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Fenix 7x has been awesome and super functional. Phone call, messages and mobile pay work flawlessly. Sleep and activity tracker compare with almost anything in the market. Better yet a month of battery life. Expensive but a solid buy. I also like the look of Tactix but not for what it offers to a guy that's not Tom Cruz or active military.
No direct watch to mic phone call. Instead calls bring up green or red phone icons with contact info. Simple call back responses are also available. I pair it with Shokz headset to keep my hands free.
Des, Thank you, love your channel and reviews! FYI as of 5-28-23 AMZ. has the Tactix 7 Standard listed at: $849.88! Was going to go for a 7X with the current sale but went this route VIA your affiliate link. Thank you again for all you do, much appreciated!
What an awesome review man. You made my buying experience very pleasant and to the point. Nailed it brother 👌 and best of luck to you. Subscribed and like button smashed 👍
Excellent video, not many people have demonstrated this watch. I have the previous generation version, and the big benefit was the more resilient case and glass compared to the Fenix 6. But now they have the same case material and glass. I think unless I am in need of those tactical features (and I don’t) then the price difference is too high for the style differences and nylon strap. Doesn’t mean I don’t still want one.
Yup, definitely agree that other than the sapphire non-solar, from a hardware perspective it's not quite as different as the Detla to the Fenix 6 as you noted. Also can agree that it doesn't mean that people may still want it 👍 Thanks!
I would like to buy the watch but I am very doubtful about it, as I heard from several people that the watch gets scratches quickly at the slightest interaction with different surfaces, is this the same one you are experiencing? I see that your comments are from last year and would love to hear your opinion after 1 year of use if you still own the watch. thank you
The green light is there to make it compatible to nato night vision goggles. They dont amplify light of a wavelength from about 510 to 540 nanometers which happens to be green light. The whole subject is a little bit more complicated but that sums it up.
And regarding red, a red light preserves the natural night vision of your eyes (and green, as pointed out above), is used to not wash out electronic night vision goggles.)
Maybe someone in those fields would benefit for those extra features on the Tactix but being a long distrance trail runner, I don't see how those additional features can equal to $500-$600 more than the most expensive Fenix 7X. I just don't see how garmin can charge so much.
The cost difference for the highest model is primarily in the Applied Ballistics software and capabilities, which is very expensive and the 'de facto' ballistics software used for long range shooting calculations. The less expensive models have the nylon bands and other features that add the relatively smaller increased cost.
Time another question...Does the Garmin Tactix 7 Pro have a DLC titanium coating, like the Garmin Fenix 7X Sapphire? Since it is not mentioned on the Garmin page!
Nobody can fault you for not knowing the extra flight and tactical features. Those features are only useful or meaningful for a really exclusive group of people.
Last tactix "delta" is still one of my favorite, and should upgrade from fenix just on design of the bezel ..:) For sure not use all func. but the delta back when that came out made my Fenix looks crap..:) Waiting on my Tactix 7 now..:)
I was on the edge to upgrade my Fenix 5X plus for Fenix 7x or even a Epix 2 for his amazing AMOLED screen but the limited battery life and the missing flashlight makes me think twice. But with a tactix 7, I got a Fenix 7x with aviation capabilities like METAR (airport weather forecast) and TAF (predictions for weather forecast), moving map with radio navaids and airports, radio frequencies, everything I need as a student pilot. Great back up if the flying instruments shut down. peace of mind. I learned from my military background that « 2 is 1 and 1 is nothing ». Thanks for sharing great content on your channel.
I believe Antoine may be saying that with a Tactix 7, it’s basically a Fenix 7 with the additional capabilities. You won’t be able to add the aviation capabilities to a Fénix 7 via software update or anything like that.
@@DesFit thank for the fast response. I really like Enduro 2 but I need the aviation capabilities. It is a great watch with huge battery, sapphire solar, AMOLED but I need this capabilities. Not sure if it is a software or something in the hardware is missing. Can you give some additional info about the aviation capabilities and is there anything different in the hardware between Enduro 2 and tactix 7 which lead to missing features ?
It’s nothing from a hardware perspective. It’s just that they chose to include them on the Tactix 7 and not the Enduro 2 based on the target audience for each watch. It would be cool if they had the ability to upgrade a watch with additional software features that cost a bit extra but no ability to do so at this point.
Yes, there is a ballistics version of this watch with those software features but I was mentioning in the video that I don't have expertise on those so I can't really speak to them knowledgeably. Sorry but thanks!
Now the downside is I rarely see the tactix line go on sale compared to the Fenix line. I'm waiting until closer to black Friday or cyber Monday before I make my final choice
Ya I can’t recall ever seeing the Delta go on sale but that seems to be the case for more specialty units where they simply don’t sell the same volume.
I would say that the extra Tactix 7 Pro features might only be of significant value to a very tiny group of people with a lot of spare money to spend. Remember that commercial pilots do get planes with actual instruments in them, and military and police snipers are given ballistic calculators, airborne units are also usually fully equipped, and that more or less means that this watch is there for any private person who for whatever reason think they need the particular data. Of course some will buy it simply for the 'image' that comes with it but for the very vast majority the Fenix 7, in one version or other, will be plenty so satisfy requirements.
@@_J.F_Wait. So you are telling me the Garmin Tactix those Delta guys wear while pictured shaking Biden's hand after Oct 7 are not standard issue?!?!?!?
Great video! (as always) When watches look so similar to one another, it would be very helpful if there were labels above each one when discussing and comparing. Sometimes hard to determine which is which. Thanks!
Hi! I work from home and walk my dog three times a day. I'm no pro, but I'm pretty good at throwing the ball at my dog. Do I need the Tactik 7 Pro Ballistic? Thank you ...
Solar or die. I live in the desert and shoot 🔫 in the mountains. Worst case scenario, solar is your best friend. Nice review, I would like to see more of the phone to watch reviews for everyday wear. Thanks 👍
Since they’re already packing tons of feature in the Tactix. Might as well put in SCUBA and freediving activity profiles in there to make it sort of like an “end game” watch.
