Eddie is an idiot to pick a fight with page…page doesn’t need criticism, he paid his deuce…and contributed to the history of music. Absolute no reason to go after page..it’s even disrespect.
Outrider tour? I saw that in Miami Page was on fire that night. Hurricane Gilbert has just passed through and Jimmy brought some much needed distraction after that.
With PAGE+ PLANT and the Firm, PAGE and the black crowes were all amazing, so bummed out Bonzo passed, I would have seen them in Madison Square Garden N.Y.😢
It turns out that Page in that era when Eddie saw Zeppelin live Jimmy was recovering from a broken hand. I like Eddie but that was a prick thing to say. Jimmy page was a session musician and producer Eddie how ever great, he is a one trick pony it all begins to sound like one big eruption solo. I loved there first album the best and 1984.
I'm recovering from drop wrist I slept on my arm wrong and it fucks with your nerves I couldn't play a open A cord they say it takes 4 months to heal but I started doing my own physical therapy I can play more chords now and tie my shoes simple things that I couldn't do the 1st week of this thing I've never heard of until I got it it sucks but it's more common than I thought oh well I'll keep fighting along until I get back to how I was playing anyway have a good day
@@rayfabris2512 So image your on stage in the biggest rock band trying to keep the American Tour going recovering from a broken hand and some a-hole in a virtually unknown band at the time criticizes your playing duh he's playing like he has a broken hand Eddie is very observant. Love Eddie but not the sharpest tool in the shed.
I’ve heard many times about Page being sloppy live but I couldn’t give two craps about that. His legacy and catalog is freaking awesome and he changed his sound from album to album without being boring by playing the same basic notes over and over. Besides,only guitarists themselves even notice him being “sloppy”. The average fan doesn’t see or hear that.
When? Clapton was Eddie’s main influence. EVH fell out with Clapton over the Starfleet project. EVH & BM did a throw away blues and dedicated it to Clapton who took offence.
@@timboz2569 there is a video I saw very recently about this ..yes Clapton was a huge influence on Eddie bu Eddie was critical of him many years down the road
I’ll take Jimmy Page over Eddie Van Halen any day. Liked Van Halen’s first album. But after that they lost me. Eddie’s solo became tapping fills. Lots of fast screeching notes with no heart or soul in it. I think Eddie’s ego was bigger than he was! Calling someone sloppy yet appearing onstage drunk or high himself. Pot calling the kettle black. Not to mention the way Eddie treated Michael Anthony and Sammy Hagar.
FACT:Eddie Van Halen wanted Dayrl Hall to replace David Lee Roth NOT Sammy Hagar! Also,Patty Smyth was on Eddie Van Halen’s list to replace David Lee Roth! At the end of the day,and with some arm twisting,Sammy Hagar took the position,and Eddie Van Halen HATED John Oates also! The Hall&Oates debacle started in the second half of the 1980’s when EVH ran his mouth,telling Daryl Hall you should break up with John Oates,and come to Van Halen! Since then,Hall&Oates were feuding behind closed doors,right up to the present day of Hall&Oates fighting one another in court for the catalog control of their material!!!
It has to be a rough and tumble world in high-stakes rock and roll fame being one’s continual agent. Eddie collaborated with his idol EC on the tune bluesbreaker but then starts ripping on him. Ripped on RR while playing the LA circuit, ripped on Joe Perry while touring with Aerosmith, ripped on on his idol JPage…. Rock and roll was surely born of rebellion - RIP Eddie
Page wrote classical master pieces while eddie never wrote a stairway to heaven or anyclose to it . Man Jimmy music similar to a Beethoven piece Jimmy wrote music has not ben seen quite that great i don't kniw but jimmy n rhodes wrote music lkke it came from another planet this is Jessie Cristy husband God bless us all 💕🙏
I love EVH! I always found Page to be great player as well, just different, and that's OK. A lot of our "gods", whether musician or athlete, etc., tend to have fragile egos. They're human. Keep rockin' Jimmy! R.I.P. King Edward.
Not many know of course actually, Jimmy Page saw Randy Rhoads with QR at the Whiskey with Robert Plant. Jimmy went up to the dressing room after and met Randy because he really liked his playing and was impressed and this was way before his morphed into the monster with Ozzy even.
