At age 73 and with arthritis issues in both hands I am finding it more difficult to play my long scale basses and have switched over to short scales and I'm finding that I really enjoy them. I have already acquired a nice collection of both solid and hollow body short scales. This base has been on my radar but I haven't really taken the plunge yet but I think I may have to do that soon after listening to your great review thanks for posting it.
Very nice Ed. Glad you took out the foam for the back half. Been interested in this bass since announcement. And just picked up an L1000. So there's some inevitability here.
Played the launch edition at SNAMM last year. Such a great bass with way too few demos. This, the Wattplower, and Serek Midwestern are the best short scales I've played. As a guitarist/bassist, I'm pleased the short scale market is getting more crowded. Thanks for all the great content, Ed!
I’ve got my Tangerine Fullerton Deluxe Fallout on its way as I write … should be here on Thursday. This review played a big part in me pulling the trigger. So thanks a lot!
Great review. That bass sounds awesome. Especially with the tone rolled all off, getting goose bumps. I would love to see you review the Serek Midwestern as well. How would you compare it?
G&L should take this format and add a 30" 6 string neck (a la Fender Bass VI) and call it the Fallout Bass VI. I know Leo Fender was working on something like this on his bench right before he died. It would be nice if the string spacing was a little wider than the Bass VI though. Just an idea. G&L, are you listening?
Hopefully at some point the pickguard design team at G&L will rise to the challenge. In the meantime, fans of Jane Jetson, Bewitched, and 60's women's hairstyles in general must be thrilled.
I just picked one up. I’m a guitar player, so I’ve never really had a legit bass. My only bass before this, was an Ibanez x-series. This sounds way better.
Concern as I almost always use a pick! Otherwise this Bass looks amazing!! I assumed since the pickup is in the middle, I wouldn't hit the pickups while picking and muting. The toggle switch is great!! I like less knobs. It's G & L !! My other choice was the Music Man Sterling Stingray Short Scale, but I like the pickup position, bridge and toggle switch on the G & L. Hopefully this bass will allow me to get some tasty Chris Squire sounds.
@@mikespringer2659 Yes. It is amazing. The recorded tones are great. Works great with a pick. Only drawbacks for me are it's a bit heavy and long (for a short scale), and Drop D is a little flabby. But short scales are notorious for Drop D challenges. Overall, it's a phenomenal Bass.
@@geoffreymerrifield5666 Nice! Thanks for the reply. Did you get the tribute, or go with the America made version? I'm seeing a lot of reviews that make it seem the quality difference maybe isn't enough to warrant the price difference and I'm trying to decide whether to go tribute or American made.
@@mikespringer2659 Tribute. Have to share my limited funds with Studio gear, guitar, drums, keys, vocal stuff. Never tried the American version. I bought a Sterling Stingray Short Scale $599 at the same time, and chose the G&L. Wanted to love the Sterling, cause it's lighter and smaller, but it just didn't have the feel, power and tone of the G&L.
Your tone sounds SO good on this bass with the foam in place. What kind of foam do you use for that? Love all your playing here, this has me looking for a Fallout bass now.
Thanks! I love this bass. The foam… is just random stuff I find. The dark gray stuff is from packaging, the blue and yellow stuff are scraps from the craft store. It’s about finding a density and softness that works for you.
They are similarly set up, but the 30 vs. 34 scale is a significant difference. Also, the L1000 has the B/T boost tone controls like the L2000, the Fallout is just a single tone pot... I prefer the B/T personally. That would be the only mod I'd do, but the jack would have to go on the side.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but do you need shorter scale strings on a 30" bass? Or can you use the same strings as on a 34" scale bass? Sounds great by the way, and that slap tone is just killer.
Not a stupid question at all! Yes, you do need short scale strings for 30". A standard length string will have the silk too far up to wrap around the post.
Is that one of the G&L Tribute models? The USA versions that I’ve seen have a goofy looking racing stripe on the lower bout. Not a fan. I’d love to hear your take on the new USA Sting Ray short scale bass that recently came out.
i know that bass line at the beginning... isn't that the line foley was playing on the gig with the chris dave trio and zhenya strigalev on sax? or is it from somewhere else?
