The Enthusiasm Project I would say yes. 4k video is so easy to get nowadays it is hard to see why people use 1080p. 4k has been on phones for years, and it is making its way to lower end 4k cameras as well
No. Top vloggers are ditching 4K. Or even shooting in 4K and converting down. Upload times and over heating issues still not resolved. 4k issues will eventually be overcome. We all know that. But the reality is...it isn’t a must have feature. Not a deal breaker. This is the most underrated Camera of the year.
Upgraded from Canon 750Dto 6D mark ii. Can't express my joy in mere words. Even while sleeping i am keeping my hand on this camera. I am terribly happy. Thanks !!
I agree (that it's a great friggin' camera). I had a 70D before this and it's been nice to NOT be forced to learn a whole new control interface. All in all, it's a super solid choice!
Man I’m right there with you and just bought this with the 24-105 kit lens. No interest in 4k because I’m not shooting video. End of story. The hype about the full frame die off against mirrorless is just absurd IMO. Any recommendations on a solid 70-300 or better for shooting long range wildlife? Doesn’t need to be Canon. Thanks for this video you posted!
Hey William! Glad you like your camera. All of the Canon and Sigma 70-200 lenses I’ve used are terrific, but I don’t have any experience with longer lenses than that.
Always happy to see POSITIVE reviews on this camera instead of the usual reviewers whining about the lack of 4k ad nauseum (besides, I use cameras mainly for photos and only shoot video 2% of the time at the most). Had been thinking about adding this to my arsenal and this was very helpful!
It’s a great camera! With the price of the EOS R coming down, I’d probably recommend that for video, but the 6D is super solid and delivers great photos. I still use it all the time. 😎
Thank you. At last someone mentions the issues of data size / storage / processing and the potential overheating and related problems. I've has my old 80D for a while and just bought a new-old-stock 6D Mk2. I am sure that I will love them both equally. Keep up the great work.
@@tombuck Thanks for the tip, I'm thinking of getting a Rode Videomic NTG to learn how to film wildlife and birds, I've mostly done stills so far, hopefully we'll see Brent geese in Essex this winter...
I totally agree with you, the 6D Mark II is a great camera. I own 2 Canon XC-10 that can record 4K, great autofocus but the files are huge, and the CFast Cards are expensive... Last year I was looking for a DSLR option and the 6D Mark II took my attention. I finally purchase it, and a couple of lenses. I'm happy with the Camera.
The same is true for photo, when an old computer already lags with 20mp, it will probably take 26mp, but will struggle above 30mp RAW. We do great work because we have a fluid workflow, 4K or high megapixel RAW images are disrupting for the workflow. To get good shots, take more shots, to get good footage, take more footage. The resolution is really secondary, because a sharp 6MP image is always better than a 100mp blurry one. And no matter if you have 100mp if the hair or makeup is off, or if the pose is off, it's off. There are also software to get more from a picture too, if you want to push it. But the requirement is always to actually have the good shot. To catch THAT moment.
I agree. I was planning to buy a 5d mk4 but I got a 6d mk2 and I fell in love immediately. Thanks to the rotating screen, I took so many photos that I probably wouldn't have taken a 5d mk4. I love it as much as my ds2 for its beautiful image and small files. 4k? Hmm, many times I had a phone attached to the lamp's shoe, which was a recorder of what I photographed. I like filming with the phone and I like 6d, it would be nice if it had 4k but the bitrate it would record probably both the camera and my computer cooked.
@@tombuck I just finished making reproductions of the drawings for the book. Most often, I take photos on a flipping screen, even with a 300mm tele flipping screen, is accurate and fast. Even with a Canon 5d mk10 without such a screen, I would not take many photos. I would like 4k in it but with bitrate settings. Because I believe that the factory settings are not always optimal. I know it from the phone calls. The default software produces large files with poor image quality and the alternative apps have better compression, give smaller files with a better image quality. Most often I shoot from the hip by touching the screen. Also moving objects. 6d mk2 is just great. Of course 6d is not weather sealed but we can use alternative solution. Great movie. 👍
Hi Tom, I another Podcast with Kevin you showed your Canon 6D MII als Vlog CAM with live picture... I have a 6D MII as well connected to an atem mini and want to use it for live streaming. How did you manage to get a clean HDMI feed from the cam? As far as I know, it is not possible....but in the Video you has a clean live picture without focus grid... - you have an awesome channel, I learned so much from you already.... love it..!
Hey Thomas (great name)! You're correct that the 6D II doesn't have clean HDMI out. But if you turn off all of the display info and switch it into manual focus, you'll get a clean signal (the only downside being no autofocus). IT works great for stationary setups though. My wife has been using the 6D this way for I think almost two years now and it's perfect.
Just ordered it since I will be using this mostly for photography it will not affect me at all but i do still appreciate hearing this since it give me reassurance of my reasoning behind buying this cam.
A very solid camera. I’ve since upgraded, but this is now my wife’s main camera and it’s never skipped a beat for either of us. Our house is filled with blown up prints that it’s taken. 👍
I’m with ya 100% . Traded in my Leica Q and street style photography for a new 6D Mark ii and the Canon L 50mm 1.2 Lens and limitless styles of photography. I feel like I have 3 types of cameras all in one now: full frame dslr stills camera; video production camera; and mirrorless live view camera. Great video! Subscribed.
Awesome! That’s exactly how I feel using this camera since December. It’s the most versatile piece of gear I’ve ever owned. I’m currently borrowing a Sony A7III for a review, and while it really is quite a beast, I would never give up my Canon for it. 👍
The Enthusiasm Project yeah, I was close to going with the A7iii since I got enough credit from trading in my Leica...I had the A7ii and used it for a wedding. It performed admirably but Adobe Lightroom didn’t like the Sony files...so I’m back FULL CIRCLE to Canon. I did like the small rangefinder feel of the Leica. So I’m picking up a Canon M6 when I get a few more green in the bank. Glad I stumbled upon your channel while desperately looking for POSITIVE REVIEWS on the 6D mii. I thought I was losing my mind..this is a great camera for what it offers for the price!
I feel your pain, so I’m glad to find someone else who appreciates this camera. I think more people are coming around now that it’s been out for a while- the initial reception last summer was pretty brutal.
Just upgraded to this camera and as a photographer I love it. Picked it up with a 24-105 f/4 USM IS II lens for $600 less than a 5D Mark IV body only. For me it was a no brainer and I will use the video very little. It's a great camera.