Saw page bout 16x.71..73.75.77.2x each .83...85,86 2x each..88 2x both pg.plnt tours.saw halen 1x.ed great chops.speed .page art in motion great songwriting diff moods of song.more vers.music imo..yes jim peaks valleys..on stage page had many mor layers to cover imo..
I know a few musicians from Detroit that saw page in the 60’s that said he was sloppy, but man that guy sure could write amazing songs i seen him twice and he played great, tons of bootlegs also so maybe these people were just jealous, but hey nobody perfect every show,
I am pretty sure that I remember reading an interview in musician magazine with Jimmy page. during the interview the guy asking the questions said Mr. Paige Eddie Van Halen says you were a great innovator but live you played like a child with a broken hand. What do you think of this guy? Jimmy page’s response was“ Eddie who?“. I have to say that’s classy.
@ford289cid7 I don't need to portray anything! I have an extensive rock lineage unlike yourself! Now go play with your sb ford engine... Or maybe you would like to debate about my 65 fastback with a 289 hi-po!
@@ford289cid7 lame as hell? You can't even comprehend a post! I never mentioned Trump when I replied! And the Kamala thing was second. I could tell by the way you were whining! So go take your meds and cry about the greatest guitar player who ever stepped foot on planet earth inventing tapping! Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Edward Van Halen! 🙏🏻🔴⚪⚫👑👊🏻
I could site a few differences between Van Halen and Led Zeppelin but I won't go into them here but both bands did have something in common as they both broke the rules and ended up changing the musical landscape as we then knew it bottom line and if it weren't for Edward being the prodigy that he was there would be no Van Halen because he was the one that made the band work in the first place.
Allen Holdsworth, Frank Grambele, Mateo, Guthrie Grovan, George Benson, Al Dimeola, and finally the chord soloist Wes Mongomery are my picks. Check them out.
Tony Emmanuel, Brett Garsed, Andy Wood, Richie Kotzen, Pat Methany, Michael Lee Firkins, Jeff Loomis, Eric Johnson, Steve Morse, Paul Gilbert are mine-All your choices are Monsters as well.........
Yeah ok, he was a pioneer that changed the way the guitar was played. He really didn't have a big ego, but DLR did! You speak as if you knew him....😮👊🏻
C’mon guys. Of course EVH had a huge ego, he was a guitar player 😂. I didn’t like that he said Randy said in an interview that he learned everything from him. Pure nonsense. Randy was his own man and what he actually said was that he hated doing the tapping because of course that’s Eddie’s thing but the kid’s expected that from him but he didn’t like doing it. I’ve never understood why people pit Guitar players against each other especially and perhaps only Rock guitar players 🤷♂️. All the greats have their own style which makes them them. Stupid
@@JuanReyes-ht1bd People pit one against the other in everything ,but Eddie was first of the NEW ERA guitar players and everyone was influenced by him. I can listen to any song from the late 1970s and tell you if it was PRE or post Van Halen just by the sound of the guitar. One day i doubted myself . I was listening to HOLD THE LINE by TOTO. I soon after learned that Steve Lukather was listening to Eruption before he recorded the song. Eddie reinvented the instrument.
Eddie may have been amazing and innovative, but in the end it was all musical "wankery." No one will remember his songs or playing, except maybe at frat party keggers. Jimmy Page on the other hand is legendary; the Tolkien of rock guitar. His playing and Led Zep's music will live on forever.
For some reason either band has really good live shows in their prime recorded i dont know why.But you know they had shows that blew the roof right off and people seen them.The recording is all the evidence you need plus nancy wilson said she seen zepplin do half a set with acoustics and mandolin and then go full electric they were an all round killer muscician band with a mood repotoire and eddy was once in a lifetime.
and precise at playing for hours on end without a single glitch or mistake like very few guitarists have ever been able to do.... Jimmy Page IS a sloppy guitar player... and No... It did NOT add to his status... What a stupid and ridiculous thing to say.. It just proves he's very much a studio musician and very lucky he never had to rely on gigging to make a living... And clapton is in many ways just like Angus Young... If either had to play outside the simpleton 3 and 4 progressive chords they spent their entire lives within, they'd have died decades ago... Both extremely confined and limited in actual capabilities as guitar players..
Hendrix was the greatest electric guitar player that ever lived ! Period ! Without JIMI there wouldn't of been an Eddie Van Halen !!!!!! End of story !!!!!!!
