I loved Rick's thoughts about them being metaphysical versus physical. They show the "gifts" a person brought into life to help with their life path. Their "special sauce" or magic qualities. I'm going to call them the Awesome Sauce Aspects. I'm available to brainstorm. LOL
So much more than minor. I already love how it sounds to call them harmonic frequencies and geometric vibrations, and maybe even better play with "Sub/Meta=Tones" of the Cosmic Orchestra which hints about midpoint structures that are usually involved. Thank you for sharing this much!!
This was an incredible session. thanks to you both for this information. As the earth enters the age of Aquarius, it seems that astrology too is entering the age of Aquarius! highlighting correspondences of all the " other worldly " aspects that do not show in traditional aspects is very much in alignment with Aquarian progressive and metaphysical energies.
I think Rick would have less of a problem with using the term 'minor' aspects if he looked at it from a musical standpoint. A minor key is no more important, beautiful, or significant than a major key. They're only different in tone. Amazing episode as always. 👏🏼
Actually, I go to the musical major/minor when people refer to them as minor... but it's NOT about what I think. I know how important these aspect are. I get tired of hearing astrologers say, "Sure, I use quintiles, but I only give them a one-degree orb because they are minor aspects." I think, after this episode, I'll simply refer to them as "Harmonic" aspects. I think Kepler would approve.
Rick Levine is so passionate about our craft and I am here for it. He is my favorite Astrologer. Love that Chris has him on often. I’m learning from a master astrologer. What a gift. Harmonics is a deep subject and where it separates the muggles from the adepts. I know I’ll be watching this like 5 times to capture everything.
Rick Levine is highly respected among Astrologers the world over and in my 20+ years experience he's the king of Astrology. He learnt astrology from the ground up as opposed to the internet. A true Astrologer and a super guy all the same.
As an electronic musician, sound artist, astrologer and inventor, this is pure joy to me. I love Rick's musical and mathematical metaphors. love from another stellium in the 11th house ✌🏽
This is one of my favorite episodes EVER, please keep inviting Rick. The mixture of intellectual prowess, passion, and subtle attunement to the otherworldly... it is sublime and adds many important layers to our understanding of the forces that animate and cause the outer appearances. Hats off 🙏
Rick Levine !!!! I first met Rick here on Chris's podcast and have been following him ever since. He has such calming and reassuring energy and so much knowledge! So excited to listen to this episode !!!
This really opened my eyes to another side of astrology with the minor aspects. I was just looking at my chart and I found some powerful quintiles and septiles that I never saw before. Thanks for sharing this!
The explanation of harmonics isolates how I energetically feel aspects within a chart at first glance. I empathically feel the energies before I dive in, and they sound like vibrations of energies and sound waves in discussion. That we come in waves of colour and sound, and vibrate with every atom to the beat of our soul’s drumming pattern - the natal chart. That transits may dance with our energetic signature and teach us new footing, new graces and moves with every second, we become dance partners to the cosmos. Excellent video, thank you both for your insight and dedication to astrology beyond the conventional textbook’s confines.
This is such a wonderful conversation. I have been studying astrology for 20 years and learned so much in this session! Thank you for putting this together. I will be watching more of your episodes. You have a new subscriber.
I love watching Rick and Chris spar when they disagree, you can learn so much from these conversations. Rick’s harmonic metaphor is actually incredibly useful with some basic music theory knowledge, I think he’s right that there’s a ton of insight to be gained from this lens. What an insanely illuminating video!!!
I can't believe I ate the whole thing. What a terrific presentation and discussion. The back and forth between the two of you looking at charts from a traditional then the special sep-quin perspective was a tour de force. It seemed easy to have a foot in both worlds. Actually, the septile family perspective and the quintile family perspective seem quite distinct from each other; I would just as soon see them as completely separate, with their own persentations, rather than lumping them together as the "untraditional ones." But that might have taken an extra hour. In the Buddhist teachings I have encountered (and I think this is in common with the older Hindu teachings), there are (at least) 6 realms of being which include many sub-realms: god realms (devaloka), jealous god realms (asuraloka), human realms, animal realms, hungry ghost realms (pretaloka), and hell realms (narakaloka). These can be considered psychologically, as emotional realms or states within human experience, which is an extremely valuable perspective for understanding emotions. But these realms were also traditionally considered as actual different types of beings. Typically, humans experience themselves, other humans and animals with ordinary perception, but less commonly do they experience gods, jealous gods, ghosts, or hell spirits/beings. For example, I have seen or felt ghosts only a handful of times in my life, but many have seen them much more frequently. Demons are not usually seen but are encountered, for example, as extreme and sudden emotional states. Anyway, one time someone asked my Buddhist teacher, who was present to all sorts of beings, why most ordinary humans don't perceive ghosts on a regular basis, that for most of us that's uncommon to see a ghost, a kind of special event. He said, and this is a third hand account, that we vibrate at a different frequency than them, the implication being that some people are able to vibrate in ways that allow certain kinds of perception, the perception of certain worlds, that others don't. This seemed to be a broader context to consider the discussion of septiles and quintiles, especially the septiles. I think this is a way of looking at psychological complexes in general, why people with similar or complementary pathologies or geniuses attract and can "see" each other. There are all sorts of realms within human realm, and the alien nature of these is defined, in part, by the conventional vibrations that most people are most used to. The alien is just something that goes against the conventional, to that way of thinking Maybe that's what "witnessing" refers to in traditional astrology, those mainstream aspects: the ways that most people vibrate most of the time that allows them to see what's in the horizon of possibility. But it also may be true that victims and abusers find each other because of complementary vibrations, or, for that matter, fish and fishermen. It's been extremely helpful to me to consider this notion of aversion, since 5 of the 7 visible planets in my natal chart are averse to the Ascendent. That was a huge piece of information that really got me in to traditional astrology a couple of years ago, watching the Astrologypodcasts. A deep debt of gratitude to CB, AC, and KS. But defining the other 4 whole sign aspects as "aversions" doesn't really say anything positive about what they are but just that they are not the standard aspects, the standard ways of seeing. That is, it defines them in terms of what they don't see, instead of looking into what other kinds of sight may be involved. It's a kind of cop-out, making the ancients look lazy, though, again, it's was a tremendous insight for me to see that those aversions did not correspond to what I thought was defined by seeing or witnessing. And the norms of how most people see things is an extremely important reference point that must never be lost track of. To lose track of how most people see things is quite rightly characterized as crazy. This is not to say that to see things otherwise is crazy, but to lose track of or ignore how most people see things is a very uncompassionate approach, arrogant, just pushing a trip. It's important to keep at least a foot in the conventional world.
As you were talking about the story of the Buddhist teacher and different realms,it reminded me of something similar that I had heard.If you get a chance listen to Paul selig's u tube podcast-in the upper room.He talkes about different levels and how each is a higher chord.if yo u do watch Paul I find it much easier to understand him if you turn off volume and turn on closed captions. If you listen to it u will understand. Also he has alot of channeled books out,one of them is about being in accord ,I am Not spelling achord, accord because each level in the upper rooms are chords as in music.
Great response which reminded me of why I “connect” / “see” a few people who also “see” me on quite a regular basis in the town I live. They may seem like ordinary people out and about but for some reason we always notice each other to the point I’ve started saying “hi” to some of them without ever having talked with them and probably I won’t talk to them. I have a septile between my sun and my moon.
I wanted to state what so many other viewers already did; please Rick Levine, do write that book! However, there's something else to add; What an amazing job is done with timestamps in your videos Chris! Thank you so much for all you do and give.
I listened to this TWICE when it was released as audio only. I can tell you that I highly anticipated WATCHING it, so I could see the facial expressions and visual chemistry between these two titans of astrology. Namaste!
