7 THINGS WORSHIP LEADERS NEED TO STOP DOING DURING CHURCH!
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- Worship leaders...please listen up! As a worship leader and a regular attender at church, we can make worship a better experience. Here are 7 things that I want to encourage every worship leader to stop doing so that people can have the best experience during worship and make the best connection with God.
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#8: Stop focusing on entertainment and more on engagement with God.
Absolutely
Worship leader often times entertain us instead of engaging God.
amen
@@mattknauf3996 Thank you!
I totally agree with you on that. I seen this happen so often.
RESCUE FORCE Thank you!
Another thing: stop referring to worship as only the music portion of the service, when worship is a lifestyle of obedience.
Correct
TonyC0101 yup
Good evening, Mr. Carr. Thank you for this timely reminder of what Godly worship should be. The worship leaders at my church and many guest speakers have gently addressed these subjects. The church experience is itself an act of worship, when pursued correctly. Many times the church leaders make the mistake of believing that we need the church service to be a pep rally, or a discussion. The Word of G-d does not need a commentary for every sentence, concept, or scripture. Nor do we need to jump around and damage our vocal folds to show our love of the Lord. The point is not congregational commentary as part of the sermon. The Lord Jesus Christ did not need a commentary when He walked the earth, nor did the ancient God-sent prophets. Either the people believed and responded, or they did neither. What we say means nothing if we are not actually living in obedience to the Lord--whether spoken or sung. The point is for us to hear, not focus on the number of amens, or fear silence as the congregants absorb the message. Too often, our leaders try to manipulate the congregants into speaking, because they are uncomfortable with the silence when people are astonished, convicted, or just curious about what they are hearing. The same is true for song. We indeed need time to reflect on the words in our worship songs, not a concert, or an unnatural excitement. Amen and Amen, Mr. Carr. God bless you and your ministry.
Sure
True as the Bible says let your life be a holy sacrifice unto the lord.
Wow! Last week I felt in my heart that I just wasn't leading worship correctly in my church. So I started a Bible study on it, and some of these points came up. Thank you for confirming what God was telling me. I take being a worship seriously and want to do it correctly spiritually and not worldly. God bless brother. I look forward to more good stuff coming from you!
Man, those old hymns we used to sing from the 18th and 19th century were so good! So full of deep accurate Biblical theology and so beautiful..That’s the kind of music we need our Christian artists to be writing.
Agree, and scripture songs from the 80's were awesome also. Nothing like singing God's word back to God. This is how I learned so many Bible verses.
I'm 27 n I still listen to them
Not to mention that the "NEW CHURCH" is usually dimly lit where even when the preacher is delivering the sermon! It didn't used to be like that and is usually in these "NON-DENOMONATIONAL" churches(in which, by the way are a type of denomination to start)!!! It's almost like going to a rock concert-not church!!!
Can we please sing a hymn??!!!
Why not just go back to those beautiful 18th and 19th century hymns?
Add a number 8, our worship experience is not about making the worship like a rock or rap concert. It’s not a talent show, but an invitation to enter God’s presence.
Yes!! Agree I was looking for this comment..I went to a church where over night turned into what looked and felt like a rock concert they covered the stain glass windows with dark curtains..They turned off the lights and they put on disco lights, heavy electric guitars and in came new pastor (since the old pastor was caught sleeping with prostitutes in the back office was fired the previous week) was like we going to do things different around here and if you don't like it dont let the door hit your a$$ on your way out yes he said a$$..I was like wait did he just say what I think he said?! As soon as the guitars came on and lights cut off I was like bye and never went back
"enter God's presence"?
Respectfully, no. Jesus is ALWAYS with us. We inhabit the Spirit of the Living God. We aren't "ushering" anyone "into" His presence when He is already always with us.
Guess what SIr? That's exactly what I wrote in my comment before reading yours. Amen, Amen and Amen. Its sad to see so many churches making worship a rock show.
@@blooms0120 Ok, I’ll take that rebuke, no problem. I could have used different words to express the worship time as an opportunity for a deeper fellowship. Yes, the Lord is always present with us, but that does not mean that we are always present with Him. There is no “ushering,” but there are moments in a song or while the music plays that stirs you and reminds you that the Lord is near. To your point about “inhabiting,” it is God who inhabits (abides or dwells) in the praises of His people (Psalm 22:3). What do you mean when you say “We inhabit the Spirit of the Living God?” Where does the Bible say this?
I reaaly dislike how my church is all dark with the stage lights on. It does feel like a concert. Maybe it is supposed to make the screens visible but it just doesn't sit right with me.
I like your part about LEAD them to worship and NOT demand them to worship
MY BIGGEST PET PEEVE AS WELL!
Yes, also my pet peeve. Like when they make you sing a part of a song over and over again until we get it loud enough and emotional enough. I mean, who are we trying to please here, God, or the worship leader?
EXACTLY. That’s always what made me uncomfortable during the youth services at my old church. Sometimes the lead worship singer would be like “alright everybody I want you to put your hands up in the air and surrender yourselves to Jesus.” And I’m like “oh no I’m not comfortable doing that because I’m introverted and worship in a different way.”
Most of the time I don’t sing either and I always get weird looks from my parents because of it. I internalize the music and reflect on it. I have never felt comfortable singing or expressing myself freely around most people, and that’s not limited to church (granted, sometimes when the music is deafening I’ll sing because nobody can hear me but nevertheless). I don’t know...it’s like I feel guilty every time I don’t follow along but on the inside I feel totally connected. Like my heart is singing along instead of my lips. I hope that wasn’t too confusing lol.
Of course not demanding people, but its people you are dealing with and we tend to forget where God took us from. A reminder is profitable at times.
THIS!! There are too many ppl coming out with a demanding presence instead of a meek one.
100% true, great video. Worship is not singing a song, its putting all your attention and adoration on the Most High God, He deserves everything that we can give.
Spot on statement ☝🏾
Every worship leader in every church needs to see this and take notes
My husband said, “I didn’t realize worship was an American Idol event.”
Truly
Always an IDOL lol
Not at my church
How true
Super true
I'm 71 years of age and am still leading praise/worship at my church. I have always refused to sing anything that is Biblically and theologically unsound. I also learned years ago it's not about me, but God first, and what genre most of the congregants enjoy, in that order. I can honestly say that I always spend time in prayer prior to sending the "set list" to my team. Thank you so much for sharing.
I am also 71 and was brought up in a traditional church in England. I have some favourite traditional hymns, but also some favourite contemporary worship songs, the words of which are very much Spirit filled. I find it sad when traditionalists will not even give modern song writers the time of day. I am not talking rock and roll here, I am talking about Graham Kendrick and Brian Duerksen etc. What better way to start a service than ' Come now is the time to worship '
God bless you 🙏🏾
I totally agree. Prayer in the worship leader’s life should always precede his leading.
What is biblically/theologically unsound music?
@@S.0.G This comment came to me, but I think you meant it for Keith Miller.
