Owen was red hot as the black hart & coulve carried on that character for a long time given the chance. A brilliant worker his feud with shamrock was epic
There are rumors out there that say that Austin prevented anything from materializing as far as a push for Owen due to what happened during their Summerslam match. Sadly if that's true, this may have been a factor that led to his death because I don't think they put him through the Blue Blazer gimmick and suggest the stunt that killed him if he was a main eventer or upper midcarder like he could have been.
@@walker1984 if so thats ultra-effed up. One things for certain & thats that the switch up from the black hart & overall attitude era vibe that he had goin on, to the dated and boring bblazer was very odd, both at the time & even moreso with retrospect.
I thought this same thing as I was listening to this video lmao! Honestly one of the top wrestlers in the world at the time wasted and never given the opportunity to show he deserved it, despite everyone knowing how much talent he had in ring AND he talked a mean game too
This was when Owen Hart should’ve had a short WWF title reign after getting revenge on Shawn, then Owen can drop it back to Shawn so Shawn can still drop it to Austin at Mania.
@@DLRX tbf, after the Taker - Michaels Casket match it wouldn't really have worked anyway, due to Michaels Injury. Iirc he didn't really compete after that til VS Austin.
@@undertakernumberone1 Imagine if there was no Taker vs Michaels match but a Owen vs Michaels match. Michaels won't get the injury, Owen wins the title. They have a few back and forth for a few months where Michaels will win the title back and he will have the match with Austin. One can only dream what could've happened.
I hate how protected Shawn Micheals and Triple H have been. There have been many wrestlers, not just Owen Hart, who could have had great runs in the WWF if not for those two.
Basically, backstage politics and HBK's ego prevented Owen winning the title and eventually led to him being put back into the Blue Blazer gimmick. The rest, as they say, is history! I fully believe Owen should have won the title on Raw and then dropped it back to HBK at the Rumble due to interference from Triple H. Still could have had Stone Cold v HBK at Mania but it would have given the company a chance to see how Owen handled being top dog, even if it was for a short while. Then Owen should have beaten Triple H at Mania, then turned heel on the following Raw by attacking the newly crowned champion Stone Cold! Owen not being pushed to main event level and being lumbered with a gimmick that eventually led to his death is the biggest travesty in WWF/WWE history!!!
Yeap. Unfortunately these were Shawns demon years. Man if only he saw the amount of business they could have made. Owen could have come at them like vengeance against the screw-job, maybe even form a anti DX team. Lotsa money and stories to be told.
@@cornyhole Shawn Michaels is sometimes referred to as the Heart Break Kid (HBK)...since he 'screwed' Bret (Hart) in Montreal, he shouldve also had a story with Owen (Hart) that involved Shawn winning Again...so he could change his nickname from "Heartbreak" to "Hart-Break"...
If Owen Hart was still alive, I think his WWE career in The Ruthless Aggression Era would've saved his career. Imagine the rivalries between Angle, Guerrero, Edge, Lesnar, etc.
Either that or they would have frustrated him so much he would have retired when his contract was up in 2002. That was just when TNA was starting up and he was great friends with Jeff Jarrett so maybe he would have showed up there and gave us some cool moments.
Talk about a brutal burial. WWE could have at least given Owen a long reign with the European title and Owen could have made that belt prestigious. The company is just petty as sin!
They stifled Owen because he refused to do more adult like storylines due to his moral values. Wonder how far he would of went if that wasn't the case.
I think you've got to be able to separate truth and fiction in showbiz. I liked Owen, he's one of my favorites. Still if his moral compass was affecting my $ I wouldn't main event him either. It's a wrestling program not an after school special. Grow up and pretend to be a character lol. Seriously it's not like the Undertaker really burned his family alive...
Owen always been my favorite since a kid! I always picked his character on the first "Monday Night Raw" Game on Sega genesis. I was hurt when he passed! Rest Up Owen! 😇
With the benefit (or burden) of hindsight, seeing how the WWE completely screwed over Owen is endlessly frustrating. He should have been a champion, not a laughingstock or fed to Vince's pets du jour. And knowing how little time he had makes that waste of talent & charisma even more painful. 🖤
There would’ve been some amazing matchups for Owen Hart right around the corner: Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio....all of those matchups would’ve been amazing. Ring work went way up in the WWF around 2000. Owen’s career would’ve went to the next level.
You don't know what you're talking about. Owen threatened to leave just like his family and Vince did all he could to prevent it and kept him under contract.
@@Marc_Masters obviously. why would he stay when wcw wanted him as they hired Bulldog and Neidhart. They had no clue what to do with Bret. Owen there would have meant a new hart Foundation.
Owen's WWE run was at a time when I didn't watch wrestling and he was dead by the time I came back. Had no idea what a legend he was and how many people he inspired.