I love to listen to Rick Levine speaking about astrology, even if I don't understand sometimes, he opens a door to a magic world And Chris is so intelligent, thank you, for the amazing conversation!
Rick, you go so deep, you're bottomless and topless, infinity... Master Rick - No one compares! Thank you for all the decades of learning Astrology from you!
This was a terrific discussion. That Chis was able to let Rick Levine "steal (much of) the show," as much as was needed while still remaining active in discussing and steering the topic was in my mind a great mark of his skill and experience as a host.
This has been my favorite Podcast this year! I have been waiting and wanting more discussions on natal Yods, Septiles, and Grand Trines. Pleeaassee Chris?!?! 😃
So in depth & classical astrology. I took classes with Fran McEvoy years ago back in the 80s. Through her, I met Rob Hand a number of times, & she often quoted Liz Green. Thank you, Rick, still learning, & you are a great teacher.
When we listen to music that leaves out the minor keys, it sounds like a march (Onward Christian Soldiers is an example--many North American Evangelical Christian hymns favour major keys). The minor keys provide lovely tones, add nuance, are prevalent in music from the Gaelic isles, Zydeco, Jazz, Blues and more liturgical forms of worship (Catholic, Anglican etc...). I vote we continue to refer to these aspects as minor (keys) which make life rich and interesting.
I love Rick Levine’s method of teaching. I always look at minor aspects. I had an Astrologer who told me she could not read my chart because I had too many Quintiles. I think Quincunx is so important in reading a natal chart.
This was great. Got me thinking that we will see language change in our lifetimes pertaining to astrology and meta physics. At first I thought something simple like "modern" aspects could work but there does seem to be a quantum jump between the 4th and the 5th. So... harmonic aspects, meta aspects (though social media news is quickly deteriorating how awesome the word meta is), immaterial or perhaps non-linear. I'm a new student to professional astrology and this is discussion really gets me going, so thanks again for your work!
This was a great episode. I came to it as a sceptic that only uses the five major configurations and only watched because I teach on a course that includes the 'metaphysical aspects'. Yet I enjoyed every minute and while not 100% convinced I thought Rick's presentation of two charts for each of his subjects was a very good way of integrating them, as a second pass, or a look to see if anything had been missed was a very useful way of using both 'sets' of aspects to assess a single life or event.. My thanks to both of you for giving me food for thought and helping me recognise that I might be missing something.
What a great master class. A whole new door for understanding people. Rick, please write this book! Waiting to hear more from Rick Levine and the other non-ptolemaic aspects. Thanks Chris
Gosh, Thank YOU BOTH so much! This has been a real massive revelation for me... My strongest Ptolemaic aspect, an almost exact trine (00'51) from Venus (2H) Pisces to Neptune (10H) in Scorpio I now realise is heavily underscored by an almost exact quintile (00'13) from Neptune to my Sun in Aquarius (1H) and part of a golden triangle with my Sun/Mercury conjunction (1H) and Saturn in Aries (3H). I have a very strong Aquarian chart and now see when I look at my complete picture, Neptune/Venus is equally strong as an influence and explains my artistic bent... no surprise that I am now delving into David Hamblin's work to understand more. A whole bundle of gratitude @RickLevine and @ChrisBrennan for what you bring to the World. I LOVE your discussions, and am happy there was no power outage this time... also loving the dry wit, I giggle along at those wry comments made by Chris... ;L)
My kid has 2 septiles-- Mercury septile Midheaven and Neptune septile Pluto. He has had 1 alien experience and some paranormal experiences when he was younger. He’s 16 now and can and does block it. He also has a Pisces stellium.
One of my favorite videos so far when it comes to the synergy between the both of you...how Rick started off caught and held my attention....I never used to think about the "metaphysical" aspects but the fact he cares so much gave me cause to pause...alot of great info.
Please write the book. I have lots of quintiles. It would be nice to get more knowledge on it. I've been studying them since 86. Donna Cunningham mentioned them also in one of her books. Great podcast. You guys have fun.
I have 30 years of experience with these so called ‘minor’ aspects and for me it is not that they are just adding a little extra detail. They are shading light on major part of peoples lives and relationships, that, when only using the so called ‘major’ aspects would remain completely unseen. I totally agree with Rick Levine. Although I would have liked less charts and going deeper into the interpretation of only a few. Just to make the experience of these aspects more profound to the listeners of this podcast. So that people can finally start using them. Further more, I really missed, at least, the noviles. I understand the reasoning behind this, that they are not, lets say, the primal ancestor of their harmonic series and that they are more subtle being higher up in number, but this also applies for quincunxes and semi quadrants, that were treated as well here. I want to stress that noviles are also very important and indicate to me true spirituality. In the chart of an individual they indicate being in commune with the universe, just being here now in total bliss. Without the lala stuff of the H7 aspects. And in a relationship the noviles indicate true commune between people, a deep feeling of bliss when people connect to each other. As I mentioned before, I claim this to be true not only from knowledge, but from many years of experiencing live with astrology as my close companion. To give yet another example of how important all aspects are, take a close look at Hitlers birth chart. Note that if you look at his chart, with only the ‘major aspects’ you will not grasp that you are looking at the chart of one of the biggest mass murderers of modern time. Venus and Mars squared to Saturn gave this man a deep rooted inferiority complex through the experience and inner conviction of never being recognised by authoritative figures. and in that sense a huge ambitious drive to overrule those authoritative symbols. But even if you take the Neptune Pluto conjunction into consideration, this does not explain him being a fanatic mass murderer. Now take the H5 and H7 aspects into consideration. His Sun in Taurus biSeptile on Saturn in Leo in combination with his Moon / Jupiter conjunction in Capricorn H7 triSeptile on his MC inspired him with a vision that he was the chosen traditional leader of the revival of the great Roman empire. In this vision he would become a kind of emperor, overruling all authority. With his North node in Cancer in IX, his evolutionary goal so to say, was to provide the desperate mass of working-class people with a great new vision of glory and with his node septile his ascendant he could inspire them into this vision. Now, you can find a lot of people like him in mad asylums. But now look at his H5 aspects. He has, what Rick Levine calls a ‘golden Yod’, of Neptune conjunct Pluto quintile Saturn, both biQuintile the Moon Jupiter conjunction, his great vision, on the apex. This ‘golden Yod’ is also connected to his Ascendant that functioned as a portal trough what all this creative energy was expressed into the world in a very charismatic way. Now I do not want to say that H5 aspects are evil or destructive, but do note that creativity and destructiveness are counterparts. Sometimes you have to be destructive to the old forms to create new ones out of them. Neptune conjunct Pluto quintile Saturn in his chart works out as a very strong headed deeply revolutionary intensely extreme and total destructive aspect in his chart. But also in the horrible gift to organise and lead an army in such a way, with such a discipline, that hey could took on a war against the whole world. The combination of the H5 and H7 aspects show a man that is inspired in a ‘great’ vision of reviving the Roman Empire as gods chosen leader. And his creative powers (with the destructive Neptune conjunct Pluto quintile Saturn) gave him the charisma to empower the mass. Gave the working-class people a new vision, a new way out of their misery, a supposed way to glory. All fed by the misery the Mars / Venus conjunction square Saturn indicates.
Great discussion! Loved seeing the charts with examples to fully grasp the concept. I'm going to watch this again because it was so good. Thanks Chris and Rick!
In my humble knowing--Rick Levine is hitting a bull's eye of depth psychology using Sacred geometry and the Zodiac as a possible transcendent model of addressing invisible pockets elucidating being-ness !