And without Edward, there wouldn't have been a pioneer who rewrote the way the guitar is played! And your voice on Hendricks is just an opinion! PERIOD! 🔴⚪⚫👑
Hendrix was never mentioned as an influence of Van Halen so how can you say there would be no VH without Hendrix? Stevie Ray was also way better than Hendrix. People just think it’s hip to say Hendrix. Eddie and SRV are the greatest of all time
I'll take any guitar giant from the 70s over the 80s guitar virtuosos any day. Except for EVH and maybe Steve Vai, I find most that style of playing just technique and soulless. I could probably listen to about 2 minutes of Yngvie but that's about it.
Zeppelin has stood the test of time better than Van Halen. My kids like classic rock from the 60's, 70's, 80's including Zeppelin but don't get all the hype with early Van Halen. They see it as songs that lack depth with sub-par vocals
Do some actual research. Page was actually rewriting the song as he was playing. Called improvisation. Sometimes it worked beautifully and sometimes it didn't.
@@Brotherhood.777Page also on several songs in the studio, overdubbed several times, like Achilles Last Stand was 12 overdubs. It sounder pretty damn great at Knebworth live (1979), I doubt Eddie could have handled doing that live. I’d rather have concerts sound different each night, then going to see a band several times sounding the same. Both Plant & Page improvised, performing with their soulful passion, far better then robotic perfection.
Jimmy was sloppy because a lot of the studio product couldn't be recreated on stage because of all the multi track recording he used to do. Stop looking at the live performance as something that is supposed to be an accurate recreation of the produced material. They are entirely two different products.
I wouldn't show my face in public if I sold millions of records then played the songs on the records differently because I can't play what I recorded. People fell n love with the records, not the nightly interpretations.
@@jk-76 And no one knows who the fuck you are, do they? Look, improvisation and the blues is as much a part of the blues standard as singing about a teenage girlfriend.
Yeah, Jimmy was occasionally sloppy playing live, but Jimmy was simply a better player period. Eddie was all flash and technical, Jimmy was rock solid, only using flash when it suited the song.
@bgandjsco1 Better in some areas - the only problem is Eddie played the same show off solo in every song. Page was a composer. Van Halen was a party band. Zeppelin had a lot more substance and were much more serious. Zeppelin paved the way for imitators like Van Halen. Eddie used the tapping trick till it became very boring. Other than that, there's really nothing very innovative about his playing. He just copied Hendrix Etc.....But you live in a fantasy world so you're incapable of facing the truth. Maybe you should seek professional help.
Nah, when you were born was very sloppy, other than that, Zoso was just the best guitarist 🎸, musician, songwriter, producer,session player, ex yard bird,oh yeah front man of the worlds Greatest RocknRoll SUPERBAND. James Dean was soo dominant in his craft , don't have enough time to list all the Compliments of the demi- God - James Patrick PAGE. 🎯
2 very different guitarists. I am in no way a Led Zeppelin fan. Great studio albums. Very melodic. Brilliant songwriting, melodic and creative. But they were terrible live. Loud, sloppy and unfocused. Van Halen wrote terrible songs. Lousy vocals, unmelodic. Guitar solos that had nothing to do with the songs. All glitz, no substance. Neither guitarist belongs on a list of the top 200 of all time. Both are extremely overrated. They illustrate a lack of talent and ability. Sad very, very disappointing.
Brother, you're really on an island with that assessment, way against the grain, but I respect your stones to say it. In the ensuing guitar wars, I'm standing behind you. BTW, never saw Zeppelin live, but did see Robert Plant solo and he was brilliant, but did see VH live during the 84 tour, still with DLR. Without a doubt the worst concert I've ever seen, 3 sloppy drunks and Alex. Totally ruined VH for me.
Eddie is an idiot to pick a fight with page…page doesn’t need criticism, he paid his deuce…and contributed to the history of music. Absolute no reason to go after page..it’s even disrespect.
Paid his dues. Like to a professional organization.
Not deuce, like dropping a #2.😂
In more ways than just Led Zeppelin.
I'll say this, I love them all but Page was the classy one, never much at insults.
Exactly! He always said nice things about others, encouraging their playing, not putting anyone down.
I’m a Page disciple. Completely different styles and Zeppelin songs have much musicality.
From the mid 70s to early 80s, Page's playing was often marred by drugs and alcohol. I saw him perform live in 1986 and he was absolutely amazing.
