KPOP's Biggest Liar: How Hwayoung Ruined T-Ara
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- tara were at the peak of their career when a kpop scandal, from which they suffered the consequences for years, broke out in 2012. stay tuned to find out if hyomin and the rest of tara members had to do something with tara disbandment. subscribe to kookielit for more kpop news and videos.
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I just think it’s weird that she nor her sister has never to this day made a formal apology about the whole situation especially after so much evidence of her being so terrible to other people, that truly says a lot about her character
Why would you expect an apology from a liar
@@sensoine I’m not saying anybody should, but i said that cause it would show that she holds her self and her sister accountable for what happened
@@ytrewq12345 that part.. we had it great but we had it rough as gen 2 fans
And the fact people still support her is weird
@@mirajanexx328 it’s REALLY weird!! Like yes it happened so long ago but to this day she still feels she didn’t do anything wrong like ma’am.. you’re weird
They should've stopped adding members. They had a core group and what they were doing was working for them. What a waste and what a ruined career for those girls
Absolutely. They were a perfect group with six members.
Iirc the sisters father is some rich guy that had connections to put them in
The 6 members were fine only, the CEO is the one only at fault for adding members
Their excuse of "we are adding new members so that the older members will work harder to prove themselves" was ridiculous. That statement alone showed how little they cared about the girls. T-ara suffered from horrible management. They could have been on par with SNSD, 2ne1 and Wonder Girls.
@@Yorbelize i think that's it. The company was adding up members to compete with SNSD.
Sad fun fact: This scandal was the reason why idols were not allowed to have personal social media accounts until very reccently. Fans will look into any little thing online, especially things idols post themselves. You can even see with the Mina and Jimin AOA situation how things blew up from their social media posts and comments. It's really tragic
but bangtan had their twtr&yt accs in 2012
anyways, I just hoped t-ara is still peaking now and I hope they'll have their successful careers as well
@@ykl2555
But they were managed by BigHit.
That aside, they were a nugu group back then, I would take a bigger group as example even if not necessarily in the Big 3/4.
Also, most idols who indeed had an account closed it before/in about 2013. Which is around the time the scandal happened. I wasn’t present in 2th generation but I figured it out as I always see in pre half 3th generation’s idols Kprofiles that they had a Twitter account but deactivated it in the early 2010s.
Most idols who are allowed to open personal accounts are already quite successful/stable and only a few are allowed to open it before 5 or 7 years in the industry. I also suspect that they aren’t allowed to open a Twitter account because 1)Groups’ accounts already do the job if not Weverse/Bubble/Universe etc; 2)Instagram,Weibo,Little Red Book,Tiktok,Douyin are much safer and yet give freedom to the idol as long as they pay attention. They also would be allowed to limit or deactivate comments/replies and they wouldn’t risk to read unwanted things like “Their name-scandal” trending and mean tweets in the platform even if not in their account.
@@ykl2555 that's different, bts dont have personal twt/yt accounts
@@ykl2555 they still survived the industry even after that scandal, they eat them up.
@@ykl2555 bangtan never had personal twt/yt accounts tho (they all used the same one, which was also moderated by the company), they recently got their instas and those are the only public and personal social media accounts they ever had as idols
The fact that T-ARA was so famous back then during the Roly Poly, Lovey Dovey, Cry Cry, and Sexy Love era. They are almost head to head with SNSD back then, but the bullying scandal erupted. As I can remember, this is one of the starting point of the bullying scandal in the kpop industry. This is also the most talked about scandal back then.
Facts. Their songs are still really good. Ngl some old kpop songs may sound a bit cringy now because the trends back are very different from what's popular now. BUT I recently listened to T-ARA's songs like 'Like the first time', 'Cry Cry', 'Roly Poly', 'Why are you being like this/Weironi' and they're all really well made songs. They don't sound old and outdated at all. Just shows how well they could've done if they were able to continue as a group.
@@syeyonkang8956 which old kpop song that u feel cringy?
Head to head with SNSD? Not even close. They were more on the same level as Kara. A few good songs here and there… not a consistent wave of popularity, like SNSD. Their group was just plagued with too much drama. I blame their agency, couldn’t manage the girls correctly.
@@odd6088 I don't have a specific song. But some of the trends from early 2010 kpop can be considered cringy now I guess? Like the excessive use of that robot autotune effect.
@@MyHandle4455 Tbh yea I agree. For me Tara was on the same level as Kara, Secret and maybe After School? SNSD level is more like Wonder Girls and 2NE1
In hindsight, them slick dissing on Twitter was the dumbest move on their part. However CCM handled it ASTRONOMICALLY bad. I've never seen a group's discourse managed so horrendously
Cube. They failed Soojin and lost my fandom.
well, lets give applause to BBC who are currently doing an even worse achievement
@@HorribleHarry not even close
@@Koko24250 Yes gidle didn’t almost disband, but I lost one of my top biases in all K-pop. (Almost the same for AOA Jimin.)
T-ara were my apex bias group (till Dreamcatcher came around) and this debacle almost ended my K-pop fandom.
Hopefully we’ll see the occasional comeback, and maybe EJ with her first album hair… a guy can dream…
I mean....she was literally the groups downfall and the other members put years of hard work into their success. I don't blame them for speaking out about how they felt.
This is why I was skeptical when Garam's bullying accusations happened. Knetziens are just horrible at finding real bullies and they all turn out to be innocent in the end.
😂kpop should make a long series drama itself. Garam case is totally chaotic. I wonder where the people claim that bully accusation.
Exactly. Remember the same thing happened with AoA for an entire year when everyone thought AoA Jimin was a bully for a year and countless TH-cam videos and other articles were made about their situation and in the end AoA Mina was just good at playing the victim card constantly. It’s really hard to tell unless you’re personally in their lives and even then people aren’t precisely sure. Fans and netizens need to approach bullying situations and accusations carefully, in the end it’s people’s livelihoods and dreams that get stripped away and it’s so disheartening to see considering we know how much kpop idols train to even debut. Also companies need to protect their artists more ( looking at CUBE here… pretty sure most of us miss Soojin).
This is why in the K-Pop world, neutrality is a virtue.
This is the best movie I ever watch so far. It’s even better than any Holywood movie.