I think there may be a difference in the water resistance rating from their dive watches to this model with 10ATM. I actually have a question out to them about it and will try to get back to confirm.
do you happen to know if the metal hardware on the nylon strap is titanim as well, or stainless? reason for my question is that I have a metal allergy and cannot wear stainless.
Hi, i have a question. For the fenix 7x sapphire do they do same thing as the fenix 5x sapphir? Like, for example: in the fenix 5x sapphire edition you can add the lbs of the weights when working out?
I posted a vid on youtube of me testing the tactix7 solar by leaving it in the sun at 78% battery for more than an hour and checking plus testing it throughout the day for several more hours… still stayed at 78%….
Thanks for a very useful review. For information such as at 9.32 . Do we need to connect with wifi and phone to get all these real time info on the watch ? Thank you and keep up the great work. Subscribed and liked ❤
I find it REALLY strange that Garmin went with the green LED on the T7. In training we have always been taught that the light that is less easily seen by the enemy is dark red. Having a green light burst like this will not only destroy your natural night vision but will immediately reveal your position in the field! Ridiculous
At the end I picked up Fenix 7 instead of 7x because 7x is quite a big watch and it looks like an alarm clock on the wrist , it's quite impractical and annoying during climbing.
How do the buttons feel on your tactix 7? Coming from a remix 6x, it’s like there is more travel and even some rattle on the tactix buttons… at least on the one I picked up. My Felix buttons feel solid in comparison
What do you think about Software Version 13.22 - Backlight Bug? Your backlight always turn on when viewing maps, starting a new GPS activity, etc.. No way to turn backlight completely off.
Update firmware 13.22 : Garmin has changed the backlight behavior : " The new backlight behavior is the intended result for the v13.22 software update. For example - the backlight will turn on when: - Acquiring GPS to start an outdoor activity or when acquiring GPS to save a location waypoint. - Viewing the Map whether by itself as a feature or within an activity. - Going into the Sunrise & Sunset glance and viewing the Sun position menu on the map." the behavior described above has been introduced by Garmin with update to 13.22, and can NOT be disabled by the user ! The switching on of the lighting in the above mentioned cases is inevitable and can NOT be deactivated by the user. This is also confirmed by Garmin. With this, Garmin has made this actually tactical watch unusable for the military, because there is no option to disable this. I look at the map in the field and give away my position by the light. Life threatening. The problem is discussed in the forum, and Garmin's statement: "This backlight behavior is intentional and we have no plans to change it.
Nope, the Delta is based on the Fenix 6 series and the Tactix 7 is based on the Fenix 7 so the underlying base software and fitness features are different. I believe the tactical features are similar though.
Excellent review.... I just bought a tactix 7 pro My biggest problem is that I can't find the widget hunt.....and one of the reasons that I bought it is that I am a hunter...could you give me a solution please?
It should be available at the bottom of the list of activities (upper right hand button) but if it's not there you should be able to add it (the + option at the bottom of the list). Hope that helps. Thanks!
In your opinion, should I get the Coros vertix 2 or the Garmin Fenix 7X? I know the latter option is newer, but I hear the vertix 2 has a longer battery life, can't confirm that though lol. Is the fenix 7X really worth 1k USD???
Check out this video which gives some real-world comparisons between the Vertix 2 and Enduro 2 (which is just a Fenix 7X with even longer battery life). th-cam.com/video/JelJnlIX2MA/w-d-xo.html If the longest battery life is your main concern, yes the Vertix 2 has longer battery life but the Fenix 7X and Enduro 2 have substantially more features.
i wonder if Garmin is developing something for astronauts... i mean, there's the Omega Speedmaster that made it to the moon... at this stage, Garmin's watches top shelf watches are so niche in their purpose, yet still desirable for those who don't do those particular activities... much like people who collect fancy diver watches when they don't actually use them to scuba... and im sure those with Garmin MARQ watches don't necessarily drive F1 cars...
I think we even see this with the Fenix line where I am sure there are plenty of people out there who just like them because of the look and/or the status, and more power to them if they have the means to purchase one. No judgement. And it's interesting to see Garmin take it even further with these!
They could add a watch to Marq series but i don’t think it worth the money because the omega speedmaster is analog watch that wearing the omega 3861 calibre to improving the power reserve, chronometric performance and magnetic resistance for that job any Garmin with built in compass will do the same job..
I love the old tactic delta and this one is great but new watch faces are really unreadable, so small! One of the best feature of the old Tactix was the clean design and readable watchface.
I’m just a mountain biker and backpacker who likes the style of the Tactix over a 7x SS. No HALO jumping for this guy. I mean, when you are already in the $1k range for a watch, what’s another hundo?
@@DesFit I currently have a Fenix 5x Sapphire and think I just want a change in appearance since I’m “upgrading” for some of the new features on the latest watches. Just curious, have you heard about a difference in clarity of the solar sapphire glass on a F7x versus the non-solar Sapphire on the standard Tactix 7? Some users have reported the solar glass seems to look “foggier” than the non-solar version, especially indoors. Appreciate the great content!
It was well over 2 years from the Tactix Detla to the Tactix 7. I'd anticipate quite a while before they release a new version since the 7 just came out last year.
Question as well - what of the new watches are you liking the best for daily use? Going Epix like everyone else? Can’t believe the nylon band is $129 if you buy it separately - crazy. And last - good lord could Garmin get any better at specialized functions, settings, and features?! All of these are incredible if you’re in that field. Even Hunt profile is crazy!
@@DesFit Yes that’s what I am desperate to use it for! I constantly am using my phone for my flashlight, and periodically grab even a headlamp! Are you not noticing the extra weight? Seriously loved this review because not as many are reviewing it and I’m seriously wrestling with it as a genuine option for me because I love the design over the 7X
Shame that the "hunt" profile is reserved for the Tactix, it would be right at home on the regular Fēnix series watches. While I'm sure there's crossover between military and hunters, I've personally never needed night vision or a Killswitch to hunt Pennsylvania whitetail, but I'd love to have the hunt profile on my 6x pro, I just can't justify the cost of the Tactix for the access to it.