Outrider tour? I saw that in Miami Page was on fire that night. Hurricane Gilbert has just passed through and Jimmy brought some much needed distraction after that.
With PAGE+ PLANT and the Firm, PAGE and the black crowes were all amazing, so bummed out Bonzo passed, I would have seen them in Madison Square Garden N.Y.😢
Can't say enough compliments when it comes to the coolest best musical genius ever.😮😊
Jimmy is the Wizard ⚡💫
I could listen to Jimmy Page all day long.
Yup 24/7 365 a year I'm 60 best talented guitarist, musician, producer,songwriter, ets etc etc 😂😊
@davidlishin5583 same here 61 years active ⚡🎸✨
@3:18: Brian May being stand-in for EVH..
It turns out that Page in that era when Eddie saw Zeppelin live Jimmy was recovering from a broken hand. I like Eddie but that was a prick thing to say. Jimmy page was a session musician and producer Eddie how ever great, he is a one trick pony it all begins to sound like one big eruption solo. I loved there first album the best and 1984.
I'm recovering from drop wrist I slept on my arm wrong and it fucks with your nerves I couldn't play a open A cord they say it takes 4 months to heal but I started doing my own physical therapy I can play more chords now and tie my shoes simple things that I couldn't do the 1st week of this thing I've never heard of until I got it
it sucks but it's more common than I thought oh well I'll keep fighting along until I get back to how I was playing anyway have a good day
@@rayfabris2512 So image your on stage in the biggest rock band trying to keep the American Tour going recovering from a broken hand and some a-hole in a virtually unknown band at the time criticizes your playing duh he's playing like he has a broken hand Eddie is very observant. Love Eddie but not the sharpest tool in the shed.
@joebruzzese9288 I agree anyway I respect them both have a good day and ROCK ON
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I've listened to live recordings from both and I love them both. I do prefer JP for reasons unknown to me. A total gut thing.
Whole different age. Whole different genre. Of music. I love and miss Eddie but Jimmy was badass for what he did whole different style of music
Only a few years apart. Not a different age, not that different in music. Neither one played a fucking '"GENRE"
Jimmy Page had an injured fret hand at that forum 1973 concert Eddie is lucky they did not cancel or postpone that show
There was PAGE on a level so far from everyone else who couldn't begin to dream that they were anyway near JAMES PATRICK PAGE#1🎯
Well except Blackmore
That's right. Lifting the hand mid-riff to expose the open strings. Whoever did this video knew that as a guitarist, and a good one.
This is funny. Eddie calling Jimmy Page sloppy, when there was many times when Eddie was sloppy due to drugs and alcohol.
Jimmy had been sloppy his whole career ..big diference
I think Eddie is referring to his sloppiness when both are sober
@@timsears951 I agree
Dontcha know? Rules applied for others but not Eddie. Like can’t play outside the band.
@@timsears951 Vincent Van Gogh arguably had 'sloppy' brush strokes but the important thing is that his paintings worked : Jimmy's music works .
I’ve heard many times about Page being sloppy live but I couldn’t give two craps about that. His legacy and catalog is freaking awesome and he changed his sound from album to album without being boring by playing the same basic notes over and over. Besides,only guitarists themselves even notice him being “sloppy”. The average fan doesn’t see or hear that.
this is the second time I have heard about Eddie being critical about guitarist .he was also critical of Eric Clapton
When? Clapton was Eddie’s main influence. EVH fell out with Clapton over the Starfleet project. EVH & BM did a throw away blues and dedicated it to Clapton who took offence.
@@timboz2569 he was very true had just saw a video about this
@@timboz2569 there is a video I saw very recently about this ..yes Clapton was a huge influence on Eddie bu Eddie was critical of him many years down the road
I’ll take Jimmy Page over Eddie Van Halen any day. Liked Van Halen’s first album. But after that they lost me. Eddie’s solo became tapping fills. Lots of fast screeching notes with no heart or soul in it. I think Eddie’s ego was bigger than he was! Calling someone sloppy yet appearing onstage drunk or high himself. Pot calling the kettle black. Not to mention the way Eddie treated Michael Anthony and Sammy Hagar.