I stopped believing it when they said garam threw a potted play at someone head?? 😭 like be fr, she would’ve been behind bars for doing that
1:29 I always love seeing when people do this. They tear up merch or product to boycott a brand/person/band but are too stupid to realise that they’ve already given their money towards that thing being boycotted
Yesss hahaha. I never understood why they do that
😂😂💔
right 😂
even if I found out something bad about my ults, I'd just sell my merch and albums if I wanted to get rid of it, instead of wasting my hard earned money by throwing out away, trashing it or worse
I mean, even if it turns out it was "not that big of a deal" or even a bigger deal than people thought it was, I'd say destroying it only comes at your own cost, so personally I always try to get a few cents out of stuff "I'm over it" to bring it to 2nd hand online shops so people who might (still) want to have it can have it for lil money or I'me ven donating it to the one 2nd hand store offfline I don't get anything for unless space in my place =)
Right they’ve done that to so many artists or famous people like Melanie Martinez and Millie Bobby brown for no reason 💀
The saddest part about this is that Hwayoung and her sister still has a career to this day. She never had to face the consequence of her actions. She banked on ruining other members career to launch her own. She ruined what the original members of T-ARA worked so hard for.
true, it sucks. Some people really get away after all the damage they do to other people not even an apology and if they do it's for the sake of saving their career.
T-ara fans keeps on tormenting her. ( Karma) she deleteyher Instagram account, she never had a acting gigs for years , she was removed from the season 2 of that 1 drama.
@@user-mg1de9sl3l really? what about her twin sister? man it sucks how she really had to destroy her whole group like that.
@@ckaine1837 both of them do have acting job, and the active members of T-ara are still doing good tho.
@user-mg1de9sl3l
Who are the active members now?
T-ARA scandal is my villain origin story. It's been more than a decade and I'm still angry about this. I believe I'll never get over it. I'll be in my deathbed and still wish I could travel back in 2012 and prevent this from happening.
I don't think many people, even folks who were K-Pop fans back then, can fathom the magnitude of this scandal. I'm someone who cares about numbers so these facts have always stuck with me. T-ARA were the most popular group at that time, surpassing even the established groups from Big 3, they were standing at the very top and preparing to reach new heights. And everything was ruined because their disgusting CEO tried to play mind games with the members and allowed this damn sociopath in the group. If you want a "tragedy script" this is it.
Dude, i remember arguing with hwayoung's fan about her being a snake and they basically told me to forget it because its all in the past and we're just jealous of her acting awards
Right..TT
yess the problem really from their CEO, trying to add more members so more fans will come... LoL , that why recently the group that lose a member wont add new one, because the member that added later usually will mess the current established members
I hated how the added member ruined everything they worked hard for since training days. Its easy for her to have attitude coz she was not around the beginning, the rough times.
I agree. I’m still salty about that after so many years. Cause we all know that their popularity would have grown even more if that case had never happened. I never understood the fact to add another member anyways. OT6 did well from the beginning without her. The group would have been perfect with the original members. But that weird company thought they need to add more members. Like it would change anything… it didn’t and it wouldn’t have later too. Even until now I’m sceptical about adding members without a reason. That’s how much this affected me 🙈
The fact that she got applauded for years along with her sister, while the other members were plagued for years to come. All those girls had to drop their acting gigs, lost huge popularities, and so much more, while Hwayoung got everything handed to her, and even today after no apology ever happening despite all the evidence from the former staff and even the former CEO, Hwayoung still gets acting gigs and has even appeared on many shows even after the bullying scandal was proven to be all created by Hwayoung and her sister. All these bullying scandals now, causing lineup changes, extreme hate and so much more despite the fact that 99% of them were innocent, yet Hwayoung still gets praised for her vocals and acting despite how awful she was.
I vaguely remember that her father is in the industry. I'm sure that helps.
I gave up watching Father is Strange after a couple of episodes when I realized how much Hwayoung was in it. It's a shame because I wanted to check out Lee Yu-ri after her star turn in Jang Bo-ri is Here.
@@jgirlLVR I didn't know that was her! She looks so different from her time in t ara
@@anniekimsay she isn't a bad actress but the point's her bad personality cannot be condoned. She ruined not 1 but 6 people's lifetime career and yet she's still able to deserve success/fame?? Shame on her
@@chaeerie05_ yes. I understand after reading the comment twice💜
I experienced this whole dilemma back then and let me tell you it was a disaster. T-ARA went from extremely popular, enormous sales and even being strong competition for SNSD to the most hated girl group. And they still worked hard and released music and performed. I have always believed that they weren‘t at fault, but I also never thought that Hwayoung and her sister would ever go that far to ruin T-ARA. but this is why nowadays I am even more careful about what to believe in terms of bullying and rude behavior rumors. AND YOU SHOULD TOO. there have been cases that happened even in 4th generation where the evidence or statements were quite questionable and STILL the victims won in a way because they ruined someone’s career based on alleged things that can neither be confirmed nor denied. the fact that also many companies let their artists down and kick them out of their contracts to prevent a whole group from suffering a downfall like T-ARA. and I think this is exactly why, apart from the general public’s view on this matter, many idols have to have either a long hiatus or actually leave instead of the artist and company fighting against xyz in court.
For real! I’m still upset they got ruined by a snake
Like SNSD's Jessica.
Same I will never forget this scandal ever gosh as a Queen myself from best birthday gift ever because of the released of Day by Day on my birthday to the birthday year I hated the most..
T-ARA and SNSD were the 2 popular girl groups I followed the most at the time. When T-ARA was struck with their scandal, they kept quiet for years. When SNSD was struck with their scandal, they also kept quiet for years. Even when the Fans turned their backs on T-ARA, SNSD was one of the few to stay friends with them and keep supporting them. They stayed close to each other, while everyone was calling them backstabbers, bullies, snakes, (sound familiar?) etc. Hwayoung wouldnt stop talking and got her Sister involved (sound familiar?). Eventually former Staff Members came forward and provided evidence that supported Hwayoung's was wrong (sound familiar?), and slowly Public perception turned, and the "victim" became the "antagonist" (sound familiar?). Even to this day, T-ARA has not talked about Hwayoung. Even when their names were cleared, they refused to talk about Hwayoung. SNSD has still not talked about Jessica. The safe way to defend yourself is to say nothing, and let the other party incriminate themselves. I hated seeing T-ARA and SNSD suffer, and it made me quit Kpop for years, up until recently.