I love G&l and own two basses. Both of them needed shims which was really annoying. I like low, modern action and a fast motown style like you. Did your Fallout Bass need a shim? Leo designed those super tall saddles with a micro tilt in tandem. They removed the micro tilt but kept those super tall saddles. Consequently, if the board is sanded even a little underset, you're in shim town. Some G&L's don't need it and some do. I get unlucky. What about you?
This bass, and most of the G&Ls I've played in recent years didn't need shims, but then I don't go for super low action. Now, virtually every Fender I've ever owned needed a shim.
@@BassWhispererTV yes I do set up pretty low. like .010'' relief and 4/64th-3/64th for bass. I have a similar playing style to you. It's crazy how fast and fluid you can be with medium action. I feel like I need it low to keep it smooth and fast but then again I've only been seriously playing for a couple years. Funny I've only had one or two Fenders that needed shims. The saddles are so short the board would have to be sanded SUPER underset to need a shim on a Fender. I know their QC is all over the map depending on the year though. I guess I got really unlucky with my Saddle locks. Thanks for the reply!
I am looking for a Short-scale Bass. I've narrowed it down to 3 choices: G&L, Fender Mustang PJ or the Music Man Sterling Sting-ray. Any input from someone who familiar with all 3 ?
i know that the toggle switch on the mustang pj has rather low quality, i played it and it kinda sounded like a p bass, maybe a LITTLE bit muddier but that's all i know
Well, I'm VERY partial to the Fallout, it's a beast! The Mustangs are nice, but I'm not a fan of those pickups. Haven't tried the short scale MM, sounds intriguing.
It's an early production model, they'll be offered in a short while, same bass as the current intro version with the racing stripes... but they were out of those. I like the pink!
Bass Whisperer TV I agree the pink is one of shell pink looking retro fender colors. The racing strip isn’t my favorite I know it’s a mustang look but GL doesn’t need to go that route :)
They can do both with and without the stripe. I’m hoping to see a candy apple red with the stripe and even more, I’m hoping to see it offered with the old school head stock.
just convinced a friend to buy one after reading/hearing lots of good things about those... might have been a mistake because I already know that I´m gonna be jealous that I didn´t get one myself 😂
After watching your videos and ended up buying the tribute version as my first short scale and I love it! Thanks for the awesome video review it definitely helped with my decision. What gauge of Daddario chromes do you use on it?
Fine sound. G&L should make a "wunkay edition", with mahogany body, ebony board, and bass/treble/volume controls, 3-way toggle. Lots more sounds, ability to fine-tune both bass and treble, which is really useful. And lose the racing stripes-- not a great intro feature there, those are pretty ugly (opinion) plus have a "kids' bass", "less than pro" vibe. Selling this bass way short.
Well, I think they just wanted it to be simpler. I do prefer the 1K-style eq, but I'd probably go with Series instead of OMG. I like OMG, but Series is not that much different to my ear, and no single-coil hum.
@@BassWhispererTV When my Wunkay was new in '81 I had a Country (old school even then) gig. OMG setting, adjust the bass and treble knobs to my best guess for the small-medium rooms we were playing, achieve "happiness" with a Music Man HD130 and 1-15" RH folded-horn port cab. Yes... picky, picky, PICKY!!! Thanks!
@@BassWhispererTV Thank you for the recommendation, I just put some on my G&L Fallout. They play with amazing smoothness, makes my fingers feel like they are sitting in a soft fine leather chair
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I keep coming back for more!
Your groove is out of this world....
Why this demo isn’t on the G&L site is beyond me. I want all the short scale basses but this one is particularly high on my list.
I love that you said "It sounds like a chocolate bar", and I knew exactly what you meant! I love all the different ways we describe bass tones
At age 73 and with arthritis issues in both hands I am finding it more difficult to play my long scale basses and have switched over to short scales and I'm finding that I really enjoy them. I have already acquired a nice collection of both solid and hollow body short scales. This base has been on my radar but I haven't really taken the plunge yet but I think I may have to do that soon after listening to your great review thanks for posting it.
miss your reviews man.. and that is one helluva bass !