Owen was by far the best of the Harts. When you talk about a total package, Owen had "it". The Black Hart gimmick should've been a gold mine. Imagine if Owen and Austin could've reignited their rivalry with the World title on the line. I think Owen was ultimately held back cause he wouldn't do sleezy story lines or put his family 2nd to the business. R.I.P. King of Harts.
@@faz6877 Owen's attack on Shamrock when he joined the Nation hasn't been explained. It's gonna remain a mystery for a lifetime, I understand owen was upset to losing to Triple H not sure what his attack on Shamrock was about.
CaptainN209 thats true shawn michaels at this time looked like Jean Claude van dame and Triple h always looked like owen wilson back then when he had the long hair.
I remember my Father once took me to a wrestling event where Owen was on the ticket. We took many pictures that night, but once they were developed, looking through them, was one picture of Owen standing on the 2nd turnbuckle LITERALLY STARING AT OUR CAMERA POSING FOR US!! Hands down one of the most under rated wrestlers of all time. Owen could've worn Hulk's boots and carried the title. He would've done that company absolute justice. Real fuckin sad. A real missed opportunity. Rest in Peace Owen.
Owen was light years ahead of hhh in every metric, including on the mic, the money that could have been made for the company if they'd capitalized on the BlackHart gimmick...half the roster would have made the company more money than hhh but nothing was hotter than this angle when it first emerged.
Yeah I never understood Triple H. I mean what did he have? His mic skills were never great. He was never a top tier performer in the ring. Why the push? It seems like he was good with the politics and that was about it.
Great video. I think sadly Owen had a number of things against him. 1) Vince's ego. Owen was probably a way for McMahon to send a message to Bret. 2) Stone Cold refusing to work with Owen after the botched piledriver. (This I cannot fault Austin for, because Austin came so close to being paralyzed if that was me, yeah, I'd refuse to work with the guy that nearly crippled me too.) Sadly, there was no way round this. 3) HBK and HHH. Nuff said.
I know it seems like that might be the case, and there is always little things that you could point out that ended up being the deal breaker. However, in reality, nothing small like that causes a person's career to derail. Imagine if somebody called the Rock a nugget as he was developing into the super star that he would become. Do you think it would have derailed him? If Owen was meant to be a top guy he would have been. As good as he was in the ring, there was a lot of guys that were good in the ring in that era, and it resulted in Owen being a solid midcarder, and that's just the way it was.
Great vid, covering all the points that showed he was just repeatedly let down. I actually created a thread on WFigs forum with this very topic in mind but more so that DX making fun of him caused him not to be taken seriously, along with management wasting him quickly after he came back. The potential to make him a top tier player was immense. Such a shame
Thank you for doing this video. I always thought the "Black Heart" character was abandoned too quickly, as I had been a fan of Owen Hart and liked that he seemed to be getting a main event push. The story made sense and had that touch of reality that enhanced the story. I thought they would push the Owen-Michaels feud further and I was looking forward to it. As to your explanation as to their motive and keeping the Michaels-Austin feud hot for Wrestlemania; this was often the problem with WWF booking. They were so focused on pay per views and it gave their story arcs a sense of being contrived and also predictable. When a hot angle grew organically, they wouldn't go with it, if it got in the way of their plans to have the pay per view main events that drew the most money. Perhaps it did earn them money, but it often weakened the product in the months leading up to Wrestlemania because it got so predictable and dull. I personally would rather have seen an Owen-Michaels feud and Wrestlemania main event, even if it meant Austin would be involved with other angles.
I was so excited during this time, I still loose sleep at night (not really) thinking about Owen Hart and his failed push. I always loved Owen and always wanted him to get a bit title push.
I remember the frustration at the time with this, I’m now inclined (rightly or wrongly) to point towards Vince’s ego, the trigger could have been pulled and I can see no reason why it wasn’t other than Vince
HHH's power in the company is rather impressive. The guy refused to let anyone get over before he officially became the boss' son-in-law. Sure, good Owen Hart wasn't the best, but they could have given him some kind of push. He earned it.
I remember looking forward to watching raw every week for a short period just to see what the black hart was going to do next. Everytime Shawn was in the ring there was a buzz around the arena, fans excited to see Owen run in and attack. But sadly Shawn and HHH had far too push backstage power and Owen was never going to get that strong run. Such a shame. RIP Owen
I don't think a program between Stone Cold and Owen Hart would've taken place after Wrestlemania 14, even if they tried to give Owen a push at that time. Stone Cold still had heat with Owen after the Summerslam 1997 incident and says that Owen never apologized for that night. Let's not forget, personal heat is what caused Stone Cold to nix a feud with Jeff Jarrett around 1997/1998.
@@hollykost155 okay Jim cornette I'm just saying Daniel Bryan Omega Chris Jericho remind me of Owen Hart I'm just saying that also Adam hangman page reminds me of Barry Windham okay Jim cornette Junior watch 1970s wrestling from Memphis Tennessee and NWA wrestling from the 1980s
The Black Hart was perfect for Owen. An excellent transition away from his brothers shadow that had credibility and set him apart from the rest of the Hart foundation. Certainly better than The Rocket and undoubtedly better than that Blue Blazer nonsense.