2 Gens and many false bullying accusations later, its sad that Kpop Fans didnt learn their lesson and try to ruin Idol's careers.
@@kpoprewind4k60fps snsd didn’t kick her out. It was entirely SM
The fact that she didn’t lose anything and still has a career and is in the industry while T-are were harassed and went through a lot their whole career damaged.
I remember when one of the members had a car accident and knetz said that she deserved it and when Jiyeon broke her nose and got hate. They really went through hell.
Knetz never learn nor learn to investigate who really is the bully but always bully the victims and ruin their careers.
I think soyeon broke nose. If i am not mistaken. However, as i know hwayoung and family already rich. So no wonder they both still survive eventho they are sucks. I just hope people not watching and ban her in drama n movies
@@faizzarul It was Jiyeon who broked a nose, during practice and Soyeon got into a car accident ... Yup! RHY's family is rich (could be?!)! If you remember and have watched their show Dreamgirls ... the second part of it after the OT6 finished their training as Flight Steward, they worked as Congresswoman's Staff! And in one of their conversation, RHY told them as she pointed in a certain office that, that was his Father's office! So, I think, it may have been one of the reasons why they did not revealed or resolve the whole thing publicly (in my opinion!)
I know it's been 2 days but I wanted to say this. This story is complicated because she was a new member and the other members of T-ARA ignored her on TV shows (like said in the video) or posted mean tweets. But they never told netizens why. So naturally people thought they were mean bc she was a new member. She never showed she was mean to them but they were showing they didn't like her. You see the problem? It is really complicated to "investigate" like you said when people don't know what's going on behind the scenes. People are judging based on what they see. And what they were seeing is a whole group being mean to one girl.
But I'm not defending them just asking to understand how complicated it could be to see the truth. Nobody came to explain the situation clearly or tell the truth. They did it way after. And the bully was playing the victim so well its easy to be fooled. It's unfair that they career was ruined bc of that and not the sisters. And I don't think they ever apologized for that which makes it worst.
Sad thing this probably won't ever change at least now for now
They are one of the legendary K-pop groups that shaped my beautiful vision to k-pop in general . I feel heartbroken to everything happening to my fvrt grps I wish all of them could come back 💔
The biggest villain was actually their agency who literally forced the members to work during serious injuries, fatigue and threatened them with losing there spot in the group if they didn’t work hard.
Adding new members randomly.
There a video of T-ARA being interviewed and they were so tired they were falling asleep live on camera.
They never had time off or any holidays and these were young girls.
Yes it seems like from what come out so far is that Tara members are treated differently with Hwayoung which could explain why the girls dislike and want to isolate Hwayoung so much????
Not saying any sides is right but I feel like that’s how it all unfolds.
Cause imagine you being threatened by your boss that you are gonna get fired if you are sick, but your colleague just FAKE A SICKIE and get out of anything with no consequences??
I would be pissed too
@@cutforcuties The girls never dislike Hwayoung. They always keep on saying that it was a misunderstanding and they really regret going on tweeter.
They aren't young girls.
@@jijipir4220 T-ara debut with there company at a young age.
We’re actively working full time with no holidays for 4 years. The group members age range was a mix of 16- early twenties during the scandal.
There were still in school and college which is a young person.
@@2damecuteUK Huh? Where did you get that? Boram and Qri debuted when they are 24 years old , Soyeon was 23, Eunjung was 22 and Hyomin was 21 and Jiyeon was almost 17 that time. The fake bullying scandal happened in 2012. Boram and Qri are 26, Soyeon is 25, Eunjung is 24 and Hyomin was 23. Jiyeon, Hwayoung and Ahreum are like 19 years old that time.
It’s a shame how nasty of a person Hwayoung really is. Her character in Age of Youth was one of my favorites…
This :( also, I've read somewhere that the reason why she's not included in the 2nd season is because she got involved with a married man. 😢 There were proof like photos in a hotel, as far as I know but I could be wrong.
I am still so mad at Hwayoung up to this day. She really ruined T-ara. I’ve been called bad names for protecting T-ara from other haters back then and I still dont regret it. They don’t deserve it. 😢 I’m just happy that some of the members are still enjoying life. Was really scared for their mental health back then.
Ikr, I feel u. Many ppl mocked at our fandom for being a bully. Look the truth's out now hence SHE DOES NOT DESERVE THE FAME SHE HAS NOW. She ruined T-ARA's career, just by saying she's young back then isn't an excuse.
@@jiusomnia_ she's not even famous.
Me also, she was once my bias but after that. I dont wanna see her ever again
Hwayoung didn't "ruin" T-ara. Their management did along with all the assholes on the internet who jumped on the bandwagon without knowing all the facts. They are the major bullies. The fake videos, the skewing of the facts, the harassment, the making shit up to support their version of "facts" - they are the ones who "ruined" T-ara.
Hwayoung and the rest of the group had the right to be upset with each other. The other members had the right to be upset with Hwayoung for skipping out on rehearsals. The management should've gotten them into mediation but instead they allowed everything to be released to the public who went wild, holding a kangaroo court and convicting the members for nothing.
I feel you we used to get into arguments with haters. It was hard being a queen. Happy they're all doing okay now though. Jiyeon is now doing movies again after all this time.
I remember when jiyeon was on that show and she saw a psychologist you could see how much her mental health was impacted
I've been a Kpop fan since 2010/2011 but I wasn't really a Queen (their fans), just a casual listener. When I heard about this issue, I started to listen lesser to their songs (because it was a BIG BIG MESS back then, and I'm immature for judging too early), and it was my fault for not knowing all the details. It's also a learning for me not to jump in any conclusions without knowing the whole story.
Them winning on a music show for their "What's My Name?" comeback after SO MANY YEARS really got me. Try searching for their win, and you'll see even the other idols and fans are celebrating and cheering for them. I also got teary-eyed watching them.
One lie, and T-ara was ruined. I thought this was, like, a lesson for people. Sadly, it wasn't. It even happened to Garam and Soojin (they are the ones I know are innocent). People are so quick to judge and "cancel" idols without knowing the full story, it's actually disgusting. One thing from me: Unless I know all the deets, I won't judge. First, I'm not in any position to judge. Second, I don't want to be a part of the reason why a person would lose their reputation.
