can allow products of combustion into the room if not fitted correctly therefore you do need to be gas safe to undertake the work this gentleman has done.
Hi mark I have the potter ton 24 very similar to yours just no digital temp gauge. Now my problem in no ignition ,replaced the pcb but still nothin only light on is the power light nothing else lights up ,changed the ignitor also still nothing can you shed any light on this prob , there is plenty gas going to boiler central heating is off as not required till December but it won’t fire up anyway ,regards dod
Mate, the heats not getting away from the boiler fast enough. It's not temp sensors, check the pump and quality of water in the heating system (probably black). You have an obstruction in flow, check flow and return valves are fully open and check pipes are getting hot underneath. It's certainly nothing to do with thermostat. Also check the valves on your magnaclean are open if you have recently serviced it.
I have same boiler from council, I had a green light on rad symbol was a Amber light on burner symbol, but now all lights are off, does lights need to be on
Can anyone help? I have a 5f error on my boiler and the central heating won't turn off from the thermostat. Hot water is fine but I can constantly hear the boiler rev up every now and again. Any idea on what it could be?
Not sure if anyone can help me with the issues I am having with my Potterton Promax Combi 24-28-33, but I cannot find help anywhere. Basically on 05/02/2020 the batteries on the wall timer ran out and I couldn't get new ones until the next day. In the morning I noticed the hall radiator was warm and after looking into this it seems the boiler will go into an emergency mode and create heat to the radiators every few minutes (actually a very cool feature). Anyway I bought new batteries yesterday but for the life of me I cannot get the wireless wall timer unit to sync with the actual boiler. I have tried holding the button on the boiler which gives 2 red flashes and when you let go the red light stays constant for a couple of minutes. I am assuming this is the heater trying to sync with the wireless wall timer? But it just won't connect to it. I even pressed the reset button on the wall timer but still it gives a flashing red light every 15 seconds or so. The landlord has an engineer coming 10/02/2020, but I'd really like to have this sorted sooner if any of you guys have come across this.
Also the pressure is what too high on my thermostat. I can’t seem to lower it . And we have 7 radiators yet only upstairs 2 work partially. I can’t afford to buy a new boiler so it would to fix the one I have
I've got a potterton heatmax combi boiler he range the temperature fine on it but heating only comes on when running the hot water any ideas please thanks rose
Its funny how there's all these heating engineers (experts) on here telling you don't touch the boiler, and coming up with all sorts of scenarios that don't solve the problem. And these are the very people who want £65 call out and £65 per hour to solve a problem that they don't even understand. Oh and I forgot, plus VAT plus VAT plus VAT and on top of that plus VAT. Do what you want with your own boiler but don't touch the Gas. When all else fails, employ a Doctor, Lawyer or Airline Pilot to fix it, Their hourly rate is much less.
Heating engineers want you to give you all your hard earned to them and would probably fault find the same way as this guy's vid. Sometimes you have to change various parts! Its part of the fault finding process. I have Luke warm water but could be caused by 3 or more components.
@Dave J luke warm water is more than likely caused due to lack of servicing. What is the Net Kw output of your boiler and what reading did you get (m³/hour) at max in service mode. Did you get the correct -ve fp as per MI's?
@@PlayStation_ACE Hey most heating engineers spend time and money on training + exams so they can repair boilers correctly leaving the boiler safe to use -- yes we do sometimes have to change more than a fuse , but most engineers will get it safe + working first time -- this guy is a danger to himself + others -- and i'm sure he knows it !!
these dumbs dumbs are all Gas Safe Engineers that are a class of persons!!!!!!! you fuking tool. people like you and this idiot are why houses blow up and kill people!!!!!
You haven't got a bloody clue what you are doing and changing thermistors for nothing, get a gas engineer and you can see clearly the boiler is over heating on central heating demand as the temperature is rising then the overheat thermostat activates and shuts off the boiler so the fault is something else which i am not going to tell you about it, it is only for Gas Safe Registered Engineers. you are not competent to touch this gas boiler,
I have tried to get a boiler engineer but they never turn up 7 times i even fixed my lads boiler last year because he's got a 2 and 4 year old were freezing their asses of ,i have keeped both boilers going for 4 years now ,i don't touch the gas .thanks for watching and comment
You have no idea what your doing. Why risk working on a boiler to save money. And your changing perfectly good parts. Pay a gas engineer to do it right a safely
Yeah, right, I did, and it cost me 270 quid for new secondary heat exchanger, 50 quid brand NEW off ebay, so basically he charged me probably 200 quid for an hours work - he won't be back, B rip off. No wonder people do it themselves - good for them, just use common sense a know when to get a 'so-called' professional in.