Not positive? Positive? Then? Now? When? What? Experiencing a bull's eye view means the observer resonates with some truth being-ness at that present moment; this resonance is not subject to further doubting or questioning but invites furthering into evolving that being's-- next steps. After all, comments and opinions arise as, in and from the individual's interpretation display of h/her lens/angle on the presenting view. Hope this is helpful. Thank you. @@beautifulintentions5678
Thanks so much for the deeper dive into the 5th&7th harmonics! I wish I also knew how to interpret these aspects by planet too. A really really deep deep dive into how the planets interact when aspected would be so appreciated! Thanks again to you both!
What a great lecture! I would never argue with Rick about astrology, but having studied color healing I would like to add that I was taught that there are only 4 colors of the rainbow and the other colors are made by overlapping, where orange is red and yellow overlapping, green is yellow and sky blue overlapping and indigo is sky blue and purple overlapping. Potentially the rainbow has many more colors. Rick says indigo was added because of some Christian theology, but using colored glass or even plastic filters for floodlights you can see that indigo is made by colors overlapping. Rick says septiles are otherworldly energy leaking in and my color teacher said humans would see indigo when they are evolved enough, so that confirms his understanding. God (or the creative force) does indeed use sevens!
One interesting thing about the yod. Electrically it functions either as a transmitter or a receiver. The sextile aspect works like a capacitor, the two inconjuncts as inductors and the opposition midpoint of the sextile as the antenna. There is a resistance core voltage drop at the center of the circle.
Chris, Love your content! Your mind is a mercurial wonderland! Love your intellectualism, professionalism and how you casually reference info from 100 BCE! - I think it is fine to make a distinction between aspects and the weight they carry. It is human nature to place a hierarchy of perceived importance but will always reside with the user to ascertain impact. Best, your Scorpio sibling.
Brilliant. Both astrologers are on fire here. I have been leaning towards a harmonic interpretation of astrology for many years and the more I look at it that way the more it fits. The horoscope was originally 10 signs and Harvey Spencer Lewis, the founder of AMORC, wrote a book based on a division of the zodiac by 14 or 7 by 2, with a mystical based interpretation, of course.
Yes Rick please write that book!!! Looking forward to taking your course on harmonics next week! Thank you Rick and Chris for all the amazing work you have done and continue to do!! ✌ 💘
I always feel smarter after this podcast but holy smokes. My brain. She’s on fire tonight. Hooray for the metaphysical aspects/quantum aspects/full geometry aspects, and for modern scholarship that’s driven by passion & curiosity & conviction:
imo the relationship by sign is what decides the quality of an aspect. There was a blogger who did a small study of his readers and his amateur finding was that the quality of minor aspects like the septile, semi-square etc. was down to the traditional whole sign relationship, the difference between minor aspects didn't matter so much as which whole signs were involved. i.e. if the signs are trine then the minor aspect would be positive even if it was a "hard" minor aspect etc. Quincunxes and semi-sextiles are powerful and they should be considered major aspects imo. The whole sign relationship of the inconjunct is awkward and difficult, when there's an aspect in orb it's usually particularly difficult. The traditional idea is that there's no interaction whatsoever between two inconjunct points, but it's easy to see after observing say transiting inconjuncts for a while that this is not the case. The two points will interact but have tremendous difficulty working together, maybe they cannot "see" eachother but they certainly effect eachother and in a powerful way. Out of sign aspects seem to contradict the sign-relationship theory, yet they are actually valid from my observation though not as strong. imo what's going on here is we're seeing two zodiacs at play, if an aspect is out of sign tropically it's in-sign sidereally, and imo that's why the aspect still has an effect on some level.
I’m only 21 minutes in as you’re both discussing the Quindecile (I studied with Noel Tyl so I say CHEE-LAY at the end LOL!) and I wanted to let Rick know that when he was last on the Podcast talking about the moment he was hit with “Spiritual Lightning” and discovered he had blood poisoning at the hospital, transiting Neptune was exactly QUINDECILE to his ASC. Neptune ruling blood, toxins, infection, etc., and the ASC (1st house) being one of the important health centers. So I’m glad you’re doing the “minor” aspects, including the Quindecile, I’ve been wanting to mention that incident to Rick and mention the exact transit he experienced that day. This podcast is wonderful, thank you both.
@@RickLevine Lastly, I noticed in David Bowie’s chart, an exact Uranus Quindecile his MC-Venus conjunction. I feel his greatest visual expression of that measurement was his presentation of himself as ZIGGY STARDUST complete with a lightning ⚡️ bolt painted across his face and a hairstyle that purposely looks like it was styled with pure untamed electricity. Every Halloween, someone young or old shows up at my door with the David Bowie specific lightning bolt across their face. [BONUS EDIT] Just noticed that Uranus Sesquiquadrates his ASC as well. No question, dude was a fabulous alien.
Please write that book! I'll get it! I just bought Chris' book, very interesting! I have worked professionally with astrology for 40 years and still learning. Thank you both of you!
So I stumbled across this video, am 1 hour in and while I know nothing about astrology am completely captivated by the conversation. This is really cool stuff 👍
What an amazing episode! This is super interesting, I would love to read Rick's book! I think I will have to finally get a proper astrology software, I can see I am missing out on so much interesting stuff using only the web-based chart calculators.
Revisited this because of quintiles. I agree with Rick, try to keep an open mind. So far I’m getting where I’m using sign based aspects then using others to see the intensity where I even actually widened orbs to keep potential secondary progressions in mind with what’s separating/applying with planet speed, of course. I wouldn’t really use secondary progressions myself if I practiced, but.. (personal story).. the reason I became open to the concept is because my gemini peak period was initiated by childhood ptsd that had a delayed response which is actually really common. It falls into my interpersonal relationship with a scorpio moon person that like to being up because anyone into astrology just get that. I still don’t view it as negative, scorpio moons are amazing at soul searching even though they can be ______. Childhood ptsd can often surface as a phase of emotional unresponsiveness that is unknown in cause because it’s so early. She inadvertently triggered it where there was an immediate memory flash where I knew what it was. It also showed a path I had to go down in order to resolve it which is likely an effect of Ketu. Nodes are definitely a subject needed to keep open minds about. The memory was my dad calling and my mom blocking me from saying “hello” where I remembered her telling him she’d do anything possible to make sure he never saw his kids ever again. Mix that with the divorce and moving around a lot, my early childhood was attachment to loss repeated over and over until about 5. It should easily show up in secondary progressions and there’s a psychological reason. It inhibits relationships or at least enjoying them which is a potential Ketu 7th issue. Doom and gloom! It’s passed, it’s related to part of the gemini zodiacal release which was actually getting the actual history. It’s about gaining knowledge and self limiting behaviors. Since Rick likes ufo/supernatural stories, I’ll say the close encounter with the gimbal ufo was symbolically related to going down that path mentioned which I felt was going to be a disaster, but using the Jungian technique he actually wrote about it’s more or less “the way out is through”. It’s actually in the zodiacal release description which is why it’s fresh in my mind. It’s like the synchronicity with the coworker looking at Jupiter months after moving to 3rd shift which was part of my current deep dive, my spirit release went from gemini 10th to 11th cancer. The rough part of zodiacal releases are over, fortune has a little catching up but they’re close together. Looking at a few charts casting lots, I definitely appreciate my own much more because I only have to check like 4 signs. My bigger gripe with cosmos and psyche is not using zodiac signs which feels like a glaring hole, but I also know it’s not hard to just look at it yourself. Tarnas doesn’t seem interested in getting into the debates with houses and zodiac systems, so it’s probably a good move not to go there. Whenever you think you “got it” with astrology, it throws a curve ball and I actually agree with Rick a lot on much of what he’s saying even though I have that attitude of certainty at times. Right now I’m fascinated by lot of spirit and how important just the ruling planet seems where part of me wonders if it’d be of value to popularize it while I also know how horribly that could turn out. Nightlight astrology has a good piece of not identifying with your chart as you, but he goes to master level with it. The other is not self identifying with a planet or sign. You see it a lot with sun sign astrology and how that can go plus my scorpio moon reference. I sort of do find it to be of good value to make note of in terms of understand a person and it’d make sense coming from a person with a lot of spirit ruled by mars in libra. lol. Luckily ruled by Venus in libra, but there’s a lot of tension in that placement if it’s repressed too much. I do have weird experiences with lot of nemesis being WITH spirit ruled by the same planet which is often a sign to not express the negative sides of that placement. There’s the whole thing with social climate these days that I don’t have to explain related to having a lot of spirit in said mars detriment. I’m still considering how much placements in relationship matter with those rulerships in terms of a static placement. Also, part of the point of a planet in detriment is “exile” so there’s a paradox issue. 😆 Since that axis is getting zodiacal activation I guess we’ll find out. Uranus in the 3rd scorpio is ruled by mars. I’m the type that can wake up and think it’d be fun to get canceled and have cancel as the hashtag. Started Neptune. That planet has a lot of chart aspects. I forgot Rick mentioned Orch Or on here. That’s my subscription.. in a minor discussion with someone in the ufo realm I did mention that the element they can’t replicate because it immediately decays is potentially a “world of forms” indicator because perfect material likely can’t exist in this dimension. It also seems to have fully opened up dialogue about how ufos actually change shape and it’s often connected to conscious thoughts of the observer. The government study at Skinwalker ranch was okayed by a person at the pentagon who saw one change shape into an ouroboros figure 8 symbol which had a personal meaning to them. Not physical but can take physical form. Weird stuff. It’s a rabbit hole to stay out of because people lose their minds when they do. Become religious fanatics or start TH-cam channels. 😂 start seeing shapes in clouds. If it doesn’t pay your bills, don’t worry about it. Rick is always great on this show. I really need to check his channel out.