I love being in the presence of the Lord with good praise music. A lot of today’s “praise music” has concert vibes. I don’t think we need strobing lights to give praise. ❤Great video.
Great advice
#4 #4 #4!! Yes please stop coercing people to stand up, yell etc. People worship differently and sometimes people just want to silently be in His presence
"A congregation learns its theology not just by the preaching they hear, but by the songs they sing." - John Piper
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If you learn your theology from today’s modern “worship” songs, you’re in serious trouble. Today’s music takes dreadful liberties. Just look at the examples he sang. As a traveling Christian singer/songwriter, I warn the people to avoid getting their theology and doctrine from musicians.
And he's part of the problem - he associates with heretics and false teachers often.
@@GodsMan500 I think you missed his point. I saw this on Instagram and in the description he discussed how many of today's songs "lack the gravity of God's passion for His glory above all else."
I think his point is that the church also learns their theology from songs they sing the same way we learn theology from sermons. The only difference is that we can memorize the songs we sing at church.
Now let's talk about the problem we face. Today's "Christian" songs are about man and not God. I realized that's not always bad after reading some of the Psalms, but David always glorified God in his songs instead of himself. Today's songs don't sound any different from the songs that would come out of other religions. Many songs talk about "God" but they don't tell the world who this God is, and people only hear what any religion says about God. "God is powerful"? Every religion says that about their god. Tell me how He drowned Pharaoh and his army and how He rescued Israel.
I want Christians songs to talk about God's glory, holiness, love, sacrifice, commitment, death, resurrection, incarnation, and to sharply distinguish Him from the "gods" of other religions.
@@GodsMan500
This is what John Piper posted on his Instagram a few weeks ago under that quote I shared above:
"There's a thread of teaching in some songs today that seems, to me, to lack the gravity of God's passion for the glory of God above all things. Let me say that again. There's a thread of teaching in some songs today that seems, to me, to lack the gravity of God's passion for his glory above all else.
"My sense is that, until a congregation is devastated by the outrage and the horror of our sin as demanding and belittling to the glory of God, accompanied by a majestic vision of God's glory and justice and holiness and wrath - until those two realities are taught and felt deep down, the reality of grace and mercy will not be rightly known and cherished by a congregation. It really matters to me, then, how we sing about grace.
"It seems to me that there's a strain or a thread of songs that tend to assume that people's sorrow, shame, and difficulties in life are enough of a backdrop (a bad backdrop) to make the mysteries of the glory of the Gospel known over against them. I don't think so.
"I don't think the sorrows and the shame that people bring, without being taught what their real condition is, are enough to help them understand grace. In fact, people are going to distort grace if it's not taught against a backdrop of the biblical bad news rather than the bad news that people bring - which they think they understand to be the bad news. It's not the bad news.
"The New testament assumes that people need to be taught what their real terrible condition is under the power of sin before grace can really be the God-exalting reality that it is."
Simple: BE LED BY THE SPIRIT
And you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
@@sharoncrawford3042 amen🤗
Not simple for a new Christian.
@gabriella kama can you explain what that is?
@@horatiosvengali4624 its simple, idk y people complicate what being led by the Spirit means...capital S, let God lead you in what to worship not SELF
Thanks Allen. Point 1 set me free. I used to feel inadequate because, I don't tend to do all those dramatic riffs. I enjoy the diversity of voices and styles in the Kingdom, but am not wired like that. Now I know that it's ok, and there is a lane for all of us.
This is why I’m a backup singer most of the time. I CAN and often DO do those dramatic riffs. But because I’m not singing lead, it adds to the song rather than detracting from it. The congregation follows the worship leader and on the rare occasion they register what I’m doing, they often tell me it inspired them during worship.
There’s one song we do frequently (Won’t Stop Now) that I do this dramatic Freddy Mercury-like slide up to a high note. It started because I was goofing around during rehearsal while learning the song and I assured the worship leader that I wouldn’t do it during worship and she said, “you should!” And now every time we get to that point, it causes a cheer- not for me, but because it’s an exciting point in the song accentuated by the slide and it reminds people that God is not going to stop his blessings.
No. 1 also validated me in my worship leading. I was a worship leader for about 9 years, playing keyboard and singing. My voice is not that of a soloist. But it is strong and sure and I was able to lead the congregation in every song. I always felt my voice was not good bc I am not a singing star. Now I feel God's affirmation in what I did for Him. Thank you.
I used to struggle with this very thing. I can do all the stuff but I toned it down for the sake of church to make sure the congregation wouldn't feel it was coming from the wrong place because this was an old Baptist church. Slowly, I did start to implement certain things because when I sang, I wasn't thinking about sounding good or making the song sound like an R&B song. I had to pray about that and God spoke to me about it. As long as I was using my ability to worship and usher in His presence, it was fine. And the congregation did receive everything I did while leading.
I struggled with this too. I remembered that someone saying that there is nothing special with my voice,notes and keys. Which kinda hurt for me that until I’m judging myself am i in the right position of (Worship Lead). But now i know and being affirmed that i dont need to be that “special” cause my voice, my notes and the keys i cant reach are actually comfortable to all the congregations ~
I completely agree with worship leaders need to stop commanding people to worship. Such a good point!
If you love Jesus STAND - LIFT HOLY HANDS - COME ON CLAP - turn to your neighbor .. 😂can’t stand em
Here's a kicker Don't just sing songs live it.
That's OUR CALLING.
Exactly!!!
That is a kicker because I needed to see this
@@keirrawilliams3775 It took me a while too learn that I was ignorance of the gospel years ago.
BOOM
You do not need someone from seminary. We need someone that has the Holy Spirit that reads their Bible
A resounding AMEN 🙏🏼❤️🌷
I Really Agree With You, It's Not About Seminary, It's About Giving God The Honor & Glory & Letting Holy Spirit Move In Our Lives.
Agree! There are so many seminary-trained people around, and that's not a bad thing in itself, but if the Spirit isn't leading the leader--it doesn't matter.
"Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain that build it." This applies to every role in the church body.
Capable, gifted saints should have a place in the church (to serve) regardless of whether they have any seminary training. I've known many who weren't and are more than able to preach, teach, lead worship, etc., than many today. That way God alone gets the glory!
Let’s get Dr. Ed Litton to weigh in on this one
I think you’re over simplifying the value of seminary.
I'd like to suggest that sound engineers turn down the volume so we can hear the congregation worship, hear those precious holy spirit moments and develop our voices together as God's family...dare I say have acoustic worship! Thank you for your insightful and encouraging list!
AMEN! And how about putting the worship team in the back of the auditorium so the focus is not on human beings, but on God? 🤔
@@janfitch4830 , agree. The last church I served at had the stage to the side, so the musicians could still lead but not be the primary focus, and the area directly in front of the congregation contained only the cross and beautiful stained glass windows. Architecture is theology. What is it saying about what is the object of our worship?