Nothing wrong with the pace Des - gets all the information in and makes the content sound more compelling. Nothing worse that those channels when the creator just drones on for what seems like forever 😴😂. Love the channel - thanks for the great content 👍
Update firmware 13.22 : Garmin has changed the backlight behavior : " The new backlight behavior is the intended result for the v13.22 software update. For example - the backlight will turn on when: - Acquiring GPS to start an outdoor activity or when acquiring GPS to save a location waypoint. - Viewing the Map whether by itself as a feature or within an activity. - Going into the Sunrise & Sunset glance and viewing the Sun position menu on the map." With this, Garmin has made this actually tactical watch unusable for the military, because there is no option to disable this. I look at the map in the field and give away my position by the light. Life threatening. The problem is discussed in the forum, and Garmin's statement: "This backlight behavior is intentional and we have no plans to change it.
@@DesFit that’s the question. Who really has an “always on” display. I know you can download watch faces on the Ticwatch that almost stay on. Just dim ever so slightly. The Cyber watch face for example.
On my Tactix Delta, you go to Sytem/Backlight, then select either during activity or not, then timeout. There is an option for no timeout. Then the backlight stays on until you press it to turn off. I would expect the other Fenix 6 and 7 watches to do the same. Just testing it now to see how long it stays on.
This review is fantastic, not even Garmin could do it better. 🤩 ... my honest opinion is that Garmin Fenix 7x is the major concept...tactix, Enduro and so on are different adjustments to catch the attention of specific group of customers without actually making a really different watch...I would say it is more a marketing operation rather than a production one.
Thanks for your review! It almost seems that the “base” Tactix might hit that sweet spot that you can’t get in a full size Fenix7x… which is a full size watch with the flashlight but none of the solar to “cloud up” the screen. Do you think the non-solar Tactix would be more viewable because of this? I love my Fenix 7x pro solar, but have to admit that those extra layers of solar, touch an sapphire have made the screen pretty aweful compared to the previous top of the line Fenix 6x. Thanks
I don't think the removal of solar would make any difference - it's more of sapphire vs non-sapphire. There is a slight difference between the Tactix 7 Pro vs the Fenix 7X Solar (non-sapphire) that are shown in the video whereas the sapphire has a little bit more glare at some angles.
My Fēnix 7 sapphire titanium pro was very clear and crisp. Tried the 6s and it had poor contrast oddly. Got the 7x SS and it’s by far the most cloudy screen. I’ve been experimenting with various versions, and I don’t think it’s the sapphire unless it’s something unique to Garmin’s sapphire crystal. I have high end watches with sapphire that are perfectly clear head on-maybe some glare to the side. Personally, I think it may be a combination of factors for the 7, but the main one may be the touchscreen layer. Not sure though, many companies can achieve perfectly clear screens with touchscreens. I also tried the 7 Solar with no sapphire glass and it was still cloudy looking. My 6 Pro Titanium was VERY clear but no solar. Anyone with a non-solar 7 able to weigh in?
@@mantykarhu I pulled the trigger and ordered a Tactix 7 (from a trusted company with a great return policy) to compare side by side to my Fenix 7xPro Solar Sapphire. I could tell an immediate difference in general "readability" of the screens. I have managed to get some good pics that are pretty explanatory, but I guess can't post on here. The lettering on the Tactix is just brighter, crisper and easier to see in everyday settings. The black background looks blacker and makes the black background of the 7x look slightly maroon. Not to mention, the absence of the solar ring is just cleaner. I've not seen significant gains in battery from the last two generations of solar Fenix's that I've owned, so doing away with that solar layer, in my humble opinion, makes this screen just a bit clearer... enough to be like my good old non-solar Fenix 5 and early 6. I prefer the more modern appearing bezel on the T7 and have already removed most of the "tactical stuff" which I won't use and set it up just like my F7 for running and other regular sports activities. I'm SUPER happy with the standard Tactix and after 4 or 5 straight generational upgrades through the Fenix line, will be selling the F7xSS.
Sapphire is always always always better. Not even sure why there is a debate. It's either you can afford the sapphire or you can't. There is a reason Rolex glass and all other glass of high end watches are sapphire. My tactix 7 pro sapphire solar non ballistics comes in next week. I never thought I'd put down my Rolex but the health data and monitoring of things has become important . GARMIN will be my new primary watch.
@@keithcooper6905 Hey, I have been trying I find comparisons of this! seems some people don't understand and think they look the same but from some photos it seems obvious! is there anyway of seeing the photos you have to compare? Would be greatly appreciated!
Will definitely be looking to replace my Charlie with this guy. Super sick and tired of draining the battery by bumping the GPS button, which was fixed in the Delta but there wasn't enough of an upgrade to justify the cost. Love the people in the comments "buh is it really worth it buh" Well if my life potentially depends on being able to read that GPS grid under night vision, yeah I'd say it's worth it. Lots of the little stuff is niceties, but that one feature alone is critical, speaking from experience.
I cannot imagine a situation where I would be wearing night vision and my life being dependent on looking at my watch to know where I was. It's a nice watch but, the extra features do not benefit me, which is fine, I got the Fenix 7X SS. In the UK, you are paying £200 for a slightly different bezel, a green LED and some software tweaks. If I did need those features, I would be issued with it and not have to rely on a civilian watch. But, that's just my opinion.
@@pauljnelson Clearly you're not in the Canadian Military. I was in a LAV that snapped a radio antenna, had no backup radio, no DAGR, no TACNAV, had literally nothing but my watch and I had to be able to read it under night vision while moving. So while it's neat to say "it'd be issued" that's an absolute fallacy for a lot of units and a lot of jobs. The existing solutions often aren't as good as what's available on the private market either, and the update time on most DAGR system's is awful long for anything time sensitive like fire missions. Hell I had a DAGR shit the bed on my section commander's course. I'm good with a map and compass but it's a lot more effective when trying to recce a location to have a GPS.