Very nice Ed. Glad you took out the foam for the back half. Been interested in this bass since announcement. And just picked up an L1000. So there's some inevitability here.
Thank you Mr Whisperer, enjoyed that very much!
Played the launch edition at SNAMM last year. Such a great bass with way too few demos. This, the Wattplower, and Serek Midwestern are the best short scales I've played. As a guitarist/bassist, I'm pleased the short scale market is getting more crowded. Thanks for all the great content, Ed!
Damn! Really well-defined tone. Cool Ed. Cool.
I’ve got my Tangerine Fullerton Deluxe Fallout on its way as I write … should be here on Thursday. This review played a big part in me pulling the trigger. So thanks a lot!
Great shape, great sound.
G&L USA = awesomeness pretty much always🔥
Wonderful demo, Ed! What a delicious tone.
Many thanks!
great sounding bass
G&l should be more we’ll known.great stuff
Great demo Ed! You are an excellent ambassador of the G&L brand.
I saw you play that and your chadwick last weekend at Knuckleheads in Kansas City. The show was great and it was awesome seeing you play in person!
Thanks! The Chadwick has been all over with me, still sounds great.
It sounds really nice!!!!!!
I want to buy every bass Ed demos... this is no exception.
Great review. That bass sounds awesome. Especially with the tone rolled all off, getting goose bumps. I would love to see you review the Serek Midwestern as well. How would you compare it?
Check out my video Road Report NYC. I play the Serek Midwestern in the middle of it... you can tell what I think right away!
This bass whisperer is the real deal.
Great review as always, though I would have loved to hear it with played fingerstyle without the foam mute.
Maybe a motown beast. Thank you for sharing your review of G&L !
You have magic fingers too ! It helps to appreciate the sound of instruments. ;-)
G&L should take this format and add a 30" 6 string neck (a la Fender Bass VI) and call it the Fallout Bass VI. I know Leo Fender was working on something like this on his bench right before he died. It would be nice if the string spacing was a little wider than the Bass VI though. Just an idea. G&L, are you listening?
Hopefully at some point the pickguard design team at G&L will rise to the challenge. In the meantime, fans of Jane Jetson, Bewitched, and 60's women's hairstyles in general must be thrilled.
How this comment didn't get a thousand likes os beyond me 😅😅😅
Tone for days. Great review.
i love your videos ed!
Wow!
I've had bass guitars for 40 years and I'm still unimaginably shit. Watching talent like this, whatever the instrument, is awe-inspiring.
Always dig your reviews; I know short scales are all the rage lately, but I'm gonna stick with the L-1000!
Hi Ed, i love watching you review basses, any plans to demo a G&L Kiloton in the near future? I'd love to hear you play a fretless one 😋.
I just picked one up. I’m a guitar player, so I’ve never really had a legit bass. My only bass before this, was an Ibanez x-series. This sounds way better.
Dammm son.... Nice chops
Gorgeous, creamy sound. Even creamier playing!! Thanks Ed!
Yes!
Concern as I almost always use a pick! Otherwise this Bass looks amazing!! I assumed since the pickup is in the middle, I wouldn't hit the pickups while picking and muting. The toggle switch is great!! I like less knobs. It's G & L !! My other choice was the Music Man Sterling Stingray Short Scale, but I like the pickup position, bridge and toggle switch on the G & L. Hopefully this bass will allow me to get some tasty Chris Squire sounds.
Geoffery, did you get a Fallout? I'm also concerned as I also primarily play pick style. How'd it work out for you?
@@mikespringer2659 Yes. It is amazing. The recorded tones are great. Works great with a pick. Only drawbacks for me are it's a bit heavy and long (for a short scale), and Drop D is a little flabby. But short scales are notorious for Drop D challenges. Overall, it's a phenomenal Bass.
