I was in Greece and Holland during the late 80's early 90's... The Amiga was THE system of choice for gamers, period, back then. I had a large collection of games... fast forward to today, its interesting to see the top 10 or the top whatever list of games for this system Its definitely based on personal tastes of course, but when a system like this A500 is released, it does seem a shame that most likely due to license issues, most of the agreed upon best games can not be included... The good news is your personal favorites can be added; I just hope the process to do so is not too difficult. TV Sports Football, Dungeon Master, Shadow Of The Beast, Lotus Esprit Turbo Challenge, Earl Weaver Baseball, Eye Of The Beholder, ANY of the "Gold Box" Dungeons and Dragon Series, Insanity Flight, Super Hang On, and so many others were graphically fantastic for the times, but gameplay wise were really far ahead of their time. THAT is why there are still so many people who love the Amiga to this day... most of the OG's from back then are 45 to 65, and still are into those games, because yes, they do bring back very fond memories... I remember going to many computer shows back then and it was all Amiga, ALL the time... Too bad piracy destroyed the sales of the system and software, but we had a wonderful time with this system. Todays consoles wipe the floor graphically of course, but there was something special about the Amiga... there still is... Take care, everyone...
A good selection of games but honestly the absence of Cinemaware, Psygnosis, Bullfrog and Core Design games is unforgivable, they were some of the biggest developers for the Amiga. Glad to see Zool last, I always considered it overrated.
I too found Zool a disappointment. Superfrog beat it hands down in every count. Just a pity my copy was faulty and wouldn't load the end stage. Such a pity it wasn't included...
These old titles can’t make any money now so why not just let for example this have them for next to nothing, your old title may even get some publicity and the rights sold for a newer version. Always thought why a newer version of Carrier Command was never done when the concept was so brilliant.
great to see what these games are as i never really looked an an amiga, cool to see Simon on here as it's one of my favourite games series on pc. (5 of them and a few spin offs)
I’ve spent hundreds of hours on the C64 Maxi and I always wanted an Amiga. I’ve ordered the A500 mini of course but I’m hoping a maxi version of any Amiga comes out in the future.
I wrote a trainer for Pinball Dreams so you could literally pick up the ball with the mouse and drag it where ever you wanted to get any bonus, there was an optional shield too that would bounce the ball back up before it went out of play.
Great video mate. I'll keep my Mini Vanilla but make a games list in Igame on my real A1200 with these ones in it. Stunt Car Racer is in my top 5 best Amiga games of all time.
Hey OSG, not related to this video but I just received one of the cheapo AliExpress retro mini-consoles you reviewed a while back and it kicks arse! Would never have known they existed without your video on it. Big thanks!
oh you must be one of the lucky ones... like 90% have a great experience with them including me but ive heard some real nightmare stories from a few ...my advice is get another sd card and back the original up (clone it)
F-16 Combat Pilot is a weird choice. Wasn't it one of those sims that came with a 120-page manual and keyboard overlay? Not sure you could even get the plane off the ground without keyboard controls.
@@oldstylegaming I suspect you simply won't be able to play it without an external keyboard. It'll be one of those games that people who loved it back in the day will play, and most other people won't bother.
What an amazing piece of work. Appreciate the time put into making this huge collection of vids👍🏼 Of course there were favourites not mentioned. Wish you could have doubled the time given for each game But like other commenters I went by studio. Anything by Team17, Psygnosis, Sensible Software and Geoff Crammond were always top notch - the music, sfx, graphics and always always gameplay were top shelf. So my top ten will always include Alien Breed, Sensible Soccer, Geoff Crammond’s F1, F18 Interceptor and that damn helicopter sim haha. One thing it’s nice to be reminded of is the absolute dominance of platform game genre at the time. I think the sheer number of them forced developers into thinking laterally and every one had it’s own quirk or character that made them unique. I wasn’t a fan of platformers but played a few anyway, but I appreciate towards the end of the Amiga’s life Nintendo was taking over and the absolute dominating and rule defining platformer was Mario. Then came Playstation and an entire industry pivoted towards the console dominated world we have today. But the Amiga era it’s fun to be reminded that we saw a lot of genre defining firsts. Dune2, the first RTS. The first really playable 3D games. The first ‘God’ games. I ended up working as a designer in the games biz and I made console games by day but played PC games by night, was more a sim gamer and action games with a cinematic flair like the class of its own Alien Breed and the Bitmap’s Chaos Engine. Thanks to all the devs out there that brought us such a diverse collection,of passion-fueled projects, some of which we actually paid for 😆Happy days!
Moonstone couldn't appear due to the blood/gore. The presence of it would have meant the Mini would get a higher age rating and less stockists would be interested. So it was sadly dropped. Even with the gore mode turned off, some of the big monsters still splurt blood, and that isn't easy to disable.
I can't wait to get this A500 to relive my childhood gaming memories. The line up is ok, not brilliant. However the ability to add all the games I loved is what interests me
Its a good selection of games. Yes I am sure we could easily come up with our own stock 25 list that may or may not include ones listed here but I think this list is a good representation of the styles of games the Mig had, even if in some cases they aren't the best examples of them.
So many good games that could've been included, though for some the legal status could be preventing inclusion to the pack. One game I would have loved on the pack was Gem'X, but that is probably too obscure for most.
There are several games missing from this list that I remember playing a lot on the Amiga. Titles like Monkey Island 1 & 2, Day of the Tentacle, Elvira: Mistress of the dark, Elvira and the jaws of Cerberus, Beneath a steel sky and Moonstone: A hard days knight were all games I played heavily back on the Amiga 500. One more that I feel should be on there is Batman. Sure, it's just a side scrolling platformer but it came in the box with our machine. Also Defender of the Crown was synonymous with the Amiga.
Getting those games would have jacked up the price of the console tenfold, especially the Monkey Island games, when they are still making updated versions and off-shoots of those games today
Putty, Turrican, Lemmings, Cannon Fodder & Lotus Esprit 2 should all have been included on this. Installing downloaded roms is a nice touch though and I'm sure people will be putting these game on the mini themselves.
Never had a A500, and althought I still have my A600, i'm very tempted to get one of these. Was a massive fan of Speedball 2 back in the day, same for Simon The Sorcerer (aside for the disk swaps). Never played Another World, but loved Flashback so looks like I'd like Another World.. Agree with another comment here, Imagine if Moonstone was on this, that would have made it a must buy
There's some great games here for sure, but i'm actually amazed that Lemmings isn't one of them, as i'm sure many other folks will be too, as the impact that that game had one me all those years ago is never forgotten, and to this day it's still awesome to play. Same can be said for Cannon Fodder really, another belter not included, and I could list so many others too, but everyone's tastes vary eh? But as the saying goes, you cannot please all of the people all of the time, but you can of course add as many classics as you want via USB stick, and for keyboard controlled games, you can also plug in a USB keyboard! I'm looking forward to receiving mine soon which I pre-ordered the other day, even though I already own several Amiga machines, including a souped up CD32, but this will still be a lovely little thing to own and from other videos i've seen it does look super cute 😀 Another great video OSG, keep up the great work mate!! P.S. - No Top Banana either??? What they playing at man? 😀
I'm considering pulling trigger on this but a) wonder if they'll make a full-size version like with the C64 mini and b) perhaps wait until it's a bit cheaper.
yeah its a weird one mate...for collectors its a must have but as you say its not really practical and as you will see in this video things like Flight Sims and some other games simply cant work without a keyboard
Good list. Some of the games that played way back then was New York Warriors, Wings, defender of the Crown and It came from the Desert. This of course is just partial list. Might and Magic 2 and 3, King's Bounty and many others. With WHDload you can play the rest of your favorites.