Excellent to learn more about the so called minor aspects also - I don’t know how Chris kept a straight face when Rick was exercising his PhD in musical prowess, I was having a good giggle & in stitches watching the video …
Thank you for this discussion! Re: division of the tropical zodiac into 12 signs, I was waiting to hear about how there are usually 12 full moons per year.
I’ve only recently become interested in astrology and I love the podcast. I listen to the “dulcet tones” of you, Chris, Austin, Kelly and Rick every night before and while I sleep. Love ye ❤️
Narrowing orb entirely makes sense, with it being proportional to interval. If you have a 10 degree orb for everything you're going to have all aspects all the time, which just muddies the astrology, not filling in gaps. Thus specificity is lost. You'll read a chart as a textbook instead of a concise novel. Diminishing orbs I argue make the aspects even more poignant, special, valuable.
Orbs don’t mean a lot there’s multiple asteroids and patterns formed depending on the orb. Sometimes two planets can be 10 degree orb difference but they both touch two important fixed stars or connect to two different patterns and still work together with the 10 degree orb, this 10 degree orb would be stronger than a closer orb. It matters about the asteroid stars and patterns they make this is why u can find a person with sun conjunct Pluto 8 degrees and also meet a 0 degree conjunction and either could be more intense, this is why basically all athletes have all different types of orbs and many “minor aspect” configurations
So if I get it right: The aspects in the natal chart are like like notes, and the harmonic chart is a deeper look at that note which in turn makes on realise what instrument the aspect is played by in your natal chart. When looking at the harmonic of a trine let’s say; one will see conjunctions instead of trines between the planets trining each other in the natal chart. The flavour of the trine is that of creative potential in the natal chart, and in the harmonic of the trine one can see how it works when active. The third harmonic chart will show you how the trines in your chart are resolved. When the trine is active / played / it will be expressed as the conjunctions that you see in the harmonic chart. The conjunctions show integration, so when the trine is integrated and expressed the other planets will also express in a different way which will be seen in the harmonic chart. For example: In my 3rd harmonic chart I have moon/ascendant/Uranus in conjunction in Virgo. Sun and Mercury has changed from Taurus to Leo. When I am my trine aspects I am using my creativity to illustrate ascension/through uranian:moon means in Virgo, in my point of view it means intuitive practice of detail-analysis/scientific study, like this analysis that I’m making or when I’m painting very realistic paintings using “unrealistic” colours through intuitive choice. Although I can be incredibly self critical as part of the process (Virgo). When I am my trine I feel extremely confident (sun in Leo) and love showing off my works once I consider myself done. I don’t know if this interpretation is correct, Also I don’t know if one should consider other aspects within the harmonic trines - such as trines (within the trine?) and if so how one should do that.... Also if there’s several trines (conjunctions) in the harmonic which stands opposing each other - does the energy of the opposite resonate here?
Let us know in a separate comment below what name you think this group of aspects should be given!
I loved Rick's thoughts about them being metaphysical versus physical. They show the "gifts" a person brought into life to help with their life path. Their "special sauce" or magic qualities. I'm going to call them the Awesome Sauce Aspects. I'm available to brainstorm. LOL
Quantum Aspects as he referred to himself as a Quantum Astrologer.
So much more than minor. I already love how it sounds to call them harmonic frequencies and geometric vibrations, and maybe even better play with "Sub/Meta=Tones" of the Cosmic Orchestra which hints about midpoint structures that are usually involved. Thank you for sharing this much!!
Discords 🤓
This was an incredible session. thanks to you both for this information. As the earth enters the age of Aquarius, it seems that astrology too is entering the age of Aquarius! highlighting correspondences of all the " other worldly " aspects that do not show in traditional aspects is very much in alignment with Aquarian progressive and metaphysical energies.
I think Rick would have less of a problem with using the term 'minor' aspects if he looked at it from a musical standpoint. A minor key is no more important, beautiful, or significant than a major key. They're only different in tone.
Amazing episode as always. 👏🏼
Interesting observation and good point!
Beautiful point
True! I opt to have my songs in minor keys. :D
Actually, I go to the musical major/minor when people refer to them as minor... but it's NOT about what I think. I know how important these aspect are. I get tired of hearing astrologers say, "Sure, I use quintiles, but I only give them a one-degree orb because they are minor aspects." I think, after this episode, I'll simply refer to them as "Harmonic" aspects. I think Kepler would approve.
He literally says that he recognizes them in this way. You had to listen to more than half the podcast to hear it though 🙄 but gee great point lol
Rick Levine is so passionate about our craft and I am here for it. He is my favorite Astrologer. Love that Chris has him on often. I’m learning from a master astrologer. What a gift. Harmonics is a deep subject and where it separates the muggles from the adepts. I know I’ll be watching this like 5 times to capture everything.
I love the harmonic statement … muggles / adepts is very fitting !!!
Rick Levine is highly respected among Astrologers the world over and in my 20+ years experience he's the king of Astrology. He learnt astrology from the ground up as opposed to the internet. A true Astrologer and a super guy all the same.
He's intelligent, thorough, and logical.
Hooooo boy more Rick Levine on the Astrology pod LETS FUCKING GOOO!!!!!
Rick Levine just melted my brain and I couldn’t be more grateful.
As an electronic musician, sound artist, astrologer and inventor, this is pure joy to me. I love Rick's musical and mathematical metaphors. love from another stellium in the 11th house ✌🏽
as an opossum chewing on trash in
an open bin at midnight, I also find it terribly intriguing.
Dave Cochran, I believe, studied the frequencies and music correlation. Rick and Dave have been working together for years. Great teacher!
Chris and Rick together discussing astrology at a high level! What could be better?!
Thank you !!!
High level astro-athletes! A pure pleasure!