I remember when Owen passed that Triple H cried on the camera talking about losing his friend and it seemed from that interview they were close. Were they not really close? Seems weird he would lobby hard not to lose to Owen or is this just an example of how much Triple H hated to lose.
I think Triple H was stuck with HBK and knew where his bread was buttered. N the Best Stars of The 90s Triple H said Owen hadn't even scratched the surface
Looking back, I disliked how dirty they did Owen after Bret, Jim, and Davey Boy left and after Brian Pillman passed away. But I guess that's what happens when WWE and certain wrestlers don't see eye to eye. WWE takes it out on the closest loved one.
@Manek Iridius U sure got triggered by it though. I really admired your attempt 2 B SNARKY even though it was a failure. Keep plugging away & mayB some day you'll shake off that loser's curse.
Amazing work and you got a sub from me, and it is just sad what could have been with Owen Hart. I mean he was just hot at the time and WWE dropping the ball on him. Till this day i still felt WWE wasted Owen Hart badly and don't get me started on the incident. Keep up the awesome work.
Shawn still would’ve left in 1998. He cleared the casket. He may have had a back injury but it wasn’t from hitting the casket. He knew Vince would pay him to stay home rather than go to WCW.
I do agree this was a big missed opportunity on the WWE’s part. I remember watching it as it happened and being let down by how they handled this feud.
As a heel 94 to 96 Owen was one of my most hated and between being the only Hart that stayed and his passing he was one of my favorites. Literally from top two heels to top two faces. IMO
Exactly...I'll be honest, I didn't care much for him. Looking back, he was pretty good in the ring and I did really like the Brett Owen feud back in the day though. They had a great title match that I really got into.
Why does no one bring up that Vince went back on a 20 million dollar multi year deal. Bret was always going to stay with the WWF and Vince, I don't blame him for being pissed and then signing with WCW. Saying that, I always loved Owen too. He was a great heal along with Jim Cornette
I always bring that up. Barely a year into the deal. He kept Bret from being the third man with that contract and ran Bret like a mule to build Stone Cold and Shawn up during that year (people don’t talk about Shawn’s first title run not being so great, but it wasn’t) and helping reestablish Undertaker as a world title guy. Then less than a month after the belt goes on Bret Vince tells him he can’t honor the contract. Vince was planning it for awhile, and i believe Bret somewhere inside saw it coming, if the Montreal Incident isn’t a flat out work it was a worked shoot, with maybe neither party acknowledging that they had both seen it coming. Something about the timing of Wrestling With Shadows makes me think Bret knew not to trust Vince once that long term contract was signed.
I am one of those people, who always preferred Owen over Bret. He and Pillman should've been Austins main antagonists in the attitude era (besides Vince obviously)
Owen Pillman and Bret. For Vince to say Bret had no place in the attitude era is nonsense, his feud with Austin was fantastic. Austin was best friends with Pillman. Pillman’s death was the first domino in what culminates in Bret’s wcw run and Owen’s death.
The man had a WWF title shot in the early against Bret in 94 I feel like he should of gotten it by that year and hold it for at least up into 95 then lose it back to Bret that year
I think Vince was going to push Owen as HBK’s next feud but DX caught on huge and he went that direction. Financially it definitely would seem to have been the right move.
Owen being in the Nation was The Rock's idea. He said in the past that Owen & Bret looked out for him when HBK & Triple H were giving him hell backstage
Lmfao! I forgot about that " Owen 3:16 - I just broke your neck " 😂😂😂. But the injury was not funny at all , but at this Time Austin had recovered as best he could for the most part, making the shirt funny as hell
Hell yes, it's time for the blackheart! Even if Owen wasn't the strongest on the mic having shawn drop the title to him could have restored a lot of faith, if only for a bit on the road to austin getting the title. Such a missed opportunity :/
I also wonder if maybe Owen was supposed to be the higher power? It sounds crazy but maybe the blue blazer thing was a swerve only to bring Owen up as a threat.
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The Black Hart was main event material.
You're only saying that because he died. Like how people say Tupac and Biggie are the greatest rappers because they died.
@@dr.loomis4221 PAC is! Even on 1995 everyone knew! F*ck biggie he’s whack
@@dr.loomis4221 I've always liked Owen more than Bret. Owen could have easily been the main event, especially going against DX.
@@dr.loomis4221 He was and they were you buffoon
@@Monchi2006 You're only regurgitating what you've heard other people say.
Owen was red hot as the black hart & coulve carried on that character for a long time given the chance. A brilliant worker his feud with shamrock was epic
There are rumors out there that say that Austin prevented anything from materializing as far as a push for Owen due to what happened during their Summerslam match. Sadly if that's true, this may have been a factor that led to his death because I don't think they put him through the Blue Blazer gimmick and suggest the stunt that killed him if he was a main eventer or upper midcarder like he could have been.
