I address some of the questions and comments I have encountered regarding the 10mm for a concealed carry gun as well as some of the downfalls of the cartridge.
You should try the 10mm Liberty Civil Defense 60gr rounds. They boast 2400fps and 740fpe with massive fragmentation and 38% reduced felt recoil. Amazing carry rounds.
Second this! I got some of these rounds and the stats are certainly impressive not to mention they run great. I'd love to see a comparison with other really good carry rounds
Until you cross a bear, personal defense should be able to take down a wide range of things, including a large bear. And a 40 and a 45 isn’t enough for bear defense.
@@gregyoder6400 it's common practice to carry different rounds for woods vs in town carry. Most people don't want heavy penetration for personal protection.
Since retiring from Miami, FL to East Tennessee three years ago, I have upped my carry options from the 45ACP to the 10mm. That’s for two reasons. First, I travel the mountains regularly and we have had a considerable spike in negative human/black bear interactions over the last three years. Second, whereas Miami is the home of near perfect low fat bodies, East Tennessee is pretty much the exact opposite. I’m more likely to be accosted by an individual weighing in the 325 or much more pound range than the leaner body mass of the typical Miami bad guy. I know because I was once a State of Florida Parole Officer and I have 35 years experience as an NRA Instructor and competitive shooter. I carry either a Glock M29 or a full size Springfield Armory 1911 TRP with green CT Laser Grips.
Derek, Very sensible talk on a good subject! I carry a 10mm 70 percent of the time. I know what it can do in a fight and place the safety of myself and my owner on that cartridge with no qualms. It is a cartridge you have to practice with though. Can't imagine that your subs number isn't higher yet, c'mon people let's spread the word on this guy! Stay safe everyone.
OMG!!!! FINALLY A MAN WHO KNOWS WTF HE IS TALKING ABOUT!! THANK YOU!!! I instantly subscribed in the first minute when you were talking about the hype ammo vs good full power stuff for the 10mm. I too carry a 29 and have a 20 for hunting. Could not agree more on all points and thank you.
Really enjoyed your video. Glock 29 is one of my CCWs. The only thing is that you should not use an aftermarket barrel for 2 legged critters. For bear and other wildlife absolutely. But soon as a prosecutor sees that it's been switched, it opens a whole new can of worms. You shouldn't ever need an AMB for defense. Just wouldn't want you all to go through the trials and tribulations others have went through. It's exhausting, expensive and life altering. Stay safe and God bless you all.
Just got a G29, I 110% agree with your assumptions, ammo is key. After 400 rounds of 180 gr target I went with the Underwood 200 gr JHP for SD. Zero issues!!! For the woods I have the 200 and 220 HC from Underwood, again ZERO issues ! No ,neither of the HC tumbled!!! Like you I changed out the sites and I added a Pearce +2 extension which made a HUGE impact on getting a “full” grip!!!💯💯💯💯💯💯💯👊🏼👊🏼
Good video. I’ve upgraded from 9mm to 10mm knowing it will punch a car door or windshield if I need it to. Mine is a Glock 29 SF and with a spare mag in my pocket, I am definitely well armed.
I carry a s&w shield in 40 cal in the summer time when clothing is lighter. In the cooler months I carry a glock 29. Underwood 165,s in the glock and Winchester 180 rangers in the shield not much difference in the recoil. Either one takes some practice to tame for follow ups but it’s not that bad. I’m comfortable carrying either and both run 100 percent with the stated rounds. God forbid I should ever need to use one but if it came down to it I have faith in either gun and either round.
YES! Exactly! Run a 10mm as a 10mm. There's nothing wrong with the 10mm or the 40 S&W. Use them accordingly. People who say "well I shoot a 10mm" and then use 180 gr bullets at 1000 fps are shooting 40 S&W performance rounds. I have a few 40 S&W pistols and at some point I'll also have at least 1 10mm but the 10mm will never be loaded with ammo at a 40 S&W level. I've got a few 44 mags and when I want lower performance I use 44 specials, likewise I have several 357 mags and I shoot 38 specials through them when I want/need less performance. Because these are revolver cartridges I can shoot them in the same gun. 40 S&W used interchangeably in a 10mm chamber of the same auto pistol.....that is a controversial subject. I know people shoot 40 S&W ammo in 10mm Glocks with success but the 40 S&W has to then headspace on the extractor and not (as designed) on the case mouth.
@@thegundungeon That is not realistic for most people. In fact, there are very good reasons to run light 10mm in a Glock 20 (or any 10mm). A. Many people can't afford multiple guns. One is it, and the 10mm can go from light to heavy. The beauty of the Glock 20/29 is with a barrel change you can shoot 40 S&W. In my state California, you cannot buy ammo online. Totally illegal. I just checked prices and availability at local gun stores in my area. Only one has 9mm -- at 60 cents a round and its maybe available. No 45 ACP (running around 80/90 cents a round when available briefly), no .357 ($1 a round), 10mm watered down Fiocchi is about 80 cents a round, same as .38 special when available, .40 is around 70 cents a round. B. They may be running defensive ammo with bullets designed for .40 S&W velocities not true 10mm, and that's all they can get. C. They can't afford new guns and this one has to last, true .40 S&W guns get beat up save pricey H&K or the 10mm Glocks which can handle it. D. They will mostly trade off in carry velocity for accuracy, but want the option (flexibility) of running high velocity hardcast in bear country, around pigs, etc.
I got a g23 with a g19 upper and g19 ejector so I can shoot 9mm reliably also. I chose the g23 because 40sw is my do it all cartridge for home defense, edc and woods (no grizzlies in my area) because 40sw is very versatile with its grain sizes (even has subsonic for suppression), and capacity is very close to 9mm. I pack a 22 ground mag of 200 grain hardcast 40sw just in case I run into a black bear. It will do the job for black bears. I use 9mm for range and SHTF because 9mm is probably all you can find in a SHTF situation and it is the cheapest to shoot. I though about owning a 10 mm glock so I can have 10 mm and 40 sw in one gun, but I thought 9mm is more important, so g23 was my logical choice because I just wanted one gun. Even if I were in grizzly territory, I wouldn't feel safe with a 10 mm, a bare minimum for me would be a semi-auto shotgun, not even a pump, when a bear charges you cant get off enough shots with a pump especially for a griz.
I totally agree with your logic. I have a glock 23 with a 9mm conversion. I reload .40, and with a midrange load of longshot powder, I get 1250 fps with 155 gtain xtp bullets. It ain't 10mm, but plenty power. I shot a hog in the hip about a week ago, and the bullet lodged in the opposite side shoulder, expanded nicely. He didn't take another step. Anyway, I think the glock 23 with a 9mm conversion is about the most practical, versatile set up you can get.
Good video. Huge 10mm fan here. G29 is my edc and G40 is my nightstand/woods gun. I live in Griz country. I never leave home without my BB 220 HC rounds! New sub.