@@justinpeck3667 you're right, I'm not, I'm in the British Military. We're taught not to rely on technology, it's there as a back up. Besides, there are much better private handhelds that have better accuracy, resiliance and longevity. This is a watch with small GPS antennas plus, despite its battery stamina, cannot easily be recharged in the field. Hardly something is be willing to bet my life on when required.
@@pauljnelson Yeah maps don't work so good at 30km/h cross country in the dark, ask me how I know. I've worked with lots of Brits you can't lie to me- you like your toys as much as the next group- the difference is your issued toys work. As far as accuracy you obviously haven't used one much, because despite the small antenna the accuracy is roughly +/- 5m and the update cycle is far faster than a DAGR. Prior to the Tactix my backup was a 701: similar size, similar antenna, no issues with accuracy or tracking. I still the 701 dismounted as it takes AAA's but I've used the Tactix with the GPS frequently for 11 day light exes without running out of power. I'm also primarily mechanized so power is less of an issue and GPS becomes more important. Again, sure it's a backup, but if your TACNAV shits the bed good luck navigating with a map. Hard to pace bead a vehicle cross country. But I've only used it in like 7 countries and all kinds of terrain, totally untrustworthy compared to the Queen's solution.
@@justinpeck3667 there's a difference between liking toys and being reliant on them. As for using Garmin watches, you've made an assumption there, I've had one since the Fenix 5, through the 6X Pro and now the 7X SS. The last one uses exactly the same as the Tactix 7 with the same accuracy. If it works for you, that's fine but, the Tactix is a niche product that many don't need and are just as entitled to their opinion as anyone else. It does not make your choice any less valid.
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我想问下，红色led灯和绿色led灯的区别主要是什么？是有不同的作用吗？
Tactix just looks better with the flat faced case.
Was honestly thinking the same thing, this video definitely explained the differences beyond the appearance though.
This is also my opinion.
Spot on!
Fenix 7x has been awesome and super functional. Phone call, messages and mobile pay work flawlessly. Sleep and activity tracker compare with almost anything in the market. Better yet a month of battery life. Expensive but a solid buy.
I also like the look of Tactix but not for what it offers to a guy that's not Tom Cruz or active military.
can we make an call on fenix 7x ? never heard of it..
No direct watch to mic phone call. Instead calls bring up green or red phone icons with contact info. Simple call back responses are also available. I pair it with Shokz headset to keep my hands free.
I use it for search and rescue because it's touch screen and the maps are highly detailed
Tom Cruz! 😂 That would be an epic character
so do these have enough internal memory or has that been an issue? is there a way to add memory?? can u delete things to increase memory??? thanks
Des,
Thank you, love your channel and reviews! FYI as of 5-28-23 AMZ. has the Tactix 7 Standard listed at: $849.88! Was going to go for a 7X with the current sale but went this route VIA your affiliate link. Thank you again for all you do, much appreciated!
Thanks so much David, that’s awesome of you! Much appreciated and enjoy your new watch!
Great review and I love you being honest about areas where you are not an expert (e.g. like aviation)!
Thanks John!
Thank you for doing all these detailed reviews!
Sure thing!
What an awesome review man. You made my buying experience very pleasant and to the point. Nailed it brother 👌 and best of luck to you. Subscribed and like button smashed 👍
Thanks so much! Glad the info helped 👍
Excellent video, not many people have demonstrated this watch. I have the previous generation version, and the big benefit was the more resilient case and glass compared to the Fenix 6. But now they have the same case material and glass. I think unless I am in need of those tactical features (and I don’t) then the price difference is too high for the style differences and nylon strap.
Doesn’t mean I don’t still want one.
Yup, definitely agree that other than the sapphire non-solar, from a hardware perspective it's not quite as different as the Detla to the Fenix 6 as you noted. Also can agree that it doesn't mean that people may still want it 👍 Thanks!
Excellent review as always. Got my Tactix 7 Pro and am loving it.
Nice! Enjoy your new watch.
i might invest in a tactix 7pro, could you tell me if swimrun activity is implemented in it or other multisport activity ? i would use those
Yup, it has swim run as well as triathlon
@@DesFit thank you !
I would like to buy the watch but I am very doubtful about it, as I heard from several people that the watch gets scratches quickly at the slightest interaction with different surfaces, is this the same one you are experiencing? I see that your comments are from last year and would love to hear your opinion after 1 year of use if you still own the watch. thank you
The green light is there to make it compatible to nato night vision goggles. They dont amplify light of a wavelength from about 510 to 540 nanometers which happens to be green light. The whole subject is a little bit more complicated but that sums it up.
Thanks for the additional info!
And regarding red, a red light preserves the natural night vision of your eyes (and green, as pointed out above), is used to not wash out electronic night vision goggles.)
Maybe someone in those fields would benefit for those extra features on the Tactix but being a long distrance trail runner, I don't see how those additional features can equal to $500-$600 more than the most expensive Fenix 7X. I just don't see how garmin can charge so much.
The cost difference for the highest model is primarily in the Applied Ballistics software and capabilities, which is very expensive and the 'de facto' ballistics software used for long range shooting calculations. The less expensive models have the nylon bands and other features that add the relatively smaller increased cost.
well i run and shoot
@@bobbyblade1423 looks like it benefits you then.
The pro doesn't include ballistics. There is a pro for 1299 and then a ballistics for 1599
Then get a different watch
Was waiting to see when you would do this comparison....thanks
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Pretty sure the green light on the tactix is for night time map reading, danger markings are red on a map so a red light would make them invisible.
Time another question...Does the Garmin Tactix 7 Pro have a DLC titanium coating, like the Garmin Fenix 7X Sapphire? Since it is not mentioned on the Garmin page!
Nobody can fault you for not knowing the extra flight and tactical features. Those features are only useful or meaningful for a really exclusive group of people.
EXCELENT REVIEW, CONGRATS!
Thanks!
Last tactix "delta" is still one of my favorite, and should upgrade from fenix just on design of the bezel ..:) For sure not use all func. but the delta back when that came out made my Fenix looks crap..:)
Waiting on my Tactix 7 now..:)
Great video, great watch and I really like the torch but I’ll stick to my Tactix Delta.