P.S. It still doesn't sit right with me that they haven't apologize, even as a joke or whatever. Haven't addressed the issue, knowing that they ruined the group. How immature and how rude.
Yes, although we were young and immature back then for judging T-ARA, we were also manipulated by Hwayoung and the media. Luckily I didn't go all the way to harass them back then, I just engaged less with their contents. However, I also feel very cheated when the Hwayoung's truth came out because I thought I stuck up with the victim, turned out I was manipulated by the "victim" herself. Same goes to the AOA Allegation. I didn't hate Jimin because I was more mature and I actually enjoyed AOA in the Queendom.
The one person that needs to be in prison for defamation right now is the one who creates the allegation. They know how to utilise the hate bandwagon and cancel culture to their benefits. Justice for T-ARA, Jimin, Garam, Soojin. Soojin's hurt the most because I love G-idle and I feel robbed from witnessing Soojin in Nxde era. She would've killed this era.
T-ARA is why i love KPOP so its sad knowing a liar ruined T-ARA i will love to see more songs one day
Fans nowadays will probably not fully understand just how big T-ara was. They were right there with SNSD and 2NE1 and had all of the possibilities to surpass them and dethrone SNSD for the title of "nation's girl group". And then Hwayoung dug their grave for years to come even if the girls had been proven innocent. Witch hunts are still a thing in kpop but they'll probably NEVER reach the scale of T-ara's repercussions.
I know right, this will probably be the biggest and worse scandal and tragedy in kpop for decades to come, and if theres another scandal in future I hope this will not happen again
In my point of view, they're music are much better than SNSD, doesn't come close
And to think that she lives quietly without even a public apology.
With all of these scandal i dont understand why is she still in the industry? People can canceled on other idol but not her? I wonder why 🤔
Sleeping😴
She has a rich father lol
MONEY
Cause all those people who supported her that time doesn't care at all now? Since they are also at fault that time ,😅 probably doesn't wanna admit their mistakes. Lol.
The thing is because Jiyeon has a very straightforward and strong personality that she has no qualms calling hwayoung out. Maybe Knetz have a thing for the underdog and Hwayoung knows how to act like a victim. She always acted like the Diva of the group even when Jiyeon is the prettiest.
PS. That’s the thing for a lot of kpop groups. The visual gets pushed by the company front and center so they have a tendency to get conceited because they get most of the projects, lines, etc. Some visuals don’t change their personality but can’t do anything about it but others let their “bankability” get in their head and even disrespect their seniors.
In T-ARAs case it was Jiyeon and Eunjung that had more projects outside of their singing career but they still do their best vs Hwayoung who acted like the victim and wanted all the attention on her.
I get everything but the last sentence which makes it seem like you get to be divalike if you are the prettiest or something
@@elithluxe7568 well that’s the thing for a lot of kpop groups. The visual gets pushed by the company front and center so they have a tendency to get conceited because they get most of the projects, lines, etc. Some visuals don’t change their personality but can’t do anything about it but others let their “bankability” get in their head and even disrespect their seniors.
In T-ARAs case it was Jiyeon and Eunjung that had more projects outside of their singing career but they still do their best vs Hwayoung who acted like the victim and wanted all the attention on her.
@@amalilconfused correction, Qri's their original T-ARA visual. Jiyeon was ltr added in. Both are my bias 😁
@@jiusomnia_ Jiyeon was always been the visual of the group.
@@user-mg1de9sl3l yes. she was the only idol who took yoona snsd first spot on beauty korean chart, the only time yonna was on 2nd and chosen by idols #1 most pretty female idol in real life
It hurts that my favorite group had to go through this. Kpop fans who abused T-ARA certainly can share in some of the blame. What gave them the right to torment T-ARA, over things that were never their business? I guarantee if this same thing happened with an American group fans would have ignored the internal bickering.
After T-ARA, we have the AOA and April's false bullying accusation.
Technically April’s has never really been cleared up, DSP just kind of decided to let April die from everyone’s memories over a couple diary post and an alleged older brother. But netizens tried doing the same to their videos and Stray Kids videos by evil editing them in a way that showed the group, or Woojin for SKZ, as bullying in a way that makes Mnet look like amateurs. I mentioned those specifically because I watched a couple and I can see how convincing they could be, but I’m not easily moved towards bandwagon hate, so I could tell it was bs.
@@guadalupemontoya1819 kookie covered April's bullying scandal last year
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Excuse me??? April is still a bully
@@rekhakashyap7164 There's no proof of them being bullies
@@guadalupemontoya1819 it was cleared up since July last year. Final result of the police re-investigation revealed there was no evidence of bullying and hyunjoo lied about the dating rumor. Most people don't know this because the media was already hyunjoo biased and simply ignored this revelation.
And yet, netizens were still so quick to jump to conclusions when it came to AoA.
T-ara was the reason I ever got into kpop. August 2012 was the time I got into kpop. The whole scandal was messy. I was a fan during their peak of the scandal. I didn’t know what was going on and why hwayoung was missing in performances. It wasn’t until I saw clips of the girls apparently bullying hwa. I’m so glad that the girls sorta got closure in 2017. What I didn’t like was that Korea shunned them. However, China was still accepting of them and allowed ONLY t-ara to perform as a Korean act. T-ara will always have a special place in my heart. I do, though really love Hwayoung in my father is strange. Thank you for covering this scandal. Stan T-ara and Stan Ahreum. STREAM TIKI TAKA 🖤💘
Please dont praise Hwayoung in any way...
T-Ara was my favorite girl group back in my teenage years and I never ever heard of that story. It's really sad to hear all of this
Regardless of who was bullying, nobody can deny that the biggest villain in the whole situation was Kim Kwang Soo, the CEO of Core Contents Media. Around the time between I Go Crazy Because of You and Yayaya, he did an interview where he said that he keeps the members in competition with one another for lines and center positions to show them that "they need him more than he needs them" and was adding a new member to the group to keep them from becoming comfortable. I'm not saying Hwayoung is innocent, but the whole situation could have been avoided if he didn't foster a toxic work environment for his own sense of self worth.
+ those stupid antis and those fandom who created fabricated videos and photos.
This and Tablo incident actually changed how I see things forever. I was one of many people who blamed and hated t-ara members for bullying hwayoung, but after I read an article written by one t-ara fan which proved almost every bullying proof were fake and manipulated, I realized how dumb and naive I was and how evil and mean some Koreans are. Not saying t-ara is completely innocent, cause they should've not posted like that.