Silkworm, swiv battle squadron, shadow of the beasts, menace, magic pockets, mean areanas, wing commander, James pond, unreal, xenon 2 mega blast, turrican but a few of what I would love to see.
I feel like only about ten of these bundled games are still worth playing, but the easy WHDload capability makes this a fantastic mini. SWOS is still great fun even now.
Once again am late seeing this video but hey am here now. Man am so getting a mini once it's out and it's has a few nice games on it already but am going to stick as many games on it as poss lock myself in a room with a beer or 10 and play on it like it's 1992 (year i got my 1200) did have a 500 before then but loved my 1200 more. Great video as always buddy and roll on the next one, so until then take it easy buddy.
This is a solid selection, and I'm particularly happy to see WormsDC included. It's the best version of Worms, and it's a shame so few got to experience it back I'm the day. As far as I am aware, this is the first time it has been re-released in any form.
I never could see the appeal of the Amiga other than for those getting cheap pirated games from market stalls back in the 90's (which is made all the more strange as market stalls also done swap a game plus a fiver for Megadrive and SNES games also). The Megadrive had The Chaos Engine and Speedball 2, so why would anyone bother with an Amiga? Considering what I've just said about the Amiga's only real USP in the 90's it's also Ironic that the type of kids that had an Amiga back then were also the type of kids that did well at maths and were probably going to grow up to become accountants, bookkeepers or estate agents etc but they seemingly couldn't care less about indulging in software piracy. 😂😂
@@bigbabatunde1218 Dude, the Amiga was amazing. :) For one thing, it was a fully fledged computer, with a powerful, properly multitasking OS. The hardware was far superior to contemporary home computers, at a fraction of the price. Most people I knew used it purely as a games machine, though. It was amazing for that too, with an enormous library, probably around 4000-6000 games. Obviously, not all of these were of great quality, but many were, and there was an amazing amount of variety, as the Amiga had numerous good games in just about every genre you could think of. As you say, piracy was extremely rampant, though. I'm guessing it may have helped the platform's popularity a bit, but it must have hurt it's commercial viability a bunch also, especially towards the end. Ultimately, the Amiga platform suffered from stagnation and mismanagement, but for about a decade, it was an amazing platform. :)
@@TheSwiftFalcon From a computer point of view, what you say may very well be true but I never heard any of the kids at school back then talk about how they were amazed at Deluxe Paint or whatever. I (no doubt as many others) have absolutely no idea what the Amiga was like for more formal computing tasks but it was always an annoyance to me (a non Amiga owner) that a lot of games seemingly couldn't run in game music AND sound FX together. More a sign of a struggling computer than an amazing one. The inclusion of a mouse with the Amiga mini seems pretty cool though even though I do suspect that it will be very limited in its modern day practicality. I don't have any specific problem with the Amiga mini being a thing, just disappointed that it's not the draw for me that other mini's have been over recent years. (Maybe disappointed is the wrong word as it should be relief as I now don't have to find space to set up and plug yet another device in to the TV).
@@bigbabatunde1218 I would humbly suggest that the awareness of Deluxe Paint among the kids at your school may not be an accurate measure of how good the Amiga was as a platform. :-) Different people used the Amiga for different things, including productivity stuff like graphics and music production (although the Atari ST is more well known for this), and general computing and office tasks. If you compare it to the computers at the time, the Amiga came out with 4096 colour graphics and 4 8-bit PCM sound channels at a time when PCs and Macs at several times the price typically provided EGA graphics and PC speaker noises. It was a massive leap forwards. This was in 1985. Comparing it to the Mega Drive, I think we should take into consideration that it was a dedicated games machine, released more than 3 years later. The A500 mini isn't just a capable of emulating the Amiga 500, though, it just as easily emulates later Amigas like the Amiga 1200 and CD32. Unlike most "minis", it is also set up to let you easily add your own games. The mouse is a useful inclusion, as a bunch of Amiga games used that as its primary control method. As I mentioned, the Amiga was home to numerous games in every genre, including mostly mouse driven things like strategy games, business sims and point-and-click adventures. A couple of the most iconic Amiga games, Lemmings (all 9 million versions) and Cannon Fodder are examples of games which benefit from mouse control. Of course, the Mini-computers/consoles are all about nostalgia, and if you don't have the nostalgia for Amiga computers, the A500 mini is probably not for you. :-) I completely understand this. For me it's the opposite though, the A500 mini is the first "mini" I've been interested in. This is in part because of my own massive nostalgia for the platform, in part because I love so many games in the Amiga library, and finally, because it lets you add your own games. The 25 included games are just a small sample of what's available, and TH-cam is full of suggestions for what to add these days.
@@TheSwiftFalcon You talk a good a game with no doubt a few valid points, especially the nostalgia factor associated for those who grew up with it. I've been interested in almost every mini that's been released but have only bought a few. I never grew up with the P.C Engine for example but was impressed with the old school shmups that were included on the Coregrafx mini as they exceeded my expectations as I genuinely didn't know how impressive they were for the time. Even At Games stuff is pretty interesting despite the abuse they have received for their products over the years. I like games of various sorts but for some reason I've never warmed to the Amiga or its games. I probably would have bought this but to me not only does the games look pretty dull (similar to the PlayStation mini's standard of game line up) it's also quite expensive for what it is. I thought that the Coregrafx mini was pushing it at £99 at release but to see that the Amiga mini is selling at $139 that people are paying in the U.S.A equals to around £75 in the U.K and how this Amiga mini is getting sold for £119 in the U.K to the home market and how it's not even scalpers prices, it's the recommended retail price (R.R.P). Its no real surprise that an Amiga mini would get released at some point considering the trend of mini consoles and most people realistically can't afford the money or the time to buy and play them all. So I'm content enough to sit this one out. P.S, I used to use a version of Cubase on Atari ST while I was training to be a sound engineer in the early 2000's but I suppose that's an Irrelevant point as the Atari ST was just running the sequencer program and not getting used to generate the actual sounds. I am also aware of the rivalry between Amiga and Atari ST owners back in the day so won't comment further on that at risk of making the thread a potential cesspit. 😂😂
Was excited when it was announced, and was looking forward to playing stable copies of Cannon Fodder, Syndicate and Wings [was expecting them to be on the list]. When they announced Kick Off 2 as being a pre-loaded game, the old bitterness kicked in. I'm not getting one.
Not-so-fun fact: Titus the Fox in France is called "Mokhtar's Adventures", where the fox is replaced by some random French Arab dude called, you guessed it: Mokhtar. The game is based on a song called "La Zoubida", which got to the top of French charts and is a rendition of a nursery rhyme itself called "Sur le Pont du Nord" (On the North Bridge), where a young girl asks her mother to go to a ball on a bridge, but the latter refuses. Her brother comes on a golden boat and brings the girl to the ball, only to meet their fate after the collapse of the bridge. Plot twist: "La Zoubida" is a racist version of this song, where the brother is called Mokhtar and arrives on a golden moped which he "obviously" stole because he's an Arab, and he gets sent to jail while the girl will only get scolded.
From a software perspective, it's better IMO to get something like a Pi400, install RetroPie/Batocera, and have your pick of systems and games, even dual-boot with a full Pi O/S. If you want the hardware aspect (gamepad/mouse, minified A500 with non-functioning keyboard), and just an Amiga experience, crack on...