@@geoffreymerrifield5666 Nice! Thanks for the reply. Did you get the tribute, or go with the America made version? I'm seeing a lot of reviews that make it seem the quality difference maybe isn't enough to warrant the price difference and I'm trying to decide whether to go tribute or American made.
@@mikespringer2659 Tribute. Have to share my limited funds with Studio gear, guitar, drums, keys, vocal stuff. Never tried the American version. I bought a Sterling Stingray Short Scale $599 at the same time, and chose the G&L. Wanted to love the Sterling, cause it's lighter and smaller, but it just didn't have the feel, power and tone of the G&L.
Your tone sounds SO good on this bass with the foam in place. What kind of foam do you use for that? Love all your playing here, this has me looking for a Fallout bass now.
Thanks! I love this bass. The foam… is just random stuff I find. The dark gray stuff is from packaging, the blue and yellow stuff are scraps from the craft store. It’s about finding a density and softness that works for you.
Please make a Tribute version of this, I don't care what colour.
ewetoo Amen! $1700 is too rich for my blood.
Tributes are out or coming out
@@salamatpoo Tributes are out.
I think the humbucking mode sounds great.
Would you maybe consider a comparison between fallout and l-1000?.....
Not sure about the looks but sounds very nice.
Really enjoy playing. You could easily be a Motown session player! 👍🏾🙏🏿
Well, I learned a lot listening to them... thanks!
Hi sir...how's this compare to l1000 clf ?
They are similarly set up, but the 30 vs. 34 scale is a significant difference. Also, the L1000 has the B/T boost tone controls like the L2000, the Fallout is just a single tone pot... I prefer the B/T personally. That would be the only mod I'd do, but the jack would have to go on the side.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but do you need shorter scale strings on a 30" bass? Or can you use the same strings as on a 34" scale bass? Sounds great by the way, and that slap tone is just killer.
Not a stupid question at all! Yes, you do need short scale strings for 30". A standard length string will have the silk too far up to wrap around the post.
@@BassWhispererTV Thanks for explaining that. Love your video's and your playing skills.
Is that one of the G&L Tribute models? The USA versions that I’ve seen have a goofy looking racing stripe on the lower bout. Not a fan. I’d love to hear your take on the new USA Sting Ray short scale bass that recently came out.
No, there are no Tribute models of this yet. This was a second run, not the intro run with the stripes.
There are tribute models out on this bass - Sweetwater is the only one that is selling them. You have to order.
have you tried the JMJ mustang?
No, it looks cool, but I'm not a fan of that pickup.
i know that bass line at the beginning... isn't that the line foley was playing on the gig with the chris dave trio and zhenya strigalev on sax? or is it from somewhere else?
Does it come with that awesome piece of rubber under the strings?
That cost extra!
Bass Whisperer TV - haha... cheers!
I love G&l and own two basses. Both of them needed shims which was really annoying. I like low, modern action and a fast motown style like you. Did your Fallout Bass need a shim?
Leo designed those super tall saddles with a micro tilt in tandem. They removed the micro tilt but kept those super tall saddles. Consequently, if the board is sanded even a little underset, you're in shim town. Some G&L's don't need it and some do. I get unlucky.
What about you?
This bass, and most of the G&Ls I've played in recent years didn't need shims, but then I don't go for super low action. Now, virtually every Fender I've ever owned needed a shim.
@@BassWhispererTV yes I do set up pretty low. like .010'' relief and 4/64th-3/64th for bass. I have a similar playing style to you. It's crazy how fast and fluid you can be with medium action. I feel like I need it low to keep it smooth and fast but then again I've only been seriously playing for a couple years.
Funny I've only had one or two Fenders that needed shims. The saddles are so short the board would have to be sanded SUPER underset to need a shim on a Fender. I know their QC is all over the map depending on the year though.
I guess I got really unlucky with my Saddle locks. Thanks for the reply!
Sounds great! G&L makes superb stuff 😍 Looks like a lot of brands are bringing out shorties lately 🤔
I see you’re rocking the Nordstrand Starlifter. What do you think about it?
Awesome!