@@scarpin80 Your Scorpio rising/ Sun in Aries/ Moon in Leo is showing...
This is one of my favorite episodes EVER, please keep inviting Rick. The mixture of intellectual prowess, passion, and subtle attunement to the otherworldly... it is sublime and adds many important layers to our understanding of the forces that animate and cause the outer appearances. Hats off 🙏
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beautifully said and I couldn't agree more! This discussion is waking up my soul and brain in a magical way.
Rick Levine !!!! I first met Rick here on Chris's podcast and have been following him ever since. He has such calming and reassuring energy and so much knowledge! So excited to listen to this episode !!!
This really opened my eyes to another side of astrology with the minor aspects. I was just looking at my chart and I found some powerful quintiles and septiles that I never saw before. Thanks for sharing this!
The explanation of harmonics isolates how I energetically feel aspects within a chart at first glance. I empathically feel the energies before I dive in, and they sound like vibrations of energies and sound waves in discussion.
That we come in waves of colour and sound, and vibrate with every atom to the beat of our soul’s drumming pattern - the natal chart. That transits may dance with our energetic signature and teach us new footing, new graces and moves with every second, we become dance partners to the cosmos.
Excellent video, thank you both for your insight and dedication to astrology beyond the conventional textbook’s confines.
Beautifully written
This is such a wonderful conversation. I have been studying astrology for 20 years and learned so much in this session! Thank you for putting this together. I will be watching more of your episodes. You have a new subscriber.
I enjoy the method Chris counter argues facts with Rick. OMG they are both soooo smart!
They are
I loved the talk about harmonics. I'd love to "hear my chart"
Rick is so intelligent and passionate. I feel like listening to episodes with him is trying to drink from a fire hose! I’m trying to soak it all in.
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I love watching Rick and Chris spar when they disagree, you can learn so much from these conversations. Rick’s harmonic metaphor is actually incredibly useful with some basic music theory knowledge, I think he’s right that there’s a ton of insight to be gained from this lens. What an insanely illuminating video!!!
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I can't believe I ate the whole thing. What a terrific presentation and discussion. The back and forth between the two of you looking at charts from a traditional then the special sep-quin perspective was a tour de force. It seemed easy to have a foot in both worlds. Actually, the septile family perspective and the quintile family perspective seem quite distinct from each other; I would just as soon see them as completely separate, with their own persentations, rather than lumping them together as the "untraditional ones." But that might have taken an extra hour.
In the Buddhist teachings I have encountered (and I think this is in common with the older Hindu teachings), there are (at least) 6 realms of being which include many sub-realms: god realms (devaloka), jealous god realms (asuraloka), human realms, animal realms, hungry ghost realms (pretaloka), and hell realms (narakaloka). These can be considered psychologically, as emotional realms or states within human experience, which is an extremely valuable perspective for understanding emotions. But these realms were also traditionally considered as actual different types of beings. Typically, humans experience themselves, other humans and animals with ordinary perception, but less commonly do they experience gods, jealous gods, ghosts, or hell spirits/beings. For example, I have seen or felt ghosts only a handful of times in my life, but many have seen them much more frequently. Demons are not usually seen but are encountered, for example, as extreme and sudden emotional states. Anyway, one time someone asked my Buddhist teacher, who was present to all sorts of beings, why most ordinary humans don't perceive ghosts on a regular basis, that for most of us that's uncommon to see a ghost, a kind of special event. He said, and this is a third hand account, that we vibrate at a different frequency than them, the implication being that some people are able to vibrate in ways that allow certain kinds of perception, the perception of certain worlds, that others don't.
This seemed to be a broader context to consider the discussion of septiles and quintiles, especially the septiles. I think this is a way of looking at psychological complexes in general, why people with similar or complementary pathologies or geniuses attract and can "see" each other. There are all sorts of realms within human realm, and the alien nature of these is defined, in part, by the conventional vibrations that most people are most used to. The alien is just something that goes against the conventional, to that way of thinking Maybe that's what "witnessing" refers to in traditional astrology, those mainstream aspects: the ways that most people vibrate most of the time that allows them to see what's in the horizon of possibility. But it also may be true that victims and abusers find each other because of complementary vibrations, or, for that matter, fish and fishermen.
It's been extremely helpful to me to consider this notion of aversion, since 5 of the 7 visible planets in my natal chart are averse to the Ascendent. That was a huge piece of information that really got me in to traditional astrology a couple of years ago, watching the Astrologypodcasts. A deep debt of gratitude to CB, AC, and KS. But defining the other 4 whole sign aspects as "aversions" doesn't really say anything positive about what they are but just that they are not the standard aspects, the standard ways of seeing. That is, it defines them in terms of what they don't see, instead of looking into what other kinds of sight may be involved. It's a kind of cop-out, making the ancients look lazy, though, again, it's was a tremendous insight for me to see that those aversions did not correspond to what I thought was defined by seeing or witnessing. And the norms of how most people see things is an extremely important reference point that must never be lost track of. To lose track of how most people see things is quite rightly characterized as crazy. This is not to say that to see things otherwise is crazy, but to lose track of or ignore how most people see things is a very uncompassionate approach, arrogant, just pushing a trip. It's important to keep at least a foot in the conventional world.
As you were talking about the story of the Buddhist teacher and different realms,it reminded me of something similar that I had heard.If you get a chance listen to Paul selig's u tube podcast-in the upper room.He talkes about different levels and how each is a higher chord.if yo u do watch Paul I find it much easier to understand him if you turn off volume and turn on closed captions. If you listen to it u will understand. Also he has alot of channeled books out,one of them is about being in accord ,I am Not spelling achord, accord because each level in the upper rooms are chords as in music.
Great response which reminded me of why I “connect” / “see” a few people who also “see” me on quite a regular basis in the town I live. They may seem like ordinary people out and about but for some reason we always notice each other to the point I’ve started saying “hi” to some of them without ever having talked with them and probably I won’t talk to them. I have a septile between my sun and my moon.
I wanted to state what so many other viewers already did; please Rick Levine, do write that book!
However, there's something else to add; What an amazing job is done with timestamps in your videos Chris! Thank you so much for all you do and give.
I listened to this TWICE when it was released as audio only. I can tell you that I highly anticipated WATCHING it, so I could see the facial expressions and visual chemistry between these two titans of astrology. Namaste!
and can I add, 2 moon cycles later... I LOVE the missing dark circles under dear Chris' eyes. I've seen in it in later videos... so I worry...
I really really really…really really want Mr Levine to please write that book. 💛
What a privilege to listen and learn from two brilliant men. Thank you with much appreciation 🙏💯💫
I love to listen to Rick Levine speaking about astrology, even if I don't understand sometimes, he opens a door to a magic world And Chris is so intelligent, thank you, for the amazing conversation!
I love Rick Levine. So stinkin cute! Haha
And Chris is defly my fav astrologer. 💛Thank you so much for your work. I’m constantly watching. 💛💛
Rick, you go so deep, you're bottomless and topless, infinity... Master Rick - No one compares! Thank you for all the decades of learning Astrology from you!
This was a terrific discussion. That Chis was able to let Rick Levine "steal (much of) the show," as much as was needed while still remaining active in discussing and steering the topic was in my mind a great mark of his skill and experience as a host.
This has been my favorite Podcast this year! I have been waiting and wanting more discussions on natal Yods, Septiles, and Grand Trines. Pleeaassee Chris?!?! 😃
“Complexify, if that’s a word.”
Chris subtlety shaking his head no. 😭😭😭☠️☠️☠️
So in depth & classical astrology. I took classes with Fran McEvoy years ago back in the 80s. Through her, I met Rob Hand a number of times, & she often quoted Liz Green. Thank you, Rick, still learning, & you are a great teacher.