Versatility is why 10 mm is so popular. I've owned a lot of 10 mm, I believe it is the best pistol round. But it is not the most concealable pistol round. But the Glock 29 is a great balance. Especially with the grip extension that slides over the 15 round Glock 20 mag. Gives you the full grip.
I CCW with the Sig V-crown Elite JHP in All my carry guns 10mm , 9mm .38+p & my .357Mag , I like the quality and the availability of this specific ammo . It has great power and excellent expansion and penetration in all the ballistic test I’ve seen . My CCW guns Glock 26,29,34 also sp101 .357Mag 642 air weight.38+p 😁🇺🇸✌️
I actually tested this ammo in 9mm in ballistics gel and didn’t get great results. Check it out if you get time. I was hopeful for it since I can get the projectiles to load in 9mm.
The Glock 19 and the Glock 29 are basically the same size, and I totally agree, carrying a 10mm is a lot like carrying a .357. I carry a 9mm because I know under stress my groups with a 9mm will be much better than my .357, I love my 3" 686+ but more rounds are more better in today’s mob mentality environment. First I try to avoid going anywhere the crowds might turn violent, but I watched Reginald Denny get the shit beat out of them at an intersection and there was only four people there attacking him. That was 30 years ago, but I remember it like it was yesterday. So 15 rounds in the gun is my minimum. I’d rather have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them.
In the wintertime up here in the Northeast, I carry either a Glock 20, or one of my favorite guns, my Rock Island Ultra FS HC that stacks 16+1 of 10mm. I could probably take a buck, or something bigger with my winter carrry ammo, Underwood 140gr Xtreme Penetrator (1500 ft/sec). Funny enough that Sig ammo is pretty stout coming out of a 5” 1911 barrel. Great video brother!
I’ve had my G29 for 5 years now and recoil has never been an issue for me, in fact first range time I was blown away with its manageability to stay on target. I shoot 180 grain RNFP between 1,100 - 1,250 fps and sub 1” MOA. I’d say it has even less recoil than my .50 Desert Eagle.
An average bolt action rifle barely shoots sub moa. I highly doubt yours or any handgun for that matter can shoot sub moa. You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about here. I love the Glock 29 too but don’t over sell it 😂
@@paulcurtis5496 SuB Moa would be under 1” at 100 yards. At 20 yards with a .40 caliber bullet there would be 1 continuous hole with no deviation whatsoever. That’s virtually impossible. 🤣 It’s clear you lack fundamental understanding of what Sub MOA means. No human nor pistol on earth has ever shot a pistol with a group less than an inch at 100 yards. You’re a clown go do some research on what SUB MOA means.
@@mikerobinson8734 my bad, I’m inferring what I’ve read about accuracy from forums and didn’t know there was a distance limit or just for rifles. I’m a competitive archer and we score any break on the “bull” line counts as a bull. On my targets I hit all rounds in the 1 inch circle including the ring. What ever that is called, that’s what I regularly shoot. That would be a maximum of 2” radius.
@@paulcurtis5496 Hey no worries my man I just thought it was funny you said it. Sub MOA and pistol shouldn’t be In the same sentence haha. MOA minute of angle has to do with degrees in a full 360 degrees. “MOA stands for the Minute of Angle, which correlates to the minute hand of a 360-degree clock face. Each minute refers to 1/60th of a degree” I know very little about archery so you would school me on that subject.
Good video. Good advice at the end. I love my Glock 20, but don't carry it every day. It's a woods gun for me. Actually finished off a deer with it recently. Too expensive for me to train and shoot proficiently. Never shot a 29. I carry a 43x.
My Glock 29/20/40 all have Alpha Wolf barrels and McNally triggers in them. My 29 is specifically for EDC loaded with Sig V-Crown 180 and my Glock 20/40 I woods carry in a chest pack with Underwood 200 XTP or HC. The Sig V-Crown 180 is a very reliable round.
Absolutely. I started concealing a Glock 29 with the clip, appendix inside the waist band. No round in chamber. I originally carried Federal HST 200g until I shot it into my clear ballistics gel block. Federal HST 200g 19” Underwood 165g Gold Dot 11” Underwood 200g Nosler hollow point 15” I now carry the 165 in the magazine and 200g Nosler as a backup mag. The Federal HST is a great round just didn’t have full power velocity in to expand fully
I still have SGM tactical 30 round magazines, filled up to 25, of Federal HST in the truck and backpack just in case. If the HST were loaded to full power they would be perfect
I hope you are carrying with a round in the chamber now. God forbid if you ever have to use your EDC for protection the bad guy doesn't wait for you to chamber a round. Food for thought from someone who has been there. Stay safe.
@@brutalbob3982 It depends. For a lot of people like Larry Magill of the Glock store it makes far more sense to carry Condition Three, the way the gun was designed to be carried (as a sidearm for the Austrian Military). A Glock is a poor choice for rapid deployment. It has a five pound trigger. YOU might be comfortable carrying that pointed straight at your femoral artery relying solely on the holster to keep the trigger from being pulled, I am not given how and where I carry. I would suggest that situational awareness is more important than a fast draw. But if you think that is important those who relied upon it most figured a double action revolver was the best tool or the Browning Hi Power: Jim Cirillo, Frank Serpico, Sykes and Fairbarn. FWIW a lot of undercover narcs like the 1911 pattern and are lightning fast -- it combines a light easy trigger with two safeties.
@@alecswann7234 I was offering the man advice rather than quoting names. I was speaking from experience, not from some book or class. The man was carrying w/o a round in the chamber, that will certainly get you dead fast. I can also state from experience that it didn't matter if my firearm had a three pound trigger like my Delta Elite, a five lb. like my Glock, a six lb. like my Python or an eleven lb. like my Mod. 38. in the heat of a gunfight everything moves at light speed, though it seems slow. Anyone shooting themselves in the femoral artery either doesn't have the right equipment or handling skills. Are you speaking from experience?
Own 29 for 1 month now and I couldn't feel or tell the difference from my 19 in recoil... But far as power yeeaahh sirrr big difference... boom boom with a 29 and pew pew with 19
Good thoughts. Appreciate you taking time, energy, effort & resources to put this out their. Good perspective and encouragement. I carried the G29 for a good bit but various factors caused me to sell and stay with 40 & 45 for my edc. Some reasons you mentioned. Stay safe.
The Sig Elite ammo is 1250fps from a 5” barrel. There’s no .40SW that even comes close to that. The Sig ammo is a mid power ammo. Underwood exceeds the original Norma loadings from a Glock 20 but you lose allot of velocity from the short G29 barrel.
I was gonna say... Yeah sig ammo is the wrong comparison. I actually would carry the sig fmj 180g for all around duty. And it's a full power load. Underwood is actually a plus p load.