@@walker1984 if so thats ultra-effed up. One things for certain & thats that the switch up from the black hart & overall attitude era vibe that he had goin on, to the dated and boring bblazer was very odd, both at the time & even moreso with retrospect.
@Sub for Trump 2020 that isn't funny
@Sub for Trump 2020 it's a special type of "person" to joke about an actual man who died in the ring. You sir are the lowest of lows.
The Owen / Shamrock feud was as far a good script but they buried it....
Watching Owens character in the 90s was like a spotlight on the evolution of wrestling characters into multiple different eras.
Backstage politics have killed so many good storylines that we all could of enjoyed.
Statement of the century!!!!
Could you imagine if Owen and Austin fighting for the title after Maina 14? Better yet, put them in a tag team to feud with DX first to slow build.
I thought this same thing as I was listening to this video lmao! Honestly one of the top wrestlers in the world at the time wasted and never given the opportunity to show he deserved it, despite everyone knowing how much talent he had in ring AND he talked a mean game too
This was when Owen Hart should’ve had a short WWF title reign after getting revenge on Shawn, then Owen can drop it back to Shawn so Shawn can still drop it to Austin at Mania.
Yes it would've been great but we all know Michaels would not have allowed this.
@@DLRX tbf, after the Taker - Michaels Casket match it wouldn't really have worked anyway, due to Michaels Injury. Iirc he didn't really compete after that til VS Austin.
Then smarks would complain he was buried
@@undertakernumberone1 Imagine if there was no Taker vs Michaels match but a Owen vs Michaels match. Michaels won't get the injury, Owen wins the title. They have a few back and forth for a few months where Michaels will win the title back and he will have the match with Austin. One can only dream what could've happened.
@@ryuno2097 Considering that Taker VS Michaels had been a thing even before that, i doubt they'd have put Owen VS Michaels at the RR
I hate how protected Shawn Micheals and Triple H have been. There have been many wrestlers, not just Owen Hart, who could have had great runs in the WWF if not for those two.
@Samoa Monroe That's the only explanation. No sarcasm. I mean it.
Welcome to the cliq
Well triple H was protected by Steph, and HBK was protected by HHH.
@Samoa Monroe really? You think?
Honestly think michaels was suppose to drop the title to Owen at the rumble, and then we get Owen vs Austin at wrestlemania 14
Basically, backstage politics and HBK's ego prevented Owen winning the title and eventually led to him being put back into the Blue Blazer gimmick. The rest, as they say, is history! I fully believe Owen should have won the title on Raw and then dropped it back to HBK at the Rumble due to interference from Triple H. Still could have had Stone Cold v HBK at Mania but it would have given the company a chance to see how Owen handled being top dog, even if it was for a short while. Then Owen should have beaten Triple H at Mania, then turned heel on the following Raw by attacking the newly crowned champion Stone Cold! Owen not being pushed to main event level and being lumbered with a gimmick that eventually led to his death is the biggest travesty in WWF/WWE history!!!
But Austin refused to work with Owen post Survivor Series 1997.
Yeap. Unfortunately these were Shawns demon years. Man if only he saw the amount of business they could have made. Owen could have come at them like vengeance against the screw-job, maybe even form a anti DX team. Lotsa money and stories to be told.
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shame, if Shawn Michaels actually pursued the rivalry with Owen, he couldve developed a 'new' nickname: the Hart-Break Kid xD
Damn good point! What a missed opportunity!
I dont get it....
@@cornyhole Shawn Michaels is sometimes referred to as the Heart Break Kid (HBK)...since he 'screwed' Bret (Hart) in Montreal, he shouldve also had a story with Owen (Hart) that involved Shawn winning Again...so he could change his nickname from "Heartbreak" to "Hart-Break"...
@@rtyuik7 I shouldve understood that lol thanks
Now that is absolutely genius. WWE needs to hire you!
“I AM NOT A NUGGET! I’M A WINNER, A SOUL SURVIVOR, WOOO!”
Yet,
he called himself a "nugget", @ 9:03
Go figure.
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"i'm a BLACK HEART, DAMMIT!"
"LOOK AT HOW DAMN BIG MY NOSE IS"
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If Owen Hart was still alive, I think his WWE career in The Ruthless Aggression Era would've saved his career. Imagine the rivalries between Angle, Guerrero, Edge, Lesnar, etc.
Those are matches I would have paid to see.
Either that or they would have frustrated him so much he would have retired when his contract was up in 2002. That was just when TNA was starting up and he was great friends with Jeff Jarrett so maybe he would have showed up there and gave us some cool moments.
He was gonna retire to spend more time with his family, him staying after the attitude era was very unlikely.
@@DarKKnightt07 he was gonna be a firefighter iirc
Talk about a brutal burial. WWE could have at least given Owen a long reign with the European title and Owen could have made that belt prestigious. The company is just petty as sin!