Although not for me it's great to finally see a mini version of the Amiga for those waiting time for it. I loved Battle Chess! one of the first games I played, gfx were ace for '88. Agree with you about Paradroid '90, should've been miles better, same deal with Uridium 2 imo. Project X would've been higher. Top 9 are all great games, I reckon this is a decent starter pack for the casual Amiga fan. I've read that you can install WHDLoad too it so it's happy days, Looks good to me, nice one :)
The version of Zool on the Mini is the AGA version, and for me the screen is too busy. Also I think that Alien Breed 3D is using some of the optimisations available on THEA500 Mini and makes it a better game.
Today I discovered they're going to be releasing an amiga mini. :) Thanks youtube. I definitely won't be buying. (But here have a comment on your video.) There's nothing there that's great. Is it better than the games that came with my first ever amiga? Probably. But it's nothing that'd make me want to buy it, especially not at the price it's at. Speedball 2 is definitely my favourite out of the games too. It was so much fun playing in two player mode. I also liked the football management portion when I was a kid. Worms was good but is available on lots of other platforms. Simon the Sorcerer was a solid point and click adventure, better than some, but of all the point and click games on the amiga it wasn't one that wowed me. One of my favourite things was I could split-screen play with my sister, and could hook up two mice, or two joysticks, to play. Settlers, and 2 player lemmings were great for that. Where's all the strategy games? Strategy, and Point+Click Adventure were my favourite genres, and there's a complete lack of them there. Just a bunch of mostly mediocre games. Not a fan of Zool or Titus the Fox either. And vastly preferred Flashback over Another World.
For what it's worth the ST version is better than the Amiga for Stunt Car Racer - faster CPU gives it a higher frame rate. Us ST fans need to take the wins where we can. Aside from that I think they got an absolutely brilliant selection of games. So what if you need to plug in a USB keyboard to play the flight sim, most people will have one of them lying around. The only thing I think missing is a dungeon crawler like Captive or one of later Amiga games like Amberstar etc.
It is faster i agree, ive said it a few times in videos and am planning a link play video in the future. They both great versions but i think that the amiga has a bigger game window on stuntcar. I agree about the keyboard too...but really they shouldnt put games on that need something that dont come with the system though
The only ones I played on my Amiga 500 from the list in the early 90s were Speedball 2 and Pinball Dreams. My favourites at the time were Sim City, Sensible Soccer and Formula 1 Grand Prix. I played Paradroid and California Games on the C64. I read that it comes with a controller. Don't you need a joystick to play Speedball 2?
nah it will work with a controller. I think they have missed a trick not having Sensi on like ...I know some people who would have bout it just for that game
@@oldstylegaming its cool, i love it! Being a massive amiga demo fan, it reminds of the greats. Speaking of which, you should do a top 10 amiga demo video, see if your number 1 would be the sane as mine 😉
@@oldstylegaming And the reasons, i want to buy this console, are these games: - CALIFORNIA GAMES - THE LOST PATROL - THE SENTINEL - KICK OFF 2 - ATR: ALL TERRAIN RACER - BATTLE CHESS - PARADROID 90 - SUPER CARS II - SIMON THE SORCERER - PINBALL DREAMS - STUNT CAR RACER - CADAVER - ANOTHER WORLD - SPEEDBALL 2: BRUTAL DELUXE Get ready! 😺👍🕹️🕹️
I don't know what software you use to edit but if it supports a volume envelope, that would be a pretty easy way to get the volume from the games up to a proper level in between voice segments.
Taken on board ... i used to do that but took quite a bit time and then stopped as most people skip using the chapters that i put in. Ill start doing it again though, thanks for the constructive feedback
Great List ! However, I disliked Kick off with all of it's sequels. I think that everybody agrees that Sensible soccer was the best soccer game on Amiga. There are a few games on this list that I didn't play, but there are also superb games like ATR, Lost patrol, QWAK, Project-X SE, Alien breed SE, Super cars 2, Chaos engine, Pinball dreams, Another world and Speedball 2 that I loved playing.
I mean seriously TITUS THE FOX, A TITUS GAME OF ALL THINGS TO HAVE ON THERE, from the company that brought the internet Superman 64 to mock to oblivion.
A good selection of games that "had" to be included from the Amiga's wonderful back catalogue but some really poor inclusions too. As Psygnosis got swallowed up by Sony when they bulldozed their way into gaming and became SCEE that probably explains why none of their titles are included... In my opinion it should have been just Miggy exclusives to show why people to this day still play either on original hardware or via emulation, follow the scene and still develop for it. Battle Chess, The Lost Patrol, Paradroid '90, Qwak (I love the Bubble Bobble series and thought Qwak was a real gem) Project X SE, and everything you have included in your top 8 probably would have made my list to be fair although no matter what got included/left out will never satisfy all gaming preferences :) But why include Zool and Titus the Fox when you had Ruff N Tumble, Kid Chaos & Superfrog? ATR? I think the only other overhead vehicle game other than obviously Micro Machines worth a mention was Vison's wonderful Roadkill. Wizkid, Hunter, Fuzzball, Carrier Command, Myth, Jim Power, Gods, Disposable Hero, SWIV, Fiendish Freddy's Bit Top O Fun, The First Samurai, Hired Guns, Push Over, Cannon Fodder, Super Stardust, Turrican, Moonstone, Apidya, Batman The Movie, Extase, Fury of the Furries, Lotus Turbo Challenge II, Rick Dangerous... Far too many to list to be honest but some really quirky and fun original games just in that list that should have been considered for the short list for the end product... and why the Amiga was just so damn good :) Thanks for the video OSG :)
Never did like speedball as a game. Ik+, Flood, lemmings, silkworm, space crusade, it came from the desert, syndicate, even the public domain game Tanx 👍
I'll wait until they decide to bring out an Amiga A1200/4000 Maxi with a proper keyboard, an option to install a hard drive, the ability to install any legit version of amiga os depending on which cpu and Kickstarter versions you were emulating from 68000 to 68060 series and Kickstarter version to run, add extra ram by either emulating or installing physical ram sticks and be able to overclock the system as you obviously couldn't install an accelerator/gpu card or do you think I am asking for too much?
Mot of that is probably doable just by software upgrades, but for the sake of regular player it's better to have one predefined known working configuration for each game
How does lag affect Kick Off 2 is going to be key for that one, also whether or not you can attach a usb microswitch joystick or not. You don't have the manual dexterity on a gamepad to play Kick Off 2 and you also need the audible feedback from the microswitches in a tactile sense. Another big thing for me is how easy it will be to add and obtain more whdload games, all my Amiga games are in adf format and I never had a whdload Amiga back in the day it was all games on floppy, so... Games I need to add: Wings Moonstone Rick Dangerous IK+ Cannon Fodder Maga Lo Mania Archer Mclean's Pool Super Stardust Risky Woods Hostages Rainbow Islands Rodland Xenon 2 Boxing Manager Anco Player Manager Sensible Soccer D-Generation
Great list but one game I still haven't got my head arround or enjoyed is Speedball 2 I want to enjoy it but it just doesn't do it for me. SWOS, Cannon Fodder and Wizkid I would be very happy with if it was on the system
There was no war between SWOS and Kick off. Take it from a person that doesn't like sports games and has his favorite Amiga game being SWOS. Its like when people say there was a war between Atari ST and the Amiga. No. :)
If they could just change out zool and Titus for turrican 2 and Eye of the beholder, that would be a sweet deal. And mebbees Simon for Monkey Island and SWOS for Speedball 2.