Totally irresponsible. Encouraging none Gas Safe registered work. Why do you think that you have to be Gas Safe registered to work on boilers. Your video could end up killing someone. You need investigating before someone comes unstuck. Shocking.
You are working on a gas appliance. The law says that you must be gas Safe registered even to work on your own appliance. You are in effect encouraging others to do the same. You should ask your self what is the reason of being gas Safe registered ( and no it's not to rip off the public) it's to ensure that people are competent to work on gas appliance so as to ensure safe working practices and not leave the appliance in a dangerous state. This can only be ensured through proper training and education. Which is assessed and recognised by the health and safety executive. Then one can be gas Safe registered ensuring that the criteria for safe working is met.
why are you touching a gas boiler when you clearly don't know what your doing. Anybody watching this don't do anything this guy has done, just pay for somebody competent to sort it
+Colin Armour Hi Colin i am touching my boiler that i own and paid for because i have had 3 so called "plumbers" out to look at my boiler and did jack shit and left it not working so i decided to have a go myself,as i have a young child with us and slowly dying of hypothermia something had to be done sorry if this upsets you,and i am also re plumbing my son's house and its been tested and passed by a "qualified plumber" cheers and thanks for watching mark
You didn't upset me, but I wouldn't put a video on TH-cam of something I didn't know anything about, just in case anybody tried to copy and caused damage to themselves or the appliance. Sorry to here that you got shafted by plumbers (they must have been clueless) as by looking at your video if you were getting Hw but no heating then it would have been a diverter valve issue, hope you got it sorted eventually
Hi Colin i do have a diverter valve ready to fit sorry to say but i will be filming it lol but i will put a disclaimer telling people not to try this at home cheers mark
+Mark Davies it's fine to change a diverter valve on your model as it doesn't disturb any gas fitting on your boiler, but when you fitted sensors you would have had to take the combustion chamber cover off to gain access. This should only be done by a competent person. (gas safe engineer) as if the case wasn't refitted correctly or a seal was damaged it could effect combustion and be dangerous. Whenever a gas safe engineer does work that effects combustion he must check appliance with a combustion analyser to make sure everything is OK
Ok makes sense my son's mate is a gas fitter so ill get him to pop round and chcek it anyway to be safe, thanks for input will it be ok to use your statment about gas safe engineer on my video
sorry but you go all on the wrong turn , this is not your boiler and it's not your money so if you think you free to kill your self and you say it's your life that's against the low you may face prison sentence for doing that. please think before you act .
Brilliant! Had an e20 error on boiler, so ordered a thermistor for £3.99 and that's the boiler fixed!! What a superstar-thank you for the video 😀
II I had a hat on I'd take it off, well done!!!!
You have systematically worked your way through a fault diagnosis and repair.Ii know some so called engineers who may not have completed that job as competently. Why pay for someone who in my experience doesn't always replace the correct part or mis-diagnosis the fault and replaces the incorrect part. This has been hugely helpful and interesting and informative video. I may have missed this on the video, but was there a fault code displayed at the start of the problem.
Just watched your videos. I had the same problem. Bought the motor for £35 Yippee! I have heating back.
Well done mate! My spring was rusted solid. When I opened the motor though it sprung apart sending bits everywhere so if you try this be VERY careful opening the motor!
I had no error messages.
2 Years ago I replaced the 3 way valve assembly by watching similar videos! I have saved about £400!
To the 'knockers' - 'Knickers! You never learn anything if you don't try.
Glad I could help
heres the thing, if that was a wet pocket sensor, that water would of come out at a pressure of about 1.5 bar, not only that, it was at 80 deg temp you could of ended up with serious burns. you would have also flooded the boiler probably damaging the pcb and other electrical components, you got away with it, but you were lucky. I would of checked the divertor motor first to make sure it was moving to the heating position. the water is not getting away from the boiler, check the heating flow pipe to see if it's getting hot.