@@BassWhispererTV thought about throwwing one on a stripped down fly rig. I like it.
I am looking for a Short-scale Bass. I've narrowed it down to 3 choices: G&L, Fender Mustang PJ or the Music Man Sterling Sting-ray. Any input from someone who familiar with all 3 ?
i know that the toggle switch on the mustang pj has rather low quality, i played it and it kinda sounded like a p bass, maybe a LITTLE bit muddier but that's all i know
Well, I'm VERY partial to the Fallout, it's a beast! The Mustangs are nice, but I'm not a fan of those pickups. Haven't tried the short scale MM, sounds intriguing.
what are your thoughts on Rickenbacker basses?
Sound cool, look neat, difficult to adjust, feel clunky.
More instrument volume please.
Use that volume knob maybe?
@@badscrewold3162 No no... compared to the speaking volume it is quite low. not all speakers can do it justice, of course.
Ed where’d you get the pink I can’t see that one in the product line?
It's an early production model, they'll be offered in a short while, same bass as the current intro version with the racing stripes... but they were out of those. I like the pink!
Bass Whisperer TV I agree the pink is one of shell pink looking retro fender colors. The racing strip isn’t my favorite I know it’s a mustang look but GL doesn’t need to go that route :)
They can do both with and without the stripe. I’m hoping to see a candy apple red with the stripe and even more, I’m hoping to see it offered with the old school head stock.
What does OMG mode mean?
Oh My God mode! It kicks in a resistor across one coil, cancels out a lot of highs and creates a bump in the lows and low mids.
just convinced a friend to buy one after reading/hearing lots of good things about those... might have been a mistake because I already know that I´m gonna be jealous that I didn´t get one myself 😂
You should!
Is it neck heavy at all?
You will have some Neck dive for sure
For me it sounds like a p bass with much more articulation. Creamy ! Like you said !
What is OMG mode?
It is like a chocolate bar!
After watching your videos and ended up buying the tribute version as my first short scale and I love it! Thanks for the awesome video review it definitely helped with my decision. What gauge of Daddario chromes do you use on it?
100-45 since there's only one short scale chrome set
More shell pink. Tight.
"If I take it out..." and balances it on a tiny tube next to him.
Fine sound. G&L should make a "wunkay edition", with mahogany body, ebony board, and bass/treble/volume controls, 3-way toggle. Lots more sounds, ability to fine-tune both bass and treble, which is really useful. And lose the racing stripes-- not a great intro feature there, those are pretty ugly (opinion) plus have a "kids' bass", "less than pro" vibe. Selling this bass way short.
Well, I think they just wanted it to be simpler. I do prefer the 1K-style eq, but I'd probably go with Series instead of OMG. I like OMG, but Series is not that much different to my ear, and no single-coil hum.
@@BassWhispererTV When my Wunkay was new in '81 I had a Country (old school even then) gig. OMG setting, adjust the bass and treble knobs to my best guess for the small-medium rooms we were playing, achieve "happiness" with a Music Man HD130 and 1-15" RH folded-horn port cab.
Yes... picky, picky, PICKY!!! Thanks!
Ed, which flat wound bass strings are on this?
Those are Pyramid Flats. Nice string!
@@BassWhispererTV Thank you!l
@@BassWhispererTV Thank you for the recommendation, I just put some on my G&L Fallout. They play with amazing smoothness, makes my fingers feel like they are sitting in a soft fine leather chair
Is that a Muckelroy I spy on the rack?
Yes, it's my Muck Piccolo bass!
@@BassWhispererTV awesome! I have a 6 string from Brady. It's a phenomenal instrument.
Sounds great, looks cool but I cannot for the life of me get past those headstocks.
tired of hearing about the ugly G & L head-stocks. Big deal. It sounds great. Try to get past it. Nobody watching you play cares.
First time to hear about that, why is ugly, weird ?
@MomoTheBellyDancer I wouldn't! Personal taste, but headless basses look weird to me, even if they balance better.
@MomoTheBellyDancer Uh... c'mon. Leave the dudes mom out of it.