I don't know why so many people hate the 6Dmkii !?! Really ?! This camera is just amazing and it's the only full frame with a Flip screen!! The dual pixel af does a great job! And you have the biggest choice Lens EF! 1080p is very good! If you can see the difference with 4K on TH-cam and on your phone you are maniac !! The battery life is very good And only 1400$ on Amazon... If your not agree go buy the Sony A7 iii 2200$
I have the 6DMKII and BMPCC6K, and prefer the 6DMKII. The video dynamic range is not as good, but if you know how to set exposure, there isn't a big difference, especially with a variable ND. I'm selling my BMPCC6k and getting a Panasonic S1H because that would actually feel like an upgrade over the 6dmkii.
Yes!! I’m importing footage from mine right now, it’s terrific! B&H has a cool bundle for $1300 at the moment too (doesn’t have a lens, bust still a great price).
@@tombuck I'm looking at a bundle for the same price on Amazon right now! Since the price has dropped so much since you released this vid, I don't think it can be beat!
How long can it record before going to sleep, and how about overheating issues? I used to stick my Sony in the fridge to cool it down faster in between filming LOL
I haven’t had any overheating issues at all, and it can record continuously for 30 minutes (although it does split footage into 4gb files). A non-mirrorless 1080p camera shouldn’t have the heating issues of a mirrorless 4k beast.
The 6D II doesn’t have clean hdmi, but there are two workarounds: 1. Keep the camera in manual focus (works if you’re not moving much) 2. Use the Canon EOS Webcam Utility app with the camera connected via USB (gives a clean signal with autofocus!)
Really awesome and honest review. Seems everyone I’ve watched on this subject all “need” 4k but don’t have a real reason why. Nice to see someone with an actual realistic point of view. Of course 4k is nice but if someone lacks the fundamentals of videography then it doesn’t matter what resolution it’s in. I’d rather watch an interesting video in 720p over a boring video in 8k. also packing 4k in one of the smaller full frame canon bodies would have probably caused overheating like the mirrorless options out right now.
Thanks Wes! I agree 100% Even after having the 6D II for a year, my thoughts are still exactly the same. It’s a tremendous camera, and like all Canon’s, VERY reliable. The biggest practical benefit I can currently see to is the ability to crop in when scaling down to 1080, but that’s not something I do very often, so it’s not a priority for me personally.
The Enthusiasm Project I could see that being a thing! I watch TH-cam mainly from mobile and even my MacBook is pre-retina so it honestly doesn’t make a big difference for me at all lol. Also I feel like I’ve watched 98% of the videos on TH-cam of this camera. Come January or February I will for sure be picking one up. It’s much nicer seeing videos like this of someone talking from experience rather than someone calling it a bad camera because they’re reading specs off of a website. I know I’ll be perfectly happy with what I’ll be getting! I’m glad you’re still enjoying it. Looking forward to doing the same.
Pretty much every video on my channel since last December was made with the 6D II. I’ve traveled all over with it and it’s still my favorite camera I’ve been had. There are some REALLY good holiday deals on it at the moment too.
Hey Tom - I love your videos and both channels - unless you have more than 2? I need to upgrade my 6d mark I and 200D for my youtube videos. I don't care about 4K - 1080 is all I need. Should I get 6d mark II (I am very happy with b roll I get from 6d mark I) or RP? Ir should I spend more and get R?
I didn't know I had two channels?! I did change my channel name last month, so maybe that caused some confusion? But thank you! And to answer your question: I'm literally editing a video right now that explains why I invested in a 2nd EOS R, so that absolutely gets my recommendation! The 6D is still great, but the price difference has become pretty minor between it and the R, and the R is just a much better camera overall.
It's a really wonderful camera. We have one at work that my students use. I think that it's more geared for photography while the A7III has many more video centric features. But they're both great, and the low light performance is ridiculous.
@@tombuck Thanks for the warning on that Tom! On my 70d the ALL-I looks very good, I also have IPB and tried it once and did not like it, seemed a little fuzzy?
Good video, nice and informative! thanks :) One quick non related question (if you can answer), what program/devices do you use for the animated hand written stuff? Is it with Illustrator? Anything else or tips in that regard would be appreciated. I love the simplicity :)
Hey Martin! I use Procreate in the iPad for all of the titles. I have a few videos about it that cover the basics 👍 Procreate is probably the best $10 you can spend anywhere.
Thank you for your review. I'm considering buying 6D mark II and I don't need 4K video. However your Sony picture looks way better than when you started shooting with 6D. I wonder if it is solely because of 4K 🤔
There are quite a few factors, and this probably isn’t the best side by side comparison. If you’re looking for a camera in the price range of the 6D, I might recommend the Canon RP. It’ll give you a bit more clarity and sharpness.
@@tombuck Thank you for your reply. Actually I don't really care about video quality as long as video capability is presented. I have exactly the same requirements as in your list except 4K video. So thank you for your review, I'm happy.
It’s been a few years since I made this video, and 4K is more common now, but still not the be all end all. I still film in 1080 for the sake of simplicity and then scale it up to 4K for TH-cam.
It’s true! I’ve had some projects show at theatres and everything looks perfect. Obviously 4K is even crisper, but 1080 is very usable and super easy to work with.
Thank you. Bout time a great review other than some canon hate. At the end of the day it’s all about the photographer. I think all this technology has made a lot of people lazy.
I saw a video from Matt D'Avella where he said, "The best camera isn't the one you have, it's the one you master." I think there's a ton of truth in that. The benefits of the technology plateau at a certain point, and after that it's all about the person behind the camera.
How about the video in ipb which is ive read is bad? I'm looking for my first FF (spell cheap lol). Should I just buy the mark 1 or wait for the eos rp? Thanks
I don’t have any experience with the RP, but it seems like a decent camera for the price. I think a few of its issues can be fixed via firmware updates. I love the 6D II in all regards, so I highly recommend this camera.
Hi, how are you? Do you know if the 6DII can use an external monitor and usethe monitor of the camera at the same time? And do you use Magic Lantern on it? Thanks!
Hi! The lcd does turn off when you connect an external monitor. And I haven’t used Magic Lantern in this camera yet. It does everything I need it to. 👍
Anyone have a recommendation for use as a 'dashcam'? the dashcam market does not offer what i am looking for.. i want higher quality image while driving and not the blotchy mess where the camera tries filling in data and part of the picture melts together.
