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Anand Ranganathan: Brutal, Neutral & Honest - Indian Political Truths
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50:05 Because Christianity in India is livin in differnet age. In India Christianity is more like what it was in West 300 years ago. So, when most of us talk about Christianity, we talk about what we see in our surroundings. It is our lived experience. I hope you'll understand.
she just needs to search for funny pastor healing n videos full of crowds.
christians abroad hve moved away from fundamentalism while Indian christians still r hooked on those fundamentals.
also not to forget not many r aware about inquisition of goa.
the fact not only her but mostly a lot of indians hve not yet openly discussed what happened with the majority here in india by abrah@mic cults. n after independence all of a sudden hindus became bad n abrah@mic cults became epitome of everything good.
now people r speaking more freely n discussions r happening head on n therefore the wounds of the majority r being opened for examination which were hidden by band aid n under the blanket.
@zuzanareacts
Thank you so much for sharing this! I've been sensing this for quite some time based on the comments. As the way people describe Christianity in the comments feels very unfamiliar to what I'm observing and I've been trying to say for the longest time that sth is not right as I feel everyone keeps attacking it and arguing to me on points that for me are mute - as it feels like they are almost living on a different 'planet' I know nothing about. Hence, I really very much appreciate your comment as this confirms my suspicion. Hence, Indians need to realise that what they tend to apply and attack the 'west' with has virtually nothing in common with the reality here. Again, thanks for this comment - I've been looking for this clarification forever!
@@zuzanareactsChristianity and pastors are very intolerant here zuzana
They humiliate and mock our religion and gods calling them demons and that we will go to hell unless we convert
The new converts are forced to smash the idols of their old "false" gods and eat beef, flesh of the most holy animal of Hinduism
They organise "beef" fests infront of temples
And they target the disenfranchised poor hindus and promise incentives to convert
They conduct fake exorcisms and "compel" hindu gods who they call demons out of the paid actor in the name of Christ
They do these during our holy days, especially the holy days of the very god they "exorcise"
You can find these fake exorcisms on TH-cam
Its nasty, horrible, inhumane
Now there certainly are very decent high quality people who are Christians and who don't discriminate , but they are not our concern
Its live and let live for Hindus
I don't think he's contradicting himself. Earlier he said that he does not believe in gray because it lets people to pick n choose. And now he said that Ranveer should try to get Yes and No answers from his guests because it stops the person from being the grey and picking and choosing. So I think he's on the same page at both these instances. And yes he jokingly told Ranveer not to ask many Yes and No questions to him since he did say earlier that not everything can be yes and no which is also true.
Too much english 😪
Yes, he picks black and he picks white.. both
49:00 I can totally understand your perspective from here on. We know the western society as a whole is a lot more secular and Christian belief may not have any influence on policy or politics. But whenever the Indian intellectuals comment on the Christian religion, it is more to do with the evangelical organisations that work in India. You can Google about Nagaland’s mass conversion to Christianity (which I think was the failure of the Hindu society) on why it is talked so much about. The preaching in India and other developing countries is militant when compared to the developed countries in the west.
I don't know about Western world but India's gen Z population is more lean to spirituality and love this video ❤
😅😅😅 hahaa, I appreciate your honest opinion about difference of west and India perspective. That's the beauty of India. India is only place where thousands of years are gone and Parsis ( Zoharastrians), Jews never get persecuted.
This guy is a genius… loved this podcast…
A lot of Indians live in the West. And few westerners live in India.
Therefore Indians have a better understanding of the west.
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it's not bcoz of that. lol😅😅😅
Also because indian read about western nations more and less about eastern nations. There are people who are obsessed with geopolitics so they keep eye on affairs about whole world.
Not many people in north west(western Europe and North America) understand geography that well, let alone read anything about middle or eastern world. Hardly anything about african continent. Very few people from West know about non european countries and their boundaries
India was made 'socialist ' by indra Gandhi after imposing emergency . She was heavily influenced by Russia.Now we can't get rid of it. Although so called socialism has destroyed gdp of bengal , bihar even kerala people move to other states for work .