@@johnklatt3522 I sere. However you don't need more than 155 grain going 1500 fps. Id go lighter, always. and I would never use hollow points or any sort of expanding design bullets. They have always been controversial and have had years of intermittent issues. I don't use heavy round. The technique is now understood much better. The ideas of bullets needed to be heavy is not only wrong, it's archaic and foolish. Speed is what makes bullets work in the first place, so increased speed makes them work better. I use 111 (1700 fps) grain Hunter 45acp. it makes 700 pounds of energy which is more than some warm 10mm rounds. If I was to use 10mm, I'd stay with the 100 grain defender. There are many advantages to using lighter rounds. and the reason you don't want to be making any more power is because the operation of the pistol will be compromised. The weapon is designed with in a realm pressures and power guidelines. increased ability to stay on target and complete follow-up shots is also important. More power isn't always better. My lighter rounds allow me to operate my system much more efficiently. I can travel and move faster, & my load is much lighter. I can also keep my weapon on target longer and draw my quicker. Every single thing as an advantage when you go to the lighter rounds.
@@johnklatt3522 yeah I mean if they work reliably than you're good to go. But all the times I've seen failures it's always with some hollow point. Also. if I were to get a 10mm carbine, I'd be up to 44 Magnum power with the lighter rounds...
I think you nailed the versatility of the cartridge and platform. People love .357 magnum revolvers as they can do bear defense (black ones anyway, not sure about browns) or hunt pigs and definitely deer, or can be loaded lighter with .38 special and still perform well. The Glock 29 with a .40 barrel and one aftermarket 10 lets you shoot heavy cast lead Buffalo Bore monsters, soft 40 S&W, and anything in between. I think however the light 9mm are an experts gun like the airweight J frames. They are hard to shoot, jam a LOT, and have very marginal ballistic performance at those barrel lengths. Just like .38 special is just fine out of a 6 inch barrel for many purposes and "ok" in a 4 inch barrel, miserable often in a 1.78 inch barrel, so too is the 9mm great in a 5 inch barrel from say a M&P full size and not very great in a mini 9. JMHO.
First gun I bought was 686-357 house got broken into stole it but I own 2 pythons 3 king cobra and z 2 smith in 357 but my actual carry gun is the Glock 29sf that’s a bad boy
You really put up some good points. I’m curious is the follow up speed on a 9mm better than a 10mm with a slower follow up but more power? I’m curious about that. Thanks for all you do. I enjoy every video I watch by you.
Good insightful video! If I could have only one Glock 10mm it would be the Glock 29SF. This is by far the most versatile multi purpose, universal Personal Safety Defensive Device available to date.
Very true. These handloads do get above 1300 in a 4.5. But yes you are correct. I have some 200g xtp handloads that get 1200+ from the same 4.5” barrel
My current edc is the sig 365 (standard size) but living in New England im looking at a cold season (more clothing) carry option. Spend alot of time on snowmobiles in moose country so i think the 29 is on the short list. Love my glock 20 so why not right?
@@thegundungeon the lights would help I have seen other youtubers use sharpie on bullets though to help the chrono distinguish the bullet from bright sunlight "I guess"
I’ve tested some. It does really good, the underwood seems to do better with semi auto cartridges though. Buffalo bore walks the dog on anyone with revolver rounds.
How were you able to shoot the .40 casing in the 10mm? The 10mm is a long .40 casing? The .40 casing is shorter so I’m confused how you shot .40 out of it I know it’s the same diameter but I was told you can’t shoot .40 out of a 10mm vice versa… unless that wolf barrel is the way you can? Is it like the 223 Wyled but for .40 and 10mm?
Technically you can shoot .40 from a 10mm chamber, but I suggest not doing it. Only bad shit can happen. The bullet is the same, but the head spacing is not. It’s not the same as a Wylde chamber that can shoot both 5.56/.223. It’s a hybrid and was built specifically for that. Don’t let people tell you it’s ok, just don’t do it. If you want to practice a bit cheaper, simply buy a conversion kit or a .40 cal.
I didn't see your other video regarding the Line Wolf barrel. Are you using it for ammo purposes? I'm asking because I am considering a G29, but prefer factory barrels due to the idea of reliability. I hope you're note using the LW barrel because it was giving feeding issues.
You also shoot 180gr bullets apparently. It seems to me that the lighter 10mm loads would recoil less, even if they have the same energy. I know they make 130gr loads that are relatively normal designs, along with some really light loads that I'm less sure about ballistically. I'm personally looking for something more powerful than 9mm for carry and I'm considering my options. I wish they made the G29 MOS, I worry that if i buy one now they might come out with an mOS version. Honestly though, it seems like they aren't going to bother.
@@justinkase1360 Your talking about the bill from 2017? Think that was more of the people higher up at springfield and rock river not knowing what the bill contained but idk either way they're both against it now.
@@joshp7819 I've actually looked into it a bit when it happened and that's just the BS line they threw out there. They employ a guy to lobby for them, he does what they want. THey knew what was in the bill and had been opposing it. If they didn't know what was in it, they would not have changed their position. After they were given special treatment, told that the bill would not be applied to them, they publically dropped their opposition to the bill and it then passed. Luckily it was vetoed. I have zero tolerance for such things and I put my money where my mouth is when it comes to the 2A. When the NRA took the wrong position on bumpstocks, I knew I would never donate to them and I went and donated almost $2k to other 2A organizations. All that said, I'm not going to say it's wrong for others to but SA products, that's a personally decisions, even if I would prefer they didn't do so. The main thing that pisses me off is that they refuse to admit that they knew what they were doing, still to this day. THAT is not a mistake.
Try some 220 hardcast 😂 That's fullhouse 10mm. The massive energy dump doesnt require hp's. One aimed shot would drop anyone. Follow up wouldn't be required.
You’re not wrong, but HC is for game, whether it be hunting or more likely bear protection. HC is meant to smash bone, tendons, ligaments, etc. without deforming, all while keeping its weight retention. HC would go through a human like butter, you’d better be dam sure about your backdrop. It’ll smash through walls with ease.
Great video. LWROAD did Great video on that gun . #alaskanBallistics went in deep into the 10mm also on his channel. My self in pa I carry a 40s&w must time with 175gr critical duty or 180gr xtps. It's a all steel ruger sr40c. Have carry it few time in spring time little hard bc I pocket carry must time my in waist band holster sucks for must part I like but I hit my mag relase to munch bc I bigger in stomach. So carry the little 380acp keltec with one not in chamber in pocket that got my wife when first got together for around home its pink in black but make great pocket gun and she like it bc how small it is.
@@thegundungeon 6.85 inches overall with a barrel length of 3.5 in 40s&w sr40c from ruger. Ok with right pants pocket or coat inner poket. Hard with shorts. I need find a good in the waistband I like. Keltec is hand ✋ size .
It’s honestly a subjective statement but I can tell you I can tell a difference between the xdm 4.5 10 full size and the g29. Everyone is gonna be different though, it may be a lot to you or a little, I can’t say realistically. What I can say is I personally compare it to a 6” n frame 357 shooting full house vs a 4” k frame with full house 357. Best description I can give.