@@tombuck I have used an action cam, but not the GoPro, it was a cheaper version. I saw someone using a Sony A6400 and it seemed like it was pretty good quality for driving. I just really want a camera for landscape photography as well, and don't want to have to spend money on both a GoPro and a digital camera. Right now i am eyeing up the Sony a7II, just can't find any videos of it being used for driving. I appreciate your response!
The main reason on why I love 4k is NOT that I can export 4k. It's about the fact that you can competely re-frame and crop your shots without sacrificing resolution.
4K is only interesting to get better 1080p. If you have good 1080p footage, that's enough. I agree that Canon has the right colours and the flip screen is also a huge thing, not only for photo and video, but also for astrophotography.
I'm using Canon 6d mark II + Sigma 35 mm combination, but struggle to get good quality video footage. The picture quality is very good, but when shooting video and exporting at maximum possible quality settings, the footage looks almost like it was taken with a phone.. Also, it's very hard to colour grade the footage, as it becomes quite muddy and unpleasant to the eye and the default colours don't look great either. I've watched a bunch of tutorials on color grading and majority of them are using Sony's slog3 algorithm for shooting. Am I expecting too much from my camera or I'm just doing it wrong?
Hmm, this is interesting. With that lens especially you should be getting some great results. I've had good luck with the default picture profile and the sharpening turned down a little bit. The footage is 8 bit color with a fairly small bitrate, so it's not the most versatile to edit with, but a good lens and decent lighting SHOULD be able to get you most of the way there.
Ha, it’s definitely a confusing road sometimes, but overall I find it fun since I’ve always been into gear. A couple moths later and I’m LOVING the 6DII.
Hi Tom, I bought a 4K TV and I was not noticing any different in my hula shows and regular tv shows , now I know why. Thank you I thought it was something wrong with the tv.
0:36 AMEN! I shoot my music videos in 1080p with an entry cheap Canon 700D and I can tell from my youtube analytics 95% of my viewers are watching from mobile screens so in a few words FK 4K! p.s Great content, keep up the good work!
I have made a simiar list of checkboxes and had reached the same conclusion. I am truly fascinated of how much heat the camera has got. If people are so offended by it's very existence there so no need for them to buy it.
I'm satisfied with my 6d2 so far. There is no perfect camera in this world. It's really good enough and outstanding performer. Invest in lenses with the extra budget.
well i want a good camera that's full frame one that takes great pictures and video. i was told to buy this camera so i want to know a lot about this camera. i want to buy the tamron 24-70 and the tamron 35-150. you said it's only good for taking pictures and not for shooting video. well please tell me a good full frame camera please so i can check it out.
The lack of 4k is not a real problem. But the 1080p quality is just too soft compared to the 5D IV, shooting people with a shallow depth-of-field looks acceptable, but the rest is just too soft.
I wish it was. Of course the lens does contribute to the look of the image and the colours, AF are great as always, but overall it is just too damn soft (almost the same as the 5D Mark III from 2012) but at least it is not always unflattering. But it is just annoying, considering the higher-priced 5D IV is still sticking to a fixed touchscreen (making the 6D II more attractive). The EOS M50 already has somewhat improved 1080p quality with a newer processor. So there is some hope, that if Canon comes out with a cheaper cousin to the EOS R, it will squeeze out better quality from a similar 26MP sensor. They have the basics right, they are just slow to getting there.
@@tombuck Sadly it's not the lens but the old compression format and the low bitrate. The 1080p from the 6d mark II looks almost like 720p from the a7r II
Can’t believe I missed this from two months ago! I do think the R is a very interesting camera, and I can’t wait to see where they take the lineup. It has ALMOST everything I’d want.
Unfortunately the 6Dii does not have 2 card slots. And unfortunately the 5Div doesn't have the articulating LCD viewing screen. So for those 2 reasons, I have to use both cameras. But in terms of all the other still frame features I find the 6Dii pretty much interchangeable with the 5Div. Using 2 of these cameras gives me everything that I need.
Does anyone know if you can see through the view finder while using an HDMI out on the Canon 6D Mark II.? (Currenty I have a 700D and you can’t see through the view finder while using a HDMI out. ) Also does this fill the 16:9 aspect ratio on the screen so it does not show bars at the side like it does with my 700d
Even when you watch a 4k clip @ 1080p it still looks way better! hence why i sold my canon 70d for a sony a6300 the Image quality is miiiiles better and the autofocus is actually better! only downside is the articulating screen... but i'd take better IQ all day ... cheers !
4K at 1080 is definitely sharper, but I’ve found a really good lens on a dale at 1080 can get darn close. Love the Sony cameras, but definitely wish they had the same types of screen as Canon!
Canon's Dual Pixel AF is apparently still the best. I thought the autofocus in Sony was better until I watched this video. th-cam.com/video/9CM5S8QwDTY/w-d-xo.html
But unfortunately the IPB quality is terrible. Compared to any All-I film, the quality is noticeably inferior. I love this camera but video is useless to me. I've been trying Cinematic Profile lately because I need to record something and I have 2 choices. Sell 6Dmk2, and buy e.g. R or 5Dmk2 or 3 and try Magic Lantern to get 4K.
When u switched to canon footage, i see more details in ur face than u were in rx100v. Skin color looks more natural too. But, ur white balance keeps shifting all throughout lol. Re 4k, yeah it is overrated at this point. Probably in the next 5 yrs it should be viable to evrryone but for now it is much hyped
Ha, yeah the white balance was funky because of the LEDs in the background (they’re just cheapies from Amazon). Now that I have had the camera for a few months, I’ve got the settings pretty dialed in and I love it! And using a 1080 workflow is MUCH simpler than 4K was (even though I do think 4K looks great).
It's still a great camera, but I do think that the EOS R is better overall, and now that the price has come down, it's tough not to recommend. The 6D II seems to sell between $1300 and $1400 right now, whereas the R can be found for $1600 to $1700. I think it's totally worth the extra money, especially for video. That being said, the 6D is still a great camera, and is built like an absolute tank. The reliability is excellent!
The Enthusiasm Project: thank you for your reply. I’m currently running a 60D with Ef 24-70f/4 and ef70-200 f/2.8 II and nifty fifty. Money is tight (like it is always for majority of us). Plus, it’s more expensive to buy it in India. Saving to buy 6D II. I never do video. And coming from 9 point autofocus on 60D with only Center cross point, I think everything more is bonus. I’m still not convinced about EOS R and using an adapter to use my existing lens (battery life is a an issue.) 2 batteries of 60D has lasted me 15 days of vacation with around 4000 shots.