Starting hwayoung enter t ara, she already not respect the group member. Jiyeon almost cried alot and can be seeing on performance stage. Plus, her father control the company too as stakeholder. About tweet, i believe they really dont know how to express or maybe they already talk with company but no actions be taken. If you said t ara do a mistake, then hwayoung much and much trouble doing a mistake. Find it
Unless you were 12 you should've used critical thinking instead of just agreeing with everything. Think for yourself instead of believing everything on the internet.
Saying she was too young is such an excuse. Younger ones than her did not behave like her. And also this should be a perfect example of how people should grow a brain and not make judgements without solid proof. People saying "oh no, T-ara suffered so much because of her lies",sure, but they suffered more from their own fans' abuse
And the fact the she was 19 that time. Lmao. Isn't that already an adult.
To think that all of this could have been avoided only if the company had revealed the truth soon after the accusation.I still don't understand what they were worried about to think that it is better for four innocent ones to suffer hate from the public and also losing thousands of album sales that failed to happen bcoz of public hate
Even doe Hwayoung is the cause of the group downfall, its the ceo and company that ruined them for not standing up to the allegations and defending the members even if the ceo thought he had good intentions to just let it die down because none of the things Hwayoung said was true about the members but that just make the fans and k-net more mad and irritated because the ceo/company is ignoring them and not responding to their concerns & questions about the members and the allegations against them
the ryu siblings uncle were one of the executive in mbk if I remember?
Rewrite with punctuation. Run on sentences are not worth deciphering.
@@NotMykl u sound mad about my writing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 poor k troll don't have any friends or plans on this friday night but to be a troll....such a pitiful troll🤧
Thanks for making this video..hwayoung deserved to be hated and cancelled..she's not just ruined a big name like T-ARA..but because of her, every members have to suffer and face hates form K-nets not just hates but they also received death threats and their families are also affected.
YES, she isn't even apologetic so she doesn't deserve to be forgiven. N E V E R.
Not just the T-ARA members but us Queen's, the fans, if hwayoung didnt do what she did we wouldnt all be talking about this now feeling so frustrated about it
And her career as actress still going well. Meanwhile other members of t ara is going down.
I feel so sad when Hyomin said nobody want to close with them except snsd's members.
Just yuri and sunny hug her and brought her to their dorm to hear her story. (As long i remember they went to same show back then, that why they are close)
Or when IU still support jiyeon even whole industry hate them.
Just their close friend still hug them when this case happend
And the worst hwayoung never apologize and still active as actress. I remember watch her in beauty inside
Still active? Still haven't heard any new activities from her other than the Masked Singer gig.
@@lesleyblackvelvet7647 yes she's still active but after masked singer, she got lesser offers to be casted now. SERVE HER RIGHT, it's time that she serve her BLOODY KARMA.
Nahh I don’t think she is still active as she did in 2015-2017. I can say that T-ara is more active than her right now. They appeared in variety show and some of the members acted in drama and movie, and has photoshoot most of the time. They’re not active now as a group because they aren’t making a comeback but individually they’re doing really well.
Lol. T-ara members never go down, don't know where did you get that.
i miss tara so much i hope they can comeback just like the other 2nd gen groups. and the fact that hwayoung continued to become an actress is so ironic.
Jiyeon, eunjung and hyomin also an actress
they already did, they also own their trademarks too
They literally continue their careers even after that scandal. They are active till 2017 and had a comeback in 2021.
It's the company's fault. If they didn't say that the member's accounts were hacked, people wouldn't assume that the members were guilty. Although Hwayoung was mostly at fault here, this bullying rumors wouldn't start if they talked to each other instead of going in to social media.
but the real problem is their CEO add new member
True. Idrk T-Ara but based on what’s presented here, the members shouldn’t have been so petty online when the public doesn’t even know there’s supposedly a problem with Hwayoung.
Ofc they’re gonna look like the bullies bc their tirades were petty asf instead of just being honest about it and actually told the issue firsthand so people would know the context on their tweets
Claiming your account is "hacked" is an idiotic thing to claim when everyone is having a fight and way to easy to prove false.
The fact that the other member who talk later didn't trash the bad one, she on the other hand told people that she apologized to her and it's okay, shows the member's personality who got bullied.Even after all the drama and career ruining they are being humble.
you know what kpop teaches me. never FULLY trust the victum and always look around the situation before jumping to conclusions
@Yanu Dista Netz are inmature. Prove is they flow with the guts and not the brains, till the point where they can become bullies too.
I still remember how big T-Ara was back then. Then this incident happened and all is lost. As much as it's a loss, glad that the truth has finally been revealed.
What Mina did to AOA is one of those "crimes" that deserve 족주/Joju. Her bullying allegations have pretty much been verified as false. She literally ruined lives. The "funny" thing about S.Korea, is that bullying, especially sexual bullying/harassment from school level and then atm uni, work and military service, is so prolific but there seems to be no move for social change (as an outsider looking in).
Please let me know if there have been moves, especially in legislation against school level bullying and legislation to punish university bullying/hazing/ragging and in the military/first responders.
And the saddest thing about that is: She was unstable, she could've sought help but no, she didn't. And the biggist victim of her wrongdoings wasn't surprisingly Jimin, it was herself, because of her self-destructive behavior.
What’s Joju?
Wait were they really all lies? I stopped following that drama ages ago.
@@alien83smash yea,she wanted money from that situation,because she was bankrupt and sick
@@Wontonsouplyfe and I read it as Soju. 🙄🙄
It's always and forever my favorite girl's group. I never believed Hwayoung was bullied. I can completely understand Jiyeon being salty when even ppl working with them as a stuff admitted she was very problematic to work with. Jiyeon always seemed to me to be straight forward person showing always how she feels with almost no filter. I'm so happy she found the right guy and got married. This kind of irritation for long time had to be triggering..It would be for me to be honest.
Jiyeon is my favorite voice of Kpop she has a unique voice. Plus she is so beautiful ❤
Thank you for this! I hope more people gets to know this.