Point is Zuanna, Dharma is, change oneself to change the world. You can't change the whole world first and then change yourself.
🙏jai hind jai shree ram🙏🇮🇳❤️👍
I agree to what you are saying. What Indians perceive as Christianity could be the older concept of Christianity which may have changed today. But you have to understand, for us, the face of Christianity and Islam (basically Abrahamic) is the religion of the western rulers that were outsiders to this land, who tried to wipe out our Dharma, traditions, cultures and our dignity. So there is a trauma of over 1000 years of continuous oppression of the Indic culture. And now suddenly saying that Christianity is changed for a good, so we should change our perception, I agree, it should happen. But you can't expedite the change in perception of 1000 years in just 75 years of independence. The collective Karma is huge. It has left such a lasting scar, that even today when the West raises eyebrows about anything related to Indic practices, we tend to get defensive seeing it as a Western + Abrahamic + Europeans trying to lecture us. And to improve our perception, to gain our trust, the West hasn't done anything significant. Since 1947, we never got reparations from Britain. We were always discriminated when it comes to financial aid, food security, support against Pakistani terrorism and not to forget the always so condescending Western media commenting on Indic culture without proper knowledge. Indians are fed up of this tbh.
Also 20% of the Harvard, Oxford etc.. donation is came from Indians & Indian Organisations.
Jai Jai Shri Ram
I sincerely thank and appreciate you for acknowledging the fact that one needs to spend at least 5-10 years in India to somewhat understand how things truly are over here. And this timeline is for the perceptive ones.
Black or white he means truthful or untruthful only. Neither left nor right only truth prevails.🇮🇳
you wont bored and learn more by listening J sai deepak , Anand ranganath, rajiv malhotra, s jaishankar . they are Diamonds of india.
What Anand Ranganathan said in Hindi was that even bjp doesn't want to dissolve the notion that they are anti muslim.
They want that false fear to stay so that Hindus believe and feel somewhat assured that bjp is hardcore pro Hindu.
This is for vote bank politics.
Even if they are doing a lot for muslims and minorities they want the opposite notion to propagate.
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31:00
To answer your question, if people from which ever religion started following their dharma, then they could end up working in synchronisation in which all the debates will help, ideas will clash and during this churning of ideas we called "samudra manthan" the revolutionary ideas will emerge.
You opinion are honest that's why we love you. ♥️
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Helo Zuzana love from india jai shree ram
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Jai Jai Shri Ram
47:52
Exactly !
People should live there to understand exactly what's real West
by black and white he meant to have a conclusion or pick a side this or this ...he doesn't like to dabble in the grey .......when asked about yes or no , he meant it as asking a direct question lawyer style and then not letting the guest explain the reasoning behind it , which would cause them great panic , he meant it as a prank ofc, but at the same time he meant it as a filter for people who like to be in grey...when he said but don't ask me yes or no questions , he meant he always has a conclusion , he won't be in the grey but he would also like to explain his reasoning as well
29:45
In 2015 Conference of Parties - 15 in Paris
India started an alliance called *Solar alliance* till now there are 95 countries( Chile recently) joined the alliance & now they will co-operate to shift energy demand. So that we can reduce pollution involved in power generation.
najlepšia politika urobená na slovensku, kvôli ktorej mám pocit, že žijem na slovensku, je, že Slovensko v novembri 2016 prijalo legislatívu, ktorá účinne zablokuje islam v získaní oficiálneho štatútu náboženstva v krajine.🙂
we know that its really of no use for only one country to think in the direction of oneness, but someone has to do it first so that others may have confidence to join....doing that will be hurtful for us in the short run but would benefit all later on, we will slowly move in that direction making our own rhymes later countries may join and we may get a beautiful song out of that. the ISA is a starting stepping stone for it in my opinion
30.00. you made a great observation about the importance of collective awareness. ATM-only India follows the "whole world family" concept, which starkly contrasts with most of the world's ( especially wealthy or ideologically dark destructive nations ) self-centred views. And yes it's aligned with that deep spiritual understanding of our very existence that we are all part of the same consciousness experiencing each other from different bodies, ethnicities, religions, countries, nations etc. All these divisions are mere ideas through our temporary material manifestation. But in the end, we all go back to the oneness unmanifested. Because the universe wastes nothing.