Disappointing that not a single strategy or management game is included. I'll be adding The Settlers, Dune 2, Civilization, Theme Park, Sim City, Centurion: Defender of Rome, and whatever else I can think of when the time comes 😀 Don't think I'll bother with the mini anyway. It'll be maxi all the way for me.
@@oldstylegaming You could be right. I can't see the point in the mini to be honest. Without a keyboard I might as well just emulate. Using Amibian on my Raspberry Pi does me just fine.
Well, I can understand why Sim City is not on the base console. It's owned by EA. Getting the rights to put that on the system would have cost an arm and a leg, which would also jack up the price of the mini itself.
For me Zool & Zool 2 were some of the best games on the Amiga. However for me the biggest disgrace of the Amiga mini is that it doesn't have either of the Cannon Fodder games, Swos or Sensible golf.
Because including arcade conversions like R-Type would mean securing the rights from the owners of the original which would cost an arm and a leg, which would in turn JACK UP the price of the base unit
Missing alot of great games but at least you can sideload them to easily play them, but what I am wondering is this better then the software you can buy that emulates all the amiga versions and easily plays all the games...
One thing I should mention (and I think you touched on it too). A lot of these games are pretty much impossible to play without a joystick and keyboard unless they have updated the controls. I tried to play Alien Breed a month or 2 ago on an XBOX 360 gamepad and it was impossible, it just didn't feel right and is not how these games were supposed to be played.
yeah im looking forward to seeing how they combat that problem...i would like to think that this has had some UAT testing before being released...I dont know how F-16 can work though without having to buy a usb keyboard
@@oldstylegaming No, I only had it on the Amiga. I knew you had to somehow interface with the robot things with a little ingame but had no idea how to do it.
@@oldstylegaming I just hope it's not like that Commodore 64 console with the cartridge system where a lot of the games released required you to press the ENTER key to start the game when there wasn't one!
To many "gimmick" and party games on this selection. Granted, I spent lot of time on Pinbal dreams and Worms and such and had good time with mates, but if we are talking of that "gaming experience nostalgia feel", it is action-adventure-platform games (or adventures if you are a fan). You know, that feeling when you immerse yourself for hours invested in a game and it's lore and if co-op, it is even better. And who needs Amiga 3D games nowadays, if not only for curiosity and computer history purposes? Amiga action (platform) games hold up well even today. And apart from 3D driving games, non 3D driving games still look beautiful!
Has anyone played James Pond II (Robocod) on this mini? I have the disks but my amiga 1200 is sitting in storage since the sound went on it ages ago. This is still graphically excellent as a platformer. No idea why this and other great Amiga games haven't been remade to be honest.
Hey mate I agree with a lot of your rankings but I loved California Games so of course for me its around No. 10. Nostalgia is a powerful force and that's the main reason I preordered this. How could they not include Xenon 2 on this?
Great video.lots of positions I agree and for me speedball 2 deserves its number 1 spot Think u could of showed better footage of dragons breath as u just showed a very dull part I'm a little annoyed it's just been delayed again till mid April but good things come to those who wait I've still got my original 500 with gotek drive and use regularly For me monkey Island and indy jones adventure to be side loaded, then likes of battle squadron , lotus , r type ,apidya , and maybe even batman the movie for the racing sections
I was in Greece and Holland during the late 80's early 90's... The Amiga was THE system of choice for gamers, period, back then. I had a large collection of games... fast forward to today, its interesting to see the top 10 or the top whatever list of games for this system Its definitely based on personal tastes of course, but when a system like this A500 is released, it does seem a shame that most likely due to license issues, most of the agreed upon best games can not be included... The good news is your personal favorites can be added; I just hope the process to do so is not too difficult. TV Sports Football, Dungeon Master, Shadow Of The Beast, Lotus Esprit Turbo Challenge, Earl Weaver Baseball, Eye Of The Beholder, ANY of the "Gold Box" Dungeons and Dragon Series, Insanity Flight, Super Hang On, and so many others were graphically fantastic for the times, but gameplay wise were really far ahead of their time. THAT is why there are still so many people who love the Amiga to this day... most of the OG's from back then are 45 to 65, and still are into those games, because yes, they do bring back very fond memories... I remember going to many computer shows back then and it was all Amiga, ALL the time... Too bad piracy destroyed the sales of the system and software, but we had a wonderful time with this system. Todays consoles wipe the floor graphically of course, but there was something special about the Amiga... there still is... Take care, everyone...
A good selection of games but honestly the absence of Cinemaware, Psygnosis, Bullfrog and Core Design games is unforgivable, they were some of the biggest developers for the Amiga. Glad to see Zool last, I always considered it overrated.
i thought i would be in the minority over Zool but it seems im in the majority lol...youe it should have had wings and DotC on at least
I too found Zool a disappointment. Superfrog beat it hands down in every count. Just a pity my copy was faulty and wouldn't load the end stage. Such a pity it wasn't included...
They probably would have had to pay an arm and a leg to secure the rights to those games, which would drive the price of the base console up even more
@@juhanipolvi4729 just add it yourself.
These old titles can’t make any money now so why not just let for example this have them for next to nothing, your old title may even get some publicity and the rights sold for a newer version. Always thought why a newer version of Carrier Command was never done when the concept was so brilliant.
Would have been nice to include a Turrican game in there, but the top 10 is class.
Yeah Turrican 2 on this would have been a real treat...maybe some licensing issues with it though
Plus Banshee would've been good as well, if had that I would buy.....
Dune II. MegaTwins, Moonstone, ...
Haven't played Populus myself. Civilization, Shadow of the beast III, Colonization, ...
great to see what these games are as i never really looked an an amiga, cool to see Simon on here as it's one of my favourite games series on pc. (5 of them and a few spin offs)
I’ve spent hundreds of hours on the C64 Maxi and I always wanted an Amiga. I’ve ordered the A500 mini of course but I’m hoping a maxi version of any Amiga comes out in the future.
They already said making an "AMIGA 500 Maxi" depends on the sales of the Mini. The ploy worked. I bought it :)
lol you will end up with both now then if they do
It's like the C64 Mini then, except it's double the price.
@Okurka pre-ordered a mini as well, and hoping for a maxi in a year or twos time, I have the c64 maxi aswell excellent machine aswell
@@MrLaserlight7 The Maxi will cost more than a real Amiga 500.
I'll buy the Maxi but not the mini (at that price) - Limited budget.
Super Cars 2 is the best on that list. Nothing I loved more than dropping a mine and blowing up my friend right behind me. Great fun!
I wrote a trainer for Pinball Dreams so you could literally pick up the ball with the mouse and drag it where ever you wanted to get any bonus, there was an optional shield too that would bounce the ball back up before it went out of play.
Great video mate. I'll keep my Mini Vanilla but make a games list in Igame on my real A1200 with these ones in it. Stunt Car Racer is in my top 5 best Amiga games of all time.
it was a cracker ,hard drivin would of been another great choice
Wow stunt car racer looks great. I loved that on c64
Hey OSG, not related to this video but I just received one of the cheapo AliExpress retro mini-consoles you reviewed a while back and it kicks arse! Would never have known they existed without your video on it. Big thanks!
oh you must be one of the lucky ones... like 90% have a great experience with them including me but ive heard some real nightmare stories from a few ...my advice is get another sd card and back the original up (clone it)
F-16 Combat Pilot is a weird choice. Wasn't it one of those sims that came with a 120-page manual and keyboard overlay? Not sure you could even get the plane off the ground without keyboard controls.