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I was on the edge to upgrade my Fenix 5X plus for Fenix 7x or even a Epix 2 for his amazing AMOLED screen but the limited battery life and the missing flashlight makes me think twice. But with a tactix 7, I got a Fenix 7x with aviation capabilities like METAR (airport weather forecast) and TAF (predictions for weather forecast), moving map with radio navaids and airports, radio frequencies, everything I need as a student pilot. Great back up if the flying instruments shut down. peace of mind. I learned from my military background that « 2 is 1 and 1 is nothing ». Thanks for sharing great content on your channel.
Hello. I have got Fenix 7x, but without flight capabilities. Do you have any idea how to install that?
how did you add those aviation features?
I believe Antoine may be saying that with a Tactix 7, it’s basically a Fenix 7 with the additional capabilities. You won’t be able to add the aviation capabilities to a Fénix 7 via software update or anything like that.
@@DesFit thank for the fast response. I really like Enduro 2 but I need the aviation capabilities. It is a great watch with huge battery, sapphire solar, AMOLED but I need this capabilities. Not sure if it is a software or something in the hardware is missing. Can you give some additional info about the aviation capabilities and is there anything different in the hardware between Enduro 2 and tactix 7 which lead to missing features ?
It’s nothing from a hardware perspective. It’s just that they chose to include them on the Tactix 7 and not the Enduro 2 based on the target audience for each watch. It would be cool if they had the ability to upgrade a watch with additional software features that cost a bit extra but no ability to do so at this point.
Hi, a great review. Thanks. I did see mention of 'ballestic' features.explicitly, unless they are covered under one the features those were explained.
Yes, there is a ballistics version of this watch with those software features but I was mentioning in the video that I don't have expertise on those so I can't really speak to them knowledgeably. Sorry but thanks!
Now the downside is I rarely see the tactix line go on sale compared to the Fenix line.
I'm waiting until closer to black Friday or cyber Monday before I make my final choice
Ya I can’t recall ever seeing the Delta go on sale but that seems to be the case for more specialty units where they simply don’t sell the same volume.
I would say that the extra Tactix 7 Pro features might only be of significant value to a very tiny group of people with a lot of spare money to spend. Remember that commercial pilots do get planes with actual instruments in them, and military and police snipers are given ballistic calculators, airborne units are also usually fully equipped, and that more or less means that this watch is there for any private person who for whatever reason think they need the particular data. Of course some will buy it simply for the 'image' that comes with it but for the very vast majority the Fenix 7, in one version or other, will be plenty so satisfy requirements.
I heard SF and Delta guys are given this watch as a standard issue item.
@@bigbigdog That is why you should not trust absolutely anything you hear.
@@_J.F_Wait. So you are telling me the Garmin Tactix those Delta guys wear while pictured shaking Biden's hand after Oct 7 are not standard issue?!?!?!?
Great video! (as always) When watches look so similar to one another, it would be very helpful if there were labels above each one when discussing and comparing. Sometimes hard to determine which is which. Thanks!
Damn, it does everything 😊 Thank you👏🏾
Hi!
I work from home and walk my dog three times a day.
I'm no pro, but I'm pretty good at throwing the ball at my dog.
Do I need the Tactik 7 Pro Ballistic? Thank you ...
Excellent explainer video. Many thanks for clarifying the differences between these two very capable watches.
Glad the information helped. Thanks!
Thanks for the video. Thought it would be called Tactix Echo for some reason 🤔
Sure thing. Looks like they may have dropped the NATO naming convention to align with the Fenix range.
Echo and Foxtrot would work, but Golf presents problem with their Golf focused watches.
Solar or die. I live in the desert and shoot 🔫 in the mountains. Worst case scenario, solar is your best friend. Nice review, I would like to see more of the phone to watch reviews for everyday wear. Thanks 👍
Since they’re already packing tons of feature in the Tactix. Might as well put in SCUBA and freediving activity profiles in there to make it sort of like an “end game” watch.
I think there may be a difference in the water resistance rating from their dive watches to this model with 10ATM. I actually have a question out to them about it and will try to get back to confirm.
Great, let me know what they said.🤙🏼
@@DesFit Any response from Garmin?
Perfect, to the point. Thank you!
You're welcome!
Did anybody counts how many time Des said Tactic 7? Thank you Des always great 👍🏼.
Another drinking game would be how many "P"s I said in the Polar Pacer Pro review 😂 Thanks!
@@DesFit 😄😄
do you happen to know if the metal hardware on the nylon strap is titanim as well, or stainless? reason for my question is that I have a metal allergy and cannot wear stainless.
Very nice des love the look of the tatix great video 👍
Thanks Dusty!
Hello! You have fascinating tests about fitness watchs! Will u have a test about Withings Scanwatch? It is looking interesting!
Hi, i have a question. For the fenix 7x sapphire do they do same thing as the fenix 5x sapphir? Like, for example: in the fenix 5x sapphire edition you can add the lbs of the weights when working out?
I posted a vid on youtube of me testing the tactix7 solar by leaving it in the sun at 78% battery for more than an hour and checking plus testing it throughout the day for several more hours… still stayed at 78%….
So do you mean the solar actual works ? Its a plus up for battery life?
Thanks for a very useful review. For information such as at 9.32 . Do we need to connect with wifi and phone to get all these real time info on the watch ? Thank you and keep up the great work. Subscribed and liked ❤
I find it REALLY strange that Garmin went with the green LED on the T7. In training we have always been taught that the light that is less easily seen by the enemy is dark red. Having a green light burst like this will not only destroy your natural night vision but will immediately reveal your position in the field! Ridiculous
Thank you
Sure thing 👍
At the end I picked up Fenix 7 instead of 7x because 7x is quite a big watch and it looks like an alarm clock on the wrist , it's quite impractical and annoying during climbing.
How do the buttons feel on your tactix 7? Coming from a remix 6x, it’s like there is more travel and even some rattle on the tactix buttons… at least on the one I picked up. My Felix buttons feel solid in comparison
The 6 series buttons seem to be a little better than both the F7. The Tactix buttons feel better than the F7 but maybe not quite as good as the F6.