Haha, that’s a big one! It’s a small detail, but really important. The price tag of the 1D is a bit out of my range too. The 6D’s screen has been a lifesaver on many occasions.
I think it depends on the purpose. For legit filmmakers/documentarians it absolutely makes sense, but for someone who wants great quality video, a more affordable option that lets you swap out lenses is pretty tough to beat. 👍
I think it’s more camera makers that are the problem. I for one would like to see then make cameras for photography only. Imagine where that sensor tech could be if they weren’t so focused on video tech.
@@Dustyphoto915 I have looked at raw files from Hasselblad and Phase one, those are lightyears from my 6D2 but whe I look back at my Sigma SD10 pixel peeping I find again that crispness, like no AA filter. YES, I think that there should be separate still only photography camera and video cameras. Maybe share some lenses, but even then, for video and photo you do not need the same lenses, where in video you do not want focus breathing, while for photo colours and chromatic aberrations and bokeh texture and quality are important. Video is better with anamorphic, blue flares etc. While I need different things in photo. The brain for photo is different from the brain for video. To do good dolly video you need complex rigs, while photo is as simple as admiring the beauty of a moment and just taking it as a picture to make a memory stronger. The device is less important than the fact, the moment, the thinking, the happiness you get the shiver, the expectation, the experiment, the failures, the urge to try again, LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL.
I don't care about 4k but i care about 120fps....i dob't enjoy my 6d mark ii on videos...i enjoy it on pictures but not on lowlight for sure...i hate it on lowlight but it works well on good lighting environment
Interesting, hmmm. I’m working on a review for the Sigma 24 1.4, which I love. I had to use the usb dock to adjust the focus a bit, but now I don’t like taking it off my camera.
@@tombuck i really want a 24 1.4 sigma cause i like wide angle shots...but i really wanna try 85 1.4 sigma...i already have 35...all i want is a sigma 35,50, and 85 1.4 and i'll be happy❤
i don't care about no 4k i like my full 1080p i just want a camera that takes great pictures and i can shoot video when i want to. i need good auto focus flippy screens good in low light and can change lens when i can. i want to buy me a full frame camera and call it a day
I have a 1080p Epson video projector with a picture of 2.4 meter wide and I sit 3,5 meters away, the detail, the contrast, the sense of vastness of void, the hair count, the golden hour all is absolutely stunning. 4K is just marketing, the only purpose is to film higher def to supersample back to 1080p. There is nothing uglier than an oversharp over saturated 4K image. Supermarket 4k makes me throw up.
Do you think that 4K is a must have feature? Especially for online platforms like TH-cam?
The Enthusiasm Project I would say yes. 4k video is so easy to get nowadays it is hard to see why people use 1080p. 4k has been on phones for years, and it is making its way to lower end 4k cameras as well
No. Top vloggers are ditching 4K. Or even shooting in 4K and converting down. Upload times and over heating issues still not resolved. 4k issues will eventually be overcome. We all know that. But the reality is...it isn’t a must have feature. Not a deal breaker. This is the most underrated Camera of the year.
I’ve been doing 1080p since this video, and haven’t seen a drop in quality. It also speeds up my workflow and saves a ton of disk space.
no 4K is not ready to be the new standord.
I agree wholeheartedly, but it definitely does have advantages.
Upgraded from Canon 750Dto 6D mark ii. Can't express my joy in mere words. Even while sleeping i am keeping my hand on this camera. I am terribly happy. Thanks !!
That so great to hear! It’s definitely still my favorite camera. I hope you keep on enjoying yours! 😎
I upgraded from a Canon 700d so i know how it feels!
😂👍
I just upgraded from a 2000d which is much worse than the 750d lol.
Thanks for making me feel better about my purchase.
Dude, it’s such a great friggin’ camera! I know that’s not the most technical review, but it works.
I agree (that it's a great friggin' camera). I had a 70D before this and it's been nice to NOT be forced to learn a whole new control interface. All in all, it's a super solid choice!
I agree completely!
Man I’m right there with you and just bought this with the 24-105 kit lens. No interest in 4k because I’m not shooting video. End of story. The hype about the full frame die off against mirrorless is just absurd IMO.
Any recommendations on a solid 70-300 or better for shooting long range wildlife? Doesn’t need to be Canon. Thanks for this video you posted!
Hey William! Glad you like your camera. All of the Canon and Sigma 70-200 lenses I’ve used are terrific, but I don’t have any experience with longer lenses than that.
Always happy to see POSITIVE reviews on this camera instead of the usual reviewers whining about the lack of 4k ad nauseum (besides, I use cameras mainly for photos and only shoot video 2% of the time at the most). Had been thinking about adding this to my arsenal and this was very helpful!
It’s a great camera! With the price of the EOS R coming down, I’d probably recommend that for video, but the 6D is super solid and delivers great photos. I still use it all the time. 😎
6 years gone bye and I just ordered a new 6D Mk ii. I hope i made the right choice, Tom.
It's still a wonderful camera! Especially for photos.
me too
For me, this was a buy of a lifetime. The photography from this camera is a miracle considering its my first full frame
It’s such an awesome piece of gear!
When you switched to the 6d, the shot looked so much better than the sony.
I agree. I’m going to do a long term follow up review soon. It’s still my favorite camera!
Thank you.
At last someone mentions the issues of data size / storage / processing and the potential overheating and related problems.
I've has my old 80D for a while and just bought a new-old-stock 6D Mk2.
I am sure that I will love them both equally.
Keep up the great work.
Can't go wrong with those! Their 1080 footage is nice enough to upscale to 4K during editing if you ever need to. It holds up and looks great.
@@tombuck Thanks for the tip, I'm thinking of getting a Rode Videomic NTG to learn how to film wildlife and birds, I've mostly done stills so far, hopefully we'll see Brent geese in Essex this winter...
I totally agree with you, the 6D Mark II is a great camera. I own 2 Canon XC-10 that can record 4K, great autofocus but the files are huge, and the CFast Cards are expensive...
Last year I was looking for a DSLR option and the 6D Mark II took my attention. I finally purchase it, and a couple of lenses. I'm happy with the Camera.