When we listen to music that leaves out the minor keys, it sounds like a march (Onward Christian Soldiers is an example--many North American Evangelical Christian hymns favour major keys). The minor keys provide lovely tones, add nuance, are prevalent in music from the Gaelic isles, Zydeco, Jazz, Blues and more liturgical forms of worship (Catholic, Anglican etc...). I vote we continue to refer to these aspects as minor (keys) which make life rich and interesting.
That was incredible. Thank you both. I can't wait for the book. Rick has definitely moved to top place in my list of favourite astrologers.
I love Rick Levine’s method of teaching. I always look at minor aspects. I had an Astrologer who told me she could not read my chart because I had too many Quintiles. I think Quincunx is so important in reading a natal chart.
No one ever agrees with me when I say how much value an interpreted quincunx has! Thank you!
Great respect to Rick for his precious knowledge he'd shared with us
I'm only 14 minutes in and this show is becoming one of my favorites. Wow, Rick and Chris, awesome to hear this discourse :) Thanks.
“Strong quintiles in charts of artists, poets, etc.”
Quentin Tarantino has a whole biquintile star in his chart. It’s incredible.
Fascinating! "Mystic Aspects"? Rick and Chris together - magnetic podcast. Thanks 😘
This was great. Got me thinking that we will see language change in our lifetimes pertaining to astrology and meta physics. At first I thought something simple like "modern" aspects could work but there does seem to be a quantum jump between the 4th and the 5th. So... harmonic aspects, meta aspects (though social media news is quickly deteriorating how awesome the word meta is), immaterial or perhaps non-linear. I'm a new student to professional astrology and this is discussion really gets me going, so thanks again for your work!
This was a great episode. I came to it as a sceptic that only uses the five major configurations and only watched because I teach on a course that includes the 'metaphysical aspects'. Yet I enjoyed every minute and while not 100% convinced I thought Rick's presentation of two charts for each of his subjects was a very good way of integrating them, as a second pass, or a look to see if anything had been missed was a very useful way of using both 'sets' of aspects to assess a single life or event.. My thanks to both of you for giving me food for thought and helping me recognise that I might be missing something.
What a great master class. A whole new door for understanding people. Rick, please write this book! Waiting to hear more from Rick Levine and the other non-ptolemaic aspects. Thanks Chris
Gosh, Thank YOU BOTH so much! This has been a real massive revelation for me...
My strongest Ptolemaic aspect, an almost exact trine (00'51) from Venus (2H) Pisces to Neptune (10H) in Scorpio I now realise is heavily underscored by an almost exact quintile (00'13) from Neptune to my Sun in Aquarius (1H) and part of a golden triangle with my Sun/Mercury conjunction (1H) and Saturn in Aries (3H).
I have a very strong Aquarian chart and now see when I look at my complete picture, Neptune/Venus is equally strong as an influence and explains my artistic bent... no surprise that I am now delving into David Hamblin's work to understand more.
A whole bundle of gratitude @RickLevine and @ChrisBrennan for what you bring to the World. I LOVE your discussions, and am happy there was no power outage this time... also loving the dry wit, I giggle along at those wry comments made by Chris... ;L)
My kid has 2 septiles-- Mercury septile Midheaven and Neptune septile Pluto.
He has had 1 alien experience and some paranormal experiences when he was younger. He’s 16 now and can and does block it. He also has a Pisces stellium.
what website do you use to see septiles and what do you change in settings to add septiles so it will show?
@@ileanareyes3973 I like the Time Passages Pro App. It shows all aspects w/out having to change parameters.
Please write that book! Thank you both so much for your time and expertise
One of my favorite videos so far when it comes to the synergy between the both of you...how Rick started off caught and held my attention....I never used to think about the "metaphysical" aspects but the fact he cares so much gave me cause to pause...alot of great info.
Please write the book. I have lots of quintiles. It would be nice to get more knowledge on it. I've been studying them since 86. Donna Cunningham mentioned them also in one of her books. Great podcast. You guys have fun.
Brilliant. Such a pleasure to hear intelligent discussion about a topic that I find incredibly difficult to comprehend. THANK YOU!
I have 30 years of experience with these so called ‘minor’ aspects and for me it is not that they are just adding a little extra detail. They are shading light on major part of peoples lives and relationships, that, when only using the so called ‘major’ aspects would remain completely unseen. I totally agree with Rick Levine. Although I would have liked less charts and going deeper into the interpretation of only a few. Just to make the experience of these aspects more profound to the listeners of this podcast. So that people can finally start using them. Further more, I really missed, at least, the noviles. I understand the reasoning behind this, that they are not, lets say, the primal ancestor of their harmonic series and that they are more subtle being higher up in number, but this also applies for quincunxes and semi quadrants, that were treated as well here. I want to stress that noviles are also very important and indicate to me true spirituality. In the chart of an individual they indicate being in commune with the universe, just being here now in total bliss. Without the lala stuff of the H7 aspects. And in a relationship the noviles indicate true commune between people, a deep feeling of bliss when people connect to each other. As I mentioned before, I claim this to be true not only from knowledge, but from many years of experiencing live with astrology as my close companion.
To give yet another example of how important all aspects are, take a close look at Hitlers birth chart. Note that if you look at his chart, with only the ‘major aspects’ you will not grasp that you are looking at the chart of one of the biggest mass murderers of modern time. Venus and Mars squared to Saturn gave this man a deep rooted inferiority complex through the experience and inner conviction of never being recognised by authoritative figures. and in that sense a huge ambitious drive to overrule those authoritative symbols. But even if you take the Neptune Pluto conjunction into consideration, this does not explain him being a fanatic mass murderer. Now take the H5 and H7 aspects into consideration. His Sun in Taurus biSeptile on Saturn in Leo in combination with his Moon / Jupiter conjunction in Capricorn H7 triSeptile on his MC inspired him with a vision that he was the chosen traditional leader of the revival of the great Roman empire. In this vision he would become a kind of emperor, overruling all authority. With his North node in Cancer in IX, his evolutionary goal so to say, was to provide the desperate mass of working-class people with a great new vision of glory and with his node septile his ascendant he could inspire them into this vision. Now, you can find a lot of people like him in mad asylums. But now look at his H5 aspects. He has, what Rick Levine calls a ‘golden Yod’, of Neptune conjunct Pluto quintile Saturn, both biQuintile the Moon Jupiter conjunction, his great vision, on the apex. This ‘golden Yod’ is also connected to his Ascendant that functioned as a portal trough what all this creative energy was expressed into the world in a very charismatic way. Now I do not want to say that H5 aspects are evil or destructive, but do note that creativity and destructiveness are counterparts. Sometimes you have to be destructive to the old forms to create new ones out of them. Neptune conjunct Pluto quintile Saturn in his chart works out as a very strong headed deeply revolutionary intensely extreme and total destructive aspect in his chart. But also in the horrible gift to organise and lead an army in such a way, with such a discipline, that hey could took on a war against the whole world. The combination of the H5 and H7 aspects show a man that is inspired in a ‘great’ vision of reviving the Roman Empire as gods chosen leader. And his creative powers (with the destructive Neptune conjunct Pluto quintile Saturn) gave him the charisma to empower the mass. Gave the working-class people a new vision, a new way out of their misery, a supposed way to glory. All fed by the misery the Mars / Venus conjunction square Saturn indicates.
Thank you, very helpful :)
Great discussion! Loved seeing the charts with examples to fully grasp the concept. I'm going to watch this again because it was so good. Thanks Chris and Rick!
I have watched Rick Levine for a long time and is one of my favorites. Thank you.