For me it is the bezel of the Tactix. Period.
What do you think about Software Version 13.22 - Backlight Bug? Your backlight always turn on when viewing maps, starting a new GPS activity, etc.. No way to turn backlight completely off.
Awesome video and channel!
Quick question. Do you have any feedback on the Garmin Decent Mk2/Mk2s for trailrunning and running?
Thanks in advanced.
It will be the same running functionality as the Fenix 6 series. Thanks!
Night vision setting also disables the optical sensors because they act as a huge light beacon to others wearing night vision.
I want that bezel on the Epix!
That’d be nice looking 👍
Yes please, i want that too
so as far as heart rate/GPS accuracy is it the same as fenix/enduro ?
Update firmware 13.22 : Garmin has changed the backlight behavior :
" The new backlight behavior is the intended result for the v13.22 software update.
For example - the backlight will turn on when:
- Acquiring GPS to start an outdoor activity or when acquiring GPS to save a location waypoint.
- Viewing the Map whether by itself as a feature or within an activity.
- Going into the Sunrise & Sunset glance and viewing the Sun position menu on the map."
the behavior described above has been introduced by Garmin with update to 13.22, and can NOT be disabled by the user !
The switching on of the lighting in the above mentioned cases is inevitable and can NOT be deactivated by the user. This is also confirmed by Garmin.
With this, Garmin has made this actually tactical watch unusable for the military, because there is no option to disable this. I look at the map in the field and give away my position by the light. Life threatening.
The problem is discussed in the forum, and Garmin's statement: "This backlight behavior is intentional and we have no plans to change it.
I just got the tactix 7 pro.. does getting the nylon band wet destroy it??
How is the size of your wrist in centimetres? Please🙏🏻
I have 16,5 cm anda still doubt about te size of Phoenix 7 or 7x. Thanks.
Great video ... question for you ... is the Software the same on the Delta and the Tactix 7
Nope, the Delta is based on the Fenix 6 series and the Tactix 7 is based on the Fenix 7 so the underlying base software and fitness features are different. I believe the tactical features are similar though.
@@DesFit Thank you.
Does the Tactix 7 Pro still have the golf app?
How intense is the vibration alert? I’m hard of hearing and rely on vibration alarms to wake me up 👀 Thanks
Garmin vibrations tend to be pretty strong
Excellent review....
I just bought a tactix 7 pro
My biggest problem is that I can't find the widget hunt.....and one of the reasons that I bought it is that I am a hunter...could you give me a solution please?
It should be available at the bottom of the list of activities (upper right hand button) but if it's not there you should be able to add it (the + option at the bottom of the list). Hope that helps. Thanks!
@@DesFit fortunately there's not at all....not exist
In your opinion, should I get the Coros vertix 2 or the Garmin Fenix 7X? I know the latter option is newer, but I hear the vertix 2 has a longer battery life, can't confirm that though lol. Is the fenix 7X really worth 1k USD???
Check out this video which gives some real-world comparisons between the Vertix 2 and Enduro 2 (which is just a Fenix 7X with even longer battery life). th-cam.com/video/JelJnlIX2MA/w-d-xo.html If the longest battery life is your main concern, yes the Vertix 2 has longer battery life but the Fenix 7X and Enduro 2 have substantially more features.
i wonder if Garmin is developing something for astronauts... i mean, there's the Omega Speedmaster that made it to the moon... at this stage, Garmin's watches top shelf watches are so niche in their purpose, yet still desirable for those who don't do those particular activities... much like people who collect fancy diver watches when they don't actually use them to scuba... and im sure those with Garmin MARQ watches don't necessarily drive F1 cars...
I think we even see this with the Fenix line where I am sure there are plenty of people out there who just like them because of the look and/or the status, and more power to them if they have the means to purchase one. No judgement. And it's interesting to see Garmin take it even further with these!
They could add a watch to Marq series but i don’t think it worth the money because the omega speedmaster is analog watch that wearing the omega 3861 calibre to improving the power reserve, chronometric performance and magnetic resistance for that job any Garmin with built in compass will do the same job..
@@DesFit agreed..
What is the difference between tactix 7 pro vs aviator?
Does the tactix need to be paired with a phone or internet to use GPS?
No, it has an independent, built in GPS chipset
What’s your wrist size, I’m leaning towards the tactix 7 but I’m scared it’ll seem too bulky for my wrist
187mm circumference
Is the only difference between the tactix standard and tactix pro just the addition on the nylon strap?
As well as solar
@@DesFit Ah. Ok. Thanks!
I love the old tactic delta and this one is great but new watch faces are really unreadable, so small! One of the best feature of the old Tactix was the clean design and readable watchface.
Just download one for like 99 cents on the connect store. I have my Charlie running a modified version of the Instinct and it's been perfect.
Sorry I might have missed it, but does the tactix have a touch screen just like the fenix 7 ?
Yup, at 10:40 👍
Can you use the nylon band on the finex 7x?
Yup! It’s a 26mm QuickFit band that fits the X model Fenix watches 👍
@@DesFit Thanks 😄
I’m just a mountain biker and backpacker who likes the style of the Tactix over a 7x SS. No HALO jumping for this guy. I mean, when you are already in the $1k range for a watch, what’s another hundo?
Hey, if you’ve got the means go for it! It certainly does have a distinct look to it vs the Fenix 7. 👍
@@DesFit I currently have a Fenix 5x Sapphire and think I just want a change in appearance since I’m “upgrading” for some of the new features on the latest watches. Just curious, have you heard about a difference in clarity of the solar sapphire glass on a F7x versus the non-solar Sapphire on the standard Tactix 7? Some users have reported the solar glass seems to look “foggier” than the non-solar version, especially indoors. Appreciate the great content!
我想问下，红色led灯和绿色led灯的区别主要是什么？是有不同的作用吗？
How is the screen clarity blacker blacks readability, compared the to Fenix 7X Solar?
The sapphire glass will be just ever so slightly cloudier than the gorilla glass on the non sapphire Fenix 7.