Good video. I have the same boiler and currently have hot water but no heating. Putting it in service mode (to change high/low flame) has got my heating working again however and whilst in service mode it seems fine but the boiler cycles on and of with the flame. Otherwise when you call for heating from the wireless stat the actuator valve opens but the boiler doesn’t respond. No led light on heating. No pump running. Nothing. But when in service mode it’s all working fine and rads warm up. Any idea what’s up with it? Cheers
When you should replace this boiler? It mean after how money years we should replace it?
Is it possible to connect one of these to a smart thermostat?
E133 shall I change the ignition sensor
The part I’m looking for is the left side water tap, has a black tap switch attached to it. The whole of that part is a bit leaky, so need to replace it. Any advised will be great. Thanks in advance.
Hi mark, my central heating not working, its currently showing the flame light as orange and the tap water light is green, both solid, the central heating light is off, when i put on service mode it heats up the radiators no bother, but problem is it doesnt stay on in service mode, do you have any ideas?? The heating was working fine last night, ive also tried to reset. Any help appreciated, cheers
I think it was dry because the boiler was not on hotwater mode - mine was not dry - and one of the taps was still on also... its difficult to get the thermister back in with it pissing out water... The new one came with a washer but the old one did not. I think the washer stops it fitting properly so it was extra difficult to figure that out.
Hey man , Thank you very much for your advice , I had an error E 50 so ive got the 2 sensors that I needed ,BAXI DUOTEC 24 28 33 & 40 HE & HE A SYSTEM NTC SENSOR THERMISTER 5114725 NEW and the second one
Mouse over image to zoom
BAXI-DUE-TEC-24HE-28HE-33HE-40HE-TEMPERATURE-SENSOR-THERMISTER-5114725, so thanks to you I've turned the water off hahaha Cheeres man
I've got mine from eBay from £4 each , you need to turn the water off only if u change the BAXI-DUE-TEC-24HE-28HE-33HE-40HE-TEMPERATURE-SENSOR-THERMISTER-5114725, not for the NTC one but u'll have to replace bought any way
Good on you Mark for having a go. I don't get why there is all the negativity. He's not touching anything gas related and is well within his right to do what he is doing. If only more people had a go at solving problems like this people would actually learn about things and be more knowledgable in the future, rather than the throw away society we live in. Its good that you have followed a logical path and ended up finding the cause of the fault learning along the way. It's this method that makes people learn and next time you will be quids in. Well done.
Thanks very much Andrew i love to learn ATB
mark
Hi Andrew you stated he isnt touching anything gas related and is within his right that is in fact very wrong. Just for everyone knowledge he has removed the cover to the boiler that cover has a seal around it this can allow products of combustion into the room if not fitted correctly therefore you do need to be gas safe to undertake the work this gentleman has done.
In my spare time I'm going to take up brain surgery, surly it can't be that difficult :-)
Once you take the case off your interfering with the boiler integrity.
@@justsendmelocation5068 Only according to the 'rule' writers whose vested interest is in stopping you from DIY. Stick to footie mate.
Hi!What does the e1 25 problem mean?
Hi mark I have the potter ton 24 very similar to yours just no digital temp gauge. Now my problem in no ignition ,replaced the pcb but still nothin only light on is the power light nothing else lights up ,changed the ignitor also still nothing can you shed any light on this prob , there is plenty gas going to boiler central heating is off as not required till December but it won’t fire up anyway ,regards dod
Hi Dod sounds like the ignition unit on the gas i don't touch gas so you might have to call a gas engineer soz thanks for watching
Hi mark how to repressurized potterton pro max boiler?
Mate, the heats not getting away from the boiler fast enough. It's not temp sensors, check the pump and quality of water in the heating system (probably black). You have an obstruction in flow, check flow and return valves are fully open and check pipes are getting hot underneath. It's certainly nothing to do with thermostat. Also check the valves on your magnaclean are open if you have recently serviced it.
+dogrob1973 thanks for watching
Don't tell him anything -- the guys a danger to himself + others !
I have same boiler from council, I had a green light on rad symbol was a Amber light on burner symbol, but now all lights are off, does lights need to be on
Brilliant video. Very helpful
The mad professor comes to mind.
what Kw is this boiler ?
How do you re pressurised this boiler when it has no pressure?