I know mate thats what im wondering...how does that ever work without having to fork out more for a usb keyboard
@@oldstylegaming I suspect you simply won't be able to play it without an external keyboard. It'll be one of those games that people who loved it back in the day will play, and most other people won't bother.
@@Codetapper weird choice though dont you agree considering no keyboard being shipped with it....
You can use any keyboard with a USB guys!
What an amazing piece of work. Appreciate the time put into making this huge collection of vids👍🏼 Of course there were favourites not mentioned. Wish you could have doubled the time given for each game But like other commenters I went by studio. Anything by Team17, Psygnosis, Sensible Software and Geoff Crammond were always top notch - the music, sfx, graphics and always always gameplay were top shelf. So my top ten will always include Alien Breed, Sensible Soccer, Geoff Crammond’s F1, F18 Interceptor and that damn helicopter sim haha. One thing it’s nice to be reminded of is the absolute dominance of platform game genre at the time. I think the sheer number of them forced developers into thinking laterally and every one had it’s own quirk or character that made them unique. I wasn’t a fan of platformers but played a few anyway, but I appreciate towards the end of the Amiga’s life Nintendo was taking over and the absolute dominating and rule defining platformer was Mario. Then came Playstation and an entire industry pivoted towards the console dominated world we have today. But the Amiga era it’s fun to be reminded that we saw a lot of genre defining firsts. Dune2, the first RTS. The first really playable 3D games. The first ‘God’ games. I ended up working as a designer in the games biz and I made console games by day but played PC games by night, was more a sim gamer and action games with a cinematic flair like the class of its own Alien Breed and the Bitmap’s Chaos Engine. Thanks to all the devs out there that brought us such a diverse collection,of passion-fueled projects, some of which we actually paid for 😆Happy days!
Spot on assessment regarding Zool! Would have thought Moonstone would have been included?
imagine if Moonstone was on, I love that game..perfect party game too
Moonstone couldn't appear due to the blood/gore. The presence of it would have meant the Mini would get a higher age rating and less stockists would be interested. So it was sadly dropped. Even with the gore mode turned off, some of the big monsters still splurt blood, and that isn't easy to disable.
However, with WHDLoad support, you can easily add it yourself 👍
I can't wait to get this A500 to relive my childhood gaming memories. The line up is ok, not brilliant. However the ability to add all the games I loved is what interests me
same for me syndicate and wings of fury are the first two im gonna add
@@Wildernessoutside I can't wait, just hope it's easy to add them
@@darranparker3930 same here pal
Its a good selection of games. Yes I am sure we could easily come up with our own stock 25 list that may or may not include ones listed here but I think this list is a good representation of the styles of games the Mig had, even if in some cases they aren't the best examples of them.
agreed mate, id be happy with these out of the box
It's a pity they couldn't get turricane one and two. It seems weird not having them on there
So many good games that could've been included, though for some the legal status could be preventing inclusion to the pack.
One game I would have loved on the pack was Gem'X, but that is probably too obscure for most.
There are several games missing from this list that I remember playing a lot on the Amiga. Titles like Monkey Island 1 & 2, Day of the Tentacle, Elvira: Mistress of the dark, Elvira and the jaws of Cerberus, Beneath a steel sky and Moonstone: A hard days knight were all games I played heavily back on the Amiga 500. One more that I feel should be on there is Batman. Sure, it's just a side scrolling platformer but it came in the box with our machine. Also Defender of the Crown was synonymous with the Amiga.
Getting those games would have jacked up the price of the console tenfold, especially the Monkey Island games, when they are still making updated versions and off-shoots of those games today
Missing Rainbow Island, Lemmings, Dyna Blaster.
Putty, Turrican, Lemmings, Cannon Fodder & Lotus Esprit 2 should all have been included on this. Installing downloaded roms is a nice touch though and I'm sure people will be putting these game on the mini themselves.
I started watching the video, thinking to myself 'I'll watch until I get to Speedball 2'... Well played good sir!
Awesome video mate, looking forward to the release. Let’s hope they make a maxi!
i would probably get a maxi and put my real one in storage as its just gathering dust
@@oldstylegaming my thoughts exactly mate!
Here in the future my A500 mini is fully tricked out with Whdload and Pandory A500mini. 3,500 Amiga games alone. Great video!
Thief.
Never had a A500, and althought I still have my A600, i'm very tempted to get one of these. Was a massive fan of Speedball 2 back in the day, same for Simon The Sorcerer (aside for the disk swaps). Never played Another World, but loved Flashback so looks like I'd like Another World.. Agree with another comment here, Imagine if Moonstone was on this, that would have made it a must buy
yeah i never even thought how much better this would have been with Moonstone on
Speedball 2is my all time fav
ha ha moonstone that takes me back
Cool stuff! hopefully they release a maxi sometime.
But where's Banshee and Turrican 😔 should've included one off those I think
yeah defo should have had a turrican on
There's some great games here for sure, but i'm actually amazed that Lemmings isn't one of them, as i'm sure many other folks will be too, as the impact that that game had one me all those years ago is never forgotten, and to this day it's still awesome to play. Same can be said for Cannon Fodder really, another belter not included, and I could list so many others too, but everyone's tastes vary eh?
But as the saying goes, you cannot please all of the people all of the time, but you can of course add as many classics as you want via USB stick, and for keyboard controlled games, you can also plug in a USB keyboard!
I'm looking forward to receiving mine soon which I pre-ordered the other day, even though I already own several Amiga machines, including a souped up CD32, but this will still be a lovely little thing to own and from other videos i've seen it does look super cute 😀
Another great video OSG, keep up the great work mate!!
P.S. - No Top Banana either??? What they playing at man? 😀
I'm considering pulling trigger on this but a) wonder if they'll make a full-size version like with the C64 mini and b) perhaps wait until it's a bit cheaper.
yeah its a weird one mate...for collectors its a must have but as you say its not really practical and as you will see in this video things like Flight Sims and some other games simply cant work without a keyboard
It's way overpriced.
Good list. Some of the games that played way back then was New York Warriors, Wings, defender of the Crown and It came from the Desert. This of course is just partial list. Might and Magic 2 and 3, King's Bounty and many others. With WHDload you can play the rest of your favorites.
My Top 3-
3 - Speedball 2.
2 - Worms.
1 - Stunt Car Racer.
Will be adding all the Turricans, Creatures 1 and 2 and Lemmings, amongst many others.
Would've loved to see Syndicate, Desert Strike and Lemmings on there.
i don't know anyone that had an amiga and didn't have speedball 2, great game
Waiting for my A500 mini
Ahh man I'd forgotten about Arcade Pool. Guess what I'm playing in the morning. Great video btw.
Thanks mate, yeah Arcade pool is awesome
Silkworm, swiv battle squadron, shadow of the beasts, menace, magic pockets, mean areanas, wing commander, James pond, unreal, xenon 2 mega blast, turrican but a few of what I would love to see.
I feel like only about ten of these bundled games are still worth playing, but the easy WHDload capability makes this a fantastic mini. SWOS is still great fun even now.
Glad to see Simon and Another World in the top 3 where they belong!