@@DesFit thank you, enjoy your content!
@@DesFit Does Tactix 7 Pro too have sapphire glass ?
How did you get the calories complication on that watch face? I cant find it on my 7x ss
It was two options below the VO2 max complication. I've had it there I think since launch so it shouldn't be due to a recent update or anything.
@@DesFit strange, I don't see the option. Thats fine no big deal, thanks anyway. Great video once again.
When will the new tactix 8 pro be released?
It was well over 2 years from the Tactix Detla to the Tactix 7. I'd anticipate quite a while before they release a new version since the 7 just came out last year.
Where’s all that light coming from while your demonstrating the night vision mode? Sure seems to wash out any screen you might see.
I’m so jealous of you. I really like the Tactix 7 Pro
And correction - just Standard. Holy cow that night vision backlight! Very very cool highlight of that. Great job
Question as well - what of the new watches are you liking the best for daily use? Going Epix like everyone else?
Can’t believe the nylon band is $129 if you buy it separately - crazy.
And last - good lord could Garmin get any better at specialized functions, settings, and features?! All of these are incredible if you’re in that field. Even Hunt profile is crazy!
Even though it's a bit big for me I've been using the 7X on a more consistent basis - it's seriously because of the flashlight! I use it constantly.
@@DesFit Yes that’s what I am desperate to use it for! I constantly am using my phone for my flashlight, and periodically grab even a headlamp! Are you not noticing the extra weight? Seriously loved this review because not as many are reviewing it and I’m seriously wrestling with it as a genuine option for me because I love the design over the 7X
@@DesFit oh and stupid question but any backlight brightness differences at full tilt that you can notice?
Shame that the "hunt" profile is reserved for the Tactix, it would be right at home on the regular Fēnix series watches. While I'm sure there's crossover between military and hunters, I've personally never needed night vision or a Killswitch to hunt Pennsylvania whitetail, but I'd love to have the hunt profile on my 6x pro, I just can't justify the cost of the Tactix for the access to it.
I mean, you never know when a Pennsylvania whitetail may turn the tables on you!
The solar ring magically disappears after you use the watch for a while (don't notice it anymore). Fenix 7x Solar
I don’t need it but man I love the look of the tactix. I’ve got a 7x I’ll trade and I’ll throw in an Apple Watch series 7 lol
Maybe there'll be a taker!
@@DesFit awesome channel too Desfit!
Thanks Austin!
What watch face is it at 3:58?? Can't find it anywhere..
Do you have a Tactix 7 or Tactix Delta?
@@DesFit Tactix 7 pro
That watch face is on the Tactix Delta
@@DesFit Can I download it from some link, please?
Stock Garmin watch faces are generally exclusive to each watch model
It's great that there's something for everyone.
But damn does it sound silly when the product names are read out.
super.
only if ballistics version would shoot laser blasts I would I have bought it right away
pew pew!
Touch to chose and not all function work for me.
Tactix 7 pro ❤️
What happened to Tactix Echo? I liked the "Nato alphabetical" naming of previous generations.
Things may start to get weird when we get into the Mike and Tangos. 🤷♂️
Tactix is a Zombie apocalypse watch
🧟♀️
2nd 💪💪💪
Boom!
Don’t take this personally. Slow down a little and you will be even better.
I don't take it personally :) But what's crazy is that I've been trying to slow down over the years 😂
Nothing wrong with the pace Des - gets all the information in and makes the content sound more compelling. Nothing worse that those channels when the creator just drones on for what seems like forever 😴😂.
Love the channel - thanks for the great content 👍
@@cnewland82 Thanks!
The actual display so small 😞
Update firmware 13.22 : Garmin has changed the backlight behavior :
" The new backlight behavior is the intended result for the v13.22 software update.
For example - the backlight will turn on when:
- Acquiring GPS to start an outdoor activity or when acquiring GPS to save a location waypoint.
- Viewing the Map whether by itself as a feature or within an activity.
- Going into the Sunrise & Sunset glance and viewing the Sun position menu on the map."
With this, Garmin has made this actually tactical watch unusable for the military, because there is no option to disable this. I look at the map in the field and give away my position by the light. Life threatening.
The problem is discussed in the forum, and Garmin's statement: "This backlight behavior is intentional and we have no plans to change it.
130 dolars for a STRAP ?
LOL
Too bulky watches not for a small wrists looks ridiculous
Très belle montre ,mais elle coûte 1800$
129€ for a strap ahahhahahahah is it a joke?
The backlight don’t stay on even with no time limit. It will go dark after awhile. Odd.
Which watches have an indefinite backlight? I tried a handful that are laying around and all of them seem to time out after a certain period.
@@DesFit that’s the question. Who really has an “always on” display. I know you can download watch faces on the Ticwatch that almost stay on. Just dim ever so slightly. The Cyber watch face for example.
Battery life I think is too much of a concern for companies to enable the backlight to never turn off.
On my Tactix Delta, you go to Sytem/Backlight, then select either during activity or not, then timeout. There is an option for no timeout. Then the backlight stays on until you press it to turn off.
I would expect the other Fenix 6 and 7 watches to do the same.
Just testing it now to see how long it stays on.
Please speak slower very hard to understand you
Try out the .75 X playback speed option in the TH-cam player settings
Man, u r talking to fast and giving too much info in a short time. Impossible to get smth from such review.
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I was hoping you were going to fly a plane to properly test that "fly" activity. ✈️ So close!
I like things with wheels. Wings? I'll let someone else handle that 😁
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i love the thoroughness of your reviews, very professional
Thanks so much. Happy to help.
Mate you are a very well mannered polite person this comes across in all your videos and I’m sure it’s why you have such a good following bravo
Thanks!
This review is fantastic, not even Garmin could do it better. 🤩 ... my honest opinion is that Garmin Fenix 7x is the major concept...tactix, Enduro and so on are different adjustments to catch the attention of specific group of customers without actually making a really different watch...I would say it is more a marketing operation rather than a production one.
Any idea if the Tactix 7 will get the upgraded software features such as shaded relief maps and such like the Fenix Pro Series got?