“7-11” songs! Perfect! That expression gives words to what I’ve felt about so many songs for years!
I always say “church is a place of worship not performance” esp during choir practices
Every moment that we gathered, needs to be treasured, even during rehearsals. You don't know when God is going to meet the needs of another person. We limit God's blessings by not being sensitive to the Holy Spirit at all times. After all, He's our present helper.
Kahn-Air Samuel When I was on a worship team years ago, I always loved the choir practice before services! I miss being on that team. The Holy Spirit was definitely moving.
If we aim for being better at our singing or playing our instruments, we ALWAYS need to aim our performance as wholehearted and sincere worship toward God in HUMILITY TO GLORIFY HIM and not ourselves. Whatever we do in worship, whether it be in music or something else, let it ALWAYS be ABOUT HIM, and NOT about us.
I totally agree. I have listened to choirs who are so concerned in their performance that they are not actually worshipping through their music. Worship music should never be a performance.
Yes, commanding people to worship in a certain way is so annoying! 🙃
It really is 😕!
Can you name certain sentences they use that sound commanding? Thanks
@@blender176 when the pastor stops the service because you refuse to stand, it's not a suggestion it's a command. Yes this really happened to me and my sister on our 16 or 17 birthday.
Unfortunately I don’t think they realize it. Which is why it’s important to be the church in the church.
Revelation 3:19
@Justin Durham we are not under the old convenant ...read hebrews 7 and 8 and 10...we have a different preiesthood
Finally I have found what I think I needed because I have been left out several times in the worship experience at church because the worship leaders are doing exactly all the things you just talked against.... At some point I thought I had a problem because I feel better worshiping in my bedroom than at church 😭 worship in the church of today is more like a talent show of voices and trending songs 😭😭 but God bless you for this message.
Along with the "Don't quench the Spirit" is one of my pet peeves. It is when the song is finished and the lights go on BAM and the worship leader says, "You may be seated". It's like this wonderful moment of basking in the presence of God and SPLASH! someone douses you with ice water.
Yeah, I don't want to be seated! I want to keep worshipping! This Christmas, I was at another congregation in Kentucky that celebrated the sending of the Word that way as I visited friends. Of course, I needed to love that congregation by respectfully being mindful and listening to the way they contextualized the gospel during their worship service while my home in Atlanta was not producing worship service (cf., Mt. 22 verses 36-40; Jn. 14 verse 15; Jas. 1 verse 19). 🕊
They have to find a stopping point sometime otherwise the message wouldn’t ever get preached. I love to worship to but I don’t want to spend 2 hours straight doing so. Unless I’m attending a night of worship that’s dedicated solely for that purpose.
But why do some churches turn off the lights during the praise session? It's a genuine question really. I don't get it. Is it culture in the U.S, What's that about?
Yes Indeed Out of My Element. I couldn't agree with you more! AMEN TO THAT!!!❤
A lot of times they are doing what they have been told. Trying to keep the service moving on time especially if they are the first service and there are one or two more services that morning. Also, everybody does not want to sing for two hours. A lot of people want to actually here with a message is from the minister.
As much as I like modern worship songs, sometimes I wish good-ol' hymns would make a comeback
Hymn of the ages by Maverick city music
In reality if you are the worship leader, you can introduce them if not then talk to the Worship leader about this concern.
I prefer old hymns.
They never went away. At least not in my book. No pun intended ☺️😅
Check out Jaydon Lavik.
I wished there was a AMEN button cause I would just keep hitting it over and over.
Douglas White lol I knowww righhhtt!
AMEN!
😄😂🤣
absolutely
Me too ! I just sit back down, but then I’m 74 and can’t stand for long (disabled) so no body realises ! I all the songs beforehand ‘the warmup’ and I just wish occasional we could have a great old hymn, and relates to the message/sermon ! But we have a young minister, with young kids, so is very family orientated, which is great, but there’s no one for us‘oldies’ and I’ve been there over 60 years, and although I can’t do much now, I’m useless, but I have done much in the past he knows nothing about ! Oh well, I’m looking forward to seeing my Lord in glory ! Bless you and your videos xx
The last church I went to sang so many songs that the Worship Leader wrote,but no one knew. We all just stood there for the performance.
What you said was awesome! Thank you so much brother. I am 71 yes old and been serving Jesus since I was 9 yes old. I was a ministers wife for almost 31 yes. I lead and played for worship. This is the best knowledge I have ever heard for worship leaders and preachers. Thanks for the examples! Continue to obey the Lird. He is using you in a wonderful most needed way! God bless you so very true. Thank you again!
Great advice but there is one issue that worship leaders need to stop doing; the vast majority of parishioners don't like it when there is more than 3 times a lyric is repeated, it is not just redundant but people drop out of worshipping and it frustrates then. As you said, the worship leaders job is to lead them into God's presence not do a performance. This I believe, is number one.
Number two for worship leaders. Use a monitor so you can hear yourself. So many singers are way of key or flat so bad that people can't follow. Use a monitor.
Thank you so much for this enlightenment
I absolutely love “What a beautiful Name” and the first time I sang it I was blown away by the words, “You didn’t want heaven without me, so Jesus You brought heaven down.” I didn’t even think that meant He was lonely without me, to me it meant that Jesus so longs for me to be in heaven that He came down to make it possible in the most amazing way! God doesn’t wish that anyone should perish! 2 Peter 3:9
Jenny Hansford exactly I agree, I never once thought of it in the way he described. That’s probably the main point I didn’t agree with in this video.
It's not one of those that jump out at you but that part of the song itself was more man centered than God centered. We were not created to fill a need that God has. We were created for His glory alone. He died on the cross because He is a just God and a loving God, not because of some type of loneliness He couldn't find in the Trinity.
Some of it is left to a bit of interpretation due to the nature of art, but generally you don't want a song that needs a list of justifications within your music set.
Generally if a song makes you feel warm fuzzies you should immediately question if the song is focused on GOD or on you and react appropriately.
I had the same experience, Jenny. First I loved it, then heard the controversy on that one line. I didn't see it that way but I accepted the change to, 'You wanted us in heaven with you, so Jesus you brought heaven down.' Either way, it's still one of my favorites I sing in church. God bless
@@frankrossiter you know, I reaay love this song. I didn't even know that there was controversy about it. And I can see where it could mean what persons seem to think it means. My first thought of this song was that it is intimate, personal. I would say I think it's a matter of personal perception. What was the intent of the writer's heart when it was written, only God nows? While I'm concern about all the secular songs coming into churches, and songs that don't glorify the Triune God, I'm not so sure about this one and what everyone is opposing. But I will continue to seek the Holy Spirit's help. Question is, are there any other songs by Hillsong that are questionable? I'm a kinda newbie to their music.
The Pastor at my highschool church has no voice for singing at all, but man, did he worship the loudest. It's a very humbling experience.
Bahahahaha!!! What a polite way to say dude can’t sing!!! God bless you!!