FACT:Eddie Van Halen wanted Dayrl Hall to replace David Lee Roth NOT Sammy Hagar! Also,Patty Smyth was on Eddie Van Halen’s list to replace David Lee Roth! At the end of the day,and with some arm twisting,Sammy Hagar took the position,and Eddie Van Halen HATED John Oates also! The Hall&Oates debacle started in the second half of the 1980’s when EVH ran his mouth,telling Daryl Hall you should break up with John Oates,and come to Van Halen! Since then,Hall&Oates were feuding behind closed doors,right up to the present day of Hall&Oates fighting one another in court for the catalog control of their material!!!
It has to be a rough and tumble world in high-stakes rock and roll fame being one’s continual agent. Eddie collaborated with his idol EC on the tune bluesbreaker but then starts ripping on him. Ripped on RR while playing the LA circuit, ripped on Joe Perry while touring with Aerosmith, ripped on on his idol JPage…. Rock and roll was surely born of rebellion - RIP Eddie
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Jimmy page was interesting to listen to, van halen was not
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Page wrote classical master pieces while eddie never wrote a stairway to heaven or anyclose to it . Man Jimmy music similar to a Beethoven piece Jimmy wrote music has not ben seen quite that great i don't kniw but jimmy n rhodes wrote music lkke it came from another planet this is Jessie Cristy husband God bless us all 💕🙏
I love EVH! I always found Page to be great player as well, just different, and that's OK. A lot of our "gods", whether musician or athlete, etc., tend to have fragile egos.
They're human.
Keep rockin' Jimmy!
R.I.P. King Edward.
A case of apples and oranges. Both were geniuses at what they did.
Not many know of course actually, Jimmy Page saw Randy Rhoads with QR at the Whiskey with Robert Plant. Jimmy went up to the dressing room after and met Randy because he really liked his playing and was impressed and this was way before his morphed into the monster with Ozzy even.
8:56. Ka-shmear. Sounds delicious. 😂
Saw page bout 16x.71..73.75.77.2x each .83...85,86 2x each..88 2x both pg.plnt tours.saw halen 1x.ed great chops.speed .page art in motion great songwriting diff moods of song.more vers.music imo..yes jim peaks valleys..on stage page had many mor layers to cover imo..
I've heard of many things and times Eddie said not so nice things about a few people.
I know a few musicians from Detroit that saw page in the 60’s that said he was sloppy, but man that guy sure could write amazing songs i seen him twice and he played great, tons of bootlegs also so maybe these people were just jealous, but hey nobody perfect every show,
I am pretty sure that I remember reading an interview in musician magazine with Jimmy page. during the interview the guy asking the questions said Mr. Paige Eddie Van Halen says you were a great innovator but live you played like a child with a broken hand. What do you think of this guy? Jimmy page’s response was“ Eddie who?“. I have to say that’s classy.
So sick of the thought Eddie invented tapping..he became great at it,but no way he was first to do it
Get some therapy for that! Wah! And he never proclaimed to have invented tapping... The media did! Now run along and vote for Kamala! 🔴⚪⚫👑
@@spiccolirocks3580 Trumpers trying to portray themselves as rock judges-LOL.
@ford289cid7 I don't need to portray anything! I have an extensive rock lineage unlike yourself! Now go play with your sb ford engine... Or maybe you would like to debate about my 65 fastback with a 289 hi-po!
@@spiccolirocks3580 Yeah you have an extensive rock lineage. That's why you talk about Trump first and your rock "observations" are lame as hell.
@@ford289cid7 lame as hell? You can't even comprehend a post! I never mentioned Trump when I replied! And the Kamala thing was second. I could tell by the way you were whining! So go take your meds and cry about the greatest guitar player who ever stepped foot on planet earth inventing tapping! Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Edward Van Halen! 🙏🏻🔴⚪⚫👑👊🏻
I could site a few differences between Van Halen and Led Zeppelin but I won't go into them here but both bands did have something in common as they both broke the rules and ended up changing the musical landscape as we then knew it bottom line and if it weren't for Edward being the prodigy that he was there would be no Van Halen because he was the one that made the band work in the first place.
There is no rivalry here, Page was done and only released one more album when Eddie burst onto the scene.
Allen Holdsworth, Frank Grambele, Mateo, Guthrie Grovan, George Benson, Al Dimeola, and finally the chord soloist Wes Mongomery are my picks. Check them out.