Actually what he means by the yes-no questions is exactly what he talked earlier about being black and white, Anand personally like yes-no questions because he's a black and white man but the grey people don't like such questions because well they're not exactly like the black-white type of person, that's why he said it's difficult to get these people to answer such questions which in turn sometimes expose their hypocrisy in the situation. This tactic of exposing hypocrisy is actually used by him many times in his debates. So yeah he is basically saying to ask such questions to people as a test to actually get a clue on if the person is being a hypocrite.
*UNPOPULAR OPINION* I don’t believe in the idea of 'the world is one family.' In modern times (Kalyug), I don't think humanity deserves such lofty humanitarian or spiritual ideologies. When Krishna spoke those words, it was a different era. Even the Government of India, I believe, doesn't truly embrace this notion; they promote it to project India’s soft power, showcase its culture, and influence other nations. The reality is that the Government of India only helps or assists other countries based on India’s interests which is I believe has nothing wrong in it.
Disagree, India really helps other countries without expectations when they need it.
@@pranav2055 if they(GOI) do so they shouldn’t.
Well Everytime They saved the world, it was America which was saved anyhow from IDK what
10:00 your laugh is great
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Anand ranganathan is my favourite and also J Sai Deepak and Sampath 😚☺️😊😘🥰
There was another video from Anand that was very interesting, he briefly mentioned it in the podcast. It's called, "why Hindus are 8the class citizens in India".
11:30
Same story of every family dinner 😅
Pity on you for your small knowledge on world's politics though i really like you and appreciate your effort and thoughts 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Love you so much from Patna Bihar Bharat 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳😚☺️😊😘🥰
I have never seen Christian being discriminated in India
I may have seen opinions on Muslims but never on Christian
Majority of Christian in North East India likes Modi
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JAI SHREE RAM ❤
17:37
Yeah I think the same 😅
He's a delight to listen. Thanks Zuzana for the reaction and if I can make a request then please do check out Major Vivek Jacob podcast. He's from Special Forces of Indian army. I am sure you'll love that podcast.
Thanks.
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Great video 😍😇
18:25 😅😅😅
Oh god
perceptions are created more out of behavorial and historic instances rather than what is actually present in the core values of a community.... a land that has been highly colonised by several christian and muslim powers over 1000 years will definitely have a different perspective .... the first question that people fail to realise in this is why was there ever a need to target India? even america got discovered by columbus while he actually wanted to search for India ... out history longs too long... our ancestors have seen the dutch/french/portuguese/british/arab/turks/afghans... all show a similar behaviour of colonisation with different degrees of attrotcities over time ... the only good thing is that we still remained alive to tell those tales rather than be genocided to a museum like the other civilisations
35:29
Free bus service for female in the National capital that makes me always angry
Converse to the perception that people around the world view that Americans believe the world is America. Some Indians are slowly realizing that people around of the world are not Americans. So its a slow process.
"The World is a Family" could gain more traction if a country like the US were to promote it. However, it is unlikely that this will happen. The only other possible scenario for the idea to gain popularity is if India eventually surpasses America in terms of economy and influence.
Hey Zuzana,
*Indians should understand your viewpoint* and generally they're open to it as millions of Indians reside in the west. I think, it's not that India is 300 years old when it comes to Christianity. Unlike the west, Indians don't believe in *"speaking good over speaking truth."* They know what's written in the Holy Books they know what priests from UK and USA preach and what Maulanas from Middle-East preach when they visit India. *No sugar-coating for the sake of tolerance because Indians believe in acceptance.*
And tbh, I feel India is innately secular unlike Europe or US cuz Historically for thousands of years, India is the only country where persecuted Jews, Christians, Yezidis, Zoroastrians, Tibetans etc were all give a permanent home...not just asylum. Because Indian's believe in acceptance... it's in the DNA. Indian civilization had secularism when the word secular wasn't even invented.