There was a gentleman in the church I grew up in that sang a phrase behind everyone else. Distracting, but he was a sweet man, and we had to remind ourselves that he was making a joyful noise.
Our church went right along with his take on the lyrics in "What a Beautiful Name". We changed the words from "You didn't want heaven without us..." to "We couldn't reach heaven without You..." It works great now & we feel confident that we are singing something that is theologically correct.
Good word!
My dad is a worship pastor and we sing those songs, but changed the lyrics to “ever in pursuit of what you said” and “we couldn’t reach heaven without you.”
That's a great rewrite on those lyrics!!
I would use “changing” because it keeps the original meaning- which is not physical evolution, but mental or spiritual evolution. So many people think it means physical evolution, but it really doesn’t. I feel like young Christians might miss the subtlety, though, so changing the lyrics is a good call.
This was so good!❤❤❤. I remember the old himself and pastors letting God to lead the service including the music directors . You could feel God's presence. It was so beautiful the different ways God moved in those services. Some were praising and shouting while others were quiet and calm just letting the holy spirit move. Too many nowadays have a program and entertainment service. Love that you are bringing this to light. ❤❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏🫶🫶🫶
My dad is a worship leader, and he doesnt show off his voice, he just praises the Lord!!!
My dad is a worship leader too, and he does the same!!!
Bless as it should. Somehow it sounds more beautiful when you sing truthfully to the lord.
Thank you so much for this. As a worship leader, I’ve been guilty of many of these points. And we can only become better by humbling ourselves and learning. So thank you so much!!
God bless you!
Me Too, Thanks for your honesty!
Great humble heart. I commend you. Go forward
Wow. God bless you
Thank you My Brother for opening up & sharing about YOU! I know God is TRULY BLESSING you for sharing! Often in ministry, Ministers, Leaders & Pastors want people to believe they are PERFECT!! They have ALL their STUFF together!! OOH! Not So!
I just needed to Thank You for being transparent!! You helped US!! May God Bless you for your willingness & obedience to share!! We ALL, if SINCERE need to GROW & MATURE IN OUR LIVES WITH OUR LORD!!! I am an Assistant Pastor & you BLESSED ME! God Bless you as you Continue to GROW & GO IN HIM!! KEEP TRUSTING THE LORD!!!
"You know it in your heart." Amen. Let the Holy Spirit help us worship God in spirit and truth.
While I agree with what you stated, worship leaders are to be clear and precise. Many people do not equate the word evolve with the word change. I'm speaking as a worship leader and an educator. Most people need to hear simple language that focuses on God and God alone.
@@danielleowusu5162 indeed. That's the reason why Sir Allan said we know it in our heart if we really are leading the congregation to worship or just performing in front.
Worship leaders have to be led by the Holy Spirit in order to lead the church to worship. I hope I make sense with my words?
I love this bcuz I'm guilty of most of this as a youth, I'll ask or shout out to my friends to sing louder for Jesus, not taking consideration for how they've felt. Thanks 🙏🏼
“The lights go down? “ I Do wish church didn’t feel like a concert, or theatre performance?
Yes! And eliminate the ‘’me” in worship! Point us to the Lord, His attributes, not what me me me is getting from Him.
May we glorify Him, not elevate us!
Get out of the churches that have the lights out with just a SPOTLIGHT on the pastor. Churches should'nt be DARK.. period!!!
Haha 😄 🤣 true but as long as their is praise and worship that's all that matters. He is still to be praised.even if the lights are off.. it's not concerning at all hahah
I was spending time with God this morning and asking him whether I should join the worship team at my Young Life group, and I think the Holy Spirit led me to this video to recognize the responsibility of being a worship leader and how humbling and rewarding it is to lead people to Jesus. Thank you for this video, I think my prayer has been answered!
Very nice! God bless you!
Jennifer Ekwonye Yessssss I’m Really happy you was lead Here Worship is definitely leading people in Jesus
That's how God leads
#5: Something I like to do is to explain the song before I sing it. Something simple, and mostly what God guides me to do and say, but I think it is something that can help with this😊✨
May the blessing of our God be upon you and family. I am brother Orlando Portela from P.R. I've been a worship leader for 30 years, and I thank God for what you are teaching .
"You didn't want heaven without us. So you brought heaven down" I always interpreted that as he loved us so much he didn't want heaven without us not that he was lonely.....
Exactly!!!! I think he over analyzed those two songs…..I’m a worship leader and I know what those lyrics mean….he has valid points in the other things though
Same here. Its like the after fall of man that put us out of reach of heaven. So Jesus came down to make a way for us. Right??
Well, that’s one way to read it… There are basically two interpretations: 1) God intended heaven for us, and didn’t want it to be otherwise; and 2) God didn’t want heaven at all if we weren’t there, as if heaven was incomplete without humanity.
One is right. One is wrong. The line is written in such a way that the distinction is unclear.
But, there’s a lot of wordplay like that going on in current worship music. A more clumsy example is the song “Jireh,” which has a great chorus, by the way. Here’s the line (my notes in parentheses)…
« I wasn’t holding You up »
(as in literally, in the air)
« So there’s nothing I can do to let You down »
(figuratively, to do something of which God disapproves)
That’s a logical non sequitur. That’s like saying what happens to Mercury the planet also applies to mercury the element… Or that you’re nothing like your father because one time an apple fell that was nowhere near a tree.
It sounds clever, though, because subconsciously you sense the double entendre. But, it usually doesn’t cause you to stop and parse it out. So, a correct denotative/literal meaning can smuggle in an incorrect connotative/figurative meaning, and the lyrics are written as if both meanings are true.
I don’t think it’s done with bad intent. I just think right now it’s poetically en vogue in Christian music to hint that God might have a blind spot when it comes to being totally infatuated with “me, myself and I.” That being said, as with “Jireh,” the majority of the song is good.
Also, I don’t think worship should be divided along the lines of “thinking” and “feeling.” “Too much thinking” versus “too much emotion.” Both our thoughts and emotions are valid vehicles of worship when they are obedient to Christ. The ultimate goal is to love Him with our whole heart, soul, mind, and strength.
If you don't want something without somebody, that doesn't mean you're lonely. It means you love them so much. I don't see any flaw with that line cause nothing about it implies being lonely. I mean... it didn't say "You needed us in heaven" or something.
From what he said, he emphasized on "theological" implication of the lyrics of a song. The ultimate aim of Jesus's coming to earth was to restore us to the father. Man had a relationship with God in the garden of Eden, man was God's friend, but sin created that enmity between us and God. So Christ's coming was to bring us back to God, to have that relationship with had with him before the fall, which happened on Earth. Man's downfall didn't happen in heaven, but right here on earth, therefore the ultimate aim for Christ's coming was to restore that relationship we had with the father right here on Earth, heaven was the bonus. Therefore saying he didn't want heaven without us sounds beautiful, but theologically, it doesn't sound right. In worship, the lyrics of a song must always have a firm foundation direct link from the Scriptures
Hmmm! Bring back some of the hymns that have conviction and words in line with the word of God!