It’s a really awesome camera for sure, and super reliable 👍
The same is true for photo, when an old computer already lags with 20mp, it will probably take 26mp, but will struggle above 30mp RAW. We do great work because we have a fluid workflow, 4K or high megapixel RAW images are disrupting for the workflow. To get good shots, take more shots, to get good footage, take more footage. The resolution is really secondary, because a sharp 6MP image is always better than a 100mp blurry one. And no matter if you have 100mp if the hair or makeup is off, or if the pose is off, it's off. There are also software to get more from a picture too, if you want to push it. But the requirement is always to actually have the good shot. To catch THAT moment.
I've been filming vlogs with the 6D MKII for almost a year and love it! Thanks for highlighting it.
You’re welcome Dan, glad you’re enjoying yours!
I agree. I was planning to buy a 5d mk4 but I got a 6d mk2 and I fell in love immediately. Thanks to the rotating screen, I took so many photos that I probably wouldn't have taken a 5d mk4. I love it as much as my ds2 for its beautiful image and small files. 4k? Hmm, many times I had a phone attached to the lamp's shoe, which was a recorder of what I photographed. I like filming with the phone and I like 6d, it would be nice if it had 4k but the bitrate it would record probably both the camera and my computer cooked.
The flippy screen is so versatile for much more than vlogging. It really does come in handy for photograhpy!
@@tombuck I just finished making reproductions of the drawings for the book. Most often, I take photos on a flipping screen, even with a 300mm tele flipping screen, is accurate and fast. Even with a Canon 5d mk10 without such a screen, I would not take many photos. I would like 4k in it but with bitrate settings. Because I believe that the factory settings are not always optimal. I know it from the phone calls. The default software produces large files with poor image quality and the alternative apps have better compression, give smaller files with a better image quality. Most often I shoot from the hip by touching the screen. Also moving objects. 6d mk2 is just great. Of course 6d is not weather sealed but we can use alternative solution. Great movie. 👍
Hi Tom, I another Podcast with Kevin you showed your Canon 6D MII als Vlog CAM with live picture... I have a 6D MII as well connected to an atem mini and want to use it for live streaming. How did you manage to get a clean HDMI feed from the cam? As far as I know, it is not possible....but in the Video you has a clean live picture without focus grid... - you have an awesome channel, I learned so much from you already.... love it..!
Hey Thomas (great name)! You're correct that the 6D II doesn't have clean HDMI out. But if you turn off all of the display info and switch it into manual focus, you'll get a clean signal (the only downside being no autofocus). IT works great for stationary setups though. My wife has been using the 6D this way for I think almost two years now and it's perfect.
Just ordered it since I will be using this mostly for photography it will not affect me at all but i do still appreciate hearing this since it give me reassurance of my reasoning behind buying this cam.
A very solid camera. I’ve since upgraded, but this is now my wife’s main camera and it’s never skipped a beat for either of us. Our house is filled with blown up prints that it’s taken. 👍
I’m with ya 100% . Traded in my Leica Q and street style photography for a new 6D Mark ii and the Canon L 50mm 1.2 Lens and limitless styles of photography. I feel like I have 3 types of cameras all in one now: full frame dslr stills camera; video production camera; and mirrorless live view camera. Great video! Subscribed.
Awesome! That’s exactly how I feel using this camera since December. It’s the most versatile piece of gear I’ve ever owned. I’m currently borrowing a Sony A7III for a review, and while it really is quite a beast, I would never give up my Canon for it. 👍
The Enthusiasm Project yeah, I was close to going with the A7iii since I got enough credit from trading in my Leica...I had the A7ii and used it for a wedding. It performed admirably but Adobe Lightroom didn’t like the Sony files...so I’m back FULL CIRCLE to Canon. I did like the small rangefinder feel of the Leica. So I’m picking up a Canon M6 when I get a few more green in the bank. Glad I stumbled upon your channel while desperately looking for POSITIVE REVIEWS on the 6D mii. I thought I was losing my mind..this is a great camera for what it offers for the price!
I feel your pain, so I’m glad to find someone else who appreciates this camera. I think more people are coming around now that it’s been out for a while- the initial reception last summer was pretty brutal.
Just upgraded to this camera and as a photographer I love it. Picked it up with a 24-105 f/4 USM IS II lens for $600 less than a 5D Mark IV body only. For me it was a no brainer and I will use the video very little. It's a great camera.
Congrats on the camera, Jim! It’s definitely terrific. Still my favorite!
I don't know why so many people hate the 6Dmkii !?! Really ?!
This camera is just amazing and it's the only full frame with a Flip screen!!
The dual pixel af does a great job!
And you have the biggest choice Lens EF!
1080p is very good! If you can see the difference with 4K on TH-cam and on your phone you are maniac !!
The battery life is very good
And only 1400$ on Amazon...
If your not agree go buy the Sony A7 iii 2200$
It’s a wonderful camera. I use mine almost every single day 👍
I have the 6DMKII and BMPCC6K, and prefer the 6DMKII. The video dynamic range is not as good, but if you know how to set exposure, there isn't a big difference, especially with a variable ND. I'm selling my BMPCC6k and getting a Panasonic S1H because that would actually feel like an upgrade over the 6dmkii.
Really? How interesting! I always hear great things about the Blackmagic cameras, but it's good to know the 6D can hold its own against them.
I'm torn between which camera to get for vlogging and some client work. I've finally made my decision, getting this today.
Yes!! I’m importing footage from mine right now, it’s terrific! B&H has a cool bundle for $1300 at the moment too (doesn’t have a lens, bust still a great price).
@@tombuck I'm looking at a bundle for the same price on Amazon right now! Since the price has dropped so much since you released this vid, I don't think it can be beat!
It can’t, it such a terrific camera! Enjoy!
This is the most helpful video for the enthusiasts or beginners who wants to upgrade their camera in a budget.
I’m glad you think so! The 6D II is still a great choice, and the RP is also an interesting budget option.
All Great points!! Mine just came in yesterday and I'm super excited :D
Nice! I hope you really enjoy it! 👍
How long can it record before going to sleep, and how about overheating issues? I used to stick my Sony in the fridge to cool it down faster in between filming LOL
I haven’t had any overheating issues at all, and it can record continuously for 30 minutes (although it does split footage into 4gb files). A non-mirrorless 1080p camera shouldn’t have the heating issues of a mirrorless 4k beast.
Tom, maybe you can help e here. How do i stream a clean HDMI output with the 6D Mark I? I keep getting the focus tracking box
The 6D II doesn’t have clean hdmi, but there are two workarounds:
1. Keep the camera in manual focus (works if you’re not moving much)
2. Use the Canon EOS Webcam Utility app with the camera connected via USB (gives a clean signal with autofocus!)
Thank you for this video . I am also purchased 6d mark 2 and it is best camera in this price category .