It's the country which historically for thousands of years had 3rd genders is India. The country where Atheism (Hindu-Nastik) truly began is India...as it's written and documented in the Oldest religion (Hindusim). But here in yhe west you'll be taught it bagin in 1500's in Europe which is a deliberate factual dishonesty. *There's a reason why spirituality too originated in India.* You'll find way more atheists in India than in UK or USA. *The overtly religious European view of India is absolutely wrong.* So much so that majority Indians have their worship temples in their house...they don't even prefer to go out for worship.
The Eurocentric worldview be it Modernity or Social Upheaval is based on the sense of superiority complex to sustain it's coloniality of minds.
Here, Anand was talking about Toilets...did you know that India invented Toilets, Flush, Drainage system etc in Indus valley civilization way before anyone else. *This will never be taught in European schools just like their colonial past.* But as I said above, Indians don't believe in speaking good over speaking truth. They'll speak out as it is.
Being western educated myself, obviously the Europe deserves credit for many other great things but the factual and intellectual dishonesty in the contemporary works isn't appreciated. It took a decade of research in Asian scholarly works to understand this. Would love to hear your perspective on this.
Cheers 🥂
Indian Hindus react to the Indian version of Christianity, not to western Christianity. You might find this laughable, but it is what it is. Imagine a Christian majority Europe being slowly proselytized to Hinduism by foreign Hindus. What a Christian in such a Europe would feel is what an Indian Hindu feels about Christianity in India.
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J.Sai.Deepak , Anand Ranganathan
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Salman Khurshid , Mani Shankar Ayiar
Culture Gap I Understand, Cristianity has it's own Moral Compass and your social realities is really very different!
If you are interested, you should react about Yogi Adityanath.
Most people believe that only he can be successor of Modi.
41:00 he said that Modi has done more for muslims than for hindus but his party doesnt say this out and has maintained status quo on their perceived image that they target minorities and does things which help hindus. And they do that to garner hindu votes because its a population game.
No matter what Modi does or India does, the west will NEVER change its stereotypical mindset about India or Modi.
I agree with you but not with the statement that west is more secular than india, in reality in west they have common civil code for all people irrespective of religion but here in india christians, muslims and tribes are exempt from civil code laws of Hindus, Buddhists, jains, sikhs or atheists and yes now we are trying to change it because these laws aren't creating harmony but causing friction among communities like a indian hindu and indian muslim have completely different mindsets which is very polarizing never good for any country in long run
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Hi, writing an essay for you. Please read if possible. This is completely my view.
Let me give my views on the points very respectfully that you made. Let me preface my points this with a fact that i have lived in Europe(UK 4 years and Germany 1.5 years) in the past and i will talk based on my experiences (and I completely agree that my 5.5 years experience in Europe might be very different to your experiences in Slovakia).
Now coming to the point. I am sure that our i.e. Indian experiences are very different from the experiences you had with "Christianity". We were colonised not just by Britishers but also from French and Portuguese(although in smaller numbers). And our experiences are based on more than 200 years colonial rule where the 2 major objectives of the colonial rule were very clear and this is an accepted historical fact. Firstly, loot and plunder India of its resources to recreate and rebuild British economy. In fact premise of British industrialisation was based on the de-industrialisation of India. Secondly, destroy native cultures and faith systems and convert India & Indians into Western culture and faith systems (Christianity) and "harvest as many souls as possible" as they used to say. You or to be more accurate even your forefathers may have not have experienced this type of plunder, racial discrimination and Religious atrocities(since Europe was mostly White and Christian). Our experiences with Western countries and western faith system can not be imagined by a westerner because you guys were of the same race and religion and did not suffer from the invaders because of these specific reasons. Now, please please don't assume that I am saying that you guys have not suffered(but you guys would have suffered for very different reasons) but what I am saying is that we had very different and insufferable experiences for more than 200 years with outside faith systems and Western culture with continuous showcase of racial and religious superiority which directly attacked and plundered our thousands of year old civilisation. And during this 200 years of trying to convert into western faith with abhorrent racial discrimination, they created hundreds of artificial divide into people as a result of which we have suffered and continue to suffer even till date. Now you can say that this is not what Christianity stands and this is not Christian faith and you are probably right but this is the reality of our experiences with Western faith system and cant be overlooked.