I was such a big T-ARA stan and it was such a tough period when the fake bullying scandal came out and years after, the backlash was still ongoing. I always defended T-ARA on Allkpop and Netizenbuzz despite the hate they were getting and I'm glad I didn't fall for the lies. I started following K-pop around 2008 or 2009 and stayed due to T-ARA and Eunjung. Years after being exhausted from defending T-ARA, I took a step back from Kpop. Although, I do check up on updates to do with T-ARA especially Eunjung, I'm done with Kpop. I just find K-pop to be too toxic and I am too old for K-pop now anyways. T-ARA will forever be that group that kept me hooked in K-pop.
I feel like I need to comment this. Despite the fake bullying scandal , T-ara is actually the third best selling 2nd gen girl group when it comes to Physical album sales, still in the top 3 when it comes to digital sales. Still one of the most successful girl group of their generation. ✨🌻
Until the bullying scandal happened
@@cespo837 We really can't deny the fact that their reputation was badly affected by that fake bullying scandal, Fyi they are still the third best selling girl group of second gen ( physical/digital) even after that scandal. They still manage to hold tours and concerts in China and Japan, been able to invite in some TV shows in China where they paid 5 times higher, all of that happened after the scandal. 🌻😌
@@user-mg1de9sl3l Yes because only Korea cares about bullying scandals to that extent, due to their severe bullying culture in schools. Of course bullying is a huge issue in Japan too (and most likely China as well), and there have been various scandals especially with AKB48, but nothing as severe as something like T-ara's bullying scandal, AOA's bullying scandal, or more recently Soojin being removed from (G)I-dle and Garam being removed from Le Sserafim over bullying rumours (without any real evidence, just allegations destroyed their careers).
T-ara was and still is my fav group.
I’ve never love a group as much as T-ara, they’re literally my teenage years and early adult years.
They accompanied me through a lot !
Even now when I hear their songs randomly in the streets of Seoul I’m so happy !
Not even gonna talk about the scandal cuz it was so unfair and back then in 2012, I was so shocked.
They didn’t deserve all this hate, no one deserve that.
I’m just so proud of being a fan of T-ara for so long, I’ve never doubt them, I saw them in concert, hugged them and talked to them a bit, that’s enough for me.
Wow you're so lucky!
It was my literal dream to meet them and talk to them back then... I never got a chance to watch them at any concert because they never travelled to my country or did any world tours ever since the scandal
i just never know why hwayoung was added to the group
Cuz they need to more popular and can need more money to invest for 5dolls, speed and seeya. If im not mistaken. Plus, soyeon also ex-snsd (before debut) so maybe their CEO want made them the next snsd. Dani almost become 9th member of t ara after Areum as 8th member.
If im not mistaken. Her father was one of stakeholder of the company. Thats why she added (her father also one of T-ara investor i believe cmiiw)
@Light_Bit yup. That is why hwayoung manner like that. She want people made her like a princess. And of course she want the most attention
Bcz the ceo wants to make them a 9 member group, they actually wanted to add dani after adding hwayoung and ahreum but yeah everything didn't happen as it's expected
T-ARA, Jimin (AOA), Garam, they all deserve an apology
Don't forget Soojin.
The main reason why I love Kpop because of T ara when I first saw their MTV TIme to love and Time to Listen and got curious about this girl group and started listening from all their songs. This group can do any genre of song from pop, ballad, love song, sexy, cute, retro, disco, rap, robotic etc... and all of them are really good and addicting to listen. I really miss T ara.
And to think that they still have work as actresses, especially Hwayoung, even after all this. And it's unfair, because bullying rumors ruin idols' careers, to the point of running them away from their groups, but she is a successful bully who has even won awards. Well, at least we knew that she would be a good actress before she even officially wanted to become one.
I'm sure she was very jealous of the other girls. Even though they were kind to her she probably didn't see herself as beautiful or as talented
Maybe cuz she have rich family so she think she can control the group. No wonder she have bad attitud
@@faizzarul she's from a rich family?? bdw is she still getting movie roles after everything she did to destroy her former group?
@Dawn35 yes. She is from rich family. She was added into t ara cuz her father invest a money with their company at that time, CCM. Plus, after the scandal, t ara have fans but not as strong as before. Plus we as Queens believe that there are side that believe hwayoung. So of course she can get a role in a drama. T ara member also have a role in drama and movies too. After Taxi hose on TV, people believe that t ara was blamed all the times by knetz and media. The truth revealed that hwayoung and hyoyoung were the behind of all scandal. Knetz also support t ara and feel pity with t ara. One more sad is when t ara win a music show "SBS The Show", more people even artist feeling blessed. The time cannot revert back, so t ara member already dismissed to be solo and will stay as a group when have a time
Whenever there is a bullying accusation, I always withhold my judgement due to what happened to T-ara. I never understood how it is justified to bully the accused.
3:30 sounds like another gg members in 2017-2019 lol girlie was not performing due to an “injury” couldn’t sing couldn’t dance gave the absolute BEAR minimum but yet was seen shopping the next day and walking just fine 💀
Who is it?
@@dollydoie who do u think it is?
I got you girl 😉😅
@@sehriniazi 🙈
the fact that she ruined t-ara and is still starring in dramas makes me furious.t-ara had so much potential to be bigger and she ruined that
FINALLY JUSTICE HAS SPOKEN. I LOVE U KOOKIELIT FOR BRINGING THE NEWS BACK.
I got into Kpop in the year 2011 when I saw a cameo of Jiyeon in Miss Ripley. I immediately searched her up because she was so beautiful and when I found out that she was in a girl group and the group itself and the songs that they've been releasing were such a massive hit, I immediately stanned them.
I remember when that scandal happened I was so mad at Hwayoung, I defended T-ara in online wars and even got threatened hahahahah (Never regreted defending them)
T-ARA was the reason why I got into kpop. I was never around in their early days but I was there in the peak of their careers. I was so damn proud of what they had managed to achieve and for Hwayoung to accuse them of bullying was so bullshit.
Those were the fun days. Before the bullying scandal, I would engage in fandom wars. I made a lot of friends and also enemies. I found a lot of things about them that you wouldn't know just by searching it up online.
Whenever they do concerts, I would ugly cry because I couldn't attend it. I had no money I couldn't even buy merch because I was a still a student at that time.
When they won that music show for "What's My Name" and they cried, I also cried with them because finally, after so many years. All those blood, sweat and tears, they achieved something again that was taken from them.