In my humble knowing--Rick Levine is hitting a bull's eye of depth psychology using Sacred geometry and the Zodiac as a possible transcendent model of addressing invisible pockets elucidating being-ness !
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@Gilda Cao can you explain this in simpler forms. I pretty sure I get what you are saying. It would be nice to be positive though. Thank you.
Not positive? Positive? Then? Now? When? What? Experiencing a bull's eye view means the observer resonates with some truth being-ness at that present moment; this resonance is not subject to further doubting or questioning but invites furthering into evolving that being's-- next steps. After all, comments and opinions arise as, in and from the individual's interpretation display of h/her lens/angle on the presenting view. Hope this is helpful. Thank you.
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Possibly my favorite episode thus far!
Thanks so much for the deeper dive into the 5th&7th harmonics! I wish I also knew how to interpret these aspects by planet too. A really really deep deep dive into how the planets interact when aspected would be so appreciated! Thanks again to you both!
“The Mean ing Node “ :)). Very insightful every video with you two ! Always very thankful for your views 🙏🏼🌟
I could listen to you two all day.
Now let’s all go to Breitenbush and continue this fire conversation.
What a great lecture! I would never argue with Rick about astrology, but having studied color healing I would like to add that I was taught that there are only 4 colors of the rainbow and the other colors are made by overlapping, where orange is red and yellow overlapping, green is yellow and sky blue overlapping and indigo is sky blue and purple overlapping. Potentially the rainbow has many more colors. Rick says indigo was added because of some Christian theology, but using colored glass or even plastic filters for floodlights you can see that indigo is made by colors overlapping. Rick says septiles are otherworldly energy leaking in and my color teacher said humans would see indigo when they are evolved enough, so that confirms his understanding. God (or the creative force) does indeed use sevens!
Liking and sharing this from minute 1 just becasue you two are already a great combo regardless of the topic! THANK YOU BOTH!
I have one of those septiles exact between NEPTUNE and MERCURY . Xxxand I am so proud cos Rick loves them xxx
Loved this and would love that book. Even if it seems more advanced or complex as we integrate more; it’s the natural course of evolution
This is sooo good!! I love the moments of debate between the two of you! Learning so much!
That was amazing thank you so much for running these endlessly long deep dives just love it. ♥️♥️♥️
Rick Levine, you know WAY too much about way too much!! I love listening to you
So fantastic to see 2 of my favourites in 1 show. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!
I like what Chris said about the complexity of the world… it resonated.
One interesting thing about the yod. Electrically it functions either as a transmitter or a receiver. The sextile aspect works like a capacitor, the two inconjuncts as inductors and the opposition midpoint of the sextile as the antenna. There is a resistance core voltage drop at the center of the circle.
Chris, Love your content! Your mind is a mercurial wonderland! Love your intellectualism, professionalism and how you casually reference info from 100 BCE! - I think it is fine to make a distinction between aspects and the weight they carry. It is human nature to place a hierarchy of perceived importance but will always reside with the user to ascertain impact. Best, your Scorpio sibling.
Brilliant. Both astrologers are on fire here. I have been leaning towards a harmonic interpretation of astrology for many years and the more I look at it that way the more it fits. The horoscope was originally 10 signs and Harvey Spencer Lewis, the founder of AMORC, wrote a book based on a division of the zodiac by 14 or 7 by 2, with a mystical based interpretation, of course.
My true love of Astrologers, Rick💕 So much to learn & great chart examples!! So awesome to see you both together!! Happy Holidays 🎆!
You are both treasures for the astrological community...
this video is truly a gem
Yes Rick please write that book!!! Looking forward to taking your course on harmonics next week! Thank you Rick and Chris for all the amazing work you have done and continue to do!! ✌ 💘
I always feel smarter after this podcast but holy smokes. My brain. She’s on fire tonight.
Hooray for the metaphysical aspects/quantum aspects/full geometry aspects, and for modern scholarship that’s driven by passion & curiosity & conviction:
PLEASE write the book. David Hamblin's book are great, but I'd love to read Rick's too. It's a fascinating, underused area.
Emily Dickenson was from Amherst MA. Western MA. My home town.
What a wonderful session. So much info. Will be listening to this many times. Big thank you
imo the relationship by sign is what decides the quality of an aspect. There was a blogger who did a small study of his readers and his amateur finding was that the quality of minor aspects like the septile, semi-square etc. was down to the traditional whole sign relationship, the difference between minor aspects didn't matter so much as which whole signs were involved. i.e. if the signs are trine then the minor aspect would be positive even if it was a "hard" minor aspect etc.
Quincunxes and semi-sextiles are powerful and they should be considered major aspects imo. The whole sign relationship of the inconjunct is awkward and difficult, when there's an aspect in orb it's usually particularly difficult. The traditional idea is that there's no interaction whatsoever between two inconjunct points, but it's easy to see after observing say transiting inconjuncts for a while that this is not the case. The two points will interact but have tremendous difficulty working together, maybe they cannot "see" eachother but they certainly effect eachother and in a powerful way.
Out of sign aspects seem to contradict the sign-relationship theory, yet they are actually valid from my observation though not as strong. imo what's going on here is we're seeing two zodiacs at play, if an aspect is out of sign tropically it's in-sign sidereally, and imo that's why the aspect still has an effect on some level.
the very best episode of this year! i need more of discussions about minor aspects.
I’m only 21 minutes in as you’re both discussing the Quindecile (I studied with Noel Tyl so I say CHEE-LAY at the end LOL!) and I wanted to let Rick know that when he was last on the Podcast talking about the moment he was hit with “Spiritual Lightning” and discovered he had blood poisoning at the hospital, transiting Neptune was exactly QUINDECILE to his ASC. Neptune ruling blood, toxins, infection, etc., and the ASC (1st house) being one of the important health centers. So I’m glad you’re doing the “minor” aspects, including the Quindecile, I’ve been wanting to mention that incident to Rick and mention the exact transit he experienced that day. This podcast is wonderful, thank you both.
Thanks for this. I hadn't noticed before. I love the never-ending growth/learning potential of astrology.
@@RickLevine Lastly, I noticed in David Bowie’s chart, an exact Uranus Quindecile his MC-Venus conjunction. I feel his greatest visual expression of that measurement was his presentation of himself as ZIGGY STARDUST complete with a lightning ⚡️ bolt painted across his face and a hairstyle that purposely looks like it was styled with pure untamed electricity. Every Halloween, someone young or old shows up at my door with the David Bowie specific lightning bolt across their face. [BONUS EDIT] Just noticed that Uranus Sesquiquadrates his ASC as well. No question, dude was a fabulous alien.
🌟 Such an informative session, per usual! Thank you both! 🌟
Wonderful presentation, from 2 amazing stellar minds!💫🌟loved this!
Rick is such a cool person ^^
Thank you Chris for such Christmas gift , to hear Rick Levine on your channel.
Namaste 🙏
Chris you are the absolute don! Great interview
I really want Rick to write ✍ that book and I will happily buy that book 📖 ❤ 😍 💖
Please write that book! I'll get it! I just bought Chris' book, very interesting! I have worked professionally with astrology for 40 years and still learning. Thank you both of you!
So I stumbled across this video, am 1 hour in and while I know nothing about astrology am completely captivated by the conversation. This is really cool stuff 👍
This was such an awesome lecture! Please write that book Rick!!!
What an amazing episode! This is super interesting, I would love to read Rick's book! I think I will have to finally get a proper astrology software, I can see I am missing out on so much interesting stuff using only the web-based chart calculators.
This was a great show. A master class. Yes, write the book, please. Thank you!
