Forgot to show my build at the end but it's a pretty standard melee build; Butcher's Fetish, Fae Warrior Ring, Probability Cord, Zania's Malice, Stone of Continuance. Overdrive on the Nightshade, as much bulk as possible in the traits + swiftness. Relic fragments are Melee crit chance, Melee crit damage, and Melee attack speed. Relic is to taste, I prefer quilted heart to shore up my poor stamina management. The four concoctions I used are Dark Cider, Chilled Steam, Verdant Tea, and Bark Extract. The newest patch fixed the scaling of certain boss weapons that had apparently been using standard weapon scaling even though they only went to +10. This meant that the Nightshade went from having a pathetic 92 base damage to having a respectable 142; still on the low side, but the hight attack speed, 18% base crit chance, and forward momentum make it usable, and the lifesteal gimmick comes in handy if you're doing a heavy armor setup rather than a light dodge setup. In the end, I still don't think this weapon is in a good spot. The damage is still too low when you consider that other weapons like the Rebellion Spear have the same attack speed but have WAY more base damage, and weapons that don't have a ranged gimmick like Stonebreaker or World's Edge need to have a lot going for them in order to compete, and Nightshade just doesn't. The lifesteal gimmick means you might be able to save trait points on Siphoner, but you don't need to lifesteal from an enemy if they're fucking dead because you've already killed them with a much better weapon. Being able to reach 88% crit chance is just overkill when you can reach around 75% crit chance with much better weapons like Stonebreaker, World's Edge, Huntress Spear, and Atom Splitter. This weapon is probably more suited to support a non-melee based build that already has points in Siphoner so that you can capitalize the lifesteal gimmick to top off on the last few enemies in an encounter if you don't have other sources of healing. With that said, I don't think most of the melee weapons in this game are in a good spot at the moment, as this is a third-person shooter game and the enemies were not designed with melee in mind; I.E. if your melee weapon of choice doesn't have a ranged gimmick attached, you need a backup plan for HALF of the game's content, so if you want to use melee as a full-time strategy, you have very few choices, and Nightshade is not one of them.
I hope this means Aphelion got buffed. It was weird that it does shit damage to enemies but I can potentially one shot my teammates with it. On console so no patch yet 😢
@@Gucci_218_TTV I think what he means is the interaction where melee weapon swings damage all hitboxes that they pass through, so where normally if you shoot a Bore weakspot with a gun, it just deals damage to the boss and that's it, but if you hit that Bore weakspot with a melee weapon, it hits that AND the boss that it's attached to, effectively doubling your damage and then some because of the weakspot multiplier. Of course, Bore has two charges, so you can put both on him at the same time and hit him THREE TIMES, which is absolutely absurd damage output. Depending on the boss and the weapon you're using, this is difficult to line up just right, especially since the Bore weakspots only last for 6 seconds and can be destroyed early if the boss hits them on accident, but when it works, you will rip a boss's health bar in half.
copy pasted from the pinned comment; pretty standard melee build; Butcher's Fetish, Fae Warrior Ring, Probability Cord, Zania's Malice, Stone of Continuance. Overdrive on the Nightshade, as much bulk as possible in the traits + swiftness. Relic fragments are Melee crit chance, Melee crit damage, and Melee attack speed. Relic is to taste, I prefer quilted heart to shore up my poor stamina management. The four concoctions I used are Dark Cider, Chilled Steam, Verdant Tea, and Bark Extract.
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Forgot to show my build at the end but it's a pretty standard melee build; Butcher's Fetish, Fae Warrior Ring, Probability Cord, Zania's Malice, Stone of Continuance. Overdrive on the Nightshade, as much bulk as possible in the traits + swiftness. Relic fragments are Melee crit chance, Melee crit damage, and Melee attack speed. Relic is to taste, I prefer quilted heart to shore up my poor stamina management. The four concoctions I used are Dark Cider, Chilled Steam, Verdant Tea, and Bark Extract.
The newest patch fixed the scaling of certain boss weapons that had apparently been using standard weapon scaling even though they only went to +10. This meant that the Nightshade went from having a pathetic 92 base damage to having a respectable 142; still on the low side, but the hight attack speed, 18% base crit chance, and forward momentum make it usable, and the lifesteal gimmick comes in handy if you're doing a heavy armor setup rather than a light dodge setup.
In the end, I still don't think this weapon is in a good spot. The damage is still too low when you consider that other weapons like the Rebellion Spear have the same attack speed but have WAY more base damage, and weapons that don't have a ranged gimmick like Stonebreaker or World's Edge need to have a lot going for them in order to compete, and Nightshade just doesn't. The lifesteal gimmick means you might be able to save trait points on Siphoner, but you don't need to lifesteal from an enemy if they're fucking dead because you've already killed them with a much better weapon. Being able to reach 88% crit chance is just overkill when you can reach around 75% crit chance with much better weapons like Stonebreaker, World's Edge, Huntress Spear, and Atom Splitter. This weapon is probably more suited to support a non-melee based build that already has points in Siphoner so that you can capitalize the lifesteal gimmick to top off on the last few enemies in an encounter if you don't have other sources of healing. With that said, I don't think most of the melee weapons in this game are in a good spot at the moment, as this is a third-person shooter game and the enemies were not designed with melee in mind; I.E. if your melee weapon of choice doesn't have a ranged gimmick attached, you need a backup plan for HALF of the game's content, so if you want to use melee as a full-time strategy, you have very few choices, and Nightshade is not one of them.
I hope this means Aphelion got buffed. It was weird that it does shit damage to enemies but I can potentially one shot my teammates with it.
On console so no patch yet 😢
Apocalypse melee build is insane, mad respect my guy
You mean to tell me bore works on melee weapons 👀
.... it's clearly on his shotgun not his melee weapon
@@Gucci_218_TTV I think what he means is the interaction where melee weapon swings damage all hitboxes that they pass through, so where normally if you shoot a Bore weakspot with a gun, it just deals damage to the boss and that's it, but if you hit that Bore weakspot with a melee weapon, it hits that AND the boss that it's attached to, effectively doubling your damage and then some because of the weakspot multiplier. Of course, Bore has two charges, so you can put both on him at the same time and hit him THREE TIMES, which is absolutely absurd damage output. Depending on the boss and the weapon you're using, this is difficult to line up just right, especially since the Bore weakspots only last for 6 seconds and can be destroyed early if the boss hits them on accident, but when it works, you will rip a boss's health bar in half.
Build?
copy pasted from the pinned comment; pretty standard melee build; Butcher's Fetish, Fae Warrior Ring, Probability Cord, Zania's Malice, Stone of Continuance. Overdrive on the Nightshade, as much bulk as possible in the traits + swiftness. Relic fragments are Melee crit chance, Melee crit damage, and Melee attack speed. Relic is to taste, I prefer quilted heart to shore up my poor stamina management. The four concoctions I used are Dark Cider, Chilled Steam, Verdant Tea, and Bark Extract.