You a very key point that I very seriously doubt people take seriously and lie about there skill.you need to train a lot if you plan to carry a 10mm and use full house loads. I know for a fact that people always think they are better than they really are. I see it every week at a steel plate match. People will talk up their skill level then go shoot at a 8 inch plate at 13yds and maybe hit 2 out of 6. Just the tiny amount of pressure that a clock adds will make a average shooter and make him look like a beginner. So the key is train and train a lot. My personal opinion on all these super tiny 9mm and guns like the glock 40 cal 27 are a joke. I have carried a full size all steel 1911 in 45 for the last 22 years. It's what I shoot best and what I have the most muscle memory with. Clint Smith the owner of thunder ranch put it best. Your carry gun should be comforting not comfortable. That's coming from a man that has been there done that more than once and has the scars to prove it. Carry what you want but train till your up to your ass in brass.
I'd rather just need one round to stop a 350lbs bad guy wearing heavy cloths than have to rely on multiple shots when my stress level is at its highest.
The G29 is my edc, I also often carry the G20. I'll shoot 40 at the range when 10 range is hard to find or 40 bucks a box but the accuracy is all over the place. My carry load is 180 underwoods which is pretty potent even out of the shorter barrel.
So....why doesn't he evertelm us what he considers as a full power load? Is that 200 grain? I believe he said its still 180gr. He was very unclear. I don't know what the hell he considered as a full power loa🤷🏾♂️d🤷🏾♂️ 11:10
I do with no problems. I wouldn’t recommend carrying 40 in a 10 for any defensive purposes but it shoots 40 just fine. Expect extractor wear though, as that’s what’s holding the case to the breach face for striker impact.
A-Plus you are one of the few that is actually saying about self-defense with a 10 mL most TH-camrs are all talking about bear defense Woods defense this is the best bear caliber has nothing to do with the gun and has everything to do with the bullet great job separate the wussies from the men
@thegundungeon 😂 one more question brother since you have both. I know the shield conceals pretty easy since its so thin. How does the g29 conceal? Bieng a bit chunkier. Weight is not an issue for me but i dont wana be printing a whole lot 😅
@@sparky_-mf2cs it’s actually not bad, if you go to gun hero and compare them, the height is actually the same. It has a short little grip even if it’s a chonky boy
You should try the 10mm Liberty Civil Defense 60gr rounds. They boast 2400fps and 740fpe with massive fragmentation and 38% reduced felt recoil. Amazing carry rounds.
Second this! I got some of these rounds and the stats are certainly impressive not to mention they run great. I'd love to see a comparison with other really good carry rounds
Until you cross a bear, personal defense should be able to take down a wide range of things, including a large bear. And a 40 and a 45 isn’t enough for bear defense.
@@gregyoder6400 it's common practice to carry different rounds for woods vs in town carry. Most people don't want heavy penetration for personal protection.
I agree I have civil and overwatch
Civil defense is great for the hoods, underwood is great for the woods
Since retiring from Miami, FL to East Tennessee three years ago, I have upped my carry options from the 45ACP to the 10mm. That’s for two reasons. First, I travel the mountains regularly and we have had a considerable spike in negative human/black bear interactions over the last three years. Second, whereas Miami is the home of near perfect low fat bodies, East Tennessee is pretty much the exact opposite. I’m more likely to be accosted by an individual weighing in the 325 or much more pound range than the leaner body mass of the typical Miami bad guy. I know because I was once a State of Florida Parole Officer and I have 35 years experience as an NRA Instructor and competitive shooter. I carry either a Glock M29 or a full size Springfield Armory 1911 TRP with green CT Laser Grips.
I commend your upgrade Sir.
Human whales 😅
That’s some funny shit
Derek, Very sensible talk on a good subject! I carry a 10mm 70 percent of the time. I know what it can do in a fight and place the safety of myself and my owner on that cartridge with no qualms. It is a cartridge you have to practice with though. Can't imagine that your subs number isn't higher yet, c'mon people let's spread the word on this guy! Stay safe everyone.
Thank you for the kind words Bob! Hope you have a great weekend
Got 1000rd cases of 10mm if you interested
I was carrying it, carry the Glock 20 now, feels same and longer barrel. Like your Chanel, glad I found it. I have about. Six 10mms 1911s and Glocks.
Thank you sir, hope to have ya around in the future. I’m about as big of a 10mm nut as anyone but I try to hide my bias lol 😂
OMG!!!! FINALLY A MAN WHO KNOWS WTF HE IS TALKING ABOUT!! THANK YOU!!! I instantly subscribed in the first minute when you were talking about the hype ammo vs good full power stuff for the 10mm. I too carry a 29 and have a 20 for hunting. Could not agree more on all points and thank you.
Thank you sir. And thanks for watching
I'd love him to review and react to Liberty Ammuniton in 10mm auto. 60gr@2400fps
I own both G20 & G29. Both feel the same as far as recoil. The G29 is quite manageable and that is without Pearce Magazine extender. New sub…!
Really enjoyed your video. Glock 29 is one of my CCWs. The only thing is that you should not use an aftermarket barrel for 2 legged critters. For bear and other wildlife absolutely. But soon as a prosecutor sees that it's been switched, it opens a whole new can of worms. You shouldn't ever need an AMB for defense. Just wouldn't want you all to go through the trials and tribulations others have went through. It's exhausting, expensive and life altering. Stay safe and God bless you all.
Very, very well done. Real world points made. I love my 29SF! It is a sweet shooter and reliable as an anvil.
Just got a G29, I 110% agree with your assumptions, ammo is key. After 400 rounds of 180 gr target I went with the Underwood 200 gr JHP for SD. Zero issues!!! For the woods I have the 200 and 220 HC from Underwood, again ZERO issues ! No ,neither of the HC tumbled!!! Like you I changed out the sites and I added a Pearce +2 extension which made a HUGE impact on getting a “full” grip!!!💯💯💯💯💯💯💯👊🏼👊🏼
Good video. I’ve upgraded from 9mm to 10mm knowing it will punch a car door or windshield if I need it to. Mine is a Glock 29 SF and with a spare mag in my pocket, I am definitely well armed.
Same 20 rounder nice too, havnt tried the 30s yet.
I carry a G29, I also carry a G40 in an armored backpack. Its got a red dot, light & KKM barrel + comp (on order). LOVE 10MM.
Got 1000rd cases of 10mm if you interested
Carry a Glock 42 with 2 8rd mags and 2 12 rd mags and my Glock 29 with 4 15rd Glock 20 mags
@@wildmanmaxsda8311 I'm interested
can you get a red dot for a G29 ? if so what red dot do you recommend?
@@Teggy123 youd have to have your slide milled. RMR or Holosun 508T are my personal favorite pistol dots.