The European & Intercontinental titles were where it was at. But he had enough runs with them. It was time 4 the World Title
They stifled Owen because he refused to do more adult like storylines due to his moral values. Wonder how far he would of went if that wasn't the case.
While I don’t agree with his family values I respect him for sticking to his values. Integrity is important
Great on him:
Keep your dignity, and self respect;
and remain true to your God and family.
That’s why they painted him as a black supremacist.
I think you've got to be able to separate truth and fiction in showbiz. I liked Owen, he's one of my favorites. Still if his moral compass was affecting my $ I wouldn't main event him either. It's a wrestling program not an after school special. Grow up and pretend to be a character lol. Seriously it's not like the Undertaker really burned his family alive...
@@GibDozer1 great point!
Owen always been my favorite since a kid! I always picked his character on the first "Monday Night Raw" Game on Sega genesis. I was hurt when he passed! Rest Up Owen! 😇
Same here
With the benefit (or burden) of hindsight, seeing how the WWE completely screwed over Owen is endlessly frustrating. He should have been a champion, not a laughingstock or fed to Vince's pets du jour. And knowing how little time he had makes that waste of talent & charisma even more painful. 🖤
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There would’ve been some amazing matchups for Owen Hart right around the corner: Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio....all of those matchups would’ve been amazing. Ring work went way up in the WWF around 2000. Owen’s career would’ve went to the next level.
Vince just wanted Owen to quit and since he didn’t Vince made his life a living hell and drop the ball is a understatement really
Bret pleaded Vince to release Owen and he refused
You don't know what you're talking about. Owen threatened to leave just like his family and Vince did all he could to prevent it and kept him under contract.
@@rockajabroni5975 is that true
@@Marc_Masters obviously. why would he stay when wcw wanted him as they hired Bulldog and Neidhart. They had no clue what to do with Bret. Owen there would have meant a new hart Foundation.
@@Marc_Masters Its in Brets book
Owen's WWE run was at a time when I didn't watch wrestling and he was dead by the time I came back.
Had no idea what a legend he was and how many people he inspired.
Who did he inspire?
@@lordgonzo6611 Chris Jerico I think, it was mentioned on Dark Side Of The Ring.
Don't quote me on that, I could be misremembering.
@@lordgonzo6611 Here's the link th-cam.com/video/8A7iFm93g2w/w-d-xo.html
@Samuel Giam You are right, I was questioning myself and went off to have a read. I never knew KO named his son and wrestling self after Hart.
Owen Hart what a wrestler, definitely should have been heavyweight champion definitely enough is enough
He was they just not counting it for whatever reason.
Bold One he would have a resurgence with the likes of Jericho, Benoit, Eddie and I would have enjoyed him facing Kurt Angle
@Tony Black not really. Shawn Michaels was smaller, despite however they were trying to bill Shawn. 6 ft. 1, my ass. 😂
@Tony Black size doesnt matter
@Tony Black see shawn micheals bret hart they too were champions and they were big draws
Owen was by far the best of the Harts. When you talk about a total package, Owen had "it". The Black Hart gimmick should've been a gold mine. Imagine if Owen and Austin could've reignited their rivalry with the World title on the line. I think Owen was ultimately held back cause he wouldn't do sleezy story lines or put his family 2nd to the business. R.I.P. King of Harts.
@Herp Derp Agree, Don't think Austin would have been down with working another program with Owen. Sounds like there was plenty of animosity back then.
@@faz6877 Owen's attack on Shamrock when he joined the Nation hasn't been explained. It's gonna remain a mystery for a lifetime, I understand owen was upset to losing to Triple H not sure what his attack on Shamrock was about.
@@faz6877 I think it's something that could of been worked out over time & especially when it comes down 2 business
Owen looked like Johnny from Cobra Kia
Chris Jericho said that on Dark Side of The Ring on the Owen episode
Broken Teeth Album Reviews lol that’s funny. I went and watched it after you said that
I love that show
Hope they make more seasons
CaptainN209 thats true shawn michaels at this time looked like Jean Claude van dame and Triple h always looked like owen wilson back then when he had the long hair.
I remember my Father once took me to a wrestling event where Owen was on the ticket. We took many pictures that night, but once they were developed, looking through them, was one picture of Owen standing on the 2nd turnbuckle LITERALLY STARING AT OUR CAMERA POSING FOR US!! Hands down one of the most under rated wrestlers of all time. Owen could've worn Hulk's boots and carried the title. He would've done that company absolute justice. Real fuckin sad. A real missed opportunity. Rest in Peace Owen.
Owen Hart is still one of my favorites to this day. Owen Hart vs Bret Hart steel cage match is great til this day.
They did give Owen the championship... in a video game. They really fu@#$% up with him. He was pure talent, and a class act.
If only Owen had jumped to wcw as well.
Vince didn't let him
He'd probably still be alive...