There is a pressure tap under the boiler
Hello i have the same boiler hot water not working can you help me plz
Great work mate my sister in law has no hot water what would u reckon it was 🤣
Where can you buy spare parts for this boiler?
all on ebay
How do you get it in high service mode
Can anyone help? I have a 5f error on my boiler and the central heating won't turn off from the thermostat. Hot water is fine but I can constantly hear the boiler rev up every now and again. Any idea on what it could be?
Not sure if anyone can help me with the issues I am having with my Potterton Promax Combi 24-28-33, but I cannot find help anywhere.
Basically on 05/02/2020 the batteries on the wall timer ran out and I couldn't get new ones until the next day. In the morning I noticed the hall radiator was warm and after looking into this it seems the boiler will go into an emergency mode and create heat to the radiators every few minutes (actually a very cool feature).
Anyway I bought new batteries yesterday but for the life of me I cannot get the wireless wall timer unit to sync with the actual boiler. I have tried holding the button on the boiler which gives 2 red flashes and when you let go the red light stays constant for a couple of minutes. I am assuming this is the heater trying to sync with the wireless wall timer? But it just won't connect to it. I even pressed the reset button on the wall timer but still it gives a flashing red light every 15 seconds or so.
The landlord has an engineer coming 10/02/2020, but I'd really like to have this sorted sooner if any of you guys have come across this.
Also the pressure is what too high on my thermostat. I can’t seem to lower it . And we have 7 radiators yet only upstairs 2 work partially. I can’t afford to buy a new boiler so it would to fix the one I have
I've got a potterton heatmax combi boiler he range the temperature fine on it but heating only comes on when running the hot water any ideas please thanks rose
Rose Ward Same problem here
Diverter motor. Hot water but o heating or vice versa its the go to part
had on one of these nearly four years, nothing but trouble
I have had one for ten years no trouble at all
My heaters and water is hot, pressure is on 0. I recently moved in and have this boiler. Can you tell me how to put the pressure back in. Thank u.
This is my boiler too .. my heating will not come on yet I have hot water . Only upstairs 2 heaters come on .
is your pump ok? sounds like its banging a bit when getting very hot
+Ashley Kinrade hi I think so working great so far but I will keep an eye on it
thanks for watching
Hi there, ive got the same boiler promax he plus. Its coming up E50 NTC fault, do you no which sensor it is?
Hi my boiler has same problem , Did you sort it Thanks
Its funny how there's all these heating engineers (experts) on here telling you don't touch the boiler, and coming up with all sorts of scenarios that don't solve the problem. And these are the very people who want £65 call out and £65 per hour to solve a problem that they don't even understand. Oh and I forgot, plus VAT plus VAT plus VAT and on top of that plus VAT. Do what you want with your own boiler but don't touch the Gas. When all else fails, employ a Doctor, Lawyer or Airline Pilot to fix it, Their hourly rate is much less.
Bravo
Heating engineers want you to give you all your hard earned to them and would probably fault find the same way as this guy's vid.
Sometimes you have to change various parts! Its part of the fault finding process.
I have Luke warm water but could be caused by 3 or more components.
@Dave J luke warm water is more than likely caused due to lack of servicing. What is the Net Kw output of your boiler and what reading did you get (m³/hour) at max in service mode. Did you get the correct -ve fp as per MI's?
@@PlayStation_ACE Hey most heating engineers spend time and money on training + exams so they can repair boilers correctly leaving the boiler safe to use -- yes we do sometimes have to change more than a fuse , but most engineers will get it safe + working first time -- this guy is a danger to himself + others -- and i'm sure he knows it !!
these dumbs dumbs are all Gas Safe Engineers that are a class of persons!!!!!!! you fuking tool. people like you and this idiot are why houses blow up and kill people!!!!!
E50 what that means any one knows??
DELETE THIS VIDEO IT IS SUPER UNSAFE TO DO THIS.
if this doesnt work il have to ask neil who is a plumber?????? are you gas safe Mark?
NO just a DIYIST David (plumber didn't turn up so i had a go myself i kept it running for five years)
gas engineer not plumber! well I certainly didn't learn like that, you could of damaged the pcb or even worse!!
bull sheet
Lol gimme your money I’ll rip you off lol
What 33 e1
Also stop pissing about with gas boilers!