Wow somebody with brains on TH-cam I can't believe it
Thank you. I appreciate that
I carry a s&w shield in 40 cal in the summer time when clothing is lighter. In the cooler months I carry a glock 29. Underwood 165,s in the glock and Winchester 180 rangers in the shield not much difference in the recoil. Either one takes some practice to tame for follow ups but it’s not that bad. I’m comfortable carrying either and both run 100 percent with the stated rounds. God forbid I should ever need to use one but if it came down to it I have faith in either gun and either round.
Two excellent choices! Thanks for watching!
Why the seasonal weapon choice
YES! Exactly! Run a 10mm as a 10mm. There's nothing wrong with the 10mm or the 40 S&W. Use them accordingly. People who say "well I shoot a 10mm" and then use 180 gr bullets at 1000 fps are shooting 40 S&W performance rounds. I have a few 40 S&W pistols and at some point I'll also have at least 1 10mm but the 10mm will never be loaded with ammo at a 40 S&W level. I've got a few 44 mags and when I want lower performance I use 44 specials, likewise I have several 357 mags and I shoot 38 specials through them when I want/need less performance. Because these are revolver cartridges I can shoot them in the same gun. 40 S&W used interchangeably in a 10mm chamber of the same auto pistol.....that is a controversial subject. I know people shoot 40 S&W ammo in 10mm Glocks with success but the 40 S&W has to then headspace on the extractor and not (as designed) on the case mouth.
Yes when running 10, use real 10 or just go 40 and have more options in firearms lol
@@thegundungeon That is not realistic for most people. In fact, there are very good reasons to run light 10mm in a Glock 20 (or any 10mm). A. Many people can't afford multiple guns. One is it, and the 10mm can go from light to heavy. The beauty of the Glock 20/29 is with a barrel change you can shoot 40 S&W. In my state California, you cannot buy ammo online. Totally illegal. I just checked prices and availability at local gun stores in my area. Only one has 9mm -- at 60 cents a round and its maybe available. No 45 ACP (running around 80/90 cents a round when available briefly), no .357 ($1 a round), 10mm watered down Fiocchi is about 80 cents a round, same as .38 special when available, .40 is around 70 cents a round. B. They may be running defensive ammo with bullets designed for .40 S&W velocities not true 10mm, and that's all they can get. C. They can't afford new guns and this one has to last, true .40 S&W guns get beat up save pricey H&K or the 10mm Glocks which can handle it. D. They will mostly trade off in carry velocity for accuracy, but want the option (flexibility) of running high velocity hardcast in bear country, around pigs, etc.
Correct, good post!!
I got a g23 with a g19 upper and g19 ejector so I can shoot 9mm reliably also. I chose the g23 because 40sw is my do it all cartridge for home defense, edc and woods (no grizzlies in my area) because 40sw is very versatile with its grain sizes (even has subsonic for suppression), and capacity is very close to 9mm. I pack a 22 ground mag of 200 grain hardcast 40sw just in case I run into a black bear. It will do the job for black bears. I use 9mm for range and SHTF because 9mm is probably all you can find in a SHTF situation and it is the cheapest to shoot.
I though about owning a 10 mm glock so I can have 10 mm and 40 sw in one gun, but I thought 9mm is more important, so g23 was my logical choice because I just wanted one gun. Even if I were in grizzly territory, I wouldn't feel safe with a 10 mm, a bare minimum for me would be a semi-auto shotgun, not even a pump, when a bear charges you cant get off enough shots with a pump especially for a griz.
I totally agree with your logic. I have a glock 23 with a 9mm conversion. I reload .40, and with a midrange load of longshot powder, I get 1250 fps with 155 gtain xtp bullets. It ain't 10mm, but plenty power. I shot a hog in the hip about a week ago, and the bullet lodged in the opposite side shoulder, expanded nicely. He didn't take another step. Anyway, I think the glock 23 with a 9mm conversion is about the most practical, versatile set up you can get.
Good video. Huge 10mm fan here. G29 is my edc and G40 is my nightstand/woods gun. I live in Griz country. I never leave home without my BB 220 HC rounds!
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Agreed. If you’re not prepared to carry full house 10mm then don’t bother with it. Rather carry a .40 S&W or a 9mm.
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Versatility is why 10 mm is so popular. I've owned a lot of 10 mm, I believe it is the best pistol round. But it is not the most concealable pistol round. But the Glock 29 is a great balance. Especially with the grip extension that slides over the 15 round Glock 20 mag. Gives you the full grip.
I CCW with the Sig V-crown Elite JHP in All my carry guns 10mm , 9mm .38+p & my .357Mag , I like the quality and the availability of this specific ammo . It has great power and excellent expansion and penetration in all the ballistic test I’ve seen .
My CCW guns Glock 26,29,34 also sp101 .357Mag 642 air weight.38+p 😁🇺🇸✌️
I actually tested this ammo in 9mm in ballistics gel and didn’t get great results. Check it out if you get time. I was hopeful for it since I can get the projectiles to load in 9mm.
The Glock 19 and the Glock 29 are basically the same size, and I totally agree, carrying a 10mm is a lot like carrying a .357. I carry a 9mm because I know under stress my groups with a 9mm will be much better than my .357, I love my 3" 686+ but more rounds are more better in today’s mob mentality environment. First I try to avoid going anywhere the crowds might turn violent, but I watched Reginald Denny get the shit beat out of them at an intersection and there was only four people there attacking him. That was 30 years ago, but I remember it like it was yesterday. So 15 rounds in the gun is my minimum. I’d rather have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them.
Excellent comment. I agree with everything said. Thanks for watching.
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I’m looking at this 10 mm looking at reviews for my next firearm, good video thank you.
Fantastic video and information. You answered my questions and gave me a lot to think about. Thank you!
In the wintertime up here in the Northeast, I carry either a Glock 20, or one of my favorite guns, my Rock Island Ultra FS HC that stacks 16+1 of 10mm. I could probably take a buck, or something bigger with my winter carrry ammo, Underwood 140gr Xtreme Penetrator (1500 ft/sec). Funny enough that Sig ammo is pretty stout coming out of a 5” 1911 barrel. Great video brother!
Got 1000rd cases of 10mm if you interested
Bought a conversion barrel from the G Store to turn my G30 into a G29 in a matter of minutes. The ONLY thing to change is the barrel and mags.
I’ve had my G29 for 5 years now and recoil has never been an issue for me, in fact first range time I was blown away with its manageability to stay on target. I shoot 180 grain RNFP between 1,100 - 1,250 fps and sub 1” MOA. I’d say it has even less recoil than my .50 Desert Eagle.
An average bolt action rifle barely shoots sub moa. I highly doubt yours or any handgun for that matter can shoot sub moa.
You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about here.
I love the Glock 29 too but don’t over sell it 😂
@@mikerobinson8734 I indeed have shot sub-MOA from 20 yards
@@paulcurtis5496 SuB Moa would be under 1” at 100 yards.