Owen had a couple wcw matches but who knows what Vince was thinking at that time
They would've dropped the ball with him too.
@@floyd2386 ...I'm pretty sure in dropping the ball w/ his career outweigh Owen getting dropped to his death in WWF in the long run though...
Owen was light years ahead of hhh in every metric, including on the mic, the money that could have been made for the company if they'd capitalized on the BlackHart gimmick...half the roster would have made the company more money than hhh but nothing was hotter than this angle when it first emerged.
they really showed a segment of them playing strip poker in the ring .. WHAT?
@@alexsamain812Yep.
Yeah I never understood Triple H. I mean what did he have? His mic skills were never great. He was never a top tier performer in the ring. Why the push? It seems like he was good with the politics and that was about it.
Perhaps HHH screwed Stephanie so good that Vince achieved orgasm.
In an alternate universe, Owen wasn't sacrificed and became a mega star. Imagine the absolute glory.
It’s so sad how the WWF/WWE gave the Hart family so much, but at the same time took a lot from them.
Never enough of Owen Hart!
I thought black Owen Hart was when he was in the nation. Lol
😄😄😄
I wonder if Austin hindered Owens rise. Not just due to their heat but also Austin may not have wanted another anti authority guy in the main event.
I think that this is part of it too.
I wouldn't doubt it
Can’t stand Dx. So many years great talent was wasted due to people throwing there weight around back stage
DX was fine for what it was in the late 90s, but the last 20 years of old HBK & HHH trying to act juvenile is cringeworthy.
@@faz6877 It was ironic that they played the 'cool outlaws' that were actually stuck up jerks who cried to the boss when they didnt get their way
i thought they dropped the ball on this they could have made owen a superstar
No forget the black heart angle We can have two stone cold Steve Austin’s let’s go with the blue blazer. Vince mcmahon mentality
Aw man, I so wish he was still around...
U & me both
He could’ve been a second stone cold Steve Austin. With the black heart gimmick.
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Great video. I think sadly Owen had a number of things against him.
1) Vince's ego. Owen was probably a way for McMahon to send a message to Bret.
2) Stone Cold refusing to work with Owen after the botched piledriver. (This I cannot fault Austin for, because Austin came so close to being paralyzed if that was me, yeah, I'd refuse to work with the guy that nearly crippled me too.) Sadly, there was no way round this.
3) HBK and HHH. Nuff said.
This was by far my fave Owen gimmick
That one word "Nugget" was enough to derail whatever momentum he had.
Little nugget even.
It was damn awesome & DEAD-ON.
Yep.
Even @9:03,
when he called himself a "nugget".
WWE writers. SMH
Ya man, I remember that being when the push ended
I know it seems like that might be the case, and there is always little things that you could point out that ended up being the deal breaker. However, in reality, nothing small like that causes a person's career to derail. Imagine if somebody called the Rock a nugget as he was developing into the super star that he would become. Do you think it would have derailed him? If Owen was meant to be a top guy he would have been. As good as he was in the ring, there was a lot of guys that were good in the ring in that era, and it resulted in Owen being a solid midcarder, and that's just the way it was.
Great vid, covering all the points that showed he was just repeatedly let down. I actually created a thread on WFigs forum with this very topic in mind but more so that DX making fun of him caused him not to be taken seriously, along with management wasting him quickly after he came back. The potential to make him a top tier player was immense. Such a shame
Thank you for doing this video. I always thought the "Black Heart" character was abandoned too quickly, as I had been a fan of Owen Hart and liked that he seemed to be getting a main event push. The story made sense and had that touch of reality that enhanced the story. I thought they would push the Owen-Michaels feud further and I was looking forward to it. As to your explanation as to their motive and keeping the Michaels-Austin feud hot for Wrestlemania; this was often the problem with WWF booking. They were so focused on pay per views and it gave their story arcs a sense of being contrived and also predictable. When a hot angle grew organically, they wouldn't go with it, if it got in the way of their plans to have the pay per view main events that drew the most money. Perhaps it did earn them money, but it often weakened the product in the months leading up to Wrestlemania because it got so predictable and dull. I personally would rather have seen an Owen-Michaels feud and Wrestlemania main event, even if it meant Austin would be involved with other angles.
I was so excited during this time, I still loose sleep at night (not really) thinking about Owen Hart and his failed push. I always loved Owen and always wanted him to get a bit title push.
When DX were playing poker, the Head Bangers were scheduled for a match. Shawn hit one of them with a JD bottle, it was brutal.
Great video, we all love and miss Owen James Hart! R.I.P. vastly underrated!
I remember the frustration at the time with this, I’m now inclined (rightly or wrongly) to point towards Vince’s ego, the trigger could have been pulled and I can see no reason why it wasn’t other than Vince
I can, Shaun michaels wouldn’t agree to it
My guess is that it was also Michaels' crybaby attitude (shocker).
DLRX 100% yes !
