Thanks for watching our interview with Tom Gale, Publisher of War Room: A Larry Harris Game! Two quick corrections: 1) While Tabletopia only has the Eastern Front. TableTopSimulator has the full global game for free available now (and the other scenarios too). 2) The flag design they are using for China will be the same as the 1st edition ... NOT the 12 point sun against blue. This is just a placeholder in the game. They will have the historical stickers for free at their website. What other questions do you have for us?
Thanks for watching and thanks for your question! I have an interview coming up with Larry Harris. It will be a fan Q&A. What questions do you have for Larry Harris?
As of the publishing of the this video, the Kickstarter campaign for War Room Second Edition has 1,942 backers! Crushing the record for the first edition! Congrats to Tom Gale and Larry Harris!
IMHO, use the flags that were historically used by the countries and qualify/note their use for historical purposes only. What about the Japanese Rising Sun flag? Pretty sure Koreans and any living "comfort women" will find that offensive when they play the game. Ethiopians might find the Italian flag hurtful. Where does one stop? Put a note in the rules, on the board, on the box, etc. that the flags are used for historical purposes and in no way represent the beliefs of the designers, etc. I understand with China and their rewriting of history that you may have to accommodate for the printer and issue historically accurate stickers later. And why is China's "filter" different than others?...why issue historically accurate stickers for one and not others? Should not their aversion to a symbol be respected? Lots of controversy, pit falls and likely mis-steps but how does one apply and how should "filters" be applied in gaming? Filter the most currently offensive to the largest population? Filter all? Is it an immediate death sentence for any game that displays a controversial symbol? Every symbol is going to piss off or rally somebody. Tough calls to make.
Thanks for watching and for a very difficult question. Where should we draw the line in the push between historical accuracy vs. current day political and social concerns? In short, I don't know. I will say that I don't think there are a lot of folks in Italy that share Mussolini's desire for the conquest of Ethiopia, nor do I believe that there are many Japanese that think that having Koreans as slaves is a good idea. I do think that historical board gaming cannot exist in a bubble. I feel that most game designers are aware that there are some troubled individuals that can and have misconstrued a focus on historical accuracy for glorification. If the designers choose to use alternate, but clear art to stand in for something hateful and potentially dangerous in the modern day to avoid even the chance of delusion, I think that is appropriate. (Larry Harris and I discussed this topic in our interview.) As for the Chinese flag issue, I think China's policy regarding the printing of historically accurate flags for board games is a juvenile attempt to suppress the current uprisings in Hong Kong and Taiwan. That is the kind of crap that makes me proud to live in the US. We might disagree, but you can print and hang all the flags you want on your property. Though, ironically, they will likely be made in China. Thanks again for watching and for the question.
@@BoardGameNation Firstly, for the record, there is only one flag I fly, The Start & Stripes (yes, probably made in China...lol). I was thinking less of the Japanese themselves and more of the tens of millions oppressed, tortured, enslaved, murdered and stripped of their own language and national identity by the Japanese under their "occupation". It just seems, perhaps, disingenuous not to find a different symbol for the Japanese, one less offensive to those affected. These posts are more "devil's advocate"...perhaps an appropriate term given the topic. Hope you get access more behind the scenes on Imperial Borders...definitely on my list when available. Thanks for the videos...you put a lot of work into them..
We did get a sort of sneak peak at Imperial Borders, but we are definitely hoping for more. I am talking to Larry Harris about fan Q&A video. Axis and Allies, War Room, Imperial Borders, whatever. What question would you have for Larry Harris?
@@BoardGameNation I would love it if you'd ask Larry "What is the likelihood that he'll make a game, (new or old title) using the now popular "Legacy" mechanic?"
Thanks for watching! We are working on an interview with him coming up soon. That is a great question and I will make sure to ask him. Thanks again for watching!
Thanks for watching our interview with Tom Gale, Publisher of War Room: A Larry Harris Game! Two quick corrections:
1) While Tabletopia only has the Eastern Front. TableTopSimulator has the full global game for free available now (and the other scenarios too).