Don’t nobody wanna sing hymns😂😂🤣🤣
They are boring most times
Worship is NOT about what we want. Worship is all about God and what he wants.
I love hymns too, but different types of songs will resonate with people differently. Some people can’t engage with hymns like you and I can. God can be worshipped with many different kinds of music! 😊
I love hymns too! I love some worship music but a lot of them are Biblically inaccurate.
I love hymns, we sing out the book every service ! I love victory in Jesus and nothing between !
Thank you for this brother! Confirmation on what God has been putting in my spirit about worship. May the Lord bless you and keep you!
We recently moved and visited 4 churches before joining ours. One was a contemporary service with a stage band and when the congregation clapped after a song, one of the vocalists said, "Thank you... thank you." Honey, you know we're clapping for Jesus, right?
Lmao 😂😂😂
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Hope that the person was actually saying Thank You to God after being ministered by Him haha
Thank you so much. When we moved we were in search of a new church. We went to a suggested one and it was like American Idol on stage. They were on the big screen and one singer looked directly into the camera and was smiling and performing like he was in a broadway show. I became very distracted. It wasn't the place for us and we've since found a smaller church where last week one worshipper was almost unable to finish the song because she was caught in praise due to her healing. I knew as we joined her in praise and worship we truly had an open heaven. I don't want my 4 boys to get caught up in whats going on in the atmosphere and miss what's going on in the spirit.
Sonja Ortiz amen sister!!!! That’s beautiful;). I have 6 kiddos and our church has the lights & stages etc. yeah it sounds great but after many years of that type of “worship” we just long for the heart of worship without performance.
Generally speaking, if it looks like a concert venue, I'm out.
You should try The Old Path. You'll hear Bible mystery and wisdom unfolding more plus the music is being sang by a choir and not a big rock band.
At my church, when we sing "what a beautiful name", instead of the original lyrics, we sing: You are the light that shatters darkness
You are Heaven's King come down
@Trevor Seath That's a good point! And that's kinda what I was thinking as well. Lol, but my church is still gonna sing it this way 😂
Wow
I have no problems with the lyrics of the songs he mentioned. I do have a problem with “Jesus Will” by Anita Wilson. Some of those lyrics are: “Who will make all my decisions for me
Jesus Will, Jesus Will” and “Who makes me do right, when I would do wrong
Jesus Will, Jesus Will.” These lyrics are not only theologically erroneous, but they are disturbing. I simply change them. I see no problem with the idea of evolution- I don try think it disproves God at all. In fact, science supports God and the idea that all living things were created to survive. So whether gag looks like a tree that’s evolved bc it’s bent towards the sun or the evolution of animal characteristics- I’m fine with all of it bc it speaks to the nature that God created us with. As for God not wanting heaven without us- that’s absolutely true as well. Isn’t that what this whole love story is about? Reconciliation and fellowship like what mankind had with God in the garden? In order to achieve that, God left His throne and came in the form of man- Jesus, The Christ. The Bible explicitly states that Christ was God robed in flesh. So yes, He left heaven and came down to redeem us Himself. And his motivation was love.
@lukie harris I disagree- I think God actually didn’t want heaven without us. There is no implication in that, that God needs us. It simply means that His preference, His desire, His choice, His want is to have us be with Him there. This doesn’t have to be complicated. He wants us in heaven with Him. (Or put another way- he didn’t want heaven without us) And I’m not sure why anyone would disagree with that.
@Trevor Seath I think that there is nothing wrong with those lyrics.
As someone that leads worship, I must say that you're absolutely correct.
The second point about theologically accurate songs is on point and hit home. We actually had that exact song “So Will I” suggested to us multiple times but just couldn’t do it because of that lyric. The rest of the song is so amazing, but we couldn’t think of an alternative lyric and decided it was better to not bother with an alternative lyric since people would ultimately go back to the original to listen to at home and we didn’t want to be endorsing it so to speak.
Evolving in this song is not referring to physical evolution; it’s referring to mental, emotional, or even spiritual evolution- which should be happening within us at all times. As we learn more about who God is, our faith should evolve. That’s what it means. They’re using nature’s constant change to remind the listener that we, too, should change when we need to. I do, however, feel like young Christians wouldn’t understand this and so the song SHOULD be left out of worship. However, if you want to use it in personal worship, go for it! (Or even explain the lyric to the congregation before using the song in worship.)
Ooo! Or I just had a thought- substitute the word “changing” for evolving. Makes it a bit more obvious.
My father would teach theological accuracy from the pulpit decades ago. I'm so glad I learned that lesson. Paul taught us in Collosians to "admonish and TEACH" one another with "songs, hymns and spiritual songs". We must be accurate in what we teach.
@@duaneporter1907 That's true, but we have to remember that words have more than one meaning. If you like the song, explain the meaning of the lyrics in question before introducing it to the congregation. (Evolving here means changing.)
The Hebrew word translated as create is bara. Bara literally means 'to let fatten'. It is only used in the Bible to describe things which are allowed to unfold on their own.
When you look at exactly how the word bara appears in the text, it is clear that nothing in Genesis contradicts the theory of evolution.
In fact, the idea that all things 'created' are a work in progress, filled with 'ruach' (or the breath of God) and evolving toward or moving away from the nature of God is one of the Bible's major themes.
The lyrics to So Will I are fine. Saying things like "Evolution? That's not how God created things" are what are theological and liguistically inaccurate.
“Stop quinching the spirit.” Yes! 🙌🏽 I feel this way. Especially if the spirit is moving, but the preacher is so pressed with getting their sermon preached. What needed to be done was done! Move with the spirit not with your set schedule.
This is on point...👍👍👍
Wow brother so on point I'm old school and just love seeing the services of GOD BEING SPIRIT DIRECTED THAT IS WHAT'S NEEDED IS THE ANOINTING IS WHAT DESTROYED THE YOKE
Exactly!!!
That's y I love my apostle because there are times we go into worship and he will skip his sermon and say God's word n presence is in the place. We end in worship n prayer. I dislike those that rush the spirit...
This is so true .
As a worship leader I thought this was going to be another one of those opinionated videos, but NO. These are the best points I’ve heard yet! I needed to hear this. Thank you brother!
Amen!!
I agree 💯 % with you, am a Nigerian and my pastor comes up with we need to script the worship and I tell him respectful that we usually give free reigns to the Holy spirit and always keep to time, he still insisted but in the end God shutdown media and we went old school again, the congregation are learning to worship unaided as we the worship leaders were tought and God is doing great things for all.
God makes a way out of no way 🙏 🙌
Yes .. run from those that like the “act” of worship .. how’s pastor now? I wonder
As a person who's not necessarily a fan of worship music(just because it's been getting blander for years), this is very true, and this needs to be spread.