At 20 yards with a .40 caliber bullet there would be 1 continuous hole with no deviation whatsoever. That’s virtually impossible. 🤣 It’s clear you lack fundamental understanding of what Sub MOA means.
No human nor pistol on earth has ever shot a pistol with a group less than an inch at 100 yards.
You’re a clown go do some research on what SUB MOA means.
@@mikerobinson8734 my bad, I’m inferring what I’ve read about accuracy from forums and didn’t know there was a distance limit or just for rifles.
I’m a competitive archer and we score any break on the “bull” line counts as a bull. On my targets I hit all rounds in the 1 inch circle including the ring.
What ever that is called, that’s what I regularly shoot. That would be a maximum of 2” radius.
@@paulcurtis5496 Hey no worries my man I just thought it was funny you said it. Sub MOA and pistol shouldn’t be In the same sentence haha.
MOA minute of angle has to do with degrees in a full 360 degrees. “MOA stands for the Minute of Angle, which correlates to the minute hand of a 360-degree clock face. Each minute refers to 1/60th of a degree”
I know very little about archery so you would school me on that subject.
Good video. Good advice at the end. I love my Glock 20, but don't carry it every day. It's a woods gun for me. Actually finished off a deer with it recently. Too expensive for me to train and shoot proficiently. Never shot a 29. I carry a 43x.
My Glock 29/20/40 all have Alpha Wolf barrels and McNally triggers in them. My 29 is specifically for EDC loaded with Sig V-Crown 180 and my Glock 20/40 I woods carry in a chest pack with Underwood 200 XTP or HC. The Sig V-Crown 180 is a very reliable round.
Very true. But economics also play a role. 10 mm and 40 SW are considerably more expensive than 9mm.
I carry the springfield XDM elite 3.8 10mm love it.
Same. Got mine loaded up with Underwood 180gr XTPs.
Excellent control of the 29sf. Interesting video.
10mm will be my next purchase.Don’t like that the Glock doesn’t come optic ready and might pick the springfield 10mm for that reason.
I’ve been eyeballing the xdm compact 10 myself. Keep running across deals that drain the gun fund though lol
@@thegundungeon 😂😂😂
Absolutely. I started concealing a Glock 29 with the clip, appendix inside the waist band. No round in chamber.
I originally carried Federal HST 200g until I shot it into my clear ballistics gel block.
Federal HST 200g 19”
Underwood 165g Gold Dot 11”
Underwood 200g Nosler hollow point 15”
I now carry the 165 in the magazine and 200g Nosler as a backup mag. The Federal HST is a great round just didn’t have full power velocity in to expand fully
I still have SGM tactical 30 round magazines, filled up to 25, of Federal HST in the truck and backpack just in case. If the HST were loaded to full power they would be perfect
I hope you are carrying with a round in the chamber now. God forbid if you ever have to use your EDC for protection the bad guy doesn't wait for you to chamber a round. Food for thought from someone who has been there. Stay safe.
Yes the g29 can be a very effective concealed carry gun, I do believe it comes with extra requirements to practice more so than other platforms.
@@brutalbob3982 It depends. For a lot of people like Larry Magill of the Glock store it makes far more sense to carry Condition Three, the way the gun was designed to be carried (as a sidearm for the Austrian Military). A Glock is a poor choice for rapid deployment. It has a five pound trigger. YOU might be comfortable carrying that pointed straight at your femoral artery relying solely on the holster to keep the trigger from being pulled, I am not given how and where I carry. I would suggest that situational awareness is more important than a fast draw. But if you think that is important those who relied upon it most figured a double action revolver was the best tool or the Browning Hi Power: Jim Cirillo, Frank Serpico, Sykes and Fairbarn. FWIW a lot of undercover narcs like the 1911 pattern and are lightning fast -- it combines a light easy trigger with two safeties.
@@alecswann7234 I was offering the man advice rather than quoting names. I was speaking from experience, not from some book or class. The man was carrying w/o a round in the chamber, that will certainly get you dead fast. I can also state from experience that it didn't matter if my firearm had a three pound trigger like my Delta Elite, a five lb. like my Glock, a six lb. like my Python or an eleven lb. like my Mod. 38. in the heat of a gunfight everything moves at light speed, though it seems slow. Anyone shooting themselves in the femoral artery either doesn't have the right equipment or handling skills.
Are you speaking from experience?
You can get a 10mm Gun in the same size and round capacity qty as a 40cal, so go with the 10mm and play with the load for managed recoil.
Own 29 for 1 month now and I couldn't feel or tell the difference from my 19 in recoil... But far as power yeeaahh sirrr big difference... boom boom with a 29 and pew pew with 19
You go TGD!!! Nice informative vid. I went the other path with a G30 sf and a Glock Store conversion barrel.
The 30 feels like your shooting a 9mm, the Glock 30 has no recoil. It's a very soft shooting firearm.
@@armedrebellion47 When you use 220 grain JHP +p by the 10th round gets a little stingee.
G30 is an excellent firearm as well. Thanks for watching!
Good thoughts. Appreciate you taking time, energy, effort & resources to put this out their.
Good perspective and encouragement. I carried the G29 for a good bit but various factors caused me to sell and stay with 40 & 45 for my edc. Some reasons you mentioned. Stay safe.
Thank you for the kind words and thanks for watching!
If we’re gunna talk about 10mm we have to talk about the .90 per round for basically mild sauced .40 cal. Thanks for sharing!
Great video. Would love to see some .357 Sig tests.
This is why I only use underwood ammo
Well said. Thank you for this information. G29 is my next carry choice.
PHENOMINAL educational video! Well said!
In winter, I carry the G20SF. In shorts and t-shirt weather, I switch to the G29.
The Sig Elite ammo is 1250fps from a 5” barrel. There’s no .40SW that even comes close to that. The Sig ammo is a mid power ammo. Underwood exceeds the original Norma loadings from a Glock 20 but you lose allot of velocity from the short G29 barrel.
I was gonna say... Yeah sig ammo is the wrong comparison. I actually would carry the sig fmj 180g for all around duty. And it's a full power load. Underwood is actually a plus p load.
@@johnklatt3522 I sere. However you don't need more than 155 grain going 1500 fps. Id go lighter, always. and I would never use hollow points or any sort of expanding design bullets. They have always been controversial and have had years of intermittent issues.
I don't use heavy round. The technique is now understood much better. The ideas of bullets needed to be heavy is not only wrong, it's archaic and foolish.
Speed is what makes bullets work in the first place, so increased speed makes them work better.
I use 111 (1700 fps) grain Hunter 45acp. it makes 700 pounds of energy which is more than some warm 10mm rounds.
If I was to use 10mm, I'd stay with the 100 grain defender.