Once again am late seeing this video but hey am here now. Man am so getting a mini once it's out and it's has a few nice games on it already but am going to stick as many games on it as poss lock myself in a room with a beer or 10 and play on it like it's 1992 (year i got my 1200) did have a 500 before then but loved my 1200 more. Great video as always buddy and roll on the next one, so until then take it easy buddy.
This is a solid selection, and I'm particularly happy to see WormsDC included. It's the best version of Worms, and it's a shame so few got to experience it back I'm the day. As far as I am aware, this is the first time it has been re-released in any form.
I never could see the appeal of the Amiga other than for those getting cheap pirated games from market stalls back in the 90's (which is made all the more strange as market stalls also done swap a game plus a fiver for Megadrive and SNES games also).
The Megadrive had The Chaos Engine and Speedball 2, so why would anyone bother with an Amiga?
Considering what I've just said about the Amiga's only real USP in the 90's it's also Ironic that the type of kids that had an Amiga back then were also the type of kids that did well at maths and were probably going to grow up to become accountants, bookkeepers or estate agents etc but they seemingly couldn't care less about indulging in software piracy. 😂😂
@@bigbabatunde1218 Dude, the Amiga was amazing. :) For one thing, it was a fully fledged computer, with a powerful, properly multitasking OS. The hardware was far superior to contemporary home computers, at a fraction of the price. Most people I knew used it purely as a games machine, though. It was amazing for that too, with an enormous library, probably around 4000-6000 games. Obviously, not all of these were of great quality, but many were, and there was an amazing amount of variety, as the Amiga had numerous good games in just about every genre you could think of. As you say, piracy was extremely rampant, though. I'm guessing it may have helped the platform's popularity a bit, but it must have hurt it's commercial viability a bunch also, especially towards the end.
Ultimately, the Amiga platform suffered from stagnation and mismanagement, but for about a decade, it was an amazing platform. :)
@@TheSwiftFalcon From a computer point of view, what you say may very well be true but I never heard any of the kids at school back then talk about how they were amazed at Deluxe Paint or whatever.
I (no doubt as many others) have absolutely no idea what the Amiga was like for more formal computing tasks but it was always an annoyance to me (a non Amiga owner) that a lot of games seemingly couldn't run in game music AND sound FX together. More a sign of a struggling computer than an amazing one.
The inclusion of a mouse with the Amiga mini seems pretty cool though even though I do suspect that it will be very limited in its modern day practicality.
I don't have any specific problem with the Amiga mini being a thing, just disappointed that it's not the draw for me that other mini's have been over recent years. (Maybe disappointed is the wrong word as it should be relief as I now don't have to find space to set up and plug yet another device in to the TV).
@@bigbabatunde1218 I would humbly suggest that the awareness of Deluxe Paint among the kids at your school may not be an accurate measure of how good the Amiga was as a platform. :-) Different people used the Amiga for different things, including productivity stuff like graphics and music production (although the Atari ST is more well known for this), and general computing and office tasks. If you compare it to the computers at the time, the Amiga came out with 4096 colour graphics and 4 8-bit PCM sound channels at a time when PCs and Macs at several times the price typically provided EGA graphics and PC speaker noises. It was a massive leap forwards. This was in 1985. Comparing it to the Mega Drive, I think we should take into consideration that it was a dedicated games machine, released more than 3 years later.
The A500 mini isn't just a capable of emulating the Amiga 500, though, it just as easily emulates later Amigas like the Amiga 1200 and CD32. Unlike most "minis", it is also set up to let you easily add your own games. The mouse is a useful inclusion, as a bunch of Amiga games used that as its primary control method. As I mentioned, the Amiga was home to numerous games in every genre, including mostly mouse driven things like strategy games, business sims and point-and-click adventures. A couple of the most iconic Amiga games, Lemmings (all 9 million versions) and Cannon Fodder are examples of games which benefit from mouse control.
Of course, the Mini-computers/consoles are all about nostalgia, and if you don't have the nostalgia for Amiga computers, the A500 mini is probably not for you. :-) I completely understand this. For me it's the opposite though, the A500 mini is the first "mini" I've been interested in. This is in part because of my own massive nostalgia for the platform, in part because I love so many games in the Amiga library, and finally, because it lets you add your own games. The 25 included games are just a small sample of what's available, and TH-cam is full of suggestions for what to add these days.
@@TheSwiftFalcon You talk a good a game with no doubt a few valid points, especially the nostalgia factor associated for those who grew up with it.
I've been interested in almost every mini that's been released but have only bought a few. I never grew up with the P.C Engine for example but was impressed with the old school shmups that were included on the Coregrafx mini as they exceeded my expectations as I genuinely didn't know how impressive they were for the time.
Even At Games stuff is pretty interesting despite the abuse they have received for their products over the years.
I like games of various sorts but for some reason I've never warmed to the Amiga or its games. I probably would have bought this but to me not only does the games look pretty dull (similar to the PlayStation mini's standard of game line up) it's also quite expensive for what it is.
I thought that the Coregrafx mini was pushing it at £99 at release but to see that the Amiga mini is selling at $139 that people are paying in the U.S.A equals to around £75 in the U.K and how this Amiga mini is getting sold for £119 in the U.K to the home market and how it's not even scalpers prices, it's the recommended retail price (R.R.P).
Its no real surprise that an Amiga mini would get released at some point considering the trend of mini consoles and most people realistically can't afford the money or the time to buy and play them all.
So I'm content enough to sit this one out.
P.S, I used to use a version of Cubase on Atari ST while I was training to be a sound engineer in the early 2000's but I suppose that's an Irrelevant point as the Atari ST was just running the sequencer program and not getting used to generate the actual sounds.
I am also aware of the rivalry between Amiga and Atari ST owners back in the day so won't comment further on that at risk of making the thread a potential cesspit. 😂😂
Was excited when it was announced, and was looking forward to playing stable copies of Cannon Fodder, Syndicate and Wings [was expecting them to be on the list]. When they announced Kick Off 2 as being a pre-loaded game, the old bitterness kicked in. I'm not getting one.
cool profile pic
you can play wings on your phone
Simon's graphics 👌
Totally agree with you about Zool
"I'm sure many mams and dads will rope their kids into playing it, and they WILL enjoy it." - Sounds like a threat to me XD
i never had an amiga but i want to buy one of these, just for something different
I can't beleive they didn't add robocop side scrolling game. I spent majority of childhood playing that game.
Theres actually a remake of robocop in development for the amiga..it looks class
Besides the odd one or two games for me personally it's a very poor selection of games.
The good news is you can add your own.
i think the top 10 are all class though
Not-so-fun fact: Titus the Fox in France is called "Mokhtar's Adventures", where the fox is replaced by some random French Arab dude called, you guessed it: Mokhtar.
The game is based on a song called "La Zoubida", which got to the top of French charts and is a rendition of a nursery rhyme itself called "Sur le Pont du Nord" (On the North Bridge), where a young girl asks her mother to go to a ball on a bridge, but the latter refuses. Her brother comes on a golden boat and brings the girl to the ball, only to meet their fate after the collapse of the bridge.
Plot twist: "La Zoubida" is a racist version of this song, where the brother is called Mokhtar and arrives on a golden moped which he "obviously" stole because he's an Arab, and he gets sent to jail while the girl will only get scolded.
Haha, I laughed more at this than I should. But an interesting bit of trivia.
Why did Titus make a game of this? :D
No Wings? No King of Chicago? No Nuclear War? I wish it shipped with another 25 games. So many titles to add!