It’s definitely a winner! Still my favorite by far...
Really awesome and honest review. Seems everyone I’ve watched on this subject all “need” 4k but don’t have a real reason why. Nice to see someone with an actual realistic point of view. Of course 4k is nice but if someone lacks the fundamentals of videography then it doesn’t matter what resolution it’s in. I’d rather watch an interesting video in 720p over a boring video in 8k. also packing 4k in one of the smaller full frame canon bodies would have probably caused overheating like the mirrorless options out right now.
Thanks Wes! I agree 100%
Even after having the 6D II for a year, my thoughts are still exactly the same. It’s a tremendous camera, and like all Canon’s, VERY reliable. The biggest practical benefit I can currently see to is the ability to crop in when scaling down to 1080, but that’s not something I do very often, so it’s not a priority for me personally.
The Enthusiasm Project I could see that being a thing! I watch TH-cam mainly from mobile and even my MacBook is pre-retina so it honestly doesn’t make a big difference for me at all lol.
Also I feel like I’ve watched 98% of the videos on TH-cam of this camera. Come January or February I will for sure be picking one up. It’s much nicer seeing videos like this of someone talking from experience rather than someone calling it a bad camera because they’re reading specs off of a website. I know I’ll be perfectly happy with what I’ll be getting! I’m glad you’re still enjoying it. Looking forward to doing the same.
Pretty much every video on my channel since last December was made with the 6D II. I’ve traveled all over with it and it’s still my favorite camera I’ve been had.
There are some REALLY good holiday deals on it at the moment too.
This is a very helpful video. THANK YOU
Hey Tom - I love your videos and both channels - unless you have more than 2? I need to upgrade my 6d mark I and 200D for my youtube videos. I don't care about 4K - 1080 is all I need. Should I get 6d mark II (I am very happy with b roll I get from 6d mark I) or RP? Ir should I spend more and get R?
I didn't know I had two channels?! I did change my channel name last month, so maybe that caused some confusion?
But thank you! And to answer your question: I'm literally editing a video right now that explains why I invested in a 2nd EOS R, so that absolutely gets my recommendation! The 6D is still great, but the price difference has become pretty minor between it and the R, and the R is just a much better camera overall.
Ahhh that explains then with the channel! How does the RP compares to the 6d in your experience?
Did you think about the Sony a7sii ?
It's a really wonderful camera. We have one at work that my students use. I think that it's more geared for photography while the A7III has many more video centric features. But they're both great, and the low light performance is ridiculous.
The Enthusiasm Project yea I actually want both cameras
Is the 6d ii IPS video only? Is that ok verses ALL- i. ?
Yes, it is only IPB, which I actually do think caused some issues for me with finer details.
@@tombuck Thanks for the warning on that Tom!
On my 70d the ALL-I looks very good, I also have IPB and tried it once and did not like it, seemed a little fuzzy?
Am I the only one that is just interested in photos and will pretty much never shoot a video. This is a GREAT CAMARA
Same here. I'm a photo guy and rarely shoot videos and from what I've seen of this camera the photo quality looks fantastic.
Good video, nice and informative! thanks :) One quick non related question (if you can answer), what program/devices do you use for the animated hand written stuff? Is it with Illustrator? Anything else or tips in that regard would be appreciated. I love the simplicity :)
Hey Martin! I use Procreate in the iPad for all of the titles. I have a few videos about it that cover the basics 👍
Procreate is probably the best $10 you can spend anywhere.
@@tombuck many thanks!! :)
Thank you for your review. I'm considering buying 6D mark II and I don't need 4K video. However your Sony picture looks way better than when you started shooting with 6D. I wonder if it is solely because of 4K 🤔
There are quite a few factors, and this probably isn’t the best side by side comparison. If you’re looking for a camera in the price range of the 6D, I might recommend the Canon RP. It’ll give you a bit more clarity and sharpness.
@@tombuck Thank you for your reply. Actually I don't really care about video quality as long as video capability is presented. I have exactly the same requirements as in your list except 4K video. So thank you for your review, I'm happy.
Photographers still exist. This camera is great for us. Especially in low light.
Yep, it takes incredible photos. I've got several blown up to pretty big sizes around our house.
Are you able to take a still image while you are filming?
You can, but it feels like there’s a bit of a delay. I havent done it very often though, I usually just switch between video and photo modes.
Finally, a video that speaks the truth! Who truly watches EVERYTHING in 4k?
It’s been a few years since I made this video, and 4K is more common now, but still not the be all end all. I still film in 1080 for the sake of simplicity and then scale it up to 4K for TH-cam.
I've had my 1080 played on a massive screen at an event and it looked great - I was really surprised.
It’s true! I’ve had some projects show at theatres and everything looks perfect. Obviously 4K is even crisper, but 1080 is very usable and super easy to work with.
Thank you. Bout time a great review other than some canon hate. At the end of the day it’s all about the photographer. I think all this technology has made a lot of people lazy.
I saw a video from Matt D'Avella where he said, "The best camera isn't the one you have, it's the one you master." I think there's a ton of truth in that.
The benefits of the technology plateau at a certain point, and after that it's all about the person behind the camera.
Great review 👍🏻
Thank you!
How about the video in ipb which is ive read is bad? I'm looking for my first FF (spell cheap lol). Should I just buy the mark 1 or wait for the eos rp? Thanks
I don’t have any experience with the RP, but it seems like a decent camera for the price. I think a few of its issues can be fixed via firmware updates. I love the 6D II in all regards, so I highly recommend this camera.
Do you know the name of that mic on your thumbnail
It's the rode Videomic Pro Plus with a deadcat wind screen 👍
I just found your channel and I love your videos. You have a new subscriber
Thanks so much Kathrine! I’m glad you’re enjoying my videos and I really appreciate the feedback/support!
Hi, how are you?
Do you know if the 6DII can use an external monitor and usethe monitor of the camera at the same time?
And do you use Magic Lantern on it?
Thanks!
Hi! The lcd does turn off when you connect an external monitor.
And I haven’t used Magic Lantern in this camera yet. It does everything I need it to. 👍
@@tombuck Thank you!
Anyone have a recommendation for use as a 'dashcam'? the dashcam market does not offer what i am looking for.. i want higher quality image while driving and not the blotchy mess where the camera tries filling in data and part of the picture melts together.