There are many advantages to using lighter rounds.
and the reason you don't want to be making any more power is because the operation of the pistol will be compromised. The weapon is designed with in a realm pressures and power guidelines. increased ability to stay on target and complete follow-up shots is also important. More power isn't always better.
My lighter rounds allow me to operate my system much more efficiently. I can travel and move faster, & my load is much lighter. I can also keep my weapon on target longer and draw my quicker. Every single thing as an advantage when you go to the lighter rounds.
@@johnklatt3522 yeah I mean if they work reliably than you're good to go. But all the times I've seen failures it's always with some hollow point.
Also. if I were to get a 10mm carbine, I'd be up to 44 Magnum power with the lighter rounds...
I think you nailed the versatility of the cartridge and platform. People love .357 magnum revolvers as they can do bear defense (black ones anyway, not sure about browns) or hunt pigs and definitely deer, or can be loaded lighter with .38 special and still perform well. The Glock 29 with a .40 barrel and one aftermarket 10 lets you shoot heavy cast lead Buffalo Bore monsters, soft 40 S&W, and anything in between.
I think however the light 9mm are an experts gun like the airweight J frames. They are hard to shoot, jam a LOT, and have very marginal ballistic performance at those barrel lengths. Just like .38 special is just fine out of a 6 inch barrel for many purposes and "ok" in a 4 inch barrel, miserable often in a 1.78 inch barrel, so too is the 9mm great in a 5 inch barrel from say a M&P full size and not very great in a mini 9. JMHO.
First gun I bought was 686-357 house got broken into stole it but I own 2 pythons 3 king cobra and z 2 smith in 357 but my actual carry gun is the Glock 29sf that’s a bad boy
My Glock 29 hugs the left real bad. Had to put a aftermarket striker in right out of the box to fix light primer strikes.
In my G29 when I had one I always carry Underwood 180 gr but I sold it so I have been looking at the XDM Eilte 3.8" 10MM.
How much better is it ? I heard it has more recoil than the 29
You really put up some good points. I’m curious is the follow up speed on a 9mm better than a 10mm with a slower follow up but more power? I’m curious about that. Thanks for all you do. I enjoy every video I watch by you.
Exactly, short barrel 👎
My 10mm is 6.02" G40.
Worthy for 10mm ammo
and optimum ballistics.
Nice test though 👍💥🎯⚖️☮️🗽🇺🇲
Thank you. Great video, very informative. Helped in my decision making.
Thanks again for the video. It helped me to go with G26 instead. Keep up great work!
My Glock 29 shoot perfect no miss best Glock I own
Good insightful video!
If I could have only one Glock 10mm it would be the Glock 29SF.
This is by far the most versatile multi purpose, universal Personal Safety Defensive Device available to date.
10 mm real loads out of 5 inch = 200 grain at 1250 fps/ 180 grain at 1350 fps/ 155 grain at 1500 fps.....
Very true. These handloads do get above 1300 in a 4.5. But yes you are correct. I have some 200g xtp handloads that get 1200+ from the same 4.5” barrel
Civil defense 10 mm is 2400 FPS 60 grain frangible
Really detailed thanks for the info man
this video is the truth. Subscribed.
I carry buffalo bore 180 grain hollow points.
My current edc is the sig 365 (standard size) but living in New England im looking at a cold season (more clothing) carry option. Spend alot of time on snowmobiles in moose country so i think the 29 is on the short list. Love my glock 20 so why not right?
Exactly… why not?
From literally thousands of rounds through my G29, I can say I shoot it better than my CZ P01.
Try marking the rounds with sharpie for the chrono
I need to invest in some of the chrono lights. I can just about tell when it’s gonna act up based on the sunlight outside lol.
@@thegundungeon the lights would help I have seen other youtubers use sharpie on bullets though to help the chrono distinguish the bullet from bright sunlight "I guess"
Define full power 10mm ammo? Norma spec was identical to 147gr. 357 magnum 536 ftps at 1300 fps. Underwood and double tap are above that.
Thanks, I will be looking for a glock 29.
what is he meaning full power loads if they are all 180 grain and what ammo were the full power loads????
Buffalo Bore 180 gr. would have given you an additional 100+ fps, as chronographed from my G29 with a KKM barrel.
I’ve tested some. It does really good, the underwood seems to do better with semi auto cartridges though. Buffalo bore walks the dog on anyone with revolver rounds.
How were you able to shoot the .40 casing in the 10mm? The 10mm is a long .40 casing? The .40 casing is shorter so I’m confused how you shot .40 out of it I know it’s the same diameter but I was told you can’t shoot .40 out of a 10mm vice versa… unless that wolf barrel is the way you can? Is it like the 223 Wyled but for .40 and 10mm?
Must 10mm will shoot 40s&w
Technically you can shoot .40 from a 10mm chamber, but I suggest not doing it. Only bad shit can happen. The bullet is the same, but the head spacing is not. It’s not the same as a Wylde chamber that can shoot both 5.56/.223. It’s a hybrid and was built specifically for that. Don’t let people tell you it’s ok, just don’t do it. If you want to practice a bit cheaper, simply buy a conversion kit or a .40 cal.
I didn't see your other video regarding the Line Wolf barrel. Are you using it for ammo purposes?
I'm asking because I am considering a G29, but prefer factory barrels due to the idea of reliability. I hope you're note using the LW barrel because it was giving feeding issues.
Factory barrel has been perfectly reliable. Lone wolf barrel is for plated and lead bullets.
Great video. Thank you
You want hot 10mm loads go to underwood or buffalo bore. that comes with any round.
Thanks for the video👍👍
Good information.
I saw some videos where a heavy
220 hard cast will tumble in the glock 29
Will the lone wolf barrel prevent this
From happening?
You also shoot 180gr bullets apparently. It seems to me that the lighter 10mm loads would recoil less, even if they have the same energy. I know they make 130gr loads that are relatively normal designs, along with some really light loads that I'm less sure about ballistically. I'm personally looking for something more powerful than 9mm for carry and I'm considering my options. I wish they made the G29 MOS, I worry that if i buy one now they might come out with an mOS version. Honestly though, it seems like they aren't going to bother.
The new xdm 3.8 10mm is optics ready traded in my g20 and g29 for the 3.8 and 4.5 osp xdm's, I like them a lot
@@joshp7819 Yeah, I actualy did find those guns in my search but I just can't support Springfield after what they pulled in Illinois.
@@justinkase1360 Your talking about the bill from 2017? Think that was more of the people higher up at springfield and rock river not knowing what the bill contained but idk either way they're both against it now.
@@joshp7819 I've actually looked into it a bit when it happened and that's just the BS line they threw out there. They employ a guy to lobby for them, he does what they want. THey knew what was in the bill and had been opposing it. If they didn't know what was in it, they would not have changed their position. After they were given special treatment, told that the bill would not be applied to them, they publically dropped their opposition to the bill and it then passed. Luckily it was vetoed. I have zero tolerance for such things and I put my money where my mouth is when it comes to the 2A. When the NRA took the wrong position on bumpstocks, I knew I would never donate to them and I went and donated almost $2k to other 2A organizations. All that said, I'm not going to say it's wrong for others to but SA products, that's a personally decisions, even if I would prefer they didn't do so. The main thing that pisses me off is that they refuse to admit that they knew what they were doing, still to this day. THAT is not a mistake.