The BLACK Hart!! Now I get why Nation of Domination let him in!
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This was the best version of Owen IMO
HHH's power in the company is rather impressive. The guy refused to let anyone get over before he officially became the boss' son-in-law. Sure, good Owen Hart wasn't the best, but they could have given him some kind of push. He earned it.
I remember looking forward to watching raw every week for a short period just to see what the black hart was going to do next. Everytime Shawn was in the ring there was a buzz around the arena, fans excited to see Owen run in and attack. But sadly Shawn and HHH had far too push backstage power and Owen was never going to get that strong run.
Such a shame.
RIP Owen
Owen Hart is still one of the best ever! Can't help but feel sad every time I see clips of him.
You just made my day better :) I've been a fan for a long while and you have done amazing work with your channel, bro! Fan 4life
Owen Hart... pure talent! I was lucky enough to meet him and Bulldog at Wembley Arena when I was a young lad. Such a sad end to an amazing talent!
Been watching for a while, this is probably one of my favourite videos of yours! Keep up the good work👍🏻
It's pretty crazy how Bret is the only surviving member of the Hart Foundation. Pillman, Bulldog, and Owen all died within a 5 year timespan.
Yeah it really is.
Jim died years later. Even more tragic.
It does suck they’ll company never got fully behind Owen Hart as a main eventer and WWF Champion.
Owen should have had at least 1 WWF title run, its sad cause he had as much talent as his brother Bret!
All this time I thought Owen faced HBK at DX in your house but it was Shamrock. It really was a wasted opportunity.
I don't think a program between Stone Cold and Owen Hart would've taken place after Wrestlemania 14, even if they tried to give Owen a push at that time. Stone Cold still had heat with Owen after the Summerslam 1997 incident and says that Owen never apologized for that night. Let's not forget, personal heat is what caused Stone Cold to nix a feud with Jeff Jarrett around 1997/1998.
Very true, I doubt Austin was ever going to work with Owen again.
@@DLRX i don't blame him. forgot owen wore the "i broke your neck' shirt. savage.
I’ve been waiting for this. Thank you!
RIP Owen Hart! I really loved the Black Hart character
Your channel keeps getting better and better. The timestamps set a precedent.
Owen Hart and Daniel Bryan to the best professional wrestlers of all time same thing with Kenny Omega and Chris Jericho all remind me Owen Hart
Wow! Aren't u mindless product of the times.
@@hollykost155 okay Jim cornette I'm just saying Daniel Bryan Omega Chris Jericho remind me of Owen Hart I'm just saying that also Adam hangman page reminds me of Barry Windham okay Jim cornette Junior watch 1970s wrestling from Memphis Tennessee and NWA wrestling from the 1980s
Such great attention to detail in your videos. Owen Hart is one of my favorite wrestlers, thanks for this..
The Black Hart was perfect for Owen. An excellent transition away from his brothers shadow that had credibility and set him apart from the rest of the Hart foundation. Certainly better than The Rocket and undoubtedly better than that Blue Blazer nonsense.
I remember when Owen passed that Triple H cried on the camera talking about losing his friend and it seemed from that interview they were close.
Were they not really close? Seems weird he would lobby hard not to lose to Owen or is this just an example of how much Triple H hated to lose.
Probably alittle of both but not wanting to lose more
I think Triple H was stuck with HBK and knew where his bread was buttered. N the Best Stars of The 90s Triple H said Owen hadn't even scratched the surface
95-96 Owen was my favorite wrestler off all time. The Slammy was so funny. I loved the tights " 2 slammy's"
Looking back, I disliked how dirty they did Owen after Bret, Jim, and Davey Boy left and after Brian Pillman passed away. But I guess that's what happens when WWE and certain wrestlers don't see eye to eye. WWE takes it out on the closest loved one.
Out of all this, no one is going to talk about at 5:30 Owen was giving some massive stiff blows to shawn. Jesus.
It's the way it should be done snowflake.
Fuuuukk I wouldn't want to work an angle with him either if he was dropping those kind of bombs
@@hollykost155 I was actually saying that his hits were super believable. Snowflake... tf go somewhere lol
@Manek Iridius U sure got triggered by it though. I really admired your attempt 2 B SNARKY even though it was a failure. Keep plugging away & mayB some day you'll shake off that loser's curse.
@@hollykost155 "Triggered". Man you just full of the latest lingo, kiddo. You are the only loser here. 3edgy5me.
Amazing work and you got a sub from me, and it is just sad what could have been with Owen Hart. I mean he was just hot at the time and WWE dropping the ball on him. Till this day i still felt WWE wasted Owen Hart badly and don't get me started on the incident. Keep up the awesome work.
Shawn still would’ve left in 1998. He cleared the casket. He may have had a back injury but it wasn’t from hitting the casket. He knew Vince would pay him to stay home rather than go to WCW.
They dropped the ball on that Owen black heart. Dude had the momentum to be world champion.