Tony Emmanuel, Brett Garsed, Andy Wood, Richie Kotzen, Pat Methany, Michael Lee Firkins, Jeff Loomis, Eric Johnson, Steve Morse, Paul Gilbert are mine-All your choices are Monsters as well.........
@@bottleforty1 Hendrix was the only Innovator that ever came out of the guitar hero era !
@@JohnWahlers 👍👍
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@sgt.grinch3299 me
U can't even mention ed van halens name when talking about the goat named JIMMY PAGE 🎸🎵🎶🎯
Eddie's ego was bigger than his talent
Yeah ok, he was a pioneer that changed the way the guitar was played. He really didn't have a big ego, but DLR did! You speak as if you knew him....😮👊🏻
What.? He was the most humble guy.
C’mon guys. Of course EVH had a huge ego, he was a guitar player 😂. I didn’t like that he said Randy said in an interview that he learned everything from him. Pure nonsense. Randy was his own man and what he actually said was that he hated doing the tapping because of course that’s Eddie’s thing but the kid’s expected that from him but he didn’t like doing it. I’ve never understood why people pit Guitar players against each other especially and perhaps only Rock guitar players 🤷♂️. All the greats have their own style which makes them them. Stupid
@@JuanReyes-ht1bd People pit one against the other in everything ,but Eddie was first of the NEW ERA guitar players and everyone was influenced by him. I can listen to any song from the late 1970s and tell you if it was PRE or post Van Halen just by the sound of the guitar. One day i doubted myself . I was listening to HOLD THE LINE by TOTO. I soon after learned that Steve Lukather was listening to Eruption before he recorded the song. Eddie reinvented the instrument.
Steve and Edward were really good friends. Steve Lukather is a beast on guitar and misses Edward so much.
Eddie may have been amazing and innovative, but in the end it was all musical "wankery." No one will remember his songs or playing, except maybe at frat party keggers. Jimmy Page on the other hand is legendary; the Tolkien of rock guitar. His playing and Led Zep's music will live on forever.
The rain song , ten years gone ....
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@@dimebagvinnie644many others too.
A technical master like eddie hears every mistake in anyones playing. And every one knows jimmy could be very sloppy live.
Saw RANDY in 82 - E.O.D.
Randy=gay
@@제이에스-x7l no Chen, he was from the Church of England.. you... 🤡🤡
Jimmy was sloppy but that also added to his status ...people simply just ignored it for the most part ..but a lot of us knew
For some reason either band has really good live shows in their prime recorded i dont know why.But you know they had shows that blew the roof right off and people seen them.The recording is all the evidence you need plus nancy wilson said she seen zepplin do half a set with acoustics and mandolin and then go full electric they were an all round killer muscician band with a mood repotoire and eddy was once in a lifetime.
Eddie could honestly be critical considering until his drugs and booze problems, was as absolutely crisp a
and precise at playing for hours on end without a single glitch or mistake like very few guitarists have ever been able to do.... Jimmy Page IS a sloppy guitar player... and No... It did NOT add to his status... What a stupid and ridiculous thing to say.. It just proves he's very much a studio musician and very lucky he never had to rely on gigging to make a living... And clapton is in many ways just like Angus Young... If either had to play outside the simpleton 3 and 4 progressive chords they spent their entire lives within, they'd have died decades ago... Both extremely confined and limited in actual capabilities as guitar players..
Hendrix was the greatest electric guitar player that ever lived ! Period ! Without JIMI there wouldn't of been an Eddie Van Halen !!!!!! End of story !!!!!!!
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@tonyhuber8115 you sure are !
And without Edward, there wouldn't have been a pioneer who rewrote the way the guitar is played! And your voice on Hendricks is just an opinion! PERIOD! 🔴⚪⚫👑
@@spiccolirocks3580 Learn how to spell Hendrix before you pontificate on rock, Trumper.
Hendrix was never mentioned as an influence of Van Halen so how can you say there would be no VH without Hendrix? Stevie Ray was also way better than Hendrix. People just think it’s hip to say Hendrix. Eddie and SRV are the greatest of all time
I'll take any guitar giant from the 70s over the 80s guitar virtuosos any day. Except for EVH and maybe Steve Vai, I find most that style of playing just technique and soulless. I could probably listen to about 2 minutes of Yngvie but that's about it.