I totally agree if your gonna do a Big Bore Caliber get a full size gun. No point in carrying a micro Compact 10MM OR 45 ACP 😂😂😂😂 #dressed2kill ❤
I'm not familiar with Glocks to much but I am thinking of getting a Mod 20 or 29. Did I get this right, you can shoot .40 cal out of the Glock 10mm?
Was wondering what you was getting at the sig practice ammo always gets about 1150 out of my 29 with factory barrel
Buffalo bore for carrying in the city chad round
Try some 220 hardcast 😂 That's fullhouse 10mm. The massive energy dump doesnt require hp's. One aimed shot would drop anyone. Follow up wouldn't be required.
You’re not wrong, but HC is for game, whether it be hunting or more likely bear protection. HC is meant to smash bone, tendons, ligaments, etc. without deforming, all while keeping its weight retention. HC would go through a human like butter, you’d better be dam sure about your backdrop. It’ll smash through walls with ease.
Great video. LWROAD did Great video on that gun . #alaskanBallistics went in deep into the 10mm also on his channel.
My self in pa I carry a 40s&w must time with 175gr critical duty or 180gr xtps.
It's a all steel ruger sr40c. Have carry it few time in spring time little hard bc I pocket carry must time my in waist band holster sucks for must part I like but I hit my mag relase to munch bc I bigger in stomach. So carry the little 380acp keltec with one not in chamber in pocket that got my wife when first got together for around home its pink in black but make great pocket gun and she like it bc how small it is.
Pocket carry really keeps ya limited but if it works it works. Thanks for watching James!
@@thegundungeon 6.85 inches overall with a barrel length of 3.5 in 40s&w sr40c from ruger. Ok with right pants pocket or coat inner poket. Hard with shorts. I need find a good in the waistband I like. Keltec is hand ✋ size .
I have the Springfield xdm elite compact osp in 10mm
I had trouble hearing what you were saying sometimes. How bad is the kick of the 29 relative to say a glock 40?
It’s honestly a subjective statement but I can tell you I can tell a difference between the xdm 4.5 10 full size and the g29. Everyone is gonna be different though, it may be a lot to you or a little, I can’t say realistically. What I can say is I personally compare it to a 6” n frame 357 shooting full house vs a 4” k frame with full house 357. Best description I can give.
10mm because I feel like shooting once
I don’t get the “recoil “ hype with 10mm. It’s negligible. If you’re an inexperienced shooter then maybe.
You a very key point that I very seriously doubt people take seriously and lie about there skill.you need to train a lot if you plan to carry a 10mm and use full house loads. I know for a fact that people always think they are better than they really are. I see it every week at a steel plate match. People will talk up their skill level then go shoot at a 8 inch plate at 13yds and maybe hit 2 out of 6. Just the tiny amount of pressure that a clock adds will make a average shooter and make him look like a beginner. So the key is train and train a lot.
My personal opinion on all these super tiny 9mm and guns like the glock 40 cal 27 are a joke. I have carried a full size all steel 1911 in 45 for the last 22 years. It's what I shoot best and what I have the most muscle memory with. Clint Smith the owner of thunder ranch put it best. Your carry gun should be comforting not comfortable. That's coming from a man that has been there done that more than once and has the scars to prove it.
Carry what you want but train till your up to your ass in brass.
Do a 10mm Glock 29 feels like a Glock 30 ? Because the Glock 30 feel less recoil then a 9mm to me
It is dimensionally identical to the g30, a real 10mm round will produce more recoil than 45acp though.
@@thegundungeon so underwood 10mm ammo will feel more recoil then a 45?
@@Lifewithwu yes
@@thegundungeon hmmm but do you think I can one hand a 10milly i one hand my 45acp Glock 30 easy
@@Lifewithwu most likely, the good thing about 10mm is it can be mild to wild, whatever you want.
For edc. Would the 10mm and 40 cause over penetration.
Depends on the bullet and load selected. I have a whole video showing 30+ inches of penetration and as little as 8” with 10mm.
I'd rather just need one round to stop a 350lbs bad guy wearing heavy cloths than have to rely on multiple shots when my stress level is at its highest.
The G29 is my edc, I also often carry the G20. I'll shoot 40 at the range when 10 range is hard to find or 40 bucks a box but the accuracy is all over the place. My carry load is 180 underwoods which is pretty potent even out of the shorter barrel.
Got 1000rd cases of 10mm if you interested
What holster do you have for it?
So....why doesn't he evertelm us what he considers as a full power load? Is that 200 grain? I believe he said its still 180gr. He was very unclear. I don't know what the hell he considered as a full power loa🤷🏾♂️d🤷🏾♂️ 11:10
Full power is a 200gr bullet around 1200fps or a 180 around 1250-1275 from duty size barrel.
Springfield armory xdm elite 3.8 osp 10mm!!! Lovely little gun, but damn that's a mouthful of words!!!
Keep one mag with P plus for giant land rodents and another mag with 1000 feet second for smaller wolfs 😂😅
Soo your telling me you can shoot 40 cal out of the 29
I do with no problems. I wouldn’t recommend carrying 40 in a 10 for any defensive purposes but it shoots 40 just fine. Expect extractor wear though, as that’s what’s holding the case to the breach face for striker impact.
I feel like if you defend yourself with 10mm the courts would use it against you
@John Klatt you mean shouldn't right?
A-Plus you are one of the few that is actually saying about self-defense with a 10 mL most TH-camrs are all talking about bear defense Woods defense this is the best bear caliber has nothing to do with the gun and has everything to do with the bullet great job separate the wussies from the men
Great gun
10mm is overkill for conceal carry unless there are bears around lol..
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Should i trade in my 40 shield for a 10mm glock ? I need help 😂
I’m not gonna say yes or no. I’m just gonna say this… if I could only have one handgun, I’d have my g29 lol
And I have a 40 shield currently lol
@thegundungeon 😂 one more question brother since you have both. I know the shield conceals pretty easy since its so thin. How does the g29 conceal? Bieng a bit chunkier. Weight is not an issue for me but i dont wana be printing a whole lot 😅
@@sparky_-mf2cs it’s actually not bad, if you go to gun hero and compare them, the height is actually the same. It has a short little grip even if it’s a chonky boy
@thegundungeon im sold.. lol
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90% of factory 10mm ammo is no better than .40. If you’re gonna carry and shoot a Glock 20 or 29, or any other 10mm, you really need to reload.
I will say if you’re a man, you carry the Glock 29. Just sayin 😁
yep! Glaser silver safety slug X20. bam