I do agree this was a big missed opportunity on the WWE’s part. I remember watching it as it happened and being let down by how they handled this feud.
I really hope you release the full remix version of Owen's theme, it sounds amazing.
Love the video, man, it breaks my Hart to see how Owen got screwed by WWF. He is one of the best wrestlers ever.
I really hope your videos get monetization ,you really deserve it pal , you make every week pretty great @wrestlebios
Original "The Game"
The game gimmick is a blantant rip off of the Franchise gimmick hhh stole from Shane Douglas from ECW in wwf 99.
Such a missed opportunity with Owen, he deserved so much better. Really sad and upsetting what happened to him.
Thank you for this @wrestlingbios Owen’s Black Heart persona is my personal favourite.
As a heel 94 to 96 Owen was one of my most hated and between being the only Hart that stayed and his passing he was one of my favorites. Literally from top two heels to top two faces. IMO
Owen Hart has to be my favourite wrestler of the 90s
You probably didn't even care for him when he was alive 🤦
Exactly...I'll be honest, I didn't care much for him. Looking back, he was pretty good in the ring and I did really like the Brett Owen feud back in the day though. They had a great title match that I really got into.
I thought he was "ok" as a kid watching him, it was only after he was gone and I was grown I realised how great he really was on and off screen
Man.. i was always a huge fan of the black heart. The outcast... of the family. The black sheep! Been dealing with it mu whole life as well
JG
Crazy how this video pinpointed the exact moment I started watching wrestling.
Why does no one bring up that Vince went back on a 20 million dollar multi year deal. Bret was always going to stay with the WWF and Vince,
I don't blame him for being pissed and then signing with WCW.
Saying that, I always loved Owen too. He was a great heal along with Jim Cornette
I always bring that up. Barely a year into the deal. He kept Bret from being the third man with that contract and ran Bret like a mule to build Stone Cold and Shawn up during that year (people don’t talk about Shawn’s first title run not being so great, but it wasn’t) and helping reestablish Undertaker as a world title guy. Then less than a month after the belt goes on Bret Vince tells him he can’t honor the contract. Vince was planning it for awhile, and i believe Bret somewhere inside saw it coming, if the Montreal Incident isn’t a flat out work it was a worked shoot, with maybe neither party acknowledging that they had both seen it coming. Something about the timing of Wrestling With Shadows makes me think Bret knew not to trust Vince once that long term contract was signed.
I am one of those people, who always preferred Owen over Bret. He and Pillman should've been Austins main antagonists in the attitude era (besides Vince obviously)
Owen Pillman and Bret. For Vince to say Bret had no place in the attitude era is nonsense, his feud with Austin was fantastic. Austin was best friends with Pillman. Pillman’s death was the first domino in what culminates in Bret’s wcw run and Owen’s death.
Owen could have deff been a huge character !!!! Should have definitely been given a push !!!!
The man had a WWF title shot in the early against Bret in 94 I feel like he should of gotten it by that year and hold it for at least up into 95 then lose it back to Bret that year
Should've had Backlund's brief run in '94.
@@PunkRJH90 thats a great point!!! Cuz 2 this day i dont understand y Backlund of all ppl got da title
19:17 Nice to see Rock and Owen together 😊
I've also heard Stone Cold say that he didn't like working with Owen because of the accident.
I think Vince was going to push Owen as HBK’s next feud but DX caught on huge and he went that direction. Financially it definitely would seem to have been the right move.
Honestly Stone Cold probably had a big part in stopping Owen's push too
Owen being in the Nation was The Rock's idea. He said in the past that Owen & Bret looked out for him when HBK & Triple H were giving him hell backstage
Owen was a brilliant worker, but for me Bret is the GOAT. The guy could genuinely have a brilliant match with anybody.
One of the most under rated wrestlers of all time.
You guys need to learn the definition of underrated and when to use it in a context.
Lets not forget when sting and booker t lost to tripple h for some reason. HBK and tripple h are the trash can of wrestling for me.
Lmfao! I forgot about that " Owen 3:16 - I just broke your neck " 😂😂😂. But the injury was not funny at all , but at this Time Austin had recovered as best he could for the most part, making the shirt funny as hell
Hell yes, it's time for the blackheart! Even if Owen wasn't the strongest on the mic having shawn drop the title to him could have restored a lot of faith, if only for a bit on the road to austin getting the title. Such a missed opportunity :/
I also wonder if maybe Owen was supposed to be the higher power? It sounds crazy but maybe the blue blazer thing was a swerve only to bring Owen up as a threat.
Nope. Russo basically said Owen was doing nothing and they came up with making him the blue blazer again...
i like your videos a lot. One suggestion, it's great you already started toa dd short video clips, perhaps you can go one step further and commentate on entire matches in a way that your video will not get pulled down by WWE
As always this is a very good and detailed video. I’m a fan of Owen Hart as well.
Same here💖💖💖💖💖