Politely saying...I really don't think worship (music) is about being a fan/not. It's a way of life really. Whether it's gotten bland over the years, we remain worshipping. Their lack of true worship should not affect my desire to worship. Good thing is, my worship is independent of other people's worship. I can do it by myself. I'm not saying cooperate worship is wrong/shouldn't be, just that If theirs doesn't sound good/isn't true worship, do it your way as the Spirit leads/allows you to.
But, there are people who've remained true.
As a musician, I constantly pray, "not to us, but to Thy Name give glory". I don't want the glory that should go to God Himself.
Guilty: I sometimes will get lost in my worship, that the congregation may not be able to follow. Thank you, and praise the Lord for what you are doing brother... God bless you...
You are so humble to admit. God bless you more
You are a very honest person. Not many can own up to the truth.
You worship God your way my friend. This is good but it's only showing one way of how people should worship. Not one part of his whole talk did he mention the word of God. How about question those who wrote those songs and understand the meaning of those songs before picking on what they are writing and worshiping.
Wow! Such Godly humility. You just gave a ton of other true leaders the confidence in humility to step back & re -examine things they may not have thought of before. With SO many Charlatans in the world- it's wonderful to know there are still pastors like you. (& my pastor, too).
Hmmm.idk why my text went wonky..."to step back and re-examine a few things they likely not have even thought about before"
Wooow Pastor you bless me when you say our job is to lead people to God not to command them, you know that,when we serve Godl let server Him in spirit so God will testify for his presence, Pastor go go forward with God purpose 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Hello, as a Worship Leader. I am grateful and thankful to see this video and listen to it. I learned alot and i must apply this in Worship leading . God bless you! teach more, share more to bring Glory to God, Mr. Allen.
In my hometown, people need to know the difference between a concert and a worship
You are 1million% right.
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
No to Pop concert lighting, Dim lighting.
Turn off music time to time and Sing with out music so that congregation needs to feel they are worshiping God along with the church on an individual basis.
Stop spending millions of dollars in Worship tech and feed the hungry people in your church who are your immediate neighbours.
Stop showcasing musicians on the stage like a music concert. Let the Church face any empty hall and all musicians and Singers standing to the side so that People are NOT DISTRACTED by the musicians.
Sorry if all this hurts whoever are reading. I am an Audio Engineer myself. But I see the modern day Praise and Worship to be contradicting the Word of God in many areas.
Lord Jesus your name be Glorified alone. Hallelujah.
@@ABS_AD77 True brother, well said.
I've been a worship leader, music minister, worship team member and md for a major gospel artist. If worshiping / praising God is not at the center of what you're doing, you're missing the mark. There will always be different musical styles ( traditional, contemporary, gospel etc) but the God we worship NEVER changes. He searches the heart, not the style...
@@ABS_AD77 yes and no. If the world gives their best to sing songs to the devil, we should give more effort to sing to worship God. The next generation are digital. God deserves it all. A capella corporate singing and praising in the middle is included. Praying together is included. No problem with professional excellence for God.
Point 1 added - Don’t make it about by sharing constantly what is going in your life and your family which is another way to make it about you.
I wish my worship leaders cld watch this video, they really need it, I had decided never to enter church when they are ministering, I only go for the word
I go to church late to miss the music . Just there for learning Gods word not to see a concert.
I don’t like singing in front of people or having to act like everyone else. Worship for me is connecting to God and praising him from hearing the truth of the Bible.
It's a matter of interpretation and sometimes we have to be careful about trying to determine what's in someone else's heart as it concerns God. When I heard the lyrics from "So Will I" I never thought they were referring to evolution. I thought evolving meant growing in pursuit of God's Word and being transformed into what he said. The same for Oh What a Beautiful Name; I never interpreted it as incorrect theology. When she sang you "didn't want heaven without us, so you brought heaven down" my interpretation was God loved us so much, he came down to redeem us.
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Exactly. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I thought... lyrics should be less vague and clear . Using actual scripture is helpful. The person who write this song was interviewed and said yes I’m referring to evolution. So that’s pretty clear what their meaning was
Correct!
True
As some one who did not grow up in a church, I find the old traditional hymns rich musically and with lyrics. Am I alone? My dear father in law is 93, and plays them on the piano still. Beautiful! Imo, modern worship music sounds the same!
Bring back the old hymns!
I did grow up in church and I also love the old hymns.
I’ve been really getting back to the old hymns lately too! As you say there are many that are so beautiful and theologically rich. I’ve been moved to tears just singing them by myself. I have an old service hymnal at home the church let me borrow and I’ll sing them to my young kids to put them to sleep too.
Great thing too is there are more and more worship groups that are releasing and recording hymns with modern instruments and sound! Check out Celtic Worship, worship initiative, CityAlight, even Carrie Underwood just released a hymn album called My a Saviour which is great imo
Hymns are SO important
I grew up in church and have always, and still love them.
People don't know most 7-11 songs (until it's played several times I suppose) but the songs are so shallow. When I hear that God is "good", from reading scripture there is a demand that God is much more than "good". I look around during those songs and nobody is signing along but when suddenly "Amazing Grace" is played everyone is singing. I'm a firm believer in the hymns because they are so rich in God's word and theological accuracy. Can we make a hymn a "rock--n-roll" type sound - absolutely! I'm not a leader, but firmly believe that most folks do not join in worship (singing) because they simply don't know how to sing the song, or the band is more of a "show" than true worship of the true living God.
Oh my God! MY pet peave is Commanded Worship, or as I call it, "kick-praise". If our worship leading is not enough to encourage and inspire, we need to FAST AND PRAY FOR A GREATER ANOINTING. Put changing tactics on the backburner, and ask the Holy Spirit to increase our ability to encourage, inspire, and tap into the spirit and heart of the people. Thank you for this video. Well done 👏
Hello Allen Parr. We sing "What a beautiful name it is" in our church. We are fundamentalist and my pastor is very critical when it comes to the word of God and didn't tell me that it was wrong to sing. I am the worship leader in our church and I interpreted the lyric "You didn't want heaven with out us, so you brought heaven down" I took it to say that God did not want us in hell, he wanted to redeem us to himself and he wants us in heaven with him. God doesn't want heaven to not have us there even though we know that all will not enter heaven. I think someone should ask the writer what they meant. I also took the "You brought heaven down as an analogy. I interpreted it as Jesus is from heaven, Jesus was "God with us" on this earth. So I took them to mean Jesus was that piece of heaven that came down. Now maybe they could have changed it around to make it more literal. But in the sake of writing and being artistic with words, I get it.
As the worship leader in my church...WOW... I'm guilty of doing probably ALL the things that you mentioned! I'm COMPLETELY new in this position that God has placed on me. Super grateful to God for the opportunity to lead worship and to you sir for the help of understanding the importance and process that needs to taken to be a TRUE leader in worship. My God!!!
Please check out Pastor Gene Kym, he has videos on this subject, I really think it might help and give you more insight!! God Bless You!!