Whenever I think about the bullying scandal, rage clouds my mind and I cuss Hwayoung in my head and outloud so much. If I could turn back the time, I would beat up the CEO for adding Hwayoung to the line-up.
She is the master and
Mina IS her DISCIPLE.
I don't think Mina is her Disciple, but probably her tool, but Seo Shinae is definitely one.
@@raisou9750 for real seo shin-ae is disciple
@@ukay7979
She's the alumni.
.I thought you'd say anything new or different.. But this wil be helpful for the new k-pop stans who want to know and understand certain things.
I remember this. It was the news of the country amongst fans. It was the talk of the town in almost every university too
Totally unprofessional when members of the same group argue with each other publicly….period
I really loved T-ara. Have their album and listen their old songs even now. And i was their fan back then, when it all happened. It was devastating to see all this... We obviously can't know what was going on for sure, but i never stopped believing in girls. Their company shouldn't have add the new members... It was what ruined them. So sad. And everything just because of one girl... Still don't like her even after all these years.
T-ara is still existing though, if i'm not mistaken. It's only 4 of them (can be mistaken) and i really need back to listen them and support them!
Thanks for making a video without insults or hate spreads. Just facts. I see that there are things that T-ara, Hwayoung and Areum said in fact have connection. It's really a shame what happened to them.
Amazing topics
Still upset about this. T-ara was doing so well, they were so on the rise and I loved seeing Jiyeon on screen because she was a good actress. And then this shit happened and everything they did was scrutinized. Eff those sisters
I liked her in hello my twenties (also known as age of youth). That was my first ever kdrama and I didn’t know she was a former singer and supposed bully until a few years ago😬 and I did not know she had twin until this video
I don't understand why she is not canceled
Because korean necitizen are hypocrital they prefer cancel the so called bully but not the so called victim who is actually a liar
This reminds me of one girl in my class who faked her arm injury to get attention. She told us only 2-3 years later that it was fake. Nobody trusted her after that. There are also other lies that she told us but this is the main lie she told.
How many so-called T-ara fans believed this and joined in on the attacks to T-ara. When all the girls wanted, was to do the best to perform for their fans. And how many weren't T-ara fans but fans of other girl groups who thought getting rid of T-ara would be good for their own groups.
This caused the girls to struggle so hard at the end of their careers when they should have been reaping the benefits of all their hard work.
Can you make one for How Hyunjoo ruined APRIL members career? People need to know the facts
She won't. She supports hyunjoo.
To this day people will still believe lies and turn their back on idols
I am a fan not too long but, entered into fandom after the scandal! I guessed, my curiousity made it happened! I'm glad that I gave them the benefit of the doubt and have come to know the real truth behind the Ryu Twin's Fiasco (rather than T-ara Bully scandal),! These girls have learned a hard lesson because of it! But, a true fan, willl always listen but, not be blinded by the truth! And these OT6, their character and souls are intact! That's why, even up to now, us fans love them.
I remember when it happened their fandom was literally divided at that time.
I dont understand the company. I mean those girls worked years in training and get the name T-ara famous, and then the company added more ppl in to get all the fame they all worked hard for. ofc those girls would feel a bit tension toward new one
Hwayoungs dad is rich and friends with the CEO. wanted to add his daughters to the already succesful group cause of nepotism
their father is a rich & powerful person in South Korea, and he still remain a mystery till today
Some said he is a gangster, politician, high ranking officer in militer, or even congressman
Some queens believe he's a politician.
So that's why she & her twin easily get debuted few months after scouted from tv show. And queens even said their father is a good friend of their ceo.
Poor management. They could have talked issues out and settled them indoors instead of ranting in social media.
They were cancelled in SK for 7 years because if this fake bullying scandal. International queen's supported them especially Queen's China and Vietnam. The real bullies came out when they already ruined OT6 careers. Ent. companies in Korea haven't learn their lesson.
Im a fan of them since 2010. T-ara was one of those group who is well loved by the general public , it means they are well loved not just by kpop fans but also the general public with no particular age. That's why when the scandal rise up, the people who turned their back at them was the general public. Yes, there's also some Queens/kpop fans who turned their back at them but it's mostly the general public.
To make it clear , T-ara never disband even after that backlash from knetz. They only took a 1 month hiatus then continue to promote as a group, ofc without Hwayoung. They still manage to have a concert/tours in Japan and China , receiving endorsement and acting offers. Consistently released a comeback from 2013-2017.
It's just a shame that we don't see the full potential of their popularity beacuse of that scandal. But looking at it now, T-ara recently have a comeback last December 2021 , manage to released a single album without a company. For those people who keep on saying that T-ara was nothing beacuse of that scandal , you guys are just insane.
This is a perfect example of not believing rumors right away. Rumors don't always equal the truth.
Hi! Could you do the next video about Lee Gai? I would really love to see your version of the story!! ❤❤
Until now, i will never forget and forgive what hwayoung did to T-ARA. It's hard for me to love and like other kpop girl groups now than T-ARA.
T-ara was one of my favourite girl groups; to think that without this scandal, they would've continued the height of their popularity, making songs and amazing MVs. I will always miss the original 6 members
I been a kpop fan in 2009 when I was 12, and I remember when this leg injury was big scandal. I remember thinking something about this scandal was not adding up
So tired of the word 'scandal' being used incorrectly. Use the correct words - fake, false and etc.
Man I remember up to 2012 how they were raining supreme.
ryu hwayoung, i will never forgive you
She ruined other people’s career and hers should be ruined as well. Karma will get her one day
Also I allways thought it was a HUGE MISTAKE made by the company, to have idol twins, and made them debut under different groups.
Big mistake since the first day.
The bullying controversy was a lie, I never believe the bullying controversy either, I waited till the truth came out, the girls did nothing wrong, it was Hwayoung and her twin sister Hyoyoung from F-ve Dolls harassing the members and threatening Areum (T-ara's maknae during Day By Day promotions) with physical harm, I can't believe netizens believe this fake allegations, so stupid, I'm happy for the 6ARAs (although they're currently 4 members now) with their activities and solo activities, the Ryu sisters are so disgusting
so from the video.. I guess she was a drama queen and high maintenance but that doesn't disprove that she wasn't bullied by her members lmao. two things can be true at once. perhaps because of her alleged attitude/work ethic they bullied her even more, on top of being a latest addition to the group. It's quite obvious from the catty tweets they posted sneak dissing her as she exaggerated an injury. lol you do not do that to a group member if you're not hostile towards them.