+dogrob1973 cant help it love fixing things just plumbed my son's house from top to bottom had it checked by a pro and all great ;-)
Its the Pump
You haven't got a bloody clue what you are doing and changing thermistors for nothing, get a gas engineer and you can see clearly the boiler is over heating on central heating demand as the temperature is rising then the overheat thermostat activates and shuts off the boiler so the fault is something else which i am not going to tell you about it, it is only for Gas Safe Registered Engineers.
you are not competent to touch this gas boiler,
I have tried to get a boiler engineer but they never turn up 7 times i even fixed my lads boiler last year because he's got a 2 and 4 year old were freezing their asses of ,i have keeped both boilers going for 4 years now ,i don't touch the gas .thanks for watching and comment
This man obviously doesn't understand the basic fundamentals and guessing
This guy has no clue what he’s doing only work on boilers if you are gas safe
You do know you are breaking the law by removing the burner case..
Not a law, a statute, common mistake.
You have no idea what your doing. Why risk working on a boiler to save money. And your changing perfectly good parts. Pay a gas engineer to do it right a safely
Yeah, right, I did, and it cost me 270 quid for new secondary heat exchanger, 50 quid brand NEW off ebay, so basically he charged me probably 200 quid for an hours work - he won't be back, B rip off. No wonder people do it themselves - good for them, just use common sense a know when to get a 'so-called' professional in.
Totally irresponsible. Encouraging none Gas Safe registered work. Why do you think that you have to be Gas Safe registered to work on boilers. Your video could end up killing someone. You need investigating before someone comes unstuck. Shocking.
I AM NOT TUCHING THE FRICKEN GAS AT ALL EVER ,INVESTIGATING BY WHO THE BOILER POLICE WHY FOR FIXING MY OWN BOILER thanks for watching Andrew
You are working on a gas appliance. The law says that you must be gas Safe registered even to work on your own appliance. You are in effect encouraging others to do the same. You should ask your self what is the reason of being gas Safe registered ( and no it's not to rip off the public) it's to ensure that people are competent to work on gas appliance so as to ensure safe working practices and not leave the appliance in a dangerous state. This can only be ensured through proper training and education. Which is assessed and recognised by the health and safety executive. Then one can be gas Safe registered ensuring that the criteria for safe working is met.
tell gas safe that in fact I will!
Potterton housing estate garbage avoid this crap
why are you touching a gas boiler when you clearly don't know what your doing. Anybody watching this don't do anything this guy has done, just pay for somebody competent to sort it
+Colin Armour Hi Colin i am touching my boiler that i own and paid for because i have had 3 so called "plumbers" out to look at my boiler and did jack shit and left it not working
so i decided to have a go myself,as i have a young child with us and slowly dying of hypothermia something had to be done sorry if this upsets you,and i am also re plumbing my son's
house and its been tested and passed by a "qualified plumber"
cheers and thanks for watching
mark
You didn't upset me, but I wouldn't put a video on TH-cam of something I didn't know anything about, just in case anybody tried to copy and caused damage to themselves or the appliance.
Sorry to here that you got shafted by plumbers (they must have been clueless) as by looking at your video if you were getting Hw but no heating then it would have been a diverter valve issue, hope you got it sorted eventually
Hi Colin i do have a diverter valve ready to fit sorry to say but i will be filming it lol but i will put a disclaimer telling people not to try this at home
cheers
mark
+Mark Davies it's fine to change a diverter valve on your model as it doesn't disturb any gas fitting on your boiler, but when you fitted sensors you would have had to take the combustion chamber cover off to gain access. This should only be done by a competent person. (gas safe engineer) as if the case wasn't refitted correctly or a seal was damaged it could effect combustion and be dangerous.
Whenever a gas safe engineer does work that effects combustion he must check appliance with a combustion analyser to make sure everything is OK
Ok makes sense my son's mate is a gas fitter so ill get him to pop round and chcek it anyway to be safe, thanks for input will it be ok to use your statment about gas safe engineer on my video
Mark -- take up another part time hobby -- please !
Had a new one fitted by company 2 years ago but thank you for all you comments and info
completly illigal.
sorry but you go all on the wrong turn , this is not your boiler and it's not your money so if you think you free to kill your self and you say it's your life that's against the low you may face prison sentence for doing that.
please think before you act .
'course it's his boiler and his money, get back under your rock.