Forget India for a moment, In fact its a reality with most of countries around the world where Western nations(Mostly English, French and Portuguese) have conquered and colonised. Every country they had colonies , they have destroyed native faith systems and cultures and converted them into Christianity. Think US, think Australia, think entire of South America, think New Zealand, think most of Africa. All the cultures and native faith systems have been destroyed and its just Christianity in almost all of these countries/continents. Where are their native faith systems? So never say that what we think of Western culture is no where close to reality. its just that our reality was very different than your reality. We experienced the horror and we have every right to voice out our experiences.
Although I do agree that Western nations/Christianity have reformed and more secular (and I am not talking about protestant reformation which happened in 16th century) and because of which it seems like Western people are very different to what they were like 70-80 years ago and they are more into spirituality , atheism, secularism etc etc. etc. but that don't change the fact of our past experiences with that faith system. And you need to understand that opinion of a person on a thing is based on past experiences with that particular thing an not based on someone else's experience with that thing.
You also need to understand the fact that you are reviewing Indian content(basically meant for Indian population , not saying that others cant watch) but its obvious that Indians will defend their beliefs and speak out strongly about our experiences with Europe and you cant expect any Indian to understand Slovakian/European point of view especially on their own experiences with a certain outside culture. Just think it in other way, if an Indian was reviewing Slovakian history and tell Slovaks that Slovaks dont understand a particular thing then i would imagine that Indian would get a lot of flak from Slovak population.
Now I have seen Europe changed and i agree their is a lot of atheism floating around in the name of spirituality. But based on MY experiences in Europe this conversion to atheism is not because of spirituality but its root lies in Marxist ideology(basically the left). Spirituality is a consequence of Atheism and not the cause. We can talk about this in some other note in detail. But please note that my experiences are based on Western Europe and i agree there is a lot of difference and Eastern Europe is much more Christian that Western part of Europe. But you would have to concede that Western Europe has much more say in EU and geopolitics than Eastern Europe and thats why anyone out side of Europe refers to Europe it GENERALLY means Western Europe (UK, FR, DE, Netherlands, Italy etc.).
I think i have spoken a lot and please dont take it in any other way. I love Europe, love European people and I have enjoyed my time in Europe but wanted to tell you harsh realities of our past experiences and why we have these opinions what we have. We will voice out and voice our opinions respectfully, with dignity but without any fear or remorse or inferiority complex. We are trying to build our country step by step , brick by brick and its important that we don't forget our past because past helps us learn from our mistakes to build a better future. But we are also very cognizant of the fact that we don't harbour hatred against our past adversaries because forgiveness and humanity is what our Indian culture and civilisation teaches us. Thank you if you have read till this point.
OMG such a long video! If you had summarized it at d end, it would have been better
Please review dr. Jaishankar Blinken and Baerbock in Munich security conference 2024... You can try the print or BR24 etc or ministry of external affairs India etc... best wishes...
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47:13
Zuzana not really !
It's just cultural differences
47:47 After listening to you, now i am more confirmed. 😅
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Mr. Ranganathan I disagree with you on farmers bill, until the Bangladesh turmoil I was with you. But after what happened in Bangladesh I have to accept that he was right. That we were targeted by Soros, Donald Lu and the Indian termite called Rahul Gandhi.
Glad you're trying to comprehend India... a long visit will help... but i think west will learn o fundamentalists the hard way if they continue the naivety.
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#Zuzana, Modi gives more scholarships to muslim girls for education. Also read about Goa Inquisition.