@Michael Mann May The Lord bless your honesty and transparency. May The Spirit of God anoint you with a freshness that only God Himself can give🙏🏾 Become The Oil of God🙏🏾
I've been leading worship for over 30 years and have yet to "figure it out" or get everything exactly right, brother. Pray for wisdom, PRACTICE, trust God in all of your life and pray for wisdom. And when you're done with that, pray for wisdom. Did I mention that we all need God's wisdom? Yeah, we should pray for that 😉
@@ZehrifiedTV I think this is great advice! I tell all new born again Christians to pray for wisdom! It really helps in our spiritual walk with the Lord, I like the way you worded your comment-----made me smile God bless you
I am a worship leader at my church and to be honest this teaching has really opened my eyes. I will never mislead people as a worship leader
Amen, thank you Jesus👏🙏
This is awesome and I think it's true. We must worship in Spirit and Truth not only when we are told to worship (perform) but because we have such a connection with God that we naturally want to worship Him. I thank God for my church's worship leader.
I worked for a church for 5 years. Another thing I might add is "stop telling people how to worship and stop criticizing". We started a church and our Pastor and his wife are excellent singers. Our Pastor even writes music and songs. In our church services, people would raise their hands to God, or close their eyes, or go to the altar to pray or express thanks (not during the closing song or benediction). People in the church would mumble, complain and even tell people after the service they can't do those things. We became a stiff and snobby church. I'm glad you said the one about it's not your vocal performance. There was a lady in our church who would do the music while we were looking for a music minister. She had a beautiful voice but every morning and night, she did a solo. Me and another friend laughed that it was "the Cindy show". It was boring. This same lady made fun of people who tried out for the choir. That's why when others asked me to try out, I said No. I'm not that great of a singer and I knew I would be criticized by her. That's why I used my talents elsewhere.
Wooow even me i was like that i believed that my voice was not qualified enough to lead people in worship but because of the fact that God is not a respecter of any man and by his grace i do sing
Some worship leaders need to actually start worshiping😂😂
Kristelle Beauboeuf that part
Honestly
I agree!
Absolutely
AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHA!!
Amen to the songs that aren't theologically sound. Christian radio stations have gotten way off with this, too.
So true these.
I knew my favorite Christian radio station was doomed when I started hearing weird songs about people having power and then, sure enough, they announced that they had partnered with Bethel. Ugh.
You are 1million% right.
Now some Christian radio stations are mixing secular songs in between with Christian songs and playing on the radio.
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
No to Pop concert lighting, Dim lighting.
Turn off music time to time and Sing with out music so that congregation needs to feel they are worshiping God along with the church on an individual basis.
Stop spending millions of dollars in Worship tech and feed the hungry people in your church who are your immediate neighbours.
Stop showcasing musicians on the stage like a music concert. Let the Church face any empty hall and all musicians and Singers standing to the side so that People are NOT DISTRACTED by the musicians.
Sorry if all this hurts whoever are reading. I am an Audio Engineer myself. But I see the modern day Praise and Worship to be contradicting the Word of God in many areas.
Lord Jesus your name be Glorified alone. Hallelujah.
I can't even listen to K-Garbage anymore. The music is so vanilla popsicle!
@@pamalavela1895 Family Radio ftw!
Thank you for sharing this wisdom, as the lead worship leader at my church for 10 years it is very good to consider these things. Sometimes it becomes mundane and it shouldn’t be that way. As you said, let the Holy Spirit guide the worship each week. I appreciate your words of wisdom!
First of all thank you God two years later after you made this video I'm still here.🙌🏾♥️ Second this was beyond on point. I have left church because of some of this. Church people are just as lost as worldly people. Thank you so much for your teachings. May it continue to reach the masses.
The second song you brought up about Him not wanting heaven without us, I always perceived as just an expression of His love for us. God wants all to come to the knowledge of the truth (1 Tim 2:3-4). I didn't necessarily perceive that specific lyric as a reference God's loneliness without us. I interpreted it as just singing about His love being so great for us that He would bring heaven down because He does want us to be with Him.
Either way, I 100% agree on the point of singing songs that are theologically accurate. If we're singing songs to God, who literally is truth, we should sing truth to Him.
Love you brother.
Exactly.
Thank you
New believers can/might interpret it wrong. That’s why Allan pointed out to choose worship songs that talks about Gods true character. New believers hear from songs
@@erickalvaradotorres4985 that's fair
Perceived ... the lyrics shouldn’t be open to interpretation , they should be clear and accurate. That’s often the issue. Using actual scripture in most parts is likely the best thing today cause it’s Gods word And he promised it will not return to him void and will accomplish his will. So the more scripture the less issues are likely to come up. I’m not suggestion only scripture but some songs have none and are vague
I believe this applies to all musicians... Sometimes we play "decoratively" to draw attention or to impress someone we like. Flesh at work!
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Truth
I try to impress God
Yes, I'm guilty but I have to close my eyes and take the microphone away sometimes. Very easy to like the stage rather than the responsibility.
Yes this is quite true...
Amazing tips! I would love to sing for God and sing in church one day. I will remember all this. Thank you! ❤❤❤
totally agree with all said ... It's always a treat to go to church late to miss the worship "show"
I really desire true worship and most churches just lack that, I pray that the worship leaders understand this and start leading us to God through worship. Worshipping God is so powerful
Find a church that strictly holds to the regulative principle of worship.
Come to the Ransomed of The Lord Ministries Kasarani
I always thought “you didn’t want heaven without us so you brought heaven down” to mean Jesus wanted us in heaven cuz he loves us so he came to earth to be our sacrifice so we could reconcile with God
Me too
Me too!
I think Allen just misinterpreted the meaning of that song.
@@Madmonkeman yeah
Justin Durham lol what?
This was awesome!!! I’m glad you mentioned that you do not need to be a talented singer to be a worship leader. Your job is to encourage God”s presence through praise and worship service. Great job!
But if they can't carry a tune or play with any talent and even worse with no anointing or calling it's just noise, we are to offer our best to the Master.
But again We have to know how to sing...be skilled..be compitent ..our lord also needs excellence
Amen, amen, amen brother. You nailed it. Every single point I have felt just as a member in my church. Sometimes the worship leaders seem like they're the star and I'm just at their concert watching them perform. And I thought the exact same thing about that line in the song that mentions evolution, but I thought maybe I was just being hyper critical. Glad to know someone else had the same thought. Great video.
Wow thank you for this video. So often I’ve gone to worship services that seemed way more focused on the performance and multimedia presentation than worshiping GOD
I thoroughly enjoyed your insight of what worship is all about and to whom.may we take this advice and use it to bring glory and honour to God and for the benefit of those of us who are lead into worshipping God by doing so from our hearts with an understanding. God bless you for your message of encouragement.
"Evolving in pursuit of what you said" to me means that creation bends to the will of God. As in evolving not from dinosaur to chicken, but simply "changing". Like as with us changing (Rebirth, renewal of the mind, regeneration) because of the breathed Word of God. It is beautifully poetic and in my most humble opinion, biblically sound.