Zeppelin has stood the test of time better than Van Halen. My kids like classic rock from the 60's, 70's, 80's including Zeppelin but don't get all the hype with early Van Halen. They see it as songs that lack depth with sub-par vocals
That's really funny! 🔴⚪⚫🙏🏻👑
"Watch your honey drip, can't keep away", real deep.
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@@richardthompson6366 Sure, they had songs like that, but they also had things like The Rain Song, Ten Years Gone, etc, etc.
LED ZEP... 300 MILLION ALBUM SOLD...VH.. 56 MILLION... NOT EVEN CLOSE.
78 million... take it easy!
@spiccolirocks3580 NICE LIE... 300 MILL...FACT. GOOGLE .
Eddie was correct. Page was sloppy in live shows. But he didn't care. He was on smack. It was obvious.
Do some actual research. Page was actually rewriting the song as he was playing. Called improvisation. Sometimes it worked beautifully and sometimes it didn't.
@@Brotherhood.777Page also on several songs in the studio, overdubbed several times, like Achilles Last Stand was 12 overdubs. It sounder pretty damn great at Knebworth live (1979), I doubt Eddie could have handled doing that live. I’d rather have concerts sound different each night, then going to see a band several times sounding the same. Both Plant & Page improvised, performing with their soulful passion, far better then robotic perfection.
I liked Eddie great guitar player but nowhere near the Mastery and Artistic Acompkishments and Mistic that Page deliver its really a no contest.
Jimmy was sloppy because a lot of the studio product couldn't be recreated on stage because of all the multi track recording he used to do. Stop looking at the live performance as something that is supposed to be an accurate recreation of the produced material. They are entirely two different products.
I wouldn't show my face in public if I sold millions of records then played the songs on the records differently because I can't play what I recorded. People fell n love with the records, not the nightly interpretations.
@@jk-76 And no one knows who the fuck you are, do they? Look, improvisation and the blues is as much a part of the blues standard as singing about a teenage girlfriend.
Saw them both..... wasn't impressed with either band live 😮😮😮😮
Yeah, Jimmy was occasionally sloppy playing live, but Jimmy was simply a better player period.
Eddie was all flash and technical, Jimmy was rock solid, only using flash when it suited the song.
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Too Bad Eddie couldn't write songs as good as Page. But he wasn't even close, so All he looks like is a show off !
Pffffft! Sure sure good on ya…🙄
Show off... Maybe because he could! Did you ever think of that! 😮
I love the music Eddie wrote and he's a better player than Page.
@bgandjsco1 Better in some areas - the only problem is Eddie played the same show off solo in every song. Page was a composer. Van Halen was a party band. Zeppelin had a lot more substance and were much more serious. Zeppelin paved the way for imitators like Van Halen. Eddie used the tapping trick till it became very boring. Other than that, there's really nothing very innovative about his playing. He just copied Hendrix Etc.....But you live in a fantasy world so you're incapable of facing the truth. Maybe you should seek professional help.
I've seen both live and neither compare to Sophie Lloyd.
Jimmy Page was very sloppy.
Nah, when you were born was very sloppy, other than that, Zoso was just the best guitarist 🎸, musician, songwriter, producer,session player, ex yard bird,oh yeah front man of the worlds Greatest RocknRoll SUPERBAND. James Dean was soo dominant in his craft , don't have enough time to list all the Compliments of the demi- God - James Patrick PAGE. 🎯
2 very different guitarists. I am in no way a Led Zeppelin fan. Great studio albums. Very melodic. Brilliant songwriting, melodic and creative. But they were terrible live. Loud, sloppy and unfocused. Van Halen wrote terrible songs. Lousy vocals, unmelodic. Guitar solos that had nothing to do with the songs. All glitz, no substance. Neither guitarist belongs on a list of the top 200 of all time. Both are extremely overrated. They illustrate a lack of talent and ability. Sad very, very disappointing.
Brother, you're really on an island with that assessment, way against the grain, but I respect your stones to say it. In the ensuing guitar wars, I'm standing behind you. BTW, never saw Zeppelin live, but did see Robert Plant solo and he was brilliant, but did see VH live during the 84 tour, still with DLR. Without a doubt the worst concert I've ever seen, 3 sloppy drunks and Alex. Totally ruined VH for me.
Way overrated! One trick pony.......page was a complete musician.
Led Zepplin's music was much better than Van Halen's period. Jimmy Page was a much more classier guitar player than Eddie van Halen.