Definitely not the 6D. Maybe a GoPro or other action cam?
@@tombuck I have used an action cam, but not the GoPro, it was a cheaper version. I saw someone using a Sony A6400 and it seemed like it was pretty good quality for driving. I just really want a camera for landscape photography as well, and don't want to have to spend money on both a GoPro and a digital camera.
Right now i am eyeing up the Sony a7II, just can't find any videos of it being used for driving.
I appreciate your response!
I just received my 6dii this morning
Congrats!! I hope you have a lot of fun with it!
The main reason on why I love 4k is NOT that I can export 4k. It's about the fact that you can competely re-frame and crop your shots without sacrificing resolution.
Yes- that’s really the biggest benefit.
Very solid video
Much appreciated! The 6D II is still a solid camera if you don't need a 4K workflow.
4K is only interesting to get better 1080p. If you have good 1080p footage, that's enough. I agree that Canon has the right colours and the flip screen is also a huge thing, not only for photo and video, but also for astrophotography.
I'm using Canon 6d mark II + Sigma 35 mm combination, but struggle to get good quality video footage. The picture quality is very good, but when shooting video and exporting at maximum possible quality settings, the footage looks almost like it was taken with a phone.. Also, it's very hard to colour grade the footage, as it becomes quite muddy and unpleasant to the eye and the default colours don't look great either. I've watched a bunch of tutorials on color grading and majority of them are using Sony's slog3 algorithm for shooting. Am I expecting too much from my camera or I'm just doing it wrong?
Hmm, this is interesting. With that lens especially you should be getting some great results. I've had good luck with the default picture profile and the sharpening turned down a little bit.
The footage is 8 bit color with a fairly small bitrate, so it's not the most versatile to edit with, but a good lens and decent lighting SHOULD be able to get you most of the way there.
You just vocalized my entire camera journey from the last 12 months. LoL
Ha, it’s definitely a confusing road sometimes, but overall I find it fun since I’ve always been into gear. A couple moths later and I’m LOVING the 6DII.
Hi Tom, I bought a 4K TV and I was not noticing any different in my hula shows and regular tv shows , now I know why. Thank you I thought it was something wrong with the tv.
Yep, this is the same issue a lot of people have while we’re in this technological transition period.
That’s true !
Indeed 👊
So I notice you have a lot of Aquabats stuff. They recently shot at our studio!
Really?! That is awesome. I’m a bit of a fan...seen them live 23 times.
@@tombuck Holy cow! I had the opportunity to work as an assistant on the shoot but they were 12 hour days during class times.
That's a tough schedule, but what a cool opportunity!!
The only thing that is a not cool not to have is the 120f/s. This would be a tool to have fun.
Definitely agreed. 60fps works well enough though. I'm really surprised the EOS R doesn't have 120.
I wish it had 1080 120p. I will still most likely be getting this somewhat soon.
It’d definitely be a cool feature, but I’ve found that 60 fps is more than usable, so it’s definitely not a dealbreaker in my book.
0:36 AMEN! I shoot my music videos in 1080p with an entry cheap Canon 700D and I can tell from my youtube analytics 95% of my viewers are watching from mobile screens so in a few words FK 4K! p.s Great content, keep up the good work!
Thanks so much! Even in 2020, 4K is great, but it’s not the be-all end-all. 👍
I have made a simiar list of checkboxes and had reached the same conclusion. I am truly fascinated of how much heat the camera has got. If people are so offended by it's very existence there so no need for them to buy it.
I agree 100%. It’s been truly an awesome camera for both stills and video.
I gave a thumbs up just for the Aquabats posters.
I’ll take it! 👍
I'm satisfied with my 6d2 so far. There is no perfect camera in this world. It's really good enough and outstanding performer. Invest in lenses with the extra budget.
Yep, a good lens is really where the difference lies. 💡
well i want a good camera that's full frame one that takes great pictures and video. i was told to buy this camera so i want to know a lot about this camera. i want to buy the tamron 24-70 and the tamron 35-150. you said it's only good for taking pictures and not for shooting video. well please tell me a good full frame camera please so i can check it out.
Have had mine since release, it's a killer cam.😉
Ultra reliable and delivers great results!
The lack of 4k is not a real problem.
But the 1080p quality is just too soft compared to the 5D IV, shooting people with a shallow depth-of-field looks acceptable, but the rest is just too soft.
I’ve been happy with the results so far. Of course the lens makes a HUGE difference in final quality.
I wish it was. Of course the lens does contribute to the look of the image and the colours, AF are great as always, but overall it is just too damn soft (almost the same as the 5D Mark III from 2012) but at least it is not always unflattering.
But it is just annoying, considering the higher-priced 5D IV is still sticking to a fixed touchscreen (making the 6D II more attractive).
The EOS M50 already has somewhat improved 1080p quality with a newer processor.
So there is some hope, that if Canon comes out with a cheaper cousin to the EOS R, it will squeeze out better quality from a similar 26MP sensor.
They have the basics right, they are just slow to getting there.
@@tombuck Sadly it's not the lens but the old compression format and the low bitrate. The 1080p from the 6d mark II looks almost like 720p from the a7r II
use L lenses and increase the sharpness a tad on the video profile settings
Can’t believe I missed this from two months ago! I do think the R is a very interesting camera, and I can’t wait to see where they take the lineup. It has ALMOST everything I’d want.
Canon 6d Mark II can shoot in 4K
In time lapse mode
Yes it can, which is a super handy feature since I often like to crop in on time lapses.
Unfortunately the 6Dii does not have 2 card slots. And unfortunately the 5Div doesn't have the articulating LCD viewing screen. So for those 2 reasons, I have to use both cameras. But in terms of all the other still frame features I find the 6Dii pretty much interchangeable with the 5Div. Using 2 of these cameras gives me everything that I need.
Those are two pretty big features for each camera to be missing. Although, having two cameras is super useful.
Does anyone know if you can see through the view finder while using an HDMI out on the Canon 6D Mark II.? (Currenty I have a 700D and you can’t see through the view finder while using a HDMI out. )
Also does this fill the 16:9 aspect ratio on the screen so it does not show bars at the side like it does with my 700d
The viewfinder is blacked out anytime the screen is on, and the screen is black when there’s an hdmi output happening.