Thanks for your review! It almost seems that the “base” Tactix might hit that sweet spot that you can’t get in a full size Fenix7x… which is a full size watch with the flashlight but none of the solar to “cloud up” the screen. Do you think the non-solar Tactix would be more viewable because of this? I love my Fenix 7x pro solar, but have to admit that those extra layers of solar, touch an sapphire have made the screen pretty aweful compared to the previous top of the line Fenix 6x. Thanks
I don't think the removal of solar would make any difference - it's more of sapphire vs non-sapphire. There is a slight difference between the Tactix 7 Pro vs the Fenix 7X Solar (non-sapphire) that are shown in the video whereas the sapphire has a little bit more glare at some angles.
My Fēnix 7 sapphire titanium pro was very clear and crisp. Tried the 6s and it had poor contrast oddly. Got the 7x SS and it’s by far the most cloudy screen. I’ve been experimenting with various versions, and I don’t think it’s the sapphire unless it’s something unique to Garmin’s sapphire crystal. I have high end watches with sapphire that are perfectly clear head on-maybe some glare to the side. Personally, I think it may be a combination of factors for the 7, but the main one may be the touchscreen layer. Not sure though, many companies can achieve perfectly clear screens with touchscreens. I also tried the 7 Solar with no sapphire glass and it was still cloudy looking. My 6 Pro Titanium was VERY clear but no solar.
Anyone with a non-solar 7 able to weigh in?
@@mantykarhu I pulled the trigger and ordered a Tactix 7 (from a trusted company with a great return policy) to compare side by side to my Fenix 7xPro Solar Sapphire. I could tell an immediate difference in general "readability" of the screens. I have managed to get some good pics that are pretty explanatory, but I guess can't post on here. The lettering on the Tactix is just brighter, crisper and easier to see in everyday settings. The black background looks blacker and makes the black background of the 7x look slightly maroon. Not to mention, the absence of the solar ring is just cleaner. I've not seen significant gains in battery from the last two generations of solar Fenix's that I've owned, so doing away with that solar layer, in my humble opinion, makes this screen just a bit clearer... enough to be like my good old non-solar Fenix 5 and early 6. I prefer the more modern appearing bezel on the T7 and have already removed most of the "tactical stuff" which I won't use and set it up just like my F7 for running and other regular sports activities. I'm SUPER happy with the standard Tactix and after 4 or 5 straight generational upgrades through the Fenix line, will be selling the F7xSS.
Sapphire is always always always better. Not even sure why there is a debate. It's either you can afford the sapphire or you can't. There is a reason Rolex glass and all other glass of high end watches are sapphire. My tactix 7 pro sapphire solar non ballistics comes in next week. I never thought I'd put down my Rolex but the health data and monitoring of things has become important . GARMIN will be my new primary watch.
@@keithcooper6905 Hey, I have been trying I find comparisons of this! seems some people don't understand and think they look the same but from some photos it seems obvious! is there anyway of seeing the photos you have to compare? Would be greatly appreciated!
Will definitely be looking to replace my Charlie with this guy. Super sick and tired of draining the battery by bumping the GPS button, which was fixed in the Delta but there wasn't enough of an upgrade to justify the cost.
Love the people in the comments "buh is it really worth it buh"
Well if my life potentially depends on being able to read that GPS grid under night vision, yeah I'd say it's worth it. Lots of the little stuff is niceties, but that one feature alone is critical, speaking from experience.
I cannot imagine a situation where I would be wearing night vision and my life being dependent on looking at my watch to know where I was. It's a nice watch but, the extra features do not benefit me, which is fine, I got the Fenix 7X SS. In the UK, you are paying £200 for a slightly different bezel, a green LED and some software tweaks.
If I did need those features, I would be issued with it and not have to rely on a civilian watch. But, that's just my opinion.
@@pauljnelson Clearly you're not in the Canadian Military.
I was in a LAV that snapped a radio antenna, had no backup radio, no DAGR, no TACNAV, had literally nothing but my watch and I had to be able to read it under night vision while moving.
So while it's neat to say "it'd be issued" that's an absolute fallacy for a lot of units and a lot of jobs. The existing solutions often aren't as good as what's available on the private market either, and the update time on most DAGR system's is awful long for anything time sensitive like fire missions.
Hell I had a DAGR shit the bed on my section commander's course. I'm good with a map and compass but it's a lot more effective when trying to recce a location to have a GPS.
@@justinpeck3667 you're right, I'm not, I'm in the British Military. We're taught not to rely on technology, it's there as a back up. Besides, there are much better private handhelds that have better accuracy, resiliance and longevity. This is a watch with small GPS antennas plus, despite its battery stamina, cannot easily be recharged in the field. Hardly something is be willing to bet my life on when required.
@@pauljnelson Yeah maps don't work so good at 30km/h cross country in the dark, ask me how I know.
I've worked with lots of Brits you can't lie to me- you like your toys as much as the next group- the difference is your issued toys work.
As far as accuracy you obviously haven't used one much, because despite the small antenna the accuracy is roughly +/- 5m and the update cycle is far faster than a DAGR. Prior to the Tactix my backup was a 701: similar size, similar antenna, no issues with accuracy or tracking. I still the 701 dismounted as it takes AAA's but I've used the Tactix with the GPS frequently for 11 day light exes without running out of power.
I'm also primarily mechanized so power is less of an issue and GPS becomes more important. Again, sure it's a backup, but if your TACNAV shits the bed good luck navigating with a map. Hard to pace bead a vehicle cross country.
But I've only used it in like 7 countries and all kinds of terrain, totally untrustworthy compared to the Queen's solution.
@@justinpeck3667 there's a difference between liking toys and being reliant on them.
As for using Garmin watches, you've made an assumption there, I've had one since the Fenix 5, through the 6X Pro and now the 7X SS. The last one uses exactly the same as the Tactix 7 with the same accuracy.
If it works for you, that's fine but, the Tactix is a niche product that many don't need and are just as entitled to their opinion as anyone else. It does not make your choice any less valid.