Kick Off 2 still the best football game ever made
From a software perspective, it's better IMO to get something like a Pi400, install RetroPie/Batocera, and have your pick of systems and games, even dual-boot with a full Pi O/S. If you want the hardware aspect (gamepad/mouse, minified A500 with non-functioning keyboard), and just an Amiga experience, crack on...
Although not for me it's great to finally see a mini version of the Amiga for those waiting time for it. I loved Battle Chess! one of the first games I played, gfx were ace for '88. Agree with you about Paradroid '90, should've been miles better, same deal with Uridium 2 imo. Project X would've been higher. Top 9 are all great games, I reckon this is a decent starter pack for the casual Amiga fan. I've read that you can install WHDLoad too it so it's happy days, Looks good to me, nice one :)
Expensive though mate when you think of the things ive sent you that do the same thing for a quarter of the price
@@oldstylegaming did you mention the price? If so I missed it, what they asking for one?
The version of Zool on the Mini is the AGA version, and for me the screen is too busy. Also I think that Alien Breed 3D is using some of the optimisations available on THEA500 Mini and makes it a better game.
Today I discovered they're going to be releasing an amiga mini. :) Thanks youtube. I definitely won't be buying. (But here have a comment on your video.)
There's nothing there that's great. Is it better than the games that came with my first ever amiga? Probably. But it's nothing that'd make me want to buy it, especially not at the price it's at.
Speedball 2 is definitely my favourite out of the games too. It was so much fun playing in two player mode. I also liked the football management portion when I was a kid. Worms was good but is available on lots of other platforms. Simon the Sorcerer was a solid point and click adventure, better than some, but of all the point and click games on the amiga it wasn't one that wowed me.
One of my favourite things was I could split-screen play with my sister, and could hook up two mice, or two joysticks, to play. Settlers, and 2 player lemmings were great for that.
Where's all the strategy games? Strategy, and Point+Click Adventure were my favourite genres, and there's a complete lack of them there. Just a bunch of mostly mediocre games. Not a fan of Zool or Titus the Fox either. And vastly preferred Flashback over Another World.
Stunt Car racer is the best on the list. Its the only game that actually holds well even playing it today, because it was so unique and fun to play.
Everyone is passionate about which Amiga game was best.
Number 1 - Kick Off 2.
For what it's worth the ST version is better than the Amiga for Stunt Car Racer - faster CPU gives it a higher frame rate. Us ST fans need to take the wins where we can.
Aside from that I think they got an absolutely brilliant selection of games. So what if you need to plug in a USB keyboard to play the flight sim, most people will have one of them lying around.
The only thing I think missing is a dungeon crawler like Captive or one of later Amiga games like Amberstar etc.
It is faster i agree, ive said it a few times in videos and am planning a link play video in the future. They both great versions but i think that the amiga has a bigger game window on stuntcar. I agree about the keyboard too...but really they shouldnt put games on that need something that dont come with the system though
Also you can take wings of death and lethal xcess as wins for the ST too
My fav are 😏
1. The Lost patrol
2. The Chaos engine
3. Pinball Dreams
The only ones I played on my Amiga 500 from the list in the early 90s were Speedball 2 and Pinball Dreams. My favourites at the time were Sim City, Sensible Soccer and Formula 1 Grand Prix. I played Paradroid and California Games on the C64.
I read that it comes with a controller. Don't you need a joystick to play Speedball 2?
nah it will work with a controller. I think they have missed a trick not having Sensi on like ...I know some people who would have bout it just for that game
Great video and im looking forward to getting mine…i have to ask though, how did you do the bouncy scroller at the beginning 😁👍?
So codetapper the guy behind many whdloads made me a editable cracktro. Thats running on an amiga i just mount it as a hardfile
@@oldstylegaming its cool, i love it! Being a massive amiga demo fan, it reminds of the greats. Speaking of which, you should do a top 10 amiga demo video, see if your number 1 would be the sane as mine 😉
8:50 sounds like a master system game lol
Even though i have the original Amiga 500 computer, i'm still waiting to get the mini console, when it arrives to Finland 🇫🇮.
😺👍🕹️
exciting times
@@oldstylegaming And the reasons, i want to buy this console, are these games:
- CALIFORNIA GAMES
- THE LOST PATROL
- THE SENTINEL
- KICK OFF 2
- ATR: ALL TERRAIN RACER
- BATTLE CHESS
- PARADROID 90
- SUPER CARS II
- SIMON THE SORCERER
- PINBALL DREAMS
- STUNT CAR RACER
- CADAVER
- ANOTHER WORLD
- SPEEDBALL 2: BRUTAL DELUXE
Get ready! 😺👍🕹️🕹️
Why? A Rasperyy Pi can do more than the mini.
I would load up Lemmings/Lemmings 2 & Great Giana Sisters!
Thanks for reviewing the games on the A500 Mini. You mentioned something about the KB for F16. Is it too small?
lol the keyboard isnt a functioning keyboard mate its just for show
@@oldstylegaming Lawl.
Slam Tilt is the best pinball on the Amiga, by far! ^
I'd want Eye of the beholder, and Warlords on there
I don't know what software you use to edit but if it supports a volume envelope, that would be a pretty easy way to get the volume from the games up to a proper level in between voice segments.
Taken on board ... i used to do that but took quite a bit time and then stopped as most people skip using the chapters that i put in. Ill start doing it again though, thanks for the constructive feedback
I remember some of these games in ports for my old 486 computer. This is quite interesting, how much does this mini cost?
£119.99
Great List ! However, I disliked Kick off with all of it's sequels. I think that everybody agrees that Sensible soccer was the best soccer game on Amiga. There are a few games on this list that I didn't play, but there are also superb games like ATR, Lost patrol, QWAK, Project-X SE, Alien breed SE, Super cars 2, Chaos engine, Pinball dreams, Another world and Speedball 2 that I loved playing.
An absolute stellar collection of games
I would guess that it will support 3rd party usb controllers and joysticks
@@oldstylegaming I've some old joysticks at my parents', would be a true nostalgy trip to get them working via a dongle.
Love a good pinball game 👌 Buckled at the wife's breath comment 🤣
I mean seriously TITUS THE FOX, A TITUS GAME OF ALL THINGS TO HAVE ON THERE, from the company that brought the internet Superman 64 to mock to oblivion.
A good selection of games that "had" to be included from the Amiga's wonderful back catalogue but some really poor inclusions too. As Psygnosis got swallowed up by Sony when they bulldozed their way into gaming and became SCEE that probably explains why none of their titles are included...
In my opinion it should have been just Miggy exclusives to show why people to this day still play either on original hardware or via emulation, follow the scene and still develop for it.
Battle Chess, The Lost Patrol, Paradroid '90, Qwak (I love the Bubble Bobble series and thought Qwak was a real gem) Project X SE, and everything you have included in your top 8 probably would have made my list to be fair although no matter what got included/left out will never satisfy all gaming preferences :)
But why include Zool and Titus the Fox when you had Ruff N Tumble, Kid Chaos & Superfrog?
ATR? I think the only other overhead vehicle game other than obviously Micro Machines worth a mention was Vison's wonderful Roadkill.
Wizkid, Hunter, Fuzzball, Carrier Command, Myth, Jim Power, Gods, Disposable Hero, SWIV, Fiendish Freddy's Bit Top O Fun, The First Samurai, Hired Guns, Push Over, Cannon Fodder, Super Stardust, Turrican, Moonstone, Apidya, Batman The Movie, Extase, Fury of the Furries, Lotus Turbo Challenge II, Rick Dangerous... Far too many to list to be honest but some really quirky and fun original games just in that list that should have been considered for the short list for the end product... and why the Amiga was just so damn good :)
Thanks for the video OSG :)
Never did like speedball as a game.