@@tombuck Thanks for your reply :)
Even when you watch a 4k clip @ 1080p it still looks way better! hence why i sold my canon 70d for a sony a6300 the Image quality is miiiiles better and the autofocus is actually better! only downside is the articulating screen... but i'd take better IQ all day ... cheers !
4K at 1080 is definitely sharper, but I’ve found a really good lens on a dale at 1080 can get darn close. Love the Sony cameras, but definitely wish they had the same types of screen as Canon!
Canon's Dual Pixel AF is apparently still the best. I thought the autofocus in Sony was better until I watched this video. th-cam.com/video/9CM5S8QwDTY/w-d-xo.html
DPAF is very tough to beat. It’s definitely a huge selling point for me.
500 sub here! Great explanation Ive been looking at this camera for my channel.
Woo! Thanks Alex!
The 6D II has quickly become my favorite camera for both stills and video. I HIGHLY recommend it.
09/29/2020 Thank you for this beneficial information.
You're most welcome
But unfortunately the IPB quality is terrible. Compared to any All-I film, the quality is noticeably inferior. I love this camera but video is useless to me. I've been trying Cinematic Profile lately because I need to record something and I have 2 choices. Sell 6Dmk2, and buy e.g. R or 5Dmk2 or 3 and try Magic Lantern to get 4K.
When u switched to canon footage, i see more details in ur face than u were in rx100v. Skin color looks more natural too. But, ur white balance keeps shifting all throughout lol. Re 4k, yeah it is overrated at this point. Probably in the next 5 yrs it should be viable to evrryone but for now it is much hyped
Ha, yeah the white balance was funky because of the LEDs in the background (they’re just cheapies from Amazon).
Now that I have had the camera for a few months, I’ve got the settings pretty dialed in and I love it!
And using a 1080 workflow is MUCH simpler than 4K was (even though I do think 4K looks great).
Very nice video~~
Thanks so much!
1 dx mark ii does all your checklist.
XIV Films New Zealand flip screen?
2 years later, your views?
It's still a great camera, but I do think that the EOS R is better overall, and now that the price has come down, it's tough not to recommend. The 6D II seems to sell between $1300 and $1400 right now, whereas the R can be found for $1600 to $1700. I think it's totally worth the extra money, especially for video.
That being said, the 6D is still a great camera, and is built like an absolute tank. The reliability is excellent!
The Enthusiasm Project: thank you for your reply.
I’m currently running a 60D with Ef 24-70f/4 and ef70-200 f/2.8 II and nifty fifty.
Money is tight (like it is always for majority of us). Plus, it’s more expensive to buy it in India. Saving to buy 6D II. I never do video. And coming from 9 point autofocus on 60D with only Center cross point, I think everything more is bonus. I’m still not convinced about EOS R and using an adapter to use my existing lens (battery life is a an issue.) 2 batteries of 60D has lasted me 15 days of vacation with around 4000 shots.
Even 760 looks good on youtube the thing about 4k people want things shot in 4k even those they don't understand what you're saying
Ha, this is all very true.
Aside from the flippy screen sorry
Haha, that’s a big one! It’s a small detail, but really important. The price tag of the 1D is a bit out of my range too. The 6D’s screen has been a lifesaver on many occasions.
All of you guys doing video with photo cameras, have you considered ACTUAL VIDEO CAMERAS instead ?
I think it depends on the purpose. For legit filmmakers/documentarians it absolutely makes sense, but for someone who wants great quality video, a more affordable option that lets you swap out lenses is pretty tough to beat. 👍
I think it’s more camera makers that are the problem. I for one would like to see then make cameras for photography only. Imagine where that sensor tech could be if they weren’t so focused on video tech.
@@Dustyphoto915 I have looked at raw files from Hasselblad and Phase one, those are lightyears from my 6D2 but whe I look back at my Sigma SD10 pixel peeping I find again that crispness, like no AA filter. YES, I think that there should be separate still only photography camera and video cameras. Maybe share some lenses, but even then, for video and photo you do not need the same lenses, where in video you do not want focus breathing, while for photo colours and chromatic aberrations and bokeh texture and quality are important. Video is better with anamorphic, blue flares etc. While I need different things in photo. The brain for photo is different from the brain for video. To do good dolly video you need complex rigs, while photo is as simple as admiring the beauty of a moment and just taking it as a picture to make a memory stronger. The device is less important than the fact, the moment, the thinking, the happiness you get the shiver, the expectation, the experiment, the failures, the urge to try again, LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL.
4k doesn’t mean anything if dynamic range and color science is garbage
I don't care about 4k but i care about 120fps....i dob't enjoy my 6d mark ii on videos...i enjoy it on pictures but not on lowlight for sure...i hate it on lowlight but it works well on good lighting environment
I’ve had good luck in low light, but that’s also using mostly prime lenses with wide apertures.
@@tombuck i have a sigma 35 1.4 it's not too good in lowlight...i have more success on a 85mm 1.8...
Interesting, hmmm. I’m working on a review for the Sigma 24 1.4, which I love. I had to use the usb dock to adjust the focus a bit, but now I don’t like taking it off my camera.
@@tombuck i really want a 24 1.4 sigma cause i like wide angle shots...but i really wanna try 85 1.4 sigma...i already have 35...all i want is a sigma 35,50, and 85 1.4 and i'll be happy❤
That would be a beautiful trio of lenses!
i don't care about no 4k i like my full 1080p i just want a camera that takes great pictures and i can shoot video when i want to. i need good auto focus flippy screens good in low light and can change lens when i can. i want to buy me a full frame camera and call it a day
The 6D II is great for video, but if your budget allows it, the EOS R is significantly better for only a few hundred more. 👍
@@tombuck which one the canon eos r or the canon rp
The R if you have the budget for it.
@@tombuck how much that camera cost
the canon eos R cost 1600 dollars if i buy that it won't be right now but i will eventually get that camera
6d loses when it comes to making crisp vertical videos for Instagram. Cropping HD isn't nice.
Every tv support 4k
So...I guess it's safe to say you bought this for the FLIPPY SCREEN...
A full frame camera with good autofocus and a floppy screen in 2017? Heck yes!
You look like Bardleycooper
I have a 1080p Epson video projector with a picture of 2.4 meter wide and I sit 3,5 meters away, the detail, the contrast, the sense of vastness of void, the hair count, the golden hour all is absolutely stunning. 4K is just marketing, the only purpose is to film higher def to supersample back to 1080p. There is nothing uglier than an oversharp over saturated 4K image. Supermarket 4k makes me throw up.