Revisited this because of quintiles. I agree with Rick, try to keep an open mind. So far I’m getting where I’m using sign based aspects then using others to see the intensity where I even actually widened orbs to keep potential secondary progressions in mind with what’s separating/applying with planet speed, of course. I wouldn’t really use secondary progressions myself if I practiced, but.. (personal story).. the reason I became open to the concept is because my gemini peak period was initiated by childhood ptsd that had a delayed response which is actually really common. It falls into my interpersonal relationship with a scorpio moon person that like to being up because anyone into astrology just get that. I still don’t view it as negative, scorpio moons are amazing at soul searching even though they can be ______. Childhood ptsd can often surface as a phase of emotional unresponsiveness that is unknown in cause because it’s so early. She inadvertently triggered it where there was an immediate memory flash where I knew what it was. It also showed a path I had to go down in order to resolve it which is likely an effect of Ketu. Nodes are definitely a subject needed to keep open minds about. The memory was my dad calling and my mom blocking me from saying “hello” where I remembered her telling him she’d do anything possible to make sure he never saw his kids ever again. Mix that with the divorce and moving around a lot, my early childhood was attachment to loss repeated over and over until about 5. It should easily show up in secondary progressions and there’s a psychological reason. It inhibits relationships or at least enjoying them which is a potential Ketu 7th issue. Doom and gloom! It’s passed, it’s related to part of the gemini zodiacal release which was actually getting the actual history. It’s about gaining knowledge and self limiting behaviors. Since Rick likes ufo/supernatural stories, I’ll say the close encounter with the gimbal ufo was symbolically related to going down that path mentioned which I felt was going to be a disaster, but using the Jungian technique he actually wrote about it’s more or less “the way out is through”. It’s actually in the zodiacal release description which is why it’s fresh in my mind. It’s like the synchronicity with the coworker looking at Jupiter months after moving to 3rd shift which was part of my current deep dive, my spirit release went from gemini 10th to 11th cancer. The rough part of zodiacal releases are over, fortune has a little catching up but they’re close together. Looking at a few charts casting lots, I definitely appreciate my own much more because I only have to check like 4 signs.
My bigger gripe with cosmos and psyche is not using zodiac signs which feels like a glaring hole, but I also know it’s not hard to just look at it yourself. Tarnas doesn’t seem interested in getting into the debates with houses and zodiac systems, so it’s probably a good move not to go there. Whenever you think you “got it” with astrology, it throws a curve ball and I actually agree with Rick a lot on much of what he’s saying even though I have that attitude of certainty at times.
Right now I’m fascinated by lot of spirit and how important just the ruling planet seems where part of me wonders if it’d be of value to popularize it while I also know how horribly that could turn out. Nightlight astrology has a good piece of not identifying with your chart as you, but he goes to master level with it. The other is not self identifying with a planet or sign. You see it a lot with sun sign astrology and how that can go plus my scorpio moon reference. I sort of do find it to be of good value to make note of in terms of understand a person and it’d make sense coming from a person with a lot of spirit ruled by mars in libra. lol. Luckily ruled by Venus in libra, but there’s a lot of tension in that placement if it’s repressed too much. I do have weird experiences with lot of nemesis being WITH spirit ruled by the same planet which is often a sign to not express the negative sides of that placement. There’s the whole thing with social climate these days that I don’t have to explain related to having a lot of spirit in said mars detriment. I’m still considering how much placements in relationship matter with those rulerships in terms of a static placement. Also, part of the point of a planet in detriment is “exile” so there’s a paradox issue. 😆
Since that axis is getting zodiacal activation I guess we’ll find out. Uranus in the 3rd scorpio is ruled by mars. I’m the type that can wake up and think it’d be fun to get canceled and have cancel as the hashtag.
Started Neptune. That planet has a lot of chart aspects.
I forgot Rick mentioned Orch Or on here. That’s my subscription.. in a minor discussion with someone in the ufo realm I did mention that the element they can’t replicate because it immediately decays is potentially a “world of forms” indicator because perfect material likely can’t exist in this dimension. It also seems to have fully opened up dialogue about how ufos actually change shape and it’s often connected to conscious thoughts of the observer. The government study at Skinwalker ranch was okayed by a person at the pentagon who saw one change shape into an ouroboros figure 8 symbol which had a personal meaning to them. Not physical but can take physical form. Weird stuff. It’s a rabbit hole to stay out of because people lose their minds when they do. Become religious fanatics or start TH-cam channels. 😂 start seeing shapes in clouds.
If it doesn’t pay your bills, don’t worry about it. Rick is always great on this show. I really need to check his channel out.
So happy to have Rick back! Great information. Thank you.,
Excellent to learn more about the so called minor aspects also - I don’t know how Chris kept a straight face when Rick was exercising his PhD in musical prowess, I was having a good giggle & in stitches watching the video …
Thank you for this discussion! Re: division of the tropical zodiac into 12 signs, I was waiting to hear about how there are usually 12 full moons per year.
Loving this podcast so much. I can feel my brain working. Thank you for organising this xx
The fact that you still named this video "minor aspects" after Rick's utter disdain for the term in the video is pretty funny after the fact😂
I’ve only recently become interested in astrology and I love the podcast. I listen to the “dulcet tones” of you, Chris, Austin, Kelly and Rick every night before and while I sleep. Love ye ❤️
Narrowing orb entirely makes sense, with it being proportional to interval. If you have a 10 degree orb for everything you're going to have all aspects all the time, which just muddies the astrology, not filling in gaps. Thus specificity is lost. You'll read a chart as a textbook instead of a concise novel. Diminishing orbs I argue make the aspects even more poignant, special, valuable.
Orbs don’t mean a lot there’s multiple asteroids and patterns formed depending on the orb. Sometimes two planets can be 10 degree orb difference but they both touch two important fixed stars or connect to two different patterns and still work together with the 10 degree orb, this 10 degree orb would be stronger than a closer orb. It matters about the asteroid stars and patterns they make this is why u can find a person with sun conjunct Pluto 8 degrees and also meet a 0 degree conjunction and either could be more intense, this is why basically all athletes have all different types of orbs and many “minor aspect” configurations
So professional and I have really learned a lot as always. Thank you so much
So if I get it right:
The aspects in the natal chart are like like notes, and the harmonic chart is a deeper look at that note which in turn makes on realise what instrument the aspect is played by in your natal chart.
When looking at the harmonic of a trine let’s say; one will see conjunctions instead of trines between the planets trining each other in the natal chart.
The flavour of the trine is that of creative potential in the natal chart, and in the harmonic of the trine one can see how it works when active. The third harmonic chart will show you how the trines in your chart are resolved. When the trine is active / played / it will be expressed as the conjunctions that you see in the harmonic chart. The conjunctions show integration, so when the trine is integrated and expressed the other planets will also express in a different way which will be seen in the harmonic chart.
For example: In my 3rd harmonic chart I have moon/ascendant/Uranus in conjunction in Virgo. Sun and Mercury has changed from Taurus to Leo.
When I am my trine aspects I am using my creativity to illustrate ascension/through uranian:moon means in Virgo, in my point of view it means intuitive practice of detail-analysis/scientific study, like this analysis that I’m making or when I’m painting very realistic paintings using “unrealistic” colours through intuitive choice. Although I can be incredibly self critical as part of the process (Virgo).
When I am my trine I feel extremely confident (sun in Leo) and love showing off my works once I consider myself done.
I don’t know if this interpretation is correct, Also I don’t know if one should consider other aspects within the harmonic trines - such as trines (within the trine?) and if so how one should do that....
Also if there’s several trines (conjunctions) in the harmonic which stands opposing each other - does the energy of the opposite resonate here?
This opened up understanding quite a bit more for me. Thanks!
You can calculate Harmonics chart of any number from 1 to 360 on Astro-seek
The merging has begun! Love this! Happy Turkey Day!🦃