@@naranja1972 Dude grow up. Hwayoung skipped out on rehearsals so she and her Dad or manager could doctor shop until they could find one who would give her a cast. It's all nonsense, fakeness and stupidity. You need to stop acting like a 12 year old, grow up and start using your brain.
@@naranja1972 it doesnt justify hwayoung and hyoyoung did
We'll never know what really happened, they were young and i understand that the original members were angry, they were already doing well with 6 members and then, hwayoung came and all the hardwork they have done is gone . Let's say it was because of the ceo and maybe their management team who didn't know how to calm down all these tension
How was all their hard work "gone"? Did they stop existing as a group? Two more people were added and they sounded BETTER.
Well damn for the first time I am early, I have never heard any of their songs since I was pretty young when they debut and when they were active, I just know the group had a history and I still don't know much till today so idk if this video has all the information or not and recommend me some of their songs as well
T-ARA has the best discography in Kpop with many extraordinary songs. Ironically some of their best songs were released after the scandal started, such as Number 9, Sugar Free, First Love and Do You Know Me? Other great songs include Like the First Time, I Go Crazy Because of You, Day By Day, Round and Round, Target, Sexy Love, Lovey Dovey, etc. Bo Peep Bo Peep and Roly Poly were huge hits, but I prefer their later stuff. They had an incredible comeback in 2021 with Tiki Taka and All Kill. Look for videos of the evolution of T-ARA.
Their songs are very
good. I particularly love So-Yeon.
Her vocals are great.
I can still remember when everyone was vibing to T-ara's Rolly Polly and Lovey Dovey back in 2011..
Back then they didn't even get fair treatment on an award show and SHINee members and SNSD members defended them 🤧
Are you talking about the SBS thing? They are not defending them tho.
It’s weird that she is still an actress nowadays
the ultimate snake of kpop
To me, her and Mina (former AOA) are tied as ultimate snakes
Her, Mina, actress Seo Shinae (who accused Soojin of bullying) are the real snakes
@@bubba94290 for me, It is Seo Shinae and Hwayoung.
nah. they r nothing compared to April's ex member hyunjoo. she succeeded in totally destroying the lives and careers of her former group mates. the damage done to their reputation was deemed irrecoverable that April had to officially disband. Both T-ara and AOA haven't officially disbanded, rite?
s#arp seo jiyoung is a strong contender
I'm laughing at all the idiots who believed hwayoung and burned their collections of merchandise LMAO especially the ones that won't ever release again
True. But the weird is, t ara (Queens) have so much supporter to help vote. I believe they can manage to get the most votes for mnet worldcup championship 2014 if i am not mistaken. They win against BTS, Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez and so on. So i would like to say t ara fans very powerful after the incident. China fans also increase day by day and t ara really no 1 in china. No one can beat them. Even exo also triggered with t ara fanchant by fans in yinyuetai award. Plz check
Why everyone SPECULATED like they know everything???
and there’s still have a fan defend Ryu sisters euw.
Cuz they are antis t ara. So that is why
Can we all really fault hwayoung entirely ?
Yes she played a role , then so did t-Ara. T-ara brought their personal issues towards Hwayoung to Twitter “the internet” (given that they are a public figure forgetting everyone including their fans will see it ) they were bashing her on social media going against her which wasn’t a smart move thus making their selves seem obvious to the bullying scandal, so they pretty much jumped right into that one by making their issues PUBLIC , that was messy on their end. They should have kept their issues towards Hwayoung to them selves and had a private conversation/group discussion with her. they are both responsible.
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If a group of 5 girls (minus qri) are targeting 1 girl on Twitter/ the internet then it’s going to be seen as bullying so in a way, t ara played a BIG ROLE in their own downfall
While I’m not making excuses for hwayoung I feel like both parties are at fault.
But this was a couple years ago, I hope Hwayoung, and t-Ara learned and reflected from this.
Fr, and for the record T-ara members admits their mistakes, they are fully aware that they've done something immature in the tweeter part. They take all the responsibilities and never blamed anyone. It was actually T-ara's immaturity ( that time ) the agency mishandling the issue and Hwayoung being disrespectful, I'll mannered and immaturity.
@@jijipir4220 definitely the agency not handling the issue when it escalated I blame their CEO he should’ve done damage control right then and there
Maybe Hwayoung had a rotten attitude but how do we know the girls weren’t mean to her first?
I’m not coddling t ara because they were being messy, I do empathize with them however in terms of their music career, they have been training for years to get were they were in their career and to have someone new and inexperienced in the industry can create a hindrance and i feel as a team they were against the idea of a new addition to the group and felt Hwayoung would drag them down and took their anger and aggression out on her, thus hwayoung having a bad attitude
Keep in mind im just going off a pure speculation we will never know what really happened but i do think there was some drama
@@SweetLindsey123 Hwayoung never claimed she was bullied , she even denied it once, as well as Ahreum . Ahreum described it as a discord that even a family can experience. Agree it was the management as well as the narrow minded people. Plus those people who keeps on fabricating/editing videos and pictures of T-ara to make it looks like a bullying.
@@jijipir4220 I think as a team the girls lacked a lot communication the CEO (mainly the CEO) and the management team should’ve nipped it in the bud real fast and got them together to talk it out
@@SweetLindsey123 Yeah, they already told that part. I remember when KKS told in a interview that when the members discovered Hwayoung action in Japan concert, he refused to settled it that day, he just told the girls to calm down and settled it in Korea. Maybe that's why the members are upset and went to tweeter.
My name is Tara and I keep thinking people are talking about me or something whenever I see their name 😭
As a Queens since 2012. I always saw hwayoung as a spoiled brat, hence the probable reason other members were distant to her. She got inserted to the group in its peak, she didnt went through the years of rigorous audition and training but she and her sister was bought in to be in a kpop group.
I don't think they are distant with her ? She seems to be really close with the members. Since they keep on explaining that it was a simple discord between the member's that even family experience.
It’s ironic that her fake injury also showed up in her drama “Mad Dog”
Like did she give the producer the idea or did the writers write that in knowing she’s done it in real life?
What she did without apologising cannot be condone for her actions that caused T-ARA trauma for years