Ik+, Flood, lemmings, silkworm, space crusade, it came from the desert, syndicate, even the public domain game Tanx 👍
I'll wait until they decide to bring out an Amiga A1200/4000 Maxi with a proper keyboard, an option to install a hard drive, the ability to install any legit version of amiga os depending on which cpu and Kickstarter versions you were emulating from 68000 to 68060 series and Kickstarter version to run, add extra ram by either emulating or installing physical ram sticks and be able to overclock the system as you obviously couldn't install an accelerator/gpu card or do you think I am asking for too much?
Mot of that is probably doable just by software upgrades, but for the sake of regular player it's better to have one predefined known working configuration for each game
How does lag affect Kick Off 2 is going to be key for that one, also whether or not you can attach a usb microswitch joystick or not. You don't have the manual dexterity on a gamepad to play Kick Off 2 and you also need the audible feedback from the microswitches in a tactile sense.
Another big thing for me is how easy it will be to add and obtain more whdload games, all my Amiga games are in adf format and I never had a whdload Amiga back in the day it was all games on floppy, so...
Games I need to add:
Wings
Moonstone
Rick Dangerous
IK+
Cannon Fodder
Maga Lo Mania
Archer Mclean's Pool
Super Stardust
Risky Woods
Hostages
Rainbow Islands
Rodland
Xenon 2
Boxing Manager
Anco Player Manager
Sensible Soccer
D-Generation
Great list but one game I still haven't got my head arround or enjoyed is Speedball 2 I want to enjoy it but it just doesn't do it for me. SWOS, Cannon Fodder and Wizkid I would be very happy with if it was on the system
I was like that with speed ball 2 when i first played it but persevered mostly in multiplayer and became good
Kind of wish Hybris was on there. That was one of my most played Amiga games
There was no war between SWOS and Kick off.
Take it from a person that doesn't like sports games and has his favorite Amiga game being SWOS.
Its like when people say there was a war between Atari ST and the Amiga. No. :)
I didnt say there was a war.... i said you liked one or the other
Dragon's breath comment - Did you really just say that?
yeah but dont tell my wife lol
@@oldstylegaming I wouldn't dare tell Smaug
Love me some Simon the Sorcerer. Too bad they never made a Part III to wrap up the story. (*cough*)
Very harsh on Qwak. Nicely replayable arcade games are something this kind of unit needs. And that’s very much a nicely replayable arcade game.
Its not a terrible game its just not for me mate
Wish they put one or two RPGs on there as well. Dungeon Master would have been nice
If they could just change out zool and Titus for turrican 2 and Eye of the beholder, that would be a sweet deal. And mebbees Simon for Monkey Island and SWOS for Speedball 2.
Disappointing that not a single strategy or management game is included.
I'll be adding The Settlers, Dune 2, Civilization, Theme Park, Sim City, Centurion: Defender of Rome, and whatever else I can think of when the time comes 😀
Don't think I'll bother with the mini anyway. It'll be maxi all the way for me.
I honestly dont think this will sell enough to trigger the maxi... i think the price is way too high especially in the current economic environment
@@oldstylegaming You could be right. I can't see the point in the mini to be honest. Without a keyboard I might as well just emulate. Using Amibian on my Raspberry Pi does me just fine.
Well, I can understand why Sim City is not on the base console. It's owned by EA. Getting the rights to put that on the system would have cost an arm and a leg, which would also jack up the price of the mini itself.
For me Zool & Zool 2 were some of the best games on the Amiga. However for me the biggest disgrace of the Amiga mini is that it doesn't have either of the Cannon Fodder games, Swos or Sensible golf.
Yeah cant believe swos isnt on as stock
Team 17 sponsors the à mini 500 ??
R type ?? Flashback ?? Double dragon ?? Moonstone ? Thé rissing of the Sun ? Morteville Manor ?etc
I hope you mean double dragon 2 ....
Because including arcade conversions like R-Type would mean securing the rights from the owners of the original which would cost an arm and a leg, which would in turn JACK UP the price of the base unit
I preferred pinball fantasies, on the whole, to pinball dreams.
Missing alot of great games but at least you can sideload them to easily play them, but what I am wondering is this better then the software you can buy that emulates all the amiga versions and easily plays all the games...
I had Paradroid 90 back in the day I had no fukin clue what I was supposed to be doing and believe me, I tried haha!
One thing I should mention (and I think you touched on it too). A lot of these games are pretty much impossible to play without a joystick and keyboard unless they have updated the controls. I tried to play Alien Breed a month or 2 ago on an XBOX 360 gamepad and it was impossible, it just didn't feel right and is not how these games were supposed to be played.
yeah im looking forward to seeing how they combat that problem...i would like to think that this has had some UAT testing before being released...I dont know how F-16 can work though without having to buy a usb keyboard
Did you not play Paradroid on the C64?
@@oldstylegaming No, I only had it on the Amiga. I knew you had to somehow interface with the robot things with a little ingame but had no idea how to do it.
@@oldstylegaming I just hope it's not like that Commodore 64 console with the cartridge system where a lot of the games released required you to press the ENTER key to start the game when there wasn't one!
6:40 LOL "wife's breath ....."
Your right about Zool. All graphics and no game play
To many "gimmick" and party games on this selection. Granted, I spent lot of time on Pinbal dreams and Worms and such and had good time with mates, but if we are talking of that "gaming experience nostalgia feel", it is action-adventure-platform games (or adventures if you are a fan). You know, that feeling when you immerse yourself for hours invested in a game and it's lore and if co-op, it is even better. And who needs Amiga 3D games nowadays, if not only for curiosity and computer history purposes? Amiga action (platform) games hold up well even today. And apart from 3D driving games, non 3D driving games still look beautiful!
Simon the sorcerer = Harry Potter. Battle Chess = chess game in first Harry Potter film.
Has anyone played James Pond II (Robocod) on this mini? I have the disks but my amiga 1200 is sitting in storage since the sound went on it ages ago. This is still graphically excellent as a platformer. No idea why this and other great Amiga games haven't been remade to be honest.
I was a SWOS guy. I could never control Kick off and I only knew a few people that could. It seemed completely unplayable to me.
Its hard at the start
Is Defender Of The Crown included with the mini?
No ..... in fact no Cinemaware games ...
Hey mate I agree with a lot of your rankings but I loved California Games so of course for me its around No. 10. Nostalgia is a powerful force and that's the main reason I preordered this. How could they not include Xenon 2 on this?
Well its bitmap brothers so i dont see why there wasnt more bitmap bros games on ...
Might get this purely for Paradroid 90
Very nice 👍
No 'Cannon Fodder'? Or 'Sensible Soccer'? I too would have loved a 'Monkey Island' game. Pretty underwhelmed at the line up of games on offer.
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Iconic that phrase
Great video.lots of positions I agree and for me speedball 2 deserves its number 1 spot
Think u could of showed better footage of dragons breath as u just showed a very dull part
I'm a little annoyed it's just been delayed again till mid April but good things come to those who wait
I've still got my original 500 with gotek drive and use regularly
For me monkey Island and indy jones adventure to be side loaded, then likes of battle squadron , lotus , r type ,apidya , and maybe even batman the movie for the racing sections
Sorry about that footage mate i was just quickly cutting 35 secs out of my recordings