This is basically what I was thinking also. The word evolve does not just apply to evolution, although its what it is most notably linked to. Glad to see someone else with the same understanding. Bless you.
you even used the word again in the video with this meaning
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!
I totally agree with you. Most times we have our own interpretation of songs we did not write and interprete them wrongly.
Amen and amen....
If we don't cry out the rocks will cry out!! Though God's word had so much speed in the beginning as he created things the still Were formed and the poet who wrote the song... I imagine had a slow motion picture of what that looked like.... Which brought the world evolving!
That's right!
Don't beat the people up!
Worship is personal, just lead- and let people respond to the LORD as they will.
As a worshipper, and former worship leader, I am in complete agreement with your points. It's not about us, our voices, talent, etc., but about partnering with the Holy Spirit, and being His support team to see His will accomplished, so people have an experience with Him. It doesn't require deafening volume (one of my pet peeves), fancy lights or smoke machines... it does require humility, and a relationship with Jesus. I think too many are given the "worship leader" position based on musical talent rather than their testimony as a worshipper. I love the phrase you used, "7-11 songs"... God help us!
My brother in Christ, I would surely enjoy the privilege of singing next to you. Our LORD has given you a beautiful voice. All praise to Him for the gift that He has given to you for His Glory!
I love you already my friend, first time ever seeing your channel! I HEAR YOU! I'm the lead guitarist in our Praise and Worship band "Wing & A Prayer" and have been for 20-plus years. I was raised in the Lutheran church and my father is from generations of Lutheran pastors. I listen to him carefully as I did as a child, and I'm proud to be his son! He doesn't like the same things you're speaking of, nor do I. Dad has two Masters degrees, one he achieved during 8 years in Concordia Seminary St. Louis. His PhD he earned in subsequent years. (I need to shorten this up . . ) All I'm saying is he KNOWS what he's preaching about, and he won't condone what you also say shouldn't be done in God's House! He's a kind, loving 93 yr. old Pastor who gets invited to preach all the time! I hope I don't sound like I'm bragging, not my intent. I agree totally with all 7 "don'ts" Very glad I found you, and God Bless you!
Thank you for posting this. You’re being the voice for probably millions
Oh my goodness Denzel's Washington younger brother.
Let's stop worshipping worship. Let's worship Jesus.
veronica cuello I love that statement: “Let’s stop worshipping worship!” So true!
Hahahahaha... R u kidding me?
Indeed
We aren't supposed to worship Jesus. We are to worship God. Not the same being
Lol, I was wondering why he looked familiar.
Without watching a second of this video yet, I'm PRAYING one of the 7 is: stop repeating the bridge for 47 minutes straight!!!
That depends though. Sometimes the anointing leads us to that
That is so me🤦♀️😂😂😂😂
@@ooneybird27 you ever read the psalms lol
YEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 so true...
Soon after I became a Christian and started attending church, the whole worship thing was very new to me. The church I attended liked to wave their arms in the air and also dance which in itself doesn’t sound too bad - but after a while I started to be quieter and not wave my arms about or dance the ‘Alleluia Hop so much any more. I was approached and asked why I wasn’t participating. What actually happened was that one Sunday I just sat down whilst everyone was getting carried away. I sat down because I distinctly felt prompted by the Holy Spirit to do so and I obeyed. As I sat there I felt the Lord telling me to only pray UNTIL you pray, praise UNTIL you praise and worship UNTIL you worship. It made me think that doing things automatically as an end in itself is of the flesh, not the spirit. Also, when speaking in tongues, keep speaking UNTIL the Holy Spirit takes over and prays through you.
Love this..when I sang in the choir our director said most of this. Thank you for this
100% truth! I'm 60 yrs. Old, I've worn nearly every hat there is in church. Especially with music and singing. What you've said here is so important! My particular fav. Is #6. Don't quench the spirit. Sometimes waiting on the moving of the spirit means staying in that presence. And if you do, the rewards are beyond measure. Thank you! For injecting true wisdom of God into this very important subject.
I'm 61, I remember a time when the church I went to had all kinds of people doing all kinds of jobs. I especially remember having a Sunday School Director, he made sure that Sunday School would go smoothly, would ring the bell for start and end of Sunday School, and assisted the teachers and sometimes when needed would fill in for a teach when the need arose. Attendance was higher back then and more workers were to be had back then. The Worship Leader was on top of the song service. My how things have changed.
Wow!! This is good words of wisdom and instruction. " God is a spirit and they that worship Him, must worship Him in spirit and in truth." 🔥(John 4:24)
Amen Hallelujah Praise the Lord
Even though our spirits are incased in flesh and bone.
Jesus said the number one law is to love God above everything else. Glad to see your #1 and #2 put the focus where it belongs.
As a former worship team member for years (guitarist) I agree so much with these. The scripting of service hurries us through worship so often. My brother and I led a Bible study together and did the worship for it and some of our best times of worship were in his living room with a small group. Even more so just him and I rehearsing together were amazing worship experiences. We used to joke, as a reminder to our main team, by singing “It’s all about me” whenever the team would get too worried about performance stuff. Great video
In my 18 years of Age where I am starting As the Worship Leader on our Church I am very amazed watching this cause I've learned a lot 🥰
Please don’t take like at least 75% of his advice. It’s not solid.
I agree with your list. 👍 I’d like to add that the music shouldn’t be so loud.
@Diane TMMC - 😂 I know what you mean. I say the same thing every week.
Oh yes, I agree! In search for a church, we attended 2 that literally had our clothes shaking.
I'm old; I love it loud!!
I am the sound man in my church. If I can't hear the people around me singing, the music is too loud.
Amen, the People should be louder He’s worthy to be publicly praised, Hallelujah.
#4 is soooooooo needed. I wish every worship leader adopted this. It could also get really ableist if the worship leader is not mindful.
I was glad to hear this video.
I wish this could go out to all worship leaders because I i'd like those improvements in my church and may be many other churches.
I like what a pastor from Europe said about this topic: "Most services have 1-1 1/2 hours of praise and worship, 45 minutes of sermon, and 5 minutes of prayer. How different things would be if we spent time in prayer first, then went into the sermon, and saved praise and worship for last? The praise and worship experience would be richer and more meaningful, because God moved in hearts during prayer and that extended into the sermon time as well."
Worship ushers in the HolySpirit that’s my opinion
That is something to really think about! Every church should do this!
Jesus did say, My house shall be called a house of prayer. When churches meat together, if they spent as much time, or more, in corporate prayer as they do singing, maybe some things in this nation would change. Im saying this as someone whose always loved worship services. But at this moment in America, I think we desperately need much more prayer.
@@sexymom430 Incorrect. The Holy Spirit is already there. He dwells in all of Gods people. We dont usher him in. However as we worship, in can encourage the Holy Spirit to do a work in us and among us. It can bring the anointing upon are services. Perhaps this is what you meant?
Bible teacher, David Pawson