2) The flag design they are using for China will be the same as the 1st edition ... NOT the 12 point sun against blue. This is just a placeholder in the game. They will have the historical stickers for free at their website.
What other questions do you have for us?
Here's the link to the global (et al) TTS version... steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2419016456
Thanks!
7:23 Wonderful question! And Tom's reaction and the answer really peaked my attention.
Thanks for watching and thanks for your question!
I have an interview coming up with Larry Harris. It will be a fan Q&A. What questions do you have for Larry Harris?
As of the publishing of the this video, the Kickstarter campaign for War Room Second Edition has 1,942 backers! Crushing the record for the first edition! Congrats to Tom Gale and Larry Harris!
You've done it again Gary. Hats off.
Thanks!
IMHO, use the flags that were historically used by the countries and qualify/note their use for historical purposes only.
What about the Japanese Rising Sun flag? Pretty sure Koreans and any living "comfort women" will find that offensive when they play the game. Ethiopians might find the Italian flag hurtful. Where does one stop?
Put a note in the rules, on the board, on the box, etc. that the flags are used for historical purposes and in no way represent the beliefs of the designers, etc. I understand with China and their rewriting of history that you may have to accommodate for the printer and issue historically accurate stickers later. And why is China's "filter" different than others?...why issue historically accurate stickers for one and not others? Should not their aversion to a symbol be respected?
Lots of controversy, pit falls and likely mis-steps but how does one apply and how should "filters" be applied in gaming? Filter the most currently offensive to the largest population? Filter all? Is it an immediate death sentence for any game that displays a controversial symbol? Every symbol is going to piss off or rally somebody. Tough calls to make.
Thanks for watching and for a very difficult question. Where should we draw the line in the push between historical accuracy vs. current day political and social concerns?
In short, I don't know. I will say that I don't think there are a lot of folks in Italy that share Mussolini's desire for the conquest of Ethiopia, nor do I believe that there are many Japanese that think that having Koreans as slaves is a good idea.
I do think that historical board gaming cannot exist in a bubble. I feel that most game designers are aware that there are some troubled individuals that can and have misconstrued a focus on historical accuracy for glorification. If the designers choose to use alternate, but clear art to stand in for something hateful and potentially dangerous in the modern day to avoid even the chance of delusion, I think that is appropriate. (Larry Harris and I discussed this topic in our interview.)
As for the Chinese flag issue, I think China's policy regarding the printing of historically accurate flags for board games is a juvenile attempt to suppress the current uprisings in Hong Kong and Taiwan.
That is the kind of crap that makes me proud to live in the US. We might disagree, but you can print and hang all the flags you want on your property. Though, ironically, they will likely be made in China.
Thanks again for watching and for the question.
@@BoardGameNation Firstly, for the record, there is only one flag I fly, The Start & Stripes (yes, probably made in China...lol).
I was thinking less of the Japanese themselves and more of the tens of millions oppressed, tortured, enslaved, murdered and stripped of their own language and national identity by the Japanese under their "occupation". It just seems, perhaps, disingenuous not to find a different symbol for the Japanese, one less offensive to those affected.
These posts are more "devil's advocate"...perhaps an appropriate term given the topic.
Hope you get access more behind the scenes on Imperial Borders...definitely on my list when available.
Thanks for the videos...you put a lot of work into them..
We did get a sort of sneak peak at Imperial Borders, but we are definitely hoping for more. I am talking to Larry Harris about fan Q&A video. Axis and Allies, War Room, Imperial Borders, whatever.
What question would you have for Larry Harris?
@@BoardGameNation I would love it if you'd ask Larry "What is the likelihood that he'll make a game, (new or old title) using the now popular "Legacy" mechanic?"
Thanks for watching! We are working on an interview with him coming up soon. That is a great question and I will make sure to ask him.
Thanks again for watching!
That game should be played on a computer. Better board-size, more pieces, easier interface...
I think they are working on a version for Tabletop Simulator.
Thanks for watching!