interesting
Why chatrapati shivaji maharaj is important India? Reaction this video
you asked what he said about present govt when we have partition pakistan was created as islamic country for muslims only because they feel insecure with hinds and took the part of bharat where maximum muslims are living and bharat should have done the same sending all muslims to this new islamic region and keeping all hindus but first pm of bharat is idiot he wanted to create a secular country and good example so he let muslims live here and started giving them special rights and facilities and that created left wing in bharat since first pm had a impression of freedom fighter and he was leading congress the future leaders of congress used his name and thoughts to lead and get the central govt they always followed the british mindset and never took strong actions on anyone bullying us when nehru was asked to take a strong action on china's expansion in 1962 nehur said we don't want our neighbors to be uncomfortable as a result china easily took our land called aksai chin which is i think a area more than 1500 kms almost a size of a state that's how things worked in past and previous generation lived in that habit but in 2014 modi came a right winger man,he more like throwing water on all of us and asked us to wake up and he showed his idea of nationalism he took things to different level he made national identity card which congress didn't because they have to take bangladeshi's inside incognito for their voting purposes same is happening in USA he made everyone's bank account and connected everyone previously in bharat we have this big taxation system and many taxes he replaced it with gst and started making india self sufficient in technology and weapons instead of buying everything we are making most this was his first term and in second term he had minister like nitin gadkari,nirmala sitaraman and s jaishankar so you know the most how bharat countered covid and oil purchase with russia answering west and ram mandi a 500 year old dispute defending international waters and everything till now what i know about about right wing is they make a country limited and left wing opens the country and connects,left take care of minority and do things for their progress but all left did was to provide them free stuff and keep them scared of bjp and hindu left never forced them to get well educated and have a job it was modi who asked them to have holy book in one hand but a degree or laptop in another hand too,so everything that a left wing should do is done by modi a right winger taking care of left's job as for riots on church or mosque is systematic way to scare minority by left wing so they can get their votes and make right look bad and west helps in this because ture intention of british or west from old times is to keep bharat suppressed.
10th person to like this video reaction!
Honestly i and most of indians are against abrahmic faiths , abrahmic faiths other than judaism , they try to convert u through and through. We love our culture, heritage which is something we take pride in. We have no problem with any other religions existing in india, even we encourage folk religions/tribal religions which isn't part of hinduism. Most of the Christians in india not only convert ppl but they also fill those guys with venom towards hinduism.
You are wrong here, Indians are more aware of world's geopolitics than any other country on the planet, If don't believe, do your research about Indians 👍👍👍👍👍
Tata group is now bigger in size than Pakistan entire economy
He said you should ask yes or no questions. Guess you mis understood?
you tell us we don't know Slovakia because we don't live there but you comment behalf of whole west which you don't live 😅
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40:30 some political reasons n some very bad management. they r changing now. there r 2 sides of people overseas, 1 still view what msm bs they say about india while the OTHER side who r much more in connect with reality n aware about ground news by different sources know the reality.
cy other rplies too. also a headsup, u r a new reaction channel, u r not going to get level headed people to reply to ur questions.
here in india a person from 1 state doesn't understand other state fully, u r trying to understand india by watching some clips with zero awareness about the history of the OLDEST CIVILIZATION.
until n unless u know the history which is so complex even indians themselves dont know it fully u will never understand the discourse that is happening now.
if u want it in brief, ask me or rply me, I will try to write some context coz I'm busy right now to do a ehole essay writing
hey Zuzana , i came accross your channel few days back and i myself gained information about my country . just one suggestion , plz dont stop anything if you get any threats from islamic radicals ♥ we people are with you
Would defer with Zuzana on the religions part at the end if the video.... my reasons being...
1. Till date in India we have cases of Christian missionaries converting natives specially poor families by promises of material benefits.
2. Zuzana is talking about Christianity in western countries in current times... that is post secular period of west ... we in India... atleast people like me know about Christian inquisition in our county where native population was forcefully converted... its just that in the west entire population got converted so there are hardly any surviving pegans to tell their sude of the story... on the other hand we are survivors and till date efforts are being made to whitewash the truth.
3. The case with Islam and Muslims is even worst... 99% muslims in India are forcefully converted ... to hide thus fact they deny their Indian ancestors and try to link their origins with Arabs, Turks or Mongols... they even teach their kids this false identity... in the process they loss affinity with their country... Zuzana may disagree with my reasons ... but mark my words... the west will one day wake up to this harsh reality... I only hope it's not too late for the west because historical facts show that if muslim population in any area reachs a critical mass of 30% or above... non muslims in that area start facing existential crisis..
P.s.... I am just stating facts here ... anyone and everyone can draw their own conclusions...